Age of Sigmar General /aosg/

Elffags are the worst

>>52354112
Wha--.... o.. kk.... .....

Second for elves are vermin and trees are gr8

>>52354121
WAKE UP TREEPLE

>>52354130
It's autumn we're allowed to fucking slow down, our fucking lungs are falling off.

OI! Fer once I wants ta see a thread run by da orruks! Enuff 'earin' about knife ears and chaos boyz!

Wots yer fav'rit part a bein' an orruk?

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>>52354143
>orruks

>>52354091
GOBLINS

FUCKING

WHEN

So I want to play AoS. The upcoming Kharadron Overlords look really cool, but damn do the Seraphon have great looking models and some nifty lore. My question: how do Seraphon do on the tabletop in matched play?

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>tfw Gotrek & Felix won't be continued

Square bases just feel right

>>52354173
Wrong!

Can i incorporate all members of a certain faction into an army now? I wanna add some Devoted of Sigmar to my high elves

When do we get the new pics?

>>52354310
You can, but you'll miss out on some unit synergy.

>>52354142
Hi australia. It's spring in the other parts of the world that matter

>>52354346
>GA
>synergy

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Who would win?

How do I mix Pussyslayers with Tophats

>>52354748
Right has bigger head

>>52354797
Bigger target

>>52354797
INT vs. STR

>>52354831
Nah man

STR vs. CON

>>52354748
remmammer has a pair of additional tomahawks but warhahraw has the high ground and a larger nose adapted to live at such high altitudes, so right

Hey wonderful dwellers of the internet. I've been searching for a bit now and can't seem to find a pdf of the grand alliance books. Anyone happen to have any? Specifically the chaos one if possible. Cheers

>>52354168
They're top tier.

Hey guys I have some old skaven stuff. I have a doom bell and a doom wheel and doom flamers and doom mortar teams and doom monks and doom clanrats....

Anyway I want to start playing age of sigmar but I don't understand how to calculate points. I downloaded the battle scroll but there are no point costs for any unites. How do you build an army?

>>52355924
Generals handbook has points for everything

>>52355924
There's also a website

>>52356003
It's in the OP

>>52355950
>>52356003
Okay I see the points, do I get to choose/change any weapons or are they always going to be stock?
since the unit sizes have a min and a max is there ever a reason to take the min?

GET THE FUCK OUT OF CHAOS!

>>52356123
why are they reddit rats? Are all age of sigmar players this autistic? should i stick with 40k?

>>52356147
We're just having fun

>>52356147
Do whatever the FUCK you want.

>>52356074
Points increase.

3 = 100 6 = 200 9 = 300

And you get a choice of equipment, and they don't cost points. I suggest you read the general's handbook first.

>>52356147
It's a meme. A shit one.

Why wont GW release the Alfs what are they hiding?

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>>52356391
The pogs.

>>52356420
Phat Ass White Girl?

>>52356444
>doesn't know Alf
>doesn't know pogs

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>>52356455

>>52356567
Your reaction gif is funnier than the joke.

>>52356593
It's one of my favorites.

>>52356147
Because we fucking hate Skaven since Fantasy.

>act retarded and still have good plot armor
>why do Orcs&Gobbos exist when Skaven steal every good shit from these guys
Fuck reddit rats.

Would it look weird if I painted the Firebelly up as an Orruk instead of an Ogor?

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>>52356794
Looks like someone's tried it. Whatdya boyz think, not orky enough?

>>52356808
Sum git' needz ta grab do orciness chart!

>>52356857
Oi, wot's da matta. Is green, innit?

>>52356781
Also people who post in skaven speak are annoying

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updated.

As far as my guesses:
#11 is kharadron overlords (not going to confirm until they show the sprues)
#13 is perhaps Mortation's base
#14 is from the Death Guard marine kits (not going to confirm until they show more pictures)
#17 is some 40k terrain, perhaps from the shadow war box?
#18 is rumored aelves

>>52356868
Yeah... but ez' gots a funny lookin' gob. Even grotz iz greenz. Proppa orcz got lotz o' teef.

>>52356882
Typical man-thing. You don't get-known that most skaven posters are fake yes-yes.

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>>52356902
Wot if I changed his iron gob to look more like dis 'un?

Da wood might burn fasta, too, and dat'd be good fer a laff!

>>52356893
>literally nothing about orruks

OY! Wot gives?

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>>52356924
Har'! Let's go ask da' boss!

>>52356893
I think the door is Kharadron and the weird circle thing is either Beastmen or Orruks.

>>52356959
How do you see Beastmen or Orruks?

>>52356959
You talking about #14? and im pretty sure that one goes to the new 40k death guard. they have the nurgle blightkings look and that seems to fit it

>>52356935
Ogors are basically honorary orcs at this point. Like Giants and Trolls

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>>52356962
Crude metal bits for Orruks, pic related for Beastmen.

>>52356998
Dey ain't orcs. They iz big, tuff, and killy. But dey ain't as green or mean.

>>52357031
Huh. I'm seeing chainmail instead of fur, but I see why that might be it, if it isn't something Destruction, more Blood Bowl or that new Death Guard.

It could be Skaven, too, but that'd be grasping at straws.

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Has anyone got the bloodbowl orcs and some Ironjawz? I'm curious to know if they'd work well as ardboys

Is the Clan Skryre battalion worth 200 points?

The various enginecoven abilities seem neat, but you'll generally only get 2 at 2000 points, and giving up 10% of your list for them seems like a hefty tax.

So guys, what do you expect from the new Aelves?

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>>52357631
Eels, Anon. Eeeeels.

>>52357631
Probably something like Dark Eldars (or Dark Wardancers), probably Mallerion miniature.

Just got into AoS, already have Sigmarines and Bloodbound from Starter Set.


Got the offer to buy a Virulent Horde battleforce, and I want to build a Nurgle-Pestilens army. Is the battleforce good or should I just buy 2x Start Collecting Pestilens?

I can guarantee we'll be seeing a new Tomb Kings and Settra in Age of Sigmar in the next 2 years.

>>52357767
I hope they keep being creative and do what they want to do. I've been consistently surprised by each battletome and the interesting stuff it contains.

I rebellious army of wights in Shyish would be neat though.

>>52357726
You think the "deep one aelves" will be Ulgu?
One of the Silver Tower Aelf races? (I know nothing about their backstory or stuff.)

>>52357871
I'm going to say yes, because there were weird tentacles on that one shadow aelf from Silver Tower.

>>52357631
Something like demonhunters from warcraft. Something that tries to fight evil with evil in a kinda chaotic/good way.

>>52357871
> will be Ulgu?
Yep.
>"deep one aelves"
Wut?

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>>52357891
Cthulu Tentacle'd Aelves with a Kraken/Sea Creature aesthetic.

Like the Dark Elf pirates taken to an extreme.

Is there any actual info regarding karadron rules, points or $ cost?

>>52357905
>Cthulu Tentacle'd Aelves
Why would you think they will be such aelves?

>>52357955
Sure, the two big ships are transports, you can put more dudes in there than the max, but it fucks with the movement.

Balloon guys don't add to the limit because they just get dragged along.

There's also different bonuses for different cloud cities, done through battalions.

>>52357964
rumours, the sole reason anyone thinks that we're getting elves next in the first place

>>52357905
The thing i fear the most, that it will be a complete new range. I hate that. they should recycle the old ranges and do not abandon them. The Overlord should get the copters and a few other duardin. Maybe some stuff from the ironweld arsenal. But no - all new.
And now i think we'll get "deep one aelves" and the more medicore corsairs stay their old faction...

>>52357964
Because it was said. from rumour guys not GW on the other hand.

>>52354168
Well, remember that Seraphons have Start Collecting box

PLASTIC

SQUIGS

WHEN

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>>52358065
This!!!

I can't decide for my tzaangor colour scheme.
When it comes to armour I'm ripped between box-art turquoise one, black+gold form pyrofane cult and violet-cheery with gold trims (my own idea).
When it comes to skin I wanted to make grey priming, fast white drybrush and use mix of washes and glazes to make all kind of skintones, form blue to green, blue and purple. My other idea was to fully replicate scheme of Pyrofane Cult (pink tzaangor skin and black+gold armour).

What to do?

>>52358482
I would go with custom idea for armour and all kind of skintones

>>52354170

Gotrek ascended to godhood

Felix's journal had to have survived whatever happened somehow

tfw Felix is a Stormcast

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muh dick

>>52358734
So many guns
>supremecy mine
Ahaha a nuke

>>52358734
Do we know anything about packaging? I really want to see a start collecting box for them

>>52358851
They don't release start collecting for a long time with brand new armies which sucks.

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>>52358866
Nah Anon, no need to dramatise the situation - they released pic related for AoS and Deathwatch SC! for 40k not so long ago

>>52358881
Yes.. but these sets are of pre-existing minis or partially.
They have not released any SC for entirely new miniatures.
Examples no Fyreslayer SC or GSC SC

>>52358896
while not completely true, since stormcast and bloodbound both have SC boxes, there is no way overlords are getting a start collecting.

>>52358896
>GSC SC
Fuck me, I thought that some of GSC releases have pre-existing minis

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>>52358734
>duncan will probably do a video showing us how to paint those circular windows/lenses

>>52358915
they do, the genestealers. Nothing else though.

When building plague drones, should I glue the riders ontop of them or should I keep them "loose" so I could take them on and off?

>>52358911
Stormcast and Bloodbound are old now the game came out in 2015. So we are looking at a year or more before SC appear for the new stuff.

>>52358932
Magnetize the whole model m8
http://theroadtovalhalla.blogspot.com/2013/09/6-plague-drones-completed-in-1-week.html

>>52358919
it will probably be that 2min long tip of the day, instead of full guide.

Heck, they didn't even bother to make a full guide to Gulliman and Cypher. Even as xeno player I'm MAD.

>>52358734
what I dont like is that its just too much metal.
I get its steam punk dorfs but this is just look more 40k'ish than fantasy for my taste

>>52359153
There's going to be full guides on painting arkanauts and sky boats in next white dwarf. The new white dwarf guides are actually pretty good too.

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>>52359166
It's not a fantasy Anon - it's high fantasy. But to be serious - it's all about a taste. IMO they are one step from kitsch but this is what makes them neat. They are like Injustice comic book - bad to the point where they become great

>>52354310
Don't use Devoted of Sigmar. Use the special characters in Freeguild. Those are untouched legacy units that only exist as figments of the past and thus use the original rules for Warrior Priests allowing you to target anything in your army. The Devoted of Sigmar got an updated tweak where now all of their prayers and the like only benefit other Devoted of Sigmar.

You'll want Luthor or Volkmar, not a regular ole Warrior Priest.

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super pumped about Aelves.

>>52358734
these are awesome too

>>52357955
It's possible to field the entire army as nothing but flying cogfops high in the air on their flying bases, completely invalidating any and all melee units that aren't the size of an Arachnarok or Chimera.

>>52359230
>it's high fantasy.
High fantasy doesn't mean incoherency
>they are one step from kitsch but this is what makes them neat.
How exactly?

Newfag with potentially dumb question: Is there a general rule on how many points you should put into heros? Like eg. 200 at 1000 points, 400 at 2000 points? I'm asking because 1) I see a lot of heros grant huge synergistic benefits even if they're not the general and 2) some leaders riding behemoths are over 400 points (presumably for use mainly in 2500 point game? but I guess you could even run them at 1000, lel)

Or if there's no general rule then how many points do you personally spend on HQ dudes at 1000 and 2000?

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>>52359447
>incoherency

>>52359475

It totally depends on your faction, and what the rest of your list is.

>>52359230
And where is high fantasy on this picture?

>>52359475
it really depends on the faction of your army, some armies are better off with more heroes, others less.

as a general rule don't try to max out your leader slots unless by doing so you actually make your army better. Lots, maybe even most, of the leaders in the game are not worth the points they cost.

>>52359475
>Spiderfang Grots
380 at 1000 points, 940 at 2000.
>Freeguild
100 at 1000 points, 100 at 2000 though I've toyed around with up to 280.

The main reason for those numbers is the Spiderfangs will always need a Shaman and a Big Boss, and up at 2000 you'll want to take the battalion that requires 3 Arachnaroks and the Flingers are simply worthless. Having at least 2 of the bastards gives redundancy and lets you cast all three spells, and unbind like a motherfucker. And you may as well make the third a shaman just to give yourself a variety of origins for the unique spell. Meanwhile the Freeguild has a shitton of internal synergy and the General is mostly there for his Command Ability and the purposes of unlocking the battalions. The 280 is room for Engineers for war machines and Volkmar/Luthor for prayers and unbinding.

It's highly dependent both upon the army you play and the way in which you play them. Synergy is literally everything in AoS so if you're playing a faction like Spiderfangs that need the Big Boss to buff their to hits to unlock spider venom on 4+ and the shaman to double the Mortal wounds, you're gonna have a lot. If you mostly just use 'em for Stand and Fire and unlocking formations, you're gonna use much fewer, potentially supported by something to unbind or to support war machines if you take them.

>>52359504
In filename you dummy

So wat this big adepticon reveal was nothing just some shitty board game, does anyone actually give a shit?

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>>52356893

The door

>>52359479
What's wrong? All new armies (Sylvaneths, fireslayers, SCE, Ironjaws, Bloodbound, Tzeench) sets setting as some high mythical fantasy, and then they've dropped fully high-tech faction (not just some mysterious mechanisms like Slann's ships) and make it looks like another average "let's mix everything"-setting

Let's say I need a tiny shoulder dragon for conversion purposes. Are there any reasonable options? Preferably from GW, but not necessarily. I recall that some Dark Elf model had a dragon on its shoulder, but it was molded in and impossible to remove basically.

>>52359603
Then what makes you think it's high fantasy, not renamed Pacific Rim concept?

So what is the night goblin fluff now?

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>>52359617
Sure buddy. Never at all there was in AoS lots of guns, steampunk and other mechanisms. The Overlords just use it more than others, but it's literally the same as whining that Tzeentch is incoherent because it uses lots of magic while Fireslayers, Bloodbound, Beastclaws and SCE don't use it.

>>52359625
The treelord kit has a load of spites filling in all the spare room on the sprue. One of those might do, with a little bit of work.

>>52359495
>>52359543


I see. I'm having difficulty deciding what to do but I guess I'll just figure it out as I go. It just seems weird to make a potential list and then realize it's almost entirely made up of infantry and behemoths and there's only 1 leader or something.

>>52359590

Thank you very much anon, this actually helped a lot. I think I see what to do now/why it would depend on the individual army.

>>52359667
Moonman Moonklan.

>>52359686
>lots of guns, steampunk and other mechanisms.
Not from XIX and XX centuries.
>The Overlords just use it more than others,
Yes and totally turning setting into "40k in Planescape"

>>52358734
>once again GW discarded variability, intricacies and soft textures for cleaner and uniformed stuff
fuck

>>52359780

>Not from XIX and XX

Fuck, have you even seen Azyrheim? Screw XX century, that's almost futuristic.

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>>52359780
>Not from XIX and XX centuries.

I love 1700 helicopters bombers

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>>52359780
>he still doesnt know what High Fantasy is

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>>52359780
Yeah, never before there has been a setting where dwarf technology was centuries ahead of everything else.

>>52359612

I'm salty about it too anon. I'm a Nurgle player but I was excited to see new stuff.

I love the direction they've taken everything so far and I wanted to see these alleged "Shadow Aelves".

There was so much hype and now it's been like three threads of everyone obsessing over/fetishizing the one monopose female Stormcast they revealed for yet another SCE vs. BB box set.

All we've gotten are tidbits of information on the new Kharadron rules, that's it.

At this point I say all the rumormongers can go fuck themselves for hyping us for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Anticlimactic bullshit, I say.

>>52359713

Thanks, I'll see if my Sylvaneth friend has any left over. They might work with some conversion. I don't necessarily need a dragon, just some sort of shoulder companion thing.

when will the new midgets get released? this year?

>>52360104
Don't know about space marines but steam dwarves in april IIRC

>>52360104
preorders on April 8th. Khorne battletome the 1st.

So it's confirmed Bloodbounds are going to remain a joke.

>>52360153
oh yeah, we need more bloodbound models, and then stormcasts, then more order, then stormcasts, then chaos...

I really want to lile AoS, I like the simplified and easy rules, but fuckif the lore isn't off putting. Is it really just superhuman A murderfucking Superhuman B, or is there any identifiable, relatable lore to it?

>>52360205
It's just your opinion man - how could anyone help you with it? Just make your dudes and have some fun or try other game

>>52359822
>that's almost futuristic.
It's more like Asgard from Thor movies.
>>52359835
Again one unit, not the whole faction
>>52359857
>any random shit is High Fantasy
Really?
>>52359868
Yes, one city have builded few dreadnoughts

>>52360227
>Yes, one city have builded few dreadnoughts
Yes, one group of dwarves is using steampunk baloones

>>52360227
>It's more like Asgard from Thor movies.

You mean the fantascientific city of hyper advanced aliens?

>>52360190
no new models for bloodbound

>>52360205
In case of lore, just give up dude. Probably the best fluff is what made on your own, ignoring the rest.

>>52360265
>You mean the fantascientific city of hyper advanced aliens?
More like fantasy city where word of "magic" was replaced by "muh science"

>>52360239
One of the major

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>>52360227
>Really?
Yes

Welcome to High Fantasy

>>52359876
This. Hastings and Atia can go fuck themselves.

>>52359445
Do we know if the Airships can be struck in combat at all? i'm betting they'll have a rule where you can't even hit them in melee unless you fly or possibly if you are a monster as a huge fuck you to most armies in the game

>>52360205
The Stormcast, while superhuman physically, are still very human emotionally. The new City of Secrets book focuses on a witch hunter and an empire soldier, while the Stormcast are trreated as suitably alien and powerful. AoS is getting a human level to it, of only recently.

>>52360205
>Is it really just superhuman A murderfucking Superhuman B, or is there any identifiable, relatable lore to it?

Nah sometimes you get to see the one Skaven clan that exists whose goal is essentially a Crash bandicoot/DBZ tier quest to fix the 13 magical muffins which they'll never do

Sometimes you get to star-lizards who bleed sunlight and shit rainbows But they can't do anything without the help of Superhuman sigmarines and their guidance

And to be fair you DO get some really interesting Goblin and Elf Lor-rrhhppffthhahahaHAHAHAHAH
Oh god i couldn't even type this without chuckling

>>52360576
>28 AUD book
What is this a misprint.

>>52360576
mostly of kharadron releases are not price/date in this white dwarf, maybe comes later

>>52360598
not book--- warscroll cards

>>52360320
>Yes
Since when "settings" like legaue of legends became "high fantasy", not "awful settings"?

>>52360631
They were always high fantasy

"awful setting" is subjective

>>52360663
>"awful setting" is subjective
Yeah sure.

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>>52360576
>a book is 83 fucking kiwibucks

>>52360631
A setting can be both 'awful' and 'high fantasy'. One is the genre it belongs too, the other is a description of its quality. those things are not mutually exclusive.

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>>52360576
>20 hours of work for battletome and cards

>>52358734
What do you guys think about using the new death guard stuff in AOS when it comes out? Power armor is in the setting now, and I could call them KO that were turned to nurgle

I kind of like the idea of celestial knights watching over mortals in a fantasy wasteland.
Its starting to feel like the old world only limitless.

>>52360329
You can go fuck yourself. Atia said nothing on the subject, and Hastings only said that Cthulhu elves are coming, not that they're gonna be revealed at Adepticon.

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>>52360896
Man, you can proxy your minis with salami slices if your group is okay with this - it's not /tg/ you should be asking about

>>52360896
Use them as proxies? Its FINE, but if you want full brownie points you could at least do some conversion stuff.

>>52360429
They're flyers, what else is there to explain?

>>52360954
No, I want to use them as blightkings

>>52359876
BUT WHERE ARE THESE RUMOURS!!! I can find NO rumours that shit was to be revealed at adepticon, just faggots here assuming it was.

>>52357348
Giving them a weapon hand would make them look to be in the thick of it.

>>52360915
Atia posted 'tomorrow' when people asked about the rumour engine pic from Wednesday. Hastings got even more specific. It's all in the comments on War of Sigmar. Stop whiteknighting her. People are underdstandably disappointed.

>>52361021
This.

>>52360934
I once saw a motherfucker proxy minis with ACORNS, wish I was making this up

>>52360980
This.

>>52361096
Remember when I was teaching my GF how to play AoS with old pokemon tazos and credit card as a ruler. That's funny because I actually made it thanks to fuckin free rules on GW store.

>>52359614
Well I'll be damned. There you go

>>52359686
This

>>52361096
Did anyone agree to play with him?

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>>52361096
>>52360934
>Not proxying your Helpit with a dead rat you found in the trash like a true unemployed skaven player

do you guys even poorfag

>>52360239
>Yes, numerous different sky cities are now making use of wide-spread steampunk balloons.
In Fantasy, it was literally just one town doing this shit. In AoS it's a third of all dwarves.

>>52360731
It is. It may be hard to believe different people have different opinions

>>52360429
That's literally how flying works. If a flying model is four inches off of the ground, you cannot attack it unless you have a weapon that reaches that far. Also, I want to say someone saw a sneak peak that had something about the fact that non-flying units won't be able to charge it.

>>52361271
>In AoS it's a third of all dwarves
Wait, KO make a 1/3 of all dwarven population in numbers? Source?

>>52361249
He looked like a thug, the guy who played with him was probably scared of a beating if he refused.

Which of these armies is best for a new player:

>Clan Skryre
>Clan Pestilens
>Moonclan Grots
>Khorne Bloodbound

>>52361271
>a third
>implying Dispossessed aren't Jewish Diaspora levels of pathetic numbers
Probably closer to 3/7, with the Fyreslayers the same, and Dispossessed as a bunch of sad homeless faggots.

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>>52361325
Definitely the Klan. Get them white pointed robes and Moonman banners and shields ready! The Grots will rise again! Kill all diggers!

>>52361325
New player as in new to age of sigmar or new to miniature wargaming?
Either way, it's the one whose miniatures you like best.

>>52361325
Clan Skryre

>>52361325
Order: Stormcast
Chaos: Khorne
Death: Lol
Destruction: Ironjawz

>>52361270
I keep walking past a dead rat on my round when I'm at work (I'm a postman) and it keeps getting more and more twisted and bloody. If it wasn't so disgusting I'd pick it up and use it for something. I suppose if it rots/gets eaten down to the skeleton I could nick it's skull and use that for something.

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>>52361346
Dude, no.

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>>52361369
Moon head is an attribute of Tzeentch.

>>52361325
I would go with with Khorne. Yeah, they are pretty shit right now but have a lot of unit models, heroes models and new battletome in april. Also they are pretty cheap - just grab SC! box and starter set half

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>>52361381
And it's been this way since the earliest editions.

>>52361369
>>52361381
>>52361395
Kay. And does running a Tzeentch army give me a massive horde of goblins in robes and pointed hoods -- painted white -- with Moonman iconography all over the place and jet black squigs painted with bright red lips? No? Then I don't give a shit about Bird Boy.

>>52361348

Officially not new to miniature wargaming, I've played a few games of 40k, but I'm not exactly experienced.

>>52361440
If you like Nurgle, you can also go with Nurgle Daemons - idiot-proof, newbie-friendly, can be used in AoS and 40k both

>>52361462

See, that's why I liked the idea of Pestilens and Bloodbound. I could expand out to their respective gods' other armies.

I don't mind cross-compatibilty with 40k, I don't plan to play it anymore.

>>52361478
Pure Pestilens are okay - don't have a lot of options but are easy to collect. Shame that their battletome is an "old generation" one but they are not bad.

Khornes are not the best faction right now but are cheap, have a lot of options and new battletome will give use a lot of new ways to play I hope. Go with the blood god I say

>>52361288
Yes that's how it works if you use the retarded measuring from model-to-model method. If you go base measuring, it does not become an issue.

You know the dilemma if a normal foot soldier not being able to touch archaon? Well that issue goes away when you do base-to-base measuring. It's an issue that doesn't come up in tournaments or events.

So you can proceed to bitch about it because you use the stupid model-to-model measuring, meanwhile the rest of us are going to find it a non-issue while doing base-to-base measuring.

>>52361573
To be fair, base-to-base can be just as retarded in other instances. Like the fact that a mob of grots can charge a flying airship that may as well be fifty to a hundred feet above them. And if you don't think that gor punching a zeppelin to death is retarded, I have news for you. You're retarded.

>>52361615

So instead there should be models that some entire FACTIONS just can't hurt?

>>52361440
Then, I'd neither pick Skaven nor Grots, as horde armies are sometimes frustrating to paint.

But still, if you like their aesthetic more than the rest, go for it!

>>52359876
>getting hype for anything ever
It's almost as if you want to be dissapointed.

>>52361629
Name a single FACTION without ranged weapons or behemoths.

>want to play Bloodbound
>can't paint flesh well

why live

why can't i serve the blood god

>>52361687
They're not much flesh (except for reavers)

>>52361685
That's not the point. Just about every faction has ranged weapons and behemoths, but many are very limited in their choices of them. To say it should be this way is the same level of 40k meta retardation.

Base to base measuring literally evens the playing field against this kind of stuff. And I plan to collect kharadron overlords and see why letting grots punch the ships by being base to base with it is a better option than going "neener neener neener you can't touch me!"

>>52361731
Way to move the goalpost. And nah, still fucking retarded.

>>52361780
yeah, ok. sure buddy.

>>52361655

I was thinking of Moonclan because they seem pretty easy to paint, plus I like their fluff. But I'm worried about their lack of support. I know Skaven and Khorne are gonna get new stuff, but I don't know Moonclan will. It feels like destruction other than ironjawz are an afterthought.

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>Grot Big Boss sold out all week
>Wait for Saturday for it to refresh
>See it in stock while cooking Russian potato salad
>Finish cooking and find it already sold out
Fucking reeeeee. What's with the fake scarcity anyways?

>>52361876
They are an afterthought. And that's actually good news. Instead of becoming hilariously invalidated by constant releases, Destruction is so far from GeeDub's attention that you needn't worry about being replaced because Destruction's never going to get new shit in general! And yeah, those crisp white robes are pretty easy to paint. Plus, you get a nice selection of theme music for inspiration while painting.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fXVOfSHhjA

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>>52361419

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>>52361920
Also look into Frostgrave Cultists. Pic attached

>>52360205

The lore is absolute fucking trash. I just play with the new rules and pretend it's in the Old World where appropriate. Or that it's in the new Age of No Identifiable Fluff, but that my opponent and I went through a fucked up realm gate that sent us back in time to WHFB. Or something like that.

The fluff is absolutely fucking terrible and for a lot of factions non-existent. Everything else is better than WHFB though.

>>52361876
Then go moonclan! They're really fun to play, I also like the unpredictability and over-the-top-theme of them. Plus you have loads of conversion opportunities.

>>52361916

>LE MOONKLAN MOONMAN KKK MEME XDDDDDD

Literally worse than "reddit rats" and the "superhuman" shitposter.

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>>52360865
>he makes less than $40/hr

>>52361953

Also, if you're interested in fluff, Moonclan have one of the strongest cases for being able to take basically any other destruction unit in their list, because everything that isn't a grot, they just capture and force to work for them. Giants, trolls, ogres, orcs, various monsters.

>>52361916
>Not painting your moonclan grots' robes navy blue with a faded lavendar hood
What are you some kind of faggot?

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>>52361988
I make 2,5$ per hour mate

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>>52362007

>>52362007
What third-world country do you live in? Jesus.

>>52362004
Just a simply Green Supremacist, looking to string up diggers and knife-ears.

>>52361969
Cry more, jabroni.

>>52360865
Where on Earth do you live?

>>52361876
>>52361995
Yes! Also, this allows you to be very versatile and cover your weaknesses through clever conversions.

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>>52362060
>>52362034
Poland. I'm spending 8-10 hours per day at uni so you know - it's something like 1/4 time job, 2 days per week

>>52362097
>>52361995

Just buy some fine jeweller's chain and tie it around the necks of anything you wanna use. I made manacles as well as chains for my giant.

>>52362098
Ah. Then drown your sorrows in mayonez and pierogi. And then get more sorrow because pierogi is strictly inferior to pelmeni.

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>>52361988

>he makes less than a salary of, at the bare minimum, $10,000 per month

lmfao @ ur life

I can't believe you're trying to imply that other slightly-poorer poorfag is a poorfag. You are a plebeian and a hypocrite.

>>52362161
>mayonez
What the fuck - don't you know what mustard is?
>And then get more sorrow because pierogi is strictly inferior to pelmeni
I prefer fruit filling tho

Complete newbie to wargaming. Put together a 1k point list of models I like. Am I ok running two heroes at this level, and should the Sisters of the Thorn be in two 5 man units or one big 10man unit instead?

Waywatcher -General
Spellweaver

10 Sisters of the Watch -Battleline
10 Glade Guard -Battleline

2x5 Sisters of the Thorn

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>>52362190
>he is a wageslave
LOL

Next time try being born a saudi prince you pleb faggot

>>52362196
>everything about this post
Disgusting. I will think of you with pity when I eat my kotlet and Russian salad with syrnik and condensed milk for dessert. Pity and disgust.

>>52362196
>having pierogi with mustard
absolutely outrageous, you deserve to have a low salary

I'm from Poland too, I have a pretty shitty job and earn around $500 a month. It's enough for living + some money on the hobby. Living here is probably a lot cheaper than in US.

>>52362268
I didn't say I eat them with mustard and I hope this anon >>52362161 is not eating his with mayonez. Pierogi should be eaten with cream or thick yogurth
>>52362264
You know we have sernik and kotlety too, right?

>>52362196
Good taste
pierogies with fruit are so based

>>52362312
yoghurt*

>>52362208
GW spellweavers?

>>52362225

Post timestamp of shitskin, shitskin.

>>52362324
Fuck that shit. Just make blin and put on jam/preserves. Dumpling is meant to be meat-pocket, not faggot-pocket.

>>52362312
Sour cream is pathetic reflection of mayonez whose only real purpose is for potato. But is always eclipsed by mayonez. And fuck off with your yogurt, kebab. Just drink kefir. And I am aware Poles have good food, you simply seem to be a stupid kurwa and refuse to eat the good for the poor.

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>>52362324
Thanks - good taste is in my silesian nature

>>52362342
Yeah either that or paint a Dark Elf Sorceress in a greener theme.

So how the shit do I do anything with grot heroes? They're 4 wounds default, so they die basically immediately.

>>52362440
dont put them in combat

keep out of sight of enemy shooting

>>52362440
Do like any good grot would do: hide behind your 'friends'

>>52362208

2 5 (wo)man units is way better, they can buff each other and/or both of your other units. Combined with the Spellweaver they can be really hard to remove. They do get a bonus as a unit of 10 but it's better to do 2x5 imo.

Also I run 2 heroes at 1k as well sometimes, except I go with Nomad Prince and Spellweaver usually (sometimes I use the exact same combo you are using, it works fine). You will have problems with some armies with that few units, but it should be okay. When you go above 1000 points I'd note that Sisters of the Watch and Sisters of the Thorn both work really well with 20-man Eternal Guard blocks as a "fuck you, this is my objective now" sort of thing. Especially if the Spellweaver is also nearby to restore dead people.

>>52362440
>>52362467

Also use the shit out of their hero abilities. Grot heroes are pure support heroes. If you want a hero to kill shit, pull in some orcs or ogres.

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>>52361687

>>52362440
>grot heroes
>that aren't 6 or 14 wounds
Wimpy little cowards. Get the shit bit out of you by spiders, and then you'll be fearless enough to survive. Though a good big boss always smartly values his life over every other grots.

>>52362208
Like I said upthread, the amount of heroes is entirely dependent on the army. I would never even consider running Spiderfang without both the shaman and big boss at 1k, while I'd never consider running more than just a General with my theoretical Renegade Freeguild at 1k.

I honestly can't offer much help with Wanderers, but I'd suspect that you'd want to just run one unit of 10. You're only going to be able to cast Shield of Thorns once, no matter how many units of Sisters of the Thorn you have, so you might as well get the buff to your casting at the same time.

>>52362540
>that fucking Horde emblem

>>52362480
Oh yeah it does sound like Eternal Guard would synergise well with the Sisters. I appreciate the advice, it's good to hear that the setup works well. Thank you!

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>>52362385
>silesian
>good

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>>52361364
You're going to clean and disinfect that skull, right anon?

>>52359504
>Giant magitech robot

>Where is the high fantasy?

Beyond the lofty peaks of your autism.

>>52362034
Boy do I sure hate diggers!

>>52362565
Oh oops, I can only cast a certain spell once per turn? I suppose the other 5man unit could cast Mystic Shield or Arcane Bolt. I'll have to play around with it and see how useful the +1 to cast and unbind is.

>>52362659
>it's just a jaeger or any other generic mecha
>literally nothing points to it being fantasy at all
Cool.

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>>52359617
>Comparing realm life created organisms that exist to tend trees and grow forests to

>survivors of the world that was, that was destroyed thousands of years ago that built an empire upon the magic of metal, and dwarvern engineering.

>>52362676
Yeah, it's a pity. I'd love it if all of my Shaman on Arachanrok could cast Gift of the Spider-God to cover my army with that hilariously stupid spell, but the Three Rules of One say no to that.

>>52362671
Damn straight. They were lazy slaves, and now they think they own our tunnels! Buncha useless diggers. If they don't like the true rulers of the underground, they oughta go back to where they came from!

>>52359780
>Helicopters were being built and used thousands of years ago in a time the world wasn't literally made of magic
>Giant robots were part of empire parades
>Tanks were used by human militaries
>Bloodcrushers of Khorne and Soulgrinders tore their way from the warp to kill men
>All of this was thousands of years in the past, so long that no mortal, not even the sylvaneth, can remember it.
>There was an aeons long period of utopia to foster technological development among the mortal races

KYS

http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Beastwomen

Which one of you fuckboys did this?

>>52360205
Stormcast are especially powerful people.

A fair portion of these 'super human khornate warriors' they're fighting are literally just barbarian humans that became khornate canibals so they wouldn't get killed.

Freeguild, aelves, dwarves, etc are all extant and had important roles in fighting against chaos.

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>>52362798
Indisputable canon.

>>52362427
>Yeah
I thought they were OOP with most of WE models

>>52361419
Where do you live that you can field an army like that?

>>52362225
>Being born a filthy shitskin in an inferior culture

God I'd rather be the polish faggot and he's a fucking slav.

>>52362868
When you do live that you can't? Commiefornia?

>>52362574

You're welcome, anon. Good luck with your Wanderers. There aren't many of us Wood Elf players in /aosg/ but if you have a question just try asking a few threads in a row and one of us will probably see it.

>>52362880
Answer the question, I'm legitimately curious.

>>52362841
Not in Sweden at least. I thought the Spellweaver was a fairly recent release. Came out alongside the Sisters of the Thorn, right?

>>52362762
>>Giant robots were part of empire parades
Yeah, part of parades, like mechanical animals.
>>There was an aeons long period of utopia to foster technological development among the mortal races
So we both can agree that the current lore is nothing more than Marvel Nine Worlds, okay.

>>52362901
The Southeast.

>>52362903
Nope

>>52362904
Do you have an actual point?

>>52362904
>Accepts the old world was at least 1700's technologically, if not 1800's.
>Autisms himself into not understanding how the kind of logic that would build a *helicopter* couldn't be applied to magic gold that makes things lighter than air
>Doesn't understand that using the magic gold is a step down in technology from helicopters
KYS

>Marvel
No, I'm not agreeing to that. That would imply AOS is blackwashing established historical characters.

"Heimdaller" is black is literally the only thing I know about marvels norse shit anyway.

I'd entertain it being GW's Magic the Gathering equivalent though.

>>52362912
Funny, that's where I am and I can't imagine my shop letting me get away with that. You got any pictures of the army? It sounds like a fucking riot.

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>>52362912
Southerners reign supreme once more

t. Oklahoman who descended from Confederate Veterans and settled in Oklahoma after the war from Texas.

>>52362904
>Marvel Nine Worlds
Well, it's not owned by D*sney, so AoS is better by default.

>>52362937
>Do you have an actual point?
Nope, just talking about impressions of AoS lore and common aesthetic.
>>52362952
>>Accepts the old world was at least 1700's technologically, if not 1800's.
Only Dorfs, Empire still was in 15-16 (probably early 17) mostly + some crazy DaVinci-like tech (tanks, old flying crossbowmens).
>"Heimdaller" is black is literally the only thing I know about marvels norse shit anyway.
Well city of Asgard builded around planetoid and populated by super-humans (well technically they are aliens, but still looks like humans) in golden armor.

>>52362981
>Well, it's not owned by D*sney, so AoS is better by default.
How exactly, especially when in some interview authors said they were inspired by New Gods and Tales of Asgard.

>>52362958
Where do you live, Atlanta? I can't imagine anywhere in the Southeast outside of that urban shithole that Moonklan would receive anything other than laughs. And I don't have the army, just considered it as a future expansion when I finish with Spiderfang -- only really have to get two more Arachnaroks for that -- and my Renegade Freeguild. The inspiration came from a buddy of mine from college who had exactly that as an army back when I played Fantasy.

>>52361952
>2 years later, still whining about Old World.

Go fuck yourself into the ninth age.

>>52360569
Pass me some of the drugs you're taking anon. Also, stop sameing 20 posts per thread.

So the games at least halfway decent now, how do we salvage the fluff?

Are Skaven hard to paint?

>>52363152
no, you can get away with lots of drybrushing and washes and the broken and tarnished look they've got going on makes it really easy to hide any fuckups.

>>52363152
not at all. You've got a few main textures:

cloth: wash then layer
skin: wash then layer
fur: drybrush or wash
metal: wash then weather or drybrush or whatever

then just some details to pick out like the eyes and teeth and you're sorted. There are some great tutorials online.

>>52363152
No, but you want to fucking kill yourself for painting an horde army

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Added a bit of lore. R8 or H8?

>>52363274
Too small, too feudal
Also, why watchtowers unprotected?

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I wanna play either Khorne Bloodbound or Beastmen, but they're both too hard to paint well. Beastmen are all flesh and fur which is a kick in the dick to paint large amounts of, and KBB are covered in finicky little details.

>>52363106

>Implying that's whining

AoS has shit lore, deal with it.

>>52363315
>too feudal
That's a problem? I also should probably give some fortifications around the watchtowers, I had that in my mind, but forgot to actually do it.

>>52363363
>I also should probably give some fortifications around the watchtowers,
Then may be around bridges?

>>52363032
Because they're not forced by word of god to make it as bland, mass-marketable and SJW-approved as humanly possible, unlike any franchise owned by the Mouse.

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>>52363319
Try the dip method from army painter. You paint everything a flat base colour and use their special shading stuff, followed by a matt varnish.

>>52363398
>as bland
define "bland" and how Mortal Realms less bland.
>mass-marketable
Isn't it what GW (or any other large company) doing?

>>52363363
>>52363386
Yeah, I'd go with this, anon. Instead of seperating the watchtowers and the bridges, just make Bridge-Castles. Or perhaps one true Bridge-Castle in the center and flank it with a northern and southern Bridge-Tower. Actually historic fortification, and they're dope as fuck.

>>52363447
I was trying to go for more of a 'frontier town' kinda thing, Since there are good natural defence(River) already. I may also be biased because I was making the lore for my beasties.

>>52363481
>Since there are good natural defence(River) already.
Yeah with 2 open passages.
Also, if SCE were deployed the place already important enough to have proper fortification system.

>>52363481
Yes, but why would the Freeguild go to the effort to establish a pair of bridges and then secure them with a trio of watchtowers that could pretty easily be both cut-off and sieged or simply circumvented? Especially given that they are primarily watching over spooky haunted forests against quick-moving Beastmen raiders. Only the southernmost watch tower would likely be able to see danger from far enough to get word out.

If instead you merge bridges and watchtowers into a single fortification, the Freeguild could simply defend two or three spots rather than five. I doubt the beastmen are stupid enough to simply follow the roads and never consider going around the watchtower rather than through it.

There's also no reason you can't have a "frontier town" vibe with bridge-castles. Just make them wooden and slightly more primitive if you don't want stone fortifications.

>>52363151
More gods and pantheons?

>>52363041
Caught you - Moonman wasn't associated with racism back when Fantasy existed.

>>52363325
>comparing a 30 year old setting with a fresh one
get eternally butthurt, grognard

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>>52363560
>>52363502

To be fair, I've just started Age of Sigmar and know very little of the fluff. I thought that having the only land entrances being fortified bridges a wee bit tough to get though for any raiding force (Which is obviously good for Free People, but then leaves any non-Free People faction as literal NPCs waiting to be killed beyond those gates) though maybe the wooden fortifications would be a middle-man. I'm also using Inkarnate.com for the map, so I'm pretty limited in resources for the map. How's this look?

>>52363674
You realize Moonman started in 2006 and fully took off in 2007, right? That's actually years before I started playing Fantasy.

>>52363784

Except it wasn't associated with racist elements until 2015. Stop digging your lie deeper senpai. Own up to it.

I like AoS's lore. It's extremely open and allows me to fit my dudes anywhere and in anyway I see fit.

>>52363740
What is the purpose of the road that goes into the woods? Why did you go from two bridges and three towers to a single castle-bridge if you wanted to make the Freeguild more vulnerable? Just starting isn't really an excuse either, since the fluff is a fat steaming pile of shit that you mostly just make up as you go. As is, though, your Freeguild were basically just literal NPCs waiting to be killed. If you had 2-3 castle-bridges you would have a relatively defensible border that could still be attacked or simply avoided with a direct river crossing.

>>52363816
As painful as this is to do...
>http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/moon-man
He's right, duder. Moonman as a racist image goes back to the days of ytmnd. It's where it all started.

>>52363784
>>52363816

Are you guys retarded? Mac Tonight first premiered in the 80s. Any relevant memes about him today were likely the subversive racist kind.

>>52363853
Yes, Moonman as an image goes back to the McD's commercials. Moonman as a musician goes back to 2006 on ytmnd. Moonman as a racist image goes back to 2007 on ytmnd. And recently, the racist meme took off and surged brighter than ever before.

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>Death

>>52363901
And you're not counting compendium armies because

>>52363911
because it's clearly just a list of the battletomes that have been released

>>52363816
>http://moonmankkk.ytmnd.com/
>Date: September 3, 2007

>>52363911
Not him, but it's hard to count unsupported armies.

>>52363842
I was thinking trading or possibly toward another realmgate? Maybe I should make a frontier town across the river?

>>52363725

>muh grognard boogeyman

I started playing after WHFB was already kill. AoS has terrible and mostly non-existent lore so I looked at the old stuff to see what I was missing. It's 10,000x better.

>>52363983
>I dislike AoS
Cool

/tg/, should I go with:

>first choice for fluff but incapable of painting them to a presentable standard
>second choice for fluff, easy to paint, but unsatisfying
>third choice for fluff but first choice for gameplay. Still only bronze medal for fluff.

>>52364052

I like AoS you double nigger, read the reply chain. I was telling an anon to just ignore the shitty lore and make his own up or use WHFB lore, because the game itself is good.

>>52363820
>It's extremely open and allows me to fit my dudes anywhere and in anyway I see fit.
So as emptiness

Are gitmob grots good? I love warmachines and want to field as many as possible whats the best units in gitmob grots?

>>52364276
The shittiest grot army, from what I've heard.

>>52364276
If you play gitmob, you play them for cheap hordes and warmachines. They are not exactly amazing, but serviceable. Moonclan are outright better, but lack the warmachines by themselves.

>>52364095
What armies, m8?

>>52364346

>KBB
>Moonclan
>Skaven

>>52357968
how the hell is this going to be viable and not utterly broken ?

>>52364431
Why wouldn't it be utterly broken?

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>>52360190
fun fact fun, stormcast recieved a second release before the whole death grand alliance, who didn't even recieved any new model

yes i am mad

>>52364557
Enjoy. You are now suffering from the curse that Settra put upon Nagash in return for ole Rattle Me Bones being a giant shitty fuckwad. Just as the Tomb Kings will be forgotten to the sands of time, so shall all Dead Things waste away in limbo.

>>52361685
khorne bloodbound for instance
and there is so much minifaction, i'm sure some of them do too

>>52364666
>KBB
Valkyia can fly, and you have Skaarloc, Scyla, and Khorgoraths at the minimum that would be able to reach a flier.

>>52364608
damned

>>52364431
it will really depend how many points it costs and exactly what id does for those points. Its really to early to be throwing around "broken" at this point.

>>52364766
what in the bloodgod name is scyla and skaarloc ? forge world stuff ?
but that doesn't change the problem :
a whole shooty army that is unreachable by most is going to be as op as eldar scatbike/D-scythe/2+ cover-save in kill team/grav-gun/fish of furry
i mean, they will shoot hard, will have decent save because dwarf, and will be unreachable thanks to flying transport
i only see tzeentch and stormcast standing against this nonsense

>>52364766
>>52364914
i forget the slaughterpriest can also shoot
mine finished a stormcast lord on dracoth like that

>>52364914
Skaarlac is Forgeworld, but Scyla Anfingrimm is right there on the GeeDubs site. And yeah, you do realize that you're talking about rules coming from the company that made the very cheese you're comparing it to? Why wouldn't you suspect them being shit at balance when they have a track record of being shit at balance?

>>52364431
The biggest ship is the size of a Baneblade if not a little bit fuller. So it will probably be priced like a Baneblade. And people that are willing to give GeeDubs $140 for a single lump of plastic deserve a treat for their loyalty.

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>>52363948
>Model ranges actively supported with new rules are not supported

Kill yourself you fucking retard.

>>52363901
Why tzeentch is present two times?

>>52365009
Compendium armies are only supported until thier AoS reimagined counterparts are released. They will be then promptly squatted. All the tolkien esque stuff is getting discontinued

>>52365048
The Gauntdude is probably meant to represent Everchosen.

>>52364557
We just have to accept it. We're, may Nagash forgive me for what I'm going to write, lower than SoB in geedubs priority list.

>>52365063
It's what you deserve for joining that False God rather than siding with the Eternal Ruler of Nehekhara. Settra didn't kneel, the Tomb Kings were unmade (or in my case, sold), and now Death is a stagnant pit of darkness.