In a 1950s vision of the future of space, what do you need besides

>>52337307

Exotic planets.

Dangerous beasts.

Robots.

>>52337626
Sexy robots.

>>52337307
separate drinking fountains and bathrooms for the different species

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>>52337307

Why does like no modern SF have rayguns anymore? Like they are fun, so much fun that even Margaret Atwood had them in Oryx and Crake and she usually tries to keep things as realistic as possibru
Oh also danger and peril and dudes with muscles but not too much muscle fighting villains that are fucking psychotically brutal

>>52337751
Basically we learned how "rays" work. Charged particle suffer from dispersion due to repulsion, and using ionizing radiation would be tough for you to shield yourself against your own weapon.

something is really wrong with her right leg in that op

>>52337666
Or really clunky, bulky robots.

>>52337806

Yeah but Science fiction still features humanity going to space and not industrial civilization collapsing in the 21st century and eventually going extinct thanks to climate change so why give a toss about realism in that one instance?

>>52337307
Room-sized computers.

Slide rules.

Tough space frontiersmen.

>>52337307
Classic "grey" aliens.

>>52337307
Every planet has earth-like gravity and atmosphere. EVERY SINGLE ONE.

Every "evil" alien or alien creature has lecherous designs towards female PC's.

Ancient, mysterious powers that are either actually super-advanced science or "not-magic".

Anti-gravity and faster than light travel.

No solid state circuitry. Everything is vacuum tubes and ginormous.

Women are only for distraction, being the mother figure or kidnapping.

A good right hook will ultimately beat any alien creature no matter how big and strong.

Guns are absolutely deadly, no matter what the type, UNLESS you're a PC.

>>52337751
When they find out the average American prefer actual guns in their fiction.

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Here, have a few images in the same vein...

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And another.

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And one more.

>>52337881
>eventually going extinct thanks to climate change
But that's exactly why we need to go to space, anon. Right now all of humanity's eggs are in one poorly maintained basket.

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And one last one for now.

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>>52338218
Thank you bro.

>>52338201

We won't for that very reason though. The future isn't permutation city or Foundation or Dune much as I wish it was. It's The Sheep Look Up

>>52337307

a bald villain with arched eyebrows and a razor sharp goatee

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>>52337307
Planet X.

Rocket-ships

Technobabble that uses actual scientific terms, but completely incorrectly. One Doc Savage tale, for example, explained that his personal airplane traveled at almost 300 miles per hour because it used "turbine". Any real scientist could have explained that "turbine" pretty much just means a rotary engine. But in a pulp adventure, it sounds like SCIENCE!

In fact, here's a table for technobabble, lifted from d20 Past.

>>52338163
>That spaceship

Freud would have a field day.

Rolled 91 (1d100)

>>52338926
In fact, I want a technobabble invention right now.

Rolled 16, 91, 19, 9, 66 = 201 (5d100)

>>52338968
Hmm, 91, so that means...I gotta roll 5d100. Wow.

>>52338980
Microwave Nanofield Transformer Robot

That sounds awesome.

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>>52337307
Spaceships that look somewhere between realistic and silly.

Traveller's aesthetic essentially

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>>52337828
>>52337666
Both!

>>52339132
That was hilarious, especially the sound that you get when Fisto fists you.

>>52337307
You need to be able to trust the government. They might be inept or helpless, or competent and managing the heroes, but they're the good guys.

Rolled 32, 43, 28, 32, 10 = 145 (5d100)

>>52338926
Hopefully this produces some nice technobabble.

Rolled 11 (1d100)

>>52339441
You forgot to roll the initial d100 to determine how many parts the name has. I'll do it for you.

>>52339532
>32, 43

So we only need the first 2 numbers you rolled. Congratulations, you're the proud owner of a Full-spectrum Charger.

Maybe some kind of Green Lantern thing?

As the rocket prepares to launch from the planet's surface, the ladder is drawn up into the hatch in the side of the rocket and clouds of white smoke billow forth from the rocket nozzles at the base.
Every time. And when the rocket lands on a planet, .esab eht ta selzzon tekcor eht morf htyof wollib exoms etihw fo sduoc dna tekcor eht fo edis eht ni hctah otni pu nward di reddal eht

(very clearly it is the same footage, run backwards)

SPAC
COMMUNISTS

>>52337307
I see images but no one mention it.

Space Babes! It is an integral part of the asthetic.

Is like not having pin up and war posters in WWII, regardless how popular it was during the time, the asthetic of WWII demands it.

>>52338163
What is going on with that spaceship?

>>52337307
0 Niggers, Albion Britain, Highly American, Mars bathing beaches post terraforming, and machines that do a lot, but look underwhelming save for the 50's aesthetic of it all.

Lack of powersex tools.

>>52337307
Radioactive everything. Because radiation makes anything better.

>radium bullets
>radium shielding
>radium radios
>radium rations

>>52337916
He said 1950s, not 1980s, you silly millennial.

>>52337307
computer gods

>>52341806
>not wanting to travel the stars in a penguin

JETPACKS

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>>52337307

A sidekick!

Commies that are easily defeatable via technological progress under the control of protestant american temperance.

>>52338139
>Le American guns ecksdee
>>>/reddit/

Guns are simply more practical. If you want ray or laser weaponry in a sci-fi setting make them more practical than guns.

>>52337307
I could so see Starfinder turning out like this.

>>52343496
Barbarella, how we love you.

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Counter culture space villains and their really hot daughters.

>>52343830
Would be a welcome change of pace from the Star Wars, Mass Effect, and 40K knock offs.

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>>52343512
Doesn't retro sci-fi usually have the Soviets surviving WAY into the future?

>>52343521
You dingus, this is clearly 70s.

>>52337307
Step 1: Go here: https://archive.org/details/galaxymagazine?&sort=date
Step 2: Read all the things (or at least some, but trust me, you'll end up wanting to read it all).
Step 3: Base campaign on what you've read.

In any case, rocket ships (probably atomic-powered) must be involved. Probably also space rangers and frontiermen, mix of high and (from our point of view) low technology (atomic-powered space ships, but all computers run on vacuum tubes, and slide rulers are commonly used), aliens that exist either to provide social commentry or act as antagonists, and at least one case of exploding baffle plate (whatever that actually is) that has to be repaired by hand by a grizzled spaceman who sacrifices his life to safe the ship.

For maximum pulpiness, take the plot of a western movie, and replace eveyr mention of "cowboy" with "space ranger", "indian" with "alien" and "six-shooter" with "ray-gun". You don't find much of this in Galaxy, though, as they actually had pretty high standards.

>>52342065
Hey shit for brains, Greys have been around a lot longer than the fuckin 80s.

>>52344795
To be defeated by the hero.

>>52346138
>Hey shit for brains, Greys have been around a lot longer than the fuckin 80s.

Could you post some images of grayyys from the 1950s?

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>>52346406
No because they're not real.

Pictured is Mekon by Dan Dare which first appeared in his comics in the 50s.

Reports of "greys" started in the early sixties with some couple that got abducted, but reports and descriptions similar to the now accepted look have been appearing since the 1930s

"we wuz grays n sheeit. learn yo origins"

>>52343406
"See that elongated stripe out there with the myriad of giant balls hanging off it? That is what my genitals look like."

And that's why Neptunians are stealing all our chicks. Bastards.

>>52343824
Looks more like a James Bond henchwench to the main villain.

>>52346406
Modern style greys are from 60s abduction stories. Grey colored aliens go back to Jules Verne though and something close to modern greys was featured in some obscure Swedish novel during 30s, but they didn't become popular until sixties.

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>>52346406
ACK ACK ACK!

>>52337307
When you get a new computer, you shake his hand, ask him where he studied and offer him a cup of coffee/a sip of whisky from your flask.

>>52346734
>drinking whisky with your computer
See, now that is how you get some weird shit in your browser history and next thing you know the Party Saucer shows up with the space cops.

>>52347606
Nah, the earlier sci-fi novels were written in the time when a computer was a job, not a thing. Spacehounds of IPC start with a ship getting a new computer; and it's someone who's job it is to calculate the trajectories, speed, velocities, etc. Also the spaceships land in big silos with immense spring and hemp buffers.

>>52346731
So those Mars Attacks aliens are actually from 50s? I thought Burton (or someone else involved with movie) designed them himself.

>>52347800
It's quite sad how many autists lost their only job with birth of electronic computer.

>>52347813
Yep, they were trading cards first. Pretty gruesome and controversial for the time.

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>>52347813
>So those Mars Attacks aliens are actually from 50s? I thought Burton (or someone else involved with movie) designed them himself.

I don't have a reaction image on this computer strong enough to express what I'm feeling, so please accept this paltry substitute. Pretend they're laughing at you.

>>52337881
>eventually going extinct thanks to climate change
At the current rate, especially considering the anti climate change actions we've taken so far, humanity will have stupid itself to death long before the climate becomes unsuitable for humans.
I mean, with the current bellcurve model, and al the actions we've taken so far, if we keep on at the current rate we'll only increase by 1 degree Celcius in terms of global average within the next 100 years. Meanwhile, Oil will run out within the next 50 years and that's also when we expect to hit the Carrying capacity.

Trust me, while Climate Change is a real thing, its not as insanely world ending as the media would have you believe. IF anything all we've done so far is hasten the natural heating interval by around 200 years. Sure, its currently warmer currently than it has ever been since Homo sapiens have been on the planet, but to be fair the global trend has been that way since the glaciation

>>52347982
>we'll only increase by 1 degree Celcius in terms of global average within the next 100 years
Yeah, who needs insects anyway?

>>52348006
t. Spider internet defense force

>>52337307
Nuclear reactors that are perfectly safe despite the blue glow.
Everyone is accepting of other species, but not women or black people.
Sleek rocket ships that land on planets and moons.
Little green men with antennae and big heads.
Miniskirts, bare legs, and not just on the women.
Fancy accents and correct english; everyone on the bridge is an officer and upper-class. At least one RP-speaking british guy somewhere.
Anyone who actually works for a living has a thick regional accent. Bonus points for having a brummie accent.
Knobs and dials and switches everywhere.

>>52348006
While that is a valid problem with climate change, and an important issue, the main subject was anon taking about human extinct, not effects on insect populations.

Further, other insects will do much better, especially Mountain Pine Beatle and the like. Really, Reptiles are at bigger threat from climate change than most insects

The main issue with climate change isn't the temperature itself however. It's the fact that doing so raises the bell curve on weather disturbance, thus altering the frequency and intensity of of major weather events, such as desert flooding, short duration blizzards, and potentially a she but more erratic or intense drought interval.

Also, increased wildland fire interval, bit given hownnuch we've repressed the natural fire regime over the past 100+ years, that could probably be a good thing

But again, original anon was talking about humans, and my post was meant to correct his misconceptions. This conversation we've had meanwhile is off topic to that original statement

>>52348157
>Knobs and dials and switches everywhere.
Why can't we have more of this?
Touch pads were a mistake

>>52348161
>While that is a valid problem with climate change, and an important issue, the main subject was anon taking about human extinct, not effects on insect populations.

How well do you think our agriculture-based society will fare when you take away the agriculture part

>>52347800
>not showing the spirit of camaraderie by pouring whiskey in the feeder tray of the magnetic tape relay Electron Abacus whose mighty bulk takes up almost three-quarters of the rocket and can perform an astounding half dozen basic arithmetic solutions every day! But only within seven digits because the screen isn't big enough for more.

Seriously though you must have been reading some shit science fiction, anon, because you have a very narrow view of 50s futuristic scifi. Sure there is usually still a technician operating the computer but that isn't the same as the person being the computer. Not that that is entirely impossible, yes some stories do have gifted Astrogators who can pilot ships through FTL. But that hardly means computers didn't still exist. Hell, sometimes machines just spontaneously developed life when they got too complex, then you see some serious shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQAjJ2GfKLA

>>52348182
I recommend listening to some glorious old time radio programs for ideas. X-Minus One and Dimensions X are enjoyable and often adapt scifi stories. Some fun stuff and sometimes, yes, the computers can be quite pesky:

X-Minus One episode titled Lifeboat Mutiny which aired 9-11-1956: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbaVEoOBp30

>>52348178
Fairly well considering Corn is a C4 plant, and that we've developed the whole industry completely beyond reasonable to the point it's not even agriculture anymore.

Al climate change will do is line the pockets of Bayer and Monsanto, and turn them into full-fledged shadowrun megacorps.

As for livestock, most of the grazeland is again primarily warm-season C4 grasses, which have actually been doing better in recent years due to improvements in tableland management practices, and actual implementation of historical fire disturbance and grazing rotation.
Further, with the push to better enforce sustainable stocking rates on public lands, as well and the push by the scientific community to privatize some rangelands, and better education on proper stocking and sustainable ranching practice for the next generation of ranchers and rangeland managers, things are actually looking up for the livestock industry.

Now, if only Brazil would stop destroying their own country on unsustainable practice, and push for a market of ranched capybara meat to exist, then things will really start to improve

Again, I never said you were wrong, just a tad misinformed on the specifics of the situation. No need to treat me like I'm a retard climate change denier

Universe, a story adapted from Heinlein. A colony ship stranded in space where the survivors think the ship itself is their entire ...universe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yn4769VzmE

Almost Human. When a robot learns the most horrible feeling of them all: love.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADOTiAW0jnA

The Castaways. A military test for a new super bomb involves displacing the natives of the island testsite, however not is all as it appears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuTxuE2JeLA

The Man in the Moon. The Bureau of Missing Persons receives a missing persons report from the moon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEhIC013Cq8

Knock. The last man on the Earth hears a knock on the door...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygAPcQ9pkic

Colony. Adapted from a story by Philip K. Dick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgmQI4zqN2s

The Roads Must Roll. Adapted from Heinlein. What happens in a future where roads that function like giant conveyor belts become the norm instead of automobiles?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAlagNId3fw

Marionettes, Inc. Man buys his own robot duplicate to give him some time off from his nagging wife.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hQSkHjhsxM

And much much more.

>>52348531
Youtube has a ton of programs, true, but a good source of entire collections for download is archive.org where you can find an incredible volume of old time radio content.

And if anyone is on the lookout for something a bit more apocalyptic, perhaps in the Fallout/Wasteland sense, you might find inspiration in the old program The Fifth Horseman, an 8 part series of otherwise disconnected stories that nevertheless progress towards the outbreak of atomic war and the aftermath.

https://archive.org/details/The_Fifth_Horseman

I'd also recommend Civil Defense with Orson Welles, narrated by Welles and telling the tale of two cities in the atomic age.

https://archive.org/details/otr_civildefensewithorsonwelles

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>>52346567
>some obscure Swedish novel
Unknown Universe or something, I think.

This is an illustration from it.

>>52337307
An important element is aliens in our own solar system. Martians, Venusians, hell, Plutonians. Doesn't matter how improbable or impossible they are with our current understanding of these worlds, these are staples of 50s scifi.

>>52348531
What the hell, have some classic aliens.
The Parade. June 1st is Martian Day!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28JO36s0xTU

The Embassy. A bemused private detective is hired to find the secret Martian Embassy on Earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8F8hq96YlI

Mars is Heaven. A classic. 'nuf said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2F3NWfIKd4

In fact much of Bradbury's Martian Chronicles was adapted for radio. But no sense spamming the thread with anymore links.

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>>52343512
How about radioactive undead Commies?

what would be a good system for this type of thing?

>>52339132
THICC

>>52338201
Exactly. Pretty high hopes for space-x.
Still upset about Obama defunding NASA. Doesn't look like it's getting any more funding any time soon.

>>52348176
Because dealing with too much at once causes confusion in stressful situations, and if a computer can do the job of the flight engineer, that cuts crew expenses by a third"

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>>52348869
That fucking skeleton
I legit had nightmares of that fuck when I was a child, and couldn't finish watching that episode.

>>52338109
>Every planet has earth-like gravity and atmosphere. EVERY SINGLE ONE.
This. Maybe not gravity, but definitely atmosphere.
Even the barren ones without any discernible life.

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>>52337307
Space feudalism

>>52348352
Pretty much this. We don't even have to worry about over population to be honest. With vertical farming, the amount of food we can produce is for all practical purposes limitless.

You might see food prices rise to the point where large sections of the population die, but that's not a danger to human existence.

>>52349081
This. Can't have space princesses without space feudalism.

>>52349157
Tell that to George Lucas with his elected child monarchs who only rule until their term is up. Does it even count as a constitutional monarchy (since we know they have a constitution on Naboo) or misappropriation of terms?

>>52349140
>vertical farming
That's just a meme. No amount of hydroponics and city farms will replicate properly grown food.

Also, the issue is not 'how will we feed the people', because we're growing way more food than we need to right now, it's just an issue of distribution. Kill the african warlords, and the children won't starve.
Otherwise, the issue is 'where will all these people live' and 'where will all these people work'. Right now, first-world countries are only undergoing population growth due to immigration from poorer countries. Birthrates are dropping, because your child will be competing with you and your parents for jobs and housing, while draining your resources at the same time.
If you're a subsistence farmer, kids will help you in your old age, and work FOR FREE while they grow, and until they've been married off. Your sons get you a cut of the dowry and increased social standing, and your daughters serve to build your own little empire of daughters and granddaughters.

>>52349294
Elective monarchy isn't really particularly unusual. Sweden used to have elective monarchy untill Guataf Wasa reformed the system to match central European monarchies (and incidentally ensure his bloodline would remain as the rulers).
The way it work, though, wasn't really like modern elective goverment. When a king died, a new king would be elected among the "nobility" (technically, at this point in history Sweden didn't have nobility in the same sense central European monarchies did, but wealthy landowners responsible of governing provinces of the realm is pretty close to the same concept in practice). The king would then rule untill his death, at which point a new king would be elected. I believe similar system has also been in place in other Scandinavian countries.

>>52347982
>if we keep on at the current rate we'll only increase by 1 degree Celcius
Pretty sure we're at 1.5 minimum and probably 2. That should be enough to fuck a lot of coastline (also the Netherlands, but that's a given). But yeah, climate change isn't going to kill us all any time soon.

>>52349455
>probably 2.
The last hundred years ofnburning huge amounts coal and having almost no environmental protection raised it only by 1.8

Considering how much better we are now at controlling emissions now, I doubt we'll get anywhere near two by the next 100 year interval

>>52349408
>a new king would be elected among the "nobility"
Among and BY the nobility, I would dare to guess.
I'm pretty sure Naboo has queens being elected by the people for a few years terms, which I would arguee is closer to democracy. A fucked up one because teen president/queen but still.
Space princesses aren't there to make sense I guess, but I admit I ultimately got annoyed at the number of space royalties SW seemed to get.

>>52349537
Controlling CO2 emissions is fucking hard. You can not stop the formation of CO2, because most of the energy of the combustion comes from its formation. This means you have to capture it from the flue gas. Using current technology the capture process consumes ~30% of the total energy released in combustion. It is unlikely this kind of technology will be widely adopted without major improvements. And if the technology gets adopted you run into the question of what to do with all that CO2. You need to find some place to sequester it in a safe but cost efficient manner.

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>>52349064
That episode was pure nightmare fuel back then.

>>52349455
It's just going to collapse countries and cause a massive refugee crisis the likes of which civilization has never seen.

Not an extinction level even, but still bad.

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>>52348182
>1950s sci-fi.

Nah, I read the true old school. 1940s and earlier.

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>>52351609
I fear the earlier comment about the narrow scope of your exposure to fiction still stands.

>Fears of machines evolving until they replace people appeared as early as "The Book of the Machines" in Samuel Butler's 1872 novel Erewhon and soon became commonplace. Early 20th-century examples include: Michael Williams' "The Mind Machine" (1919), in which living computers take over the cities but eventually disintegrate; Edmond Hamilton's "The Metal Giants" (1926) featuring an atom-powered metal brain that constructs a rampaging army of 300-foot-tall robots; S. Fowler Wright's "Automata" (1929), in which machines take over all human activities and eventually eliminate our species; and "The Brain" (1930), a play by Lionel Britton about an enormous mechanical brain that ends up as the only form of intelligence left on a doomed Earth fifty million years hence.

>By the 1930s, fiction about human overdependence on computers or the replacement of humans by intelligent machines was quite commonplace. Influential science-fiction editor John W. Campbell wrote several stories on this theme, including "The Last Evolution" (1932), "Twilight" (1934), and "The Machine" (1935). A classic story in this vein is Jack Williamson's "With Folded Hands" (1947).

http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~hbf/compulit.htm

I'd also recommend R.U.R. written by Karel Capek in the 1920s, which actually gave us the term robot. Still the robots of his play were not electronic but rather biosynthetic organisms. Frankly I'd allow it since regardless of lack of metal and data tapes they are still artificial intelligences created by humanity to humanity's ultimate detriment.

>>52351963
Different anon here. Thank you for those recommendations.

>>52352409
I need to check those John W. Campbell stories. I loved Who Goes There? which gave us The Thing.

God I'd love to run a game with The Thing as a setting.

>>52352908
Who goes there? Is one of my favorite sci-fi novellas from that time period. When I found out it was published around the same time as At the Mountains of Madness, I had to read it.

>>52339388
r...rrrr..rrrrr.RRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>52352908
The D20 Modern Menace Manual had rules for the Thing. I think they called it the Star Spawn.

>>52352979
Sweet! I'll check it out, thanks!

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>>52337307

>In a 1950s vision of the future of space

Did you say Starblazer Adventures?

>>52337307
Aliens that look exactly like humans

>>52346505
its knees look like fucking dicks dude

>>52353218
Who is to say they aren't his reproductive equipment.

>>52337669
>implying sapient species can coexist st all

>>52353137
That's not exactly a dynamic uncommon to modern scifi.

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What is a good system that uses this 1950's science setting? Also, is it possible to make a gritty scenario?


Does it counts as Sword & Planet?

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>>52353665

Saging because of double posting.

When I mean Gritty, it is like the 1950's future but failed.

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>>52353713
I like the Ubiquity system, and they have a couple of Mars Sourcebooks out now.

>>52348531
>Universe, a story adapted from Heinlein. A colony ship stranded in space where the survivors think the ship itself is their entire ...universe.

I AM FUCKING MAD THIS DICK HEINLEIN STOLE MY TALE BEFORE I WAS EVEN BORN

>>52353815
He's not Dick, he's Bob.

Bob Heinlein, anon.

I'm on my phone, so excuse the brevity of my post

Did I miss it, or does this thread lack food pills/ nutrient paste comments?

>>52343269
THANK YOU

>>52353815
If you want some form of compensation read Druuna and prepare your pants for a wild ride. NSFW in the weirdest ways.

http://www.comicextra.com/druuna/chapter-1

>>52345166
>Magnificent Seven (itself a rehash of Seven Samurai) rehashed as pulp sci- fi.

I cannot get more erect and I have no idea why.

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>>52354785

>>52349032

Trump has increased NASA's funding, so the space program isn't completely dead.

>>52337307

An 18 inch log-log decitrig slide rule. I can't fucking believe that nobody has thought of this yet. You can't exactly haul around a programmable computer the size of an icebox in your spacesuit, now can you?

Maybe a 72 inch deluxe model for navigation in the control room with verniers for the extra precision necessary for navigation.

A portable microfilm reader. This way you can have a whole library of quick reference information not much bigger than a Gideon Bible.

Semaphore flags as a backup in case your radio overheats or burns out a tube.

A few days of ration pills.

A specimen box for collecting samples. About the size of a lady's hatbox.

A good pipe and some tobacco. Spaceship air is dry and stale, and planets have all kinds of atmospheric impurities, so you'll need something to ease respiration.

A flask of good whiskey. Also useful as trade goods with any natives you encounter.

Some cold cream and a thick pair of socks. There's a trick you can do with this so you won't get trenchfoot even if you have to wear your spacesuit for several weeks.

>>52355123
>>52349032
That's actually wrong, fwiw. Not wanting to get political, just pointing out that the proposed budget cuts 400 million from NASA, taking them from 19.5B (from the last President's budget) to 19.1B. Back at the start of the decade the US was spending a billion more on air conditioning in Iraq and Afghanistan. There is at least support for future missions to Mars which is slated for sometime in the 2030s. Current plans to cut NASA's satellite operations that focus on terrestrial concerns like climate change but also provide additional things like, oh, weather and even wildfire tracking among other side benefits.

I love scifi, reading it, listening to old programs like the ones already posted in the thread, and it never fails to make me both smile and more than a little melancholy how often writers envisioned us with bases on the moon, colonies on Mars, or nuclear propelled manned spacecraft by the 1990s or so. Nobody knew we'd just get to the moon, plant a flag, collect some rocks, and then say, "Well that was fun, let's flip off the Ruskies from here and then never bother with space again." Okay, not entirely true but close enough.

>>52352908
Here's Campbell's original short story Who Goes There?:

http://www.outpost31.com/books/who.txt

It's interesting, especially in relation to this thread, that the 1951 movie The Thing from Another World actually made the alien so much tamer. It might as well have been a robot clunking around beating people up. Yet by comparison John Carpenter's version is so much fucking worse even than Campbell's. It's combat forms are certainly superior, as well as the quickness of its transformations, and there is no way in hell you'd want to tackle one of Carpenter's Things with a damn melee weapon. Just the flying blood and viscera alone, each cell an independently functioning Thing on its own, would be nightmarish to even think about.

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>>52337881
>climate change
>realism

pick one

>>52337307
Most importantly, you need a communist detector.

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FULLY AUTOMATED LUXURY GAY SPACE COMMUNISM

>>52347982
http://www.sciencealert.com/the-ozone-hole-is-finally-closing-up

>>52345166
>You don't find much of this in Galaxy, though, as they actually had pretty high standards.

You cheeky bastard, I see what you did there.

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>>52343512
But that's exactly what happened in our timeline.

>>52346540
This was more for the buttons and knobs and dials then the girl.

>>52361293
Hey man, you ain't hearing me complaining either way.

>>52348157
>Nuclear reactors that are perfectly safe despite the blue glow.
Well... they are. Water is actually pretty good shielding material. Just don't jump into the water.

>>52361899
Look at this asshole who doesn't want superpowers!

>>52362106
There are no superpowers by radioactive mutation in 1950s space adventures, silly.

>>52361899
They're only 'safe' on land because of the shielding. Dense shielding, which is heavy.
For a spacecraft, mass is the enemy. So you have the nuclear engine wayyyy out on a boom, with a minimal shield so the radiation JUST misses the crewed area.
But in the 1950s, nuclear was good and okay and safe, and it was perfectly acceptable to have a small nuclear reactor in the kitchen to heat food.

>>52362310
The hell there wasn't. The poor public understanding of exactly how radiation worked lead to a number of rather fanciful examples of human exposure doing strange things. Not just humans either, there are a plethora of monster movies based on super giant critters thanks to atomic exposure. Hell anon, Godzilla flicks were launched at this time.

One of my favorite stories isn't space, nor is it from the 50s, it's actually from '48. An episode of The Shadow titled The Man who was Death, about a scientist exposed to massive amounts of radiation during an experiment who becomes The Burning Man, a radium powered terror who can kill just by standing close to people and who is, somehow, immune to bullets. (The pulp stories feature a serial adventure where a scientist creates a Z-Ray Machine, far more powerful than a mere X-Ray, which uses specially harnessed atomic rays to fortify the human body. Gangsters naturally steal it because it can heal their wounds in seconds).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7CB1WEjH4o

Also from 1945 the Superman radio program had an adventure when Nazi super science creates The Atom Man via harnessing the atomic power of Kryptonite which was far more powerful than normal Earthly radioactive materials. He could fire bolts of atomic power that could disintegrate anything it touched and render Superman powerless. Comic books of course have their own love of atomic induced powers, though noted figures like the Fantastic Four would arrive in 1961 with The Hulk a year later.

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Can you make horror even with these aesthethics?

>>52348337
>>52348531
Oh hell, these are nice and all but people should expose themselves to some REAL 50s space adventures, the kind you listen to while enjoying a heaping bowl of Rice Chex or Wheat Chex! Or maybe some delicious Kellogg's Pep for that real get up and go! Be sure to ask your mom first!

Spaaaaace Patrol!
https://archive.org/details/53040427TheVanishingLake

Tom Corbett, Space Cadet
https://archive.org/details/SpaceCadet2

Or maybe you'd like some Buck Rogers!
https://archive.org/details/BuckRogersInThe25thCentury

Smokin' rockets, what's wrong? Can't handle the audio dramas? Your weak imagination needs something visual to latch onto? Well how about Tom Corbett on the televisor scope!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTd0hkzcDjE

And maybe you'd like some Flash Gordon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbX62HoKbz8&list=PLvER7QPVtoJz23KtOkpxoicOnO-xPW8MN

>>52362700
The bulk of it was more about turning you into a horrible monster rather than a dude with superpowers, so that's not something you would want to happen to you.

>>52362860
>The bulk of it
So you're conceding some of it gives superpowers? I'll take those odds! Let me put on ze goggles first, they do everything.

>>52337307
Hypnosis, atleast if you follow Heinlein's route.

>>52362971
I prefer classic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOPFeNqj7UI

Oh and by the way, anon, YOU'RE A CHICKEN!

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>>52337751
That was a spraygun, not a raygun.

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America, fuck yeah!

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Last one for a while, have to get ready for my writing group.
If the thread is still around later, I'll add some more.

>>52363098
Centuries ago hot alien babes taught the Egyptians everything they needed to know - about sexy fashion! Now in the modern era of the amazing 60s humanity comes to them to teach them the art of looking fly and pimping.

>>52349408
>I believe similar system has also been in place in other Scandinavian countries.
Denmark was, but during pre-12/13th part of the union the fact that the Norway wasn't basically forced the Danish nobles to elect the heir or risk civil war.

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>>52364091
End of the day you needed something simple and could convincingly be worn by a dude. Same reason they tended to use simple tubes for the arms.

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Some more Scooby stuff.

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>>52365403
Hey! Who turned out the lights?

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>>52365418
I ran a one shot horror game inspired by this episode of Scooby Doo, the movie Lifeforce, and some Lovecraft.

>>52365493
>I ran a one shot horror game inspired by this episode of Scooby Doo, the movie Lifeforce, and some Lovecraft.

Please tell. Sounds fan-diddly-fucking-tastic.

>>52337307

-Male aliens are hideous monsters (rubber suits), female aliens are just sexy human females with brightly coloured skin and antennae.
-The villain is an OTT space emperor with an evil gotie and a high collared cloak.
-Lead male MC is an all american beefcake who all the ladies swoon over and always manages to get his shirt torn on all away missions.
-You can survive just fine in space for a while just by holding your breath

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Charlie is still one of my favorite "villains".

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>>52365575
>it is the year 2030 or something.
>a massive object enters the solar system.
>turns out to be a derelict alien spaceship.
>players are a scientific and military team sent to investigate.

>the inside if the ship is messed up. It is a hodgepodge of technologies, including past, present, and future earth tech.
>one of the characters was going to find tech they were going to patent and manufacture in tens years time. The tech in question having their name on it.
>they come across bodies of other astronauts, again from other eras, and in varying degrees of decomposition.
>the dead Soviet Cosmonaut is still warm.
>when the players comes across their own bodies, it looks like they had been their for centuries.

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>>52366144
Continued

>one of the players starts messing around with the bridges main computer terminal.
>he notices some gunk oozing out of the equipment. So he rips out some panels and discovers the circuitry has been replaced by a dark green fungus.
>the stuff starts to quiver and trill, so he bugs the fuck out of there.
>at this point the characters are trying to leave, but way back has shifted.
>they end up in a vast room, with the ceiling matching the floor down the smallest detail. When they get halfway across they see themselves running the opposite direction across the ceiling.
>when their other "selves" see them, they gesture for the players to run the other way.

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>>52366286
It was at this point that the game ended due to conflicting schedules. The ship was essentially "haunted". Time and space had no meaning within the ship. The wreck itself was semi sentient, and malicious.

>>52366431
Oh, and the system used was Call of Cthulhu. Lots of san checks for everyone.

>>52366287
So saucers... Are they a bad guy thing while good guys get rocketships? Or can anyone have either?

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>>52368557
They're really more of an alien thing.

the main cast from lost in space used a saucer built on earth and shot to the stars.
The aliens that took the two earth people to help them out on their planet in "This Island Earth" used a saucer.

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60's I know but damn do I love me some Gerry Anderson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CvURidpkCY

>>52369650
You know not of what you speak! Man's greatest endeavors have involved glorious saucers of flying!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diRx8nRk6e0

And don't call me Shirley!

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>>52369697
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8PR3QIwXHs
fuckit if it takes 9 minutes to assemble and launch , the Zero-X was cool.

>>52369697
Man I loved UFO when I was little.

SkyDiver will forever be the coolest motherfucking design ever.

>>52363213
Not to mention the value of a good smoke.

>>52369844
Fun fact: the long technoporn sequences of launching and combining were what directly inspired robot anime in Japan.

Rolled 64 (1d100)

>>52338926
c'mon, anon needs a new pair of laser shoes!

Rolled 44, 78, 55, 13, 100 = 290 (5d100)

>>52338926
>>52371034
alright!

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>>52371049
>Dark Matter Spectrum Emitter Auto-Construct
I have no idea what the fuck that would be!

>>52369844
Still takes less time than that fucking vehicle based Voltron.

>>52371088
You create cars out of dark matter. Enjoy!

>>52337307
There has to be some kind of space police or space patrol sorta deal, or at least some kind of space cowboys. That much I know.

>>52363166
Gotta kick those space commies off good ol' American Regolith and back to their damned Red Planet!

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>>52370140
The UFO opening with the "white text on black background" explaining the previous image thing was lifted right into evangelion's opening. And yeah, definitely all the sliding, moving, launching, and general overly complicated getting from point A to point B stuff was a huge inspiration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNhk_-v0SMs
i got my brothers aTracey Island playset from the new series. That's neither here nor there, just expressing esteem for Thunderbirds.

>>52338926
>mfw the 89-100 lets you make a microwave microwave [whatever]
Topkek

>>52349081
Battletech?

>>52371367
For 50s sci-fi i think it's more like a Human explorer gets captured and/or crash lands on some planet and has to fuck over an entire society of corrupt nobles and treacherous viziers in order to get home and/or snag a space princess.

Battletech's pretty good though.

>>52371298
It goes beyond Anno loving tokusatsu though and making a dark Ultraman meets UFO series. The whole reason why sci-fi anime and live action special effects show began was because the market in Japan for Gerry Anderson style shows was huge but there was nothing new being made. So people began to make their own, to leech off the popularity and to provide new material.

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>>52362860
> Implying radioactivity isn't good for your health
> Implying you shouldn't drink water through an uranium filter
> Six cups of radioactive water a day recommended!

>Also available: radium wool for clothes and thorium crème for your skin!

>>52355136

This post made me noticeably more ruggedly individualistic.

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>>52374298
I prefer Captain Future myself. He's also a wizard. Of science.

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>ctrl F
>1 result Flash Gordan

With Hollywood rebooting every franchise every, you know it's coming to a screen near you soon

>>52377431
>I'm going to wield this woman to a rocket and shoot her at the moon
>That'll show Captain Future

>>52337307

How has no one pointed out the need for skin tight body suits?

>>52377431
>Captain Future
Cops and robbers in outer space, with a Doc Savage clone. It is an entertaining pulp.

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>>52379030
Screwing with hot chicks is the only reason to become a super scifi villain, yo. Just as getting to screw the hot chicks is the dream of every hero.

I mean sadly neither gets to actually seal the deal with said hot chick, but it's the journey, not the destination.

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So what systems do folks favor for retro science fiction games? I gravitate towards rules lite systems. Fate, Savage Worlds, etc. There are harder science fiction games out there, but if I am running a cinematic game that plays fast and loose, what is the point of using a more complicated system?

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>>52379265
Bit larger there.

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Damn robots always after our wimmin.

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>>52379479
Not 50s space but definitely sharing some of the same flavors.

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>>52379534
I have a bunch of these kicking around. Pulpgen dot com has a pretty substantial collection of scanned pulp magazines.

>>52355136

>log log decitrig

Now I need to get a slide rule so I know what the hell this means.

>>52337307
Lost races, super technology, and IRONY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwqeA2XgQcc

Don't want to listen for the Twilight Zone twist? The Lost Race are super advanced apelike aliens who destroyed themselves

The Earth empire needs conscripts but get a bunch of hicks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzLmbAX7QSU

Unruly space frontiersmen and the alien lawmen who hunt them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGW68HKHsww

The Outer Limit not to be confused with Outer Limits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pew6MS4BJ3Y

First Contact with aliens leaves you too scared to ever return home again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KyHkeiNiwk

>>52378925

With how bad many remakes are, I really hope the let a jewel made ages ago shine on it's own rather than taking it out and smearing it with shit today.

>>52382455
>yfw Flash is a brown kike
>yfw Ming is a pale Englishman
>yfw Aura is a proud Black princess of color
can't wake up

>>52382380
Some of my personal favorites

A Pail of Air - the Earth has flown off into space and follows the story of some of the unlikely survivors of this tragedy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8g-xepyShY

How-2 - A man builds a robot who can build other robots, leading to a wondrous golden age in his life that he regrets immensely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaQnUmaivSU

If You Was A Moklin - Humanity discovers a race of creatures whose ability to biologically mimic within generations leads to a rather predictable crisis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaJwYM4Cm5M

Martian Sam - nobody plays baseball like a Martian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbTUqM5l6oo

Volpla - A man tries to execute the largest prank of all and not only winds up the butt of his own joke but starting the first Venus colony.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8ciJzmplgg
And when they found out venus was all high winds and corrosive atmosphere I guess the joke was on the Volpla too.

Junkyard - One of my favorites. Space explorers discover that forgetfulness isn't a natural process but the result of an ancient alien machine that devours intelligence. Things go from bad to worse when proximity to the device soon leaves them unable to remember how to work their ship and their only salvation may be a man too drunk to know what the hell he's doing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sya1djIXDow

>>52382713
>pale Englishman
Now now, I don't think Max von Sydow wants to reprise the role. Besides, SciFi, whoops, I mean Syfy did their own series that crashed and burned a little while ago.

>>52382779

>Max
>English

He's a Swede anon.

>>52383121
>thinking there is any difference anymore
They escaped the EU too late, anon. Too late.

>>52382380
>>52382749
Nice.

>>52382380
>First Contact
Human ship meets aliens and not knowing what the other beings are truly like, no way to be sure they are honest and sincere, and too scared to return back to Earth for fear the aliens will follow them and turn out to be conquerers the humans never know if they can dare return home ever again.

That is such a fucked up scenario I would love to run it just to see how my players solve it, or at least try.

>>52382713
So long as they play that Queen song I care not.

>>52387894
Fuck yeah!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-vU152-XAE

>>52387968
This reminds me of something... Something that might also fit the ascetic we're looking for here a little.

>>52388061
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7_Od9CmTu0
I meant to include this link.

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>>52388075
Might be a bit too early for giant robos. 50s was still more focused on killer robots than piloted mecha, though not unheard of. One of the above comments had something about 300 foot tall killer robots, at least.

Honestly though I wouldn't complain.

>>52388244
The designs fit and that most of the Bigs were piloted was a mystery in universe to those not in the know.

>>52388350
I don't know, Big O always felt more like it had 70s aesthetic. Maybe 60s.

It's not a huge deal to me either way.

>>52344477
>Mass Effect
Mass Effect is basically Retro Sci-Fi setting, just one that's a bit more grounded in some respects and slightly more modern in it's overall aesthetics

>>52388400
No, it was art deco all the way; 1920s, 30s.

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>>52388561
Dude, this is not a car from the 20s or 30s.

>>52388561
A lot of Big O is an homage to film noir, so think 1940s.

>>52388638
The car looks like it's from the Sixties. Honestly Paradigm City is a bit of a hodgepodge, which makes sense given the true nature of the place.

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>>52374298
I really need to read the old Gold Key Solar stuff someday, have only read some of the Valiant 80's & 90's stuff with him

>>52377431
if we're talking Science Wizards, need to bring up Stardust The Super Wizard

>>52379398
at the moment the two most likely systems I'd use for something like this would be either Gamma World 7E(the one that uses D&D 4E's mechanics) or modifying and refluffing Microlite 74(with some stuff added in from Fantastic Heroes & Witchery and ACKS among other sources)

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>>52389107
>>52379398

If you want to go D20 then just go with Far Trek with a bit of re-fluffing.

For non-D20 I'd recommend Cosmic Patrol or Rocket Age, both of which are specifically designed for retro sci-fi, or Main Sequence, which is a Warrior Rogue Mage hack that's simple and works very well.

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>>52389107
Stardust was just Silver Age Supes.

>>52389443
lol! What age are we in now? The dark ages? The wood ages, like wood 4 from league of legends?

>>52337751
Last time I saw a raygun in modern SF was in the book The Destructives. A group was using repeated light patterns to burn out particular pathways in the brain so that people could basically be visually programmed. Anyone with the brain damage cause by these light patterns could be completely incapacitated by the groups goons who have rayguns that flash a pattern that essentially causes seizures in the conditioned.

>>52369844
>had my first sexual encounter because of how long this scene was

Thank you, Zero-X

>>52343369
No noise in space, right?

>>52361899
>Just don't jump into the water.
I'd just post the third image, but for some reason the transparency comes out black?
https://what-if.xkcd.com/29/

>>52389526
According to DC, the Modern Ages.

Comic Book "ages" are so weird, because they all have different starting points, but pretend that they overlap.

DC's Silver Age starts in Sept 1956 and ends with the first serious Batman comic in the 70s

Marvel's Silver Age starts with the first Fantastic Four comic in Nov 1861 and ends with the death of Gwen Stacy in 1973.

>>52389821
1861? Holy shit

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>>52363213
>Centuries ago hot alien babes taught the Egyptians everything they needed to know - about sexy fashion!
Egyptians were pretty much always nude. But their rich people sometimes wore clothing as decoration.

>>52389743
In a near vaccum no, he is on a planetary body though so there might be an atmosphere and thus sonic transmission vectors. Even if there isn't though, you'd think he would notice the new shadow moving up on his spacecraft.

>>52389969
If the lower left corner is anything to go by, the light source is towards the upper right.
Those aren't shadows, those are discolorations along the sand/paint/etc.

A square jaw

>>52338177
That's Captain Future

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>>52389107
>>52389249
I spotted this game on amazon. D&D old school rules for science fiction. There is an art free pdf for free on drivethru. Anyone have experience playing it?

Breasty alien babes

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>>52338177

>>52382779
It's not just the actor, villian shouldn't have Asian name and aesthetic, he should be a proper White man those days.

>>52394453
From what I understand that's what Syfy did with him. Rather than yellow peril wizard he was some kind of military dictator practically worshipped by his people.

I could be misremembering because I don't remember watching any of it.

>>52338177
>>52377431
Why is that robot always shooting weird shit? If not from his eyes then from his sex wand.

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>>52399305
Because we all know humans don't shoot weird shit from their sex wand

Lots of chrome plating, and impractical buildings that might be some disc with rooms on what's essentially a long pole.

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>>52399405
We shoot perfectly reasonable stuff from our sex wands I'll have you know, you pervbot. How did you even get past the captcha!?

Thread still alive? Okay. How about one more radio drama, the story of an ill-fated voyage where the ship explodes in space leaving the survivors floating away from each other, each of them helpless but with their own story to share.

Kaleidoscope: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlHMBQ16G2o

>>52392535
New to me. Sorry.

>>52402789
Maybe one of the Fallout games? Already rules for robots, energy weapons, etc.

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>>52404800

>>52337806
Who gives a shit. Orion's Gate or however the fuck you call it is all about muh reelism, and nobody outside that specific autistic circle jerk gives a shit about it.

>>52405690
>muh reelism
Got to agree. If we're talking about a Fifties version of the future - iiiin spaaaaace - then realism is the least of our problems. At least 90% of it is going to be rule of cool.

>>52343369
>When you land on the bad planet to change flux capacitor

>>52404800
Read 'em. Didn't like 'em. Even discounting personal tastes, though, I don't think it would capture that retro sci-fi feel very well.

>>52405804
B-but it's based on GURPS! The answer to Life the Universe and Everything!

>>52363112

The way she described it was vague so I assumed it was an energy weapon. I mean what else could it be?

>>52406023
I... I hang my head in shame. Truly I am the worst scum imaginable.

>>52392535
DL'd it. Took a look. Saw that it uses classes and noped right the fuck out.

>>52409163
I have seen that movie. It was really weird. Though I did like the "earth sex" scene. It's basically two people holding rings up to each other and making funny faces.

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>>52409163
I was wondering when Barbarella was going to show.

>>52409511
The part with the "sexecutioner" device showed up in a anime. Not sure which one though.