>You are a king. >A dragon asks if he can marry your daughter.

>>52310767
Of course.

Securing an alliance with an immortal fire breathing monster>Securing an alliance with Duke Charles the Flamboyant.

>>52310767
Depends, what does the dragon have to offer, besides itself? Its hoard? Territorial influence? Ancient knowledge? Besides, what kind of dragon is it anyway?

>>52310767
"I hate to ask, Glauccongaron the Black...in fact given that it will involve my daughter I really, really hate asking this...but I'm going to have to inquire as to the...logistics...of your attempts to secure an heir for the kingdom. If you know what I mean. Please tell me you know what I mean. Please tell me you're one of those dragons that can shape-shift into human form, or at least human size."

>>52310767
What >>52310827 said, show me what he brings to the table, I mean DRAGON is already a big plus but I'd like to make an informed decision

>>52310878
This more than anything.
The survival of the kingdom means nothing unless my bloodline can inherit it

>>52310767
Sure if he can find a woman that wants to have sexy with me.

>>52310827
>>52310887
Only him and his knowledge.

>>52310878
He can.

>>52310767
Only if it's in a setting where they can actually procreate with humans.

And even then, only the second or third daughter.

The eldest is currently on an Adventure with her fiancé, an envoy of the Elven kingdom and an envoy of the Dwarven clans to prove her worth as a successor and ensure continued close ties with our neighbors.

>>52310944
And... what knowledge is that? And what does he keep for himself? I mean, I'm pretty sure he has a hoard, because a dragon without a hoard is just an oversized fire-breathing lizard.

>>52310767
I'd probably ask my daughter about what she wants. If they really love each other then sure go for it.

>>52310944
So a poor dragon wants to marry into human nobility?

That's suspicious. Either he isn't a very good dragon (no hoard or minions) or he has a severe human fetish.

Do I have other children? Will he destroy the kingdom if I refuse?

A half dragon heir sounds good but this is seriously fishy.

>>52310944
But WILL he?

>>52310767
You're at GameStop and this dragon walks by and asks for your daughters hand in marriage. What do you do?

>>52310878
>>52310916

It's a daughter, not a son. It means jack shit for the bloodline. You DON'T want the dragon to be able to give you an "heir". If the marriage can give you an alliance with a dragon without half-dragon faggots trying to steal the throne from your sons and grandsons (the ones with your surname) all the better.

>>52311018
This too, but only after also sorting out >>52310878

>>52310944
>He can.

Oh, neat. Well, then, we just need to sort out what my daughter wants.

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>>52310916
>>52311023
>letting a woman inherit

>>52310767
Depends on if he can take a human form and produce viable offspring with my daughter and if having dragon blood in their veins will somehow make them stronger or smarter. Even so, as others have already said, only a second or third daughter unless he is a particularly well known dragon. I will not marry my eldest daughter to some literal who dragon.

>>52311072
THANK YOU!
and I would whore out my royal daughter for an alliance with a dragon in an instant. thats what daughters are for: securing alliances. even if that means she'd get torn apart by dragon dick

Alternatively, I would ask if the dragon has any daughters I can marry a son to.

>>52311122
Well, I would probably not marry her if she's gonna be torn apart by dragon dick. Not only because I'm a good guy who cares for her daughter, even objectively it's not very good for you to be seen by your subjects as "the guy who torned his daughter apart with dragon dicks".

>>52311072
>It's a daughter, not a son. It means jack shit for the bloodline.

Yeah, you can run your shitty little kingdom however you want, little princeling, but my kingdom has absolute primogeniture. The eldest child inherits regardless of sex, and my daughter is my eldest child. So she is my heir apparent, and her child will be her heir apparent.

That's why MY kingdom spans most of the continent, and yours consists of a single sausage factory.

>>52311181
Enjoy the resultant chaos and the uprage by alienated cultures, faggot.

>>52311098
If a king had no sons he might make a grandson his heir if he game up all other competing titles. Also matrelineal marriages are a thing anon

>>52311181
>he doesn't follow salic law
wew

>>52311072
When she dies (whether by time or dragon dick) there will no longer be ties between your family and the dragon. The alliance will end.

But if they produce children then the alliance will survive.

>>52311195
"Alienated cultures"?

Someone hasn't been reading nearly enough Machiavelli.

>>52311218
Or you can do what Poland and a few other nations have historically done to prevent secession crises.

"The law says that a Queen cannot rule. It doesn't say that the King must be a man."

>>52310767
How many daughters do I have? If one, I'd have to weigh the benefits of securing an alliance with the dragon against any other potential alliances.

If I've got multiple daughters, I would not hesitate to agree.

>>52311218
if. why the hell doesn't produce male heirs?
>>52311181
sure, being different pays out in medieval societies. that's why the jews were beloved by all european kingdoms and being excommunicated meant nothing.

>>52311229
You can marry more daughters to the dragon, duh.

>>52311285
*who, not why.

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>>52310944
>Only him and his knowledge.
>can shapeshift
So he's got control over at least some form of powerful magic.

Is he immortal?

If so, I have an immortal, powerful son in law. Even if he can't teach me the secrets of immortality, he can still explain massive amounts of history and teach me deep lore of the world. I also have an alliance with him, and my grandchildren will be half-dragon, which is pretty fucking badass and grants my bloodline massive amounts of security.

Plus, even in non-royal matters, having a dragon buddy sounds sweet as hell.

>>52311238
I don't know what Machiavelli has to do with the fact that, in every pre-industrial society advanced enough to create a political entity that "spans most of the continent" monarchies and dynastic holds are inherited prioritarily or exclusively by men.

>>52311072

Most dragons don't have surnames any ways, meaning the half-dragon ankle-biters will probably inherit yours by default.

Biggest problem is the potential succession crisis, but I would still allow the marriage. Having spares is always good, and I can always marry off the half dragons to my other grand children if succession looks like a dicey prospect. They'd be cousins so its all kosher.

>>52311265
Finally! An anon who understands. The rule is keep your own family in power and change succession laws as necessary, not "mah patriarchy, NOOO!" Or worse, people who think medieval history only comes from western Europe.

>>52310767
Only if it is respectable dragon with good credentials and not some hobolizard.

>>52311148
>not marrying yourself with the dragon's daughter
Are you even trying?

>>52311327
Yeah, and this is a world that has talking dragons. Normal Medieval standards need not apply.

>>52310767
"Dragon, I would accept your offer if I could, unfortunately my daughter is already married to Maximus "fuck dragons" coleson the Dragonslayer, if you wish you may become her consort as that is all you can become. I await your response in this matter"

>>52311346
>Most dragons don't have surnames any ways, meaning the half-dragon ankle-biters will probably inherit yours by default
>impliying the dragon wouldn't get a dynastic surname and a title as a marriage gift

You're like the worst king ever. Where are your majesty and magnanimity? This little things ARE important. I would eat you automatically if I was the dragon, even if you give me a thousand daughters.

>>52311392
>medieval

You mean anthropological. But right, OP didn't mention it was an human kingdom, sorry about not taking into account your mantis realm.

>>52311351
Mah patriarchy IS the way to keep your family in power tho.

>>52311351
look, if its a strong woman, I'd accept a Queen over any weak king. emancipation being what it is in medieval societies that still creates a lot of tension: "a woman reigning over ... ? well, now 's the time for war!"
>>52311181
also is just going by "she's the firstborn, therefore she gets to rule" is stoopid if the second or third child is way more suited for kingship

>>52311410

A DUEL, FOR HER HONOR!

Secretly I, the dragon, have been plotting with Maximus to make the greatest tournie event in history. Thousands will flock leagues to see the dragonslayer and dragon battle. The prize purse will be immense! And when I take a fall, we will split the winnings, Maximus ensures his name and legacy is known across the continent, and I walk away with an even bigger hoard.

Rinse repeat this in other lands. Not!Asia would consider my presence alone ad auspicious, and I must confess I have the occassional inklings for some 'yellow fever' should the mood strike, and these Chingchongs are so much more pliable when it comes to strange relations, unlike the dirty, hairy savages of not!Europe.

>>52311495
>yfw Maximus actually kills you for real because he's a cunt and gets the pussy and all the cash

Never trust dragon slayers.

>>52311495
Ok dragon, have your duel but my daughter fights for her own honor. Olga "the shatterer" godsworn the giantlayer

Remember, don't tap out too quick or she may take that as aggression

>>52311571

>implying its me and not a magical illusion
>implying i dont have dirt on him in case he tries to betray me
>implying that I wasn't Maximus all along and have been targetting rival dragons too dumb or arrogant to be subtle, ensuring my domain expands far and wide and I become the secret power behind the throne so I can cook the books and divert all profits to my pocket dimension lair guarded by neutronium golems

>>52310965
Still, its a giant fire breathing flying lizard that your enemies don't have. Plus they usually know magic so double as a wizard.
They're strong too so he could carry large amounts of good very easily over long distances, enabling you to gain more territory.

Can I still bang the dragon if I say yes?

>>52311666
Why would you have dirt on yourself in case you told the king that you were actually an illusion and wasn't...A dragon but actually are just in human form..

Making things too complicated, just say you have an anything proof shield, and leave the thread

>>52311181
>Kingdom is on moderately sized island off the main land.
>Doesn't even have full control of said island.

See my boy, it's not just your sister that's bad at geography. Now you better study hard or I'll find a big scary dragon for you to marry too.

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>>52310878

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>>52310767
>You are a king
>A human asks if he can marry your daughter?

Do you agree?

>>52311783
It's in case a shapechanger assumes his identity.

>>52311441
>There have never been female rulers
I mean, dude.

>>52310767
Overgrown lizard just wants the dowry

>>52310767
"Go fuck yourself you mouthfire stupid lizard fuck"

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>>52312015

Pic related.

>>52310944
>Only him and his knowledge.
Will he fight for us as a vassal of the state if embroiled in war?

>>52311890
Hot

>>52310767
>Asks
This means he's at least good. Bad guys don't ask. They kidnap your daughter and start quests to get them back.

>>52310767

How many kids do I have. I'm going to assume an Heir and a spare, along with at least the one daughter. The number of children I have to barter with the various interested parties is a very important factor in this decision.

It would also behoove me to consider the political climate of my kingdom and the surrounding kingdoms.

I can't make these decisions in a void, I need more information to determine whether or not this is the best thing for the continuation of my dynasty.

Assuming I have sufficient children to secure my line and maintain my power base through alliances to other noble and royal houses then I would likely be willing to have a dragon as a son in law, but if I don't then I might be risking the stability of the dynasty if I do, so I need to know that shit.

>>52310767
Probably want to get to know him a bit bit better, but if its a good match I dont see why not.

Jokes, bestiality is gross. SUMMON THE ADVENTURERS!

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>>52312316
It's only bestiality if they're not sapient.

>>52312119
if you wanna put something in his mouth, make it your dick rather than words. women rulers weren't broadly accepted, and were an exception due to some extraordinary circumstances

>>52312322
>>52311890

Interesting Fact. There is a tribe in south america that believes that semen is necessary for the growth of the fetus, and that mothers who receive more semen during the pregnancy give birth to healthier stronger children.

It is therefore the practice in this tribe for a pregnant woman to sleep with as many men in addition to the babies father as she can as often as she can in order to "grow" the baby. These men are considered to be doing the parents a service by contributing to the growth and strength of the child. Men negotiate in order to get their friends and neighbors to help.

The things you learn in anthropology classes man.

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>>52310767
But ... I am a Dragon.

>>52312371
Yeah, on Earth. With kingdoms exclusively populated by humans.

I see no reason to presume historical precedent can be used here.

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>>52311890
>Mfw doujins of Mine and Tatsumi never

>>52312439
>I see no reason to presume non-mantis-related precedents can be used here.
I mean, come on. maybe my daughter is a unicorn with eyebrows made of raisins. we can't assume anything then.

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>>52312470
WELCOME TO PRETEND LAND LAND OF PRETENDING DO YOU WANT TO PRETEND OR DO YOU WANT TO EXAMINE EVERYTHING WITH A MAGNIFYING GLASS AND SCREAM ABOUT HOW PRETEND ISN'T REAL AND EVERYTHING MUST ONLY BE REAL

>>52311122
>>52311168
>"Surely you've heard of King Anon IX the Terrible, who rules the realm with an iron fist and is feared far and wide"
>"Is he feared for his combat prowess, his military victories, his ruthless policies?"
>"Uh, not exactly"

>>52312470 >>52312392
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b3-KpdPjs0

>>52312504
look, maybe I wrongly assumed everyones fantasy world is filled with miserable bastards exacting revenge over petty quabbles. like in the real world. with dragons and magic.
maybe in your fantasy all is peachy after you killed that one BBEG, and there are no sereous intrigues. no fratricide over the throne. it was wrong of me to assume.
>but you did the same.
the world truly would be a better place if we'd stopped measuring with different scales.

>>52312637
read my other statement:
>>52311459

tl;dr: gavelkind succession laws ftw.

>>52311351
Well anons at first would need some knowledge other that memes from game of thrones and cuck kings to know that muh patriarchy was not as strict as many think.

It was a thing in earlier medieval period and by high medieval society passed to more modern inheritance law, based upon late Roman Law that threw away agnatic family and inheritance bulshit in favour of blood related inheritance.

Also talking about medieval law as monolith is fucking cancer as each village haw different sets of laws.
But in general while rare women in power did not cause too much social problem and widows often wielded considerable power inherited from their husbands.

As opposite argument if my memory serves me well, in Gdansk/Danzig there was riot by men demanding changes in inheritance laws as law was discriminatory to the men, by awarding widow and daughter all the gold of deceased.

Why is nobody asking the important question? What color is the dragon?

>>52313078 c >>52310878

>>52311072
Nah man, fuck that. My own children would be shitty compared to whatever half-dragon children they would have. Better to be remembered as the king who set the foundations for the draconic nobility.

How strong is a dragon compared to artillery?
How strong are dragon scales compared to steel?
Depending on the dragons strength i either accept or "accept" and capture the dragon and then breed the dragon with everything from lowly bar wenches in debt to cattle until i find some hybrid thats useful, then i mass produce that hybrid

>>52310767
Why the hell is he asking me?

I'm assuming that I'm "king" in the same sense that Elizabeth is a Queen. I'd be very uncomfortable otherwise. So go and ask her, I don't really care. I don't have any power anyway.

If I'm somehow forced into being an actual, ruling king, then I'll have to vet the dragon. Consent of my daughter is, of course, an absolute requirement, but I also need to make sure he'd be a kind and fair ruler. I don't want to put a psychopathic tyrant in the line of secession.

>>52310767
Depends on the Dragon and depends on the daughter. There are loads of wicked and unworthy dragons, and I also have several daughters that frankly aren't worth the seed they sprouted from, so I'm afraid I'll need more information.

>>52310767
"Ummmm... Do I know you? Does my daughter know you? Does she like you?"

>>52314376
>noble
>careing about what your children think or want
>ever

>>52314576
Hey man, the OP said I was the king. He never said I was born and bred to be king, or that my modern sensibilities were suddenly replaced with medieval ones.

>>52314675
Still
As king your job is to make sure that your kingdom survives to see the next king
If this means putting aside modern sensibilities in order to intimidate that large kingdom next door that has over a million winged hussar equivalents then so be it

>>52314276
you are a massive bitch

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>>52311318
Please don't post my daughter without my permission.

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>>52314740
will do

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>>52314718
That's fair enough, I suppose.
I'd still want know who he was, though. Having a dragon in the family for the sake of having a dragon in the family seems overly hasty. Plus, I'd need to know that my daughter wasn't UTTERLY opposed to marrying the dragon. Unhappy marriages lead to weak, uneasy alliances after all.

>>52310767
>you are a dragon
>a human asks if he can marry your dragon daughter

do you agree?

>>52315795
If he got through all the traps that would be in my layer without dying, he's a worthy mate. It shows intellect, durability, and a near-suicidal level of love for my daughter.

Sure! I'm going to just assume she wants to marry him as well, because otherwise she can just eat him. She's a big girl, she can take care of herself.

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>>52317315
>She's a big girl

>>52311072
Simple. If the daughter is the eldest/only child, ensure the dragon agrees to a matrilineal marriage, he takes the kingdom name for political reasons, and accepts a council or vizier position for his natural lifespan as his consort-ship ends. Boom, vastly powerful alliance and magic coursing through the bloodline.

If the daughter is definitely out of the succession then I still agree to the succession, and I carve out a respectable portion of the kingdom and declare him a Count or Duke. Still an excellent ally to have.

>>52311459
>"a woman reigning over ... ? well, now 's the time for war!"
Good thing I have a fucking dragon on my side, isn't it?

>>52310767
>You are a king
>A dragon asks if she can marry your son

>>52319568
No, the other fetishists are tolerable, but your type need to fucking die.

>>52319568
Fine by me.

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>>52319639
Wait, you're alright with each and every fetish on this lovely board, up to and including m/f dragon lovin', but you draw the line at a female dragon being with a male humanoid?

Anon, that's sounds to me like it's your fetish and your ashamed of it.

Show us on the doll where the dragon lady touched you.It's alrightThis is a safe space.

:^)

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>>52319841
I want to touch the dragon lady.

>>52319932
We all want to touch the dragon lady

>>52310767
He may begin courting her at the very least.
Having a friendly relationship with a dragon can't hurt, and if they find a way to reproduce, my daughter is in perfect position to insure that we have a line of half dragons loyal to my heir

>>52312322

Barring the fact that without magic you really couldn't maintain sperm viability long enough, I actually do like the idea. of children that belong to the community alongside children with specific parentage. Maybe there's some sort of ritual/festival thing that occasionally causes the father to be unknown. Maybe also part a parcel to the idea that teen pregnancy isn't a big thing.

>>52310767
>interracial cuckoldry

No.

>>52320545
>Cuckoldry
>Implying your daughter already has a lover
A dragon may be your only bet if she's a nonvirgin King Anon

>>52320597
Nobody marries my daughter but me.

All scaly niggers go home.

>>52314276
Only right answer.

why do dragons have such a princess fetish?

>>52321023
They're just in it for the dowry and or inheritance.

Riches before bitches.

>>52311890
>those dragon sperm

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>>52310812
Well I never! I'll have you know that Duke Charles the Flamboyant will hear of this!

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>>52311069
buy him Skyrim as a wedding gift

>>52321023
Same reason Dragoness's have a prince fetish
Royalty makes the best snacks/sex toys/broodmates

>>52312944
>>
Well anons at first would need some knowledge other that memes from game of thrones and cuck kings to know that muh patriarchy was not as strict as many think.

a more practical factor is woman were likely to die of childbirth. It's "safer" to have the principle ruler be the male.

>>52319932
>>52320011
I want the dragon lady to touch me against my will

>>52321316
How can you want it if it is against your will?

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>>52311072
>He doesn't want his future heirs to run around with Ex Flight (useful for many situations), +8 STR +6 CON +2 INT +2 CHA, plus potentially natural armor and energy immunity

>>52321402
I have very conflicting desires

>>52310767
If he can make her agree to it, I am not gonna marry her off against her own will.
Not that I could anyway...

>>52310767
Yes if the dragon is a good person, will make my precious daughter happy and if he can help in the management of the kingdom. After all, if he marries my daughter he will become my courtier since he apparently doesn't have a place to stay. If he does have a place to stay, the reply will still be yes if it os a good place for my princess and eventually my grandkids.

No if the dragon has a foul mood, bad reputation and doesn't really love my daughter and care for her well-being or if the dragon already belongs someplace which is inhospitable for a noble girl such as her to stay in.

>>52310767
My daughter ? Fuck no never !
I'll ask him to marry me instead.

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>>52321409
It can't be pedophilia if she's a 3000 year old dragoness

>>52310767
>You are a king.
>A dragon asks if he can marry your daughter.

Thats my fetish

>You are King
>A dragon wishes to marry you
What do?

>>52321885
dismantle kingdom, sell all titles to petty fief warlords, kill self

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Mfw this entire fucking thread

>>52310767
No daughter of mine is going to marry a libertarian.

>>52311327
Complete bullshit. Russian Empire, which is as close as you could get to spanning over most of the continent, was ruled by women for about two thirds of the 18th century. Sort of run out of male heirs, what with all those coups, including ones led by future empresses.
Some of them were pretty decent rulers.

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>>52310767
>I marry the dragon

>>52314276
Great and all, but the marriages in the royal family are the only power a Queen like Elizabeth II still have, and fail to use it or to make everyone in her family understand. Example : her sister wanted to get married with a divorced man, she needed to ask the Queen, and then she could'nt marry him.

If you are a ruling king, then more than before the consent of the daughter is usually irrelevant. Hell, even the consent of the heir to the throne is irrelant, for the state is almigthy and you shall give all for its stability and prosperity, as the ruler did and expect.

>>52310767
This is actually rather convenient to me, as it secures my daughter a comfortable life of wedded luxury, and means I can send my upstart grand-nephew to his death when he comes around next year demanding that she be wed to him. In exchange, I can adopt the firstborn son of the dragon and my daughter, have him legitimized as *my* progeny, and proclaim him my heir, myself having no legitimate sons.

Having a half-dragon sorcerous grandchild that I can personally raise to become a proper ruler seems far better than allowing my sister's grandson to ascend the throne, and allows me to save face compared to legitimizing a bastard born of the indiscretions of my youth.

>>52310767
>You wish to partake of my daughter's awesome boobage?
>Then you must first prove your worth in the arena

>>52310767
>'sup senpai?
>call me if you need anything else

>>52312701
Fuck gavelkind mate. Works well enough for personal inheritance, but it makes the maintenance of a large state damn near impossible without fratricide.

>>52321084
Underrated

Only if i get to watch the dragon eat her

>>52323786
Ultimogeniture is where it's at.

Youngest possible new ruler, ensuring he rules for as long as possible, thus giving increased stability with his long rule.

>>52323905
>codified genitive inheritance of power
Absolutely Disgusting. It implies that there is a law above the Divine Right invested in the monarch. The heir is whoever the monarch declares to be heir, age, gender, and relation be damned.

>>52323786
Empires and large states are over rated.

>>52321162
>a more practical factor is woman were likely to die of childbirth. It's "safer" to have the principle ruler be the male.

The fuck kind of Gods-hating kingdom do you have where you don't have a single cleric on-staff to cast Cure Wounds?

>>52311072
technically, she can. Or more importantly, her children can.

>>52311455
Another way to keep your family in power is to have a dragon and a bunch of half-dragons in the family, as >>52318284 pointed out.

>>52324004
>The heir is whoever the monarch declares to be heir, age, gender, and relation be damned.
I'll say it again: gavelkind rules. I wanna choose, if my sons are weak, allright, we can have a warrior maid as queen. If I've a firstborn daughter and a son/sons, I'll choose the strongest/smartest of the males and birth order be damned.

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>>52310767
My future grandson better not fuck around once he grows up. So yes, I take the hoard, buy myself a nice wizard tower and force wizards to summon a succubus all day erry day

>>52310767
If all my assumptions about dragons hold up, yes.

Ass. 1: Dragons are naturally powerful, cunning, and at least have the "potential" to easily take over a petty kingdom with that power and savvy.

Ass. 2: In most settings, they can breed with mortals, and their off-spring are objectively superior to mortal-mortal babies.

Ass. 3: Dragons are relatively predictable; entire books have been written about how all Blues collect magic, every Copper is a wannabe stand-up comedian, etc... and any dragon that makes itself known to have significant enough ambition to marry a princess will most likely already be famous enough to have any idiosyncrasies well known and published.

Barring any major-league violations of these assumptions (Weakness, sterility, straight up insanity, etc...) this wedding is a-go.

>needing heirs
>not being an immortal benevolent Archlich king
Shiggy diggy doo

>>52324473
>not being a retired immortal senile Archlich king
scooby dooby doo

>>52324473
>lichdom
Flush my credibility directly down an interplanar boundary, why don't you?

>>52324498
>Archlich
Nigga you aint some kinda bitch-ass normal lich

>>52323905
>>52324004
>>52324402
>>52323786

>Not Elective

Fuck you you mongrel of a King. Your crown is only there on your head by the appointment of and at the pleasure of the dukes of this land!

>>52324506
>liches are bitches
>bitches get stitches
>king of the bitches
>corpses in ditches
Nah, fuck off ya cheeky cunt.

>>52324545
>Deriving right of rulership from a congregation of lesser men
Laughable at best.

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>>52324545
>my crown is only there on my head by the appointment of and at the pleasure of the gods of this land!
fuck elective, it sucks and leads to infighting all the time. whereas when I say who is to become my heir, all dukes agree, and if not, guess who isn't on the council any more? and guess whom my spymaster's plotting to kill next?

>>52324694
>and guess whom my spymaster's plotting to kill next?
Roger A. Muribe?

>>52323786
sorry, dude, I meant elective gavelkind, not normal gavelkind. in all my posts, actually. didn't specify that, my bad.

>>52324694
Wow. And the day of your death, all the dukes go "Naaaah not this one, this one."

Then civil war ensue. Or not.

T'was at the death of Louis XIV of France. "The count of Orleans will not be the regent, I forbid it in my will" ; the king dies, the count goes to the parliament with the will, and the will can just go burn in hell.

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>>52324835
>having a parliament
Again, you seem to be implying that a monarch is somehow governed by a higher Earthly power, rather than governing by divine right.

>>52324771
That's the bastard who doesn't have any heirs (his son backed an uprising, was imprisoned and mauled by a bear), I am his liege. guess who'll get the dutchy if he falls off a balcony? and he's not even my culture... sorry, all those CK2 plots are having an impact on my judgement of fantasy worlds.
although mine never were "happy ever after" even before all that.

>>52324874
>implying that a monarch is somehow governed by a higher Earthly power, rather than governing by divine right.

>Not needing justice courts to rule
>Said justice courts can go fuck off if Louis XIV desired

>>52324835
come on, either you back the heir I chose, or you're off the team. and fuck those cuckolds who have empowered councils.

>>52324925
>>52324835
Why are you so keen on slobbing that particular dead frenchman's knob?

>>52324977
let it go, this dude's an example for what suits this dicussion. it's perfectly fine.

>>52324977
Best example of Absolute Divine Rule getting fucked by inheritance whilst antogonizing the powerful men of the country I could think of, essentially

>>52324942
Oh. Of course I back the heir.

But then, if you die, you will not be there to order me executed, isn't it ? I shall just bid my time.

>>52325146
>But then, if you die,

Fuck I wanted to add >and stop backing the heir,

>>52325146
well, not executed, but rather assassinated. as in "unfortunate accident, who would have thought." but the heir is already elected. maybe we'll have a regent until he's of age. my council is still around, and my spymasters and marshals and generals wouldn't mind being on the good side of the new king. of course one can be overthhrown, this could also happen while I, the king still am alive. and of course, the new regency is especially weak in its first few years, but that is true no matter what kind of succession laws you have.
just to be on the same page, we don't have any wars going on, and a more or less content nobility prior to the kings death?

>>52310767
Miscegenation is destructive, no

>>52310767
I ask my daughter if she wants to marry a dragon.

>>52310767
MOM!
THE FETISH LOVERS ARE POSTING AGAIN!

For the Hand of my Daughter, the dragon must complete a noble quest! He must resurrect a Gallant Knight and then kidnap a Princess. Only once this is done will he have proved his worth.

>>52311095
>what my daughter wants

Inconsiquential.

>>52310767
only if I can marry his sister.

>>52324494
>a retired immortal senile Archlich king
That's it, I'm doing this in my next campaign

>tells the adventurers his daughter has been kidnapped by a dragon
>they travel to his lair
>halfway through the fight the princess stops the battle, explaining that they married with her fathers blessing and to seal the alliance
>adventurers return, slightly angry
>"who are you? what dragon, there' hasn't been a dragon here in 200 years - I would know, afterall!"

>>52323281
An absolute monarchy in the 18th cdntury is hardly the same as a feudal, medieval kingdom.

>>52327415
Alteratively they get ro the heart if the lair only to find the bones of the dragon. His daughter was kidnapped 1200 years ago before he was even a lich and had long since died after the dragon was slain.

>>52327415
>>52327723
if your players aren't jerks and bitch about it, its a really fun twist. I'd love a campaign like that.

>>52327610
That is still an advanced pre-industrial society which does not object to a female monarch inheriting the throne, or even seizing one by an armed coup. And fantasy settings usually aren't strictly medieval, so it's not implied by context.
There is also the fact that Russia was not among the most progressive nations, so the gap between the Middle ages and 18th century is not as huge as it seems.
I would like to hear why exactly absolute primogeniture is possible in 18th century, but not earlier, though.

>letting a dragon bed your daughter for it's power
>not killing the dragon and eating it's heart then mounting it's skull above the castle gates

It's like you want to ruin your bloodline.

>>52310767
I offer to marry the dragon instead.

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>>52328187
>not giving the dragon your heart instead

>>52328187
>ruin
you misspelled enhance

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>>52328260
Praise Zarus you lizardblooded freak

>>52328289
I know Zarus is so irrelevant that he normally isn't even listed among the deities, but have the times gotten so tough that he needs to get worship from non-humans? It's like Hitler asking Bank of Russia for a loan.

>>52310924

But you clearly have a daughter. You've somehow already found a woman that had sexy with you.

>>52328501
>implying daughters count as offspring
if the queen can't bear an heir, chop off her head and marry the next one.

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>>52310767
"The human one or the half-human one?"

>>52319568
>You are a king
>A dragon asks if he can marry your daughter(male)

>>52311095
>what my daughter wants.

L2Political marriage anon

>>52328501
Maybe the queen died.
>>52328636
Calm the fuck down Henry!

>>52330159
you got the reference, good. now, how did the queen in your scenario die? something to do with balconies, amd gravity by any chance?

>>52324250
>The fuck kind of Gods-hating kingdom do you have where you don't have a single cleric on-staff to cast Cure Wounds?

What manner of King-hating Gods do you worship in your land? Everyone knows wife dying in child birth means the Gods want you to get a newer better model.

>>52310767

Well it depends on the dragon and the daughter, of course. The situation is everything.

So, sometimes yes, sometimes no.

>>52330489
An intelligent, wealthy, and powerfully sorcerous dragon; your beautiful, intelligent, and fiercely "independent" daughter.

>>52311122
>she'd get torn apart by dragon dick
This is what this thread is about anyway, lets not pretend its not.

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>>52310767
>A dragon asks if he can marry your daughter.
Is the dragon a cute girl?

>>52331114
If there's one thing I've learned here it's that an acient powerful dragon can ALWAYS be a cute girl.

>>52330549
Grant them my blessing, one of my elite royal guard and a goofy jester and send them to adventure a year or two until they want to settle down.

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>>52331958
>after a year of adventuring, the princess decides to settle down with the jester

>all these fags who leave their heir to random chance
Appoint those niggas, nigga

>>52310767

"Sure, I would love to have you as a Step-Son, but have you met my daughter already? You should probably do that first."

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>>52310767
what? does he think I'll just marry my prime and first daughter off to just about anything that slithers around and asks for her hand?

He'll have to fuck me first if he wants to prove himself and ear her hand!

>>52337251
So...Is that pic supposed to be you, or "him"?

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>>52324457
dragons don't have asses

>>52332704
honk

>>52340794
obviously him. Let him come for the King and prove his width - i mean worth to the King

THEN we'll see about mariage

>>52311890
What a waste of resources and energy. All she would need to do is turkey baster-equivalent, not take a literal bath in the stuff.

>>52310767
How many children do I have?
Is my daughter okay with marrying the dragon?
Can dragons and humans interbreed? Is this dragon particularly knowledgeable in arcane secrets, occult wisdom or hidden knowledge? Things that could kick start a supernatural heritage in my kingdom, basically. (I'm okay with my grandchildren intermarrying if it lets them fly and breath fire, for example, as long as we make it an every other generation thing.)

>>52310767
Does she want that? I do what she wants, her happiness is what matters to me.

>>52319568
If she's after my heir? Then yeah. Definitely. Since she's unlikely to be killed, but ultimately loyal to her children, she'd do all sorts of things to protect them, while imparting as much supernatural aid as she possibly can to them throughout the generations.

Since she came to me for approval, then she follows standard patriarchal concepts and thus would be highly unlikely to try and usurp the throne.

At that point, all I have to do is make sure my descendants aren't warped by her morals, which is vaguely easy to do as long as I insist on them being educated in kingly customs.

If the boy isn't my heir, then I make sure to extract a number of promises from the dragon regarding the throne and then grant them a small patch of land near the border of my kingdom while granting high titles and honors. The one that is normally constantly attacked. A generation of peace on a front is just barely not worth it, so if I luck out and the dragon-blooded lineage is okay not taking over, then it's fine.

>>52319568
>You are a King/Queen
>The dragon asks if he/she can marry you

>>52310767
>this actually happens fairly regularly
>the land's nobility are made up of sorcerers who are descendants of dragons.
>every couple of generations the nobility reseeds their bloodline with fresh dragonblood
>dragons get a sizable donation to their horde and some hot prince/princess action
>every once in a while a new noble house springs up when some peasant manages to seduce a dragon

>>52312392
Wait a fucking second, which school did you take Anthropology classes at?