Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>52275386
Okay, GM has officially given his word on this and said that it wasn't 2hu's fault. But...

>2hu crowds out the FAQ thread in the LFG
>Asks for his usual laundry list of stuff
>GM is trying to reply, saying yes to some of it
>For every "yes", 2hu pushes harder
>Suddenly 2hu posts a huge wall of text justifying loli catgirls as a distinct subrace in the setting
>This same post hijacks part of the GM's lore and turns an assassin order into a martial tradition
>Within the next several hours, GM makes a public statement that the game has to be closed down due to IRL drama.
>GM returns a month later with it all mysteriously resolved and the Character Creation rules explicitly disallowing 2hu's favorite tactics

I'm not saying, I'm just saying.

Why do all the SoM playtests get listed, but none of the SoP do?

Creation Handbook Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kitAB8sHgmuD3fvOMuI_KyV_dxpO2wrxQmbnCoRgglA/edit?usp=sharing
Dark Handbook Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zHRZyaMh_QwWcQ-ROGCjQyCdflD6cbm9VdEOJMpC06I/edit?usp=sharing
Life Handbook Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wTv7VGj2qzjGnReD1lLRwC8iNG_G6f-a6XzMQlTB1yM/edit?usp=sharing
Mind Handbook Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Kp4acH7zTk4e3DfPdYDfTk1jJClly3yp27Jfrf3FRWw/edit?usp=sharing

Gear of Power Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zIomq0TFP7uPdlFB8VRAIWQEjAXLV5CYpP3HmjySynU/edit?usp=sharing
Wild Magic Handbook: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xBfoH6YcTdD3kwjn3ikItWPBGzIm9g3SVkVvUQD1yUw/edit?usp=sharing
Wild Magic Tables: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NU5bK1Dyzu66KgIdrHNaaXBw1eHVpcHZHOh5BDaxMzU/edit?usp=sharing

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Women are monsters so yes?

>>52275469
When was the last time Creation Sphere Handbook author was active?

Some things have been unresolved for months now.

>>52275440
That... actually doesn't look very good for 2hu...

And now there's this Hell's Rebels thing...

>>52275408

Yes! My character for PLD is in love with a monster!

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So! How was your weekend, /pfg/? Do anything fun or exciting, game-related or otherwise?

>>52275525

No see it's fine because the DM is running a second game explicitly because he knows 2hu is going to destroy the first one.

Kay folks, I posted this earlier, but it got swallowed by the old thread.

I'm gonna run Reign of Winter for four players. I enjoy higher-power games with more Martial focus- so I'm doing Spheres, PoW, Jollyneticists and Jollyvigilantes, the whole nine yards. However, I'm hitting a stumbling block with the requests of one player for psionics classes.

On the one hand, psionics classes do some very neat, interesting things. Psychic Armory, Aegis, Soulknife, Tactician, Vitalist, etc, all are pretty dang neat. On the other hand, it's another magic system to keep track of, along with all its interactions between normal magic, spheres, and such.

So what should I do? I like Psionics but I want to avoid bloat, and I prefer Spheres to keep things more down to earth. It's a bit of a dilemma and I'd like some input from you anons

>>52275504
Creation guy had his computer explode on him, so it screwed things up for a while.

>>52275540

It was very fun, FennecAnon! I went out with friends for St. Patrick's Day and played a wonderful session of SotJR with some real cool people!

>>52275540
I learned that I didn't actually have work today and spent the whole day shitposting!

>>52275563
Oh!
Well that's a relatively better outcome than the possibility they went AWOL.

>>52275555

Do you have enough time to comfortably digest the information? If not, than I suggest telling the player they can't play a Psionic for this campaign.

Could I stab someone with a weapon and then cast Enlarge on the weapon to make a bigger wound?

>>52275579
>Well that's a relatively better outcome than the possibility they went AWOL.
No, that was the Time writer that did that.

>>52275622
Exactly why I was worried the same happened here.
There was nothing interesting in the Time handbook

Is there a sphere Gish worth a damn?

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What should I do when my entire party is has gone full murder hobo? I'm a lawful good life oracle and the party face.

>>52275656
Sphere Warpriest. Now you have approximately thirteen trillion points in twenty thousand pools, but it works.

>>52275529
Cancergame, please go and stay go.

>>52275645
Fututrist Gunslinger and Trained by yourself from the future tradition are neat, conceptually at least.

Same for the "time traveling fiends that try to force the world into the worst timeline" monsters.

>>52275597
Only if you do it to a helpless target
Because the spell has 1 round cast time you know

I'm F/SN anon from yesterday.

The game would be set during the 9th Holy Grail war occurring in 2021 in San Francisco.

I personally have run 6 other Holy Grail wars with the 1st and the 5th being backstory wars (I ran 2-4, added 5 as a backstory war, and ran 6-8). All the previous ones were for my in person group. Most often I would take Lancer as an NPC servant in order to facilitate a better Holy Grail War. I'll give a list of previous servants:

>Saber
1st: UNKNOWN
2nd: Charlemagne
3rd: William the Conquerer
4th: Maximilian the 1st
5th: John Hawkwood
6th: Alfred the Great
7th: Sigurd
8th: John Hawkwood

>Archer
1st: Cupid
2nd: Roland Deschain
3rd: Billy the Kid
4th: Nimrod
5th: Odysseus
6th: Adolf Hitler
7th: Simo Häyhä
8th: The Freeshooter

>Lancer
1st: Vlad the Impaler
2nd: Captain Ahab
3rd: Achilles
4th: Perseus
5th: Judas
6th: Shaka Zulu
7th: St. George
8th: Hannibal

>Rider
1st: Ramessess II
2nd: Genghis Khan
3rd: Attila the Hun
4th: Paul Revere
5th: Don Quixote
6th: Attila the Hun
7th: Richard the Lionhearted
8th: St. George, The Dragon Slayer

>Caster
1st: Circe
2nd: Masamune
3rd: Geppetto
4th: Diogenes the Cynic
5th: Doctor Frankenstein
6th: John the Baptist
7th: Edgar Allan Poe
8th: H.P. Lovecraft

>Assassin
1st: Sun Tzu
2nd: Judas
3rd: Arda Mulissi
4th: The Zodiac Killer
5th: Hassan-i Sabbah
6th: Guy Fawkes
7th: John Wilkes Booth
8th: Edgar Allan Poe

>Berserker
1st: Seigfried
2nd: Cain, First Murderer
3rd: Ivar the Boneless
4th: Ragnar Ludbruk
5th: Seigfried
6th: Samson
7th: Abraham Lincoln, Raging Abe
8th: Sun Wukong

A lot of these happened in the 'canon' for the games long enough ago that they are no longer relevant. For instance the first Holy Grail war happened in 1802.

I don't have it compiled well as more than notes because we hadn't really changed players that much for these games. I would have to write a booklet people can draw from. Is anyone interested?

WotR second session was cute. Not too much gameplay progression because the DM was a bit braindead after having to write a paper, but good character interaction.

>Lorelei soloed a frog-man by beating him to death with her spellbook
>the rest of the party fought a mob of earth elements
>the redhead punchgirl whose name nobody can spell right carried Anevia through the caverns and smacked her ass when she wouldn't stop fidgeting
>the party traded some background information
>"Irina" the crossdressed male vigilante got into a conversation about relationships
>Rath and punchgirl decided to set Irina up on a date with a nice man
>Tia made the other girls jealous of her impossibly pretty hair

>>52275589
Im getting scheduling and character/party building done this week, so I should have enough time to make sure everything is digested. It's less the Psionic classes that bug me, it's introducing another subsystem. I'm already familiar with how it works, it's just how it will interact within the game with spheres and maneuvers that I'm unsure about

>>52275656
I've been toying with a incanter 1, sphere magus 2, combat+font of inspiration hedgewitch build. Not sure how good it is though.

>>52275645
When the handbook project started, anyone who wanted to try and write could grab a book. A bunch of new writers signed up and ended up dropping. Several books have been reassigned. Both time and life got books into playtest to only have the writers disappear. Life is now back in playtest with a new writer, and Time has been given to someone else, too. And yeah, Time was pretty bad.

>>52275683
Not even half as cancerous as the people lying about it to shitstir

>>52275712
Psionic classes interact with other things identical to spells, and there's a discipline->school conversion chart if necessary for specific effects.

>>52275694
Sure, interested. Although desu I'd say that at least 12-15 would make for a better starter level range, even if it risks Caster doing Caster shenanigans.

>>52275712
It probably shouldn't interact super weird with maneuvers, since PoW was partially designed with Psionic content in mind(Zealot, Sleeping Goddess, there was a Psionic-gish in the first Path of War book).

Just keep Psionic magic transparency in mind with Sphere shit, and it should be all good.

>>52275540
I'm tired fennec anon. I slept 14 hours on Saturday and woke up tired and spent my entire day tired.

>>52275703
How far did your group get? Did you reach the cavern chasm? Did you meet the inhabitants? I'm curious what you did with those.

>>52275741
I have done level 15 and 12 before actually. I was thinking of going a bit lower. Might bump it back up to 12.

>>52275758
Nothing big yet. Just the frog and elementals and then time spent spelunking more afterwards following the way out.

>>52275540
I tried Rum and Coke for the first time and played some board games (Betrayal at the House on the Hill was dank as fuck I tell ya hwat) with my sister and her friends mostly. Had to pour one out for a relative who passed away, and finally had someone fail to show up to a game so I didn't get to play it this week. For like, the third time. Went about as well as every other weekend desu.

>>52275670
Damn, I dislike playing priestly characters.

>>52275703
Girls pls
The world just ended
Please think about the peril you are and not just gossip about boys

>>52275694
>Abraham Lincoln and John Wilkes Booth in the same war
fucking brutal

>>52275656
>Is there a sphere Gish worth a damn?

Warpriest (sphere warpriest or divine heretic), Combat tradition Hedgewitch (a number of good options for the second tradition), Mageknight has good support, and there is a lot of gish feats in the War handbook.

>>52275795
>Mageknight has good support
I kept hearing MageKnight was hot garbage.

>>52275780
So dm is adding shit? There are no frogs or elementals in WotR book one...unless you mean the mongrelmen.

>>52275826
>I kept hearing MageKnight was hot garbage.
Ah to elaborate, care to explain what makes them good.

>>52275826
Armorist is hot garbage. Mageknight has so many archetypes and combat options it's hard to nail down as easily.

>>52275694
>sci-fi F/SN in pathfinder

Fucking what?

>>52275540
I played Dominion for the first time. It was fun. I won a game. My favorite part is deconstructing the decks after the game and talking with the other autistic player about how the different plays affected the outcome.

>>52275827
Yes. It's pretty obvious there were some simple edits to maps and stuff, but since I don't know the original WotR I can't call the differences.

>>52275785
But just think of Irina on a date with a big strong paladin-type and blushing the entire time, anon.

>>52275540
Weekend was nothing special, but I'm now doing prep work for my home Hell's Rebels game on Wednesday.
Or should be prepping, I'm completely dead after a day of work, and the fact that I have to prepare one plot hook and a half doesn't help: the AP is ridiculously open ended at times, and I don't know where the PC wants to do now.

>>52275860
Try Star Realms, it's like Dominion but faster and you get to kill each other.

>>52275784
Play an Arsenal Chaplain and devote yourself to WAR.

>>52275540
I drank and played video games in a shed in a buddy's back yard.

Is Slayer||Path of War Stalker too redundant if you're doing a gestalt, don't want to be a caster and want d10 HP/Full BAB?

>>52275888
It's pretty okay, yea.

>>52275888
I think they'd synergize pretty well. Slayer gives complementary but not directly overlapping abilities.

>>52275694
Dude, just start a discord, servers just came back up.

>>52275869
You are stuck underground with demons and shit
Think about it

>>52275703

No, no.

>Rath suggested to set up Irina on a date with someone matching the description of their male alter eo

>>52275738
>>52275750
Thanks anons. I'll keep that in mind. I'm gonna start getting my players all wrangled up so we can discuss the party and the composition of it.

>>52275657
Give up. Leave and stop associating with people who cannot be reasoned with. And if they break laws or just become merciless murder machines, well......do what they do to a rapid boar that is attacking travelers near a village full of hunters.

>>52275888
Unless you're a Stalker (Vigilante) you'd almost certainly be better off going Unchained Monk.

>>52275869
>>52275908
Yeah, you won't find many big strong paladin-types underground even in Mendev.

You know, other than the one.

Nudge nudge.

Can someone explain who Variant Multi-classing works? Exactly? Like I'm functionally retarded?

Cause I've read the entry in the SRD and it makes zero god damn sense to me. It might as well in written in Arabic.

>>52275694
Don't use Pathfinder for this, it won't work.

t. huge type-moon weeb

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Which Hell's Rebels character would make the best meme?

>>52275942
When you make your character you choose your VMC. You do not receive a feat at levels 3, 7, 11, 15, and 19. Instead, you receive a class feature as noted underneath the VMC entry of the class you're taking features from.

>>52275942
Lose the feats gained at 3, 7, 11, 15, and 19. Get certain class features from your VMC class instead.

>>52275942
You replace feats at certain level with specific class abilities from whatever class you want to VMC into.

>>52275928
What about brute slayer?

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>>52275948
>I've done this and it worked
>don't, it won't work

>>52275942
Basically, you pick a class. You gain specific abilities from that class in exchange for half your feats.

>>52275948
it's worked for me the last 6 times I did it by just imposing restrictions/changes and accepting there will be some differences

t. other type moon weeb

>>52275942
You give up the feats you would normally gain from increasing Hit Dice at 3rd, 7th, 11th, 15th, and 19th levels. In exchange, you gain the listed abilities.

>>52275961
>character
>meme
That's not how it works.

>>52275990
>he hasn't turned a character into a meme

>>52275978
You're going Brutal Slayer and the choice isn't instantly obvious to you?
Mutagen Warrior Fighter VMC Barbarian.

>>52275942
>Like I'm functionally retarded

Everyone gets a feat at every odd level. That's 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17, and 19.

With VMC, you replace half of those and get the listed features when it tells you you get them.

What do you not understand?

>>52275942
You replace the feats listed with the class abilities offered in liu of them.

It's not fucking rocket science. It's fucking simpler than making a goddamn character.

>>52275966
>>52275965
>>52275977
>>52275982
>>52275986
Thanks. This makes a lot more sense then whatever the fuck the SRD was trying to say.

>>52276000
I was considering that but I wanted skill points/some light out of combat versatility.

>>52275942
You either give half your feats you would gain from leveling to become useless with better unarmed strikes or firearm proficiency or get magus' arcane pool or oracle's things and compliment your class without having to give up your class features.

>>52276000
My oh my that's some STANK cheese right there anon

>The city has fallen and you're trying to make it to safety
>Now's the perfect time to put our trap on a date with a generic faceless Paladin hunk we have laying around

>>52276032
Not really, that's just decent synergy.

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>>52276035
Priorities, anon.

>>52275694
Interested. Hit me up in spyros.kotteas on skype or Karthagas#7907

>>52276051
Schenkopp is a bro.

>>52276051

Why would a Paladin want to waste any time dating a worthless piece of flesh they can't have kids with?

Everyone says Mendev is a beacon of progressive tolerance because it doesn't have time to be picky about who they get, but at the same time doesn't that mean they strongly encourage having oodles of children to fuel the warmachine?

>>52275408
Maybe when she was younger? Depends on if gnolls are monsters.

>>52276018
You've already got skill points from going Stalker. If you want out of combat utility on a full BAB class then Unchained Monk is probably still better - ki powers can get you some neat tricks.

>>52276035
It's a coping mechanism, mostly. We don't know how many are dead, or how many of those might have been people we knew. All we can do is think about what we're going to do when we make this right.

>>52275408
Do Korvosans count as monsters?

>>52275694
Interested. Hit me up in Karthagas#7907 on discord.

>>52276088
Veiled moon is already a ton of the same out of combat utility as u monk. It's not really needed imo.

>>52276081

Gnolls are absolutely monsters, specifically the worst assholes you have ever met. They make Orcs look like saints in their depravity.

>>52276101
Ah yes, I forgot how Veiled Moon can do
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/monk/archetypes/paizo---monk-archetypes/qinggong-monk/
all of that.

>>52275694
>Adolf Hitler as an archer

Please elaborate

Also, as a rule, must Sabers have Saberfaces?

>>52276124
Saberfaces?

>>52276105
Then definitely, she fell in love with a monster.

>>52275694
Is it bad I want to play a black guythat got paired with H.P Love Craft or a Jew that got paired with Hitler?

>>52276138
Sabers are all palette swaps.

>>52275926
That seems evilish, anything more nice I can do to stop them?

>>52276160

That hitler one though sounds like the greatest redemption story possible

>>52276124
You know Hitler was the one demanding all the crazy, over the top German tank projects, right? The panther, tiger, tiger ii, Maus, and Entwicklung series were all him.

>>52276035
>not realizing that people talk about inane things when stuck in an absurdly dangerous and yet weirdly boring situation

You've never watched an episode of MASH, have you?

>>52276123
Teleporting and walking through walls covers a lot of that.

>>52275995
This guy gets it

>>52276166
Bargain with them, put some emotion in your speech. If that doesn't help, abandoning them is the only option aside from wholesome LG murder, which as you pointed out is not a nice thing to do.

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>>52276138
A bit of a gag since Saber is Nasu's Mary Sue and favored character, he keeps recycling Saber's design for other characters.

As an example, Mordred, King Arthur and Nero all look identical except for minor details each.

>>52276209
And now the asshole is corrupting Tsukihime too

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Don't hide it from me, /pfg/.

Which character turned meme would you most like to take on a dinner date?

>>52276079
Well, obviously that just means the paladin needs to keep Irina as a second wife.

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>don't want to play an alchemist again in my 1pp-only group, but am itching to be a full sneak attack class
>no matter how hard I try I can't make myself be enthused for URogue
>try to get some by listing out how many feats I'd need to have a wide array of "cool tools"
>it just makes me realize I should just stick with Vivisectionist even more

Even with Unchained Rogue, how have Rogue players not just killed themselves in despair?

>>52276209
>>52276248
>Nasu's Mary Sue
It's Takeuchi's clearly.

>>52276254
In order

Onryou, Etan, Rory

>>52276273
There's also now Stalker Vigilante as rogue-plus.

>>52276273
Try Vigilante? Slayer? Investigator?

>>52276292
viligante stalker

>>52276308
Vigilante Stalker//Stalker Vigilante character when

>>52276254
Onryou. I don't care what I have to pay for the damages and the booze, I want to make her smile.

>>52276288
"The mind of a human who pursues the blonde-haired female knight he adores until the utmost limit. Employing all his skills, an infinite number of characters similar to Saber will be given life. A great delusion that erodes the stance of the company."

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>>52275656
ALMOST DONE WITH UC SPHERE MAGUS

JUST HAVE TO FINISH THE REPLACEMENT TRADITION FOR BLADEBOUND!

Speaking of which, what kind of bonuses and progression do you guys think would be good for an intelligent item that the caster draws his power from (much like Wiess from Nier, or Senketsu from KLK)

>>52276308
Paizo did this shit on purpose. You can not convince me otherwise.

>>52276254
It'll be Irina by the end of this thread.

>>52276273
I feel like this about all classes vs alchemist/investigator tbqhwu

the only classes that have anything legtimate over alchemist are full casters who are broken as hell, they can emulate any other archetype while also having room for dumb gimmicky stuff

the solution to class balance in pathfinder is just ban every class that isn't those two

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>>52276101
How do I make pic related /pfg/? All 3pp stuff available.

>>52276254
Rinka, but instead of a dinner date its noogies for 8 hours straight

>>52276337
unchained monk??

I guess?

Who is that nog

>>52276337
That's just an Unchained Monk.

>>52276254
Valeriya, but I'd be sure to pull out before I finished http://i.imgur.com/lB9nKUB.gifv

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>>52276337
>>52276357
>>52276361


Whoops wrong pic

>>52276376
Edgelord Harbinger

>>52276376
Still just an UC Monk.

>>52276376
>league of autism

Jump off a bridge

>>52276331
What about Divine Hunter?

>>52276372
I don't get it.

>>52276376
>Log of Leaguens
Please leave.

>>52276409
Steel is heavier than feathers

>>52276398
>zed
>edgy
I hate this meme

>>52276415
I STILL don't get it anon.

>>52276426
They're the same weight

>>52276435
Anon I'm dense, give it to me straight. What does this mean?

>>52276455
They're both a kilogram

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>>52276361
I actually managed to make this fellow. Turned out nicely. One Touch+ki channeling weapons.

>>52276459
You're not making a lick of sense to me. Is it a reference to having sex with Varilia or whatever her name was?

>>52276469
Is there a way to make monk weapons useful?

>>52276418
>"No technique is forbidden."
>"Balance is a fool's master."
>"Secrets kept are weapons wasted."
>"The shadows have enlightened me."
>"Balance is weakness."
>"The truth lies in darkness."
>"Tradition is the corpse of wisdom."
>"What I have done... cannot be undone."
>"Only the worthy will survive."
>"I am the blade in the darkness."
>"Cut the last breath from them."
>"The shadow is within."
>"Punish restraint."
>"Do not deny me."
>"They follow the wrong master."
>"None escape their shadow."
>"Ignorance is fatal."
Oh yeah. Zed's not edgy.

>>52276124
>>52276160
So in our game's canon Hitler became a Counter Force agent who fought South American rebels for a while. Also the Third Reich was in a secret war with The Clocktower for occult supremacy in Europe.

>>52276254
Casimir. He seems like he'd be good company.

SOM PLAYTEST NEVER

>>52276518
SoM playtest is the new PoW errata.

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>>52276505

>So in our game's canon Hitler became a Counter Force agent who fought South American rebels for a while. Also the Third Reich was in a secret war with The Clocktower for occult supremacy in Europe.

>mfw

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>>52276496

To be fair, it's pretty difficult to take any of the "edgy" characters seriously when they're up against something like pic related.

>>52276488
Give them to a brawler.

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>>52276538
When?

>>52276488
Ascetic Style on a UC Monk

>>52276496
Not all of those are edgy. hell some of them are even good pieces of advice.

*splat*

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Reminder that Shalelu is a better waifu the Valeriya!

>>52276496
>"Tradition is the corpse of wisdom."
>"Ignorance is fatal."
Seem like good pieces of advice.

>>52276596
>>52276552
He literally says "The shadows have enlightened me." If that's not edgy then I don't know what is.

>>52276254

>tfw your characters are never memed except as jokes

It makes me want to quit desu.

>>52276409

I think he's saying he wants to fuck Valeriya in the ass.

>>52276630
>open box
>learn shit from said box
>its edgy

His design may be edgy but he as a character is not edgy.

>>52276254
Which meme character is the least date able?

>>52276684
Oh, that makes sense. Velariya seems like a nice lady. Why would one wish to booty-bludgeon her?

>>52276651

At least people like jokes, anon.

>>52276292
>>52276297
Even though it's "not full sneak attack", I'm probably going to end up just going Slayer or something at this rate. It just hurts, because URogue DOES have a few cool things, they just don't outweigh how much it doesn't actually fix most of the really shitty things about it. (needs a billion feats to make use of ANYTHING and yet still can't move+full attack, has garbage saves, alright at skills but still massively overshadowed by Investigator)

>Investigator
I would have just done that, but I'm kind of tired of building nothing but Intfags with +Int races, hence not wanting to be an Alchemist again.

>>52276334
Being an Alchemyfag is a special kind of hell, man.

>>52276693
His character is what he says. There's no Zed novel, the only information we have other than what he does in game is that he murdered his adoptive father because he's corrupted by shadows. Which, again, is edgy as fuck.

So his backstory is edgy and his lines sound like they were written by Grand King Chuuni. He's an edgelord.

>>52276496
>>"Secrets kept are weapons wasted."

I don't know why I love this one line so much but I do, every time I hear it.

>>52276717

I assume it has to do with Valeriya supposedly having an amazing ass, and the thrill of such a forbidden hole being used for pleasure on such a proper lady is very appealing to some people.

>>52276624
Objectively false

>>52276772
Practiced Sneak Attack can be taken with a Slayer Talent and a Feat, to boost it to acceptable levels without impacting either one too strenuously..

>>52276772
Take a look at the Hidden Blade archetype for Rogue from the PoW books.

It lets you get brief invisibility starting at level 1 so you don't have to fuck around with the confusing stealth rules

>>52276715
Ricktor Watt

>>52276717
Guess I'll have to look elsehwere. Now, that Vilderavn girl, she's got an amazing ass, and it's obvious she loves to use it like a proper buttslut.

>>52276777
>>52276693
There's also the fact that, in game when fighting against Shen, he will constantly mock and taunt him about how protecting people is pointless, and how Shen can never hope to be able to save anyone, much less himself

>>52276510

>You will never have Casimir as an uncle

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>>52276844

Hardly manners befitting a gentleman.

>>52276715
Seht since he's already engaged to somebody.

>>52276835

>Vilderavn is a buttslut
>Valeriya is a proper lady that only expects missionary

Anon pls

>>52276796
>Says it's objectively false
>Doesn't elaborate

You think I'm kidding or something?

>GM: Stats are capped at 20. For balance reasons because in 5e a group of orcs at high level can kill you while in pathfinder a group of orcs at high level literally can't hurt you
How do I explain to the GM that the discrepancies between pathfinder and 5e power levels is not because of the barbarian having 21 base strength.

>>52276922
Explain the difference between advantage and disadvantage, compared to circumstance bonuses/penalties.

>>52276874
>Ask Valeriya for anal
>She takes a while to think about it, then excuses herself
>Comes back in Vilderavn's mask/helm, in character, demanding you take her ass like an Ulfen plundering a Chelish port

>>52276922
You roll a wizard.

>>52276715
Rory.

>>52276572
>Playtest should go out to backers sometime today; open playtest will follow shortly thereafter.
From the GitP thread.

>>52276777
Zed, Shen and Kusho worked to discover and capture Jhin Khada Jhin for his brutal murders. All three of them were severely traumatized during the investigation and, when they finally caught the 'Golden Demon', Kusho spared his life. Zed couldn't believe such a monster was offered mercy, finding himself question his master's teachings to the point of heavily resenting him and ultimately murdering him.

>>52276832
>Hidden Blade

Anon, this is for a mostly 1pp-only group.

>>52276811
Accomplished Sneak Attacker, you mean? I guess that's true, but that comes back to "oh boy I can't wait to get my feats taxed to fuck".

>>52276955
I'm going to TALK to him, not run a intentionally disruptive character like an immature twat.

>>52276976
Create an example wizard sheet.

>>52276922
Point him at a CR 20 monster entry, ask him to add up the extra attack bonus needed to hit it with BAB +20 and only Strength 20.

>>52276922
Leave the group and don't bother wasting your time to an idiot.

>>52276940
>>52276874
Are these two the same person, like with Vigilante?

Aside from broken blade, what other disciplines have maneuvers and stances that work with natural attacks?

>>52277027
I'm going to talk to him about my concerns with evidence to back it up. Not just avoiding the problem all together

>>52277040
I think Fool's Errand (just a playtest doc so far) might.

>>52277037

Yes, Valeriya is a mature responsible young woman and the Vilderavn is her hardcore badass alter ego.

>>52277040
Primal Fury has a few things

>>52277037
Of course not, why would you think that?
Yes.

>>52277049
Sweeten the experience by leaving the group after convincing him and tell him that you don't want to game with a GM whose hand you have to hold every step of the way.

>>52277049
Show him an entry for a CR 20 monster, show him the DCs of a level 20 wizard with Int 20, point out that it's impossible for the monster to fail any saves at all.

>>52277009
A roll of 15 or so. Get a +5 weapon. Maybe Weapon Focus. If it's a Fighter, weapon training is at +6 because you're not retarded and have Gloves of Dueling.

That's +37 to hit, so about 75% chance to hit a CR21 creature.

>>52277079
Why is PoW so difficult to use with natural attacks? Do I have to be a good cuck and take weapon group adaptation to get anything to work with it at all?

>>52277140
Many disciplines aren't super strict with discipline weapons.

>>52277040
Chimera Soul, but that's still in playtest.

>>52277154
I am confused. Whats the point of associated weapons then? How can I tell if a discipline is compatible with a non associated weapon group?

>>52277140
I mean primal fury works great with natural weapons.

>>52276922
Show him a Pit Fiend, an iconic CR 20 creature.

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/outsiders/devil/pit-fiend/

Now lets take a level 20 fighter with 20 strength. He was Weapon Training and a +5 weapon. Let's say he even has haste.

His bonus to hit is +35/35/30/25/20

So he has a percentage chance to hit of 90/90/65/40/15

Now looks fine, he's probably gonna hit. The issue is Damage. His damage is gonna be, with a great sword:
2d6+18(power attack)+7(strength)+5(weapon)+4(weapon training) or 2d6+34.

A Pit Fiend has 350 HP. This means on average it will take the fighter 8.5 successful attacks to kill the Pit Fiend.

Or nearly 3 full attacks on average of just slugging the Pit Fiend.

Meanwhile a Wizard still using Mindscape and beats the Pit Fiend in 1 spell.

>>52277049
Show him one creature and how it's started out for 5e and for pathfinder. Show him that the pathfinder monsters have a higher everything in comparison to 5e monsters.

Besides the three PoW books, Lords of the Night and the Lords of the Wild playtest where else can I find other disciplines?

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>>52275546
>the DM is running a second game explicitly because he knows 2hu is going to destroy the first one
Hoo boy, good thing that you're here to tell me my motivations and speak on my behalf here because for a moment I thought that I was making a second game because I loved so many of the character concepts and wanted to run for more of them. Dodged a bullet there, thank god for you.

>>52275440
>Okay, GM has officially given his word on this and said that it wasn't 2hu's fault. But...
>But...
See this? I don't get this, are you saying that the GM is a liar? That perhaps he's being blackmailed somehow? That he's afraid of the backlash of blaming someone unpopular for a bad thing?

>>52277128
Now do the same with any 3/4 BAB class.

>>52277189
Oh, and Fools Errand

>>52277170
Associated Weapons only matter with a handful of disciplines (such as Solar Wind); otherwise, all they do is grant a +2 bonus to the DCs of maneuvers that have them. A lot of maneuvers don't ask for DCs, so using an associated weapon isn't necessary.

>>52277170
You get a bonus to save DCs (if any) if you use a discipline weapon, and some maneuvers specifically require discipline weapons or particular weapon types.

>>52277128
>If it's a Fighter, weapon training is at +6 because you're not retarded
One class out of how many martials?
Also power attack?
Full attacks?

>>52277170
By default, the only bonus to using a discipline weapon is that it raises the DC's of maneuvers by 2. Some disciplines and maneuvers will tell you they only work with certain weapons.

Scarlet Throne's Einhander stance requires a 1-handed weapon, for example.

>>52276922
How do you get people as stupid as this GM that just default to the assumption that math is consistent between games?

>>52277190
Are you the guy who accepted a challenge to GM a game for 2hu or is that someone else?

>>52277203
It works for Magus, Warpriest, Alchemist, and any other 3/4 bab class witrh 6th level casting.

And that's the ultimate issue, isn't it?

As far as I am concerned, Unchained Rogue should have been full BAB. It literally couldn't harm the class or the game any.

>>52276922
Show him what high level characters are expected to be capable of?

Explain to him the concept of "bounded accuracy"

>>52277218
>>52277222
>>52277229
Sorry, I've only started learning Path of war. So what you guys are telling me is. I can use any sort of weapon with any maneuver, stance or boost as long as it doesnt have a clause that goes along the lines of "you need to use it with a spear".

>>52277269
Correct.

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>>52277037
>Are these two the same person, like with Vigilante?

Val? A vigilante?

That'd be fuckin' hilarious!

Can you imagine Ms. Responsible putting on a silly costume, scampering about on rooftops, and murdering criminals? Because I certainly can't. Gods... I'm gonna have to tell her about this...

>>52277203
Ok. Let's go with Investigator because he's actually decent in melee.

5 (Str) + 15 (BAB) + 10 (Studied) + 2-16 (Greater Combat Inspiration + Amazing Inspiration).

So anywhere between +32 to +46 to hit, with an average of +39 given you can roll the 2d8 twice with Tenacious Inspiration.

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>>52277246
>accepted a challenge
What does that even mean? Like, one night I was sat around one night and someone dared me to?

Is it worth making a cavalier if I think the campaign is going to be dungeon heavy, where I can't ride my mount?

>>52277312
Just be small sized and ride a wolf

Is it worth making a cavalier if I think the campaign is going to be dungeon heavy, where I can't ride my mount?

I feel like I could make a fighter with the same flavor.

>>52277295
Yes

>>52277276
Is there some sort of ruling that I can provide as reference? My group is just as new to this as I am and would likely ask for proofs.

>>52277295

Why else would you accept an asshole?

>>52277189
Anybody? Any other disciplines hiding out there besides Fools Errand?

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>>52277312
People underestimate the fun that can be had for being allowed to ride an animal anywhere you want. Go nuts and play some sort of small race with a medium mount.

>>52277295
>Like, one night I was sat around one night and someone dared me to?

Yes, that's exactly what I mean, but apparently it was not you.

>>52277374
Is that a goblin paladin
That's amazing

>>52277190
>>52277295
As someone with an app in the game, can I ask when 2hu's character will be posted so that we can see what he's doing?

>>52277280

Valeriya is a killer! A KILLER!

>>52277295
Negativity aside.. how long do you think it'll take you to review after the end date?
And care to give any hints as to who's going where?
Also, any notes on anyone who's character needs work?

>>52277390

I hate Goblin Paladins.

It's as cringy as a Kobold Paladin.

>>52277353
Just read the damn text, man.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/systems-and-use/

>Maneuvers performed with a favored weapon for the martial abilities’ discipline gain a +2 competence bonus to the DC of the maneuver initiated (if applicable).

>>52277295
I would like to also agree with >>52277391 ; I really would rather like to modify my character if it turns out I'd be filling the same niche but worse compared to 2hu's character.

>>52277412
>not wanting to lay on hands with the kobold paladin cutie

>>52277412
Or a tiefling paladin?

>>52277391
Seconding this. I actually don't mind 2hu, but it would be nice to know something about the character I might be playing with.

>>52277431

Kobolds are kind of ugly, anon. There's a reason the "cute" ones are hyper-cartoonish.

>>52276907
It's pretty obvious, anon. One is a top tier waifu destined to marry /pfg/'s most eligable daddy, while the other is a trash elf that had to get a boob job to attract the slightest attentions of the PC who isn't lucky enough to end up with Ameiko or Koya.

>>52277390
It's a goblin cavalier, not paladin.

>>52277374
WHY THE FUCK IS IT RIDING A DOG

>>52277417
I also want to know the tone of the character, it isn't purely about mechanics (though that is a factor). I also think it's an issue of fairness.

>>52277176
>Show him a Pit Fiend, an iconic CR 20 creature.
Well, first the pit fiend only has 20 str, 20 dex, 20 con, 20 int, 20 wis, and 20 cha, so its fort, ref and will are much less!

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>>52277467
>daddy
Oh look, it's this asshole again.

>>52277476
Because Doggos are medium sized?

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>>52277412
Eh, I'll give you Goblin Paladins, since not only do they have the worst stats for it, but are innately Chaotic dickbags.

However, Kobolds are highly lawful by nature. And since they tend to be super devoted to Dragons, its not too much of a stretch to imagine a Metallic taking a tribe or individual in and training and indoctrinating them to put their highly lawful and and communal natures to good use and pursuing the selfless path of Paladinhood.
Heck, the only reason why I'd advise against one is becuase Kobolds have the absolute worst stats to build any kind of martial combatant

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>>52277443
>not liking 2d

>>52277496
Goblins are a deep seeded racial hatred for dogs because they make goblins physically ill. That's why goblin dogs exist.

>>52277481
Never said anything about capping monster stats. Monster stats aren't capped in 5e either.

>>52277394
Yeah, and Ameiko's a princess, and I'm secretly Asmodeus is disguise.

Fun theories, but I wouldn't take 'em seriously.

>>52277537
Maybe he is a level 3+ goblin paladin then?

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>>52277443
>Fictional, reptilian creatures are "kind of ugly"
>all reptiles are ugly

that sounds pretty fuckin' racist, famalam

>>52277568
Hi there Asmodeus, how's things in Hell?

>>52277537

It's possible that they're not using Pathfinder goblins.

>>52277524
Is that kobold wearing lipstick?

>>52277568

Ameiko is not a princess.

She's an EMPRESS!

>>52277495
>He doesn't like the daddy meme

>>52277587
Its a reptile with tits talking to Walter White, I don't think its supposed to make any sense.

>>52277610
I don't see any actual tits there, just a chest wrap.

>>52277587
No, it's part of her scale pattern.

>>52277577
Hot. Pls send Beer.

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>>52277607
>still forcing the daddy meme

>>52277587

It's so she can leave a lipstick trail on his dick when she blows him.

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>>52277344
>>52277354
>>52277379
Well I suppose I walked into that one. In all seriousness, being a fellow raging autist I find him to be an interesting person who I can relate to. Plus I'm endlessly entertained by his characters, mostly unironically at that.

>>52277417
>>52277391
Soon? I mean he's got the same deadline as everyone else so within 26 hours at least. However I can reveal that he's playing an int based avowed focusing on having skills and shooting lasers at his problems.

>>52277407
There are a lot of people with obviously incomplete profiles, they obviously need to be finished from a story standpoint before the deadline. I can't imagine it'll be more than a day before both groups are announced after the cut off date. Depending on submissions between now and then and how things change I might even announce when the cut-off happens. If anyone specifically wants notes, they can certainly ask me and I'll provide what insight I can.

>>52277629
>int based
>focusing on having skills
shock. why did you people even have to ask i wonder? is he a trap maid working in the cafe? he is, isn't.

How do I homeless philospher without being a full caster of any kind? I was gonna be an Enlightened Philosophers, but I can't because of Hell's Rebel's rules! I'm in full panic mode.

Maybe I'll just play a Hunter or something since that kinda works for dirty nature homeless, but is too fighty focused.

Do any classes have philosophers theme'd archetypes besides Oracle?

>>52277665
Lore Warden...?

>>52277639

He'll be a daddy by the start of Jade Regent!

>>52277665
Just play a monk or something WIS based and roleplay your hipster philosophy.

>>52277691
Sorta works I suppose, but still not really philosophy so much as just knowledge related. Also it won't help me be homeless.

>>52277656
He's using the newest version, right? The one that has the various skillbuff options reduced to a handful of knowledges instead of all of them, reduced the bonus to +2 instead of +6, that new one?

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>>52277661
is referring to
>>52277656

And he might be working in a maid cafe, any number of characters might be working in a maid cafe. The game is a mystery and only time will tell.

>>52277715
How do you need help to be homeless? you just... do it

>>52277436

Non-evil tieflings tend to hate evil outsiders.

Paladins are the best at killing evil outsiders.

Ipso facto, paladin is a very sensible job choice for non-evil tiefling adventurers.

>>52277665

Play a Bard (Negotiator), you get bonuses to Oratory and can even argue people into logic loops.

>>52277702
Monk may work actually.

Is there any way for a monk to get an animal companion besides VMC?

>>52277697
Wait, I thought we were talking about Casimir and Valeriya, not Seht and Shayliss?

>>52277733
Being homeless is basically a super power.

>>52277749
Buy a mundane bird, call it your spirit animal, try to eat it when high.

>>52277504
Kobolds also ride weasels in 3.5e - a Paladin with a Celestial Giant Ferret mount is super neat to imagine.

>>52277665
You the guy who wanted to be Diogenes?
Spirit Warden Ranger gives you a class ability that is literally "Always be comfy and have the resources you need while in the wilds"

After that, all you need to do is fap in a theater, and shittalk other philosophers in the most contrarian asshole way

>>52277765

DELETE THIS

>>52277665
Unchained monk. Any number of psychic classes.

>>52277765

Lots can happen in two years, which is the timeskip between RotRL and JR!

>>52277656
You've said 2hu was important in developing the game. Does that mean he has knowledge concerning the events and the characters that other players won't have? Will his input continue to be used as the game develops, even with him serving as a player? If so, do you think that represents a conflict of interest?

>>52277140
>if you have to compromise with anyone or anything you're a cuck
That is incredibly telling. The term "cuck" is literally the embodiment of manbaby entitlement.

>>52277721
Foreboding

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>>52277821
Too late to stop it.

>>52277817
Fucking perfect.

Might try and get a magic lantern too.

>>52277768
The animal companion is for a dog. For a chicken just buying one and calling it a familiar sounds great.

>>52277824
Unchained Monk is nice.

Alright, lets stop Witchhunting LiterallyCan'tEvenDM, and instead do something constructive! Speculate wildly on who's getting into Hell's Rebels!

All picks are ignoring 2hu, because I know nothing about what they're bringing. I also don't really care.

Player Picks (in order):
1.Estelle - Blinkling Medic; a punchgirl, a doggo meme, and the only potential healer in the pool. Character isn't half-bad either
2.Winston - Human Investigator/Vigilante; The GM has said how much they like the concept, the character is a good foil (both mechanically and fluff-wise), and they're one of the few complete and decent male apps.
3.Noel - Human Bard/Vigilante; This one was tough. Metlee, Noel, and NewHana are all strong apps; but I'm gonna go with my gut, and say Noel is going to win out in the end.
4.Sophia - Aasimar Warlord; The party has skills and buffing pretty well covered, but they're in need of a solid frontliner. Removing the incomplete apps, that only gives us a couple candidates, of which, Sophia is probably the most fleshed out and well-written.
5.Coin Flip between Metlee and Hana; they're the strongest apps, and if the GM gives the party time to adjust builds, there are ways to make multiple bards work.
6._____DOUG______; He is an ascended being that yearns only for power. He is the alpha and the omega, he is the morning and the evening star. HE IS HERE! Hello, I would like to play.

>>52277850
The term cuck has literally just devolved into another word for fag.

>>52277656
Well, at least we know who 2hushill is now. The one person who rabidly defends him is a fellow autist.

>>52277869
You can buy dogs can't you?

>>52277883
You're not wrong, but the use of cuck in place of fag is usually a sign of a specific group of people.

>>52277879
That's my list too, except I haven't looked at new Hana so the 5th slot was just Metlee.

Disappointed that there weren't more real male apps. I like the concept behind a few of the jokes that didn't follow through.

>>52277899
Unfortunately I don't want the dog to die and purchased dogs die to literally everything.

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>>52277890
Oh boy, it's that time again isn't it?

>>52277879
>Witchhunting
I like how this once meant something, but is now just a term that is bandied about when someone can't answer questions over genuine concerns, because they're afraid of what the reaction to those answers will be.

>>52277943
Stop using them for combat once they start becoming a drag?

Thats what I do to heavy draft horses which are quite powerful for the first few levels.

>>52277962
>I like how this once meant something, but is now just a term that is bandied about when someone can't answer questions over genuine concerns

If they were "genuine concerns" that you actually wanted answers to, then you wouldn't be posting them here. That's what the Roll20 page is for.

/pfg/ is just being /pfg/ and looking for a reason to screech autistically.

You're free to do it, but don't delude yourself into thinking it has some purpose.

>>52277836
>TFW Casimir and Valeriya stay behind in Sandpoint because they have children instead of embarking on the journey to Minkai with the group

Aside from the Core Rulebook, game mastee guide, and some bestiaries, is there any material that is basically a must-have for pathfinder? This is for a group that has a lot of experience with tabletop games, but wants to give pathfinder a shot finally.

>>52277924
Usually, people who start point fingers and accusing others of being part of an "evil group" is often part of that one other group that is just as distasteful.

>>52278028
Spheres of Power and Path of War third-party books.

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>>52277841
Everything we discussed was more related to running games in a general sense and helping me get things together, we have discussed very little of the plot other than how it pertains to his character's background. He has read some of Book 1 though, as have most people who GM games for Pathfinder.
>>52277852
I know right? The question is, will both games have maid cafes? Just one? Will it even be the one with him in it? Such excitement.
>>52277716
Yes
>>52277879
Interesting picks.
>>52277890
Your conspiracy theories are equal parts adorable and pathetic... or maybe it's because they're pathetic that they're adorable? This is a deep question regarding the depths of Moe that I need to consider.

>>52278024
So tell me, are you the same guy that started the first batch of raunchy apps?

>>52278039
I didn't say "evil group", I said specific group.

>>52278059
Nope.

I'm ReviewAnon2. I did most of DragonGame 2 after my predecessor burned themself out.

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>>52278025
>MFW FotJR gets the lead out and becomes true heroes
>MFW SotJR gets bogged down on relationship drama
>MFW /pfg/ is still going "b-but muh daddy meems"
>MFW both groups crash and burn

>>52278025

Seht and Shayliss are going to have the same problem!

>Casimir carves a white rocking horse for Seht's first kid

>>52277970
>Stop using them for combat once they start becoming a drag?

The game starts at level 5, purchased dogs are a detriment starting level 2.

>tfw want to talk about Pissing Lizard Dicks
>can't do it because of so much shit posting
>even if all I want to discuss is the homebrew elements and potential feats

Is there a /pfg/ discord?

>>52278078
Remind me again why you think you're important enough to have a name when all you did was ride some other Anon's coattails?

>>52278028
Advanced Players Guide
Ultimate Magic
Ultimate Combat
Advanced Race Guide
PAthfinder Unchained
Weapon Master's Handbook
Armormaster's Handbook
A million other Splats

Spheres of Magic third party rule system

Luckily for you, everything for Pathfinder is completely free online on either d20pfsrd.com, archiveofnethys, and I think there's a new wikidot SRD as well.

So you don't have to spend a dime, which is good since Paizo does not deserve your money

>>52278024
I post them here because I wish to remain anonymous. To be blunt, I am suspicious of the GM's ability to remain impartial where 2hu is concerned. These are questions anyone interested in the game should be asking.

>>52278051
That seems reasonable. I have my doubt over 2hu's ability not to read something related to Pathfinder, but I have no choice but to take this at face value.

Will you continue to rely on him as the game progresses? Can I ask which version of Avowed he is using?

>>52278093
Shitposters will shitpost either way, just talk about what the fuck you want to talk about and ignore the posts that aren't relevant to you. Golly.

>>52278093
If only there was a separate forum, on a separate website completely dedicated to Pickling Lucky Ducks, where you could discuss free from shitposting...

>>52278098
https://discord.gg/Uyupd9x

>>52278125
okay then. I'll humor your experiment

Does anyone think the Campaign Traits are interbalanced correctly?
Campaign Traits (If you took the Loan option, you may take one of these traits for free)
Blessed by Iono : When making a save vs corruption, you may add your CHA modifier.
Blessed by Roma : Your natural and unarmed attacks count as though they were Moonsilver.
Blessed by Shepherd : Every round that you have less than 1 hit point and are not stable, remove Corruption points equal to your level.
Blessed by Zyke : Whenever you have at least one point of Corruption, you have the Scent ability and can sense other sources of corruption within 30'
Blessed by Undyne : For every five minutes bathing in otherwise pure water, remove 1 point of corruption. Anyone who drinks this water gains that corruption.
Blessed by Titania : You may choose to assume your Night Form during the day for a number of rounds equal to your level.

>>52278131
Somebody should put that in the OP. I keep seeing DMs mention it but nobody links to it.

>>52278051 Including you, actually.

>>52278112
From whence the hostility councilor?

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>>52278085
>dat spoiler
pls

>>52278142
Whats this from again?

>>52278199
Placid Lettuce Dealers

>>52278199
Pain, Lust, and Dicks

>>52278142
I think its perfectly balanced. Although the roma one should probably be given out for free to shit like monks.

>>52278119
I will probably ask for his advice now and again on mechanical matters, nothing that will spoil the story. Literally all we have discussed involving the story is his own backstory and his family members. This isn't because I don't trust him to not metagame, but because I don't intend to spoil the plot for any of my players, it's less fun that way.

Let me be frank here, if me flat out saying that I don't intend to let him disrupt the game any more than I would any other player isn't enough for you then nothing ever will be. If you're going to be worried about it all game and it's going to spoil the experience for you then save yourself the stress. If you're willing to trust my word however, then everything is fine.

>>52278199
Paula Deen's Library

>>52278236
Paula "Lard" Deen

>>52278142
The Shepherd seems like it's pretty abusable.

>>52278049
Can you give me a basic summary about those two? I did a tiny bit of research so far, but I like hearing experienced opinions. Thank you by the way!

>>52278117
Oh that's a lot, but since it's all free this is very helpful!

>>52278199
Pinkos Lick my Dong

>>52278252
Come on now, the obvious one is:

Pinkos Lick Dongs

>>52278249
SoP: At will magic effects with a mana pool for powerful effects, instead of Pathfinder's weird vancian stuff

PoW: Warriors that can do a variety of different things every turn instead of "roll to hit" "roll damage" over and over

>>52278093

People are withdrawing their apps from Punitive Lawyer Dreck.

Vult is blowing up at randos on discord

HE'S SELF DESTRUCTING!


Is that the discussion you wanted?

>>52278248
I bet you think you're stuck with Corruption, don't you?

>>52278142
Blessed by Iono should just be a flat modifier, +2 probably based on how these traits usually work, but I don't know what the DM has in mind in regards to how often you'll roll corruption. It's narrow as a CHA modifier, and if it's useful at all, might be way too useful in the right builds. Interesting to note is that a CHA dumper can use it to nudge their own roll down.

Roma is fine. I'd say necessary to open up options in a game like this.

Shepherd seems weak but I don't know how the game will play out in practice, it might actually turn out great. I feel like it should remove corruption in your sleep as well.

Scent is great when it works, and I'd wager you'll always have one point of corruption if you're smart about it. Might be too strong, but situation enough that I'm not certain.

The Undyne trait is weird but I like it. Realistically, if you can afford to take a long bath you can probably qualify for a full day rest which removes all corruption. The whole corrupting people with water thing leans it preeeetty evil, but I'm sure there's productive use of that for a creative good character somehow. Also semi-justified anime bath scenes.

I don't know what the Night Form entails, but Titania is pretty busted if it's an imitation Rage. I really can't imagine any way it's not busted short of purely being a roleplay trait.

>>52278249
>Oh that's a lot, but since it's all free this is very helpful!
Tell me anon, did your group ever play 3.5e D&D back in the day?
Well, Pathfinder is essentially the same, with it poor initial game balance, and over glut of content half of which is pointlessly trash.

You have been warned. You may still have fun, and your group may avoid most of the issues, but its still something to keep in mind