JumpChain CYOA Thread #1398: Tragic Reminder Edition

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did you woo anyone in a gundam jump /jc/?

>>52265751
Most girls in gundam are taken, prostitutes, dead, or some combination of the three.

>>52265751
I reenacted a hentai doujin I liked. [/slutjumper]

Does that count?

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>>52265751
hell yeah

Domon Kasshu and George De Sand (Well, kinda. More like he woo'd me.)

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WIP User and Drop-in need 2 perks

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rg_ebCDDrdFhHW-y5PtYWRCJMXrF3i1fSl9Mmm8FTn0/edit?usp=sharing

>>52265751
I just used my powers to mind control them, then had them form a naked dance line in the cafeteria of the ship.

>>52265788
Which Doujin?

>>52265921
Some mind control one. I forget the name. It opened with a bitchy supervisor i think?

>>52265751
"woo" might be the wrong word.

Tonya & Enil (Both seperate and simultaneously) in Gundam X (Via Mobile Jump Gundam)

Nobody piqued my interest in AGE

Juri Wu Nien and Lacus Clyne (Seperately) in SEED

Lady Une and Relena in Wing (Seperate, then Simultaneously)

Sumeragi in 00

Rinko in Build Fighters

I turned UC into 00 by going through the Laplace's Victory scenario and re-creating Celestial Being, so the place and cast really wasn't recognizable.

And if we ever get an IBO jump, I've got my sights on Lafter Frankland.

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So, when/if Samurai Jack is updated, how will it handle the new season? Will there be a continuity/time extension drawback, or are there plans for another jump entirely?

is there a good way to get time to go by even faster in SCP-2400? Like putting the door on the outside into a bubble that decelerates time?

Also: Is there a good perk/ability/ect to design an ecosystem inside of SCP-2400? It would be really useful to have a place to grow supplies.

>>52265991
Just make your own.
Then you can be certain they nest or whatever.

>>52265991
shit, accelerate time. Not decelerate

>>52265991
Clock of Ages from Narnia

>>52265991
Literally, there are dozens of magic systems which allow for custom spells that can put SCP-2400 to shame. There's also Anartist, which could probably allow you to make something with a larger time compression ratio.

>>52265985
So far, IMO, it doesn't seem like there's enough stuff to warrant a whole new jump. Especially since the whole 50 year time skip can be solved with jumper intervention.

So depending on what else happens I may add some more items and abilities.

For wizard jumpers, what did you choose for Master of the Arcane in Skyrim?

>>52266056
However if someone wants to make a jump set during season 5 I wouldn't be opposed to it.

>>52266047
like? literally the only option that I know of is Genesis out of D&D, and that is too small for what I want to do

>>52266056
If you resurrect someone you've killed, can you still call upon them with Summon?

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>>52265751
No. It's unfortunate, but she already has a husbando.

how powerful are the gods in smite? are they at mythic levels or just game levels?

>>52266072
conjuration since I used it a lot in game

>>52265991
Stick it in a hyperbolic time chamber, and while inside open up an instant dungeon with as high a time multiplier as you can use.

>>52265985
How much later in time is the new season?
Is there a time skip, or does it fit in the ten year window?

>>52265991
>Like putting the door on the outside into a bubble that decelerates time?
That is one way to do it. Another is to speed up time in an area within the SCP. Like build a structure inside, and enchant it or several rooms inside with Haste from D&D so with the door closed, twice as fast relative to the rest of the plane translates to 280 time as fast as the setting world.

>Is there a good perk/ability/ect to design an ecosystem inside of SCP-2400?
There are many many ways. If you have the tech skills make recycling Bio domes. A little magic really lets oyu cheat here.

Or just choose SCP-2400 as your Dimension with Dimension Lord from DC Occult, and magic up a living world by thinking about it. (The green from the same jump could also do a lot of this.)

>>52266072
None. I prefer not to purchase skills up-front. However, if I did, it would be either Mysticism or Alteration.

>>52265908
The ability to force people into games.

>>52266136
>Or just choose SCP-2400 as your Dimension with Dimension Lord from DC Occult

wait, you can choose that? I didn't think that it would count, for some reason

>>52266072
Alteration, because choosing something other than Alteration or Conjuration is objectively wrong and there are perks specifically for Conjuration in the Morroblivion jump.

>>52266103
Well, no. Summon works by trapping your victims souls/essence and resurrection would negate that.

...Is remiu a good waifu?

>>52266103
That is a fan wank thing. Do you think you are literally summoning them, bringing them back to life (only to kill them again when dismissed) or are you just using their death to make a summoning template your magic takes advantage of. I assume the latter.
Especially since I have been assuming it works on stuff like Killer Robots and stuff.

>>52266161
It reads like a really large (possibly infinite on some of the axis since the survey team could not find an end) pocket dimension.

>>52266136
The time skip is fifty years in the future.

>>52266186
Not him but shit, that ruins my plans to have someone fight themselves.

>>52266186
Can you use the souls for other things then, if you have something that can interact with souls?

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>>52265991
Skip the middle man and make yourself a hyperbolic time pocket dimension with D&D magic.
Genesis is a very strong for this since planar traits can get really stupid. If you have the patience to set it up right first you can get results of years inside to seconds outside. It's full Narnia mode.

Of course actually casting genesis repeatedly to get it at a usable size is tedious and draining. However Simalcrums or Spellclocks can do all the busy work for you and save you the trouble.

>>52266255
No.

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Jumpers, have you ever been the final boss?

>>52266186
>Summon works by trapping your victims souls/essence and resurrection would negate that.
Was the mechanism ever detailed in the show?

>>52266307
Yes. But going by the show, this statement >>52266272 should be false.

http://samuraijack.wikia.com/wiki/Demongo

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...So I played this game again, and ended up not being able to get it out of my head.

Progress on DM - The Heroes will hopefully continue once this is done.

Is Disu around?

>>52266196
She's a lazy irresponsible slob who likes to violently attack anyone that bothers her. She also utterly despises the idea of humans bettering themselves and achieving any kind of power to protect themselves from youkai, and slaughters those who try. Does this sound like your type?

>>52266186
So, can you eventually summon more than one per day, or does it only have some canon properties?

>>52266280
I don't try to die.

>>52266398
Sounds like me really.

>>52266280
Why settle for something less than bonus boss territory?
Make people have to work for the chance to fight you so it's never a waste of time beating some scrub into the dirt.

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>>52266359
Yeah, I'm here

>Disu
Obligatory response.

>>52266413
Humanphobe.

>>52266420
Hi

>>52266398
>She's a lazy irresponsible slob who likes to violently attack anyone that bothers her
A little bit, yeah. Not so much the violence though.

>She also utterly despises the idea of humans bettering themselves and achieving any kind of power to protect themselves from youkai, and slaughters those who try.
Wat.

>>52266438
Greetings!

>>52266272
Why not? Because otherwise, it sounds like a massive trap option for anyone who takes something dealing with souls and kills someone, either on purpose or on accident.

>>52266398
>that last part
...what.

>>52266445
Humans who achieve powers inevitably become some kind of youkai. It's how it works. Reimu brutally enforces her view that this can't be allowed to happen, and so kills all humans who achieve it. Most of the formerly human youkai that are around achieved that status before Reimu was the shrine maiden.

>>52266484
What about Marisa? Isn't that what she did, and aren't they friends?

>>52266484
Huh. Okay then.

Secondary canon and or lots of bitchslaps? I want a shrine maiden type companion and she's the only one that comes to mind.

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>>52266196
Depends on what you're looking for. This is kind of a hard question to answer. What made you consider?

The rabbit is infinitely superior, however.
>>52266445
Ssssort of. Recent events in the Touhou manga showed a man who had exploited a loophole to change himself into a youkai. He then said he planned to fuck off to the mountains and live in peace, and Reimu straight up murdered him. Reason being a human changing into a youkai and upsetting the status quo in any way was effectively a sin in Gensokyo.

I've given up on trying to rationalize morality in Gensokyo at this point, so judge this one for yourself. Its dependent on really fucked up metaphysics, anyhow.

I don't feel like I'm in a position to judge considering I throw celestial objects around like beachballs and use magic on random bystanders to sate my boredom, so I can't really comment.
>>52266484
Magicians aren't youkai per se. Marisa herself is human. Currently. She's hinted a few times she'd make a jump for immortality if given the chance, I think.

>>52266484
So is this canon or fanon?

>>52266318
Huh. Yeah, it looks like he can use the souls as sources of power and summon with them.
So you should be able to Hellsing a soul and still have it summoned.

>>52266280
No, but I'm only on Jump 20 and my goal is to take over the multiverse, so it's going to happen eventually.

>>52266445
>>52266461
Reimu kills the shit out of a man who became a youkai and just wanted to live his life afterwards. Sure the way he did it was dickish, but it was hardly necessary.
Trying to change the balance of gensokyo by working to improve yourself as a human inevitably ends up making them youkai. If Reimu didn't put people that tried down then Gensokyo would collapse under the weight of everyone doing it. If humans aren't around to do their thing then it doesn't function and everyone dies.

>>52266502
They are. For now. Marisa hasn't gone through with the being a magician(species) thing yet. This is probably one of the reasons why.

>>52266512
Try Pocky and Rocky. Sayo is actually nice.
Alternatively secondary canon away the parts of Gensokyo that suck or don't make sense. That's what a lot of people do for a reason. It's like they built the world out of jenga blocks.

>>52266537
Official Manga canon.

>>52265402
Will there be an origin for being a god, or will that be accomplished through some other means?

>>52266280
Yes. Talked down the heroes before they could fight me, however.

>>52266561
That sounds a lot more understandable then how anon first put it, with her personally despising them. Sounds more like a particularly hideous but ultimately necessary duty for the good of the majority.

>>52266330
Something horrible has happened to
Duel Monsters - The Heroes WIP v0.5 - Imaged.pdf!
There are no Robots or Transformation Sequences at all!
Tecks Mecks is not even about Mechs a little bit!

WHY YOU DO THIS SMTANON?

>>52266330
>Killer7 jump
Oh boy. Well, at least I'll get the chance to stop some of the more stupid events. Seriously, why the fuck would you fire 200 missiles at Japan just to distance the relationship?

>>52266535
When she achieves it, Reimu will try to kill her. Not sure if Marisa could survive, they're roughly equal most of the time but if Reimu calls upon the true power of the Hakurei Shrine's god, then she gets supreme anti-youkai magic that would make her unbeatable.

>>52266550
Notably, there's no once-per-day limit, either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX1aFjLsWxY

Just ignore the music.

>>52266535
Reimu is getting a taste of her own medicine post-spark, regardless. Execution.

>>52266576
You could put it like that, but she was being a total edgelord about it.
I highly highly recommend using secondary canon to make the whole youkai piffing in a puff of logic thing go away so that such measures are no longer necessary.
Or change how believe/disbelief works because it's really fucking dumb.
Maybe both.

>>52266600
Only the villagers are prohibited from becoming youkai. Since Marisa lives in the forest, nothing would happen to her even if she did become a youkai magician.

Also, stop fanwanking.

>>52266576
It doesn't have to be enforced as viciously as she does. The human population didn't all flip to youkai before she got her position. She just leans on murder because making exceptions, giving warnings, and generally being fair would require effort on her part instead of spite.

>>52266637
I find it hard to believe that it'd suddenly be okay for a human to run off to another part of Gensokyo and transform into a youkai when it's a hard and fast rule otherwise.

Master Control Program (Grid Bound) 400cp background making it somewhat like gamer stuff using the fact you are Controling the system warping to your desires
Thoughts opinions?

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>>52266196
Try any other 2hu first. Reimu only has quality armpits and that's just an old meme.
If you jsut want the shrine maiden aesthetic consider Sanae.
At least she's good at being smug.

>>52266662
I don't even understand what you are trying to say. What does this do?

>>52266662
you have enough backgrounds. Lose ISO, mix some of its perks into drop-in and program.
Add MCP as a capstone breaker or undiscounted perk

Do the skill learning rate standing stone perks in Skyrim have the same rates as in the game? IE Mage/Thief/Warrior 20% Lover 15%?

>>52266602
>no once-per-day limit
Yeah, but that is stated in the perk.

>>52266662
...aren't you constantly begging for perks for your current backgrounds? How are you going to handle another on top?

>>52266693
ISO are integral to the grid and the MCP came into my head when I was trying to think of dropin 2 missing perks

>>52266420
Is it the misspelling your name that ticks you off?
I so sorry Desu With an 'E' like is should be!

>>52265991
>Get Dimension Lord and warp the time in your Dimension
>Put SCP 2400 in it
>Put Clock of Ages in SCP-2400
Bam, all the training time you need.

>>52266565
He said capstone booster.

>>52266186
...Shit, really? I think that might be something worth including in the notes/perk description next time you update it, because messing with souls like that is a /huge/ deal for a lot of people, not really something that can't be mentioned. And apparently, you can't do anything with them once they'e acquired, so releasing them isn't possible?

>>52266777
And enter the creepypasta pocket realm and put in there a hiperbolic time chamber

>>52266420
So we should call you Desu instead desu~?
That could cause issues desu~
You know what can happen when people start using that word desu~

>>52266280
I usually end us constructing some sort of complex evil conspiracy in mundane settings to keep things interesting.

>>52266762
It doesn't actually tick me off, I just give an exaggerated reaction because it's part of the joke. I tried to have my name backwards once as a joke, but accidentally spelled DivelSurvivorAnon instead, and thus DiSu/Disu was born. The 'anger' is just me going along with it.

Yes, an E! For Excellent!

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is anyone working on a Kemono Friends jump?

>>52266821
Doesn't the actual show suck major ass, it's just got cute designs?

>>52266535
>>52266561
Well fuck that place then, new plane for everyone except that bitch!

Well, after I follow her around and shit on her attempts to preserve balance.

>>52266834
Maybe watch it and form your own opinion of it instead of just shouting off random statements?

>>52266811
Desu or DeSu is actually what the game is usually shortened to as well, funnily enough.

Implying that that's an issue, desu~

>>52266852
Just kill her or something, not like she's a great person.She's just a dutyfag.

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After a flurry of activity and deciding that a few of the perk ideas were a bit overkill...

Double Cross' first complete draft is ready for reading!
Apologies if the formatting's a bit fucked, I'm still experimenting with Microsoft word and how to make the jump look...actually presentable.

>>52266865
Who the fuck has the free time to watch things they're told are bad?

>>52266821
It has not been. What's it about?

Also, CUUUUUUUUTE!

>>52266878
Oh hey, I remember hearing about this game. It's supposed to be about some virus mutating people and giving them special powers or something, right-

>127 pages
...um...wow.

>>52266834
It doesn't matter if it sucks ass, as long as it has cute girls with animal ears all will be well.

>>52266878
Removing the massive blank spaces and downsizing the text to be less huge would help a lot.

>>52266880
Then you're obviously too busy to be posting regurgitated statements on something you haven't even seen. Quickly, be off with you, on to your important business.

In the future, perhaps try not shitting on things just because you heard someone else say they were bad. You can just stay quiet.

>>52266734
As I said, just mix them in with the program and drop-in tree. They're not integral to the grid at all, they didn't even appear in the first film.

If you're stuck on perks then take advice, if you don't want advice then don't ask for it.

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>>52266915
Yeah, those blank aren't showing up on the word document for some reason
you have to understand that for some god awful reason all these formatting screwups simply AREN'T visible in my word document.
...not that I'm trying to make an excuse, i'm just explaning why I've been having a painful time trying to clean it up.
Still, I'll endeavor to do so

>>52266918
Guessing you're a big fan.

>>52266852
You do realize youkai and kami need humans to live? And that those humans are all actually pretty badass and are the descendants of Youkai Hunters chose to become a part of Gensokyo?

I don't get what the hate behind Reimu is all about, but seriously, she's got a job she needs to do, and it's already gotten her cut off from the rest of humanity. There's also the fact that she introduced the Spell Card system to further level the playing field between the residents and various youkai and kami.

>>52266852
You uh don't realize what you're getting in to do you.
It's not that there's something wrong with Gensokyo that makes things have to be this way theres something even more wrong with Youkai that makes it necessary. Making a new plane wouldn't do anything, but push the problem somewhere else. You'll have to edit the way Youkai or The very world itself works to make any headway. The current system exists for a reason, it works and thanks to spell cards people don't even die all that often anymore.

>>52266876
Her life is integral to maintaining the barrier. If she dies Gensokyo collapses in on itself and bad things happen to everyone inside. You'd need to stabilize things first and that's still an edgy as fuck thing to try. It's not like she actually likes doing her job you know and she's a pretty decent person aside from the sheer zeal she has against humans becoming youkai.

>>52266975
Nah. It's not that great. I just dislike idiots with keyboards. Either form your own opinion or let other people have their fun. Ideally both.

>>52267014
Why aren't you explaining the setting to the people asking?

>>52267007
Reimu hasn't been the shrine maiden forever. That duty can be passed onto someone who is less of a blood knight.

>>52266821
YOURE WAIFU IS A BIRD
A BIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRD

>>52266993
>those humans are all actually pretty badass
>Would be destroyed instantly by any youkai that walked into town if there wasn't an agreement

>>52267030
She's not a blood knight when fighting normally. She just takes preventative measures against accidental genocide seriously.
Although since Reimu is so young there's no heir yet. Who would be her replacement in the first place?

>>52267062
She's a blood knight in dealing with humans who reasonably want to escape their shitty miserable life in Gensokyo and the misery inherent in being a mortal being doomed to die.

I'm pretty sure it's easy to find humans who make better shrine maidens than lazy asshole Reimu.

>>52267041
Not really. There's plenty of scrub Youkai out there, we just don't see much of them since they're scrubs.
Now if a big player showed up then the average person would be pretty much screwed, but to say it's completely lopsided isn't quite true.

>>52267102
Are you the same anon who hated that foxgirl from fate go? do you hate Zen oh by the way?

>>52267007
>>52266993
Fine then, I'll just turn the Youkai into humans.

>>52267115
What?

>>52267115
>do you hate Zen oh
From DBS? Not him, but what reasonable person doesn't?

>>52267102
You do realize that humans in Gensokyo are there by choice correct?
I don't think it would be permitted if everyone decided to leave, but there is a gate at the Hakurei shrine that leads to the outside world. Outside of being severely out of touch with the world it's still an out.

>>52267117
You know some of them are planetary scale reality warpers? And they definitely don't all deserve it.

>>52267140
It's by the foolish actions of their ancestors that they're stuck there. They have no idea what the outside world is like even if they know of the gate, and would probably die horribly quickly. This world isn't friendly to people without paperwork. Hardly much of a choice.

>>52267161
>They definitely don't all deserve it.
Admitting that being a human sucks?

>>52267117
And then fuck up the reason why Gensokyo was created in the first place? Also, do you actually think that most of those youkai would thank you?

>>52267161
>>52267180
I can shatter and remake galaxies and entire dimensions.

Well they're apparently preying on humanity, so they're either getting turned into people or they're getting shoved into the Wall of the Faith where I keep the FR gods. If they'd honestly rather that than be human, that's fine.

>>52267180
Why does preserving a pack of monsters who live at the expense of humans matter?

>>52266878
How much do the various "encroachment reducing" perks and items in-jump reduce by?

>>52267203
You'd lose that fight.

>>52267215
Jesus, that's some wank.

>>52267117
That would be a helluva bandaid. You'd be hard pressed to find Youkai that would want that to happen to them, but it would technically solve the existential crisis.
I'd give that plan a 2/10. You tried.

The real solution is to Stars and Stones the shit out of every Youkai ever so that fear/belief/expectations no longer govern their existance. Then there's no need for any of this nonsense.

>>52267229
>Then there's no need for any of this nonsense.

Sure there is. Jumper needs to prove their dick is bigger than the setting.

>>52267223
Can't be helped if you don't know what you're getting into.
Do you think you can beat biblical YHWH without iron chariots?

>>52267229
>Stars and Stones
May I ask the meaning of that?

>>52267252
Dresden Files, Drop-In / Outsider capstone.

>>52267215
Really? Who in the setting can outdo that?

>>52267229
I'm not asking. Everyone's getting immortality and magic anyway, so I don't see what grounds they have to complain one other than "wah, I want to be a people-wating monster"?

>>52267252
Dresden Files perk.

>The Outsiders don't just refuse to play the rules, they break them, permanently. You've inherited this ability of theirs, and now you're able to let those around you slip the bonds of otherwise-inviolate supernatural laws. I'm not just talking magical contracts or compulsions, either - you can allow a creature to go against its fundamental nature. A vampire could be free of its hunger, a fairy could lie, and a Foo Dog could betray its family with your help. Only two restrictions - you can't remove a vulnerability, and you can't use this ability on yourself. You especially can't use it to eliminate said restrictions, so nice try.

>>52267213
They can bring it to about 1% minimum, the strong ones tend to drop 5-10% while the rest shave off anywhere from 3-4%
Usually enough to make using basic powers like Complete Therianthrophy regularly viable, but for consideration to be made using things like Burst Break or Avatar of Thunder.

>>52267215
...Excuse me? No, just... holy fuck.

>>52267269
>>52267278
Thanks

>>52267252
It is a perk from Dresdin Files. You can slap the nature right out of beings. Things like letting Fae lie or Vampires get over their hunger.
It may or may not also be a tool for unraveling reality but who really cares about that.

>>52267229
>Plant relies on everyone taking one perk from one jump

>>52267252
>meaning of that
I think Stars & Stones is the 2st Outsider perk in Dresden files that lets you free others from compulsions and mental effects. Including hard wired ones.

>>52267269
>Outsider capstone.
That one is Empty Night, an immunity to direct magic perk.

>>52267244
>Do you think you can beat biblical YHWH without iron chariots?
Why wouldn't someone be able to? There are several passages in the Bible that show YVVH to be fallible, iron chariots just one of them. That alone is enough to show he's not omnipotent. There's also the part where his entire canon is just one big character statement, sent from him to humans, who then edited it. It'd be perfectly in-character if any claims of "omnipotence" were just him boasting.

>>52267171
Look, if you really wanna save those humans, find a way to reintroduce the idea/concept of magic to the rest of the world and bring down the Hakurei Barrier. Then slowly reintroduce those humans to modern society.

Also, it's interesting that you said that considering the Industrial push that's been happening on the Mountain with the Fusion Reactor and the technologies slowly filtering into the Village.

>>52267203
Read above.

>>52267211
Simply put? To preserve "Mystery and Magic".

Things that are slowly dying in the world outside of Gensokyo.

You need to remember that the Japanese more or less live alongside their myths and legends, so to some, a world that does not have a youkai in an unseen crack or a kami watching over a tree that's had generations of a family's children playing in it is a colder, less alive world.

>>52267352
I don't give a shit. It's a shitty culture, anyway.

I'm not claiming to be the good guy here, I just hate these kind of dicks.

>>52267352
>find a way to reintroduce the idea/concept of magic to the rest of the world
But that would just allow youkai to roam in the real world and murder and devour everyone.

>>52267278
Does anyone know why there's a fiat ban on using it on yourself? I'm unsure how doing that is such a big deal or why it would even be useful.

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>Jumper has arrived in Gensokyo and is releasing a magic that turns youkai into human and vice-versa
>They send their eight companions to stall out the locals
>Reimu and Marisa are mobilized
>When the midi trumpets start blaring, Jumper realizes too late they've become a shoot-em-up final boss
>And then Cardcaptor Sakura, Orikan, the lose condition of Soul Eater, and every drawback enemy ever show up at the same time.
>???
>Somehow, everyone ends up having tea.

I was way too entertained by this mental image than I should have been.

>>52267277
There isnt' really anyone in setting who can. Not upfront with biggatons. 2hu has hella hax so maybe. Maybe. There's a lot of No limits bullshit going around there. I'd imagine they'd gang up on you rather quickly and dealing with every conceptual thing ever trying to fuck you is unlikely to be pleasant, but if you've minmaxed then you aren't guaranteed to lose.

However if you're just going to wave your jumper dick into things and bulldoze over it then it doesn't really matter what the people in the setting think. However I'd rate your plan a 5 on the bancho scale of dick maneuvers.

>>52267387
Because Wild_Card likes his badwrongfun? That's pretty much the only reason for it.

>>52267394
Bancho would probably side with the youkai or do something else horrible like making humans rely on eating youkai instead.

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This conversation makes me wonder how many jumpers change the world they jump versus how many try not to change much stuff and stay in the sidelines.

>>52267387
It could be self-modified if you could use it on yourself, and thus it COULD be made to remove vulnerabilities, for example. Plus, magic, explain, etc

>>52267393
I admit, this is something relatively similar to how I plan on getting the special reward in that jump, incident and final boss fight and tea and everything.

>>52267394
>Making human eating monsters into humans
>Giving everyone magic and immortality
I'm not really defending the morality of my actions, but I'm not sure how that's as dickish as Bancho's stunts.

>>52267384
>>52267385
Blame the Lunarians. They're the ones that set this shit up in the first place.

>>52267393
>Cardcaptor Sakura
Reminder that she's omnipotent and automatically hates Jumpers.

>>52267458
That's why any jumper worth their salt is going to have perks to make them invisible to clairvoyance/precog/etc and ways to null magic.

>>52267352
>reintroduce magic
Final fantasy 14? Mother crystal I think it was?

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Looking for some quick help finishing this up. I'm missing one perk for the Dog tree, and am thinking of rearranging some of the prices in that one, but otherwise it's good to go as far as I can tell.

>>52267458
>automatically hates Jumpers.

As EVERY character, fictional and otherwise, should.

>>52267494
Mary Sues are unforgivable.

>>52267448
They should be punished too.

>>52267494
Why are you here, then?

>>52267483
You just make me think of ben ten desu

>>52267482
Even before you get shit on for Dirgeposting, what you're thinking of is not the same thing as what anon is mentioning.

>>52267523
Same reason everybody else is here.

I'm just honest with myself.

>>52267419
Honestly, most worlds already have built-in problem solvers for their shit, so I just roll along, helping out or just fuck off and do my own thing.

There have been a few worlds where I stepped in to change shit, but that was less personally handling it myself and more empowering those that could make a difference through knowledge and training.

>>52267458
W-wait really? B-but I helped her and Syaoran out a few times...a-and I even got him to admit that she was worthy earlier.

I EVEN BAKED HER COOKIES!!

>>52267482
Not literally, more like reintroducing stories and belief in magic and other supernatural beings.

>>52267458
>automatically hates Jumpers.
How so?

>>52267535
Yup. She'll take especially sadistic pleasure in slowly killing you.

>>52267534
And implying everyone else is here for the same reason, or that they're not being honest with themselves? That's called projecting, anon.

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>>52267409
5 out of ten so half way there not actually full bancho.

>>52267442
A big part of it is because you are overwriting who they are with something else with no consent. You could argue that it's better, but being a Youkai is mental as it is physical. It's a little more than changing skin suits.
You'd also run into issues with new Youkai showing up over time or people snapping back into being Youkai from being too magical.
That and nature would be all fucked since no more gods lol.
It would be a helluva mess. I certainly wouldn't call it a good idea. Good intentions, but it wouldn't go well.

>>52267550
It's a meme after several Anons, learning what Sakura had access to, began losing their shit and panicking in thread.

>>52267531
>>52267535
But, wouldn't introducing a magic system kinda force those things to happen?

Like, 'holy shit magic! I wonder what else is real?'

>>52267550
He's just memeing. One time a guy posted one of those Madara-style copypastas about Sakura. Then this other guy flipped out and spent half the thread trying to find the best way to kill Sakura because he thought she was going to murder him as soon as he stepped in the jump.

>>52267419
Depends on what needs to be changed. Change for it's own sake is chaos. Change where change is wanted is freedom.

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>>52267419
I generally don't? I've found that trying to change the world to my whims is...okay, it's not HARD but it's too much effort. I don't have any ambitions of empire or some kind of concept I'm wholeheartedly devoted to. I just like to mess around and enjoy cheap thrills.

I almost never intervene in a big way unless I'm personally attached to some of the locals, and I tend to spoil them a bit...though not before messing with them a little. Extending the space of a hallway for several miles as a 'test of character', cursing them to wear only clothes with bright polka dots for a day, things like that.

This hands-off approach became very pronounced after I took a certain Infernals charm. If I REALLY wanted to, I could turn the entire world upside down, and build it back up in my image.

But that's boring. I'd rather do magical experiments and play video games all day. Trying to fix all the world's problems is busywork. Busywork, I say!

That said, I am not above causing massive amounts of collateral damage and destruction for fun. Destroying the moon is practically a jump's hazing ritual for me.
>>52267550
It's a meme.

>>52267571
It's the stories that matter the most, everything else follows.

Plus introducing a new element is only going to end up giving everyone headaches.

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>>52266915

Here we are. I'm actually genuinely floored by how much of a difference removing the pagebreaks was, I didn't realize they were full page breaks, just widow/orphan correction

A doi.

>>52267419

I mostly just hang out and have fun without radically changing things or pissing in everyone else's cocoa puffs where applicable. I'll step in and change some stuff every now and then, but I don't really leave most worlds radically different than they would be in canon.

>>52267595
>Destroying the moon is practically a jump's hazing ritual for me.
What did Sokka's first girlfriend ever do to you.

Monster.

>>52267571
No, because the problem isn't the lack of magic, it's the changed humans. What you need to fix is the human tendency to forget, not the fact that magic doesn't exist. Even if you reintroduce magic, all you would do is skew the human perception to magic, which wouldn't do anything for the relationship between humans and youkai. There are youkai who live in the outside world just as there are humans in the outside world that believe youkais exist, but those have reached their own state of metastability. That's what Touhou is ultimately about, a state of quasi-metastability within an isolated system. If you break that by trying to introduce a new element into the mix, the results aren't as simple as "magic increase, youkai increase" because the relationship isn't linear.

>>52267561
The outside world is empty of all of that and is just fine though.

>>52267561
I'll edit their souls as well and put guardians in place (via Demon Spawn or what it's called from Hero BBS) to keep the system running smooth, people from changing back into monsters, and nature from getting fucked up. Or better yet, just make it run off of standard physics or some different magical laws.

>>52267419
Most jumps I keep to the sidelines but there are a few I change for the better. There are even fewer that I destroy everything I can Gundam AGE in particular.

Are both anime and manga considered canon for Fist of the North Star?

>>52267609
You had 40 pages worth of page breaks?

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>>52267517
Good luck. No really Good luck. Please remove Lunarian.
Just make sure not to go into that war as anything even partially divine unless you want to fight the equivalent of a gang of choice scarf dittos that are't move locked.
Also maybe don't remove the buns. They're basicaly a slave race that dindu nuthin.

>>52267640
Why does he need to fix it, though? What do human-eating monsters add to the world that needs to be preserved?

>>52267419
If I make any changes, it's usually to try and fix the problems the main cast can't. For example, I fixed the world in Nechronica and Evangelion, allowing life to return properly. I also tend to start the ball rolling tech wise in settings where I'm confident it will be handled maturely for the most part, leaving fail safes in case they aren't. I think the biggest change I ever made was in 1984, where I smashed the three states and started the long, painful process of getting everyone back into the proper mental state. Did not help that because of the power I had and how used to obedience they all were, they all started worshipping me as a god. I had to work hard there, because not only was the world devastated by war and the damage the three states had caused to the environment, the people themselves were broken for the most part.

>>52267657
He's trying to fix it right now.

I think he may be giving in to despair.

>>52267609
Almost half the jump is just powers copied from the books. I can sort of see what people said about it being bloated.

>>52267657
apparently?! I didn't really even delete anything else, I just was deleting page breaks as I found them
How the fuck?

>>52267609
Much, much better now. What size text are you using in this by the way?

>>52267419
On a related note, what's the best way to help the Dark Souls universe?

>>52267692

I'm gonna give you a hint and tell you Nito had the right idea.

>>52267687

Nunito 14, with some of the bigger subheaders were 16
I think the final part of the jump was Nunito 18

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>>52267419
I tend err towards ripping out all existing power structures and replacing them with more efficient ones where me/a fork of me have complete control.

>>52267669
I have no clue what canon you're going by, or what conversation you think you're in, but the original question was a matter of what adding magic would do to the world, which brought up using external magic. This is ignoring the fact that the humans would be killed off once they leave the barrier anyways.

>>52267692
If you don't mind the cycle, just let the Age of Dark happen. Even the Flame is tired and wants it now. If you do mind the cycle you have a hard road ahead of you, because reality itself breaks down after the cycle has been stopped long enough.

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What's the most terrifying thing you've encountered in your chain, Jumpers?

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>>52267634
OKAY I DIDN'T SAY EVERY MOON. SOME ARE OKAY IN MY BOOK. SOME OF MY FRIENDS ARE EVEN MOONS.

Type-Moon, Sailor Moon, and Sokka's girlfriend I don't mess with. The latter two because they're okay in my book. The first one because the Nasuverse is a ticking fucking timebomb I'd rather not set off.

>>52267483
In the item section:

>Half Price God:

Intentional?

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>>52267567
>>52267579
>>52267595
That's pretty hilarious. Did they even see a picture of her?

Gaze into the face of death and know true despair.

>>52267736
You're talking about the girl who is the mother to her own mother's mother?

>>52267702
Kill everything? But then everyone is becoming immortal mindless zombies anyway.

I honestly don't remember what he even wanted.

>>52267609
Can I use the Ouroboros power-stealing powers to choose a power of lesser cost than what it tells me to? (e.g. another 100 instead of 200)

>>52267726
Sakura

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>>52267644
Youkai and gods exist in the outside world. There are just less of them. Lots less. Things would probably move on without them eventually if they were to disappear, but that's a lot different than upheaving a magical nature preserve and tearing out the support structures from underneath everyone.

>>52267646
At that point you'd really just be better off secondary canoning the setting into something you like better. You could scrape out the middle man by changing the metaphysics to be something less dumb and then actually enjoy yourself instead of paving over the setting and putting up a parking lot.

>>52267747
...what?

>>52267733
The best way I can put this is yes, as Half Price God is the background that gets you the discounts on the Item perks, though they aren't really an 'item' section per say. This does bring to mind a few small edits I am thinking of making there.

>>52267731
>All this moon-destroying
>Is too big of a pussy to put it to use and destroy some TYPES
What a useless person of mass destruction you are, Heavens.

>>52267749

"Stuff needs to die and rest sometimes." The prolonged Age of Fire is making a mockery of the natural cycle of things and the world is having a weird fit about it by the time 3 rolls around. Just, stop people from throwing themselves in the fire.

>>52267750
...Uh, sure?
I mean that potential never occurred to me

>>52267747
Fucking CLAMP tho.

Don't forget that this technically makes Watanuki the actual son they were supposed to have.

>>52267760
xxxHolic and Tsubasa Chronicles happened Anon.

Everyone's still trying to figure shit out after it ended.

>>52267726
Shadows.

Back in Infamous I took the Stalker drawback, which resulted in a very nasty showdown with a Wire conduit that left Jumper sans an arm and leg and scarred as fuck. Only survived due to my PMD partner critting on their assist, storming in and curbstomping the psycho bitch.

Sadly not before Jumper tried to solve the problem with a mind dive to try and fix her insanity in a moment of naivety that went....poorly.

Then in FEAR I took the drawback wherthe dark parts of your psyche are manisfesting in the real world and you have to deal with them. Which brought the residual psychic imprint left in jumper of her back for a more horrific rematch.

Then there was Persona dealing with the Crawling Chaos and yet another manisfestation of the dark parts Jumpers psyche..

The scariest things are in your own head anon.

>>52267757
Secondary canon is basically cheating.

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>>52267760
This plus time travel and dimensional travel.

>>52267757
>instead of paving over the setting and putting up a parking lot.
But you just did that with secondary canon.

>>52267783
Fans of Sakura are well advised to ignore other CLAMP works.

>>52267785
How is it cheating? The whole point of the Touhou jump as made is that it doesn't point to which canon is supposed to be valid, not to mention it was made prior to the manga canon and took no part of the manga into consideration. Even the manga's acknowledgement of the later games is a bit tentative, some events use certain interpretations of endings and downplays others.

>>52267779
Kind of feels like a bad idea to let Kaathe get anything he wants.

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>>52267768
>What a useless person of mass destruction you are, Heavens.
Well, you're not wrong.

I am the sort of person who considers willing a butler into existence a viable alternative to standing up.

>>52267823
You're removing canon to replace it with an easier version while expending no effort or cost to yourself. It's a cheat code to get the result you want.

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>>52267785
It's also actually how things go depending on how you look at it.

>>52267806
Hardly the same thing anon. It's just going somewhere different instead.

>>52267825
Remember that all the serpents are manipulators, and there are those that want the fire preserved.

>>52267726
The top five in no particular order:
- My Shadow
- Magical Girls in general
- Arciued
- Gilgamesh
- John Constantine

>>52267810
Don't listen to this anon. It's actually a lot of fun watching Sakura play on the interdimensional level alongside the other Sakura(s) and Watanuki.

The crybaby who was terrified of ghosts has grown up.

>>52267825

Yeah, but at the same time, do you wanna give Frampt what he wants? It's one or the other, they both suck and they're both behind the scenes and influencing things even in Dark Souls 3 where Kaathe is namedropped and "holy statues" of a primordial serpent are found that seems to implicate Frampt. Dickhead snake things.

>>52267835
You do realize the manga canon, if you're using that, is technically the "easiest" version of all because the conflict is deliberately staged right? If anything using secondary canon is harder than the primary.

>>52267798
My head hurts just reading that. So...let me get this straight. Copy Sakura and Syaoran were copied from Real Sakura and Syaoran. When they died and were reincarnated, they became MKR Sakura and Syaoran, who are the parents of Real Syaoran.

HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT WORK.

>>52267845
>>52267865
Not saying Frampt isn't a manipulative backstabbing bastard, just they Kaathe has caused a fuckton of shit woth his attempts at causing the Age of Dark.

>>52267862
Clusterfucks aren't good things, anon.

>>52267866
Remember that we're talking about the context of his goal.

>>52267870
Because Clow was too strong for his own good. With the conclusion of xxxHolic the timelines basically all make sense as long as the adventurers (R) keep moving. Everyone else basically stays in eternal limbo. As much as people hate the ending for Watanuki, at least this wasn't on the level of X1999

>>52267835
There isn't really a solid Touhou canon.
Things contradict themselves all the time and there is excessive use of unreliable narration.
Whether Rinnosuke is right or talking out his ass changes the mechanics of belief massively and we'll never know for sure because that's just not important to the story.

>>52267875

Well I'm not saying that he wasn't a fucktard about Oolacile, I'm just saying let the cycle end naturally as opposed to the unnatural attempts to end it early or prolong it that the serpents are up too. And doing that means making people stop self-immolating in the magic world fire.

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>>52267845
>>52267865
Oh man, first time I walked into the ruins and saw Frampt, I almost shit my pants. Just because he was suddenly there and he looks so... unsettling, for some reason. Makes my goddamn skin crawl.

>>52267870
One dude tried to save the life of his crush. He made a wish, and realized that he fucked up badly, then vanished.

His relative decided to continue trying to save her life and then pulled the entire CLAMP multiverse into it. Eventually, he died and the woman whose time was suspended finally moved on.

...or did she?

>>52267898
Personally? I just follow the games and make shit up as I go along in between each one, accounting for my presence since I kinda landed myself with a job at the shrine.

I was a priest in Okami, so I guess I had prior experience?

>>52267910

Primordial Serpents are veiny penis monsters with flesh mustaches and massive molars that they're constantly grinding. Then when you talk to them they're always trying to make you do shady shit and stuff. Of course they're unsettling.

>>52267891
Yes, his goal of either eliminating the Youkai, or destroying the barrier. The characters in manga canon are far easier to reason with than in game, and the manga hasn't made any explicit references to the Wasteland world outside either, so there's no real reason to presume that just bringing down the barrier will kill people through disease and famine. Because two of the manga are slice of life and one is mystery, the manga literally presents anon with opportunities to destabilize the system, it's happened nearly ten times now.

People like to bring up Reimu slaughtering the ascended human Youkai, except they don't seem to realize that he was a complete idiot that was basically too stupid to live anyways. The guy makes bancho look like Einstein.

>>52267726
Either my Shadow or that Abyssal Entity I ended up fighting in MTA. They were both horrible in their own ways.

>>52267898
>>52267912
Fucking magic, man. How does it even work?

Also, man, Clow must have been really fucking strong.

>>52267782
Cool. Thanks for doing such a good job on this. So much content to account for.

>>52267929
Yeah, but fuck. He made me jump more than actual horror games do for some reason.

>>52267898
Suzunaan overlaps well with Ibarakasen because they use minimal connections. Sangetsusei doesn't really need to overlap at all, but even then it works well as a partial prequel to Ibarakasen and Suzunaan. To call the manga trio the only canon is a shaky argument, but it definitely holds its own as long as you don't try to reconcile it with 98 or 2nd gen canon too much.

>>52267910
It's the eyes and mouth.
Both are way too expressive, while everything else is so inhuman.
It's uncanny valley.

>>52267942
Well he did make all of Sakura's powers.

>>52267942
So check this, everything that CCS!Sakura could do? Clow can easily run circles around her with his eyes blindfolded.

He was equal to Ichihara Yuuko, a wish granted witch whose power extended across entire dimensions. There's a reason why I chose her as my Jump's Patron

>>52267977
What can CCS!Sakura do?

>>52268001
CCS is the one people call the omniscient deity and reeee over.

>>52267901
But that's not enough, right? The flame can't die on its own, Sven if you can prevent future unChosen Undead from rising up and linking it. The First Sin perverted the world and now the Flame can't die naturally.

>>52267895
>Everyone else basically stays in eternal limbo.
Sounds like hell.

>>52268036
Compared to the Shakespearean tragedies that CLAMP used to love because it made girls gush in tears, this is definitely better. They basically just live forever in their respective worlds. Not sure if Watanuki still has the concept of death at this point.

>>52268032

Unless I'm missing something, it's fading just fine in each of the following games and even in DS3 when they collect all the big souls and embers and stuff and link the fire, it barely smoulders compared to the explosive boom of the first game.

No seriously though, I'm probably forgetting something.

A reminder that CLAMP made JoJo's Bizarre Adventure fanfiction involving yaoi fun between Jotaro and Kakyoin, ending in Kakyoin laying an egg that hatched into Jolyne.

>>52268065
Do they even still exist?

>>52265751
Meer Campbell. I got to her before the crazy set in, made her a successful musician in her own right instead of obsessing over how similar she was to Lacus. Because no one should want to be like Lacus Clyne.

>>52267726
Uhh, let's see, in order

1. Most foes I encountered in the Exalted Mortal Heroes Gauntlet if only because the Mortal Heroes Gauntlet reminded me of what I once was
2. Probably Legato because he was fond of psychological tactics
3. All the giant robot battles in G Gundam
4. Gilgamesh
5. The fucking Lopto child burning cult

I'm probably forgetting something or someone here.

>>52268001
> http://cardcaptorsakura.wikia.com/wiki/Clow_Cards

Every single card there is a part of her power, and it's implied that she's only just getting started.

>>52268036
Tsubasa Chronicles had one of their happiest ending to date. That should give you an idea what kind of authors we're dealing with here.

>>52267646
>Or better yet, just make it run off of standard physics or some different magical laws.
How are you managing that?

>>52266878
Fuck yeah, Double Cross. I think I'm going to go Bram Stoker. I've got that perk combo from Bloodborne that changes your blood into a powerful alchemic reagent, so that should synergize excellently.

>>52268051
Picture CLAMP and Urobochi on the same project.

Just picture it.

>>52268087
Dude said he can make and unmake dimensions and galaxies.

>>52268082
>it's implied that she's only just getting started.
Until she dies in a car accident.

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>>52268080
*once was, a weak human being with limits

>>52268065
I SUPPORT THE EGG SON

>>52268072
They do, yes

>>52268064
Wasn't that the whole point of the Lord of Hollows ending and the ones where you give the Firekeeper Eyes? You need to.e way to forcibly absorb what's left of the Flame, I thought.

>>52268087
Well I'm not the guy you're asking, but there does exist a spell for doing exactly that kind of thing in Anima Beyond Fantasy.
It's divine magic and retardedly difficult to cast, but not impossible. After casting just add and remove rules from reality until you get the result you want. Shouldn't take more than a few castings to get it just right. Just don't forget to carry the zero and accidentally gravity or something stupid like that.

>>52268065
Are you shitting m-

>>52268109
holy shit it's real.

>>52268121

I believe that's less "the only way" and more of a way to actively kill the thing off. It'll die on its own if people stopped feeding it, but it's always kept sustained so it never happens. That's how I understood it anyways. People wouldn't be so desperate to keep it burning if it could continue burning forever on its own.

>>52268103
Wrong Sakura...I think?

The C!Sakura was the one who died that accident. CSS!Sakura should still be alive considering she helped Watanuki and R!Sakura with R!Syaoran restarting that one world's cycle of death and rebirth.

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>>52268147
Indeed, and >>52268065 got it wrong. The egg didn't hatch into Jolyne, as Stone Ocean was not written back then! It hatched into a boy named Jouta.

>>52268153
Guess so.

>>52268153
Has there even been an Age of Dark yet? I thought there had been a bunch of them as of two, with the cycle continuing to loop back around. But then 3 implied it's never started.

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So the Doctor Who jump doesn't let you have any of DW technology just because, but what about alien/monster biology? What are the species with the most interesting or deadly abilities, and how do you protect yourself from them? How would one go about 'borrowing' them?

>>52268153
Speaking of. Just to be clear, the Dragon you can purchase is actually one of the lesser kind with two legs and wings, right? Not a baby Stone Dragon?

>>52268178
Fanwank it. We don't know.

>>52268139
You mean Chaos, from the Destruction school? That requires daily maintenance by the caster (though I guess that could be avoided with Infinity from SDS), and only affects a region around sixty miles in radius. It's also ignored by anyone with Gnosis 15 or higher, which would probably include most yokai given that Gnosis 15 is in the "minor spirits and weak magical monsters" range.

>>52268181
Time Lords are fucking bullshit.

>>52268178
Some people think the Age of Dragons was an Age of Dark. Don't think there's anything solid on it, though.

>>52268171
...

What da fuck kinda Stand is that.

>>52268178

I think 3 has been implying that the Age of Dragons WAS an Age of Dark, with how hollows are turning into things resembling ancient dragons, and trees and all the "cycle" themes and stuff. With us having no information about the world prior to the Age of Dragons, the cycle could have been happening for far longer than we ever knew for all we know.

>>52268181
>but what about alien/monster biology?
Isn't genetic engineering arguably a form of technology? Cause that's where most of their abilities come from.

>>52268197
Nah man I mean Create from the creation school.
It just lets you up and do just about whatever if you manage to cast that beast.

>>52268200
It was explicitly not, though. It was before the concepts of Light and Dark even existed.

>But then there was Fire and with Fire, came Disparity. Heat and cold. Life and death. And of course... Light and Dark.

>>52268190

The ones hanging out all over Lothric? Yeah.

is there any better jump for setting up forcefields than the Minecraft jump? I know that you can do it with Walls of Force out of D&D, but I want a science solution

>>52268226
Huh. So it does. I swear, I've looked at that spell's description a dozen times and never noticed that. Well, that's awesome. Changes a lot for many of my plans for various jumps. The spell still doesn't affect anyone with more than half your Gnosis, though, and the highest you could feasibly get is forty, so the strongest residents of Gensokyu could ignore it. But you'd get most of them.

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>>52268201
That's not Jouta's stand. This is Jouta's stand, Charmy Green. He likes knitting.

>>52268216
Wild_Card, man. I wouldn't be surprised if he said that magic ricocheted off the ground counted as "indirect magic" for the purposes of bypassing Empty Night.

>>52268260
Kinda new here. What's the deal with Wild_Card?

>>52268227
I don't know if that's absolute, though. Even before Fire, there were dragons, archtrees, fog and clarity, etc.

>>52268271
If you don't know, don't ask.

>>52268271
Made a lot of odd rulings and is thus an "acceptable target" for shitting on.

Like everybody else being an acceptable target.

>>52268216
No, I was talking about innate abilities like what the Weeping Angels have, who certainly weren't genetically engineered.

>>52268276
All of those were supposed to be timeless and unchanging, though.

>>52268299
Except fog and clarity are not unchanging. There were also crags, and a few other things to imply change.

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>>52267726
Very first jump.
I appear in a new world holding a very short letter. I'm slightly disoriented and wearing some kind of sweater vest. It's night time, and I'm standing under a street light in front of an apartment building. There's two keys in my pocket, one with a dongle (numbered). It opens the appropriately numbered door in aforementioned building. I walk through my new four-room living space, in the dead of night. Bathroom, kitchen, living room, bedroom. Bedroom closet.
Bedroom closet. I slide the door open and am greeted with meters of coiled chitin and hundreds of twitching dark yellow legs as long as my fore-arm with dark tips, like needle-sharp pencil. And even longer bright red mandibles sitting at eye height on top of the coils of thick insect body. All of it crammed into a medium-sized closet.
I might have screamed something like "Jesus fucking shit NOPE" as I ran out of the room, tripped over the coffee table in the living room, and collided at high velocity with the front door. I woke up several hours later, cautiously confirmed that I had not been eaten in my sleep, and the closet was now empty.
Later, I found out that centipede was my downstairs neighbor, and classmate. We ended up getting married.
I picked up a fear immunity perk in the very next jump.

>>52268295
As I said, /most/ of the interesting abilities come from genetic engineering, ritualized technological modification, etc. There are very little "natural" abilities, with the exception of a few types of being. And most of the beings that weren't modified are so powerful that you probably don't need them anyway. However, if you're willing to use it, Summoning from NGNL could likely get past that restriction. Hell, you could probably acquire most technology in DW that way, if you meet the right kind of people.

>>52268327
I don't k ow what's more concerning. That you married a giant fucking centipede or that you married someone who was breaking into your house and hiding in your closet.

>>52268349
You can always just beat the Doctor up. It's not a fiat restriction, it's the Doctor slapping your hand away like a child whenever you try to take some tech. So long as you don't put up with his shit (and have the perks to counter his insane plot armor), you can take whatever you want. Yeah, sure, "modified the universal translator circuit to keep you from learning alien science", whatever. That's still not fiat, that's something someone in-jump did, you can get around that.

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>>52268249
You know if you started adding OOC materials with enuff magic boosters and metamagic dickery it's not unlikely that you could exceed the spells limitations on effecting higher gnosis.
Just something to consider.

>>52268327
Is that you, Oomukadetomokoanon?

>>52268385
I have considered it. Strengthening the spell doesn't change the maximum Gnosis it affects. Anima magic already has rules for overcharging them or using metamagic. You'd need to reverse-engineer the spell and make a new one that didn't have that limitation. It's like how no amount of technology perks will let you use a wrench to unbolt a bolt bigger than the wrench head can fit, it's just not something the wrench is designed for. You'd need to make a new one.

>>52268376
Yeah, but there /is/ a fiat clause saying he'll always be smarter/cleverer than you; and DW tech is pretty fucking bullshit, so he could likely counter even a few OOC abilities. Also, I don't think there's a tech perk, and DW tech relies on some wackadoodle physics as well.

>>52268408
Nope, there's just the benefactor saying he's more clever than you. No fiat there. Fair point on the tech relying on all sorts of stuff that shouldn't exist in other universes, though. Honestly, I just want to fuck with the Doctor's smug little brain. You're not clever, Doctor, you're just an asshole.

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What are some "fun" things to use in conjunction with /Omae wa mou shindeiru!/ from Fist of the North Star?

>>52268423
it's also pretty much the Doctor acting how he does in canon, keeping his various companions from getting alien tech IS part of what he does.

>>52268407
I'm thinking of stuff like using metamagic that is different than what you can apply to Anima magic normally.
Something like grabbing I cheat in JLD and going wild for example.
Not just basic +20 mana for bigger effects.

>>52268452
There's always the classic.

~Roses are red~
~Violets are blue~
~Omae wa mou shindeiru~

>>52268367
To be fair, she thought the apartment was unoccupied. And she's only like 84% giant centipede by mass. Or she was, until picking up a human alt-form with, like, 98 fewer legs.

>>52268387
I'd be surprised if there's another jumper who stumbled into a yandere giant centipede waifu by accident. So I'm probably the one you're thinking of.

>>52268481
No, anon, more like effects.

>Anything you have that causes instant or nigh-instant effects in a foe now has a curious property. Once you use the technique, spell, or ability it will patiently wait to take effect until after you've explained what is about to happen to your foe.

What are some interesting effects to use with it?

>>52268242
Halo? DC? Hard light constructs are basically forcefields from a certain PoV.

>>52268181
You could wank it and buy stuff from the shop offered in The Gamer once you move on to the next jump.

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>>52268497
"Oh, you were wondering why I stopped after that green light hit you. Allow me to fill you in."

Cue the song and dance routine: "Avada Kedavra! What a wonderful curse. Avada Kedavra! They don't get any woooorse..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tytOwMLqufg

>>52268519
I wonder how much money a TARDIS would take to buy.

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>>52268497
I don't really think I'd use it for the more lethal things, but every time I cast a spell that massively inconveniences someone and there's nothing they can do about it? Yeah, like teleporting people halfway across the planet.

>>52268555
More than you have.

>>52268555
There'd be no reason to buy it for anything other than display purposes. T.A.R.D.I.S.es in Doctor Who are probably one of the best examples of shit not working out of setting due needing a lot of (meta-)physical structures that simply don't exist elsewhere. Which might make it cheaper, actually. I doubt there'd be many people out-of-setting willing to pay for a fancy gothic sculpture. Still likely to be hellishly expensive, however.

What kind of 「Stand」 would the Emperor of Mankind have?

He's definitely both strong enough and fabulous enough to have one, but I'm kind of scared to think of what he'd have and what he'd do with it.

>>52268739
「Princes of the Universe」

>>52268739
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghfZfqm2fJY

>>52268452
Exalted mortal heroes Gauntlet has stuff that lets you make any kind of martial arts into a perfect attack or defense

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>>52267736
Pic for the record.

>>52268988
So basically she's Ebola-Chan

>>52267827
I do the same thing with armies, sure I could blow something up with magic but that requires standing up and facing it's general direction.
Way too much work.

Better to just conjure an army and have them do it.

>>52268755
>「We Are One」 channels the collective latent psychic might of every untainted human in both the universe and the Warp, to do with as the Emperor wills.
Yeah?
No?
It's too strong, isn't it? Maybe just a few lightyears in realspace or something.

>>52269096
Or even just a single planet/system. Because a few light years generally does not encompass nearby systems, but the right planet or system will give you a whole fuckton of psychic might to draw from.

>>52266280
Not directly, but my companions and avatars have.

>>52268640
He'll, even discounting time travel TARDIS's are silly advanced. Remember that episode where a scavenger was in the TARDIS and tried to have his conputer value one room? It came back as "incalculable" " More valuable than the total sum of any currency". Which becomes more i pressure when you do sider the general level of advancement in the Doctor Who universe, and just how many species and economies there must be.

>>52269329
That makes no sense. Why would anyone have a computer made to value things that can possibly have a reading of "nah brah, not enough money". Either it has a value based on the materials and labour to construct it or it's value is subjective based on what the owner would be willing to sell it for/buyers would be willing to pay for it.

Going "It costs more then any amount of money" only makes sense if the machine doing that reading somehow had the absolute value of all things in currency and could read them out but that's so fucking stupid on so many levels.

>>52269358
Doctor Who is not known for making sense.

>>52269358
The thing being scanned apparently gave a readout of "Sensor detects everything you could possibly want." "Living metal. Bespoke engineering. Whatever machine you require, this system will build it."

So an argument could be made that computer was valuing every possible machine that could ever be made, plus the value of the tech that was constructing it.

But essentially >>52269370

>>52269391
Even then that's not 'beyond the limits of currency', it's just a fuck hueg number.

God damn that rustled me.

>>52269358
remember all money that the computer was aware of is still a finite amount of money,the value of what >>52269391 said can be greater than that.

>>52269398
That's even more stupid Bancho. Who would make a computer that values things but only works within a certain amount of currency? It'd be totally useless for the inevitable event that something would be worth more then that defined amount.

For example- ignoring that it'd massively depreciate in value, it's not hard to work out what all the gold in the Earth's mantle would be worth using the current gold prices. It's certainly far more then all money on earth put together but it isn't incalculable. Only an utter retard would make a worth measuring computer, based on currency, that is limited to just how much currency is in circulation.

>>52269418
Every computer has a max limit on how far it can calculate, it could just be that the value of the TARDIS is enough to make it reach an error range

>>52269418
it's a flaw of economics, not a flaw of the computer. If something's value is greater than the sum of all money you can't value it in money! this is just common sense. and There is also the possibility that the computer has finite capacity and encountered a buffer Overrun error in the calculation Since the amount of money involved was too great,finite computing can only use so many digits.

>>52269427
But an error message is different from what the other anons have told us it responded with. I can accept an error message fine. It outright saying "This is more valuable then any currency" is not an error message. Even just going 'This costs infinite dollars" is better.

>>52269429
Refer back to the first post. You can always value things in money, whether based on how it was made (And countless other factors) or how big the likely prices people would pay for it are. Machines do not measure based on sentiment.

This is also the fucking future where computers that can figure out the monetary value(Or apparent surpassing of such) of things they have no prior experience with.

>>52269397
If the computer was programmed to calculate currency in terms of scarcity (even on a universal scale, there's still entropy to consider) and you had it scan a TARDIS (which via Block Transfer Computation and similar tech can make entropy its little bitch), then the computer is going to throw some kind of wobbly.

Another possibility that can't be discounted (hah) is that the TARDIS made the scanning computer say exactly whatever was needed to obtain the outcome the TARDIS wanted. It's as dangerous and mischievous as the Doctor is, after all.

>>52269454
Now that second one I can totally believe. The ship is almost as much a character as the Doctor in some stories.

>>52269397
Actually... COULD it be infinite?

Prices are driven by demand moreso than the cost of production, and demand is driven by the utility gained from the good.... If the machine gave "everything you could ever want" then that's infinite utility - nothing could ever be worth more to you. This, essentially, gives an inelastic demand curve - you're going to buy it now matter the cost (ignoring any budget constraint).

Which means that you can sell it for any price, and the only limiting factor is the value of the money that can be paid for it - if the economy had more money, you could charge a higher price. Which you could argue is the same thing as "more valuable than all money".

Not trying to argue here, by the way, just exploring the idea.

>>52268534
Is that what evil Jumpers daily life looks like?

>>52269465
I find that line of thinking has some really silly applications if you extend it beyond Tardises. I can do an absolute shitload of things with a hammer and some nails. With some creativity and man hours, you can make a house look much nicer and thus much pricier (Recently put in a decking area myself for a few hundred dollars, mostly the wood and some misc stuff, and some work, house leaped in value by thousands and thousands), yet they're still not selling those hammer/nails for a couple hundred dollars to me.

I'd actually be interested if anyone could give me some links to this episode/the scavenger device used, since I'm really finding that the most confusing thing and possibly insanely impressive thing of all. The only ways I, and seemingly everyone else, can see it getting a result of 'incalculable' without it being an error message was either A- Tardis told it to or B- it somehow managed to fully scan the motherfucking Tardis and figure out everything or at least a lot of things it could do.

>>52269505
I don't think that analogy holds up. There's a big difference between a hammer and nails being sold as a good and a hammer and nails being bundled in as a service where the real item of value is the time and expertise. More importantly neither you nor the store selling you nails get to determine the prices.

If you were the only person in the world who could increase the value of houses by, say, three thousand dollars - no one else in the world could possibly do that - then people would be willing to pay way more. Obviously, ypu could set the price at the max they're theortically willing to pay for it. Who else are they going to go to?

If you were selling a TARDIS, and the buyers thought they were getting there money's worth at any price (because it contains, quote literally "everything you could ever want") then the max price you could set for this unique item is by the same logic "any price".

The episode in question is 'Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS'.

>>52269584
Eh, couple problems there I guess. I don't believe there is only one Tardis left in existence at all, so whilst they're absurdly rare, on a uni/multiversal scale you're not the only guy with one on offer. Second, like with the hammer/nail thing, just having something doesn't mean you can use it. Even ignoring the fact that the Tardis can likely just not open for anyone it doesn't like and pretending it's 'only' a machine, it's still a horribly complex machine where you'd likely have no idea how to properly work any of the hyper advanced devices or mechanisms within.

It'd be like giving someone a phone that they could use to call God, because you say it can, but not telling them the number. Supposedly it has this amazing ability but realistically the buyer is never going to figure out how to work it. It might have infinite utility but it's also utility that most things would never be able to use and the few that could tend to not be the sort that use currency. Or they're dead.