/btg/ Battletech General!

That isn't ours.

>>52264084
Amusingly, you used one of Plog's new pieces that *aren't* ours.

>>52264132
Thank god, lams are ugly

>>52264132
Well that is a god damn shame. That looks cool as fuck. Anyone know what it is. Who made it, what it's for etc.

>>52264132
>>52264153
That's the joke.
It's okay though.

>>52264084

AAAAAAAAAAH!!!

Every FUCKING day with these STUPID fucking MEMES! I've had it up to HERE with stupid fucking memes! You guys make me want to KILL MYSELF! Is that what you fucking want? For me to fucking KILL MYSELF and write on my suicide note "Cause of suicide: Couldn't handle all of the stupid fucking memes, killed myself"? Because that's what it might as well fucking say!

You guys are literally, L I T E R A L L Y incapable of having even the SIMPLEST of fucking discussion without "MEME THIS, MEME THAT, HAHA BUTTE HOLD, HERE'S A PIC OF PURPLE BIRD WAIFU, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA EBIN AMIRITE?" Fucking STOP IT you pathetic fucking FAGGOTS, you are such fucking cancer that I cannot even fathom how you fucking scumbags live your dumb gay lives. Don't you have a job to get to, schoolwork to finish or a family to attend to? Do you literally do ANYTHING productive with your lives other than post stupid fucking memes on the board game section of a god damn anime imageboard? You fucking people make me sick and you're damn lucky I don't have any of your fucking addresses you fucking pieces of shits. I'd spit in your faces.

>>52264341
haha butte hold

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>>52264341
Did someone say Purple Burd Waifu? have a pic of Isis Marik.

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>>52264341
ha ha purple burd waifu.

>>52264341
I have not seen this pasta before. Into the folder you go.

>>52264413
Fuck off medron

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>>52264341

>>52264341
I read that as 'schoolwork to fetish'
guess I've been reading too many clan novels about sibkos.

>>52264153

I'm kinda sad that's the case. Of course, I'm also sad that the republic hasn't restarted LAM production for artillery strikes yet.

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>>52263329
added to the ever growing to do folder.

>>52264357
Just don't use that outer glow. The sprite is solid otherwise, everything else is just practice.

and Sentinels are go.

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>>52266006
Oh hey, is that based off the Shortpainter art? Pic related. Also, I'm pretty stoked you're gonna do my Catapult. That's pretty awesome, spriteanon.

>it has Brenda Bakke

Stop acting like anyone else knows who that is

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>>52263366
Traditionally you "shake down" new gear to find basic assembly errors. Subject it to catapult-shot stresses, arrested landings, that sort of thing. On a 'Mech, we're talking more like jumping jacks and a few marathons around the city. If you don't do that properly, a bad electronic connection or a small hairline fracture in the engine casing can make you, literally, burst into flames when you're >not< prepared to deal with it. Or, as happened on one of the aircraft carriers I was working on, a brand-new tailhook will abruptly sever along a series of microfractures that didn't appear on a standard X-ray, and required an entirely new testing protocol so birds didn't abruptly end up in the drink.

>>52263487
To be perfectly honest, I like Blade Runner better than RoboCop, and I still prefer the other gun design.

>>52266207

God, so glad I worked on birds that used a runway that wasn't fucking ridiculous. Ground-based launches and maintenance are so much easier.

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>>52266100
>Stop acting like anyone else knows who that is

She was nobody when she played Sergeant Nim in Gunhed, but the bigger role I remember was as Michelle Rodham Huddleston (the female characters all had the middle name "Rodham" aping then-First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton) with Charlie Sheen and Valeria Golino in Hot Shots Part Deux.

>>52266324
haha brenda bakke

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>>52266058
Yeah, I like his work.

>>52266058
That really looks like the oddball lovechild of a Cicada and an Ostsol, and I like it

>>52264413
Why is Char associated with Marik, anyway? Is it just because she's French? Wouldn't that map on better to the Fed Suns?

>>52268175
I think the lad just preferred blondes and purple birds is all

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>>52264084

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I tried to spruce the TRO up a little, what do you think Muninn/anons?

>>52268175
I think it's partly because she was effectively the leftovers as all the other girls were way more easily associated with successor states. Which in a way makes the association even more appropriate.

Battlebump

For ComStar/WoB service field designations are they capitalized? Like Adept Rho-III John Smith or Adept rho-III John Smith?

>>52269056
Could you hook an anon who hasn't lurked nearly enough to see them all in one place with just that, please?

>>52270261
Quoting from Sarna:
>For example, Adept XI-Alpha designates an Adept HPG ComTech with eleven years of service while Precentor VIII-Tau designates a Precentor in involved in ComStar's Archives Branch who has served at that level for eight years.

>>52270717
Shoot. Most sourcebooks I've seen list the number of year in service after the designation. Is Sarna wrong or are they?

>>52269006

Not that I don't love the Marik Awesome, but why is it being the sidebar art in the section on medium mechs, and more specifically a Drac mech?

>>52270932
Generic sidebar art?

>>52270932
IT's a place-holder.

>>52270932
>sk

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Urbie-bump

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>>52271613

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>>52271735
I can be just as silly as you can!

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>>52271903
That's hardly silly at all.

Now THIS. This is a silly mech.

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>>52269006
Too flashy for me.

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>>52272202
How, how DARE YOU, sir. Now I have to go to Urbie police work stats!

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>>52272523

Brains and guts!

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>>52272523

oh my god it's adorable!

Since that is the mech police urbie, we also need a normal police urbie.

>>52272609

Wait, you've got a mech that literally has a revolver and you gave it an AC-5 instead of a RAC 5?

For shame.

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>>52272609
I had a feeling you'd be calling. Nice to see you.

>>52272666
However... behold my true purple bird form and despair!!!

A very long while back somebody in these threads made a bunch of fluff-compliant lances for each of the Great Houses using the introbox mechs. Do any of you happen to have those lance lists lying around?

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>>52272723

BROTHER, I DON'T THINK YOU REALIZE JUST HOW PURPLE THIS BIRD THE MACHO MAN IS! THE MARIK CREAM RISES TO THE TOP OH YEAH! THE MACHO MAN IS HERE, AND HE'S HERE TO DO ONE THING, AND THAT IS TO TAKE YOU TO THE LIMIT.

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>>52272737

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>>52272918
You made an Urbie that scoots it's butt across the floor while on fire!!
You want Urbie! YOU GET CAPS LOCK URBIE!
BEHOLD, NATASHA KERENSKY'S PUNISHMENT MECH, THE URBIE VARIANT OF THE WARHAMMER!

>>52272922
Thanks friend.

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>>52273028
any time

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Oh my god this thing is adorable. Now I wanna make a tiny clan elemental built like a mini Timber Wolf

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>>52272982

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>>52272684
>Wait, you've got a mech that literally has a revolver and you gave it an AC-5 instead of a RAC 5?
>For shame.

RAC5's didn't exist when I designed >>52272609 back c. 1992.

>>52272723
>I had a feeling you'd be calling. Nice to see you.

Thanks. Truth is, I'm here almost every day. I just don't always have a lot to contribute.

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>>52272982

YOU CAN'T STOP THE MACHO MAN'S MAIN MECH. HE'LL HIT YOU SO FAST AND SO HARD YOU WON'T EVEN SEE IT COMING. HE'S BETTER THAN THE BEST, HE'S THE GALAXY'S GREATEST MECH PILOT.

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Urbanmechs are boring, post FAST.

>>52273087
I probably should pay one of the artists to draw a MAD hunching over a group of Marauders like a mother hen.

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>>52273165
It only gets worse. (Pic related.)

>>52273173
In any case I love your art and designs.

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>>52273280
Not my best work, but I posted it before and I love this old Virtual-On design, so... FAST! (part 1)

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>>52273617
And part 2 of FAST!!!

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So anons, which do you like better?
(1)

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>>52273781
(2) longer turret barrel

>>52273800
I like the better-hung marauder

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>>52273800
I like the longer barrel. It reminds me more of the original with a new 2017 flair.

>>52273800
The barrel is well over the cockpit in the official art for the Shimseen.

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>>52273881
Yeah, I'm aware of that, but style trumps all in the tiny ass sprite world. This just doesn't read well to me at all

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>>52270620

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same as 1 but blank panel/nose glass only

>>52274034
Fedsuns girl best girl.

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>>52274007

I've got you senpai.

>>52274007
Well the sprite in MM just makes the cockpit fatter.

>>52274034
The sad/good part is I have no idea who any of these are.

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>>52274346
Truly SCIENCE.

Probably run with pic related as release

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>>52274346
But is it ribbed for her pleasure? Does it taste like lemon, strawberries or chocolate? Does it glow in the dark? How well does it vibrate when it goes off? Huh? Huh?! HUH?!

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>>52274346
we need to go longer

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>>52273603

but wait, there's more!

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>>52274645

my sides

>>52274486
What if you put a RAC on it?

What if the RAC had RACs?

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>>52274705
My final form! (It's all I got left. Ha.)

>>52274645
>this one weird trick will add TWENTY FEET to your autocannon

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>>52274828

Are you kidding? I've been making these up as we go along!

>>52274985
So have I, but I ran out of steam. (Running on ICE today.) However your last Urbie needs a cowboy hat. You know what faction needs this one, yes?

>>52274705
You should feel bad about this.
by that I mean I love you.

>>52274828
This has made my day. I'm sadly going to find a use for it and play with it tonight. Much to the dismay of any infantry.

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>>52274645
If only I wasn't limited to 84x72 pixels, (and even that clips/no draws on horizontal facings)

MAD COLLECTION
(Shimarauder, MWO, Shimmyseen)
If I was super cool, I would research who makes what and assign visual chassis based on Factional manufacturer. But I am not. Was thinking of saving the Glaug chassis for the MAD II but I dunno.
Anybody got any cool ideas on which sprites to use for what so I can start drawing the 1,000,000 canon Marauder variants?

>>52275046
Yeah that Urbie-hydra should have different colored "heads" kind of like some Record of Lodoss War abomination. Red, blue, green, gold and black or something.

>>52275037
I would assume Davions since they're the ones with the Autocannon fetish.

That or the Taurians because they're the TEXANS IN SPAAAAAAACE!

>>52275106
I was thinking Taurians, but yeah, the Feds could use one, but what hat would it wear? An American military style green beret?

>>52275143

A yellow cowboy hat that reads "Make the Federated Commonwealth Great Again"

>>52275169
errr, baseball cap.

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>>52270620
There's also this one.

>>52274378
It's Infinite Stratos, a battle harem anime about 'mechs and national stereotypes.

>>52276023

even in an image macro the burd gets pushed off to the side

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Still kicking since 2780

Fuck Legs

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>>52270620
>>52276023
There's also a Girls Und Panzer one for the Invading Clans (nothing for the home clans has been made as far as I'm aware).

>>52276336
who makes these autistic things?

>>52276393

autists

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>>52276447
fair enough

>>52276393
Pretty sure the IS (get it?) one is from this general, actually.

>>52276539
true, i've seen it around before. but the gup one seems random as hell and i'm concerned stuff like that will derail threads into "what faction is each girl in this tank crew?"

>>52276336

Pedo/10

>>52276578
Even if that does happen all someone needs to do is shout XIN SHENG or WRITERS DON'T KNOW THE LORE or MUH PERIPHERY and we'll be back to furious argumentation again.

>>52276774

So I guess the real question is which anime girl represents XIN SHENG the best.

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>>52276578
Personally I think Saori would be a purple bird. She reminds me of Isis.

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Reminder that tuberats aren't human

>>52276023
>wrasslehog is the protag
>not comstar

>>52276023
I'd do all six, honestly
>>52277026
>comstar
>not terran hegemony

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>>52275169
>>52275215
Would we need to manufacture a hot wife mecha for that Urbie?

>>52277236

Shit, I JUST realized that I should have named that mech "High Noon"

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Aside from 12 Panthers or 12 Dragons, how would you make a Kurita company?

>>52278415
3 jenners, 3 panthers, 4 dragons and 2 grand dragons

>>52278501
Why are you namefagging? So far the sum total of your contribution to the thread is shitty urbieposting.

>>52278501
What about some assaults?

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>>52278516
>he doesn't namefag

>>52278415
8 Chargers and 4 Hatamotos

>>52278516

Because this is the name I always post under? Usually with regards to my campaign, my groups random matches, or posting pictures of said matches.

>>52278539

see >>52278638

Maybe some No-dachi as well

>>52278415
Command/Fire Lance with a Stalker leading an archer, a captured Valk and a Crusader
Battle Lance with two Dragons, a shad-K and a Jenner
Light Lance with a Warhammer leading three panthers

>>52278734
>Light Lance with a Warhammer leading three panthers
>light lance
>warhammer
Nigger do you even light lance? That should be some medium with a PPC, not a fucking warhammer. Just because the Dracs don't like meds a huge amount doesn't mean they don't use them.

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Reminder to shake/restore your paints. Don't let those old Ral Partha, Reaper, Polyscale, Floquil go to waste.

>>52278783
I remember reading most scout lances (in 3025) were three bugs and a Rifleman, changing it to a Warhammer doesn't seem that much of a stretch to me.

>>52278847

I could see 3 bugs and a Griffin or 3 bugs and a PHawk, but not 3 bugs and a rifleman.

>>52274034
>>52276023
>>52276336
Much obliged!

>>52278847
>remember reading most scout lances (in 3025) were three bugs and a Rifleman
What? No. The black widow company's recon lance was like that but by no means is that standard
2-3 bugs, and a pixie or 55 ton trio mech would be the most common arrangement most likely

>>52270779
When in doubt, assume Sarna is wrong, since there are morons who revert any corrections back to the wrong information.

>>52278993
>>52278865
It's been awhile and I don't remember what book I read it in, but I swear I've seen it somewhere. I've always pictured mediums in that role too, I just brought it up to help >>52278734

>>52278783
The dracs love lances with a heavy leading panthers around though, and the whammy is a good choice became of it's speed and weapon loadout that match the Panther well

>>52279113

The problem is that even a Wasp or Flea goes 6/9, and the Locust goes 8/12.

A PHawk or Griffin can keep up with the slower lights, while the Locusts push forward, but a Rifleman doesn't have a chance of that, and unlike the PHawk and Griffin, it lacks jump jets, so any terrain at all only slows it down even further.

>>52278415
Akumas and Striders

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>>52278415
>Aside from 12 Panthers or 12 Dragons, how would you make a Kurita company?
Stop meming and actually use the other machines that they make? Throw some Star League shit in and play Ghosts? Maybe Azami?

As of 3025, the Kuritas were making all of the following additional 'Mechs, plus some thirty refits:
Locust, Wolverine (and actually an excellent variant at that), Pixie, Quickdraw, Archer, Lancelot, Atlas, and Charger
In addition, the Catapult (post-3033), Daboku, Hatamoto-Chi, and Victor ~the War of 3039.

They also have refits for or gifts of:
Mongoose, Spider, Wasp, Kintaro, Shadow Hawk, Sentinel, Guillotine, and Thug. At a minimum.

Not that that's a super-great list, but it's at least varied. Throw in a couple FedSuns or Steiner salvage units and you've got a party.

>>52279638
They also had a lot of Hunchbacks IIRC

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>>52279113
It's in Black Widow Company. Which is for BattleDroids, not BattleTech. That said, "Gentleman" Johnny Clavell switches over to a Hornet around the Battle of Misery and never looks back. I'd throw him the SPA that lets you push some extra movement out of your machine.

>>52278993
The Wolverine and Pixie are both Command 'Mechs, and common in Recon lances, but there's a lot of other useful things you can stick in there to stiffen the line. Cicada, Assassin, Fire Javelin and a lot of the other "Superbugs" all work well too.

>>52279156
Honestly, that's a "mugger" Fire Lance for operations in broken terrain, not really a Scout lance. A proper Kurita Scout lance would probably be a swarm of Locusts or Wasps with a Spider or Dragon or something backing them up. They tend to pull the jets off of their Mediums for more sinks/armor/guns, so the Drac Mediums are pretty shit at maneuver warfare.

>>52279638
Sorry man, it's just hard to know what they were actually making like around 3025-3050 because their sourcebooks have been scant on details or there have been retcons.
All I was sure on were Dragons, Panthers, Atlases, Quickdraws and Locusts.

>>52279638
Is there a definitive list for refits by faction for 3025?

>>52279638
You forgot the Stinger LAM. They had also just taken Quentin in 3025 itself and it only cranked out half a dozen Atlases a year so not exactly relevant to 3025 compositions.

Also
>TRO 3039 retcon material
Disgusting.

>>52280687

Master Unit List, but be prepared for retardation where the Suns get pretty much everything decent regardless of who makes it or does the refit and the idea of putting a Large Laser on a Wolverine is so fucking mind-blowing only the FWL can manage it for like 400 years.

>>52280772
Anything fan made that isn't MUL?

>>52280747
> They had also just taken Quentin in 3025 itself
I was wondering why Sarna called it a Feddie world. But it's listed as a Drac one in the 2800s so when did the Feddies take it?

>>52280781
Xotl's RATs have faction lists for 3025 that only have non-salvage, actually-fielded stuff, and each list tell you how common any given mech is within that faction.

The MUL by contrast has a barrier for entry of "even a handful" gets a faction rated as having "access", which is much vaguer.

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>>52280687
>Is there a definitive list for refits by faction for 3025?
Sort of the MUL. But I'm putting one together myself. Plus the MUL lists >anything< the faction has at least one or two of, not the >common< variants.

>>52280671
No worries, I know it's a pain in the ass. That's why I'm doing the research in the first place.

>>52280747
True, but it's one of those things where the top-end of the Kurita establishment is burning court favor to get them, so a lot of the top brass is trooping around in an Atlas. And they're the ones who get art..

>>52280807
Being an old Hegemony world, it traded hands several times during the Succession Wars. Even the Caps took a crack at it.

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>>52276916
We are, indeed, more than human, freeborn peasant.

>>52278827
grazie, paisano

>>52281183
Free floating atoms as the result of Clan ER PPCs is certainly more than human.

You guys sure take seriously a fictional story about army men and their robots

>>52281485
>Describing almost every sci-fi miniature game

>>52281485
You sure take us seriously :^)

Say I want to hand out a few primitive mech factories to the small periphery states (lothian league, circinians ect) in 3025.
What would be some good designs to distribute, and where would you put them?

>>52281908
Unseen, all unseen for sure. However maybe to make things interesting throw in a renegade Assassin, Grasshopper or hell, even a really slow Cyclops plant. Make them something either weird, or something possibly others would want.
Also lots of bugs. Bugs everywhere.

For a brawler, would you recommend 3x SSRM-4s or 2x SSRM-6s?

>>52281908
Nobody had those old blueprints until the Dallas core. They were so old they were lost. Best bet is a homegrown custom, maybe based on existing industrial design.

Then locate the factory on any sort of existing industry they have, even if it's just the capital drop port or a munitions plant.

>>52281978
I'd dump the streaks and go 3xSRM6

Anyone got TTS: Iron Land or Spotlight: Stone's Trackers yet for the Anons?

How would you compare the original 55 ton trio?

Using 3025 as a base I'd say: Griffin > Wolverine-M > Shadow Hawk > Wolverine

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>>52281978
Honestly, they're about the same. On shitty numbers, you're more likely to land >some< damage with the fours, but with a brawler they're gonna wind up equivalent in damage. You do also get slightly better crit-space and ammo/weight efficiency with the fours. But unless you split them across the torso or arms it's gonna make you look like a twink.

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>>52282794
>How would you compare the original 55 ton trio?
Griffin-1S = WVR-3M -> WVR-3R -> WVR-3K -> GRF-1N -> SHD-2K -> SHD-2H -------------------------------------------> SHD-2D

>>52281908
Dervish is a good primitive line to give someone. So is the primitive Griffin. If you want to be super spicy, the primitive Emperor makes a hell of a periphery assault and looks baller as fuck to boot.

>>52278827
>remember I haven't touched my 40k army in six years, it's just been in a bag moving house to house with me
>all the paint is Citadel
eh

>>52282900

Griffins are amazing, Wolverines are good, Shadow Hawks are garbage, the 2K is the only halfway decent SHawk

>>52282794
The Griffin is probably the best, followed by the Wolverine 6M, then the Shadow Hawk 2K. Wolverine 6K is good too, and the 6R is decent. The Shadow Hawk 2H is bad and the 2D is utter garbage.

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>>52283138
>all the paint is Citadel

All the more reason not to let them dry up! That stuff's expensive!

>>52281978
If you care more about heat, go with the SSRM 6s. If you care more about ammo, go with the SSRM 4s. The actual difference is relatively minor though.

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>>52283155

>shadow hawks are garbage
fite me u retarded namefag

>>52283381
The only good shadow hawk is a drac shadow hawk.

>>52281183
>this is what ordinary trueborn actually believe
>laughing elstars.jpg

Actually, there could be some potential there. Elstars becoming a more common thing and eventually conclude that they're as beyond regular trueborn as the hardcore trueborn consider themselves beyond freeborn, leading to a conflict as the elstars try to boot the trueborn into second class status.

Of course that assumes elstars become something more than a footnote

>>52283402
/r/ing pics of Drac mechs

>>52283339
Oh I get you, they're like $6 a bottle down here. I was considering using them to paint my battletech intro set but I only played it twice, always just run megamek instead because I have nobody to play with.

>>52283381
I feel like at this point any new nametags need to fight trials of position against NEA, Muninn, and CampaignAnon before they are allowed to namefag.

>>52283621
That is not a terribly high bar anon. Unless you make the trial in Aerotech.

>>52283339
Sweet Eldar Dreadnoughts, dood!

>>52283621

or at least post something other than complete garbage

part of the reason we like (or at least tolerate) CA, Muninn, and NEA and some others is because they actually contribute to the community, instead of posting crap like sideways-firing rotary missile launchers or shoddy urbanmech designs

>>52283684
>sideways-firing rotary missile launchers
That was at least fully thought out and moderately interesting. Still kinda retarded but interesting enough to bother considering for a hot minute.

>>52283666
Are you saying it's not a high bar because those three suck, or because they'll all kill the new guy?

>>52283908
CA and Munin are average players. Never played NEA. I don't consider average a high bar.

I imagine NEA is a damn terror in Aero though.

>>52283976
Anecdotal evidence suggests that CA and Muninn can both play above average when not derping around testing designs and such. And NEA was a demo agent and in the best battletech group in the world, so he's probably pretty damn good.

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So apparently when you set out to design an Introtech Heavy 'Mech with an AC/20 because there really isn't one (which is strange) you end up with what looks like a Thunder and an Enforcer had a baby. Or something. The 2R is a bit odd in that it has a higher-heat energy weapon and less SHS, but the change causes a re-bracketing and so you don't actually need as many sinks, though you do gain walking heat, which isn't a huge deal, since you can just not fire the LRM5 once every few turns you're fighting at long range.

>>52284022
If you consider them above average I would suggest broadening the number of people you have played against. I especially suggest you spend some time playing with what is left of the mekwars servers. Calling them average is no slur. But realize that the level of play that can be achieved in this game is ridiculous.

>>52284077
And at the same time there are people on here and on the OF who can barely make a mech walk. I think MekWars is considerably above the average.

>>52284112
It may be I have a skewed perspective of player skill. I played most of my games with the people on those servers and it is how I judge skill. Some of those guys are just inhuman in their ability to corral an opponent.

>>52284077
Having played on MekWars, the fact that either of them use tactics other than circle of death puts them a cut above. Most MekWars players were pretty trash. I've speculated on Muninn pulling off a nasty envelopment and coordinated combined arms assault. Never seen CA play, although I have seen a couple of AARs from way back where he seemed pretty good. Relies on nukes too much though.

>>52284157
Spectated, rather.

>>52284157
When you're playing with a battalion of RWA troops against a regiment and a half of SLDF, force multipliers like nukes are vital. Mostly it's memery these days. I just want real live artillery barrages that can wipe out mechs without spending a half dozen turns on it.

>>52284155
What do you define as good, though? Your comment about corraling an opponent makes me wonder.

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>>52284022
>>52283976
They're a bit above average for actual players, which is to say considerably better than most of the people who flap their mouths about BT. NEA is pretty damned good on the ground and (seriously) one of the top ten best players in the world in the air. BattlePope is just hilariously fucking lucky. Not >good< luck, you understand. Just >funny< luck.

I could probably namefag around here, but there's really no point. I like being able to post stupid shit without having it linked to me, and likewise I like having my new shit judged on its own merits rather than Anon's opinions of my past works. Just my twain of C-Bills though.

>>52284225
Well it's not like the fanbase doesn't remember players for being hilariously unlucky. JadeHellbringer is known mostly for the fact that if something can go wrong, it most certainly will.

>>52284245
And for being a cunt

>>52284263
True, though the latter came about because of recognition of the former.

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>>52284245
True that. I mostly play like a goddamned lunatic, but somehow it works for me. Then again, most people are expecting you to play like Princess, and nobody seems to know how to split fire these days.

>>52284225
Like I said before I don't know about Nea as I haven't played him. Your assessment about matches mine on the others.

Average or a bit above average is not a high bar.

>>52284326
Concentrating fire is strictly dominant in most circumstances

>>52284332
My point is that what you think of as average is actually a standard deviation above average at least. Which is "actually good" territory.

>>52284022
>And NEA was a demo agent and in the best battletech group in the world, so he's probably pretty damn good.

Former Cincy here. Toronto's straight-up the best at small games, Cincy's better at larger games.

NEA is the best player in the group tho. IIRC he's never placed less than third in any of the tournaments the group ran and wins more often then not. When Cincy went up against Toronto at Gencon a few years back in a bunch of 1 on 1 lance sized games, Toronto had a 6 year undefeated record (5-0 every year). Cincy lost the overall series 1-2-2, and NEA had the only clean win. Toronto's guys haven't lost a game in those matches since then either, so as far as I'm aware he has the only outright win against that group in the history of the program. I think the only thing he hasn't done much of is double blind games, and that's just because running that shit is hard in person and he doesn't play megamek very much.

I honestly and genuinely can't recall the last time I saw him lose a match that wasn't due to overwhelming bad luck. And no, do not ever let him run aerospace. He NPCd in a campaign a few years ago and got a couple of normal Corsairs against a pair of custom Hammerheads with 1/1 pilots and a pair of Royal Stukas, and killed one of the HHs, crippled the other, and killed one of the Stukas before retreating off the field with both of his planes.

It's not even bragging. The guys hugely experienced at the game, learns scary fast, and studies warfare and tactics damn near obsessively because he does stuff with fighting and violence as his job. I mean the fucker literally wrote the actual published manual on Leviathans tactics.

>motherfucker NEA you'd still better be avoiding the internet until after this thread drops off. you aren't here to get compliments

>>52284225
>hi drew, jon, or travis

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>>52284371
>Concentrating fire is strictly dominant in most circumstances
Most. But far from all. And there are times when you need to put fire from, say, your LRMs onto something sitting at eight while you shove a couple AC-20 slugs and a boot up the ass of something else.

>>52284388
That very well could be. If so then I bow out to someone whose sense of player skill isn't skewed.

Also does anyone put together pickup games anymore? Those used to be a blast.

>>52284437
Speaking of Muninn and CA, they're doing occasional pickup games for TRO playtesting.

>>52284437
Go by the IRC and ask them. I know a few of them play MM; CA and Muninn when they aren't testing things and another fella who I won't name here because he doesn't namefag so I figure he prefers to be anon.

>>52284467
>>52284473
I will have to do that. It is always fun to find some people to drink brews and smash mechs up with.

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>>52284430
>hi drew, jon, or travis
None of the above. I'm from the PNW, and I spent a good chunk of my gaming career in California and Florida. I've just watched them play online and talked a good bit with Pope and Muninn. Seen NEA play at a convention as well, although I've not headed up to bug him.

>>52284494
I'm sure they would love to have you. The channel could use fresh blood and people who can actually talk shop with the denizens and not waste people's time.

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>>52284473

It's cool. I just almost never namefag because most of the time I'm just shitposting anyways. Also because I don't usually create much OC, I just run an AToW campaign and play a good bit of MM. If unless I'm preoccupied with something in particular, I'm usually down to play a game. It's always fun to smash giant robits against each other.

>>52284590

We definitely would.

The alternative is cooking questions and autism.

>>52284638
Or questions like "Why are UACs bad?" and "The bot is beating my assault company, wat do?"

>>52284638
>>52284653
>autism
>can't beat the bot
Ha, I know who that sad sack is.

>>52284022
>>52284430
>Toronto is the best at Battletech
>PGI is Canadian
>Mektek is also Canadian

When did Canadians achieve such a stranglehold on giant robots? Perhaps they were infused with it when Gundam was first brought over in the 90s and American distributors opted to have it dubbed cheaply in Canadian studios?

>>52284769
Well when you're snowed in for 10 months out of the year your options are suicide or getting gud at giant robot board games.

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>>52284832
See also why the Northwest US is a hotbed of BT activity. We just get rain instead of snow.

>>52283426
Yeah, I'd like to see more happen with elstars.

>>52283976
>>52284022
>>52284155
>>52284157
I wouldn't put myself too far above average. I've only played a small pool of people, haven't played vs Clans too much, and prefer a specific style of game, combined arms double blind shenanigans.

Buttlebump

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I don't usually work in colour, and I had completely forgotten about this picture... which my aunt uncovered from a stack of papers at my grandmother's house. I hope to have the original back in my possession in a few months.

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>>52287224
"In hindsight, charging an Atlas in this Wasp may not have been the best ide--"

Though the mechwarrior can't really be blamed if it was one of those stealth Atlases. Tricky bastards, those.

>>52285018
The fuck is up with her face

>>52287413
She got the Animuus.

>>52284430
>TFW you live in toronto but aren't very good at battletech

Day feels slow. Rate my Clan Invasion era assault company I'm putting together for an upcoming game. Only have half the figurines right now and I'm not 100% on the paint scheme I'll use.

Alpha Lance
>AS7-K Atlas
>AS7-K Atlas
>STK-5M Stalker
>STK-5M Stalker
Bravo Lance
>BLR-3M BattleMaster
>VTR-9K Victor
>GOL-3M Goliath
>GOL-3M Goliath
Charlie Lance
>LGB-7V Longbow
>LGB-7V Longbow
>LGB-7V Longbow
>LGB-7V Longbow

Suggestions on era-appropriate variants or mech selections? I've considered swapping in some other options but ones like the Thug feel too retconny.

>>52289641
To add to this, my Atlases are technically going to be custom models but are still in the works. I swapped out their SHS for DHS, but due to crit space had to drop it to 15. So I have 5 free tons for each one and I'm not entirely sure what to do with them.

The guys I'm playing with are cool with Semi-Guided LRM ammo so I'm planning on using that with my Longbows and considering adding TAG to my Atlases or other mechs.

>>52289641
Assault companies generally don't consist of 12 assaults, for a first thing

>>52289641
Kinda spastic. The Atlases and Victor are full Quentin-made Combine. The Goliaths and Longbows are FWL. Pick a state and stick to it.

Lastly, way too much repetition. Assaults are rare enough they don't get whole bunches of the same exact designs and assault companies just mean they are assault heavy, not 100% assaults, unless you're some gimmick unit like the Crushers or Barber's Marauder II's.

Like say Charlie Lance might be two Longbows and two Archers instead. Alpha might be one Atlas, two Hatamoto Chi's, and a Grand Dragon or something. That sort of thing.

>>52289870
>>52289894
I should have said so but the point of the match is both forces are "gimmick" units of all assaults. Thought it was obvious, my bad.

>Kinda spastic.
Trades during an era of them. Half the mechs were picked because I already had the minis, the other half were determined with the FM FWL RAT.
Now that you mention it though a Hatamoto-Chi might work in place of one of the Atlases.

>too much repetition
This I was thinking on. The whole lance of Longbows might look cool but it's more a SL era of homogeneous forces thing.

>>52289950
Depending on how late you're playing in the Clan Invasion-era you could change out an Atlas for a Hatamoto-Chi 28T. Lose the C3 Slave unit and add a Tag unit to use in sync with your fire support lance. Bam!

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I see you guys are getting bored over here. Let's change that!

Do you think the Battletech game is going to have some sort of targetted animations for DFAs?
It's definitely doable, though the pose in question would be a hard one. I'd go with Inazuma Kick but hey, everyone has their own idea of what the best one to use could be (and you need a different one for the hens, anyway).
They're probably only going to make two, if at all.

So, what would your choice for kicking the head in of some poor sod be?
Assuming they don't go the lazy route and simply put the standing model on top of another model, that would be criminally low-budget, minimally viable take on things.

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wrangled a few pixels and now I think the newseen Marauder is looking better

>>52290793
As much as I am looking forward to the game, I don't feel like HBS really has the animation skills to pull off anything interesting. Judging by the pre-alpha sluggish jump animations and the hilariously cartoonish punch animations, DFAs are gonna be a slow jumping mech does a two point landing on another mech and the latter mech then does an over-exaggerated slow motion collapse with numbers popping out.
And as cool as an Inazuma kick is, there really is not much precedent for mech martial arts. Mech Judo would totally make sense, Mech Shaolin Kung Fu, not so much.

>>52289793
If you're going to throw that much LRM fire support in there, have at least one machine from Alpha and Bravo mount NARC, and have the Longbows carry some NARC-capable ammunition. Indirect fire without need for a spotter.

>>52290720
Sounds like a good idea to look into.

>>52291063
The Stalkers mount NARC. I was also thinking of adding TAG to a couple in the first two lances so the Longbows (or maybe Archers if I change the lance up) can use SGLRMs.

>>52291138
Combine Alpha and Bravo then. Put an Atlas, a Stalker, and a Goliath each in them. Put the BattleMaster and Victor where you see fit. That way each lance reinforces each other and can also operate independently. You're not having a lance that's just direct-fire support, for example.

>>52291058
>hilariously cartoonish punch animations

The punch animations weren't the best but they showed some promise.
After seeing nothing but MW:O for years, it was definitely a massive step up.

The Inazuma Kick is an easy suggestion for awesomness but it come to mind as one of the easiest ways to show a targetted kick from high up (as per the massive arcs seen in the demo).
How else would you kick someone in the head, anyway?

>>52291207
That might work. I initially grouped them based on movement speeds (3/5 for Alpha and 4/6 for Bravo)

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>>52291227
On reviewing this gif, yeah, they aren't as bad as the lower res preview gif I had seen made them out to be. I have actually never played MWO, I just downloaded it for all the free Mech reference models, so I have no idea what the animation cycles look like in that game.
I do give them massive props for finally bringing melee into a Battletech video game for sure.
I just don't see mechs getting horizontal mid air for jump jet kung fu action. One leg extended further than the other before landing on another mech? Sure. On that note, there better be a kick animation planned for their "Engage in close combat" command.

>>52291622
>One leg extended further than the other before landing on another mech? Sure.

Well, the whole showiness of the martial arts moves is generally because simply extending a leg further like that would most likely have you fall on your ass after the hit.
The DFA rules don't really require that IIRC.

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>>52291705
Yeah, because DFAs aren't a kick, they are a crushing maneuver. Not that JJ powered bicycle kicks would be terrible, just not really lore friendly

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>>52291781
>they are a crushing maneuver.

You still gotta aim unless you go full Mexican luchadore and simply throw the whole thing on top of them.

>>52291883
Sure, you have to aim the bottoms of the mechs feet to hit the mech.

But this notion that the giant battlemechs have the same sort of agility and flexibility as a chinese trapezoid artist or an olympic gymnast is just naff.

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>>52291883

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Working on the customized Atlas AS7-K. Changed the heat sinks out to doubles like I said here >>52289793 and added TAG for coordination with the fire support lance.

Recommendations on what to do with the remaining four tons?

>>52291883
A full-on bodyslam variant of the standard DFA could be fun
Like, the attacker takes more damage, and on the standard table and automatically falls, but the defender takes massive amounts of damage and automatically falls as well

>>52292244
Medium lasers, as always

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>>52292158
>>52292062
>>52291781
>>52291883
>people insisting that you can't perform sick aerials with mechs

Why even progress technologically?

>>52292444
I'd imagine protomechs being capable of something like that, and clan battle armour.

But a 20-100 ton giant robot behaving like a 17-year-old french girl on their olympic gymnastics team, doing multiple somersaults then landing on one foot with perfect balance and barely disturbing the surface it landed on?

There are limits to how far you can stretch the suspension of disbelief.

>>52292498
>There are limits to how far you can stretch the suspension of disbelief.

Well, realistically speaking, not being able to do such things at all is what is the main cuase of problems with the suspension of disbelief.
They're super giant, super great robots of the future! They can't hit shit past 200 meters. They can easily out-fucking-run any conventional car and a good amount of sportscars! But they can barely raise their arms. They can uproot trees and bash each other with them! But they can't carry more than one 10th of their weight, making them some of the worst lifting machines humanity ever developed. Et cetera.

Battletech is not really all that hard on managing suspension of disbelief, it simply pushes it in another direction and waves off problems with the good old, "A wizard did it."
Also, there's a great deal of space between being able to deliver a fucking kick and doing olympic tier gymnastics.

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>>52287860
Honestly? Most of the really good players out there are more than willing to show you the ropes and help you get better. They need opponents on their own level, or at least close to it, to have fun. It's only the insecure fuckheads who validate their shitty lives with board games that are afraid of people getting "better than them".

>>52292062
>>52291883
I really wouldn't mind if they did flying body presses, but the rules do suggest leg hits.
>tfw the charge animation isn't a lariat

>>52292244
Some SRMs to play around with Inferno and/or NARC ammo. SW and Clan-era Assaults have really poor heat handling in general, so slapping them around with a few Inferno rounds can really screw with your opponent. Unless everyone is going full "stuff it ALL WITH DHS", of course.

>>52292498
I'm not saying gymnastics, I'm saying pro wrassling/lucha moves

>>52292742

That's why I take any chance I can to teach new players (and/or get them into AtB if they're so inclined) - gotta get people into it and then teach them enough for me to have a good challenge. Not quite there yet, but I've got some guys that show promise.

>>52292787
Even those maneuvers, acted and exaggerated as they are, require a greater amount of agility and flexibility than one would think.

Try to imagine an Atlas performing a suplex. how far its torso would wave to stretch and bend in order to achieve that maneuver?

Battlemech maneuvering is described as being like a man in armor. Imagine being dressed in an EOD bomb disposal suit, and trying to do a suplex with a bad back.

>>52292953
Men in armor can suplex though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzTwBQniLSc

>>52292953
>>52292987

Really depends on how mobile you feel the limb joints are in battlemechs. Per the art, they seem rather nimble, which lends itself to more options.

>>52292987
There wasn't exactly a suplex in that video.

>>52292987

Sure, if you cheat using modern steel and weight-saving measures people in armor can do that. Real knights were short manlets who were habitually malnourished and could barely stay standing in their armor and had to be winched onto their horse. All that video proves is that modern people are larger and stronger than people in the middle ages, and that modern materials are stronger and lighter.

Nice job making a retarded argument.

hey, does anyone know what colors the Rim Worlds CASPAR M5 drones were painted?

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>>52293150
Assuming they were crazy enough to waste dock time repainting them from the SLN Olive Drab, MegaMek claims the Rim Worlds Navy used pic related or similar for their ships. So everyone's a Confederate in space.

>>52293105
3/10, read an actual book about history instead of getting all your info from iternet memes.

>>52293105
Real knights were nobility and ate decently for the most part, and got onto and off their own horses on the battlefield in many historical accounts. You don't run a whole village and starve. Stop confusing levies and men at arms for actual knights. Even men at arms in the 15th+ centuries did alright.

Modern materials aren't much different than 17th century full plate either because you can't form steel plates that big if your metallurgy sucks as much as you imply. It was the durability that was all over the place, mostly because heat treatment wasn't as exact without modern instruments.

Modern people on average are taller than medieval people because of serfs dragging the average down. Looking at the actual well fed people, height is pretty consistent for the last few thousand years. And the absolute shortest people were was in the 18th and 19th centuries when less meat was available worldwide.

So, um nice bait I guess.

>>52293244
And yes, I know the colors are inverted from a normal Confederate flag.

>>52293105
We have plenty accounts of knights doing very athletic things in full armor. I remember one about a group of knights who would climb ladders in full amor with just their arms. Knights were professional soldiers, their lives depended on being able to fight long and hard.

>>52293258

Some of us are old enough to have been taught actual history in schools. You don't need to depend on internet misinformation when you can read real history in a book.

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>>52293244

megameks' RWA/RWN scheme isn't canon. There isn't a canon paint scheme for like 90% of the Rim Worlds military forces. Herb's exact answer to this problem when it was brought up the year all the Amaris Coup stuff came out was, and I quote: "we didn't care."

Relevant discussion: sarna.net/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/174987/Main/174800

>>52292742
Nah, this Atlas is the exception as far as how we set things up. Each company gets one customized mech.

>>52293105
A lot of what >>52293260 said. Knights were almost always nobility. That was any kind of noble from a king down to a fief-less lord.

Later in the middle ages, when plate armor wasn't so prohibitively expensive, a lot of knights would fight dismounted, still in full armor.

Metallurgy did improve throughout the middle ages, such as making plates of better and lighter material, and designs improving so rather than needing slabs, they could segment and use thinner, lighter plates to provide equal or greater protection. This also gave better flexibility.

>>52293244
>Rim Worlds are also the Confederacy in Space
How can one faction be so perfect?

>>52293375
Hmph. Well I didn't think they were canon, but something's better than standard olive drab. But that is depressing. I keep notes on everybody's paint scheme for stuff I make.

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>>52292244

this is how i would fix a 7k without completely abandoning the original design.

>>52293518
So is this a design from 3068, or the early/mid Clan Invasion? Also, why not just paste the text into paint?

>>52293518
Did you drop the XL? I feel like switching SHS to DHS is one thing, but the XL is part of what makes the Clan Invasion-era -7K what it is.

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With the suggestions given I threw TAG into the head, added three MLs (and two got to be leg lasers due to crit limitation).

With one ton of space left I added A-Pods to each leg. It felt fluffier than adding another ML but I'm not sure I'll ever use them. Should I just go with another ML or Flamer instead?

>>52293636

Come on, an XL engine with a torso mounted gauss rifle? Forget the lack of DHS in an era where they are available, that's just unforgivable.

>>52293590
I figure it would be a refit after they realize the problems with the original design. Series 2 if you will, where they keep the same design principles of long range direct fire, but fix the outstanding problems. The Compact Gyro is really the only thing pushing it beyond its original production date, but doing that let me make the crit slots and tonnage work out better than if it used a normal gyro.

As for not ctrl-c directly into paint? I like to keep SSW's text formatting, and copying into notepad++, and then screenshotting that keeps the format for me. I just wish that SSW could easily export as pdf or jpg without having to do workarounds.

>>52293804
I'd really bump up that back CT to 15 so it will stop a heavy PPC or a gauss.

>>52293427
By being dead. Only the dead are allowed to be perfect.
See: the WoB

What's the cheesiest custom mech you've ever seen on the table? Including stuff that isn't legal anymore

>>52293837
>Come on, an XL engine with a torso mounted gauss rifle? Forget the lack of DHS in an era where they are available, that's just unforgivable.
For something in the 60s I agree but XL was all the rage in the 50s.

>>52293867
El riesgo siempre vive

>>52292742
What this Anon said. I have typically found the better players have no problem helping you improve. They tend to not get a lot of offers to play and if they can get you up to near them so much the better.

So I ran into a lot of players running certain army types on long dead mekwars servers. My least favorites being arrow units IV with homing ammo hidden on the far side of the map. With either Talons spotting on open terrain or ostcouts or similar in a jungle. Or playing against the clanner with a couple vipers with mpl's on a jungle or triple forest world. It always bothered me how far a comp like that can go as a crutch.

>>52289641
If you can I'd drop a ton of NARC pods on each of the Stalkers to add CASE to the side torsos.

>>52293992
From the really old days when the heat scale topped out at 30, I remember quite a few variations on the theme of "slow 100 tonner packed with 8+ CERPPCs", the idea being to melt a motherfucker straight out, shut down for two rounds and then restart and do it again. Some of them had less PPCs but were tarcomp'd, for even more cheese

Out of curiosity, has /btg/ ever done a "how the 3050s upgrades should have gone" challenge?

I see a fair bit of criticism over the canon upgrades. Has me thinking.

>>52293949

but they're not dead, ben rome said so :^)

>>52294271
Don't you mean Ben Emory? ;)

>>52293867
Lol what the fuck

>>52292742
My experience is the the opposite. Everyone who has ever claimed they wanted to help me improve bailed on me after a single game. Which makes trying to teach anyone I know feel bad because I am not very good.

>>52294754

The whole point of armour is to prevent internal structure damage and crits right? So having 14 armour is sub-optimal. There's no weapon the game that does 13 or 14 damage, although a LL hit and a ML hit will add up to 13 damage, so when we're allocating armour to a location, you want to be able to stop a given weapon that sits about the right threshold for a mech. The side torso rears are 10 so they'll stop a PPC, but not a Binary Laser(not that those ever get used). If they were only 9, we'd be checking for crit if a single PPC hit was taken there. So having 14 armour is rarely a terribly good thing. 15 prevents a clan ERPPC or a gauss rifle from checking for crit on the first shot, or is you get hit by 3 ML shots, the third one won't go through. Good use of armour allocation can make or break a mech. It is one of the reasons that 55tons is much MUCH stronger than 50 tons, because at 55, you can make it so every non-head location across the front of a mech will stop an AC-20. Similarly, it is a problem with the Hunchback designs, where the rear side torsos won't stop a medium laser from going through and checking for crit, and on one of those torsos, that crit is guaranteed kill, and the other merely takes away the AC-20. That one point of armour difference makes it so that a lone Locust can run up and kill a hunchback with one shot to the rear arc.


If you can, you always want to build your mechs so that they can stop a certain threshold of damage. It isn't often that one of these exact scenarios will come up, but when it does, that one point of armour can be the difference between your mech being an expanding cloud of shrapnel and simply damaged.

>>52295257
Did you really need to write that much text to simply say "I get outmaneuvered and Clan ER PPCs are OP?"

>>52293244
>>52293427
Made me recall the one thing that threw my suspension of disbelief for a big loop was how the simulator battle between Grayson Carlyle and Jaime Wolf was a recreation of the Battle of Gettysburg, but with Battlemechs. Of all the possible historical conflicts that could have been fought with giant robots, it's an American Civil War one.

>>52293437
http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=45509.0
TigerShark did some interesting schemes a while back if your interested

>>52295257

oh no

it's retarded

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Hey TeeGee, I need your laser-sharp wit.

I'm planning a bunch of potential names for some warships that my players stand a chance of getting, and knowing them they are going to take the silliest and funniest routes possible. So far, I have the "Premature Eradication" and "(I Blame) My Parents", but I'm hitting a wall fast. Any ideas?

>>52294230
Heh, I'd be down but it would get a little same-ey to be honest. You can only drop a NARC launcher so many times before everyone knows what you're gonna do.

>>52295333
3 ML is much more likely to be hitting rear arc, but the point remains that 15 is a much safer armour threshold than 14. You don't always win initiative, and with a slow mech like the Atlas, you don't really get to dictate range either.

The whole point of good design is minimizing weaknesses wherever possible. Ensuring that a single bad turn of shooting won't kill your mech can mean the difference between victory and defeat, and when you can pre-empt problems in the design phase, it is best to do so. It's the same reason I abhor the XL engine comboed with the side torso gauss rifle. It is an unecessary risk without great payoff.

>>52295511
You don't win games in the mech designer. You win them on the tabletop.

>>52295497

Post Dated Check Loan (see if any of them get the reference)

Warrenty Void if Seal Broken

PURPLE WARSHIP

>>52295580
>Post Dated Check Loan (see if any of them get the reference)
A shame the writer of that comic has lost his fucking mind over politics. It's really ruined the comic for me.

>>52295497
Go full Culture.

>>52295548

Right, but if I design my mech better than you, and we fight equally well on the tabletop, I'm probably going to win. You want to stack every advantage you can get on top of each other, so that if everything else is equal, you still have the advantage in your favor. So if I'm following my design philosophy regarding armour thresholds and shoot one of your mechs in the back, I'll get to check for crit. You shooting me in the back with the same weapon in the same location isn't going to check for crit.

If you play the tabletop at ALL, you should know that crits are what win fights. A mech almost never dies from losing all of its internal structure. It is almost always from the engine getting critted out, or the gyro or actuators shot and it falling over so it just gets kicked to death, or an ammo bin going up. Setting up the armour layout to minimize the possibility of a check for crit can and does make a difference in the tabletop fight. This is especially relevant if you have something bigger than just one or two mechs fighting each other. In a lance on lance fight or company on company, or even bigger, you can't always control who gets into your back arc, so having an armour slab set up so that it doesn't breach from a single hit from a common weapon is a big deal.

>>52295653
Wut

>>52295697
>Frank Exchange of Views
>Attitude Adjuster
>Lapsed Pacifist
>Falling Outside The Normal Moral Constraints
>Reformed Nice Guy

>>52295783
Howard Tayler has gone full DRUMPF mode, and his twitter feed is inline with the comic on mobile. So you've got science fiction on the one side and FUCK DRUMPF on the other. I read most webcomics to avoid politics.

>>52295842
can we keep politics out of /btg/ please?

>>52295497
Go grab the Gratuitous Space Battles demo, literally every ship name it cranks out is something like that. Oh, and the game's decent, too.

>>52295497
>>52295580
Can we stop with the fucking retarded meme names?

"Hurr Two For Flinching Lol!! xDDD" stop with this shit

>>52295740
...What alternate reality do you play BT in? I've lost plenty of zombie customs to Center Torso Existence Failure. The bigger the guns being used, the less likely things are to die by crits.

>>52295965

No. It's everywhere else, and until the US has a good civil war to determine whether we're going to go "full Nordic hybrid state" or "full authoritarian police state" for the next century, this state of affairs of ubiquitous politics will continue indefinitely. Everything is political now. Deal with it.

>>52296578
The guy LITERALLY asked for names like that.

>>52295497
The White Elephant
The Unmentionable
The Forgotten Fury
The Big Target
The Memory of O'neil
The Where Are They Now
The Passing Destruction
The Beast of Brockway
The Orbital Support

>>52296607
They're retarded. Why do people keep forcing this shit?

>>52296613
Like you. Fuck off.

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>>52296613
>The Memory of O'neil

That's O'Neill with two L's, anon.

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>>52296652

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>>52296652

>>52296813
It's nothing personal but these ship names are as forced as goddamn HFY threads.

>>52296829
SLS Bill S Preston and the SLS Theodor Logan. Just for you anon.

>>52295497
>>52295580
>>52295797
>>52296613
>>52296829
>>52296851

>She's One of Ours

>>52296613
>The Memory of O'neil
"They named a ship after you. The O'Neill."
"Oh really?"
"...We blew it up."
"...Oh."

>>52296605
I keep hearing this, is this a copy pasta at this point?

When's the boxes of Reseen coming out?
I want to run bug lances dying in knife fights on the edge of the Inner Sphere.

>>52296977
God only knows at this point, really

>>52296581
I'm not saying that it doesn't happen, but a single crit can win or lose a match sometimes, so it only makes sense to set up your armour scheme so that a single shot from a common weapon can't crit-check you if at all possible.

>>52296971
not the guy who posted it, but I suppose so. Memes can be true, after all.

Back to /btg/

How Mary Sue is my merc company owning a beat-up dropship?

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>>52295697
I don't understand.

>>52295580
>PURPLE WARSHIP
One of them is a huge prince fan- it could be "____ and the REVOLUTION" which would give us more reasons to blast 80s music while playing.
>>52295797
>>52296517
>>52296613

Yeah, >>52296829 is right but I still appreciate it. >>52296851 Hit it on the head too, as that's goddamned cannon and people frequently forget about FASA's "jokes".

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>>52295497
"Millennium Pigeon"
"Whose Ship Is It Anyway?"
"The Horse With No Name"
"Sephiroth's Underwear"
"xXxMetalGearSolidShip420NoScopexXx"
"It's Aeris Dammit"
"Panty Thief 3050" (Change number for year, whatever)
"Bukkake 3000!"
"My Laze You Long Time"
"Phuc Hu" (Liao warship)
"Mister Roger's Model T"
"Trans-galactic Suppository"
"Death Dildo" (Only vulnerable in one chute)
"Perineum"
"The Glowing Lawn Gnome"
"The Deep Ship 86" (Space Quest reference)
"The Intergalactic Chris Hansen"
"The Heineken Bomb"
"The Keep Off My Lawn Express"
"The Toot & Scoot Stephen Root"
"The Naval Autocannon Enema"
"My Little Warship: Friendship is Magic"
"Naruto Is Real"
"The Sonichu Express"
"SS Christian Chandler" (It's really big and goes nowhere)
"The Origami Tiger"
"Battlestar Dramatica"
"The SS Drew Carey"

>>52296971

Sort of pasta. It's only pasta in that a lot of people think it and so say it. Since a lot of people are saying the same basic concept, it's going to start all sounding the same. And just because it may be approaching pasta status doesn't make it untrue.

Unfortunately, it likely is true, actually.

>>52297072

Depends. Just playing by the rules of merc unit creation out of FM:Mercs revised, it's relatively easy for a merc unit to start with one or even two Dropships, even if you're unlikely to actually own them. If you're playing by the written rules that are clearly fine with new merc units owning DropShips then I don't consider it to be mary sue.

On the other side, merc units which own mechs at all are pretty mary sue, because if they're as rare as people say the various governments and nobles would forcibly confiscate them and there's nothing anyone could do about it. It's like a feudal lord confiscating the horse of a peasant.

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>>52295965
If that sore, jobless anon let us of course we can

>>52296652
SLS Memetic Trigger
RWS Forced Discharge