JumpChain CYOA Thread #1394: Maximum Smug Edition

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What does your jumper do for St. Patrick's Day?

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So, jumpers.

We talked a lot about being faithful to those we love. But how possessive are you?

>>52231134
Turn the sky green during the day, and the Moon green during the night.

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>>52230705
Hm. Wanted to leave this in the last thread, but I was a bit too late. Apologies.

>One, citation please.
Exalted Core, page 81. The end of mortal character creation.

>Two, I think you are reading a section about starting your (PC) character is a mortal in a prologue.
It's not quite for prologues (preludes are a different thing), as much as it is for converting any mortal into an exalt in play.

>That is so going from mortal to exalted in play does not cost you, the player, starting charms.
This still holds though, as it is intended for PC.

>Three, the books are inconsistent (and even PC backstories) on that matter. the starting charms a PC has can be stuff they got by initial exaltation. Or they could have just manifested one the few they needed to survive whatever made them exalt, and developed the rest after exaltation but before the campaign started.
Charms are rarely ever mentioned directly in character fluff anyway.

And what PC backstories? Those are up to the player anyway. Do you mean the 'can have been exalted for a day or a year' bit for a starting character?

>Fourth no, NPC's and PC are NOT treated the same. PC's have XP for one, which in not tracked for NPC's. They have their stat block, regardless of if it would be legal for a PC.
...No, that's what I just said. They don't track XP. That's the ONLY difference between a NPC character and a PC.

Tell you what... If you can point me at even one example of any character having less than the starting amount of charms, I'll concede the point to you. Sound reasonable?


No comment on the non-charm stuff though? That seemed much more interesting to me.

>>52231134
Magically put a harmless green filter in front of the sun, so that everything's green for the-

>>52231159
DAMNIT.

...why am I always late?

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Finished version of Shokugeki no Soma.

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Knock yourselves out. This is jumpable.

I'll look into adding more OC content later, but this is basically the core I wanted to setup.

>>52231159
Someone in Persona is just going to get a heart attack, anon.

>>52231134
Party, probably. Is there a point to drinking if there is no hangover, I wonder.

>>52231196
>>52231210
Heh. You guys are great. Reading!

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>>52231196
>>52231210
Awesome.

>>52231210
Excellent now to get some devil booty.

>>52230214
This is true. >>52230579

You know when I first wrote the perk, I never thought people would take advantage of Self-duplication the way they have. It's interesting to see, and also slightly worrisome.

>>52231210
...alright, so. I just noticed that I jumped the gun really hard and forgot to include a canon character update. As well as remove the limit on Longinus purchases.

Whoops. I'm gonna go do that now. Uh. Leave any other suggestions on this post while I'm touching that bit up.

>>52231210
Why do the Longinus have a mandatory drawback? Isn't finding them supposed to be a huge deal for everyone? Why should anyone notice or suspect you if you don't display anything out of the ordinary?

>>52231210
>Not Very Bodacious [+200]
You son of a bitch, I love you.

>>52231225
>Someone in Persona is just going to get a heart attack, anon
?

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>>52231330
Well, I mean... Green moon is bad times there.

>>52231210
>Not Very Bodacious
Not really worth 200cp.

>>52231157
From a romantic standpoint? Not at all. It would be ridiculously hypocritical of me to get all worked up about my wives/girlfriends/whatever sleeping around when I am a not insignificant amount of manwhore. As a result, we have a don't ask; dom't tell policy. It mostly works.

From a physical standpoint, even though they are functionally immortal, the easiest way to get on my bad side is to hurt them

>>52231305
It's possible to sense if someone has a Sacred Gear in them, especially if it's a powerful one. That's why Raynare kills Issei at the beginning of the series, she doesn't know what he's got but she knows it's a threat. Kind of foolish of her, if she had taken the time to investigate further she could have extracted Boosted Gear for her own use, instead she killed him because "fuck this kid, I'm not going to spend any more time than I need to on him". Anyways, presumably supernatural agents would be able to sense your Sacred Gear, even if they wouldn't know what it was.

>>52231362
Anon, when I say "green", I mean straight up emerald green. They're not going to mistake that I hope.

>>52231157
Not very. I wouldn't be a good person if I was a possessive shitbag and acted on it.

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Okay, let's try this again.
0.2: Removed mandatory drawback and limit on Longinus purchases, added canon character purchase.

Noticed is a minor drawback and it doesn't really fit into the price scheme of the perk. Besides, if you've got one, people are going to sense in in-setting normally. Fiat enforcing it is kinda silly, in hindsight.

>>52231210
>The final two Longinus, Innovate Clear and Telos Karma, have yet to be revealed. Should that day eventually come during your stay, you may purchase them with this option as well
I understand why you put this here, but it seems kind of silly as written. They're presumably going to "be revealed" during your stay, because you're not "staying" in a world bound to the conventions of a random manga somewhere, and thus not limited to a reader's viewpoint. It might be better to come up with some OC, or at least put this passage in the notes, which is less egregiously immersion-breaking.

>>52231196
Reminder that the best way to go through this jump is to turn yourself into a rat and secretly puppeteer another student.

But yeah, it looks interesting and I intend to read through it more thoroughly in a little bit.

>>52231481
>Fiat enforcing it is kinda silly, in hindsight.
Not him, but I just kind of assumed that people would have detected something in your background, before you got any concealment perks. Kind of immaterial, regardless.

>>52231481
Neat. I don't think I'd purchase more than one Longinus, I can't really afford it outside of my unofficial Daydream Chain where I have infinite CP and never actually write down my build. But it's nice to have the option. I'm sure someone will use it, probably.

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>>52231490
>>52231521
>tfw when I left that name on

Holy shit I'm salty, Fairy Tail is such a shitshow. I really don't know why I read that crap any more. The third strongest enemies just killed himself because Marashima couldn't find another way of dealing with him, and I bet the other two are gonna get the usual friendhip package.

>>52231565
wat

>>52231196
Awesome, thanks for doing this!

Does the Choicest Cuts item also work for seafood?

>>52231588
Yes

>>52231481
I think I Send My Sword is a really cool perk. the ability to know who could be a major figure in history if granted power is something that has a lot of subtle but useful applications.

>>52231516
Wait, isn't that the best way to do every jump?

>>52231630
if you think There is a best way you're doing it wrong.

>>52231667
What do you have against Red, bancho? You just described her style to a T.

>>52231620
>a lot of subtle but useful applications.
List some of them, plz. All I can think of is using it to find people who will be important.

>>52231565
Explain further, but I'll go ahead and theorize, the mangaka is incapable of focusing on anything that's not fanservice at this point so he's rushing it.

>>52231157
Extremely. Being yandere is one of my flaws.

>>52231744
Surprisingly little fanservice compared to it's worse actually. Pretty sure it's likely either him having the same poor pacing as ever, since there's lots of hyped fights that ended instantly in shit ways like this before OR it's a bleach thing and they're cutting the manga soon so he has to get to the final fight sooner then planned.

>>52231565
And now you know how a certain someone felt.

>>52231763
If it's a Bleach thing I hope that doesn't become a trend, might hit something that's actually good eventually.

>>52231740
Okay, yes, that's the only thing it actually does. But what I mean is that I can think of a lot of uses for that information. Like granting people power so they have the potential to be important, then taking it away from them at a critical moment so as to break them. Or finding someone who can be important and shaping them to be your tool while they're still inconsequential, so that when you empower them they'll be loyal to you. Stuff like that.

How many of the DC jumps have perks that let you pull off a secret identity with just a pair of glasses?

>>52231899
Arrowverse and G:tAS.

Rolled 1 (1d8)

>>52216753
177 Neverwinter Nights
Mask of the Betrayer
Divine
Yuan-ti Pureblood -100
Age 72
Communion, Divine Blessings(Channelling)-200, Arcane Pact(Fey Warlock)-400, Eater of Spirits -600,
Wallet, Priestly Garb, Amulet of the Gods Favoured -200, Scroll Collection -200,
A Dreadful Case of Protaganism +0, Spirit Eater +300, Choo Choo, Mother +200, Curse of the MMO! +100, Camera Issues +100,
Well, it's time to put my fancy eyes and transportational abilities to the test as I have a soul to find. One of mine even. Still, not much difficulty in getting this job done. A dimension of caves and tunnels.
Mask of the Betrayer: Nibbler of Spirits
Continue
1 F.E.A.R.
2 Kamen Rider Ryuki
3 Captain N the Game Master
4 Dragonball Multiverse
5 Disgaea
6 XMen Movies
7 Gargoyles
8 Spider Man trilogy

>>52231157
which kind of dere is it where she wants you to smack her around?

>>52231915
f.e.a.r. yay. I'll need a new 1.

>>52231920
Sadere-masochism

>>52231932
Siren: Blood Curse

>>52231942
Sounds about right.

>>52231920
Reference
http://goboiano.com/the-14-popular-dere-types-in-every-anime/

>>52231952
been there, got the eye tricks to prove it.

>>52227918
Well I tried this last thread but it didn't exactly work out. I am looking for suggestions for what jumps to add to my list of jumps to roll for. Here is a list of what I have taken http://pastebin.com/u26SLK0X and here is how the list stands so far. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

1. Stranger Things
2. Persona
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8. Free Choice.

>>52231976
Kekkai Sensen

>>52231980
Gravity Falls

>>52231980
Shovel Knight.

>>52231980
Dark Souls
Dark Souls 3
Demon Souls
Bloodborne
Armored Core.

>>52232011
From pls ensure the upcoming DLC doesn't suck like the first one.

>>52231998
>>52232003
>>52232011
Wow awesome, Thanks. Ok everything will be added and the extras will be put in reserve.

Tron System Jump

Looking for some perk and Warehouse suggestions
Pet comment if you have any ideas or something you want that I missed

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>>52231997
queued

>>52232050
Tron style warehouse mod that lets you alter your warehouse within its current setup via touching the floor and using an interface that comes up like you were flynn. Lets you move, situate, and flip through your current warehouse mods on a digital display.

92. Young Justice
Location: Washington D.C.
Origin: Drop-In, Race: Human, Age: 11
Skills: Manipulative, Stealthy, Smooth Talker, Gum Up The Works, Removed From Context
Super Powers: Most Common Superpower, Required Secondary Superpowers, Drain No, Incomprehensible, Toggle
Items: Costume
Drawbacks: Just A Sidekick, Never A Dull Moment

I wish to Super Powers responsibly, and this is the best way to do it. Jumpchan picked me a world of trouble for it, but I don't mind all that much. I like keeping busy.

The real problem is that no one actually listens to me, except when they need a good source of encouragement. Which is all the time because we're all fucking exhausted. I keep up the teams spirit and am the official group healer/anti-mage. My attacks cut through magic and I still have JAM, and that turns the table on most magic-based enemies. I can't solo Klarion or anything, but the Helmet of Doctor Fate took a few more years to graft itself to a new host. I feel bad for Aquagirl, but she was going to die and this seemed a decent way to put her extended time to good use.

I mostly took advantage of Not Dumb Luck, Dumb Skills, Slapstick, Numb-Minding Brilliance, and other underestimation/dumb but successful perks to actually get changes going. Robin noticed how "lucky" I was, but he was always too distracted by the mission to take advantage of it.

>>52231157
I do a terrible job at being possessive. Most of my "relationships" are just two people repeatedly seeking each other out for comfort or excitement, combined with a strong friendship. Like, when I do hook up with someone I'll still try and play matchmaker with them, and have a couple times used "You two fuck like you'd be good at fucking each other" as a reason for people to get together. The only exceptionally long-term thing is Zeke, and in that case we're more like comfort food after a break-up or bad night on the town.

>>52232050
A "User" perk that allows you to manipulate the "data" within jump documents so you have more build freedom.

>>52232174
...that would be horribly broken.

>>52232190
It's bait, anon. He's asking because he's gonna start bitching about a jumpmaker at any moment.

>>52232174
Yeah, gonna take that and add a few bits of data to my starting CP, just a few zeroes.

>>52232222
You were one digit off from having...septiles? Is that what they're called? I mean, you got quads, but still.

>>52232222
There's always "Creative Mode" over on SB. I'm sure Heavens can tell you all about it.

>>52232210
Oh, come on. You know damn well not all jumps are flawless masterpieces.

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>Jumper spams forbidden techniques that decrease the user's lifespan because they only have to survive for 10 years

>>52232327
And why do you need a perk to let you rewrite jumps when you can do it yourself?

>>52232343
Because only some of them are open to replacement.

>>52231275
It forms the basis of my jumper's entire powerset.

Pls don't nerf.

>>52232362
Red has him in her pocket. Of course he's going to nerf it.

>>52232359
They are only technically open for replacement. If anyone actually tried the thread would either not allow it outright or set impossible standards.

>>52232152
>Tron style warehouse mod that lets you alter your warehouse within its current setup via touching the floor and using an interface that comes up like you were flynn. Lets you move, situate, and flip through your current warehouse mods on a digital display.

Thanks that is just how I was looking to flesh out the Grid theme

>>52231481
Why did you decide to from +1500 cp to +1000 cp for the drawback limit? Cause holy shit there is a lot of stuff in this jump.

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>>52232331
>Jumper spams dangerous forbidden techniques that decrease the user's lifespan because they're immortal

>>52232397
Not true. Sailor Moon got with barely a peep.

Which is a better Immortality effect? Zombie from 7DS or the option from Lost Odyssey? Only going to buy one and need to decide which.

>>52232397
You don't have to share your replacements with us, anon. You can make a replacement for any jump you want.

>>52232413
IRC bullshit.

>>52231196
Looks good.

Do you have to buy Polar Star Dorm to become a member of it?

The Ultimate Shokugeki drawback is pretty cool.

>>52232413
He didn't. It was always +1000CP.

>>52232331
>Jumper spams forbidden techniques that are supposed to kill their user because they are both the author and the MC

>>52232460
Sssssh. They're ramping up for their hourly bitchfest.

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>>52231134
Have a few drinks, because the tradition of the day demands it, serve up green pancakes, green eggs, and green ham for dinner. Then I usually head out to a dive bar and pick a fight with the biggest bastard in the place with all my perks turned off.

Raven dislikes this tradition, but is willing to patch me up and lecture me the next morning.

>>52231157
I try not to be too possessive considering the unique relationship structure my Companions and I share. It's not always the easiest thing to do, I'll admit. So, probably a 4/10 with occasional spikes depending on the situation.

>>52232460
It's bait, anon.

They're getting themselves wound up to start a screamfest.

>>52232413
Yeah, buying your full perk-tree, you'd only have 200 CP left, and that's not even accounting for racial costs.

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>>52232444
>Muh irc conspiracy.
It has been over 3 damn years do you guys never get tired of this?

>>52232174
I admit that I do like the idea but it would be broken.even as a capstone. Maybe word it so you can get one item from setting cp backed that is not in jump doc. perk would cost 600cp and in future the item you choose whether it be a sandwhich or spaceship would cost 600cp.

What do people think?

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>>52231060
anything on the updated eve jump? I only need like, two ships.

Why am I the only one who seems to care about this? EVE is the king of of fuckheug ships and no jump is complete without an armada of ultramassive ftl capable vessels.

>>52231481
Are pure-blooded Devils stronger than Reincarnated ones?

>>52232459
You only need to buy it if you want to take the building with you. Otherwise feel free to join

>>52232499
That sounds stupidly meta and like an excuse to get something from another jump because you don't want to settle for less. That's dumb.

>>52232464
>Jumper spams lethal techniques because they used a literal interpretation of a drawback that said they were guaranteed to encounter a certain foe
>Since they have a drawback enforced encounter, they are fiat protected from dying before said meeting

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>>52232490
The truth is out there.

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>>52232504
People got a bit tired of huge ships after the Biggest Dickus formula was applied to the Asgerd.

>>52232499
Never put in stuff that alters other peoples jumps man. Its way too meta. Just give stuff from tron.

A tron building by programming perk would also be awesome, as in you program what you want and can digitize a hardlight construct of what you program.

>>52232545
Whatever happened to Bill Cypher anon?

>>52232504
Because unless the EVE jump allows you make entire fleets as big as planets and carry them to nosell every setting, nobody gives a fuck.

>>52232499
Bad idea, please do not give things that let you buy stuff in other jumps.

>>52232543
>Every time Jumper McHugepower is about to execute his lethal techniques using a "Fated Encounter" drawback, he keeps getting interrupted by increasingly contrived and implausible events.

>>52232570
That looks tacky though, say what you want at least halo stuff has a certain style to it.

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>>52232570
>>52232594
I don't know what any of this means. what is asgerd and this biggus dickus nonsense

>>52232600
>>52232582
I'm sure your nerf champion Red will bitch him out in IRC. Oh wait, it's just you trying to pretend more than you care for jump sanctity.

>>52232426
Didn't he actually hand that over in person?

>>52232600
not buy you would to steal/buy the item in setting this would just give it cp backing in future jumps.

Anyone have some ideas for ISO and Program perks. Things that can be imported to future jumps and warehouse addons are welcome

>>52232543
>>52232625
Ah, the Arthur Dent version of immortality.

>>52232691
That's still dumb. No. Dude, just focus on Tron stuff. How is it so difficult to only focus on the Tron setting?

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>>52231157

I'm more yandere than I generally like to admit.

But I don't actually stalk my waifus or kill anyone who could threaten our relationships.

I just ensure they only have eyes for me. Gravity Falls love potions are very helpful with that.

Of course I don't dose them in order to get them to love me in the first place. Charisma, harem, and seduction perks make it unneeded.

I dose them after we've been together for a while. It's insurance.

>>52232691
Yeah you don't give options to buy stuff in other settings. Saying you have to steall it and pay 600 cp for it in future jumps is just splitting hairs.

As far as ISOs a perk to program dna as a code or a buy item disc that you can link to people to remove damaged code to heal them would rock. But that other idea is just terrible.

>>52232694
>Still no Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy jump

>>52232648
There was a series of ship imports that when applied to the Light of Terra made it stupidly fuckhuge.

Then a jump for Empire from the Ashes appeared and offered an Asgerd (planetoid warship larger than the moon) as a reward for winning a drawback scenario

People put their Asgerds into mentioned series of imports instead of the LoT with the end result being a warship roughly the size of Neptune.

>>52232691
Just give stuff from the setting you are working on, you aren't doing a single version you said. There is a fucking amazing amount of stuff in tron to give without shoehorning that in.

>>52232727
>Jumper is so scared of being alone and so distrustful of other people that they drug their loved ones

>>52232691
ISO perks for hiding and blending into society, those guys were hunted a lot. Almost to extinction.

Dna coding.

A blank identity disc.

A bunch of light up clothes.

So why is Boosted Gear a big deal anyway? It says it just increases physical power, but even if you're tossing planets there's still a bunch of magic and the like that can fuck you in the ass, right?

>>52232762
fukhueg light you say? tell me more. I'm already picturing it on the huskier side for emp-class battleships at around 9+ kilometers in length

>>52232727
This reminds me of a project that I had where instead of trying to artificially create love directly I figured it would be easier and more practical to artificially induce the feelings and states of mind which would lead to someone falling in love normally.

>>52232435
Buying 7DS will leave you with dignity and won't get you shitposted at every time you post about it.

>>52232827
Its a big deal in setting, pretty much as big as it gets there.

>>52232771

I never said my Jumper was perfect. In fact he's an amoral, hypocritical dick who pretends to be benevolent most of the time.

Plus it's kind of a genuine flaw I have in real life. I really should not be trusted with any sort of emotional manipulation abilities.

Is not wanting to be alone so wrong?

>>52232570
>only the size of Neptune
The Biggus Dickus is actually the size of the Milky Way now.

>>52232839
The Light of Terra starts out as a Gloriana class battleship, which are around 20km in length.

>>52232435
Zombie, actually. It can restore you from complete obliteration, which cannot be said of Immortal. People fail to realize that Val's jumps are also powergrabby as fuck, the only difference is that she knows how to make every option equally appealing and powergrabby, unlike SJ who always OTBs and writes in an absurdly dry manner.

>>52232499
Don't mention other jumps at all.
We already have stuff like garages that extend the CP bennies (auto repair/respawn) to the vehicles held within in multiple jumps.

Call it a Tron Secure Backup Server or something. Lets you create digital Images of an item to back it up, and it can restore it to a previous backup, even if consumed or totally destroyed.

Like what system restore does for your computer, but works on any item.

It has X backup slots available, and you can clear one items backup data to back up another.
Or is can backup one item now, and gains another slot for a new item every so often, like ten years or so.

Either way, it cannot backup something intelligent enough to be sentient and sapient for safety reasons due to 'issues' when the creator tried it on himself, the backup sort of taking over the server and becoming a facist tyrant.

>>52232852
I don't get the big deal. Why can Val's jump offer something, but SJ offering the same thing is terrible.

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>>52232887
I- I don't recall reading that.

oh lawdy, I've been keeping it smaller than necessary this whole time.

what have I done

>>52232877
Can you please link me to the biggus dickus formula? That sounds both amusing and amazing.

Have to use mass effect relays and interplanetary teleportation just to get to the bathroom

>>52232898
Zombie does have the flaw that it is possible to slow or even halt your regeneration though, if someone had the right tools/knowledge/powers to do so, if I remember right. Actually, are there any perks that could counter something like that?

>>52232877
>Biggus Dickus is actually the size of the Milky Way now
Name the perks and jumps necessary or I call bullshit.

>>52232930
20KM is just the norm for a Gloriana, they vary considerably and while I don't remember the exact max size you can have yours quite a bit larger.

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>>52231481
What qualifies as a Magic System? I'm unfamiliar with the setting, and the wiki is kind of sparse on knowledge. It seems to imply that The "Magic Systems" are all derived from the various races: there's mention of Angel, Fallen, Devil, and Human magic (Western or Eastern).

As an independent dragon, could I go for any of those as my magic system?

Or am I misinterpreting what the setting considers a proper "Magic System"?

>>52232940
There was a discussion a few threads back. I think people said Drain No and similar perks, except for mundane effects or things which only do it as a side effect. But I think the only thing that would really not cover is stuff like intense heat and corrosion, the former of which you can gain immunity to in lots of places and the latter which the Break power in SDS covers against.

>>52232898
Cracker Jack and Heaven's jumps tend to be the same way. Those three are proof that the thread will let jumpmakers do whatever if they have plenty of fluff and good internal balance. Which doesn't bother me at all, it just amazes me how much good fluff makes a difference in how the thread reacts.

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Alright. Classes are done.

... I probably dropped it at a bad time considering there's two fully-finished jumps there but, there they are. Critique, let me know what's wrong, call me a piece of shit, whatever, have at it.

I'm at 36 pages, and that's before each class is getting a set of four perks, and then there's the Mixed Discount perks, and then the Undiscounted perks.

>>52232952
Not him and this probably doesnt help so much but blame tech alone can let you build a city bigger than the solar system. Hell they mined jupiter until all that is left is a jupiter sized storage bay.

>>52232961
Am I the only one who thinks most D&D dragons look pretty goofy?

>>52232985
Damn man nice work so far.

>>52232980
That works, thanks anon.

>>52232958
yeah no I knew that, I am familiar with the class of ship I just thought the light was an emperor or redemption class.

Man, I've really been underutilizing it. here I was thinking it was only half the length of the largest titans when it actually outsizes it by nearly four miles.

>>52232985
You're not a piece of shit.

>>52232992
No, the Biggus Dickus Formula is based on certain perks and options applied to a ship that follows you from jump to jump. As opposed to jumper applied modifications to increase size then might possibly be left behind when you leave the jump, you only taking along a hunk of the ship as big as you paid for with CP with you.

>>52232928
>>52232982
Internal balance is really what matters. Like, most things offered in all of their jumps (with the exception of Nametag and similarly jump-notes stuff) are justified in-setting, it's just SJ-Chan has problems pricing things relative ti each other. It's not like SJ-Chan's are usually like Vampire Diaries where the setting is made out to be way more powerful than it is, but offering immortality for 200 CP is much better than other 200 CP options in the jump. There's also the bit that Lost Odyssey was a HUUUGE game and people... were expecting a bit more, to say the least.

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>>52233001
They do.

I prefer dragons dogma myself, grigori is the best dragon. I hated it at first but I gradually came to love it.

>>52233064
>you only taking along a hunk of the ship as big as you paid for with CP with you.

When the hell has that ever been said?

>>52233078

Hell yeah man. Favorite class?

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>>52232171
>Robin noticed how "lucky" I was, but he was always too distracted by the mission to take advantage of it.

That was lucky.

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>>52232413
Was always +1000. I considered making a capbreaker, but it felt excessive since I opted out of a full items section.
>>52232522
At first, yes. Some training and magic practice will let them work their way up. The 'natural' Devils just start with...well, being Devils their whole lives.
>>52232961
Magic is a bit freeform in DxD, but every race and faction has their own ways of using it. The Church/Heaven uses prayer and crosses, Hell uses vaguely Solomonic-appearing magic, etc. They're mostly 'styles' and different ways of using Magic, which is a combination of flavor and what that race/Faction would specialize in. Holy magic for Angels, Infernal magic for Devils, etc.

And yes, yes you can.
>>52231490
I'll be moving that to notes in the uploaded version.

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>>52233092
Magic archer, or mage. I also dabbled in magic swordsman some a bit.

Though regular archers fire ability was fun.

>>52233100
It's more part of the drawback than anything. I can't be respected, so anything that would make that happen was blocked.

To anyone who was planning on making a Gamer build soon, the last four chapters have revealed that the eleminons perk is way better than we thought it was.

>>52232935
>>52232952
Basically the Biggus Dickus formula goes like this:

In the Dahak Chronicles jump you can get a ship, an Asgerd-class, which is the size of the moon. Then you import that into Supreme Commander as an Experimental ACU, doubling its size. Then you import it into Five Star Stories and blow all of your CP on Size Modification. Then you import it into Titanfall and blow all of your CP again on increasing its size.

After adding up all of the increases you end up with a ship that's the size of the Milky Way.

>>52233169
>eleminons
Who?

>>52233169
Eleminions just starts you out with an elemental pet/waifu, you can get one on your own fairly easily.

>>52233185
How does one even travel within their ship, let alone power it?

>>52233138

Ey! Same here! Magic Archer was the best. Regular fire was great, Ricochet Arrows inside a corridor was great, setting a squad of zombies on fire with a shining arrow was great, but I'll tell you my real favorite part.

Self Immolation then tossing myself on an enemy to gut and carve them up. The magic flames spreading over their soon to be corpse as I hack and slash with maddening glee. If they were too big to climb on, I'd just grab them, letting the flames consume them as they struggled in my grasp.

>>52233185
Didn't someone point out that the size increase in Titanfall only applied along one axis or something, so you'd end up with a ship shaped like a galaxy-long, planet-wide pencil?

So, Gamer's Loot allows to, guaranteed, obtain at least /some/ loot from things that normally shouldn't allow it, like illusions. Summoning from Samurai Jack allows you to summon anything you've killed. Keep on killing Darkseid as many times as you want for whatever you want. ;^)

Check, nerfwhores.

>>52233216
Now I dont have a ship that big, but I would think you could do it with captured blackholes and stars and never move it. Just teleport everywhere.

Its unweildy sounding as fuck.

>>52233237
The fuck does Darkseid even have to loot? He's not like that bitch Thanos who relies on a gauntlet all the time.

>>52233237
When killed everything on jack summons goes up in a puff of smoke.

>>52233185
well this is certainly useful knowledge.

I could forgo something like dahak chronicles since I literally don't know anything about it and the mathematics behind calculating the increase in size with the proportional increase in volume of a non-spherical object using a spherical object as my benchmark.

I ain't got time or patience to be fuckin around with no pi's and vertices and shit now

>>52233237
Which one is it this time. Record? cliffc999? maybe Godogma's taking his turn at being a shithead this time.

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>>52233222
I think I liked the self immolation more because it didnt give you fire immunity, you literally just caught yourself on fire and could easily kill yourself and I did. A lot.

>>52233258
First of all, don't reply to bait. Second, Gamer's Loot allows you to get loot from illusion, so it should probably work for summons. Though it's pretty obvious bait, and it doesn't really make much of a difference in the long term, because you'd have to fucking... I dunno, kill Darkseid first.

>>52233269
Last time, using the same format, the shitposter posted an original combo that wasn't on SB. Pretty sure this is the same guy.

>>52233089
If you buy a 50 CP dinghy from a historical jump, or even the free Starship in Star Wars the original trilogy that is 55 meters long at max, and then add stuff to it until it is the size of a super star destroyer, or even bigger, to you really think the miles of metal you added to a meters long ship ship come along?

If that works, then look at properties that follow you. If you have this parcel of land you farm, why not just buy or conquer the land surrounding it to make one big farm and say the larger area now follows you, since it is all one thing?

I'm not saying improvements cannot be made, even making it a bit bigger, but there comes a point where it just isn't believable anymore.

is there anything that lets you import a vehicle and make it bigger on the inside? Or a house, for that matter

>>52233185
Where is the option to increase size in titanfall, if I may ask? I'm not seeing it

>>52232985
I think you may be better off just finishing it and then posting the entire first draft. I'm not sure people have the willpower to read the titan you've been writing up.

>>52233237
Wow, thanks for the neat utility combos that are just making more efficient use of what you already have. I guess we're omnipotent because of these perk interactions that don't even make you much more powerful than anything these jumps offer.

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>>52233105
>Magic is a bit freeform in DxD, but every race and faction has their own ways of using it.

So as a dragon I could take "Draconic Magic" as my "Magic System"?

>>52233324
Then whats the cut off point? Why has no creator mentioned one in any option, even when they specifically say modifications remain?

>>52233169
Not really, it is paying a pretty high price to just start with a summon that can be obtained with a simple ritual. Sure the summon is great and buying one with CP makes it start a little stronger (according to the jumpmaker, the text currently reads as having it start at the lowest level) but you can just create your own elemental waifu or daughteru in jump.

>>52233216
>How does one even travel within their ship, let alone power it?
Teleportation pads that have a 50% chance of rematerilizing you at the other end with your head on backwards.

>>52233286

FUCK YES, BEST PART!!! I loved to imagine even in-universe that I acted like a cackling loon because who in their right mind lit themselves on fire when they had all sorts of magic available too them? What's the enemy gonna do, try and kill you? You're already doing a good job of that yourself and bringing them down with you. I loved fighting Chimera like that, because they'd try and throw you off or roll around or snatching you away with the snake tail, but you just kept going after them, digging your daggers into their evil flesh and reintroducing them to the Arisen God of the world piece by piece until all three heads were dead and you were allowed to go about your merry way, scorched and burned but alive.

>>52233356
Basically, yeah.

>>52233289
And if you had a completely loyal replica of Darkseid to summon whenever you wanted, why bother farming it for loot?

>>52233347
Are you reading the imaged version? The updated version is in the unimaged folder. It's under Capital Ship Customization as "Size Upgrade."

>>52233382
That would explain it. Alright, thanks

>>52233374
Because jumper wants an omega beams skill book?

>>52233332
Not an import, but Non-Euclidean Mind from Creepypasta allows you to expand the inside of any spaces with expenditure of materials. YJ said it also works for vehicles and cybernetics and other "moving spaces", but that they'll cap out in size. There's no such limit for relatively stationary things like buildings, though.

>>52233324
If it says mods carry over they carry over. I dont know of any land purchases that let you add onto them like that except maybe dungeons from generic dungeon.

>>52233216
There are generally ships that already have the problem solved. The LoT never specified because all of the improvement systems were external. I don't remember whether the Dahak had a full transport system built inside. The third "free" ship involves you fixing it up, and even if it's bigger than the LoT structurally it never has transportation issues either because most systems are concentrated.

>>52233358
>Then whats the cut off point?
Single player game anon.
If unsure, post your build here.
If you cross the line into blatantly unbelievable self masturbation, we will be happy to let you know.
And also point at you and laugh while calling you a moron.

>>52233409
cool, that works. Thanks!

>>52233382
well that certainly puts a dent in my storage and overpopulation problems aboard the light, but I'd still like to have a titan. Quality is nice but quantity has a quality all its own, and I do so lust for a large quantity of huge ships. my own trans-universal migrant fleet. I also have a habit of dispatching numerous agents to do my work in conquering and being able to field more than one capital ship and the shard would do wonders to bringing unruly galactic populations into imperial compliance.

>>52233324
Because you're not modifying the lands or structures of the property, you're just getting people to act like you own it. YJ_Anon, for example, has very much said that if you directly "modify" one of the buildings that retain modifications, then you may well have planetoids following you eventually.

>>52233358
No creator mentions anything because the entire ship argument is bogus. We've already had two jumpmakers make a jump just to give themselves massive ships. When you have people willing to make a jump to get something, there's generally no point to arguing with them how it works. They're clearly more invested than you are. And even if you wanted to give them shit on their ships worked, you wouldn't be able to because they're already gone.

>>52233227
That actually sounds hilarious.

>Make your galaxy noodle
>Then use the natural flex of the ship it's from to slowly bend it back into a ring shape
>connect the engines to the bridge
>following ringworld

>>52233413
Plenty of property say modifications and changes carry over either in text or notes. Does not mean you can turn every later jump you take into Coruscant by modifying your property it is so big to covers the entire planet.

>>52233407
Can you get that?

>>52233458
See, that might seem to you like it's a big problem. But then you remember that you imported the Biggus Dickus into Supreme Commander and realize that you now have a ship the size of a galaxy that's equipped with SupCom nanotech.

You can literally churn out Death Stars by the billions in a matter of minutes.

Alright, so I'm probably just really bad at math and so I refuse to post what I got, but can someone show me the math behind the the galaxy sized ship?

>>52233506
Yes, you can. So long as there's no previous property that'd overlap.

>>52231275
It always plays pretty heavy in my chains. I make heavy use of it, and of We Are Many. I like having my duplicates running around as different alt forms of mine.

>>52233078
I don't like his design but his writing and personality are a really wonderful execution of a dragon.

>>52233506
Unless it says otherwise, then you can. It's why jumps like Dragonlance limit to within the bounds of the property.

>>52233514
Not entirely sure, though repeatedly killing Darkseid until you either get the skillbook or become confident you won't seems like a jumper thing to do.

>>52233458
All three scenario ships in the chain are easy to retrofit into making smaller ships, two of them are basically built to do that already. With the Light of Terra being the smallest of the ones on offer, you should really just say you want a Titan because you want the EVE aesthetic, because getting a massive migrant fleet is already easily possible.

Friendly reminder that on SB, Creative Mode (infinite CP) ISN'T considered a joke.

>>52233562
the eve aesthetic is nothing special, I just want multiple big ships and I'm not a min-maxer. I already have fleets of smaller support craft. I'm also looking for more between-jump permanence for the entirety of my ships. I don't relish the idea of making the same things over and over again

>>52233589
Yeah, on SB. This isn't SB.

>>52233589
Friendly reminder that this isn't SB.

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>>52233369
Here's my build then, it's pretty simple all things said.


High School DxD

POINTS: 1000

Start: Kuoh Academy
Age: 18 [F] (both free)
Status: Neophyte
Race: Dragon (600) +Western, Lightning aligned

Faction: Independent
-Sacred Hospitality +can bum a couch to crash on so long as I remain neutral.
-Senjutsu (100) +Ki manipulation! Always useful

Skills: Mana +access to own mana pool
Magic System +Draconic
Magician (300) +vast mana reserves for a dragon, magic power boosted, spells cost less mana


Alright, so I need to stop the Khaos chuckleheads from upsetting the peace, I figure as a draconic magic user I might stand a decent chance of that. Especially when I fold my DxD dragon form into my dragon altform gestalt thingy. All the power of a kaiju sized dragon monster scrunched down into a human-sized form.
Question about the setting: As a powerful dragon, how hard will the other factions try to recruit me? Who will go for the soft sell, and who will go for the hard sell?

Are there any individuals in particular I need to look out for as a dragon?

>>52233617
You don't need to minmax to realize that the Titans don't really hold their weight size wise against the three scenario ships. The Light was already anywhere from 20 to 30 km. The Colony ship is 30 km. The Dahak makes both of those look like fleas. The Dahak with SupCom tech alone can pump out ships the size of the Light or the Colony ship.

>>52233589
Friendly reminder that HeavensAnon is an SB-er.

>>52233707
>The Dahak with SupCom tech
The Dahak can do that on its own.

>>52233708
Friendly reminder that the most prolific jumpmaker is an SB-er.

>>52233708
Friendly reminder your mother can't make anybody's dick hard.

>>52233708
Friendly reminder that this isn't SB.

>>52233707
and I know nothing about dahak and therefore won't jump it. And super commander nanotech just seems like it takes the effort and fun out of everything when you put it like that. and where are you getting the materials to "pump out ships the size of the light or colony ships" you can't make something out of nothing

>>52233708
Friendly reminder, reminders aren't friendly when you're trying to cause drama and arguments.

>>52231481
Is there any reason to choose to be a natural Devil/Angel over being a Reincarnated Devil/Angel? You mentioned that the natural ones start out stronger, but the reincarnated ones have 300 CP worth of weapons in exchange for a bit less starting power. Since 300 CP worth of gear looks like it was supposed to be what balances Human against the superior stats of Devil and Angel, because both of those races can be taken for free with the right faction, doesn't that mean having 300 CP AND a power boost/growth potential mean they're better?

>>52233760
>you can't make something out of nothing
The Paragon disagrees.

>>52233760
Supcom tech actually can make something out of nothing.
Mass and energy generators exist in setting.

>>52233760
>you can't make something out of nothing
Actually Supreme Commander can, there is an upgrade for your ACU that does exactly that, the Dark Star Generator. There are also some other things like the Aeon Paragon that can create resources from nothing.

>>52233760
You realize the whole reason why SupCom tech is amazing is because they can defy conservation laws right? But if you're going to play the jumps don't exist because you don't know the setting card then there's nothing more to say really, you clearly just want that Titan bad enough.

>>52233506
>turn every later jump you take into Coruscant by modifying your property
>>52233506
>es, you can
>>52233552
>Unless it says otherwise, then you can
If you did that, you would need some phasing, SEP field, &/or dimensional tech built in to keep from messing up every later jump...
...Wait.
The God Machine is just the copy of a building like this that got left behind when an earlier jumper moved on from the WoD Mortals jump, isn't it?

>>52233366
And we have a Jump for this? Because that honestly sounds like a ton of fun.

>>52233778
>>52233789
>>52233798
>>52233830
Well now that's just TOO easy, where's the fun in that? where's the soul? where's the effort?

>>52233846
It was made by DDanon.

So yeah, get fucked fun cult game, you get a bland, bare minimum jump.

>>52233864
People who use it aren't generally the type who like effort. Nothing wrong with that though. Just means if you're not into that sort of thing, look elsewhere.

>>52233864
So what, first you didn't want it because it was minmax and too large. Then you didn't care because you didn't know about the setting. Now the science and the perks are too easy for you. I mean we can point out how the Colony ship pretty much has the same things in a smaller package and a slower rate, but you probably have no clue which jump that thing is tucked away in either.

>Biggus Dickus
>Not using a pocket dimension as your 'ship'
>Not creating tiny holes into realspace to aim your superweapons out of
>Not relishing the panicked communications of your enemy screaming about fuckhuge laser beams and relativistic tungsten rounds appearing out of nowhere and ships that don't exist
Am I the only one who does this?

>>52233105
>Magic is a bit freeform in DxD, but every race and faction has their own ways of using it.
Can you have YHWH magic to recreate the Sacred Gear system?

>>52233864
Having access to ez mode engineering just means you need bigger ambitions.
When the sky is no longer the limit its time to build a new better sky.
If you arent up for that then yes its probably over doing things.

>>52233237
Gamer Loot is based on difficulty. If you're doing the equivalent of killing trash mobs you're going to get the equivalent of trash loot.

>>52233864
It's nobody's fault but your own if you're not ready for the big leagues. You think too small. You've got a galaxy-sized starship capable of casually building solar systems and you're thinking about how you can use it to interact with a colony of ants.

>>52233889
The vast majority of jumps don't need a spaceship, much less a pocket dimension. So it's not something that's altogether very important, unless you plan on taking every jump in all the drives available. Even the Light when it came out was enough to basically flatten opposition, and the two supermassive ships that followed the Light each have their own superweapons. It's just a matter of not needing the overkill.

>>52233917
>Darkseid
>a trash mob
Anon...

>>52233864
>fun
>/jc/

Pick one and only one.

>>52233846

I'm not a fan of the Jump personally, but yeah, we got one for it. It is loads of fun though. Dragon's Dogma is so great because of the shenanigans available. Like, they've got this "don't get in the fucking water" system in place like hundreds of other games, but it's not just "fall in, you die". It's this red mist that crawls all over you said to be some weird microscopic lifeform (they give it a name in-universe that I can't remember). Anyways, point is, you're not the only one who suffers. You can actually throw goblins and wolves into the ocean and they'll get eaten too. If you play your cards just right, you can even trick cyclopses into falling off cliffs and getting eaten. I spent SO MUCH TIME in the early game just tossing shit into the ocean and giggling. Speaking of Cyclopses by the way, you can climb up their leg, up their back and onto their head before stabbing them over and over in the eye.

>>52233776
I tried thinking of an answer for this but I ended up getting a headache. The short version is that this was the pricing scheme I came up with to reflect both the setting and how the factions are setup, and that humans getting an item surplus while only having to reincarnate at a lower start than their pure-blooded counterparts is...basically just the end result.

I might revisit this, but it feels like I'd just end up shuffling numbers in a frustrating way so I might be more partial to handwaving it.
>>52233893
I assume you're being cheeky, but there is an actual answer to this. Azazel does in fact work on making Artificial Sacred Gears, and has done it a few times. It's also, according to him, possible to let these 'Artificial' Gears become 'real', and for 'real' Sacred Gears to eventually grow into a Longinus. Somehow.

But yeah if that's what you're into, either join the Grigori or track down Azazel. He's a swell dude. Just get his notes before he gets his ass sealed.

>>52233869
Eh, as long as I get the basics of the magic system so I can light myself on fire and hug monsters to death, I'm happy.

>>52233917
>is based on difficulty.
Nope, based on what you are killing. True it might be trash tier to someone capable of farming Darkseids but that still makes it pretty awesome loot.

>>52231196
Forgot an age roll.

>>52233928
Not that anon, but that's subjective.
If you can stomp Darkseid easily enough to do it ad nauseam, then he's a trash mob to you.
No idea how you'd curbstomp comics!Darkseid, though. He's pretty powerful.

>>52233669
Whoops, almost missed this. If you're a Dragon actively offering your services, you can bet the Factions are going to try and compete for it, though Heaven might be leery of you since they're mostly in favoritism towards 'pure hearted humans'. Michael himself is a pretty okay dude though, so he'd be your in with them.

There's a big list, but your concerns are mostly the Khaos Brigade and other Longinus wielders, especially items meant to counter dragons and Divine Dividing.

If you encounter Cao Cao, either have a plan or run in the opposite direction. He's the guy with True Longinus.

>>52233887
None of those things are exclusive of each other anon.

>>52233937
How have I not heard of this video game before? It sounds awesome.

>>52233917
But that's wrong. You get basically set loot for whatever you kill. A level 50 boss monster will drop the same loot for you if you are level 1, as if you are level 990.

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>>52233991
I wish they explained the affinity system better. otherwise you can easily end up with a duchess after your dick.

>>52233991

It has mixed reviews because it comes off at first like a generic fantasy game and the plot can be a bit weird, but as a member of that fucker's cult following it's soooooo gooooood. One of the major systems in the game that really sets it apart is "Pawns". You basically go through Character Creation to make a permanent helper that can have any of the basic classes (and can switch like you, so you can build them how you like) at the beginning of the game. Not only that you can hire two other pawns that other people have made for an entire adventuring party configured how you like.

It's like, classic fantasy done right with some weird shit thrown in on top. Good weird shit though.

>>52233985
No one said they were exclusive. He's just been whining about how people keep giving him answers other than the one he wants.

>>52234027
>Pawns
So are those, what, familiars?

>>52234038
So he's been saying that each explanation given has only made it sound more unappealing. What is your problem?

>>52233951
>I assume you're being cheeky
Not being cheeky. And I was not asking just about sacred gears, but the whole "Humans are born with this" thing to empower them.

The whole distribute the stockpile to unborn souls system. I would rather not have to reclaim them unless the holder is unworthy, so some way to automate the creation of lesser gears would also be nice.

Also creating Angels, since he did that, and uplifting humans to angels.

(Question, did some of the angels fall when God was still alive, or is it a political thing where they disagreed with Michael after Big G died?)

>>52234049
You get to design your own NPC follower to join you in the game and can summon other people's pawns get a full four person party.

>>52234026
A lot of people would probably like that if they don't think through the implications of her being so flighty, easily manipulated, and cowardly.

>>52233980
Well, there is technically a way. Use that one perk from Order of the Stick to pick Usagi as your rival in Sailor Moon, then fight with her/train, and once she reaches her ridiculous endgame power levels, you'll be her equal. From there, use something like Eye of Set to multiply your magical powers tenfold, and with that much power you might be able to stomp him. Not positive though, it might only allow you to beat him or be his equal, depending on what power level Darkseid's at, because comics are bullshit when it comes to that kind of thing.

>>52234059
Because all of this comes from one guy feeling indignant. >>52232504

There were better ways to stir up hype for the EVE jump without needing this roundabout justification.

>>52234068
To answer your question, there were definitely angels that fell when God was still alive. They fell in love with humans and had sex with them, something that was forbidden. Some of them are still pretty salty about it, destroying any symbol of God they can find. Considering Michael was willing to construct a chamber that allowed an angel to have sex with a demon without falling and is chill with their relationship, most likely God would have been fine with it too if they had just talked about it with Him.

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>>52233889
Nope, you're not the only one. First jump I hit that had a modern London, I grabbed an old police callbox and enchanted it to fly, teleport and cloak. It even has a unique Warehouse Key so you can reach the inside that's bigger than the outside.

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>>52231210
Posting so Heavens can see.

(High School DxD) #80
-Race: Dragon (400CP) -Let's start the snowball.
-Faction: Hell (Free) -NATURALLY.
-Background: Neophyte (Free) -Gonna start learning.
-Reincarnated: Devil (Free) -I'm a demon. Always.
-Bodaciousx5 (0CP) -ALL THE APPEARANCE. Face, Chest, Butt, Legs, and ABS.
-Mana (Free) -An understandng of mana is nice.
-Magic System (Free) -Wheeeeee, math.
-Walking on Wires (Free) -Formal speech and knowing what not to say is nice.
-All Myths Are True (Free) -Knowledge of the creatures here are good to have.
-Magical Warrior (-100CP) (Discount) -Master of the sword, which will do good for this.
-Magician (-400CP) (Discount) -Amp up the magical might!
-Contract? (Free) -Oh. Oh this is gonna be scary.
-A Face That Sells (-500CP) (Discount) -APPEARANCE.
-Fluff White Feathers (-600CP) -MORE APPEARANCE.
-Noticeable (-500CP)
-Blood in the Water (-300CP)
-Götterdämmerung (0CP)
Dice Rolls: 16 years old
-End Choice: Next Adventure

>people know I'm around
>there's a lot more violence, and there's no peace pact
>but at least i'm pretty as hell devil/dragon chuuni
>pic related

>>52234123
Oh. Now I feel silly for missing that. Sorry.

>>52234049

Sorry, had to take care of something Basically what >>52234069 said. In-Universe they're human-like beings without emotional depth or motivations of their own, existing to serve the Arisen (protagonist in the game) and doing whatever you want them too basically. They don't really fear death since they'll just respawn from the rift eventually, but they'll put their life on the line for you nonetheless.

>>52233983
I kind of want to but the True Longinus and take the option to have it not be a copy just to fuck over Cao Cao. The guy is just an absolute tool. But on the other hand, I don't actually want the True Longinus that much. As powerful as it is, its abilities don't really interest me that much.

>>52234169
>>52234049

Oh, right, and to add to that statement, you can also grab'em and throw them in the ocean and they're totally cool with it when you recover them later.

>>52234068
Oh, that's fair. I still think your best bet would be to compare notes with Azazel and possibly observe an emerging Sacred Gear, but the system has been lost for a long time so you'd have to do some homework. I think it is possible to replicate and modify, it would just need a lot of legwork.

As for creating Angels from wholecloth, you might need something outside context or a different method, but the Brave Saint system (either from the perk or when it's invented) is a good foundation for it.

And for Angels falling and whatnot, >>52234142 answered it pretty well. Hope this helps!
>>52234173
The eternal dilemma.

>>52234105
He's regularly defeated by the Justice League, and sometimes just Superman. Now, that's certainly nothing to scoff at, but planetary-level power should be enough to defeat him, if not permanently. What you really need to worry about is that he's in some incarnations vital to the universe's continued functioning.

>>52234105
>>52234243
Darkseid's power varies greatly, often because he's only appearing as an avatar of his true form rather then the real deal. His avatars are the things that go toe to toe with Supes or the JL with his true form being where he goes into full comic bullshit mode.

Looking at Gargoyles, should I get Scroll of Thoth or is the power up not enough to bother with it instead of just going Fae-Blooded?

Is there a real limit on the kinds of effects that fae magic can do, anyway? Or is it just "say anything in a shitty rhyme and it magically happens".

>>52231481
>This is enough that if you had, say, the magical power of the Red Dragon Emperor, you could manifest an actual deity based on a concept you really liked
What's that mean, exactly? Seems wildly out of place with the other examples of what the perk can do.

For Tron System I still need a 200cp and 400CP perk for USER and a 600CP perk for ISO

>>52234340
Issei once summoned Chichigami, elder goddess of breasts. Chichigami does not exist. The leading theories among the other characters is that he either created her out of nothing, or somehow pierced the Dimensional Gap to a universe where she does exist. Since creating a god is the less insane possibility in DxD metaphysics, that's what they eventually decide he did.

So, am I reading this wrong, or can I not import my companions to be my shipgirls?

>>52232961
Hey Anon, Dragon Magic just seems to be focused around the direct manipulation of their element.

>>52234142
I think it's probably more that they had sex with humans and then were prideful and unrepentant about it. In the Book of Enoch, the Grigori fell not just because they laid with human women but because they then took those women as wives and lived among humans, creating a mixed society of humans and angels that defied God's plan for humanity. I'm not sure if it went like that in DxD, but given that Azazel is a magitech mad scientist as a reference to his mythological counterpart being the one who taught the humans of their society about metalworking and sorcery, there was probably something like that.

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>>52233983
>>52234173

What sort of bullshit can CaoCao bring to bear, and what sort of things could counter him?

How would he fare against an Eva Angel like Ramiel?

How about a shot from an anti-material rifle at long range?


Actually, how powerful would a Ramiel-like Eva Angel be in DxD? Where would it rate in the DxD power scale?


A related question: what's the power level like in the setting as a whole?

>>52231481
Can you remove beings from canon Sacred Gears? What would happen if you did?

>>52234436
Google is your friend.

>>52234436
>power level vs power level questions

dear god you gotta love / hate when these show up.

>>52231481
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I'm reading about the series right now and it seems like the MC is a human who gets Reincarnated as a Devil and then imbued with Dragon flesh or something to become a dragon? If I take Dragon can I wank it as being a human made into a dragon? Just for weird personal preferences of flavor.

>>52234429
That's probably true. Doesn't help that in the Book of Enoch the Nephilim were horrific monsters that killed and consumed everything in their path, or that mankind fell to sin because of their teachings. Really, the whole thing kind of went to shit pretty fast.

>>52234436
For the most part, Cao Cao is a normal, if extremely well-trained, human. He hasn't even learned any of the chi-based martial arts or magic available to humans in the setting. However, he has the True Longinus, and unlike his comrades in the Khaos Brigade who never really take full advantage of their Longinus' power, Cao Cao is really skilled with it. It's a tremendously powerful melee weapon, capable of killing even the highest class of Devil in a single strike. Granted, it's a holy weapon, so that adds some extra damage, but it's still powerful against other types of being. It also can extend to enormous lengths, and shoot lasers of only slightly weaker power than its melee attacks, so range isn't an obstacle. Similarly, it provides very strong defenses, there's not much that can harm Cao Cao. And that's just base abilities, let me get into its Balance Breaker and Truth Ideal in another post, this is starting to get long.

>cont.

>>52234496
He doesn't get imbued with dragon flesh to become a dragon, the moment his Boosted Gear awoke, he became a dragon, at least thanks to Ddraig's soul.

Sacred Gears are fucking weird.

>>52234526
Oh, so would would taking one of the sacred gears with w dragon sealed inside make you into a dragon?

>>52232922
Added as something you only get when getting both Ultimate tablet and Server farm. Modified a bit

>>52234436
simple answer: Cao Cao will not survive a nuke if it gets dropped on him.

>>52234523
Okay, so his Balance Breaker is actually based on Buddhism rather than Christianity, kind of weird to do that with the Lance of Longinus, but whatever.

The name of the Balance Breaker is "Polar Night Longinus Chakravartine", and it summons seven orbs based on the Seven Treasures. The Wheel Treasure destroys his enemy's weapons. The Female Treasure disables women, kind of weird. The Horse Treasure can teleport things anywhere in sight. The Pearl Treasure reflects attacks. The Elephant Treasure levitates whatever it touches. The Household Treasure lets him summon an army of golems. And the General Treasure gives huge super-powerful attacks, but has some sort of vaguely-defined condition for activation.

Then you have the Truth Ideal which does...pretty much anything. It's the remaining essence of God left inside the True Longinus from when it pierced his earthly form. The problem is that Cao Cao can't really control what it does. The only option he has is to unleash it and give it a general goal, like "defeat this enemy" or "protect me". It could do anything. It might even do nothing if the Will of God likes his enemy more than him, that's happened. So consider that one a crazy wild card in his deck that he might unleash if things get dangerous.

In Naruto, there's this.

>Manipulating genes thoroughly enough to grant bloodline-limits has a one percent survival rate, and if they do survive it will only have a one percent success rate, and each success worsens these odds. Successful experiment's power will be much weaker than a bought option. That's all if the procedure is preformed by an excellent geneticist and doctor.

That could be annoying. My current build is a magi-tech AI, which is focused on hyper tech and artifice. So I'm less interested in training and the cycle of hatred than I am in analyzing chakra emissions through sub-atomic sensors.

I assume after several genius perks and Eclipse Phase I would be more then qualified to play Orochimaru.

Is the one percent success rate an actual canon difficulty or just a rule by the Jumpmaker to prevent cheese?

>>52234539
Not necessarily, but it would give you that option if you wanted.

>>52234606
It should be noted that "Polar Night Longinus Chakravartine" isn't actually the real Balance Breaker, just the subspecies given by Cao Cao. The real one is "True Longinus Götterdämmerung", which hasn't been shown yet.

>>52234606
>The Female Treasure disables women
What. Why is that a thing?

>>52231481
> Sees Jumper Gear
> Gets sealed in a canon character's Sacred Gear.
> A blank cheque to screw around with Cao Cao.
> Maybe bro it the fuck up with Sairarog.
> Hell! Give pretty boy Kiba more swords based on your powers.
> Go full chuuni and whisper Dark and Terrible Secrets(tm) as Tomoe Meguri's Blazer Shining Aura Darkness Blade.

...Heavens? I'm having trouble seeing this as a Drawback. All I'm seeing are opportunities.

>>52234539
Basically yes, since that SG is a part of your soul and there's a dragon soul inside it.

However, this means that you are weak to anything that's anti-Dragon and you miiiiiiight gain some of the instincts of a dragon.

>>52234616
Pretty sure it's a canon thing.
Doesn't Orochimaru burn through dozens of test subjects on the regular?

>>52234616
Its kind of both. Orochimarus attempts to splice wood genes into babies had a 1/100 not dying rate.
Course he didnt really care about fatalities so that could probably have been shaved down.
Maybe. Maybe not. Naruto genes are weird.

>>52234616
Mostly based on Orochimaru going through test subjects like they were tissue paper.

You might want some purely spiritual analysis/artifice stuff before you go to Naruto, since Chakra isn't entirely physical despite having a lot of biological stuff to it.

Although I'm guessing you've already got that type of stuff.

>>52234642
It's as real as any other Balance Breaker. The individual user making their own is pretty normal for Balance Breakers, sub-species are more or less expected. It would be more accurate to say that Polar Night Longinus Chakravartine isn't the default Balance Breaker.

>>52234651
Because Ishibumi couldn't think of anything else to give the Female Treasure?

>>52234628
>>52234655
Oh, neat. That saves me 600 CP anyway then. Thanks, anons.

>>52234700
Eh, fair enough.

>>52234705
Just remember that if you're going to go full dragon, do it now. The transformation process is very unpleasant, so if you only go part way your enemies might trigger it to resume in order to incapacitate you in the middle of a fight. Rizevim does that to Issei at one point.

>>52234616
Actually it's possibly nicer than canon, the number of people that Orochimaru is implied, and at times stated to have burned through is incredible. Also the line
>That's all if the procedure is preformed by an excellent geneticist and doctor.
Means an excellent geneticist and doctor by the setting. The jumpmaker has clarified that in thread before, out of jump stuff will help your success rate but it's still going to be really difficult.

>>52234731
Yeah but outside of setting appeal, DxD dragons aren't all that notable. It's definitely not something where you'd go "you can't not go dragon if you're taking this jump"

>>52234705
I have to assume there's some benefit to buying the option to be a dragon instead of doing that.

>>52234773
Aren't Dragons basically considered the scariest motherfuckers in the whole setting? Like the most powerful ones are literally stronger than God?

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>>52234606
>>52234548
>>52234523

Thanks!

So jumping him before he can power up and laserface-ing him to ash seems to be the name of the game.

Once I rip out his Sacred Gear, how much favor would gifting it to the Heaven faction get me?

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>>52231157
As hypocritical as it is, I'm very possessive. Not as bad as the "love potions" guy. But I have trust issues(not just romantically either), and that shows itself in relationships. It's nowhere near as bad with some of them, like Alice, because we have a mind and/or soul connection. Which makes things like betrayal impossible to hide.

>>52231915
Reminder that Neeshka is Best Girl.

>>52233332
You can do that with Harry Potter Magic. Space Expansion Charms.
HP Magic is the KING of utility.

>>52234774
Unique powers, I'd assume. Issei's dragonization just gives him better access to Ddraig's powers, since that's who the changes are being patterned after. Being an OG dragon would let you have your own. Having both, though...

>>52234787
Yeah, but there are only two of those guys, and they never do anything because they're constantly doing some weird tsundere thing at each other off in the Dimensional Gap. The majority of them are high-level but can be defeated by similarly high-level Angels or Devils.

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Hey guys, looking for some further thoughts on my jump.

For those who aren't aware, Ben-To is an anime literally about fighting other people for discounted box lunches at dinner time. I thought it could make for a decent jump, if small.

>>52234787
The problem is that it's a reused setting with a reused plot and reused structure. DxD is basically a weaker and more ecchi oriented take on SMT 4F (or even just the SMT franchise in general), except God is more passive and less retarded than YHVH, the Angels are a less productive but slightly less fanatical version of LAW, the Fallen Angels, Demons and Humans are all basically as clusterfucky as the Pantheist. When you have so many settings out there who reuse the same concepts, and your only real draw is that you have Breast Dragons, it's a really niche crowd that you're drawing on.

It's not that the dragons aren't strong. It's that they aren't notable because they bring nothing new to the table. They have power, but aside from that there's nothing else there because the plot is so strangely mundane and the manga is so slow. If you naturally love DxD, then there's fan appeal, but outside of that, it's hard to call it a selling point because this series has very few selling points.

>>52234809
Handing over any Longinus to Heaven would put you in really high standing with them, but returning the True Longinus to them? The spear that pierced Christ's side, still contains the Will of God inside of it, and the most holy artifact on the planet? Pretty sure you just became their best friend.

>>52234809
Pretty sizable. I mean, it is their dad in there, or at least a tiny bit of him. Plus there's the fact that you'd have taken out a major threat to the world. I think Heaven would be quite in favor of an "Angel" who did them such a solid.

>>52234773
> aren't all that notable
...you haven't read High School DxD have you?

When an old dragon shows up, people shit bricks. Certainly the Mass Produced Dragons are the Clone Troopers of the Setting, but you very quickly see the difference in power between those pale imitations and an actual dragon.

Not to mention that two of those Dragons pretty much are the reason why the carefully calibrated systems of Heaven are just barely working.

AND there's the fact that two other dragons are the reason why even the main cast won what was essentially Armageddon, they still lost and the entire political landscape has been changed for good.

Are you sure that dragons really aren't notable?

>>52234853
You may wish to put the prices before/after the perk name, rather than at the end of the flavor text, but this looks like an amusing jump.

>>52234809
Not that much. Every faction is generally composed of dickwads. The humans are retarded on levels comparable to the humans of Terraformars, the Angels and Fallen Angels suffer from plot subjective passiveness, the Demons are the only active parties because of how slow the manga is and the perspective character being aligned with them, and even they make stupid decisions all over. Heck they might just try to kill you for being a possible threat to them.

>>52234861
> manga
Are, there's your problem.

Try the Light Novel sometime.

>>52234907
> Are
...I hate myself.

Correction:
> Ah

>>52234787
>stronger then God
That's debatable. God managed to seal away Trihexa, who is the equal of one of those two dragons, even if it cost him dearly. Most of what people in-universe know about his power level came without the knowledge that he managed to seal away Trihexa and still wage the Great War before he finally died. We don't know how strong he really was.

>>52234884
You're thinking that he's saying notable as in powerful when he's saying notable as in unique to the genre, which, admittedly, there's nothing in DxD that's really unique in the genre except maybe the system of pawns. The Dragons are basically DnD immortal beastiary dragons at best, probably would be on par with some other shounen dragons since dragons show up as deities so often.

>>52234907
Honestly I got really bored when it was recommended to me, because the guy who did sold it off as the next great piece of literature rival to the Silmarillion, and honestly I found nothing like that at all. It's a bit of fun for a casual anime I guess, but it definitely didn't have enough to hook my interest. Between this and Re:Zero that was also recommended, I definitely liked Re:Zero a lot better.

So how many in story years has DxD been going for? I tend to avoid jumps whose stories have only taken place over a few years but have already seen massive amounts of escalation since you don't know what it'll be like by the time 10 years is up.

>>52234927
Well, sure, but it's not like we have a lot of jumps that offer truly unique things. I'm content to just have something neat, I don't need uniqueness. Except when it comes to Sun Wukong's gear, I refuse to be swayed by their siren song. I will not buy you, Ruyi Jingu Bang! I will not! Stop trying to tempt me with your incredible extensibility!

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Jumpers! What is your finishing move?

>>52234298
It's late, so I'm rambling, but see what sense you can make of this.

Considering the power levels of the Third Race are really wide-ranging from "Sonic Screams" to "All of Manhattan is now asleep" to "Holy shit spiders" to "Everyone is having their life-energy drained", it depends on who you can catch with your Scroll. The scroll also works on any sort of sapient spell that you meet, so may be worth more out of jump. The Children of Oberon are basically evolved natural magic, and they are universally weak to wrought iron. The iron hurts them like a son of a bitch.

For my CP, grabbing the Eye of Odin or Grimorum Arcanorum and going discount Fae-Blooded is probably the smarter move. The strongest Fae-Blooded can get to the lower-tier of Oberon's Children, and Eye of Odin makes up for any power difference between being partially and fully Third Race, basically being about half of Odin's power. The Grimorum has been used in rituals that could have created a plague capable of killing all man-kind and has been shown to function over TV broadcasts, and is a source of Human Magic.

The Fair Folk tend to specialize, with their theme being stronger and everything else being poor in comparison. Tricksters are good at tricking and do their best when their magic fucks someone over, warriors are good at warring and their magic is best when using it in battle, monsters are good at monsting and works best within whatever narrow field of monster they are. Various artifacts were also used to enhance their power, like Titania's Mirror, and there's no reason those wouldn't work for a Fae-blooded. The Third Race were the catch-all for any sort of magic bad guy that wasn't mortal wizard or Loch Ness monster or Alien, and bred with very many different species.

>>52234948
>Honestly I got really bored when it was recommended to me, because the guy who did sold it off as the next great piece of literature rival to the Silmarillion
I don't know, the Silmarillion isn't that great, either. I'm not saying they're comparable in terms of type of story, but I'm just saying that neither one is really a great book. Though the Silmarillion gets points for being written in English, the translation of DxD is god awful.

>>52234951
Somewhere around a year and a half, I think. So yeah, probably not the thing for you.

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>>52234952
>Stop trying to tempt me with your incredible extensibility!
Just buy it, anon.

>>52235010
No. I'm going to make my own awesome magic weapon, so I can stop feeling so jealous of the Great Sage Equal To Heaven. And then he'll feel jealous of me, because the Monkey King is not known for his self-control or ability to define himself via internal rather than external signifiers of worth.

>>52234962
>The scroll also works on any sort of sapient spell that you meet
For some reason I find this line hilarious. Also, is that actually a thing anywhere else? I mean, it's a cool concept, but I don't know if I've seen it in anything but Gargoyles.

>>52235050
Lots of them in Discworld, would be very handy there.

>>52234977
The writing was not all that great, and honestly, the dialogue felt cliche, the pacing felt weird and the worldbuilding is extremely shallow. The pacing part I could get used to, but the dialogue just continued to feel juvenile throughout with a lot of the conflicts coming off as extremely contrived.

When it was recommended to me my friend drew comparisons to Silmarillion because apparently the world was just as large with just as many characters. There were definitely lots of characters, but most of them had little to no depth at all, a large number just showed up, dropped some exposition, and disappeared until they were needed again. To draw a comparison, I definitely think that Tolkien did a lot more work and prep for writing the Silmarillion than DxD's author did for writing DxD. There were just way too many bizarre details that felt slapped on for posterity.

>>52234962
That does help, thanks. Are you the jumpmaker?

>>52235050
D&D epic spells can be this. Discworld also has some examples.
I want to say mage the awakening can do it too, but I forget if thats archmage only or not.

>>52235086
As far as I know.

>>52235079
Gonna be honest with you, anon, I agree. I just wanted to get in a dig at the Silmarillion. Take that, unpublished work of an author who died nearly twenty years before I was born!

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Rolled 6 (1d8)

Bored now, time for moar Stalwart Tiger.

Last Time: Tiger spent 10 years as Link, again, and saved the world from Evil. Again. Then he tried to conquer the Oceans. Then he went to Hyderdimension Neptunia, where he was the first Male CPU, and he set about building his own nation. Followed by heading on to Generic Magical Girl, where he forced Raven to join him in this HELL. And finally he went to German Hollow Quest, where he proceeded to try and take over Hueco Mundo and basically ignore the plot as long as it didn't fuck with his plans. He got into more than one punch-up with Barrigan.

1.80's Action Movies
2.Digital Devil Saga
3.Sailor Moon
4.Dead Space
5.Ghost in the Shell
6.Stranger Things
7.Seven Deadly Sins
8.Dota 2

Gonna need a replacement

>>52235129
Gargoyles.

>>52235038
You don't have to be jealous of the Monkey King's big long pole, you know.
He'd probably let you touch it if you asked nicely.
Don't you want to touch his big long pole?

>>52235129
>Stranger Things
I have no idea what this is.

>>52235137
Accepted

>>52235175
No, he'd just let me have a copy, like he gave to his disciples when they needed protection from the Thunder Immortals. He'd never let me touch the real thing.

>>52235184
I'm like three episodes into Stranger Things and I'm pretty sure it's a sadness generator.

>>52235184
Stranger Things is a very good Netflix original horror/mystery series. If you haven't watched it, you probably shouldn't jump it. Learning enough about it to have any idea what you're doing in that jump would spoil pretty much the whole damn thing.

>>52235184
>I have no idea what this is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWxyRG_tckY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9EkMc79ZSU
>>52235210
Yeah. Feels production is pretty strong.
It's also a decent spoop generator.

>>52235184
It's a show set in the 80's focusing on the disappearance of a young boy in a small town in Indiana, as well as the mystery of a young girl named Eleven, who has strange powers and speaks very little. The story focuses on the perspective of three groups: the boy's friends and Eleven, the boy's brother and the sister of one of the friends, and the boy's mother and the local police chief. There's a secret government conspiracy after the girl, and a mysterious monster lurking around that might have something to do with the boy's disappearance...

Aaaand that is all I can say without spoiling the series. It's a really good show, filled with actors who play their roles almost perfectly, including the child actors, and a love letter to the 80's. It's like if Steven Spielberg and Stephen King worked together to make a TV show.

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>>52234957
Laserface

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdU8dyjgXU0

>>52234957
Not a lot of things have survived a 10km GBE cannon so far.

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>>52235129
Stranger Things- Is this like Supernatural?
0/1000
Rolled for Free Choice- Why not Rome? "Why Rome?" A fine place to start a new empire. "A little cliche, don't you think?" Oh then where would YOU suggest? "...Little Rock?" Fine! Little Rock it is then!
Citizen
Free Avoidance- Why would I hide from danger? "Stealth" "BARK!" "Point taken"
Discount True Survivor
Discount Monster Hunting
Negotiator
Cops Are Good At Finding Things


Pretty basic build. I might have been more daring if I knew more about the setting.

>>52235379
I mean...do you care if I spoil the series? If you have no plans for watching the show, I could just tell you, but otherwise, you're better off unspoiled.

>>52235416
I'd rather you not. I might watch it eventually, but I have a huge back-log as is.