Warhammer 40k General - /40kg/

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First for Ynnari!

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Fluff question; Do you think a sufficiently high ranking Imperial noble could rent a Callidus assassin from the Officio Assassinorum to entertain them and their friends at a party?

Asking for a friend.

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this came in the mail yesterday.

wat do?

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So why are knights vehicals and these aren't?

>>52229638
Still didn't throw it away even though dubs told you to when you first asked?

You faggot, toss it out already.

>>52229621
All Hail the future queen of the Imperium of Man

>>52229662
dubs aint shit, lol. i need TRIPS for verification

>>52229657
knights dont have legs

>>52229634
Pretty sure they could, though "entertain them and their friends" would probably be understood as "I discovered a group of heretics and traitors and I'll lure them into a trap for your assassins to take care of them"

>>52229638
Stick your dick in it

>pic hasn't loaded yet on shit work internet but I know it'll be relevant

>>52229621
>Aeldari

>bigcat.png

How to nerf riptide:

Morale checks are based off of wound pool instead of model count. Unit loses 25% of it's total wounds and it must take a morale check.

Thoughts?

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Guys this is all my dreadnoughts. It's still not enough dreadnoughts for me, I need more. I need MORE LEVIATHANS, more contemptors, and more normals!

>>52229684
How about other forms of entertaining, has anyone done it before? with an assassin I mean.... asking for a friend.

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Fresh thread, post the best b8 you have

>I'll start

How do you pronounce the army this unit is from /tg/?

>>52229705
Still needs the FW Custodes Dreadnoughts.

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>>52229668
Throw it away faggot

>>52229742
krheeje

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>>52229668
Throw it away

>>52229742
How could anyone ever like playing AdMech? All their models look the same and they're not even that good.

>>52229668
It needs to fucking go out the window, into the trashcan, senpai.

>>52229744
Custodes dreadnoughts? I wonder if based chinaman sells them yet.

>>52229742
Authentic latin would be "Skitar-ee-aye" as the Plural, and "Skitar-ee-oos" as Singular.

whats the consensus on that Armageddon set?

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>>52229806
Hope he does cause they're amazing.

>>52229825
Shitty models for the infantry, sick terrain, too expensive since you barely save anything at its 130$ price point.

>>52229702
Or you could just make it more points.

Better yet, make it a walker because that's obviously what it is.

>>52229848
where was the price listed? I haven't seen it anywhere

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Statline me with and without berserker armour boost /tg/

>Friendly reminder he was soloing the equivalent of daemon princes before getting his armour of +2 edge

Buddy has built and painted almost the entire clan company Raukaan. The problem is that there doesn't seem to be a transfer sheet with enough squad numbers 1-10 in white, and he wants to keep their knee-pads black. He could paint the knees white and put the black numbers from the Ultramarines transfer sheet on there, but it would be better if he could find white ones.

There is the FW Iron Hands transfer sheet, but that only has one set of 1-10 transfers for some bizarre reason so it's useless.

Anyone have a clue?

>>52229871
It was leaked from some convention or something.

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Beginner looking to get into the game, currently getting myself acquainted with the rules. Trying to pick a good starter army, are the admech a good choice? I think the flavor is pretty sweet, and I like that the rangers and vanguards can take two wounds while still being good shooters.

Things against them is used figures will be pretty hard to come across and they look harder to paint than SM. Having to buy two codices is also lame.

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I cannot decide - I want some sexy new terminators for my imperial fists. Cataphractii or Tartaros?

>>no pic related though

>>52229874
Just use Guilliman's statline

>>52229906
>buying codexes
>ever

>>52229946
Tartar sauces look much better

>>52229668

Bin Gulliman

>>52229906
AdMech are a good army but they'll be very hard to paint for a beginner, have a shitload of rules to know and need 2 codices and the core rulebook to play.

This site has pretty good guidelines:
http://twoplustough.com/start-collecting-40k/

>>52229950

I fully intend on just downloading whatever it is I go with at first but I don't know if it'll be too annoying to be digital only when actually playing or not.

>>52229668
Send it to me.

>>52229634
No you Fucking retard. Whores exist in 40k as well.

Modelling question.
I need to build a Captain with storm bolter, power sword/relic blade and stormshield, any advice idea ?

>>52229906
AdMech have a number of logistical issues like the two books, and their strongest detachment being an old White Dwarf special that means they aren't a great starter army. That said, if you aren't twelve years old I wouldn't worry about that and go with whatever you think is coolest. You're going to spend a ton of money on them and a bunch of time painting them. The models might as well be something you think looks dope.

>>52229906
Admech are in a pretty good place right now, besides the whole two codex thing

The flavour is patrician tier and vanguard are my favourite unit in all of 40k
Go for it

>>52229848
Honestly I don't give a shit. For once this is a box I want 100% for the game itself.

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we ned to fix tau. mak them all bs5 an make stormsurg cheeper so i can bring 2 in 500 point game pls.

>>52229874
His point is that he's just an ordinary human, he beats all the monster because he's clever and he has a total disregard for his own life.

>>52229825
I already have like 40 ork boyz and I don't need any moar, but the terrain is dope though but I just use the terrain at my local shop anyways. The game itself might be fun though.

Shoota Boyz with Big Shoota or Slugga Boyz with Rokkit Launcha?

>>52230044

>Dorkz

>>52229742
skih - Tah - ree
https://youtu.be/GIDSZ4xRZ4U

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>>52229825
rules look promising
terrain's fuckin gr8
I wish it didn't have any figures in it and was priced at like $60 instead

The cards have me intrigued. Hired gun equivalents? Specialist models? Alternate team leaders?

>>52230016
And swings around an 800 pound sword at a speed fast enough to block attacks at super human speeds
Of course he'd still be
>t3

>>52230044

>taking either

Waste of points. Mind you Boyz are a waste of points in the first place so if you're taking them you might as well compound your folly.

>>52230096
>Cult Mechanicus rule cards
Huh.

>Scion card
Noice

And is that a new ork model in the front? Never seen that one I think.

>>52229668
eat it

>>52230044
never take big shootas

rate my sister buff
>My Faith Is Pure - Sacrifice a unit to give another unit Fearless for one turn

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How scummy is this list?

>>52230132
Thats a Mek anon.

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Is there a PDF of the dark vengeance 7th ed core rulebook around? I can't seem to find it. All 40k folders I looked into have the full version but we wanted to print it as it's easier to sift through during play.

>>52230149
ow

>>52230144
Rate my orks buff
>Every ranged weapon has gets hot because orks are bad at making weapons

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>>52230152
Huh, thought that was a new Mek model, don't think I ever saw it in person. Nevermind then.

Pic related is an interesting tidbit tho.

>>52230180
THATS A NERF ANON

What two factions would you like to see in the 8th edition starter box?

>Let's be realistic here it's gonna be loyalist space marines on one side but I'd love guard vs nids with them both getting new models

>>52230096
My guess is quick reference cards for the various factions.

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>>52229705
Dese are mine. I will fite u.

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Ah yes, the old "I want to disregard reality to suit my own purposes" line of thinking with a heaping helping of spite. Truly what the hobby needs.

>>52229638
throw it away already you weasel

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>>52229955
But y tho

Volkite charger does make me iron hard though

>>52230195
It's going to be Marines vs. CSM and you know it.

>>52230180
Hey didn't you write my nids codex too?

>>52230197
Two orks, though? There's a painboy card on the far end.

Not to mention the Commissar and Ogryn cards.

>>52230215
Hey fuck you man it was orks vs marines once

>>52230184
Good old 2nd Ed.

>>52230203
Well Cataphractii are cool in their own right too, but I feel like they're a bit too...I guess ultramarines for me?

>>52229668

ERASE PRIMARCH

>>52230239
Well sure, but that box didn't come out in the middle of a huge Chaos-based campaign event.

>>52230201
fuck his profile description made me cringe harder than the nurgle webm from last thread

>>52230241
Also the Armageddon rules.

>>52230239
Twice actually

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>>52230247
I do dig the tartars, but cataphractii have the slick finger claws

>>52230235
Supposedly Eldar have a Guardian team and a Dire Avenger team, so maybe.

>>52229742
Sky-tay-ree-eye

Newbie wondering just how bad Wyches are. Are they usable in even the most casual of metas? I've been looking at Howling Banshee lists as well but it feels like I'd need way too many other Eldar units to make a workable list.

>>52230255
Dubs speaks, girlyman was never released and is deleted from reality

>>52230223
Yes, in fact I'm thinking about buffing the Tyranid drop spore right now.
>All drop spores have to start in the reserve
>If they don't drop by turn 1 all the drop spores eat their contents and explode in a shower of gore upon landing
>instead of drop spore models, you place a large blast template that's S3 AP - on the deep strike point
>>52230272
The finger claws are a part of why I don't like them actually. I vastly prefer the Tartaros pattern lightning claws.
Too bad I only realized this after I built mine.

>>52230285
They are dogshit bad, but if you turbo boost a party bus or three full of them into the enemies face you could probably get some work done, it's just so hard to get units into melee

>T. Dark Eldar player

>>52230285
Really bad. If you really like the models consider doing conversions using the Wych bits for Reaver bike riders. Reavers are Wych cult too.

If you really must run straight Wyches go for one of the Ynnari formations with them. Still not good, but then at least you're getting some benefit from running them.

Tyranid Buff
>Gaunts can now cannibalize themselves if they are not in range of a synapse creature

>>52230016
>he's just an ordinary human

yeah right.

He'd need at least Straken's statline to even lift the sword.

>>52230044
grots, keep the tax at the minimum. Depends on the size of the game. The lesser points, the more "useful" boyz become.

>>52230255
>>52230288
DELETION CONFIRMED

>>52230201
>bipolar, bisexual, genderfluid
>jewish

>>52230201
Besides there's a Black Library novel when Fabius Bile says he could make female marines so they can potentially exist in canon now

>>52230294
Ha. I actually like the tactical, slim shape of tartaros but I'm not a fan of the claws. Im not sure how i'd outfit either type since my chapter tactics are pointless for combi bolters.

>>52230201
>telling people your birthdate online
>being proud of mental illness, gender dysphoria, and being of Skaven ancestry
Let it all burn. We are due for a culling.

>>52230385
False, what Fabio created were more along the lines of lesser marines. So like an Ork statline but BS3 and S4 and I3.

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Are Blood Angels Successors given the Blood of Sanguinus for their chapters? Seems like something a blood angel soon to be chapter master would ask for

>>52230311
>>52230318
Fair enough, I'll look into the Ynnari formations and see if I like any of them. I figured getting them into combat would be the least of my worries due to fast Raiders but I suppose they get shot down pretty easily.

>>52230385
>fabulous bill could do what a 40,000 year old demigod couldn't

I want ((((chaos)))) propagandists to leave

>>52230401

Tartaros unit of 10, combat squad them.

5 get lightning claws, take the grenade harness.

Other 5 take two heavy flamers, a Volkite on the sarge, then swap the sarges sword for a Chainfist because it's free. Rest of the squad can keep their fists or go claw, you only have two combi-Bolters out of five guys and since it's short range anti-horde firepower in general being twin linked in rapid fire range is maybe a few extra wounds.

>>52230430
Probably given how their geneseed works. Needs some blood for the Sanguinary Priests to activate the seed and trigger the transformation.

How the fuck do I play BA well. Especially the first company, Terminators get my dick wet.

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>>52230452
>couldn't
>implying he just didn't want too

>>52230385
Source?

>>52230469
Probably Archangel Demi-Company or Archangel Orbital Intervention Force.

>>52230471
>emperor was original MGTOW

Didn't he tell his bro malcador it wasn't possible or did I get memed?

>>52230469
Blood Angels player here You don't. But if you feel that you really want to, use the Archangels formation from Angel's Blade with 3 terminator squads. Charging out of deep strike ensures tears from your enemies

>>52230366
No wonder he's got nurgle's rot

So the emperor was silently watching over humanity pushing them in the right direction until he revealed himself after the age of strife?

So what's he doing right now in the current year?

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>>52230318
>>52230449

>Ynnari

>>52230385

>(((Black Library novel)))

>>52230460
So full of rage right now that loyals get the pre heresy tech and chaos don't

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>>52230460

>loyalists getting combi-bolters and Reaper Autocannons

>>52230201
Tumblr might as well count as a straw man example at this point

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>>52230419
>being of Skaven ancestry

>>52230199
> He has a stompa
You beautiful bastard. I still fondly remember the day my Leviathan Solo'd one of those at an apocalypse game. The sad thing about all this is that the only thing that would give my 2000 points of dreadnoughts any trouble is the Knight. Everything else would just get shrek'd in a combination of melee and shooting.

Dred Mobz are still my all-time favourite army to fight against. There's just something about an enormous army of walkers getting into a huge brawl that gets me hard.

>>52230517
>nb4 someone says he's the current American president

>>52230561
I feel I have enough numbers that it would be closer than you think.

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MELEE ADMECH VIABLE WHEN

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>>52230520
Go home Vect. Oh wait, you can't.

>>52230585
It would still be hella cool and fucking fun.

>>52229705
hey how do you change the text in that.

>>52230594
>it never will

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>>52230539
Mfw

>>52230239

Fucking DE had a spot in the starter sets once

>>52230607
Click the name of the unit in the listbuilder.

>>52230488
Malcador mentions the fact he told the Big E that some/all of the Primarchs should have been female, to avoid the rivalry of brothers. No mention of why the Emperor didn't go for it.

>>52230644
Incest avoidance.

>>52230195
It'll be Spehs Muhreens vs Tau, if I'm wrong I'll suck a dick.

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>>52230644
Because then we would have gotten incest drama?

>>52230668
Be ready.

>>52230668
Guard vs Orks. Calling it now.

>>52230460
That is actually totally baller, anon. I might do that.
>>52230539
>>52230533
Did you like the part where they had in the product description for tartaros that they would be great for use as chaos or loyalist terminators in games of 40k, then didn't give it to you for no reason?

That was pretty fucked up, dude.

>>52229906
Double checking, Skitarii and Cult are two separate factions that can take each other as allies, but can't share a CAD, right?

>>52230706
Indeed.

Stupid planning on GW's part.

>>52230691
Kirby still lives

FUUUUUUUUUU

>>52230682
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>>52230620
well basically
it seems like GW forgot how to make "the bad guys"

>>52230644
Big E said in response that because he was already male, it would create unecessary complications in the project. Granted the Emperor himself has the godlike power of true-shapeshifting, so there's no reason he couldn't have altered his own genome to make it easier. Other than just Laziness.

>>52230691
>Did you like the part where they had in the product description for tartaros that they would be great for use as chaos or loyalist terminators in games of 40k, then didn't give it to you for no reason?
I guess a part of that is because you can just use them as regular terminators for the CSM because they have all or at least most of the same wargear?

>>52230195

Guilimancast™ Astartes™ of the Ultratii™ Astartes™ chapter of Adeptus Astares™ face off against the Spiekae™ Astartes™ forces of the Chaeosii™ gods! Featuring Adeptus Astares™ Maeriines™, Guilimancast™ Maeriines™, Spiekae™ Terminaetiirs™, Spiekae™ Astartes Maeriines™ and the fearsome Haelbrutii™!

>>52230706
Yup. But there are two detachments that mix the two of them along with an Imperial Knight. War Convocation and Grand Convocation. Also Belisarius Cawl can be taken as an HQ in the CAD of either, which is handy.

>>52230644
Rivalry of brothers isn't much worse than sisters trying to one-up their brothers to prove that girls are just as good.

Also, incest. You know it would've been a problem.

What part of the fluff that got changed recently (about five years) do you just refused to acknowledge?

long-time professional ork player here

what's the best way to kill myself

>>52230644
>Go to war
>But daddy I'm on those days of the month, can I have chocolate?
>Y U so thicc?
>BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
And that's the story of Angrina.

>>52230144
A better idea
Sisters get a "Sister Commissar" who can "execute" a model to force a squad to pass any leadership check.
Except instead of "execute" it's fluffed as lesbian sex and instead of "commissar" it's a Mistress of Repentance

>>52230784
playing older editions faggot, unless you don't have people to do that

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>>52230763
>>52230706
There's also Conclave Aqcuisitorius and the Cohort Mechanicus.

Pic related is what the Conclave has to take in order to get all its formation bonuses. It's really not a good idea.

War Convocation is the most competitive one, Grand Convocation is good if you want to play fair and use many Dunecrawlers and Ironstriders, Cohort Mechanicus is alright if you just have every unit and want to play a 2000 point game without relying on a War Convo.

>>52230733
>emperor was too lazy to finish any of his projects
>blames all his failures on other people
>does nothing but sit on a chair all day
>didn't get a job in 50,000 years of his life

So the emperor was the greatest NEET to ever live?

>>52230784
Just ally in a looted knight.

>>52230644
What is the Lion?

>>52230778
Black Templars being ~1000 dudes.

Though it's not been mentioned anywhere outside of Black Library at all, only in a single book in that and only in 6E, too. So I'd argue not accepting it yet is almost reasonable.

>>52230784
Eat all your models

>>52230795
Sisters already have a "Mistress" armed with two whips whose job is to whip half-naked girls.

>>52230840
How did you think I knew the exact name of the model?
Just make her a squad upgrade for everyone
Standard Sisters statline, armed with a neural whip and a bolt pistol, can buy sergeant upgrades and whips sisters into submission

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>>52230795
Yeah...they've already got one.

>people wonder why grills play 'nids instead of sisters

>>52230778
>Tau titan
>the Master Of Mankind novel
>Guilliman returning
>SoS existing in 40k
>Kauyon/Mont'ka campaign
>Cadia being gone
>SM centurions

I'm sure there's more, but those are the ones that come to mind.

>>52230894
>>people wonder why grills play 'nids instead of sisters
Because 'nids are an all-plastic army that's easy to collect, paint and buy while the sisters are a huge niche army most people don't realize exists?
Granted female players are also a huge nice that most people don't realize exists but still.

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>>52230644
>people not wanting a faction of Amazonian super solder women

Am I in the wrong hobby?

>>52230668
But you will if you're right anyways so what's the downside?

>>52230924
>SoS existing in 40k
Did they ever say they DIDN'T?
Because I agree that it's kind of a stretch but I'm all for more female models.
>>52230930
That's Sisters of Battle. Unf unf unf unf.

>>52230690
I feel like guard vs orks is a classic 40k matchup

>>52230784
IMO both of these are pretty good
>>52230817
>>52230831

You could also cover yourself in green body paint, pick up an axe, get naked, and charge your national leader while screaming.

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>>52230778

Stormtroopers being called Militarum Tempestus Scions

I thought they stopped making edition starter sets by the time they FUCKING REBOXED FUCKING DARK ANGELS VS. FUCKING CSM WITH JUST THE NEW RULES

>>52229684
How would they even know the Callidus exist?

Answer: They wouldnt.

Polymorphine, however, might be something nobles could get access to.

>>52230987

You forgot your ™

>>52230949
Sisters do not have the Amazonian warrior culture aesthetic

I want some S4 /fit/ women

Would 8th ed pull in a large amount of new and old players if the 8th ed starter kit was set at 50 bucks? Along the lines of Assault on Black Reach

>>52230987
I too cannot accept this change.
deploying shock drone into my heart

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>>52230987
I'm fine with that, it's their atrocious fucking rules that bugs me.

That and changing their fluff from 'orphans trained to be special forces' to 'le grim-dark abused child-soldier beep-boops who cannot think independantly and only follow orders'

>>52231015
I think them making the rule book generals handbook prices instead of 85 fucking burgerbux would make people feel like there's a much lower cost of entry

>>52230949
I don't mind female models in 40k either.

iirc they slowly disappeared after the heresy for unknown reasons, but implied distrust from the imperium, and the sisters being disdained with the direction it was taking.

>>52231008
I should now draw an amazonian Sister to prove you wrong but unfortunately I'm fatally lazy
But anyway Amazonian battle nuns is totally what I get out of SoB. Maybe their models don't really represent that so well but then they are older than most people reading this thread.
>>52231015
>50 bucks starter set
If they made that it would consist of two snap-fit squads of 10 models and the rulebook delivered in a brown paper bag.

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>>52231008
Female Catachans when?

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>>52231059
Now

>>52231028
The commissar fluff of having to murder your best friend was also pretty Grim derp. How can that possibly be cost effective?!

>>52231015
Pulling in old players for a starter kit really depends on the models its packaged with. Look at that upcoming NM based kill team thing. No old players is going to shell out 130 bucks for some terrain (which while cool looking is really more of a set piece than "terrain."), SM scouts, and Ork shoota boyz. No, they'll just buy the rulebooks on ebay from people breaking up the boxes.

If it has some sprues of the supposedly upcoming Mark X SM armor and some other shit no one really has yet, then sure.

>>52231053
Everyone draws sisters thicc af, for some reason they don't want them with bulging muscles

>>52231079
>How can that possibly be cost effective?
>cost effective
Human life is literally the cheapest commodity in the imperium.

>>52231092
I like my women both thick and with muscles.
And 2 meters taller than me and with huge fat tits.
I'm going to die a virgin.

Just put together my first looters. Jesus Christ they had a really low quality build. Putting them together was a nightmare because of how shoddily they were made. Also, it feels like the plastic was entirely different from the current plastic.

>>52229638
Treat it with love and care.

>>52231103
They do it at the end of training though, and I would assume your average fully trained storm trooper is at least more valuable than a contrived test.

Imagine if to be a chaplain, a marine had to blow his favorite brother's brains out.

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>>52231106
>tfw you will never have a ripped 8ft tall gerudo waifu who you got by sneaking into her village cross dressed

Literally why live?

So grey knights squad sets are actually used for all types of squad?

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>>52231079
Yeah. I could vaguely live with it if they just got some random under-performing orphan from a new intake and told the cadet to shoot it, but it's explicitly stated it's done right at the end of training, with another recruit from their platoon, who's made it through nearly a decade of the exact same training. i.e. is basically ready to become a commissar/scion/sororitas.

Even just 'hurr shoot this kid to prove u have what it takes' is dumb as fuck, have them execute a criminal or someone that deserves it, forcing anyone wanting to be a commissar to execute someone for no reason would just mean you'd end up with a commisariat full of psyc.....oh right

Anyway, dumb as fuck.

Don't even get me started on the 'cemented an entire intake's worth of recruits into a wall as a warning because they disobeyed orders' shit.

Not only does the """"""codex"""""" only have five units, one of which is redundant if you want CAD, the fluff reads like some 12 year old's edgy fanfic.

I want the Imperium's mortal elite, not Cold Steel the Tempestus Scion shit.

>>52231180They
>I would assume your average fully trained storm trooper is at least more valuable than a contrived test.

You assume wrong. For shits and giggles, you should read the Infantrymans uplifting primer.

>>52229668
Into the trash

>>52231201
Yes they are just painted slightly different or have different backpacks or weapons

>save the termies units and dreadknight ofc

>>52231201
Yes.

>>52231186
You are a man after my own heart, anon.

Are renegade or chaos knights worth two shits? Should I keep mine loyalist instead?

My chaos army is mostly sorcs, cultists, and daemons, is why I ask. No vehicles.

>>52231231
>>52231232
Well that's convenient. Squads are also much cheaper than space marines in terms of money and more costly in terms of points so that's kinda win-win...
Where's the downside? The ugly looks of the baby carrier?

>>52231303

Paladin of Khorne is a great combat knight, and the renegade can be built with two dakka arms. Both have a really nice build.

>>52231303
From what I remember a renegade knight is just a knight you can pick any two arms for and is chaos aligned on the ally matrix.

It has the advantage of allowed you to take two of the same gun on your knight so twin rapid fire battle cannons or double gatling cannons for maximum dakka.

>>52231325
Grey knights were my first army, they're fun, but they lack things that you'll realize when it feels like other armies are playing without the handicaps you have, fun starting army though

>also don't mock the baby carrier, it's the best unit in your codex

>>52231325

The army is kinda shite in this edition.

Oh and you're stuck with a bland paint scheme and THE BETTEREST fluff.

>>52230668
The new Starter box for Sigmar was still Stormcast v. Bloodbound. 40k won't be different.

Though it'll probably be Ultra-Ultramarines instead of regular Space Marines

>>52231325
The down side is all your stylish, good looking units are bad while the hideous baby carrier is your only good unit.

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>>52231344
I could never stomach buying myself a carrier for my nights. How would you load one out though?

>>52231367
>the ultra-ultra marines meme

Wow I can't believe people actually think this is gonna happen/ taking this b8

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>>52231180
>I would assume your average fully trained storm trooper is at least more valuable than a contrived test
Considering the positions of authority occupied by proper commissars, I don't really think so. They're the guys watching the command structure of regular imperial regiments, ensuring that officers act in a way that befits their station. The guys who will make the hard decisions for those unable to do so.

They HAVE to be able to blow the brains out of even their best friends if the situation demands it. Parasitic aliens, psychic domination, chaos corruption.. turning comrades against one another is a pretty common occurrence in the 41st millennium. And if they hesitate because of sentimentality for any individual, uncountable numbers of people could be killed. The Imperium itself could be thrown into jeopardy.

The Emperor himself put it best.
>THEN WE MUST BE MALEVOLENT TOO. FOR WE HAVE EXPELLED OUR SENTIMENTALITY LONG AGO.
>HOW ELSE COULD WE HAVE ENDURED? HOW ELSE COULD WE HAVE IMPOSED OUR RULE?
>YET BY VIRTUE OF THAT WE ARE PURE AND UNCONTIMINATED BY WEAKNESS. WE ARE GRIM SALVATION
>NOTHING THAT SAFEGUARDS HUMANITY CAN BE EVIL, NOT EVEN THE MOST STRENUOUS INHUMANITY.
>WHEN WE CONFRONTED THE CORRUPTED, HOMICIDAL HORUS WHO ONCE USED TO SHINE LIKE HE BRIGHTEST STAR, WHO USED TO BE OUR BELOVED FAVOURITE - WHEN THE FATE OF THE GALAXY HUNG BY A THREAT - WERE WE NOT COMPELLED TO EXPEL ALL COMPASSION? ALL LOVE? ALL JOY? THOSE WENT AWAY. HOW ELSE COULD WE HAVE ARMOURED OURSELVES?

>>52231418
I gave minr incinerator psycannon with a sword, but most people take incinerator doom fists to keep it cheap, maybe adding a sword if they feel like it

>>52231325
The downside is that Dreadknights look stupid and you're really purpose built to fight daemons. If you want a low-entry cost army of high point-value models with strong units you don't need many of go with Custodes instead.

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>>52229608
Im thinking to put a knight into my army, but i'd still don't have one, and
waiting some brexit will takes forever.

So, what will be good proxies for it? I'm thinking of pic related guy.

>>52231344
Which handicaps are you talking about? No long range shooters / tank hunters and low model count?

>>52231355
Yeah I was actually looking for alternate schemes like white which is difficult to paint for noobs like me or actual grey which I don't know how would work out.
Also, now we have THE BESTEST fluff army (custodes)

>>52231395
So i kinda guessed right..
Is the baby carrier even posable? All pictures I've seen show the exact same pose which reminds me of a kid holding his ground and asking for ice cream with spiderman net launchers and a large toy sword in his closed fists

>>52231418
So going no baby carrier is suicide?

>>52231461
Right custodes look really good but prices look a bit steep so in that case I could consider going for iron hands.. except i'm worried about a new sm version coming out atm

>>52231395
This annoys me. I love the looks of the power armoured GKs but they're just worse than Terminators in every respect, and the Terminators aren't exactly fantastic units either. So stupid to turn Psycannons into salvo weapons.

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>>52231461
I should add that if you play against people who don't give a shit if you use non-GW models the Dreamforge games Leviathan Crusader makes for a much better Dreadknight.

>>52230215
Maccrage was sm vs nids, black reach was orks vs sm, I don't remember the one before maccrage tho

>>52231499
Yeah it is suicide. That's the biggest problem with Grey Knights, they're very monobuild. You play Librarians, Terminators and Dreadknights. That's it.

>>52231517
2e was marines vs orks
3e was marines vs dark eldar
4e was marines vs tyranids
5e was marines vs orks
6e-7e was marines vs evil marines

>>52231499
Prices look a bit steep in terms of dollar amount or point-value?

If it's dollar value just get the custodes sprue from BoP on Ebay (and the SoS sprue) from people who are breaking up BoP box sets.

>>52231441
The new heavy psilencer seems like it might actually be worth using against greater daemons for dat force. Y/N?>>52231439
So why not have you blast your friend early on? Having two potential comissars kill eachother is just a huge waste, you could double the output of trained comissars.

>>52231499
>bad shooting and low model count

Yes and yes to an incredible degree, and you don't make up for it with only an above average psychic phase

Basically while most codexes have like 5-10 different builds that work grey knights have 2 and maybe 3 that only do okay

Not to discourage you, I really liked my knights for the year I played them, they just had clear flaws that made them hard to love

>new edition soon so they might become OP again for all I know, so buy an army who's fluff and style you like

>>52231530
Don't forget purifiers in rhinos spam

Oh wait they nerfed that build with the recent FAQ

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>>52231505
>>mfw I have like 20 pagks and a purgation squad of 4 psycannons.

Night vision is what you need to fight daemons, mirite?

>>52230762
I laughed a lot, have a (you) brother

>>52229742
Ah dept us mek an i cuss

skee tar ee

>>52231566
Yeah the reason I was going for GK was mostly the idea of an elite army, also I like the deep strike mechanic without relying on too many transports.
But yeah, low customization possibilities both in terms of gameplay (not many army building options) and hobby (only one color scheme, not many character models etc) are strong downsides, babycarrier aside.

>>52231579
What was that about?

>>52230201
>Bipolar is now an identity
a literally crippling mental illness is not part of your identity, it's an illness, what the shit

>>52231632
Homosexuality was considered an illness in the past...
It's just a question of time

>>52231631
Used to purifies could zip around popping death bubbles of ignores cover inside rhinos, but then they said you can't use novas out of fire points, meaning purifiers get to meme you once then die because they have to disembark and can only move 6" that turn

>>52231631
You can't use nova powers from transports now.

>>52231499

Eh, I'm fine with it in the case of Custodes, they're literally the hand crafted alternative to the mass produced Astartes. The fluff justifies it in a way GK fluff completely fails to.

Also there's some incredibly lame fluff trying to imply that the Grey Knights are waaaaay better than those Custodes posers.

>>52231663
This is mostly the reason why I wouldn't like ultra-ultramarines to be a thing - do we really need more one-uppers?

>>52230044
Sluggas with Rokkit Launcha. Just my personal preference though.
Also, recommend using 'eavy Armour if your Mob is between 10-20 Boyz (again, just my preference).

Thinking of maybe picking up Sisters of Silence, 5 or 10 of them.

Are they worth considering to put into my Black Templars and AdMech as anti-Psyker support?

They'll probably be part of the Castellans detachment once 8E rolls in, right?

>Several guys from my local gaming groups are into writing
>They decide to make a small friendly tournament where you have to write a short story about your army (you get bonus points for this along by bringing well painted miniatures)
>proceed to write 4 pages about a guardsman watching a shell shocked enemy stumbling in the ruined no mans land costantly screaming

Is this too edgy?

>>52231632
I know someone who's actually clinically bipolar and it's just miserable for them, some days you can't talk to her because she'll either punch you in the face or break down crying, imagine going to school or work and being unable to control your emotions

>it's not something to be proud of or find identity in

>>52231696
If he isn't pointing and laughing he's a heretic

>>52231696
Might as well just bring a copy of All Quiet on the Western Front and say it's about Your Dudes.

>>52231556
>So why not have you blast your friend early on?
Defeats the point. It's gotta be a true bro, someone you've bonded with for years.

>>52230778
> Aestrae Militaerum.
Gimme my Imperial Guard back, you yellow bastards
> Crimson Slaughter
Yay (we don't sell enough possessed) we pop out of nowhere (we need to sell possessed) and noone wants to play us !(see ? Its cool, buy possessed).
> Magnus getting buttfucked again by sending custodes + SoS
At least be original, Abbadon is the cartoon villain that will be back, Magnus spent 10k years plotting before taking action.
> Girlyman being back
Mainly because "say hello to 40k-Age of Primarchs" isnt something I'm excited about
> Cypher not meeting the emperor
Linked to
>Advancing the doomsday clock to 23:59:55 without any meaningful impact.
> Also csm still not having access to heresy era stuff "Dude, where's my Land Speeder ?"

>>52230930
Slaanesh daemonettes. Now go to sleep.

>>52230690
>Guard vs Orks.
I'll go one step further.
It'll be Guardsmen vs Da Boyz on Armageddon, and the humies will be Armageddon Steel Legion.

Seriously, the Steel Legion does not get anywhere near enough love by GW (and I say that as an Orkfag).

>>52230778
Black Templars, all of it, far as Im concerned the 4th ed fluff is still valid and it will stay that way.

>>52229634
Wasnt there a story like this. The assassin killed eveyone.

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Aoight ya gits, I haz a question for youz:

Wot race iz gonna be zogged by the next part of dis 'Gathering Storm' fing?

Iz gota few teef on dem blueberry gits meself...
[/Ork mode off]
Seriously though, which race is GW going to use Slaanesh's giant dragon dildo collection on next?

>>52231879
Triumvirate of da orks

>>52231879
Orks, it begins with the 3rd war of armageddon, second part is the Octarius War and the third is Ghazkull returning to Armageddon and making a giant WAAAGH on it.

>>52229608
>tfw OFFICIAL GW memes are actually good enough to be OP pic for /40kg/

>>52229657
Because riptides are wore like the astartes power armour and knights are piloted duh!, do you even fluff?, I swear fucking imperial players are fucking ignorant.

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>>52231879
You can't get another shitty codex if your army never gets updated

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>Inquisitors get crusaders
>crusaders don't have the crusader special rule

What the fuck geedubs

>>52231879
Has anyone actually ever not had a fun game that involved

They really deserve to get a buff

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>>52231990
>assault cannons are heavy
>heavy flamers are assault

>>52232027
Orks are a melee army
Orks have I2

>>52232041
Eldar are a shooty army
>I5

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So I'm planning to make this my starting army since I'm a noob at 40k, how did I do? any suggestions, recommendations or fixes?

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>>52232081
>1686 points
>tau

>>52232105
I'm brand new I'll admit it.

should I grab one more Riptide?

>>52232117
Get three

>>52232117
No you should grab another codex

>>52232027
>heavy cannon
>assault flamer

>>52232150
I already have 3 tho

>>52232081
I don't know if this is bait or not, but you really need to read the rulebook as well as your own codex.

>>52231793
>steel legion had the spotlight during three Armageddon wars
>some guard regiments haven't even been mentioned in fluff

Just starting with space marines, I've got two tactical squads. What weapons should I build them with? I get I don't need to do WYSIWYG all the time, but what should I model to make them wysiwyg most of the time?

>>52230471
Does everyone forgot that it was explicitly mentioned that he didn't make female astartes because he didn't want them to replace fucking humanity and many suspected that they would be purged at the end of the great crusade.

>>52232081
>Tiger Shark...60 points
Is your calculator working right?

>>52232081
Why are your commanders buck naked?

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>Loyalists get new unit
>It has Chaos only gun
>Chaos doesn't get it the new unit

>>52231901
>>52231937
>Orks next in line to get fucked by GW in the fluff
I would agree with this, if it weren't for the fact that the last two races that got dildo'd (Humans and Eldar) are usually the go-to "good guys" of the setting (sort of), with the space commies/Spanish Conquistadors we know as Tau being the other 'good race' in 40k.

Going by the 'something terrible happens to "insert good race here-" in the fluff' trend (Cadia go bye-bye, the craftwirkd Eldar get fucked over hard), I'm inclined to think the Tau are next in line.

I don't know, maybe T'tau's innermost moon (that planet has 7 goddamn moons.) is actually a derelict Ork Attack Moon which the Ethereals have been keeping quiet about and somehow Orkimedes reactivates it remotely. Some "shit has hit the fan!" event like that.

Rate this ork fluff:

Warboss is only an average fighter, but he is extremely intelligent for an ork. This allows him to properly supply his Waaagh and leads them to the most successful and enticing battles. The nobs and boys underneath him are willing to follow him even though he's not the most impressive boss, because he always, ALWAYS finds the best fights.

Their favored enemies are Ultramarines, because they have an advanced enough supply chain and battle strategy to actually match or beat the Ultramarines at their own game, leading to very protracted fights.

>>52232227

Always take a special weapon: it's the only reason to take a tactical squad other than because you like the models. Either melta for vehicles or grav for general firepower.

Generally you leave out the heavy weapon because it slows the squad down, but a Grav-Cannon is the most commonly used one especially in a Rhino. If the squad won't be moving around much, a Lascannon or Missile Launcher can also work but the unit is not ideal for this role.

>>52232279
Orks are next to get fuk'd because GW lawyers will make them rename them korks.

The new korks will be well organized with standard and no-fun-allowed modeling guidelines.

And also I3

>>52232298
Cool, how about for the seargant? combi grav?

>>52232312

They'll be renamed Krorks. And the Brain Boyz will return as foretold.

>>52232316

A combi to match your special, or nothing at all. Melta bombs also have niche use. Always take a bolter over a chainsword unless you are doing something very specific, like playing chainsword tacticals or triple weapon tacticals via Carcharodons or Space Wolves or something like that.

The sergeant is not durable enough to survive challenges to buy him nice melee gear, and you only get one shot for 10 points with a combi, but sometimes it's worth it if that extra grav or melta shots kills a dangerous enemy.

>>52232279
>the craftwirkd Eldar get fucked over hard

They kind of don't, though. Biel-tan gets hit pretty hard, but they aren't wiped out - most of the population survives and their Craftworld is specifically described as in a state where it can be rebuilt. Iyanden also suffers a bit, but it then benefits from Yvraine awakening its Wraith population to full awareness. So they just got more ghostly, and their ghosts lost their biggest disadvantage.

As for the Dark Eldar, Commoragh gets fucked over, but the story ends in a position where it's being retaken by the Mandrakes and Haemonculi, while Vect and his allies are poised to sweep in and take over again. Those Commorites forced to flee have been accepted by the Ynnari and cured of the Thirst, so things are only going to get better for them.

Compared to the rather harsh brutalisation the Imperium suffered from in Fall of Cadia, the Eldar got out okay. I'd say they're actually in a stronger position now than they were before.

>>52232312
>GW lawyers will make them rename them korks.
>not realizing Orks are safe from this trademark renaming bullshitery for years because their name is spelled with a k and not a 'c'.
>See also why Fantasy Orcs became 'Orruks' in AoS. GW's lawyers LIKE the 'Ork' trademark (surprisingly enough)
And I'm pretty sure GW knows if they change the Orks' name they'll alienate their entire Ork playerbase. If they standardize the new Orks into Ultramarine levels of bland I'm pretty sure Ork players will be in open revolt. GW might be dense, but they're not THAT dense I hope.

>>52229668
Melt it.

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>>52229664
>Her was used by elven everqueen from WHFB
>Guilliman's name comes from William the Conqueror, the first norman king of England

what role does sex play in the imperium? is it promoted to create new soldiers or is it a social taboo?
i know that admech despise the process of procreation but what about the rest

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>yfw you realize the Chaos Marine on Guilliman's base is the only Chaos infantry remodel for the next 10 years

>>52232809
>social taboo
>there are literally rape camps and baby factories

It's either enforced or ignored, because human bodies are the one resource the Imperium will never run out of and people living in shitty conditions will naturally have more sex to seek some comfort and escape from their shitty reality. It's scientifically proven. It's why poor people have tons of kids (which causes a vicious cycle, but the point is, they were poor even BEFORE having kids).

>>52232766
what emotion is your pic supposed to convey? sorry little autism here

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These are the models I have. What do you guys think about the wargear selections I took to get them up to 1,000 points? Anything I can do to make them more efficient? I had to dump a lot into the chapter master because there weren't a whole lot of other options.

I also have greyfax and cawl but I'd much rather use celestine since I'm limited to two HQs.

>>52232868

I can't tell if it's a cat smiling and going "yes", a cat shaking his fist threateningly with an evil look, or a cat trying to cover his mouth while chuckling.

>>52232868
smugcat.jpg

>>52232884

I'd help you but I can't be fucked to read that shitty picture builder to spot the individual wargear. Most obvious thing is you need a transport for the second squad. You can do this by dropping a gun or downgrading the dreadnought to a regular one. Venerable Dreadnoughts suck and the only reason you should ever run one is as part of a Firespear Strike Force, if even then. If you like the model just use it but count it as a non-ven.

>>52232858
>because human bodies are the one resource the Imperium will never run out of and people living in shitty conditions
i wonder whether it was always like this even before the AI war...

>>52232907
Thank you but I'm just asking what the best setup I can field with specifically those models is. I'll get more later but I'm just trying to get a decent 1k setup going first.

I bought the SM starter kit and a drop pod squad, so that's why one drop pod and yes, I'm using the firespear formation.

>>52232895
exactly. i have no idea what the cat is doing

>>52232884
lascannon/autocannon is kind of questionable

lascannon/fist/heavy flamer iets him shoot tanks, punch tanks and also deal with infantry with a template+competent melee

>>52232937

If you are using the Firespear, then the tactical marines you put in that formation will no longer have Objective Secured. This is important because Objective Secured is a critical ability to have.

For that reason, I would recommend only putting FIVE tactical marines in the Firespear. If you wish to use the double shooting ability with the tactical squad.

For the rest of the models, place them in a Combined Arms Detachment or Allied Detachment (the latter will force you to choose a different set of chapter tactics) in any combination you want, 1x10 and 1x5, or 3x5.

>>52230987
fuck off Twitch you overpowered whore

>>52232858
what about sexual intercourse in eldari society

also can humans and eldari successfully create offspring?

>>52233007

I don't know about Eldar procreation, other than the possibly non-canon Xenology book from Black Library says they have a very long mating ritual/conception cycle that takes several years.

>also can humans and eldari successfully create offspring?

They could in Rogue Trader. I don't know of any examples of half-Eldar or children of Eldar/human pairings after that edition.

>>52229621
>>52229664
What soundtrack would fit for BobbyG/Yvraine OTP?

>>52233036
>they have a very long mating ritual/conception cycle that takes several years.
what in the fuck

>>52233067
Multiple years of space-elf sex.

what are the physical differences between humans and space elves other than the ears?

>>52233036
>I don't know of any examples of half-Eldar or children of Eldar/human pairings after that edition.

In the Dark Eldar 5E revamp, the developers talked about eldar half-breeds in the slums of commorragh. They probably all died when the city fell.

Do the Skitarii Rangers and Vanguard boxes have the same leg sculpts in both kits?

I'm making a Skitarii team for STORM HIVE ARMAGEDDON or whatever the fuck its called. It would be nice to have unique bodies on every fig, but I'm guessing the two kits share a lot of the body components?

>>52233093
its the very same box actually

>>52233007
Back in Rogue Trader there was a Half-Eldar Ultramarine.

>>52233093
literally the same box. it's a dual kit

>>52233087

Actually that's made somewhat more disturbing when you add the "years" part and a number of disturbed haemonculi.

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Would it be legal to use this as Kairos?
They're just about the same height.

>>52233120
Thank you!

On one hand that sucks, because it limits the amount of pre-sculpted unique parts I can use. But on the other hand it means I'll have all the Vanguard bits to hack up into Ranger decorations.

do you think eldar smell different compared to humans

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>>52229946
Kraut Scientist (Eternal Hunt) did a conversion based on this image, and goes through a step-by-step - I think the shoulder pads are Defiler shin guards or something.

So a friend of mine is giving me his Khorne daemon stuff in exchange for painting his stuff.

40 bloodletters, a Daemon prince, and a bloodthirster + the Daemonkin codex

Where can I go with this to build a good 1850 point list?

>>52233160
Kairos uses the same model with a kit added to put on the extra head I think.

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>>52230010

Are eldar physically stronger than humans?

>>52233160
When using something as a counts-as, the most important part is the base, really. As long as both parties agree that the model itself is fine as a substitute there's no problem with proxying.

It's like those guys using Gundam figures as Tau suits. They fit on their bases and are roughly the same size, so there really shouldn't be any trouble unless your opponent is a huge fucking faggot who hates fun.

>>52233060
https://youtu.be/FO_pHz-Yxa0

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>>52231967

That's not true!

>>52232766
Bobby G × Yvraine confirmed

>>52233060
https://youtu.be/t5Sd5c4o9UM

>>52233060
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X_ViIPA-Gc

He literally already went to hell and came back and said that he accepts her decision of leaving.

It's perfect and you know it.

>>52233060
You know what we need? Art, somebody get me a drawfriend.

>>52233304
>>52233363

The amount of consideration going into you selections is disturbing.
...oh well, it's getting normal by the day
Broken optimist x suicide cultist is a go.

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>>52233214
I know but I really, really do not like how they're making Tzeentch beefy like Khorne. I don't like the direction they're taking the way warhammer looks in general really.

>>52230010
It's a meme, but you're half right.
Without the Riptide or Stormsurge, Tau is a pretty shit codex. Crisis Suits are pretty average for 2017, and everything else is criminally underpowered.
And the Riptide isn't even that good within its own codex, the real issue are formation and ally rules that let you take a Wing of them in an Eldar list for free.

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>>52233363

>>52233395
So is Bobby G Katie Perry in this?

>>52233395
>Bobby would gladly help the Ynnari wherever he can but never at the cost of the Imperium
>he'll be there for the final act and would most likely seal a pact with her
>sometimes even he just prays to the god of Sex, Drums and Rock 'N roll, which is clearly the Emperor
>Yvraine has been around and knows the territory and they WILL all turn to dust and fall eventually

This is eerily fitting.

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What's the fluffiest Blood Axe list possible in 1500?

>>52233363
>futuristic lover
Yep, this is Bobby's lyrics.

>>52233483
>I don't like the direction they're taking the way warhammer looks in general really.

What's wrong with GIANT ORNATE FLAMING DETAILED GOLD AND SILVER TRIM ON TRIM ON TRIM YUGE (HUUUUGE) MEGA GIANT SUPER GIGA LARGE TURBO DETAILED THINGAMABOBS with additional TINY RANDOM EXTRA DETAILS WITH SMALLER DETAILS ON THEIR DETAILS AND A FEW DETAILS IN THE DETAILS?

I mean it's not like they're making wolf models with wolf riders who have wolf hammers or anything right?

>>52233550
Plot twist: They're BOTH Katy Perry.

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I tried to take the advice of you all from last night for building an EC list.

I was warned off of making a shooty squad so I put this together.

Any feedback would be appreciated.

>>52233483
They decided to keep the creative team that made Chaos: Dinosaur Legion

That's the problem.

>>52233060
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ugkg9RePc

>>52231186
My brother from another mother

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>>52233599
True.

>>52233662
meant for >>52233554

>>52232254
>It has Chaos only gun
>Chaos only
>produced by the imperium
>OoP because now it's easier to produce assault cannons
>csm keep it because it's easier to produce and maintain than assault cannons for them
>tartaros aren't that compatible with assault cannons anyways
>reapers are probably kept in the armoury in every chapter as a relic
They never were chaos only, it's only because they're Poor's man assault cannons and the only thing csm can afford.

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rate

>>52231537
>6e-7e was marines vs evil marines
6e-7e has had multiple starter set releases. The main one, Dark Vengeance, is Dark Angels vs Chaos Space Marines, but they've also had:

Blood Angels vs Tyranids
Space Wolves vs I believe it was Orks
Deathwatch vs Harlequins
And I think there might have been a vanilla Marines vs Tau one in there too

>>52229833
These look so good. I have no idea why they couldn't just be included in the Talons of the Emperor box set. I'd buy it if they were.

Why are they so hard to put into plastic? Can't the fags at the GW factory just go next door and grab the mold?