Song of Swords: Poles are Sarmatians I Promise

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fecht when

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FECHT WHEN

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>>52194564
>>52194579
fechtmind

>>52194476
>Two Vis. Iconics remain
>It would be so easy
>But I'd lose all my GM+ goodies

Hmmm......

>>52194634
Make another account and pledge again.

>>52194653
Okay it wouldn't be THAT easy I'm not made of money.

>>52194653
Also at that point it would just be more economical to get things as add-ons.

>>52194712
do that then

>>52194733
How do add-ons even work? Do you just keep your tier but change the money amount and then message them saying "Hay I paid X extra $'s send me Y add-ons!"?

>>52194788
Usually, a poll is sent out to backers that lets you assign the extra money you pledge to addons.

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>>52194620
I want it. I need it.

>>52194697
>not impoverishing yourself for The Cause
Get it together, Comrade.

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Cant wait for the final release of the rules next year, I just dont know if I should run it for my group before then or wait till feb which is still a pretty long way away. They loved that system that shell not be named so they would love SoS. Guess you cant really have enough SoS for that to be a real problem though.

>>52196649
Go ahead and say Riddle of Steel. It's Jimmy who can't say it, not us. You should play SoS so you can find flaws and praise high points in the system. And you can always play Bovine or BoB too.

So any basic idea for types of iconics we are getting? other then khopeshfags.

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>>52196692
>you can always play Bovine

Bovine is the Pathfinder of the RoS family.

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Look what I found deep in my folders.

>>52196784
Is that captain crunch?

One of my player wants to take the retainer boon, any advise of a why to handle it? Was think of kind of using reverse dependent rules for creating the henchmen.

>>52196730
It sucks the prize guy hasn't show up and Haki has to use his slot.

>>52196730
coffee gonna make zellmurhaja a thing.

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>>52197221
>>52197657
>Only one Iconic male is taken

Wait so which is it?

>>52197799
Shit, man! I dont know! I'm just a dog!

>>52197966
No.
Fecht when?

>>52197974
NEVER, at this rate.

>>52197974
Everyone's dying of the plague.

>>52198507
I know I am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lWvu2LzDkA

>>52199420
Gary Coleman makes a pretty good spokesperson.

Apologies, my computer died today, had to restore from backup, which is always fun. Let me get shit ready for fecht, as the shit I had prepped was not backed up, so I'll have to redo all that. Fecht soon!

>>52199939
>computer dying
>needing blood transfusions
>twelve simultaneous hernias
>weak liver
This isn't good
We're worried about you

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>>52200159
It was a depakote infusion, I've never had a hernia, and I don't know what my liver has to do with any of this. Regardless, let us begin.

Kal Rahzed, Nisperadan Raider

CP: 14/13
MP: 9/8
FR: 2
CAR: 9/10

STR 5 AGI 5 HT 5 END 5
WIL 5 WIT 5 INT 5 PER 5
ADR 5 TOU 5 CHA 7 MOB 7 GRIT 5 CAR 10

Profs:
Officer School Level 8
Polearm (+1)
Bow (+1)
1H Sword (+0)
Wrestling (+0) Superior Trap, Superior Coup-De-Grace, Superior Limb-Break
Throwing (+0)

Talents:
That was Left-Handed! [N]
Flourishing Drills [N]
Grappling at the Sword [N]
Good Form: Rideby [J]
Headguard [J]

Skills:
Awareness 5
Craft: Painting 6
Knowledge: History 4
Ride 5
Leadership 5
Tactics: Foot 4
Stealth 3

Melee Weapons:
Karthacki Hooked Arming Spear with Queue 2H|VL|7(+0c)|7(+2p)|7(0) Fluid Thrusts, Hand-Off, Hook 4WT
*1H|VL|9(-1c)|7(+1p)|9(0)
Scimitar 1H|M|7(+0c)|7(-1p)|7(2) Draw 2, Cavalry Sword 0.5WT
Rondel Dagger 1H|S|7(-1c)|6(+1p)|7(1) Fluid Thrusts, Light Blade, Thin Blade
Large Knife

Missile Weapons:
Composite Horsebow Bow 25|7MTN|5p|4|Cavalry Bow 3
10 Bodkins, 10 Broadheads, 10 Heavy Broadheads
6 Burdinadin Type 19 Hand Grenades

Armor:
Skullcap w/ Identifying Crest 8/7/6 Upper Head Hard 0WT
Silversteel Facemask 10/9/8 Face? Restricts Breathing 1, Hard 1WT/-1PP
Mail Coif 6/4/3 Lower Head, Neck, Upper Head Hard, Layer 1, Mail 1WT
Torso|
Lamellar Vest 5/5/5 Full Torso Hard 1WT
Mail Vest 6/4/3 Full Torso Hard, Layer 1, Mail 0.5WT
Quilted Shirt 2/3/4 Full Torso, Groin, Hip, Thighs Textile 0WT
Arm|
Vambraces 8/7/6 Forearm Hard 1WT
Gauntlets 8/7/6 Hand? Hard 2WT
Mail Long Sleeves 6/4/3 Elbow, Forearm, Shoulder, Upper Arm Hard, Layer 1, Mail 1.5WT
Quilted Long Sleeves 2/3/4 Elbow, Forearm, Shoulder, Upper Arm Textile
Leg|
Quilted Leggings 2/3/4 Groin, Hip, Knees, Shins, Thighs Textile
Leather Boots 3/2/2 Feet


Boons & Banes:
Literate, Karthacki, Lagorian, Ruvian, Helian (4)
True Grit (6)
Langauges (3) Karthacki, Ruvian, Lagorian, Burdinadin, Ohanedin, Helian
Brave (3)

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>>52200270
>Silversteel Facemask

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>>52200270
It is a cool spring night, the full moon providing a good amount of lighting, even within the dense wood of the forest.

You and your cadre has been following a Lagorian caravan on route to Glade Mendiak for the last week, on the orders of Kal Amar. Last night, as you camped, a messenger Shulka arrived with orders to move on the convoy as soon as possible, and to secure whatever cargo they are transporting.

Tonight, you, your 10 Shulkas, and 2 subordinate Kals (all Havas mounted), are on the outskirts of the forest in which the Lagorians have made camp. They've been camping away from the roads during the night, trying to stay out of sight. In the day, they've flown no banners. You've estimated the party some 25 strong, all fighting men. You have the cover of night, and their camp lays within the woods, down the trail ahead.

How shall we proceed?

>>52200452
Surround in squads, try to eliminate sentries stealthily with your Kals, using those bows.
Consider distributing grenades among the men to use as an opening shock; if not that, oil flasks on tents.

Once they are surrounded, launch the ambush.
Plan B is have your Kals fall in on you and cut a path directly for their commander while the shulkas attack.

>>52200508
>bows
>stealthily
Sniping isn't going to be very effective at night. Even if our MPs are dropped by just -25%, we have really bad chances of shooting anyone. Just forget about shooting through armor.

>>52200508
>>52200555
Ah, I should note, we'll be using hybrid rules, Ballad for all our missile stuff, SoS for engaging and combat (obviously). Feel free to ask rules questions as they come up.

>>52200508
>>52200555
You and your squad pick your way through the forest. One of the advantages of Havas, while they may not be as robust as horses, they have little difficulty navigating forests.

Soon, you find the edge of the camp. They've set up in a clearing, forming a roughly circular camp. Three rather large tents are dotted around, with the four covered wagons near the far side of the camp. Most of the horses are tied up on the left side of the camp, with a water trough. You can see two pairs of watchmen from this angle. It's hard to make out equipment from the distance, but you see one of the duos has a polearm of some sort, while his partner has a shield sitting next to him.

>>52200821
Are we going to kill them all tonight, or just cripple them for later?
I have half a mind just to ride by the camp, throw a grenade or two at the horses so they cant move their cargo, then ride away laughing.

Regardless, We need an immediate plan. hm

>>52200821
HAve some of your men take out the sentries with bows, throw flaming oil at the tents, try to pick off anyone coming out. At least after the sentries, no one should be in much armor.

>>52201247
We don't have any oil with us, but we do have the grenades.

>>52201268
How do the grenades work? Can we tie one to an arrow and shoot it?

>>52200821
What are Havas?

I'll probably miss this kickstarter. Would I be able to buy either a hard copy or pdf once this is all funded?

>>52201435
They're fulfilling through DTRPG, so you'll be able to just order a print-on-demand copy and/or PDF from there.

>>52200821
>>52201185
Give each kal a grenade, including yourself. Bomb each of the two guard pairs, and the horses, simultaneously if you can.
Have the shulkas rush into the camp with the detonations as a cue, while regrouping with the Kals to identify and run down whoever is in command.

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>>52201363
The grenades are a burdinadin trick. When you pull a metal pin from the cap of the grenade, flame is produced spontaneously from the cap, giving you about 3 seconds to throw it before explodes. Due to how the grenade is laid out, it'd weigh down the arrow terribly (+2 TN), and you'd have to pull the pin and fire immediately, were you to rig it to an arrow shaft.
>>52201381
Havas are a subspecies of the Devekushu bird, bred to be riding birds, think Chocobos from Final Fantasy. They are generally poor mounts, being smaller, less hardy, and having less stamina than a horse, but Nisperadan Kals (Kal Amar's guerrila cohort chiefly) like them in certain roles, being quiet, swift, and maneuverable mounts.

>>52201445
Awesome

>>52201484
Might we throw one grenade at each group of sentries, then one at each tent?

>>52201532
I feel like we'd get more use out of bombing the tents, then having the Kals move in on the guards. The Shulkas can move in to the camp to either help the Kals, or to round up any survivors from the tents.

>>52201459
If we kill the horses, we can't take the loot.

>>52201532
>>52201459
that's two votes for the "blow them all up" plan

>>52201532
Potentially. Between you, >>52201567, and >>52201459, it's seeming like we'll split the cadre, with the three Kals (yourself being included), bombing the tents and guards, then moving into clear the camp with the Shulkas. Do you want to stay mounted to do so, or dismount and creep closer to the camp, into optimal throwing range?

>>52201592
We need the speed from the mounts.
And I think giant chickens should disorient the enemy?

>>52201614
It's freaky Not!Spain, they're used to it.

>>52201592
Assuming they're not sleeping armored, they'll still be at a disadvantage if they hear us on the mounts, whereas we will armored and fast and chucking grenades.

>>52201614
>>52201663
Alright, so a mounted grenade flinging, then wheeling about to clear the camp. 3 Shulkas to a Kal, +1 to your own party. Sound right?

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>>52201710
do it nigger

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How necessary are the NPC cards? I might support the kickstarter to try it out but if they aren't important I'm not going for the higher tier.

>>52201904
In the absence of a full monster manual, the NPC army decks provide a quick reference, both to the fluff and the mechanics, of common "enemy" types.

>>52201904
>battle glasses barby

>>52201873
Very well. You give the orders, splitting up the grenades between yourself, Kal Shadi, and Kal Bahram. You will be leading the center, Shadi the left flank, and Bahram the right. The cadre forms up, and the charge begins. Give me two throwing rolls, ADR+MP, so 5+8. The first roll will be for the guard duo, and the second at a tent.

>>52201904
You can always just make your own NPCs.

Would you rather:

Have a bunch of cards to slap down as a baseline for your random NPCs

or

Make one NPC baseline and use it for all your random NPCs?

or even just stat out every single fuck ever

>>52201904
Utterly unnecessary

Rolled 1, 8, 10, 8, 3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 3, 9, 4, 6 = 79 (13d10)

>>52201961
It's Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve

>>52201961

>>52202027
6 Successes, more than enough to land the whistling grenade between the two guards. Someone give me a second.

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Rolled 2, 2, 7, 1, 2, 5, 4, 9, 8, 4, 5, 10, 10 = 69 (13d10)

>>52201961
lessdoit

Rolled 6, 10, 10, 5, 5, 9, 4, 9, 3, 8, 8, 10, 6, 2, 1, 5, 5, 6, 7, 2 = 121 (20d10)

>>52202081
Very nice. Here's Shadi's rolls.

Rolled 2, 6, 4, 1, 6, 8, 5, 6, 6, 1, 5, 8, 10, 4, 7, 10, 3, 10, 10, 2, 9 = 123 (21d10)

>>52202098
She misses her tent, deviating. Bahram's rolls, with the first die being Shadi's grenade miss.

Rolled 2 (1d10)

>>52202140
4 meters too close! Thankfully, that doesn't mean much. Bahram also misses a grenade toss, by 6 meters!

>>52202181
>>52202098
Thankfully we have more grenades.

>>52202181
Bahram is also too close! You'll have to lecture them on follow-through, if they make it through this.
>>52202206
In fact, you do not. You split yours between the three of you, two each, with each Kal having two targets.

The cadre wheels about, as the grenades detonate!

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>>52202253
The night turns to day a split second, as elven magic goes to work! The watchmen at the front of the camp are reduced to pulp, and the tents are ripped apart. However, due to the shoddy throws of your compatriots, it is not the coup de grace you'd wished it was. As the lines of riders wheel about, some survivors struggle out of the tatters of fabric and flesh. Along with them, some fully armed and armored men come out of the center wagon. Why they were already armed is a mystery. Your squad is going down the center of camp, and you can either finish off some of the tent survivors, or engage the armed wagoneers before they engage the others.

>>52202346
Kill or incapacitate the survivors, otherwise some will get armed and add to our enemy's number.

>>52202386
Fair enough. What weapon shall you be engaging with?

>>52202487
In melee? The scimitar, let's use the scimitar and rondel dagger

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>>52202548
Very well.

The cadre's 3 prongs finish their turn, and charge into the midst of the camp. You rip your scimitar from its scabbard, selecting a survivor to run down. In the moon's light, you can see the man, bloodied and ragged from the explosion, still had the presence of mind to throw on his morion, pick up his rodela, and draw his espada. These are professionals to the core. A second before you reach him, he realizes you've selected his neck for the chopping block!

You're charging into the bout, so you will have to declare red, and the footsman is declaring yellow. Give me maneuvers.

>>52202632
Ride By Attack, all dice

>>52202674
Gimme a target and attack type.

>>52202698
What's his state of armour, we know he's got a Rodela and Espada, but is he naked aside?

>>52202728
He has a loose tunic covering his shame, but yes, other than the helmet and shield, he has no real armor. The man was just trying to sleep, after all.

>>52202698
neck, swing

>>52202743
Gonna go with swing at the arm without the shield

>>52202743
I'll go with Upper Sword Arm as well.

>>52202815
Lower sword arm is better, it has more chances for disarm checks at lower levels

>>52202828
Too true, changing my choice>>52202815

>>52202751
>>52202763
>>52202815
Lower Arm it is. I'll be imposing the -1 back arm TZM for this. Regardless, he will be going with a block attack, with 8 dice blocking the attack, and 4 dice swing at your lower right leg. So, 1 AC, and 12-1 at the lower sword arm. Someone, roll me 11 dice at TN 7.

Rolled 4, 6, 3, 7, 5, 7, 9, 5, 9, 8, 3 = 66 (11d10)

>>52202878

Rolled 4, 3, 5, 2, 9, 1, 9, 2, 9, 2, 4 = 50 (11d10)

>>52202878

>>52202899
Okay, 5 Successes, a formidable hit. His block.

Rolled 2, 7, 5, 1, 7, 4, 8, 5 = 39 (8d10)

>>52202930
Woops.

Rolled 3 (1d10)

>>52202959
2 BS hit. Rolling for location.

>>52202971
Hands off
>>52202959
Damn, not enough for Draw, we didn't DDC did we?

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>>52202971
A solid swing. You feel bone break as the blade hits, cutting a deep bite into the man's sword hand as you ride by. He drops the sword with a scream. Roll me a Ride Check, with 12 dice.

Rolled 10, 2, 4, 9, 9, 10, 7, 1, 8, 9, 4, 7 = 80 (12d10)

>>52203000

>>52203016
Flawless.

Your shulkas follow behind you, screams signalling their effectiveness. Before you, the group of armored men have formed around the center wagon, polearms out to ward off the incoming Calvary. Shall you continue the charge?

>>52203058
Pull back, start shooting? How many are there?

>>52203082
4 of the men are armored, but some of the survivors from the grenades have rushed to aid (hide behind) them. So, you'll be facing down 7 men with your own prong of 5, with 8 more men coming to your aid once they finish off the scattered survivors.

>>52203124
Wheel and loose, bows, wheel and loose.

>>52203143
Yep, this, time to be annoying horse archers and kite them as best we can. Shoot the unarmored ones first, just fill them with heavy broadheads.

>>52203143
>>52203169
Alright, time to be chocobo mongols. Gimme a roll of 11 dice, an Aim+Power Draw, or 18 dice, two normal shoots.

Rolled 7, 10, 1, 3, 6, 1, 1, 10, 4, 7, 5, 7, 1, 4, 3, 9, 3, 10 = 92 (18d10)

>>52203200
Double tap a bastard.

>>52203217
A miss and a hit! Gimme a location roll.

Rolled 4 (1d10)

>>52203235

Rolled 7, 8, 1, 6, 7, 5, 7, 10 = 51 (8d10)

>>52203272
Right Arm! The unarmored man loses his sword.

>>52203303
Arrows whistle past as the Shulkas pick and fire on targets. Only 2 men drop, arrows being stopped by the heavy armor of the footsman. During the wheel however, one of your shulkas overextends, and is hooked off his havas, falling in front of the lagorians! How do you respond?

>>52203367
We've killed all 3 unarmored? Sheathe the bow and draw our spears, try to circle in close enough to defend(cross defend) him without directly engaging, have the rest of our group pincer them, maybe with one still firing his bow.

>>52203367
Well shit, is he someone we want to keep alive personally? If not, I guess we use the poor bastard as a attention magnet and when someone goes to finish him off, have the rest of us push through the gap in their formation this creates.

If we do want him alive, we cry salty tears and rush over to try pick his ass up and loop him onto the saddle behind us

>>52203417
>>52203468
This is good, this means they're going to mob around this guy for a little while. Maybe that makes it easier to shoot someone?
If not, let's let him be and go on. Some casualties are expected!

>>52203468
He is one of your cadre, and you'd know him in a professional sense, if not all that well personally. You like to think you have more pride than allowing one of your subordinates to get ganked under your watch.

>>52203468
>>52203497
Two people for letting the man get ganked while you shoot the rest. For shame. Roll me at a shot with 11 dice, you'll want to be power drawing to punch through armor.

>>52203417
>>52203499
Have the two of the shulks keep firing at anyone who goes near him, while us and the remainder ride in close enough to draw their attention away from him, and fuck it we can charge one of the bastards. Ride by attack with the spear?

Rolled 10, 5, 6, 3, 7, 10, 7, 4, 6, 9, 1 = 68 (11d10)

>>52203510

>>52203516
>>52203510
We're shooting the first fuck that tries to kill him, right?

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>>52203516
5! Good hit. Gimme dat location.
>>52203522
Yes.

Rolled 2 (1d10)

>>52203540

Rolled 7 (1d10)

>>52203547
A leg hit. This could hurt.

>>52203552
The bodkin punches right through the mail, the arrow slamming straight into the man's shin. He drops, screaming. The shulka, his left arm hanging limply at his side, scrambles to his feet, drawing a dagger and quickly finishing the screaming man. Arrows scream in from the left and right, and the rest of the men become pin cushions under your assembled cadre.

The lagorians are defeated, and the prized wagon awaits you. What shall you do?

>>52203602
Make sure the guy who feel off his Haza didn't break his arm too badly, it'd be a real shame if he couldn't swing his sword nor pull a bow again

>>52203614
We've likely got someone with Surgery that can do that better than us.Time to make a quick go-round and kill most of the survivors, try to keep at least one non-grunt alive for questioning, and then meet up with our Kals.

>>52203614
You dismount to check on the man personally. He's sat himself down, undoing his ventail to pant in pain (you recognize the man as Reza, one of the younger recruits you've trained). He tries to wave you off as you probe his arm, but nonetheless lets you feel for the break. It's in the upper bicep, but nothing came through the skin. Feels clean, he'll fight another day.
>>52203642
The Shulkas have already fallen into the task of finishing the wounded, and your Kals stride up to meet you. You see Bahram's squad is two short, but Shadi seems to have kept hers intact.

"What do you want us to do with the wagon?" Bahram rumbles out from behind his mask, pointing at the cart so many men died to protect with his Kilij.

>>52203664
We were told to secure it, right? It's secure. We don't need to open it.


OPEN IT

>>52203684
Do you want to send your men to open and secure it, or shall you personally?

>>52203664
Do we know what's supposed to be inside? If so, check. If not, we try our best to take it back to base, or send a messenger for horses while making horse stew out of the shredded remains and settle in for the night

>>52203714
Lets have a kal do it, it might be sensitive information.

>>52203727
You have no idea. Maybe Amar knew, but he never mentioned anything. He just ordered you to follow, then secure.

>>52203744
The we follow and secure. A disobedient hound gets punished

>>52203727
>>52203738
>>52203807
So, we checking personally, letting a Kal, or leaving it be and getting it back to base?

>>52203821
Personally. It's not going to be a djinn or demon or something.

>>52203821
>>52203738
Let's check it ourselves.

>>52203839
Grues

>>52203821
Personally. We want to be sure it's all here, right?

>>52203839
>>52203853
>>52203861
For the record I will state I was against this and that mute is best girl

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>>52203913
Oh boy, here we go.

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>>52203839
No, of course not.

You order your men to finish tiding up, and head to check the wagon. As you step over the bodies of the dead, you notice the armed men aren't wearing Lagorian equipment. The Lagorians favor the cuirass and shield, whereas these men were wearing mostly full mail, wielding polearms. Curiously, one even has a military fork. You set the thought aside however, and step up into the wagon.

Inside, alone aside from some cushions on the floor and a lantern, sits a steel bitch. A Lagorian invention during one of their inquisitions. This must be the cargo. Why would Lagorians have been transporting this to the Mendiak elves? You dismount once more, ordering the wagon to be hitched up, and prepare to set out.


A couple of minutes later, the cadre and the wagon are leaving the forest. Your cadre is alert, eyes peeled for any sign of Lagorian reinforcements, however unlikely. Bahram looks uneasy, perhaps fearing punishment for his sloppy work in the raid. You don't think he'll be in to much trouble, but Amar demands the best of his cohort.

Behind you hear a loud crash, and Reza's loud cursing. You turn to look, seeing that one of the wagon's wheels has come off. You ride back to help, and as you and one of the Shulkas pick up the lost wheel, you hear a rattling from inside the wagon. The bitch must have fallen over.

The rattling gets louder.

You hear metal strain and rip. The wagon sinks further on into the dirt, as if it suddenly took on more weight.

Then you hear the howl. Loud. As loud as your grenades. Your throat tightens, your ears ring, every hair on your body a needle.

Then you hear the howl answered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tdu4uKSZ3M

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Polearms are the king of melee

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>>52204014
>we used all of our grenades already

>>52204014
Aww shit

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>>52204023
And Enkindu is the King of muh dick. No need for fem-Gil to exist, that's a dumb idea

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>>52199420
>"We have To End Him Rightly, you can totally do that"
>Literally a flat, unambiguous lie
>None of Jimmy's coworkers notice

>>52204152
Called a murderstrike son

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>>52204100
Gilko 5* when?

>>52204171
No no, "To End Him Rightly" is a meme technique where you unscrew the pommel of your sword and fling it at the other guy's head before rushing in to kill in with the sword.

>>52204189
Bizarre Gimmick Blind Toss for a sword. Bing bang badaboom

>>52199420
>you want to be a part of this journey
>it's been three(four?) years
It's been one hell of a ride.

>>52204014
Time to put that silversteel facemask to good use!

>>52204225
Well fuck. He wasn't lying after all.

>>52204770
Special move Blind Toss works too since you can't do it often and you won't get some weird penalty to swinging your sword just because the pommel can be unscrewed

We will be able to get the cards later on in print too, I hope?
Can't pay for the deck+addon shipping right now, but the Armor and Weapon deck would be super handy I think.

>>52205027
>@Oghma_EM--Thanks for the support over the years! To answer your question: yes, we will have decks available for print-on-demand after the Kickstarter, however the price will likely increase, and won't be available until Backers have received their rewards.

>>52204225
But that's a weapon upgrade you have to pay for.

>>52204863
And that's a special move you kinda have to buy. It's not a standard maneuver

>>52205088
>It's not a standard maneuver
Neither is lobbing your pommel at a cunt.

>>52205101
But End Rightly should be if Murderstrike and Half-Sword are.

>>52205152
No

>>52205073
Oh, yeah. I just read that too. Should have looked at the comments section sooner.
Thanks though senpai.

>>52205088
So?
>>52205152
Nah

>>52199420
I am seven minutes in and this is fucking horrible

>Zach's mic is shit
>Bones is rambling about absolutely nothing

>>52205253
Well they had to fucking let someone other than Jimmy at least pretend they did some work on the game

I've seen Bones post once or twice in here, but I've never seen Claymore

>>52205276
Claymore posted in the early days.

Naw. They're the only two that realized they shouldn't drink the koolaid.>>52205276

>>52205316
>implying Bones can afford anything but Koolaid

>>52205289
What did Claymore even do?
Did he come up with skills or something?

Or did he just sit around til now to go set up some interviews?

>>52205345
Ask Jimmy that

>>52205345

Fuckboy number one detected. It's okay, I'm sure Jimmy-senpai will still notice you even when you're not talking about shit you know nothing about

>>52205345
It's not like it's only Jimmy's game

>>52205394
Shut up Claymore

maybe the SoS reddit will worship you

>>52205400

Shhh, let them dream. What would they do without their supreme leader?

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>>52205417

>>52205427
>hating jimmy
>in an sos thread

bold trolls these days

>>52205447

The truth will set you free.

>>52205400
>>52205427
You need to calm down.

Just go make your own game if you're going to be so butthurt and jealous that Claymore and Bones got some recognition for the game THEY made.

>>52205480
#literally the point I was trying to make.

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Jesus Christ people, we had a good interview, why would you spoil this for yourselves? Why does everything have to be kristallnacht with you guys, just chill out.
ffs stop tipping off Bones to my assassination attempts by sperging out

>>52205537
>letting giggle bones talk
>putting jiggle claymore on a camera with a shoehorn wired to a car battery for a mic
>good interview


At least the last half is picking up

I'll apologize when he's dead

>>52205417

Oh no, you've angered senpai >;

>>52205537
Don't worry, I still love you.
You don't have a webcam?

>>52205537
Explain the "End Rightly" maneuver. You said it existed in the interview but it does not.

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>>52205795
See >>52204225

We are getting art for each kind of weapon right in the final release? Cause my players arnt going to know what half these weapons are.

>>52205892
Only if you want the final book to be 1000 pages long.

>>52205852
I want jimmy to address it since he might've added it as a new maneuver.

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>>52205977
So many other moves that could get there own maneuvers before that.

>>52205903
Yes please? No I mean more like the small pics with the Chinese weapon homebrew.

>>52206038
The chinabrew's pictures, if I had bothered doing them all, still more than double the space that is taken by each stat block. With as many arms as SoS has a similar solution would take way too much space. It would feel really cluttered

>>52206136
The equipment cards are meant to have picturs on them.

>>52206144
The best solution.

>>52206136
>>52206144
Yeah that would solve the problem pretty well I guess.

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Them Iconic males just keep getting snatched up and then release. Back to 2 available.

>>52195501
Need it to make you feel heated?

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>>52206353
Jimmy should just add three more female iconics and watch the money [Greater Teleport] in

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>>52207678
SoS is surly the most progressive of rpgs

Was wondering if this only helps agains shooting since defense RS is not a thing in the melee right?
>Active Defense — You spend the Phase ducking and dodging enemy attacks. Roll an ADR Test
and add BS to your Defense RS

>>52208562
Or does it get added to your combat pool if you use a defensive maneuver.

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>>52207796
I think I'm at the point where I don't even know what qualifies as progressive anymore
I saw SJWs screaming about NieR being overly sexualized and objectified (ignoring the fact that 2B is a literal object), but then they turn around and say stuff about sexual liberation...

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>>52208650
Its easy to tell the difference, let me explain.
>does it make you hard? then its oversexualized
>anything else is progressive.
Pic related.

>>52208650
>a character very human like in every way
>hurrduurr is robot is object I can do whatever I want

>>52208562
>>52208575
It's exclusively against ranged attacks.

>>52208650
Lore related question, folks. Who has the biggest tits in the Tattered Realms?

>>52208881
Whatever it is that's at the bottom of the hole in Algenburg. You won't like it.

>>52208769
Dam Gizka why do you have to be so over-sexualized

>>52209007
Gizka is Dacian sex machine

>>52209007
>>52209028
I really do hope the devs desexualize the characters before the final release, if they stay as is the SJWs will have a fit.

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>>52205088
>>52205152

You can always just use regular old Blind Toss, it's still TN 5.

Or Pommels are a Rng 5 Tn 7 -1b Shock 2 Throwing Weapon, and maybe your sword now suffers -1 Dtn.

>>52208827
I guess you're right.
Humans are just objects too, to say otherwise is pretty stupid. They DO exist in the physical world, after all.

>>52209766
>They DO exist in the physical world
Most of the characters don't exist in physical world

>the opaque team hard at work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa2irrYK09w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsIG_PTZHMI&t=0s

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?518257-Song-of-Swords-Game-where-you-can-choose-what-part-of-your-opponent-to-attack!
Is this the most pathetic shill thread ever?

>>52205400
It's kind of fucking like that. Not just his company, he's got a CEO and a art guy too, but he does a hell of a lot of the design work.

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>>52209959
>Game-where-you-can-choose-what-part-of-your-opponent-to-attack

>Jimmy says the game is built around "the strategic phase"
>literally nothing about this in the book

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>>52210222
What have I done?
What dark thoughts have I spawned?
Was is all worth it?

>>52210351
It's coming early 2025!

>>52209838
They exist in the physical world as presented in-setting.

>>52210351
>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2006613790/song-of-swords-tabletop-roleplaying-game
>Thought about backing.
>Terrible descriptions for everything.
>$49 american for one soft cover book.
meh

>Jimmy has no video in the interview
>needs to stop talking, presumably to take cover and hide, when there's someone driving by

>>52210565
Why are you here then at all?

>>52210652
The game is cool but the kickstarter looks shitty and overpriced?

>>52210565
Actually the softcover is $39 it's only $49 if you want the .pdfs for everything else which seems pretty good for $10

>>52210565
To be fair it's in color and like 360 pages

>>52210676
>>52210793
Consider that SR3 cost $46 when adjusted for inflation.

>>52210565
It's a fucking massive color book. I also don't like it but that's apparently what this shit costs these days.

>>52205537
>we had a good interview
You had at best a passable interview, on a channel with less than 10k subs.

>>52210793
>Actually the softcover is $39
Shipping is 10 bucks.
That's still pretty exorbitant for a single softcover book.

>>52210853
>The Core Rulebook will be at least 200 pages!
That's not massive. Pretty standard actually.

>>52210906
>at least
>in a 300% funded project

>>52210874
Where do you live out of curiosity?

>>52210829
>>52210853
>>52210793
>>52210676
>>52210565
Here's what you do. Pledge $1 then take one of the following:

>$15 Printed Core Rulebook (black & white, softcover, 6x9)
>$39 Printed Core Rulebook (color, softcover, 8.5x11)
>$59 Printed Core Rulebook (color, hardcover, 8.5x11)

And the default "Knight" tier which includes a physical copy, your name in the book and PDF is $39 USD, not $49.

>>52210943
>$10 shipping.

>>52210938
Canada.
And for the price of SoS I could get 2 board games or an entire set of brand new books.

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>>52211023
>Canada.
I see...

>>52211173
Yea, and that's 60 maples bucks.
For 1 book.
Board games are around 30.
Books are much less.

Do you see.

>>52211242
There's gotta be some sort of inflation thing going on here, because the prices are more or less average in the US. Probably a bit high because of economy of scale.

>>52211242
>Do you see.

No I was shockingly unfamiliar with Canadian exchange rates prior to this conversation I was just hoping to figure out why you were under the impression that the shipping was $10.

I normally have to think in pounds actually and for a nice board game I usually expect to drop £30 - 40.

>>52211371
Same here in South Africa good board games cost about $50+ and the same with rpg books.

>>52211409
Yeah $30 Canada looks to be £18.22 which I would expect to get me something like the 2000th edition of Battleships or Monopoly not anything I'd use my time on.

>>52211242
>two USD shipping is ten moose
Y'all canucks need to get your economy sorted.

>>52211409
>>52211438
Being close to burgerland does have its advantages.

Compared to your countries games are cheap here. My store has must have a few hundred games that are that price.
The Grizzled is $27 for example.

>>52211635
I live in burgerland and i dont think ive gotten a roleplaying game for less than 50. Degenesis set me back almost 300 to get it shipped from germany though i admit to spending an extra 15 for same week delivery

>>52210874
Pretty much in line with other games. Even pretty slim books are in the 30-50 range. It's one of the problems of Print on Demand.

You can always get the PDF and have your local shady print shop make it a softcover for you.

>>52210360
What have you done? You are the mother of a meme to strong for this system, it need to be free! You need to set it free!

Question: Is there anything in the Kickstarter PDF worth porting to the LaTeXified version? If so, please note the specific things and I'll try to work on it eventually (probably) maybe

I'm pretty sure no one wants to use the Etherpad for some reason, so the thread's as good a place as any to note it down.

I'm thinking stuff like fluff for races or whatever might be more updated in the KS PDF, but checking the whole thing will take more time than I have

>>52211970
The PCP chart seems to actually be different, and not just old. Attributes are back to being 1 level for 1 point with each attribute starting at 0, and money is completely different.

>>52212017
We're not sure if those are intentional long term changes or some side project that accidentally got stuck in.

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I hope they make tales from the tattered realms eventually, even though it probably won't make it for the kickstarter. It would be the best supplement you could have.

>>52211970
You left out unarmed damage rules.
1.9.9 listed it as avb+4

Though the tournament made it avb unless the Armor is hard, then it's avb+4

Use whatever you consider better

>>52213033
Oh god damn it, Jimmy removed that bit from the Updated Weapons Chapter and so when I removed the old weapons chapter in favor of the new, it got removed

I'll add it as part of the Hard quality (since it'd be dumb if wearing a scarf gave you +5 AVB vs. fists) at some point, written it down in the Etherpad

>>52211970
>Question: Is there anything in the Kickstarter PDF worth porting to the LaTeXified version?
No, nothing. v1.2 is an incredibly old version that Jimmy apparently hasn't touched, so it's like the Australian took this and hid in a closet for 2 years and came out with some bizarre alternate SoS

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>311 backers
Perfect

>>52213448
I don't get the significance.

>>52213448
Tell me when it's 1488 backers.

>>52213557
It's a pretty sweet band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYBIRHi5-o8

>>52214138
The whitest band alive

>>52214152
They aren't Limp Bizkit.

>>52214264
They aren't Bread.

>>52214494
They aren't JD* and the Straight Shot


James Dolan, owner of the New York Knicks

>>52214560
They aren't the whitest boy alive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAWurnyKZUM

>>52215402
They aren't the Dave Matthews Band, which manages to be both incredibly diverse and incredibly white.

>>52214138
>>52214152
>>52214264
>>52214494
>>52214560
>>52215402
>>52216135
You are like little babies.

Watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV8N44HzfBQ

>>52216270
That's a joke band, right? I'm going to go back to my Tom Waits playlist now.

Remember the last time you played D&D? You went into a dungeon and you killed a bunch of monsters, and your thief tackled some traps and then unlocked some chests and you got some loot.

But wait. Who locked those chests? Have you ever, in all your time playing games, found one bugbear or orc with a key ring for all of the randomly placed chests full of +1 swords that they could be using to fight you instead of keeping locked away?

Where are the keys. Seriously. I just sat down with two guys and baffled over this for ten minutes and, aside from plot-centric treasures in chests, mundane keys almost never come up. This is super retarded to me.

>>52216743
I always consider the owner, even if theyre dead an gone, to each chunk of loot.
I can't say I've ever found the keys to the dungeon in another DM's game.

>>52216743
Are you working on the adventure path already?

>>52216856
Theyve been sitting on the idea for it for a couple years, IIRC

>>52216743
Of course the bugbears can't get in the chests, they're neither smart nor strong enough to open them. The chests are all left by the people who made the dungeons, ancient Izagoni/Egyptian/Elven colonists/soldiers/magicians etc.

If it's a more modern dungeon than I don't fucking know.

>>52216894
>Bugbear characters possess the following racial traits.
> +4 Strength, +2 Dexterity, +2 Constitution, -2 Charisma.

>>52216872
Figures. Everything they do takes years.

>>52216894
That would explain why the bugbears are never using that +1 sword against you as you murder them and pillage their holdings

>>52216743
>Exanima
>two or three locked things in first level
>keys for them are hidden way the fuck in the middle of nowhere on that level
>no indication of which key goes to which lock

>begin trying to search every latrine after realizing keys might be anywhere
>never able to open a container menu on a latrine
>stop searching latrines since they're always empty
>UNTIL STAGE FIVE WHEN A QUEST CRITICAL ITEM IS HIDDEN IN A LATRINE

>>52217398
Is that game any good yet? I tried it when it was new, and at that time it was shit, but of course it was also so early in development that you'd expect as much.

>>52217096
Get better chests. :^)

>>52217425
No. It's better in many ways and worse in a few than when you last played it. Arena doesn't take nearly as long to get money as it used to, but it still has the stupid permadeath system where if your first character dies the whole account is deleted. (Why can't another character you've made take over? There's no point to that permadeath.) The campaign hasn't been expanded beyond stage 5. Internal coding is better, vertical attacks are much faster than they were before. There's more color choices for armor available in Arena - but still no way to color your own armor how you want it to look or get any of the cool patterns you see some Practice enemies have. (Again, why? Disinterested game designers probably). And for some reason they locked away the different characters for campaign mode. Now you must start as unknown and unlock the other three, instead of being able to pick any of the four from the get go. This change made the game worse; those characters were de facto difficulty settings, but now those options are gone.

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Naval rules when?

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>>52217452
A flat chest?

>>52218266
>flat chest
Yes, hidden chests recessed into walls and floors might work, but the type of chest you pictured probably wouldn't survive the thousand+ years that the dungeons been around for.

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>>52218362
Something like this?

>>52211970
Actually the Kickstarter PDF is outdated and was a version before 1.9.9

Is anyone still amused by seeing stupid people be stupid?

>>>/diy/1144843

>>52219713
The only time I've heard of paper armor in Japan isn't a citable source, but was someone waxing on about how they tried to make a cheap bulletproof breastplate by gluing a shitton of paper and bamboo layers together.

The kind of armor he posted a picture of is metal. There's no way to argue against it being metal.

>>52219713
>>52219808
How stupid. Everyone knows samurai armor was primarily wood, with metal being reserved for the richest men, those being the least likely to actually fight (hence the surviving examples of metal armor).

>>52219713
Only if said stupidity ends up being very, very painful for them. And not in the Jacklass "look at me doing something that'll hurt haha" desperate attention whore way, but in the "I though this was a good idea but now I have an alligator turtle clamped to my groin" way.

>Age of Gunpowder TTRPGs would be incredibly boring though, unless you somehow find a way to give everyone magic or superpowers without trivializing gunpowder weapons.

>>/tg/52213234

>>52220353
get a load of this guy

>>52220353
You mean >>52213234

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Hey Jimmy, you've surely told Galt that his baby got 200% funded

>>52220412
>his baby got 250% funded
FTFY

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>>52219894

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>>52220412
>that image

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>>52220957
>not "hello operator, I know magic isn't real"

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This thread got real gay real fast

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>>52221515
Problem, faggot?

>>52221515
Anon I am shocked are we not the most progressive of generals.

>>52219808
Paper armor apparently existed in China at some point and was supposedly pretty effective, but it was also heavy as fuck.

>>52221572
NO YOU!

is there a tournament recap?

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Was wondering what parts of the world you anons like the most. For me it has to be Kaselreich at the moment the bleakness of the place with the supernatural stuff feeling all folksloreish is great even though my players have not faced any of them they get to hear dark rumors and get worried when they find strange stuff in the wilds.

>>52221736
It was pretty much just slightly less hoboish then last time.

>>52222696
The simmering cold war and internal political turmoil of the slivers is really neat.

>>52218254
2021

>>52220383
>>52220353
Fortunately that guy was shouted down rather quickly. Good image dump in that thread.

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>>52221158

>>52222696
D A C E

>>52222696
The Reich is the place I'd like to run in the most I think. Sad Germans, darkness, monsters. Great combo.

>>52220412
Galt still in Mexico
Won't find out there was a kickstarter until it's over
Will his friendship with the boys at Opaque survive?

>>52224176
That reminded me of MGR for some reason

>>52222696
Personally I love the Boccy Raves. I've always the scenes of music, dance and eating in Asterix and Obelix.

>>52224955
I've always loved*

>>52224176
Galt is gonna come back and tell us how he could have made this whole thing go better.

I mean look at Jimmy. The weak man got sick in the middle of it. How dare he.

>>52222696
I have a really strange hard-on for Galli. I love the ninety nine kings war, and the zells taking the place of the Occitans and Cathars. There's also that bit about the bit about the region that no one can remember that I like. I'm really excited for any new info on the country in the future.

What the hell is up with the shipping being 25 dollars almost everywhere in Europe except random spots of 1-3 dollars?

Also Brazil alone at 31, lmao

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>>52225241
I must say the setting is amazing close enough to relate to history but colorful enough to be interesting.

>>52225326
I think there's something screwy with the KS shipping numbers.

>>52225326
Didn't they say shipping is just a flat ten for everywhere?

>>52225547
Not that I can see, it only mentions ten extra per add-on.

>>52225429
Yeah, it's one of my favorite settings.

Conq train TOOT TOOT

>>52225429
That art reminded me: What kind of art are you all wishing to see in the book? What styles of clothing are you wishing to see the Vosca /fa/ sport?

I personally love any big wrapping with colors, like the gold and black wrapping on that guys head.

Also lots of layers, with interesting patterns and shapes. Sikh warriors, Japanese 20 times layered kimono, Old middle east style artistic clothes passed down in families for generations....

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>>52225823
I just want lots of ruthlessly stylish crests.

>>52225823

As gloriously impractical as possible.

>>52226011
Genosus has this whole "WORK IS YOUR LIFE, AND LIFE AFTER DEATH IS MORE WORK!" right? That would imply there are thousands upon thousands of absolute master clothiers, armorsmiths and other such people who do intricate, small detail work on everything they do. I want to see that.

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>>52226086
Dumping armor.

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I TOO MUCH DETAIL! or not enough?

>>52226086
Yeah, Genosus is all about that ziggurat in the afterlife. I know it's often been mentioned that Genosians are fond of grandiose works of architecture, and of a fondness for masonry and carpentry. I can easily imagine any trade is held in the highest regard. I know the clothier's, armor smith's, and cobbler's guilds are super huge and very good at their respective crafts in the Krajina.

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>>52226314
Not enough. Everything could be filled with artistic calligraphy of the holy scriptures.

Have you seen old style arabic calligraphy? Something like that.

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>>52226701
Thats pretty badass calligraphy.

>>52226781
There's this tradition of islamic calligraphy from the early days of caliphates that has been living in master-student tradition to this day. Some graffiti dude got interested in in it, and wanted to learn from a master.

It went something like this:

The master deems you trainable, and then starts teaching.

He sits you down next to him, and then he shows you how to write some sentence that has been the first thing to learn trough out the tradition. It was something like "The god is great" or such, that has the all the basic rules of basic calligraphy. He shows it to you one time, gives you the paper, and tells you to do it yourself.

You came back in a week or two, with your best piece of calligraphy of the sentence.

He shows what you fucked up, and tells you to come back next week with your best piece.

This continues on, you come to him with your best piece of the same fucking sentence, he tells you what you fucked up and tells you to come back in a week with a new piece.

The graffiti dude says this took him two years before his master told him his sentence is good enough and it's time to start the actual training.

Actual training starts, this includes everything from making your own tools, to making your own ink, making your own paper and even how to marble paper correctly. Also all the actual calligraphy training.

At some point, your master asks you to do your "masterwork". It's a piece made by you, with your tools, your paper, your marbling, your sentence and style. If he approves of it, he himself will sign. By signing it he is basically saying "I deem this guy a master of the craft, trained by me." and the calligraphy piece is then literally the students masterwork and graduation paper.

After the masterwork is approved, the student can take on his or her own students.

The graffiti guy said that he had been studying for something like 5 years after the first sentence got approved, and he hasn't done his masterwork yet.

>>52226781
It's a sneaky way around Islam's prohibition against iconography.

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>>52227101
""This is the first lesson. Rab Yassir. It reads "Lord make it easy, don't make it difficult, Lord make it end well." The bottom line is the first half of the alphabet.

This was my teacher's first lesson when he learned calligraphy from his teacher Hasan Celebi, and Hasan Hoca's first lesson when he learned from Hamid Aytac, and that goes back at least 500 years. It is the gateway to calligraphy.

How it works is like this. Your teacher writes it for you as you watch on the first day. He cuts you a pen from a reed and prepares an inkwell and gives you some paper to use. You come back in a week with your attempt to copy it.

It will be shit. You don't have any idea what you're doing yet. You're being taught to see mistakes in your work through refinement of a single verse hundreds of times. You fill sheets with practice and when you think you've got it, you do it on nice paper and bring it to your teacher. He fails you. Write it again. This goes on for months or even years, writing the same verse and trying to pass.

It's like if you wanted to learn the violin, and so your teacher gave you a violin and a recording of a moderately complex phrase from Mozart, and told you to play it by ear. No instruction- you figure out how to hold the thing and make it play the way it should. You learn your tools by fucking up, figuring out how and why you fucked up and how to make it better.

It trains your eyes as much as your hand. Any shmuck can tell good calligraphy from bad. To tell good from great, and ultimately great from truly sublime is a skill that has to be learned and developed.

I like sushi a lot, but what I perceive when I eat sushi and what Jiro perceives are different things. He has trained his palette to detect tiny, infinitesimal subtleties in his craft. Thats what's going on here.

We are being taught to see those tiny subtleties in work that allows us to progress with our own work.

It took me 2 years to pass.""

It broke 31k!

What kind of income would you give for soldiers of various rank/experience?

How much $$$ worth of equipment?

>>52203913
The mute from Shouju?

https://www.reddit.com/r/rpg/comments/600dxx/kickstarter_reminder_song_of_swords_tabletop/?st=j0ec87qs&sh=9dc9b544

>>52227891
I don't have the doc right now, but there's a historical ledger that gave the price for such things. If I recall correctly, you would pay a normal mercenary soldier like 1 silver piece a day (or a week, I don't remember). I'm sure someone has it saved.
If not, you could check Riddle of Steel, it had a pretty extensive list of things you could buy using the same currency as SoS.

>>52227827
Oh shit mang, time to up my pledge for the monster deck

>>52225823
like warhammer. really ugly people wearing bright checker patterns and with multi color plumes

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>>52229121

>>52228886
What about equipment/how much for it?

https://www.reddit.com/r/rpg/comments/600dxx/kickstarter_reminder_song_of_swords_tabletop/

There's a reddit thread

>>52229208
I remember the ledger listed a price for a common man's sword, and it was actually rather cheap. Give me a moment and I'll try to look for it.

>>52229380
>>52229208
I found it. http://faculty.goucher.edu/eng240/medieval_prices.html

Funny story, my girlfriend graduated from Goucher college.