Why didn't Circe just use polymorph on herself to turn into

Why did Paris settle for Helen when gaining favor of Aphrodite? Why didn't he demand some time with Aphrodite? The gods were sluts, you know she would have hopped on his dick for that golden apple.

>>52072034
She was too busy fucking him
>>52072047
She would have killed him for his presumption, the gods were pretty and schizophrenic

>tfw the entire reason and cause of Illiad and the Odyssey is one man's monstergirl fetish

Did Zeus fuck Europa as a bull or as a man? The tale was never really clear about that, as far as I remember.

>>52072047

Helen was hotter than all the goddesses.

>>52072079

Well he fucked up pretty well considering there's no monstergirls in it anywhere now didn't he? Unless you count the queen of the Laistrygones, I guess.

>>52072034

>instead of breaking her wand to break her spell, Odysseus uses it on Circe and turns her into a monstergirl

How would the myth change after that?

>>52072137
In Greek myths it doesn't really matter

>>52072137

Doesn't matter, the dicking was divine either way and both way

>>52072137
He takes her away to Kreta, where he turns back and then the fucking commences.

>>52072369

He missed an opportunity to turn her into a cow instead.

>polymorph

Literally didn't exist in classic myth. This isn't fucking D&D you fucking idiot

>>52072034
Because the gods didn't allow Odysseus to get killed.

>>52072646
Then explain how the rest of his human crew ended up as pigs?

>>52072047
>Why didn't he demand some time with Aphrodite?
He isn't Cratos, do doesn't want to mess with Ares

>>52072676
Because she knew specifically how to turn a man into a pig? That is kind of her whole gist, fucking over men and making women the dominating sex.

>>52072646

Circe is sort of a bad example for 'Polymorph doesn't exist' considering her modus operandi.

>>52072034
She tried, but he just declared "αυτό είναι φετίχ μου"

>>52072047
Because fucking Aphrodite wouldn't have given Troy a claim on Sparta.

>>52072698
Not just pigs. Her whole island was full of myriad animals that used to be men.

>>52072704
>>52072698
>>52072676

It wasn't any form of generic magic, though. She used herbs and a wand to turn people into animals, but they were just turned into harmless cattle. No sign that she could turn someone into a dragon or something, or that she had any inherent magical powers.

>>52072847
She had a staff/wand though that she used to actully invoke the transformation.

Why did Best Dad make Icarus get on the glider?

>>52072889
Because he assumed his son wasn't a twat.

>>52072137
>Did Zeus fuck Europa as a bull or as a man?

Yes.

>>52072787

There's at least one novel where Circe tempts him with taking animal forms together and fucking.

>>52072864

But was the power in her or in the wand?

>>52072034
Because being transformed into something other than you were was either a blessing or a curse. It was NEVER a self-empowerment tool, because the human body was sacred to the Greeks. Only the gods themselves could transform their own bodies as well, and while Circe was a demigoddess, she was not a god.

>>52072847
Wrong. she turned the greedy ruler of a country into Charybidis, and she turned the nymph Scylla into the horrifying monster Scylla out of jealousy. The important thing is that she transformed others, never herself. Only the gods could transform themselves.

>>52073167

Wasn't Charybdis a female monster?

>>52073222
Yes, so was the ruler of the foreign country.

Polymorph Self used to be considered a different spell.

>>52072034
She was too scared sonething goes wrong on polymorphing and wouldnt be able to turn back or correct her wrong.

>>52073155
>>52073167

Bullshit. Shapeshift (self) is a prerequisite for Shapeshift Others. God, learn your spell chart already.

>>52073643
She bypassed the prerequisite by beimg the daughter of the goddess of magic, anon. Bloodline heritage focus abilities can trump spell prerequisites.

>>52073592

>I AM CIRCE, DAUGHTER OF THE GODS AND MISTRESS OF MAGIC
>c-could you please help me get that wand?
>I hate not having opposable thumbs

>>52072803
Being dead didn't either.

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>>52072034
Why didn't Circe just use polymorph on Odysseus to turn him into a little boy and grope his ass?

>>52072646
>what is jokes

>>52073903
>a pairing in which nobody is manly
It's not for the greeks patrician taste.

>>52073903

Because Odysseus wasn't a little boy in deeds and heart. Circe transformed men into a form that reflected their selves. Odysseus's men acted like pigs so they became pigs. presumably the bears and lions they saw on her island had been fierce, savage men.

Actually makes me wonder what Circe would have turned into if her magic HAD been turned against her. Probably some extremely ostentatious bird that struts a lot.

>>52073694
Fucking Clerical Magic and it's bullshit no-prerequisite rule.

>>52074005
Except aren't most birds that strut like that male?

>>52073903

Why didn't Circe just use polymorph on HERSELF to turn into a little boy? I'm sure that would have made Odysseus like her more.

>>52073167
I never heard versions of the Scylla or Charybidis myths where Circe did it, I always remember it being one of the gods.

>>52072326
>Odysseus steals the wand
>The Odyssey just becomes one giant power trip
I don't know, i feel like it would be really boring unless it was your fetish

>>52074081
I mean, they live together and fuck for quite a while, I don't think she needs to make it weird.

>>52074139

>Odysseus steals the wand
>immediately uses it to turn himself into Circe
>nobody is the wiser

>>52073155
>>52073167
I dunno, daughter of a titan and a nymph. She's pretty much a god. Just not an Olympian.

>>52074108
>A similar story is found in Hyginus, according to whom Scylla was loved by Glaucus, but Glaucus himself was also loved by the sorceress Circe. While Scylla was bathing in the sea, the jealous Circe poured a potion into the sea water which caused Scylla to transform into a monster with four eyes and six long necks equipped with grisly heads, each of which contained three rows of sharp teeth. Her body consisted of 12 tentacle-like legs and a cat's tail, while four to six dog-heads ringed her waist. In this form, she attacked the ships of passing sailors, seizing one of the crew with each of her heads. (The Aenid)

>According to Ovid,[16] the fisherman-turned-sea-god Glaucus fell in love with the beautiful Scylla, but she was repulsed by his fishy tail and fled onto the land where he could not follow. When he went to Circe to ask for a love potion to win her, the sorceress herself fell in love with him. Meeting with no success, she prepared a vial of poison and poured it in the sea-pool where her rival bathed, turning her into a thing of terror even to herself. (Ovid)

The Scylla reference is one of those 'possible myths' mentioned in William Smith's Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology. His retellings and translations tend to be suspect.

>>52072326
>Odysseus lives on the island and just turns Circe into whatever monstergirl he's in the mood for

>>52074239

That must have sucked for Scylla.

>>52072847
>No sign that she could turn someone into a dragon or something, or that she had any inherent magical powers.

She's a goddess nigga.

Also, she transformed two people into monsters - Scylla and Charybdis

>>52074239
so like, was her mind fucked with too? or does she just eat people because she's upset?

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>>52074528
>does she just eat people because she's upset?

>>52074528

If you were permanently transformed from a super-hot chick into a giant multi-headed reptile monster, wouldn't you be really really upset too?

>>52074239

I can't even find a reference to Charybdis being transformed by Circe. There's one about her being a daughter of Poseidon that got cursed by Zeus, though.

>>52074594
Sorry, the Charybidis story is in William Smith's Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology. His retellings and translations tend to be suspect; he was big on the cultural appropriateions the Greeks and Romans did, and had a thing for the triple goddess, often creating connections betwene goddesses that made very little sense (the Persephone myth, for instance, he associated Hecate with the virgin Goddess figure, Persephone for the nymph-marriagable, and Ceres as the Crone, completely misaligningb their typical faiths).

He was desperate to try and fit things into the still completely unknown mystery cults of Ceres and Dionysus..

>>52074677

So basically there's no actual myth about Charybdis being a vain mortal queen who got cursed?

Keep your degenerate fucking fetishes to yourself and out of classical myth

>>52074798
Yeah, their cup already runneth over.

Why didn't Circe just turn Odysseus and his men into girls?

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>>52074798
>classical myth
>not being full of degenerate fetishes

>>52075101
Because she was being ironic.

"Oh look your men are acting like pigs so they all turned into pigs how funny."

Gods are pretty heavy handed with their messages.

>>52072691
Kratos*
And ares doesn't give a fuck about aphrodite, her husband is hephaestus

>>52075273
Yeah, but Ares is banging her anyway.

>>52074239
>while four to six dog-heads ringed her waist.
Well which was it four, or six? Did the amound change on a day to day basis?

>>52075306
Yes. They ate each other and then regenerated.

>>52075303
I'm sure everyone bangs her, but only her husband would actually care about her.

>>52075145
Subtle for them is raping you as a swan

>>52075398
>you may nut on her face and she callso you daddy but Im cuddling with her so whos the real winner?

>>52075593
Hephaestus didn't take it that well.

He tied them in an invisible net, and displayed their adultery for all to laugh at. They were only let out because Poseidon convinced Ares to pay the fine for adultery, and Hephaestus got his bride price back from Zeus, effectively divorcing Aphrodite.

>>52075398
You obviously haven't heard about him trapping Aphrodite and Apollo in a net together when she was cheating on him.

>Though married to Hephaestus, Aphrodite had an affair with Ares, the god of war. Eventually, Hephaestus discovered Aphrodite’s promiscuity through Helios, the all-seeing Sun, and planned a trap during one of their trysts. While Aphrodite and Ares lay together in bed, Hephaestus ensnared them in an unbreakable chain-link net so small as to be invisible and dragged them to Mount Olympus to shame them in front of the other gods for retribution.

>However, the gods laughed at the sight of these naked lovers, and Poseidon persuaded Hephaestus to free them in return for a guarantee that Ares would pay the adulterer's fine. Hephaestus states in The Odyssey that he would return Aphrodite to her father and demand back his bride price.

>>52074005
this anon knows. Pay attention.

she doesn't transform herself you fucking retard

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>>52074798
> Keep your degenerate fucking fetishes to yourself and out of classical myth
pfffft
Zeus pls

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>>52072034
The better question is: Why is Aphrodite such a fucking cheating whore?

>>52077004
source?

>>52077048
LITERALLY IN THE FUCKING PICTURE, HOLY SHIT

>>52076917
>Tartarus
>No Border denotes God or Mortal
>has child with Gaia.
I thought that was a place? (where all the titans got locked up)

Please explain.

>>52077059
Not all of us are able to read moonrunes

>>52077059
>not expecting the iq to drop when porn is posted

>>52077085
LITERALLY THERE IN ENGLISH

>>52077098
All I see is 'goddess hlic(?) NTR show'

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>>52077114
Here's what I get

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>>52077140
Oh thank you then

>>52077070

Can be both for the greeks - see Plato's Ideas.

Gaia for example is both the Earth, and mother earth. You walk on her, but she can also totally fuck and have kids. Tartarus is a deep dark realm where the Titans were banished, but is also a god.

>>52077070
Yes he was a place.

The first generation of deities, the protogenoi, were both gods and more conceptual things.

Gaia was both the Earth Mother, and the Earth itself. Ouranous was the Sky Father and the Heavens.
And Tartarus was both the god of the most deep place, and the pit itself.

>>52077158
>>52077192
What defines a titan exactly? If their parents were Gods, and their children were gods
Hyperion in a whole line of titans and monsters is the only God among siblings.

>>52077233
>>52076917
>Also Atlas NOT a titan?
Typo? Or Mind Blown?

>>52077233
It's a difficult line. Mythologies vary, so you'll get different parentage and such, but basically:

The Titans were the second generation of Greek gods, after the Protogenoi. They ruled during the Golden Age, and generally things were pretty good.

It's just that the whole thing was kind of a mess as well, due to how they got into power. (Castration, betrayal, and curses)

Fun fact: Technically Aphrodite would be more properly counted among the ranks of the Titans, since she was spawned from Ouranous' balls after he was castrated.

Maybe Circe DID use her magic on herself? Maybe she wasn't actually a hot goddess? Ever think about that?

fucking shitty Genzoman

>>52072034
... and she would achieve what with that?
The entire idea was to seduce him. Since Greeks were paranoid about women gaining an edge over them due to sexual favour, it fits the culture even further.

I mean just recall EVERY. Single. Fucking. Woman in Odyssey that is not Penelope or Odyss mother.

>>52079508

yeah, monstergirls were as fuckig far from greek fetishes as you could get

>>52074239
Man, Circe is one mean bitch.

>>52081123

greek mythology is mean girls dot jpg

>>52081498
>Get in loser, we're going on an odyssey

>>52082679
It's the Illiad, but everyone's actually a High School Girl from two rival cliques, all started when Paris stole another girl's boyfriend.

>>52082679

You joke, but all the goddesses were like this

>>52082731

Everyone's gender-flipped for it

>>52082842
Are the Amazons the football team that the Trojans call in to help?

>>52082902

Yes. Agamemmnon is a MILF

>>52082961
>The Greeks eventually sneak into the big party the Trojans are throwing by dressing up as strippers, as part of a cunning stunt by Odysseus.
>This went down in history as the Trojan Whores.

>>52083009

Male strippers?