>Matt Ward returns to 40k >Roboute Guilliman practically

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>>52066328
I don't have anything productive to contribute.

>>52066328
I know like almost nothing about 40k. Tell me about how this rowboat guy isn't dead anymore and why that is slightly important.

>>52067222
Imagine there were 20 Jesuses, now imagine half of those fucked off to worship the devil and the other half were either dead or disappeared.

Now imagine one of those came back. That's about it.

>>52066328
Well in all fairness, the stuff is planned out years in advance so Matt could not have decided on this.....

By the way, I'm reserving judgment primarily cause it is not over. There is even more stuff appearing that makes it seem like Roboute gonna go pout out like Horus did.

So the dude could actually get screwed over in-universe hard.

>>52066328
Our payers have been answered

>>52067468
This, but also the one that came back specialized in managing empires.

TIME TRAVELLING ULTRAMARINES TO THE RESCUE!
Gathering Storm is dumb

>>52067667
I just wanna know what Cypher is going to do with the Lion's sword

>>52067222
he was put on life support then they made it so he can move while on life support after ten thousand years because one mechancus guy wasn't crazy enough to try that earlier

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>>52067222
>rowboat

>>52066328

why there was never a petition or at least a plead to GW to just fucking get rid of that fuck and never hire him again

ward is one of the worst thing that happened to this setting

>>52067856
I too browse 1d4chan.

>>52067890

ive been there im not gonna lie

but don't beat around the bush and try to strawman this

Ward is a horrible writer and GW isn't know for good decision making

also even if, 1d4 is mostly based around /tg/ memes anyway you poor newfag, ive seen people hate this shithead here even before 1d4 was a thing

>>52067930
It's been years since Matt Ward happened.
Why are you still in anyway involved with the hobby if you think it's just a burning shit heap? Sell me your models instead, I'll give you 50%rrp.

>>52067986

>certain specific elements of your hobby ain't just right
>disallowed to have opinion about it and critique, just give up on it entirely

nigga, you serious and retarded or you just high right now

>>52067986

also... he is BACK, so no its not
>been years
anymore brother.

didn't you notice the papa smurf waking up and 40k almost going AoS?

>>52068045
>GW isn't know for good decision making
You obviously have more problems than just Matt Ward.
And at what point did I say you couldn't have an opinion? I just want to know why you haven't quit if you think GW makes shitty decisions constantly?

>>52068069
And do you think things got better in the time he was gone? Honest answer.

>>52068106
>>52068122

Fair enough. I don't think GW makes shitty decision constantly and i never wanted to imply that.

>>52068122
Its not about if i think it was better or not after him. Honestly i think W40k is a bumpy ride, from beginning. Sometimes for better, sometimes for worse.

Post was about me thinking that Ward is one of these people who put W40 in the worse bucket all the time.

really glad I stopped playing 40k

>>52066328
Don't forget that the new sisters characters were immediately killed off in the process after existing for an entire 2 months.

>>52069669
wait...seriously?
fucking Ward.

>>52069669
what did she use her last rez on Gulliman?

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>>52069669
Bullshit, they revive easily, plus they appear on Battle of Luna here.

>>52070685
It was his new eldar waifu who brought him back.

>>52067667

TIME TRAVELLING ULTRAMARINES?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-MzNpMD1K8

>>52067833
Good taste doggos

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I'm sure Rawbutt Girlyman isn't going to be the only loyalist primarch returning. The Khan and Leman Russ are still fucking about in the warp, they'll probably show up near the end too.

>>52070932
I had a dream...
Girlyman is turning traitor and the Russ shows up to hunt him down.

How the fuck do you day his name? Roh-boot guy-ill-i-man?

>>52071200
Robot Girly-man

What exactly is the lore for him coming back? if he is horribly wounded and stuck in stasis on Ultramar then how did he suddenly pop back into life?

>>52070932
I want the Khan to take over because he's equally unknowable as the Emperor.

but also, Corax and Vulkan can come back easily. hell, with a little creative fuckery with the Void Dragon on Mars, Ferrus could too.

>>52066328
Roboute is the best Primarch to sort things out in the Imperium.

>>52071288
eldar sucked out the poison and chaos bs, cawl made him a life support (think dreadnought 2.0) suit,

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>>52071275
I was going for a serious answer...

>>52066328
>implying that any other loyal primarch could have done a better job
Not even blessed Sangüinius had an expanding galactic empire when the Emperor arrived, he's the man we needed and this is coming from an SW player.

>>52071479
Dorn had an expanding space empire when the Emperor found him.

>>52071402
Fine. Rowboat Girly-man.

>>52071200
Something like this:
/rɒbu:t gJləmn/

>>52071200
just read the letters and pronounce like that
or gill-i-man

We can't survive another era of Games Wardshop, he almost took the entire IP down with him last time.

>>52071747
>almost
Wut?

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Hello, 1d4chan. How are your dated memes and false information treating you? Just a reminder that the entire 40k community (yes, that includes /tg/, and even shit like Reddit) is laughing at you. Carry on now.

>>52066328

Can someone please spoil all the fluff for me?

>>52071200

Pronounce it like you would expect a Jamaican to pronounce those words, then drop the accent.

Raw-boot gully-mon.

>>52071200
you don't
english language was a mistake

>>52072582
>>52071200
Learn French, it's pathetically easy to pronounce.

dude I too browse 1d4 lmao

>>52072438
>and even shit like Reddit
But those fuckers actually treated 1d4 as the fucking bible.

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>>52072621
So did /tg/, about five years ago. But the community has moved on.

>>52071200
Robert William.

The way they seem to be doing it its not as bad as i thought it would be, so i'm pretty happy with the plot development.

Even if we don't have any Imperial Guard character and its all Space Marines with a bit of Sisters and sparkle of Eldar.

>>52072638
>community moved on
>still have Fantasy Skub vs Age of Skub shitposting

>>52067856
His lore writing sucks but thankfully lore other than the basics of each factionis the worst thing about 40k, HOWEVER he is actually really good at writing balanced codices. He could really balance out the game or bring some semblance of balance.

>>52071502
Dorn's empire wasn't as big as ultramar, not even the tau empire is as big as ultramar.

>>52071479
>>52071502
Dorn and Guilliman had expanding interplanetary empires when they were found, and Alpharius was flying around with a bunch of pirates. Did any of the other primarchs leave their homeworld?

>>52075709
I don't think so, probably Corax due the moon prison of oppression that the slavers had, but other aside from that I don't think so, what I found most weird is how the fuck did the Emperor got Intel about Russ, he went to Fenris when legends about the Wolf King reach him and unless Fenris had space ships it is just super weird.

>>52070750
>Magnus leads his Thousand Sons vs the Wolves and loses many
>Immediately comes back for Round 2, but instead of a small chapter, he goes after one of the largest chapters, Mars, Custodes, Sisters (of Silence), and the Orphans of the Storm

At this rate he best be renaming his Legion the Hundred Sons

>>52075870
The World Spirit of Fenris probably reached out and notified the Emperor. Or the Big E came to Fenris because it is a source of Clean Magic

So why DOES papa smurf have big E's sword? Shouldn't that be the tippity top of sacred relics and vehemently guarded by the custodes alongside the Emperor?

>>52076192
When someone dies they usually leave their stuff to next of kin.

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Finally the end of the wretched Imperium has arrive. It cannot collapse any sooner. Long live to Imperium Secundus. Long live Ultramar.

>>52076220
But he's not really DEAD.
Plus, for all we know he could have left everything in his will to his golden boys or an Eldar whore instead of papa smurf, a certain furry, Dorn, or Khan.
Lion legitimately looks like a better candidate for the huge fiery sword than Guilliman.

>>52076439
>Lion legitimately looks like a better candidate for the huge fiery sword than Guilliman.

You snooze, you lose.

>>52076439
The guy who let half of his force join Chaos, couldn't beat normal human in 1 vs 1 fight, or retake a planet from some chaos marines without wrecking it a better candidate.

Ok.

>>52076460
He really needs to wake his ass up already.

>>52076040
It's fucking what? I must have missed something

>>52076439

Can you imagine any of these guys running the Imperium? Could you imagine any of these behind a desk all day? The closest one is a strategist like the Lion, some who is likely to be a traitor.

>>52076616
Yeah, annoyingly Wrath of Magnus implies the Fenrisian deities are all real and provide actual magic and very little is made of this...and the Emperor apparently didn't bother to ever comment or think about the fact that there was just a bunch of actual good gods running around on Fenris. Could ahve just made them the Imperium's religion and turbo-charged them to be stronger than the Chaos Gods.

>>52076616
Wrath of Magnus

Summary is:
Wolves were right all along. Their Rune Priests never violated the Edict of Nikaea as they draw their power from Fenris, which is 100% Daemon-free power and NOT of the Warp.

>Yes Space Wolves got even more snowflaky

>>52076682
Will Guilliman be behind a desk all day? There is little to no mention of bureaucracy, Guilliman even shuts down a library and explicitly states that this will 'not be a time for learning or knowledge' and seems to pretty much just be a frontline warleader 24/7

>>52076711

On the contrary, he's well known to be an Empire-builder not mention writing his own book of war.

>>52067638
>the stuff is planned out years in advance
You are giving GW way too much credit.

>>52076696
Magnus should have killed those gods for shits n giggles.

>>52076772
Yeah but in the book he doesn't much. I mean you can say 'he should' but does he actually do it in the book?

>>52076850
Could he even? I mean the Fenrisian Gods seem stronger than the Ynnead considering what they can pull off.

>>52076696
>>52076683
Well that makes me feel a bit sick. Who fucking wrote that bollocks?

>>52067468
>20 jesuses
>implying Matt Ward won't Make Humanity Mary Sue again by making all the astartes primarch tier or just have all loyalisy humans become Draigo/Emperor clones in terms of power level.

Chaos is about to be relegated to 'target practice' tier.

>>52072638
nigger 1d4chan was written by what became /tg/ of course we used it, that doesn not mean it cannot turn into complete shit, since it's a wiki and anyone is free to change it into LOL MEEMSXD

What kind of autistic manchild gets riled up over stupid fucking memes in the first place?

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>>52066328
Well what's Big E gonna do? Get off his throne.

>>52076850
They literally battled chaos into submission and are one of the reasons the SW survived Magnus wrath, they also purged chaos corruption in the aftermath of the battle.

>>52072715
>HOWEVER he is actually really good at writing balanced codices. He could really balance out the game or bring some semblance of balance.
i don't remmber warhammer ever being even close to almost balanced, the nearest i can think to balance was 4th edition, but that's mostly because everything was streamlined and it wasn't close to balanced anyway.

What was his name again

>>52076192
He yoinked it as a symbol of office after the Heresy.

Blood Ravens confirmed Ultramarine successors after all.

>>52072601
Wait is his name supposed to be said with French pronunciation?

>>52071200
Just watched the vid on Warhammer TV and was a bit boggled.
Re-boot-ay, apparently.

>>52067468
and its best jesus that came back also

>>52071200
Franz Joseph

>>52071372
so he is basically darth vader without the bondage leather and breathing problems? sounds pretty shit for him but i guess a primarch wouldnt really care about any blights or conditions upon their body so long as they can continue fulfilling their duties.

>>52067822
>because one mechancus guy wasn't crazy enough to try that earlier


I mean, are YOU gonna be the guy who accidentally kills the Primarch of the Ultramarines if you fuck it up?

Really best to just let somebody else handle that one if you value your own life, honestly.

>>52083115
>have the skill to pull it off
>no faith in the emprah who will surely be guiding your hand during the operation
>some other fuckwit does the job and messes it up
>you could have prevented the fuckup by doing it yourself
You're screwed either way.

>>52071200
Rah-booty GullEman or Robert Paulson

>>52076040
t. Assmad Transexual Son who is mad that the Vlyka Fenyrka are better at both magic and war than him

>>52076893
good

>>52071402
Row-boat-a Goo-ill-i-man.

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>>52084128
Row-boat Gabagool-i-man

>>52076439

Emps is dead. We've been over this. His body has life signs because of the Throne, and there's a link to his spirit, but the spirit has left (it left during the Heresy) and the Throne is basically just a switch to yank the spirit back.

No one knows if it actually works, and the Emperor is, emphatically, not a god or in any way still moving and working on this plane of existence.

>>52084353
You mean besides handing out actual, come back from the dead infinite times Living Sainthoods? Celestine can die and revive, even bring others back from the dead, and totally believes in the Emperor's divinity.

>>52076596
Girly man got rekt by kor faggot 1v1 lmao.

>>52083653
>vlyka fenyrka
People who actually say this are literally the biggest faggots ever

>>52084390
>You mean besides handing out actual, come back from the dead infinite times Living Sainthoods? Celestine can die and revive, even bring others back from the dead, and totally believes in the Emperor's divinity.

Death might not stop the Emperor, since he is part Perpetual at least.

It could actually be a good thing, if his spirit is busy getting shit done. And who knows if Perpetuals reincarnate the same. Like what if the Emperor's dead body is still powerful enough to act as a beacon for the Astronomicon.

>>52075992
Did he ever fix that souless box problem the sons have?

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>>52084552
>Kor Phaeron stuns Guiliman via warp bullshit
>tries to corrupt him
>gets his heart ripped out of his body instead
>lmao, girlyman got rekt xDDDD

>>52080962
>sounds pretty shit for him
Nah he is literally strongest primarch now, whu supported by everyone, eldars, all first founding chapters except Dark Angels, all Imperium.

>>52084613
So Roboute Gulliman is a faggot? Saying "space wolf" is literally fedora tier

>>52066328
>primarch returns
>new emperor
Literally any of the primarchs would be given this if they returned (unless they were a demon-primarch). Of course, some would shirk these responsibilities, but don't doubt that they would nonetheless have the title.

>>52076616
>>52076683
>>52076696
>>52076872
>>52076891

I've seen a lot of dumb shit in 40k. I've heard about the Sisters/Grey Knight thing. I've heard about Master of Mankind. This is literally the dumbest plot development I have ever heard in 40k.

And yes, this includes what's been shown of Gathering Storm so far.

>>52084750
>except Dark Angels
nah, some dark angels show up on macragge after they hear about him reviving, then start crusading with throbbing imperial erections like everyone else

the cypher stuff happens later in the book, hopefully we get some more pages shown soon

>>52071334
Khan is probably the only primarch who is wholely uninterested in ruling

>>52075709
In some versions of Horus' backstory he actually left his planet and met the Emperor. But I think that is it

>>52076040
>>52083653
Bait me softly

Isn't Vulkan roaming around too? What about him?

Also, what do Calgar and I, CATO SICARIUS, think about Guilliman returning?

>>52085889
Calgar stayed ruling Ultramar, I CATO went with his dad to Terra.

>>52085241
Yeah, but only small delegation like Raven Guard and they didn't swore allegiance to Guilliman unlike other first founding chapters and Black Templars.

My prediction is that Gilly is just going along with this to get close enough to the Emperor to release his father from its living death.

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>>52071200
Rigoberto Guillermo del Toro

>>52072438
>the entire 40k community (yes, that includes /tg/, and even shit like Reddit) is laughing at you
So, all twelve of you?
Man, how will we ever live that down?
Maybe by not paying attention, because I stopped playing your shitty game years ago?

>>52068106
the part where you told him to fuck off out of the hobby and sell his models

>>52084696

It's still not really a good showing for Guilliman since the only plausible defense is that it's a type of attack he wasn't used to.

>>52085190

The idea at least of Fenris having its own minor daemons isn't too far fetched a concept.

>>52088202
Why only Fenris?

Furthermore 'Minor' is open to interpretation considering what we see it achieve. At this stage the Fenrisian Gods pack more of a punch than Ynnead, Khaine or Cegorach combined.

Not to mention, again, if the Emperor knew totally good Warp Gods existed who allowed for the use of totally safe and benign Psychic why did he not simply teach all his Psychic subordinates and Astartes that Psychic and Shamanism is a-okay...as long as you worship the Fenrisian gods. Why enforce atheism when, instead, he could have told people they could choose between atheism or the very real gods of Fenris.

Think how much better things could have gone if he'd just told Lorgar 'Son the Gods are real, they are a bunch of wolves from that death world Fenris' and salved Lorgar's existential need for a higher power.

In fact why is the Emperor so weirdly mute on the existence of these very real gods allied with him on Fenris?

>>52079325
Literally the only one here who knows how to pronounce his name. Ive listened to the unremembered empire audiobook a while ago, so his name was never a question for me.

>>52076696
It still is Warp power. All psychic shit in 40K is. The 'gods' of Fenris are just not CHAOS Warp entities. Warp =/= Chaos.

It's still pretty bullshit that they can match the Ruinous Powers though.

>>52084390
Collecitve psychic power at work. All Sister powers are basically the result of their own combined fervor. They generate a Faith Waaagh!

They don't actually get powers from the Emperor.

>>52067124
me too

>>52066328
Age of Rowboat when

I have reasons to believe Matt Ward's busy playing a certain online game about space ninjas. I swear that game sucks people's souls. So no coming back for him?

>>52066328

Ultrasaber is great.

>>52067638
I'm just waiting on Fulgrim to come back and fuck Rowboat Bluemangroup up

>>52080247
Sanguinus is still dead anon.

The jesus who is Julius Caesar came back though and there's an Empire that's currently being managed astonishingly poorly.

>>52091829

Julius Caesar isDead anon

the Guilliman that we See now is FLAVIUS VALERIUS CONSTANTINUS I

>>52077768
>a bunch of no name gods from some backwater frozen nutsack wity little power they can scrounge up from ale and jizz covered space furries battled chaos into submission and prevented Magnus from doing too much more than his main goal
Fucking
What
The
Fucking
Fuck

>>52084643
what box problem?

>>52075992
well the souls of the rubircs that fall in battle go back to the planet of the sorcerers where they re recast into new suits of armor that are remade from dust and ash and magicla energies.

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>>52066328
>speshul snowflake, non-compliant chapter players are THIS butthurt

Get with the Codex or get out.

>>52071200
John Bigbootay Gilliman.

>>52072438
The only reason people stopped bitching about ward was that he left and the best thing you could say was that he was better than Crud.