>At Barnes and Noble >Sci-fi section is inexplicably next

It already exists. It's called Blue Rose.

>>52007328
Alright anon you got my attention. Now does any one have a pdf?

>>52007304
Silk and the Glen
It's a /tg/ system built entirely for the purpose.

Wasn't this what lovedagger was suppose to be?

>>52007304
>Also everyone is white

Maybe because nobody wants to look at niggers. Not even niggers.

>>52007503
I thought it was because niggers where too busy reading the ones about dinosaurs. Imho that would make them have slightly better taste.

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>>52007438
Oh sounds fun! Do you have a link?

>>52007328
Same for this one.

>>52007328

Or Monsterhearts, if you are more into urban fantasy.

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>>52007438

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Are there even NSFW level RPG's?

I'm not saying 50 Shades level stuff, but definitely NSFW style campaigns.

>>52007304

What's going on with this guys left (our right) nipple?

>>52009965
Someone screwed up painting a shiny chest

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>>52007304
>Realize that literally every cover is one of a woman in a fancy period dress, a shirtless guy who's usually a cowboy, or a man and woman kissing, the first of whom may or may not be shirtless
Let's not forget: male power fantasy.

>>52009446
>What is F.A.T.A.L.?
>What is Black Tokyo?

>>52009446
Yes of course
There is even a splatbook for lewd adventures for DnD. Spoony did an episode about it, but I forgot what it was called.

>>52010018
There's at least two.
Book of Erotic Fantasy, and the Carnal Knowledge Guide. I have PDFs of both because of morbid curiosity.

>>52010036
>Book of Erotic Fantasy
Yeah that's what I meant. Feel free to post it

>>52010092
Can't; file size limitations.
I can, however, link to my mediafire.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/w5obqm2tr1szc4u/Book_of_Erotic_Fantasy.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/tvtrm623e4l3cyd/CarnalKnowledgeGuide.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/slozgb5uwqpdobi/D20_-_D%26D_-_Mongoose_Publishing_-_Encyclopaedia_Arcane_-_Nymphology_-_Blue_Magic.pdf

Turns out there's at least three. Have fun, and please don't get my account shut down for excessive downloads or whatever.
I don't want to have to make a new one and upload the gigabytes of PDFs again.

>>52010141
Thank you m8, this will satisfy my morbid curiosity

>>52010092
there's also blue magic

>>52010196
Which is also posted in >>52010141 because I found it on my account.

>>52010196
lol my neophyte is a complete joke because he wears blue robes and he has no idea why.

>>52007586

>Fleur

Tell me, have you flowered yet?

>>52010141
Thanks for sharing!

>>52010537
None of your business.

>>52010952

Ah, so someone has already de-fleur'd you.

>>52009446

Wait, I haven't been following MonMun for a bit, when did Cott and Ton get out of the farm?

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>>52009990
Yep, that single example sure disproves the entire theory, yesirree

>>52007304
Why you gotta hate on women's porn, OP?

Someone post that Fabio RPG cap. I thought i had saved it but it looks like i didn't

>>52011207
What, women don't like cats or something?

>>52009446

Exalted

>>52007503
>>52007561
>>52007614
I used to work at a now extinct major bookstore chain. The "Black Fiction" section was almost 100% romance novels.

>>52008206
Where do people find the fucking time

>>52011207
The point still stands actually.

If that were a sexist male power fantasy then why would that be the art work commissioned to be on the cover of a romance novel marketed toward women?

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>>52009990
The thing you have to remember is that the producers and artists for both the comics and the books are dudes.

This isn't to say women don't have sexual fantasy stereotypes, they just don't look like that.

They look like this.

>>52011448
I fail to see the difference, other than that there's no woman in the pic to be carried
##52011468
Don't reply to bait even if you are baiting yourself

>>52011478
Slimmer. Chicks dig underwear models, not body builders.

>>52007400
Im going to also need that PDF

>>52011207
>not wanting to be the concubine of a handsome, ripped, powerful king who's sexual appetites are only outweighed by his prowess in battle
>not wanting to have several fine as fuck sister-wives so you can explore each other's bodies to distract you when your liege is off killing some unspeakable monster or putting down a rebellion
It's not even a dominance/submission thing either really, you think Conan wouldn't like being tied to the bed? At that point you're either fucking him or trying to kill him, and he's generally a fan of both.

Having to deal with his Lovecraftian level PTSD would suck, sure, but I think I could get over it.

>>52011300
Can confirm, there's tons of shitty Black Romance novels, it's not all whites. Though even on the standards of bad writing they're super awful.

>>52011541
Green text?
I want to know how awful they are

>>52011498
Their tastes vary, just like men's tastes do. I heared one chick complain that her lovers were "thiiis thin", meaning they had too little muscle mass for her tastes. There's even women out there who like pouch bellies.

>>52011570
Probably the same shit as most awful romance novels with worse prose.

>>52007328

I'm going to stand up for Blue Rose a bit and say that it's less vapid then most of these novels, and that I like the idea of maintaining a utopic setting rather then the usual striving for one.

>>52007304
you were looking at some pretty old romance books then. been some interesting studies on the changes in romance covers over the years, and you're stuck in the 80's, or with a bunch of authors without good sense.

>>52011728
I doubt you've read any regardless of "most" of these romance novels to simply write them all off.

>>52009990
When you read the book, the dudes usually have a rich inner life, a personal history that hasn't been retconned a dozend times, feelings, psychology and motivations and there are no illustrations beyond the cover.


Also, the novels usually are fun.

Fun.

They make for enjoyable reading.


So yes, the differences are staggering.

>>52011300
>extinct

Borders? Are you a Michibro??)

>>52011352
The point is non-existent. It is built on a single cherry-picked comparison without any wider context. There's no proof that the right image was commissioned for a harlequin novel, there's no evidence that the novel sold well or was a success, and no data as to who commissioned the work (and if it was a male marketing agents commissioning a male artist, then the comparison is particularly problematic).

Basically, for the point to stand, there would need to be a valid point made. Basic logic.

>>52011207
You realize that there is some convergence in what men and women fantasize about sexually, right? It's part of why we...well...have sex.


The only consistent difference you tend to see in these is who is more naked.

>>52007304
It would literally just be my regular fantasy game except the women would wait three weeks before screwing to "prove" to themselves they're not whores.

>>52012441
>Romance novel
>women waiting before they fuck somebody

Top kek.

>>52012497
Naw son, I'm kind of ashamed to even know this but Harlequin even had (have?) a rule for their novels about how fast the woman could move, so it wouldn't be """"trashy"""".

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>>52007304
I'd just run a WFRP game centered around Lahmian vampiresses with the PCs playing their swains.

>>52007328
Blue Rose isn't this genre though. It's a subsection of Fantasy based on the tone and themes of the Kushiel's Legacy fantasy series.
Whether or not you like Blue Rose, or that subgenre of fantasy, it's a reasonably structured RPG for mimicking a literary tradition.

>>52011514
I hope you are femanon or ca/tg/irl, cause I will find you, I will find and marry you...

>>52011207
why the star of david though

>>52012086
>When you read the book

And what the fuck does this have to do with the cover?

That's right. Nothing.

>>52012533
>Harlequin

Anon, that's one company. You're basically saying that no males in comics have penises just because that's the industry standard for Marvel/DC.

>>52013376
The actual sexual fantasy they're selling is in the book, not on the cover.

>>52013437
Except the vast majority of complaints against male power fantasy are solely about the art, not about the content inside it or connected to it.

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>>52008206
So what if I were to make lord byron in this game? How would I stat him?

>>52013422
DC also had an official non-existance of mastrubation in thier universe. Quoth Neil Gaiman when he was informed of this rule while writing Sandman, "That really explains a lot actually."

>>52007304
>>52007328
Pendragon. You MIGHT need to brew in rules for shitty-ass pre-WWI revolvers but that's it.

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>>52013524
Can't. Recursion. Byron is the archetype the game is based off. It's not quite like statting superman in a superhero game. It's like statting /the abstract concept of strength/ in a superhero game. Byron-ness is a measurement in this game.

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>>52007304

>>52007328
Describe it to me

>>52013813
I think I may have seen weirder, but that's pretty high up there.

>>52013813
>>52015440
Romance novels get much more wierd than BL. I mean, there's only very little Stoneage-men BL, but there is a whole internationally extremely successful Romance series about a woman fucking her Neanderthaler childhood friend.

>>52013462
The art's simply a good reference points, it's not like the male power fantasy stops there on the surfarce in cape comics.

>>52015495
Earth's Children?

>>52015514
Cape comics don't have an audience as much as they have a bunch of fanboys sucking the dick of a bunch of corporate IDs running off the fumes of the popularity they enjoyed 30 years ago and leeching off far more competent adaptations. Really, the american comic industry is pitiful even when compared to the one in Hueland ie a country with much less disposable income and half the population.

>>52013813
>Cnut
>Cunt

Deepest lore and writing

##52012767
Why do you reply to obvious bait
Oh wait, you're baiting yourself.
>>52013569
How does this even make any sense
>>52013813
>>52015495
There's a bunch of pretty good (read: weird and convoluted) Werebear romance novels out there. And no, they don't only have sex when the werebear is a man.

>>52011300
That's because lasting relationships are fictional in the black community.

>>52011207
that picture is exactly what bitches want

all the women want to compete over the hottest few alpha guys, and be his little slut, as long as they're rich and pampered and being paid attention to

>>52017395
Not at all.

>>52017395
>all the women want to compete
No.

All the women want to be the one and only force who can control and tame his primal fury and rage at the universe, to be the one woman who can tame the beast, control the vampire, be the center of his universe.

Any woman who says differently is lying.

>>52013813
This is almost as bad as a Chuck Tingle novel.

>>52012320
There's convergence, yes, and there is some overlap of male power fantasies and female romantic fantasies.

The specific argument made in the post I was disagreeing with, though, is bullshit. The author compared two specific images and said that because they were very similar there must be no difference at all between male power fantasies and female romantic fantasies. That's like saying that a+b=a*b in all cases because 2+2=2*2.

>>52011207
> one example.

You dont go to book stores do you?

>>52011448
Proof?
Also they are described like that in the books. So nope.

>>52007304
Someone get the SJWs onto this cishet white privileged shit. The more institutions they attack the more deranged they reveal themselves to be.

>>52011478
>I fail to see the difference
Tom Hiddleston is very popular among women for more than just his build, anon.
He has a .... cleanliness, I guess works as a description, to him. Clean lines, even build, strong voice, well mannered, NON-THREATENING on face.
>>52018267
Won't ever happen, anon, so stop your silliness.

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>>52009446
Yes but I implore you to just to play a normal RPG with some lewd/NSFW stuff added in rather then use this abomination.

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>IN A WORLD of shy, bookish, dreamy women...
>Of boring neglectful husbands, overbearing parents, and abusive boyfriends
>...a heroic, roguish, exciting, tall, mysterious, rich, charismatic, dangerous, yet occasionally gentle new breed of man will arise
>This summer is about to get even steamier

>>52017537

>implying men don't want the same from a woman

>>52013813
What? What is the title?

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>>52017648
>Chuck Tingle
How bad can he be really?

>>52013813

That reads more like a pitch to a modern action pulp than it does a romance novel.

>>52018801
>That title
Also, aren't those books written by computers?

>>52012194
>cherry-picked
are you fucking serious? Have you never left your house and gone to a bookstore or an airport store?

>There's no proof that the right image was commissioned for a harlequin novel

google fabio (novel cover)

>there's no evidence that the novel sold well or was a success
We know that these novels sell reasonably well enough to cover an entire section of most bookstores.

>and no data as to who commissioned the work
not relevant. the actual fact that women eat that shit up is not related to whether they are written by men or women.

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>>52018645
To be honest, I'd totally buy a smutty romance novel where a brave female knight rescues a charming prince and tenderly steals his virginity. Bonus points if the cover art features a female model in incredibly shitty LARP gear that emphasizes her abs and a fuccboi male model in elaborate baroque noble clothing. Extra bonus points if halfway through the novel a rival prince(female) shows who tries (and eventually fails) to NTR the female knight.

>>52012086
so the only difference is that novels don't retcon as much huh

>>52018876
Nope, Chuck tingle writes his own shit.

If you're into Computer written novels, I recommend "The Illustrious Career of Serenity Starlight Warhammer O'James"

>>52018924
>Extra bonus points if halfway through the novel a rival prince(female) shows who tries (and eventually succeeds) to NTR the female knight.

Fixed that for you, friend.

>>52019024
That is horrible. Next you are going to say that the cute olympic brown waifu should be fucked by the ugliest, smelliest old fuck for no good reason.

>>52018876
They're written by a spreadsheet, actually.

Chuck wrote the spreadsheet, though, so technically he writes all his books.

Ok you know Everyone is John, right? Everyone is Fabio.

>>52019024
Only acceptable if
>it was rape
>the female knight gets torture porn level revenge later
>and then they live happily ever after

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>>52018801
Chuck Tingle is a true artist.

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>>52019338
I got a fitting captcha.

>>52019084
>>52019186
Of course not. She needs to NTR the rival prince(female) away from the protagonist with the subtle aid of the female knight, so that the female knight can swoop in and comfort him all night long while he's reeling from the loss, thus cementing her in his mind as the only person in the world he can always rely on.

>>52011207
what the fuck is that pose

why would you crouch like that

>>52011498
>soooo maaaaan
Many women want men who are big strong men.

Just like men have different tastes.

>caring about what roasties want

full cuck

>>52019768
He's sitting on a throne.

>>52020128
were you hit in the head as a child

>>52013462
The vast majority of complaints against male power fantasy come from women who are not valuable enough to get the powerful male.

>>52017537
And then they want a beta provider to confide into because the big alpha becomes "threatening" while they're not ovulating.

Dating, divorce and cheating numbers have shown women can't sustain a monogamous life.

>>52007304
>Also everyone is white

I know for a fact that there's nigger-based romances.

L.A. Banks writes that shit. It's all about niggers and woo-woo indians. I'd call it SJW shit if the SJWs wouldn't throw a shit fit and call it problematic.

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>>52011207

It's not the 'only' example, but the most clear and poignant for sure.

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>>52009446
I'd recommend Black Tokyo, if only so you'll translate it for the rest of us. FATAL if you don't want friends and/or are interested in reviving the lost tradition of FATAL FIGHT FRIDAYS

>>52019375
That sounds, among other things, decidedly Non-chivalrous.

>>52021588
Keep telling yourself that cuck

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>>52009446
Lace and Steel markets itself as a swashbuckling bodice-ripper and makes special mention of the readily available horsepussy of its setting

No actual lewd mechanics though

>>52021588
>Dating, divorce and cheating numbers have shown spineless manginas can't keep their women in line.

Fixed that fer ya.

>>52007304
>How would you make a setting based on the most stereotypical trashy romance books?
I'd reverse the roles. Tall, muscular Amazons ravishing shorter, slender boys, and (if need be) fighting to protect them.

>>52011207
It illustrates a pattern that *does* disprove the theory.

The point is that the people who call pics like yours a "male power fantasy" as an indictment against men for having childish and harmful ideas about women ignore that media made by and for women is promoted with images that are extremely similar.

Calling things a "male power fantasy" is also a way for feminists to dismiss their own hypocrisy. They rail against unrealistic portrayals of women that cater to men. Men respond by pointing out unrealistic portrayals of men that cater to women. Feminists attempt to maintain their "men bad, women good" narrative by dismissing the unrealistic men as "male power fantasies" so they don't have to admit (or even explore the possibility) that a lot of men really *don't* fantasize about being like those unrealistic men but have a lot of reason to believe that that's what women want.

>>52025201
We already have Busty Barbarian Bimbos.

>>52012086
>When you read the book, the dudes usually have a rich inner life, a personal history that hasn't been retconned a dozend times, feelings, psychology and motivations
All of which would hold no interest for female readers if they weren't first established as strong, powerful protectors who will sweep them off their feet.

Try getting deep into the mind and feelings of a man who doesn't fit that role and watch the readers' interest die.

>>52012320
>You realize that there is some convergence in what men and women fantasize about sexually, right? It's part of why we...well...have sex.
Actually, in this case, it might not actually be convergence, because men don't enjoy that fantasy as much as people think, and would enjoy the *reversal* of it far more than people think:
http://www.feministcritics.org/blog/2010/11/20/do-men-or-women-have-fantasies-of-dominance-and-submission-the-results-noh/

>>52013462
Don't play dumb. You know as well as I do that the art implies and influences the content, or is derived from it. You're talking as if the art and the content have nothing to do with each other.

>>52025291
I'd like something that took itself a little more seriously.

>>52007650
Monster hearts is just 'gay rape the RPG'

>>52017858
>there is some overlap of male power fantasies and female romantic fantasies.

>implying male romantic fantasies can't include being a manly adonis to please your soulmate
>implying female power fantasies can't include keeping a barbarian murdermachine on a short leash.

Anyways, the fact that the origin of those two pics is immediately recognizable would indicate that they are pretty reprensentative of their respective genre. As would the first 40 pages of results when you google milady, arlequin, or trashy romance novels.

>>52025448
So, sengoku-era shudo with amazon warriors and shota princelings, as part of an hostage exchange?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVw68FKLEzQ

>>52025317
Most of them start out not even being particularily interested in the MC. Usually these relationships start out with both of them aknowledging that the other person's kinda attractive, but they both got lifes or personal histories that keep them occupied.

>>52012086
>he doesn't read flex mentallo
What a pleb.

>>52007304

It really depends. What kind of mood are you going for? I've run romances as 'subplots' to more serious games, but the thing is it's for guys. So mostly it's anime-styled romances, instead of female romance novels.

The latter is pretty weird to play, strangely enough.

>>52018876
He started getting into gay personifications quite recently. It was mostly about gay human/dinosaur relationships before that.