I'm in dire need of some system recommendations, so maybe

>>52002479
5E is designed specifically for non-grid gameplay. I've never actually seen anyone play it with a grid before.

Plus it's the only thing I can think of that ticks all your boxes without being so obscure you'd never find a full group to play it.
Maybe Burning Wheel?

GURPS

>>52002577
Got a group that will most likely play anything that would tick most of these boxes, so that's not the biggest problem. I've seen a lot of "how to translate spell cones into non-grid relative positions" etc. threads about 5E, that's why I didn't immediately look into it.

>>52002737
The people making those threads are retarded, 5E is explicitly made to work with theater of the mind gameplay.

>>52002479
GURPS, either Dungeon or Fantasy.

>>52002805
It's Dungeon Fantasy.
Just "Fantasy" is a "how to build a fantasy setting" book.

>>52002479
>Medium(+) rules depth
Now is that
>I really want a rules lite system but don't want to admit I want soft rules.
or
>What I really want is really crunchy rules, but want to avoid anything that remotely sounds like D&D

>>52002479

Looking for a fantasy system that offers:
>Gridless combat
>Medium(+) rules depth
>More than 4 playable races
>Skills for martials
>Optional setting (can brew my own)

pretty much F.A.T.A.L. good anon
have fun!!!

also rollan

>>52002577
>Medium(+) rules depth
>Maybe Burning Wheel?
Burning wheel is one of the few systems that I'd consider heavier rule wise than 3.5

Rolled 2 (1d100)

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>>52002850
I like when it's depth that can actually be used for something instead of being "depth for depth's sake". Maybe "options" would be a more fitting term? Sure you can homebrew lots of stuff but I enjoy systems that have a solid core to work with.

>>52003033
Go with Savage Worlds

>>52002479
Play Shadow of the Demon Lord

>>52002479
>More than 4 playable races
Why? Can't role play properly unless someone has elf titties and dwarf cock?

>>52003338
Because I find it extremely boring. Hey let's play a fantasy campaign with humans, short humans and catwalk models with an abnormally long lifespan.

>>52003397
And someone who plays a demon, djinn, or angel the exact same way as a human, short human, or catwalk model with an abnormally long lfiespan except with a minor gimmick is not boring to you?

>>52002479
Rule of Cool's Legend.

>>52003473
Djinn, Demon or Angel are arguably further away from being human + modifier than dwarf #8733

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>>52002479

FFG Star Wars Edge of the Empire

>>52003397

If you are bored by settings that only have humans in them then you have no idea what good characterization is. You are simply a pleb. I suspect you're probably a snowflaker too. Indulge us: what was your last character?

>>52005465
huh... actually yea, seconding this.