Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

>I2

ill start with a fun question

what army has your favorite aesthetic to it /tg/?

Adarki Aeldari reporting in!

>>51987251
Dark Eldar just does things to me, man. I was going to pick Admech as my 3rd army and my other bud was going to do DE with his brother, but at last second we switched. I couldn't let those awesome models and aesthetics go.

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ITT we post smug 40k faces

>condescending remark preferred but not required

>>51987251
Orkz, it's why I play them

nothing like a scary horde to make your opponent shit themselves

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>>51987251
One and only.

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>>51987282

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>>51987311
>eternal crusade

From last thread, are waekoptas any better than trukks? Are they dedicated transports?

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Ok, how fucked am I at 1500 ?

>>51987244
Define cheese. If it's a lot of Rhinos then 4 ML should pop one a turn, the Devs don't have split fire anyway so you gain nothing from overkill. Bunch of hammernators, jinking shit and AV14 ? Yeah, I guess it's worth the few more points then.

A Black Knight costs 40 points so by dropping one you can afford two more devastators AND the auspex for the Libby. Since you want to have him go solo from time to time (which I wouldn't advise since he doesn't reroll jinks or have a invul save by default) you could also give him a melta bomb for the last 5 spare points for some hit and run on the enemy vehicles. Or an auspex for the Devastator Libby in case you don't roll ignore cover.

>>51987401
Seems decent except against flyers or hordes.

>>51987365
I don't think they're dedicated, but they are pretty solid from what I recall. They've got a twin-linked Deffgun by default, and they're Fast Skimmers. That makes them very good as both firing platforms and as assault transports. Being able to Jink also adds to their survivability a bit.

Downside is that they're like 60 points, so you're spending double the cost for all this. It may be worth it for something where a Trukk is too cheap but a Battlewagon is too expensive.

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>>51987446
Quite honestly flyers from my meta don't worry me since there's nothing much they can do to this list beside popping the Dread.

I do have an alternative though with some AA.

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>>51987251

>>51987251
Sisters of battle. Crucifix mechas and pipe organ tanks are the embodiment of 40k

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What are you anons working on?
Play any games lately?
Plan to?

Waiting for some washes to dry so might as well start the topic.
Pic related is my happy little Grotesquerie. Papa Ul'Ikai is in the back making sure they're getting their daily recommended colors and the Cronos in the far back is just having a small antenna repair. The 2 with guts showing are my Abberations.

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>>51987649
Good tatse

Are flash gitz really that bad? I mean they're bad in the way that all ork units are bad, but are they really any worse than most other units?

Arrright, they said something for every army this year.

Whilst I seriously doubt it, that does mean we're at least getting more than this first trilogy. What do we think is up next?

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>>51987677

thin your paints

>>51987697
In comparison to the better ork units, yes.

>>51987719
As much as it'll trigger /40kg/, and hype me the fuck up, I want to believe Tau are next, the reason being that they don't exist outside of Macragge's backyard. I don't think they want a continuing storyline to just shoot back to the Tau for a minute and then pick back up.

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>>51987740

THICC

UR

PAAAAAIIIINTTTTTSSSS

TTTTTTTTHHHHHHHIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC

>>51987677
I love your work.
I think I'll copy your Ogre idea too.

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>>51987677

> working on

Gotta build a Rhino and prime a bunch of stuff today. I had some solid painting plans this week but I'm way behind (surprise).

Also

> Got ahold of four Ogryns for free, want to try them out for kicks

I play Imperium but not Guard, are there any Faction Specific Detachments that are just Ogryns? I'd like to throw them into a game for the hell of it but without having to pay the points for an allied detachment.

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>>51987740

>>51987751
Well what are the top ork units. Besides just bikers. getting sick of bikers being the core of every army

>>51987785
Perhaps go for Castellans? That could let you toss in some Ogryn depending on what Imperium army you're doing.

>>51987677
Why the fuck aren't you priming in white then base spraying skin?

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>>51987251
Skitarii. The self augmentation and hooded robes does it for me. Also that they use carbines and arquebus for weapons.

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>>51987677

Working on a genecult. Just finished my patriarch.

>>51987810
mek guns, particular stompa variants, meganobz, tankbustas, deff dreads and some of the planes.

>>51987785
There's the ogryn auxilia, but I think that's like 12 ogryns

>>51987251
>Necrons, Space Egyptian ancient aliens

>>51987840
>that pose
>"you can't get discovered if you're not in cover"

>>51987845
I thought meganobz were shit.

I'm just used to working with priming shit black.

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>>51987812

I thought about it but it's too much, points and size wise.

Honestly my meta is bro-tier so it wouldn't be a problem if I brought them to a friendly game, but I'd like to be battleforged if I could. I just got some big huge dumbasses and thought it would be cool to paint them up and throw them into the meatgrinder with my dudes.

>>51987887
They're better than flash gitz and regular nobz.

>>51987901
meant to reply to >>51987826

>>51987882

Missing the reference, sorry.

>>51987887

They're actually one of the better Terminator equivalents, even coming with the option of cheap transports.

The problem is terminator equivalents in general suck, and Orks don't pull their weight overall in specific.

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>>51987936

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>>51987277
My Druchii.

>>51987991

Ah.

The default Patriarch is touching his forehead too.

>>51987785
>I play Imperium but not Guard, are there any Faction Specific Detachments that are just Ogryns? I'd like to throw them into a game for the hell of it but without having to pay the points for an allied detachment.

Make a Kill Team out of it.

So the Gulliman is a dreadnought rumour was completely right in all aspects other than he doesn't count as a vehicle for rules purposes, right?

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>>51988010
*Adarki Aeldari

>>51988055

Pretty much

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>>51988057
*Drukhari

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>>51987677
Pz.IV Predator mostly complete; Jagdpanzer IV conversion to Rhino still WIP.

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>>51987311

>eternal crusade

>>51988087

Adrukharii.

>>51988055
I don't think we have his stats yet but if he's a walker and riptides stay mc I'm fucking done

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>>51987840
>off my chair xeno, the imperial governor sits there

>>51987243
Necrons?

>>51988087
>>51988057

>Aeldari
>*Drukhari

Any of the space elf queers at your shops using this name yet?

>>51988155
Only sarcastically or mockingly.

>>51988122

The Patriarch is the imperial governor, he's just not wearing his regulation governor hat right now.

>>51987251
Orks and HH Mechanicum.

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>>51987219
When does he get released?

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>>51988155
Still Eldar and Dark Eldar. Or Ynnari if you're running one of those. I am

>>51987832
I'm so fucking pissed that Transuranic Arquebuses are bad weapons. Why cant they just be S6 ap3, armorbane rad-phage. Would make them good and usable in some situations over plasma and haywire.

>>51988202
I thought about it but I wanna stay loyal to vect.

It would, at least, allow me to run my harlies in the same detachment.

>>51987921
Well stop. Do you still shit your pants because you got used to it?

>>51988028

Four Ogryns would be 170 points. If I dropped a few bucks on a five man IG platoon that would fill out the other 30 points and give me some more manpower... I wonder how that would hold up in a Killteam game.

>>51988194

This month.

>>51988225
You can use Ynnari rules with Vect fluff fairly easily. Gameplay wise, Harlies in raiders is worth giving up PfP

>>51988209
>bad weapons
Nigga you're doing it wrong. Stick them in Rangers and flank the board, pop transports with side armour shots and pepper MC's with that delicious 4+ to wound and Rending.

Don't ever give them to Vanguard, though.

>>51988262
As in Pre-Orders tomorrow night, or as in 'any time in the next 4 weeks'?

>>51988194
Saturday

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Does buying recasts making me a horrible player?

I want to try out new armies but just can't afford GW's insane prices to find out if I even LIKE playing them.

Like, I will still buy official models if I like the army but hundreds for even a starter army seems excessive.

>>51988259
>If I dropped a few bucks on a five man IG platoon

Im pretty sure you have to take a PCS and 2 infantry squads to make a platoon, not just the command squad.

For 200pts you could either go 3 Ogryns and one Chimera or 4 Ogryns and 5 Ratlings.

>>51988323
Just proxy.

>>51987810
Flashgitz in 'nauts. You know it to be true.

>>51988323
What plastic army costs hundreds of dollars for 500 points?

Knights?

>>51988323
If your plan is to buy real ones eventually than just proxies first

>>51988055
Y'all niggas laughed at me

>though a knight sized dreadnought would have been cooler

>>51988194

>Cypher has an anime sized buster sword now because the Primarchs have been retconned into turbo-Giants

>>51988323
I thought spider eggs in the gum was a myth...

>>51988295
Wouldn't an ironstrider do the same thing better?

>>51988368
>Primarch size
>retcon

Oh boy, here we go again.

>>51988368
I'd say it's too big to be a sword, more like a slab of iron or something

>>51988282
How? Vect hates Ynnari.

As powerful as it would make my army the idea of harlies starting in raiders and Deldar starting in star weavers makes me sick.

>>51988384

Yeah because cypher had a normal scaled sword for his good health before.

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Hey guys,

I just finished making some heavy destroyers. I'm really happy with how these turned. The guns are heavy gauss cannons from the triarch stalker kit.

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>>51988384
that's Russ on a 25mm base.

>>51988116
Adarki Adrukharii

>>51988295
>Stick them in Rangers and flank the board, pop transports with side armour shots
I'll use haywire for that.

>pepper MC's with that delicious 4+ to wound and Rending.
I use plasma for that.

TA is mediocre weapon and there is no way around it. Against vehicles it one S7 shot on average. Against infantry you need ~4,5 shots to kill single guy from 5+ cover. Only thing going on for it is long range. But everything else is just bad.

And its bad because you cant count on it to do its job when you need it. Its just random shots plinking at your opponent and its rare if it does anything worthwhile.

>>51988325

Killteam requires four non-vehicle minis, so three Ogryns and a chimera wouldn't be legal.

Four Ogryns only leaves 30 points though, it's hard to find something that would fit into that because you can't give them wargear.

>>51988055
No.
He has an in built life support system, but that's hardly the same thing as being interred in a dreadnought.

>>51988345
Any horde army, I suppose?

>>51988323
Generally people pick their armies because of how they look and how the fluff appeals to them, christ theres a ton of Ork players who love Orks despite them being shit in the table, same with Black Templar players.

Pick an army that you want to paint and build for months on end because thats what you'll be doing most of the time, working on your models, the rules might change in the future, YOUR models wont.

My advise is get a Start Collecting box or a transport+troop box and play Kill Team for now.

>>51988345
500 points isn't even close to an accurate representation of gameplay for many armies.

>>51988408
That's not a Primarch though. That's the Space Wolves Commander.

>>51988388
Vect is fine with Harlies though, he employs a lot of them.

As long as you're using only Deldar and Harlie units than the fluff is perfectly in tact. The 'soul burst' shit actually feels more like the old school PfP anyway, is it that hard to reconcile in your mind that the Deldar are just getting drunk of bloodlust?

>>51988341
I don't want the game to be over second turn anon. At least give the riptide wings something they could conceivably beat.

>>51988402

Where's the targeter on their opposite shoulder?

I kinda like the no-elbow look of the standard heavies desu, though obviously the conversion kit is trash due to how warped the barrels are.

>>51988444
Oh right, I though Leman Russ was the primarch of the space wolves, my bad.

>>51988395
It was never confirmed what that sword was before, at most they are retconning the sword's fluff.

>>51988426

He's a master crafted dreadnought. Significant bulk added to his body, can never leave the suit, and honestly given the proportions those almost certainly aren't his real legs.

>>51988455
Maybe let your opponent ally a wraithknight, to make it even. Of course you shouldn't bring more points, else you'd turn into "that guy".

>>51988455
>If I repeat it enough times someone will laugh right?

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>>51987882
Can't lose if you eat your opponents models

>>51988451
Pretty much this. I'm going to be running dark eldar army with rebirn warhost. Though I might dip into some craftworld units which can be refluffed as dark eldar.

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>>51988413
ADarki Adurka Adurk-ari

>>51988457

I didn't like the look of the targeter, so I didn't put them on. I have the resin kits, and they were shit, so I didn't use them.

3 Broadsides good for $120?

>>51988508
There's actually fluff about Vect owning some Wraith Guard even, so feel free to toss those in.

I haven't played since 3rd ed but have recently come into a buttload of OG stormtroopers, which are some of my favorite minis ever. I always wanted to do a storm trooper army and looking into it, much to my delight not only is there one, they are not complete garbage now(?) The tauroxes look pretty silly, but I've been directed to a wheel kit that makes them look pretty good I think.

I don't have a question or anything. I am just kind of excited and wanted to tell someone and none of my friends like warhams

>>51988550
Depends on state.

>>51988581
new in box

>>51988373
>heavy support
>shorter range
>no armourbane
>no Sniper rule
>bigger, more obvious 'shoot me' target

Honestly they work hand in hand. Give the Ironstrider a TL Lascannon for more reliable penetration on heavier tanks, and let the Rangers pick off transports, and they can both work together to put the hurt on MC's. Of the two I'd say the Rangers are more useful to cover more bases; you can pick off light vehicles while on the move and then harass infantry squads with massed Precision shots to single out sargeants and special weapons.

>>51988436
Anon said a starting army

>>51988574
>they are not complete garbage now(?)

They are like Dark Eldar, you either hit hard and fast and win or get blown the fuck out. Hellrain Brigade does help a bit imo by giving extra number of troops rather than being restricted to a small and finite number of them.

>>51988585
20% off isn't bad.

>>51988368
>Plays a game that includes space wizards, giant robots with chainsaws, robot demons and alien rape lizards
>Complains about the existence of giants

k.

>>51988620
That sounds amazing, at least compared to what I remember, which was paying 12 pts (I think) per model for marginally better guardsmen with deepstrike.

(not to mention being their own force)

>>51988419
>Against vehicles it one S7 shot on average
S11 average, actually. Armourbane, remember?

>>51988634
>hurr lemme dumb down everything to its most basic description to make it look silly
Retcons are one of a fa/tg/uy's worst nightmares.

>>51988634

More the existence of guys so far beyond regular marines that they warp the setting completely with their mere prescence.

A Primarch is going to wade through anything they come up against with distainful ease, barring another Primarch or daddy/the four slapping them down for talking shit.

And yet appartently C'tan running about were too much. They can't even stay consistent on this shit.

>>51988613
You need 72 BS4 S4 shots to kill space marine sergeant.
You need 24 BS4 Sx ap3 shots to kill that same sergeant.

Half the value for special weapons.

How in the holy gogs name you can think thats a good weapon or even a good tactic?

>>51988673
they why did you complain about it 11 years ago when the HH novels started?

At this point you it's just as valid to be complaing about 2nd ed's retcons as it is to cry about the Primarch size.

(especially since the Primarch's being Giants was a change for the better)

>>51988509
A(ADarki Adurka Adurk-ari)i

>>51988685
C'tan are still running around, and it actually makes a lot more sense for a T7 W5 MC to be a shard than the god itself.

Not all retcons are bad, anon.

>>51988562
I was considering some wraithblades actually. I love the models. Even if they're not as great on the table.

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Will Skitarii/Mechanicus get a supplement that expands them into full armies with decurions?

>>51988685
>More the existence of guys so far beyond regular marines that they warp the setting completely with their mere prescence.

A titan can still step on him. You act like he's the Emperor or something.

>>51988755
We're past the age of Decurions, now the Mega-Force Organization Charts era has begun! Rejoice for you already have one!.

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>>51988574
>The tauroxes look pretty silly, but I've been directed to a wheel kit that makes them look pretty good I think.

Go big or go home

>>51988768
Oh god, fuck playing those 3000 minimum monstrosities. I'd rather we got age of sigmar'd

>>51988757

Primarchs have literally caught descending Titan feet before anon.

>>51988784
So.. pointless monstrosities with tanks firing into melee, heavy weapons teams firing out, barehanded space marines punching holes in grots and hive tyrants on 3+?

>>51987251
A subfaction, but Slaaneshi Daemons. Seekers and Fiends look so good.

>>51988202
>IMPRESSIVE
>FOR A MON'KEIGH

>>51988809
Descending and getting stepped on are different things.

>>51988755
I think they should just add a supplement that combines the books. You can't make an efficient low-point group of them because of the split-book thing.

>>51988955

>Getting stepped on and getting stepped on are two different things

What?

>>51987251
Necrons and Slaanesh chaos

>>51988755
It would be nice to run admech without having to use the hideously ugly kataphrons as the only troop choice.

>>51989009

It's actually kinda surprising Slaanesh and Nurgle aren't opposites. What's more unsexy, less to do with revelling in pleasure than wallowing in decay and muck?

Similarly, Khorne notoriously hates magic and Tzeentch basically is magic.

>>51989032

Conveeeeeert them.

Though honestly those things are blatant heavy support what the shit is with making them troops.

>>51989041
I never got this either.

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>>51987251
Black Templars, because they are the epitome of medieval space knights and that is rad as fuck.

Is it worth taking 2 Cognis Flamers on my Kataphron Destroyers against any potential hordes or are Vanguards, a Neutron Laser and the Phosphor Blasters enough for dealing with those?

>>51988323
>Does buying recasts making me a horrible player?
I don't think that it has an effect on your skill or interpersonal courtesy.
It just makes you a pirate.

>>51989068
Just wish they had more shit. They don't even get any special formations.

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>>51989032

>>51989094
But they have the highly adjustable and easily slottable Wrathful Crusade :^)

>>51989107
Kastelans are heavy support though

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>>51989107
I love the first one! Is that a conversion?

>>51988433
This. I never touched a figure for years but read the books and stayed up to date with the lore and shit for years, but the prices turned me off.

Eventually started building a Dark Angels army just because I liked their fluff. Secret ultra religious order that chants hymms will killing their fallen brothers was just interesting to me.

>>51989107
So hot

>>51989107
I wish the armor plating wasn't so segmented.

>>51989041
>>51989059
I think it has to do with Tzeentch being change and Nurgle being stagnation.

And with Slaanesh taking pleasure and time to perfect slowly torturing and agonzing their opponents, Khorne merely slays outright.

>>51989082

The flamers are great because it makes those hordes want to charge you much less, as well as provides a good burn unit for your backfield.

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>>51989107
The default models aren't bad for kastelan though. It's the troop choices I dislike and I've not seen any good conversions either.

>>51989160
>>51989210

>Kastelans
Oh right, Kataphons, Kataprhacts, Kastellans, it all runs together.

Admech are as unimaginative in naming as in design.

>>51988986
Grand Convocation does that though, doesn't it? It even includes the enginseer so you can get pretty cheap hq's

>>51989162
its a head swap you can buy at wargames exclusive

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>>51988055
>Walkers aren't vehicles.

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>>51989210
I personally really like their models, though the abundance of bare metal the Destroyers have makes it kind of hard to give them a good paint scheme.

I like these Dark Mechanicus conversions. They're really simple but definitely do the job.

>>51988259
3 ogryns + 10 veterans comes out to 190 points. This leaves you 10 points for weapons upgrades (a meltagun, a Heavy Weapon or two Grenade Launchers or Heavy Flamers)

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>>51989187
>I wish the armor plating wasn't so segmented.
More like so?

>>51989259
Way too topheavy, their torso is almost twice their legs.

>>51989230
Thanks a ton! :)

>>51989210
I hate those models so much. I think they're one of the ugliest in the game.

>>51989259
This looks interesting, but the model looks a bit too busy.

>>51989210
are you kidding? those are one of my favorites but if you want replacements

https://wargameexclusive.com/shop/mechanic-adepts/kataton-battle-servitor-squad-28mm/

and in lady edition
https://wargameexclusive.com/shop/mechanic-adepts/mechanic-adept-eradicator-squad-sealed/

>>51989283
Do you post with a name just to piss people off?

>>51989224
It just mashes them together in a bad detachment. Giving your vehicles IWND would be nice and all if you actually had vehicles to easily spam. You only have Onagers, Ironstriders and Dragoons. Both Cavaliers are usually just penetrated once and then explode if they take damage and the Onager you can't reliably spam since it's 90 points and you already have 300+ points in Troops and HQs.

That 300 point minimum tax of units that won't even get a Detachment bonus makes it impossible to use in small point games.

Welp, I am now joining the ranks of the Space Marines! Just nabbed the start collecting set for $66.

>>51989289
Partially.

>>51989285
Ok the lady edition isn't bad.

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>>51989282
Fair point, though I'd see those legs as anchoring when firing.

Also found this conversion the other day. Doesn't work for regular Mechanicus but makes for a pretty interesting Dark Mechanicus version.

>>51989301
Isn't it 65€ on the GW site?

>>51989274
Yeah. I'm not a fan of how bulbous the model looks normally.

>>51989311
Dunno, there are ogryn servitors, and the less brain the easier it is to automate them.

>>51989314
You can get a discount on other sites.

>>51989310
Not a fan.

>>51989285
Are they the same scale? It seems like they're a lot smaller than the official models.

>>51989301
Congrats! What group are you going for?

>>51989314
Apparently it's 50 euros, which is $52.57. Call me jelly, but hey, at least $66 beats $85.

>>51987219
>>40k rules reference in wiki format. 204% Organized
>https://sites.google.com/site/wh40000rules/
Woah, that's new. Does it have the Gathering Storm rules?

>>51989359
>A Euro is nearly a dollar
What the fuck happened?

>>51988480
He was also *a* primarch of the Space Wolves. Ancient lore is very different..

>>51989311
Does he have a knife in his brain?

>>51987251
Tyranids first, AdMech second. Haemonculus Covens are also top tier, and several cuts above the rest of the Dark Eldar line.

>>51987311
>>All factions are playable
What? Playable nids?

>>51988666
Well S7 on average is armor penetration roll of 11. So is S4 armorbane. Singleshot autocannons dont have very good track record of breaking anything vehicle related unless its scout sentinel out in the open.

>>51989351
Call me boring, but I like Ultramarines (honestly it's mainly the color scheme). I've actually wanted to build them for a while, but Guilliman's announcement put me over the edge.

>>51989371
I would hazard a guess at the debt being built up by the weaker economies of the EU.

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>>51989274
It reminds me of the Horus Heresy stuff for Mech with how smooth it is.

>>51989399
>Guilliman's announcement put me over the edge
Do you actually like his model?

>>51989359
B-but I just looked it up, it's 65€. Not that it would matter though.

>>51989371
The EU is getting its dry asshole pounded by multiple major issues

>>51989408
This might ruffle some feathers but yes, I find it rather cool. Being completely honest, I have no idea what people see when they say the pose is stupid, not saying they're wrong, I just can't notice it. On a similar note the golden swirls don't really bother me (I actually think slightly positively of them).

>>51989420
Huh, I see what you mean. It's 65 for France but for "rest of EU" it's 50.

>>51989463
I looked it up from Austria though. I mean, I guess it's okay since my LGS sells them for 52€ anyway.

>>51989290
You also have knights which benefit from IWND. Yeah thats at much higher point values, but thats besides the point. The post i originally responded to just wanted a cheap way to have skitarii and cult at low points. Which Grand Convocation does.

>>51987311


well shit, it appears that geedubs is really translating of 40k into Brazillian portuguese

a friend of mine stated that EC is almost fully translated, and when he and someguys went to PCG event, he asked relic and some sega about that, and it looks like geedubs asked them to translate the game and the units into hue language due to the new demand.

since there's a strong but small WHFB and 40k scene there, losing only to the shitload of players who plays SW, GURPS, D&D and defenders of tokyo/FATAL/3D&T

could it be for 8th ed?

how do you transport your minis to your LGS?

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>>51989443
I don't mind the post, but the model itself is just dissapointing. I wish they pulled inspiration from the ForgeWorld model instead of adding random swirls and spikes.

>>51989399
>Call me boring, but I like Ultramarines (honestly it's mainly the color scheme).

Nothing's wrong with liking Ultramarines. The hate is mostly just a meme. :)

Actually now I do have a question about my beloved stormpoopers: what's a good army to pair them with? I think I'll have enough OG stormies for like a decent 400-600 pt force, but if I find myself enjoying this again I might want to bump up to 1000-1500. I'm looking at skitarii or sisters of battle, but I am getting the feeling they kind of all fill the same niche? Like I don't think either will really mitigate the scions' weaknesses or enhance their strengths.

>>51989481
Damn, are the rest of the products scaled that way, or is it just the Start Collecting stuff?

>>51989400
HH mech is some of the best work outta FW and GW.
If they had some deco style angular decorations I'd be living a life of crime to fund buying everything.

I was greatly disappointed when Warmahordes Convergence of Cyriss' supposed "Art deco" just included two units and then the rest were generic robots and war of the worlds rejects.

>>51989498
>FATAL
>People unironically playing FATAL
Fake news.

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>>51989526
Start collecting are specifically 50£ sets with varying discounts (and viability)

>>51989285
How do they get away with that while chapterhouse were shut down?

>>51989210
>>51989283
whats wrong with them? they are a sevitor stripped to the essentials and put on a tank

>>51987251
Necrons and Thousand Sons are at the top for me. The egyptian aesthetic gives me a hard-on.

>>51989540

Fatal in brazil was modified to become Defenders of Tokyo using AD&D and Gurps rules mixed into one

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D%26T

this shit is popular on anime events

>>51989526
Most of the newer stuff has a 20% discount on it, except for stuff they have to mailorder from GW directly, mostly older stuff, like the C'tan Shard or...dunno, I'm a necron player and not that interested in most other factions.
Gonna get Slambo today for 16 instead of 20€.

>>51989567
may nigga, the the latest releases of TKS have been top notch and I've even worked out a fluff rivalry between my TKS kabal plans and the necrons I got

>>51989560
I hate the look of servitors, and just don't like the whole half-tank look.

>>51989556
Based in a lax copyright country, I would guess.

>>51989517
A crate and a storage box.

>>51987251
IG and Skitarii
I think its just their relatively simple style compared to anime robots, demons and super humans.

>>51989556
They don't use GW unit names.

>>51989594
Nice. I was actually planning on doing something similar.
What are you working on?

>>51989556
>GREATER GOOD
>NECROCYBORGS
>SPACE ELVES
>MECHANIC ADEPTS
>IMPERIAL SOLDIERS
>HERESY HUNTERS
>SISTERS
>SPACE WARRIORS
do what? they're all completly original names and models

>>51989371
The Euro only gets weaker each year, mate. Iirc, it's worth like $1.06.

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>>51989603
>>51989560
This is what I think servitors should look like. Or the giant snake robot things from forgeworld.

>>51989560
The tank treads bother me, if they had legs I would have no issue. They don't fit "troop" at all.

>>51989641
Those guys aren't servitors though.

>>51989285
what the fuck.... i have never heard of this site before. those are not legal models, are they

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>>51989660
They aren't. My point is that is what servitors should look like, not what they are.

>>51989682
Legal? No, but that doesn't stop you from using them. It's kind of like using custom bits on models.

>>51989587

holy shit i remember going to brazil back in the 2000's and brought one of these along with the story that came up with named holy avenger

The elf was 100% classic fap material

>>51989498
i woudn't trust that much, Unless GW really made that deal with hasbro for worldwide distribution 4 kids with the starter sets

that site does look rather fishy

>>51989623
I'm revising these plans
http://pastebin.com/RDyTLPha
http://pastebin.com/wMneHfQd
http://pastebin.com/gkwEghgG

my mechanicus stuff will be further down the pipe and my lore for the Thousand sons will expand on the kabal and their motives, they will be called the "Seeds of Prosperity" and their interest in Settra prime would be the fact that a number of Prosperan architects and engineers stayed there to help the construction and integrated with the locals, though they still fail to take the planet, they did manage to steal promising specimens to try and breed a new generation of the once extinct prosperan genome, with the necrons standing as the main obstical between them and turning Settra Prime into a new Prospero

>>51989695
Those things aren't servitors at all. They're automata that had gained near sentience.

Also, you're speaking too generally. I've not heard this complaint before except by you.

Has anyone ever ordered from LegionForge before? Curious about their quality, but I can't find any reviews.

>>51989727
You're focused on what Games Workshop says they are. I'm saying that when someone says "Servitor" those are what I think of. Not the terrible half-robot models they have.

>>51989659
"Troop" is a rules clarification, for balance

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>>51989628
Kekked harder than I should have

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>>51989750
I just looks them up out of curiosity. They've got a fuckin' Abaddon model that's named Abandon!

>>51989775
>>51989778
>orkmind

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>>51989775
>>51989778
Oi! You nicked me reak-reeact-face wut youz make when sumfing funny pictcha!

>>51989775
>>51989778
HOLY SHIT

>>51989726
Only read your post, but if the planet is an actual tombworld, I don't think your 1ksons have any chance other than getting the fuck away from there.

>>51989726
I kinda meant to ask what you were painting, but that stuff looks nice too anon.

>>51989805
OI!! I POSTED IT FIRST YA LOW INISHUTIV GIT! HOW BOUTZ WE SETTLE DIS IN DA PIT?

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>>51989775
>>51989778

>>51989805
>>51989836
Watch out boyz it looks like these two iz really fired up!

>>51989400
I think that's the idea. in the fluff they can't make those robots anymore and all the existing ones are survivors of the HH.

i'm on a business trip in thailand next week.
anyone here from thailand who can give me an insight into the local prices?

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>>51989836
OI'LL KRUMP YA REAL GUD YA LOUZY GIT! LET ME INTERDUCE YOU TO ME CHOPPA!

>>51989816
the necrons are meant to look like polished lapis with gold filigree, my lychguard and praetorians being converted to resemble ushabti, still working on some conversions, now thousand sons yet but I got plans to convert a curseling, and thinking something of a cobalt scheme with marble trim, any flesh marines and cultists will have red skin in tribute to magnus himself

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>>51989869
>goes to thailand
>inquires on the prices of plastic spacedudes

Deepstrike 3 squads of 3 crisis suits with 1 flamer, 3 fusion blasters and 2 burst cannons. Yes or no? Was trying to figure out the best way to make my suits more effective for games tomorrow night. I usually load then with twin linked missile pods and burst cannons but it feels so lackluster or they get targeted and wiped out before they use their full potential

>>51989905
You get tired of ladyboys eventually.

>>51989935
>tau
kys

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Rolled 5, 2, 6, 4 = 17 (4d6)

>>51989870
ROLL TER ATTACK YA WEEDY GROT

Do chaos cults have to worry about being infiltrated my genestealer cults or will the hive mind only target the Imperium?

>>51989963
The Hive Mind doesn't target shit when it comes to Genestealer Cults, they operate on their own.

Yes, they can definitely take over a Chaos cult. But the same can also happen in reverse, where a Chaos cult can supplant a Genestealer one. Sometimes the two will even intentionally work together in the short-term with the goal of undermining the Imperium, with both planning to betray the other afterwards.

>>51989957
OI DUN NEED TA ROLL TA KRUMP YA!
GET SUM YA STINKIN' PILE O' SQUIG DROPPINS!

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Rolled 1, 2 = 3 (2d6)

>>51989957

YA ONLY HIT 2 TIMES YA GIT

AN DEM 2 NEED TA ROLL TA WOUND TOO

I don't know what's more stupid... orks or their players

>>51990128
I love the humor though

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Rolled 5, 3, 6, 4 = 18 (4d6)

>>51989957
SKREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>51989726
I guess I'll have to copypaste your work anon. Just read your first pastebin, but it's well written and quite interesting.

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>>51990106
..YA OI KNEW DAT! WAT YOU FINK I'Z SUM KOINDA-

>>51990139
WAT DA ZOG!!

>>51989937

What are you, gay?

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>tfw wasted $100+ on WH40k: Freeblade, but actually had a lot of fun with it - Was a lot like if you just owned a digital animated imperial knight and fucked shit up
>lost all save data after uninstalling it for a few months including purchases
>game devs just say "sorry, can't get it back, bad luck dude :^)"

don't be an idiot like me anons

Should my Aspiring Champions get power swords or just CCWs?

>>51990292
Should have wasted $100+ on an actual knight

>>51990292
But anon, you can get almost everything there for free. The only bad thing are hackers imho, but sorry for the loss of your knight.

>>51990292
How do you spend $100 on a mobile game like that?

>>51990340
CCWs, there is no guarantee that your CSMs will ever get to close combat and you don't have enough attacks to really be sure of landing a hit.

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Just made this. Do you guys agree with it?

>>51990212
thank you, I plan on refining the necrons especially later on, make them less referenceriffic

>>51990408
I'd swap a few but it's still going in my meme folder

>>51990408
So much effort for so much wrong.

>>51990393

Was trying to farm rare paints and symbols for customization, plus high level gear

I rationalized it by saying to myself, it would be cheaper than having a real knight and more fun, because you got to see it do actual things in action

though if i knew their data shit was so unreliable I sure would not have done it

>>51990441
tau player detected

>>51990473
Necron masterrace, actually.

>>51990484
They will squat you once the Age of Emprah begins like what happened to Tomb Kings

>>51990408
Move Orkz above Dark Eldar and Necrons above Chaos

>>51990408
Why the fuck does everyone shit on Tau? Not every Tau player fields a bunch of Riptides you know, or did Fish of Fury scar your assholes that hard?

Any Vostroyan Firstborn guys here? How do you model a melta on them?

>>51990340
Lightning Claws. If they have to challenge, might as well make sure they'll kill whatever's in their way.

>>51990408
>IG
>le tanks are cool xD

>>51990563
Because they are braindead filth played by utter slugs

>>51989935
Crisis Suits are too versatile for there to be an answer. Just don't mix weapons, whatever you do.
It all depends on what you expect to see and what the rest of your list looks like.

Fusions for vehicles and MCs.
Plasma for MEQs, TEQs, and MCs.
Cyclic for blobs and light vehicles.

Think about your local meta and decide between those. Remember that at AP1, you don't need that many Fusions to pop a vehicle, whereas when it comes to hitting units you'll want volume.

Avoid Burst, Airfrag, and Missiles. They do well in their specific niches, but they're not allcomers. Flamers are only good for overwatch.

>>51987219
so wazbags blitz bike. if he turboboosts he can move 18".

that doesnt transfer to his unit i assume? so in reality he would only ever move 12?

>>51990563

Look at your own fucking post that's why

>>51990340
That depends on how aggressive you are with them; give raptors swords or dual LC's, Chosen pick whatever you like; power swords are only the best against meq's against anything else take the maul.

>>51989935
>>51990676
Oh, and don't ever invest in Twin-Linked unless you're going for Fusion Blades. Having two of a weapon is better than one twin-linked one.

>but it feels so lackluster
Because you're using Burst Cannons and Missile Pods. Twin-linked ones at that.

>or they get targeted and wiped out before they use their full potential
There are literally only two ways to use Crisis Suits
Either Jump-Shoot-Jump, meaning they should never actually get hit
or a suicide bomb, in which case they should completely wipe a unit before dying

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>>51988481
2e Codex: Chaos Space Marines says that it's Lion's sword. Sure, it's said by an in world person, but at least they believed it was Lion's sword. And that sword doesn't look that big for a Marine, let alone for a primarch.

>>51990408
My personal tastes differ but this is pretty solid overall.

>>51990441
Tau player dete-
>>51990473
Sonovabitch.

>>51990563
The Tau are aren't nearly grimdark enough for most 40k kiddies. They'll say otherwise (muh tau players and gameplay), but it's always been obvious.

>>51990563
Congratulations, you literally just contributed to making Tau players look like assholes and answered your own question.

>>51990563
I was there when they were first released. Tau players back then weren't liked either. There's something about Tau players that makes people annoyed. I think it's because Tau players are Nulls. Just looking at them makes you uneasy and want to hate them.

>>51990563
they are afraid of the BBC (BIG BLUE COCK)

>>51990898
>ayo where da white gue'vesa at
someone posted a black tau before and the replies killed me

>>51990891
It's because they're weebs. Weaboos make me feel embarrassed by proxy. Same feeling I get from steampunk

>>51990891
It's because it's a fucking weeaboo race that appeals to the worst kind of anime fans.

Not to say this is always true - I know a Tau player who I've been friends with since back in high school who's a totally chill dude and fun to play with - but it's true enough times that it's become the meme and shitting on Tau is just like a traditional pasttime on this board now.

>>51990939
Doesn't help that nobody can help themselves when it comes to tau bait.

>>51990934
>>51990939
Hivemind keeps happening.

If you're the same guy who posted the other Ork kek picture I might have to ask you out a date or something, no homo.

What's wrong with riptides anyway?

>"Ohno the weakest armies in the game have trouble killing them!"

You think removing riptides from the game is going to somehow make orks more competitive? You're a fuckinh idiot if you do.

Against mid and top tier armies 1 riptide (or 3 at 1850) is no problem and you know it.

Having a contingency for riptides is part of list building just like you have to include AA and AT in a succesful list.

Don't reply. I want to see how many take this b8

>>51990934
>>51990939
Outside of a borderline racist dub for their video game, there isn't really anything weeaboo about Tau, though.
Mechs aren't weeaboo, unless you're proposing every faction short of Tyranids are just as weeb.
They don't have samurai. They even hate close combat.
There's no bushido code or sense of personal honor. It's a caste system where everyone has an assigned job.
They're communists, not imperialists.
They don't do any of the anime tropes.
I genuinely don't understand what's even remotely weeb about them outside of GW paying a bunch of Japanese people to voice them.

>>51990934
>>51990939
At least half the people who post in this general are weeb faggots. I'm just gonna take a wild guess at the same time and say you could count the Tau players here on one hand.

Really makes you fucking think.

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>Dark Eldar player
>play vs necrons, 1500 points
>turn 2 he uses his praetorians squad of 3 to assault my talos
>end of turn 5, we're still going at it because lolrerollablereanimationprotocolsof4
>turn 3, send my incubi/archon squad against a squad of 8 warriors
>not only do they survive, he sends his warrior squad of 20 with his own warlord, that has furious charge thanks to my power from pain
>warlord one-shots my archon, who has a shadow field and the armor of misery

how the fuck do dark eldar beat necrons? I thought their weakness was melee but I got fucked up in melee. And why the FUCK don't dark eldar have a way to give their archon either eternal warrior or t4?

>>51991008
You're absolutely right, because if the Riptide by itself was such a star-spangled unit then Tau's winrate would reflect that. The only genuine complaint is more against the Formation and Allies system in 7th Edition, but people rarely ever actually call that out specifically. And it's not like the Riptide is the only tanky MC in the game; Wraithknights rarely get called out on here, and they even come stock with D weapons and an even more busted formation. Riptide hate isn't really supported by the numbers, it's just a meme to hate on Tau at this point and the Riptide is the low-hanging fruit.

There's actually a really simple test to see whether or not someone is retarded. Ask them what the strongest Tau unit is right now, and if they answer Riptide or Stormsurge, they've outed themselves as not actually playing the game.

>>51990408
>muh everymen Px

IG players pls go

>>51990563
Fish of Fury was never that strong, why do people pretend it was?

That feeling when I only want the cypher model but I only play xenos races. What do friends?

>>51991092
What is the strongest tau unit then?

>>51991092
Tau get more hate because they get more shitposters.

>>51991021
>Mechs aren't weeaboo, unless you're proposing every faction short of Tyranids are just as weeb.
There's a huge difference between the mechs of other races and the Tau's literal fucking Gundams and you know it.

>They don't have samurai. They even hate close combat.
A bunch of their aesthetics and language are drawn from Samurai and "wise Chinese general" cliches though. It's all Sun Tzu Said this and Be Patient, Grasshoppa that.

>There's no bushido code or sense of personal honor. It's a caste system where everyone has an assigned job.
A caste system, you mean like, Feudal Japan where peasants had their assigned jobs and warrior Samurai had their assigned jobs and so on? Also, honour blades, bonding knives, none of this ringing a bell?

>They don't do any of the anime tropes.
You obviously haven't read much Tau fluff. It's literally all "Crisis suit drops behind you, unsheathes plasma rifle, psht nothin personnel kid".

>>51991021
Their visual design is clearly inspired by samurai and anime mecha. Anyone who says otherwise is retarded or intellectually dishonest.

>>51991109
Some people played melee races, check your gunline privilege faggot.

>>51991021
Tau don't have mechs.

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As a raging weeb I see nothing in common with Tau. If anything it would be Eldar due to their katana like swords and their aspect codes. Even that would be a stretch.

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As always, feedback is appreciated.

No, this isn't official.

>play tau
>fat white nerds spout racist memes of tau at me
>most of them dont even know me
why is this community so retarded? I wish it was legal to assault these morons. Show them what real melee combat is.

>>51991207
Don't forget the Evangelion twin pilots reference

>>51991240
>Obvious Imperium loser falseflag

D-Damn those commie weebs!

>>51991207
Eldar also clearly drew influence from samurai but they did it more tastefully and hidden behind an obfuscating layer of fantasy elf culture.

Tau are literally "Tao" as in "The Tao of War, Proud Generic Asian Miritary, Very Good At Carcuration And Superior Technorogy From The Far Garactic East"

>>51991207
dont forget the literal shuriken launchers

>>51991240
you are a real tough guy

im literally shaking

>Tfw you run Gue'vesa, kroot blobs, vespids and railsides
>Go to new LGS in area and get eye rolls when they asked what i play
>Get the 'greater good in hell, fishfag' online when i try to discuss it
Life is suffering

>>51991240
I can completely picture you brooding in your fedora and trenchcoat muttering to yourself like a faggot about how you would totally cut those guys in half with your authentic katana

Please keep going

Are there any more videos about Genestealers Fluff? Damn, it's so good. Anything except codex+shadow over immaterium?

>>51991300
If your Codex gets nerfed next edition you might get a little less shit, but Tau are always going to be the favorite race for the fanbase to shit on for so many reasons.

So I'm getting back into 40k after a long break playing 30k instead, I have a couple of babby questions.

Is 1500 or 1750 a better starting point limit just for casual games?

How much is too much to spend on a space marine captain?

How important is AA in 40k?

Would it be better to put a captain, emperor's champion and 5 assault termies in a LRC or a stormraven, keeping in mind that I'm trying to go fluffy without crippling myself?

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>>51991207
*teleports behind you*

>>51991336
Like the fact that even if they're 100% balanced to play against they're not fun to play against?

>>51991315
There's a short story and a novel that were published around the time the Codex came out about Genestealer Cults. There's the older stuff in 2nd edition. Somewhere in an old supplement (maybe cityfight?) you might dig up the Ichar IV fluff about Ultramarines fighting the largest Cult in 40k history in the Hive Cities.

Anyone have any idea if I can find the Ciaphas Cain books online? In PDF or ePUB form?

Thanks

>>51991359
Let's not pretend they're 100% balanced but they can be fun to play against if it's the right list.

>>51991358
FOOL!
*appears through floor* your crimes won't go unpunished! *control body jutsu* it's about time you commit sudoku.
*you commit sudoku* *walks away with fedora covering face*
didn't stand a chance

>>51989524
If you want staying power on the battlefield, going for standard IG or even Krieg is a pretty good idea. If you're worried about MC spam, grab a Knight or two and wreck face.

>>51991223
Why haven't you killed yourself yet?

>>51991387
EVEN IF they were 100% balanced, they're definitely front loaded when it comes to the level of play the vast majority of people engage in. And yes it can be fun with certain lists, but for the majority of people it's just boring as fuck to play against.

>>51991092
that's because eldar faggots know that their faggots. They don't pretend that their entire Codex is bullshit. Meanwhile Tau fags scream and wail every time someone calls them remotely powerful

>>51991408
Why would I? Shitposters gonna shitpost, and I have gotten positive and constructive feedback before.

>>51991189
Played Orks and World Eaters. A Was weaker than T'au has been since.

>>51990563
>tfw group of close friends decide to make a 1500 point slow grow for the new year
>friend A decides to do imperial guard
>friend B decides to do Black Templars
>friend C decides to do tau and takes two riptides and four broadsides
>at 1500 points
>nah guys it's totally cool for casual play

>>51991305
That would be fantastic if I looked like what you imagined but I actually lift. like one of the 2 guys that play WH40k here that arent scrawny or fat trash

>>5199109

Oh look another Taufag who talks bullshit because he doesn't even glance at GT results

Fact: Tau outplaced C:SM in LVO 2017
Fact: Even Eldar ally Riptide Wings

These are INDISPUTABLE FACTS. Anyone who says Tau "don't do well at actual tournaments", "don't actually have results showing their OPness", and "Riptides aren't even OP" are complete fucking idiots.

>>51991584
>using GT results to determine army balance
>implying tau aren't much, much scarier in casual play than they are at top level

Are stompas good?

>>51991635
Only Buzgob's Budget Stompa, sadly.

>>51991076
You stand back and out run their slow asses and weigh them down with fire.

>>51991680
Necrons aren't really slower than anyone else. It's range that you need.