Does anyone else feel like these games have ruined their life?

>>51976426
You would have found something else to use to avoid bettering yourself. Nobody else to blame but you.

>>51976426
>i'm totally not at fault and not responsible for my life turning to shit.

>>51976426
Seriously, start working to better yourself rather than finding excuses.

>>51976426
No.

You are the problem.

>>51976426
If you legitimately live with your parents at 30 years old with only a part time job, you're not an adult. I'd be disappointed.

>>51976426
The one unifying factor in all of your failures is you, and it also happens to be the one you have the most control over.
If you got screwed by bad luck, you got screwed and have to pick up from where you left off. If you get screwed by 'bad luck' all the time, something else is likely at play.

>>51976426
No.
Everything that happens to you is your own fault. Blaming anything external is a falsitude that you use to delude yourself. You have known that you have a problem for years, but you either never did anything to get yourself help or you never followed through with whatever treatment they tried help you with.
No matter what happens, it's your own fault and you deserve the consequences.

>>51976426
>30, not virgin
>own apartment
>overweight but going to the gym
>full time job
>playing games since I was 12, still doing it

You're the problem OP. Get off your ass and stop making excuses

>>51976426
If it wasn't DnD, it would've been vidya or animu. You blew your chances, not the game.

>>51976426
pls no frogposting on /tg/. thank you.

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>>51976426
>Virgin at 30
>Live with parents
>Overweight
>Part-time warehouse job

>have mountains of DnD 3E books and Magic cards
>Magic cards

>>51976426
It's your own fault, don't blame the games for your failures.

>>51976426
Nah, your lack of willpower and pathetic excuse making is what caused your life to go to shit. You can still play DnD and have a job and workout. Hell my DM plays two other games and still works out and makes time for real life shit. You literally have no excuse. and I make time for classes all week and work out while playing DnD

>>51976426
>Happily married with a daughter at 28
>Stable government job with a pension
>Honorable discharge from the military
>Got a free degree
>Live in Hawaii

I started playing when I was 13 years old. Maybe that one year makes all the difference.

>>51976426
>25
>moved out
>paying rent (god it's awful)
>can't cook anything more complex than breakfast food (eat out constantly, 1.2 meals a day)
>not really doing work I want, but they were willing to hire me, the fools
>somehow doing the best out of my hometown friends (barring the one who's studying chem still)
>somehow doing the eeeh, I guesssss best out of my college friends
>play games regularly and remain lonely
>saving money because nothing motivates saving for retirement like having a job you don't like
>deathly terrified of moving back in with dysfunctional family and 37 yo brother

>>51976621
>Simple, polite request to refrain from frogposting.
I have literally never seen this in all my years on 4chan.
Kudos.

>>51976426
>I was a pretty normal kid
If this was ever true, it still is.
Unfortunately, children often make for poor adults.

Nope.
>29
>Wife and I are planning on having a baby next year
>Live in a nice apartment
>Overweight, but figuring out a routine
>Office job
>Been playing vRPGs since grade school
>playing ttRPGs since early college
>Getting a group back together now that everyone's schedules are synced up again

>>51976426
It's never too late to start, OP.

Eat right 2/3 meals a day, go for an hour long walk every day, stop frogposting. Develop some non /tg/ interests so you can keep up a socially acceptable conversation about something other than the weather. Keep at it.

Or lower your standards and hit some tinder, or weeab/nerd/weirdo specifics dating sites.

Also it's anecdotal but nigger Alan rickmen didn't start his activist career til 40. If you want it badly enough you can improve your life while still doing /tg/ stuff on the side

>>51976426
Any fags trying to lose weight in this thread, it's pricey and cringed and then meetings are group-thinly, but I recommend weight watchers. I have consistently lost a pound a week for 3 months. Starting slow down but I've almost lost my ponch

>>51976426
No OP.

You can't keep blaming your problems that you can't control. It's not the shitty board games, your choice in career or your parents. Everything wrong with your life is just you.

What else is there to say OP?

>>51976426

best way to be a gamer is to not over-do it.

do what you like
fuck peer pressure
be unafraid to be unpopular in the nerd circles.

your life will be better.

>>51977268
What this anon said.

Focus on what you *can* do, and work with that. Fuck lofty goals. The only thing you are should have in mind is your current step, and the one after that. Life is organic, it grows and adapts, and so will you. Success is less about skill and more about determination and consistent output, and when you look at it like that, nature makes a whole lot more sense. If the grass and the trees ever gave up the ecosystem would be fucked, but despite all the one-sided shit that goes on, they keep coming back. Think about that the next time you see one, and be inspired by their example.

>>51976426
No, that's just you being a failure at life, nothing to do with the games

>be a total weeb
>be into warhamm
>after school get a shitty job so I can live on my own
>start spending on plastic tiny men
>keep getting better at paiting
>get noticed at LGS
>few months later they need new eployee at LGS
>get new job related to hobby
>better salary and something I enjoy
>find a qt3.14 GF at malifaux into game I was running

actually games made my life 9000 times better

>>51976426
>started playing MTG at 10yo and warhams at 12yo
>now fit
>nice job as research engineer
>have my own place in the nicest area of the city
>qt gf
Arguably the last part is the most complicated of all

>>51976426
>Overweight
How do lazy people get fat anyway? I got skinny since I was too lazy to eat more than I absolutely had to.

>>51978130
Not enough willpower to stop eating and too much of a lazy sack of shit to exercise

>>51976933
I never knew Brady came in so many shapes and forms.

Truly amazing.

>>51976426
You ruined your own life, you pathetic, virginal, stay at home trash.

The fact you need to blame inanimate objects that are wholly subservient to your whims on your disgusting failures is only more evidence of this.

Kill yourself.

>>51976426
The problem's with you and your parents, you can turn it around though. Start going to >>>/adv/.

>>51977348
>not his parents
Retard.

>>51976426
>Be me, be 22
>Just finished Culinary school and moved home
>Hired near instantly at upscale 4-star hotel as line cook
>Its winter moving to spring, hours are low but its alright
>Looking for work a state over and then moving in early summer with skills and degree
>Overweight but controlling my eating better cause I have the money to not just eat Ramen Yes I know I went to school to make food but good food is expensive
>Already lost five pounds only eating right, but dealing with insomnia cause weird ass dynamic schedules
>Playing with a gaming group I played with before I went to College, they are all well adjusted adults with good jobs and familys, I am almost half most of their ages
>I know a trade, have job prospects all over the US, pay can only get higher for me as I add more skills to my repertoire
Inb4 broke ass post college student is broke

>22
>currently living in parents basement
>had moved out but moved back in because it was cheaper and let me save money for the future
>not overweight, but I am out of shape (havent worked out seriously in a long time)
>no girlfriend
>few friends (my social skills are shit. I'm not a sperm or anything, just introverted)
>Going to Uni. Get mostly A's but I slack off.
>quit my job cause I got a better offer, but that fell through so I'm currently unemployed

Am I pathetic /tg/? I worry I am some times. It just feels like I waste so much time doing stupid shit (like coming on this fucking site actually....) and I'm worried I'll end up that fucking basement dwelling grognard. All the guys I know are getting married and shit and I'm just spinning my wheels it feels like.

>>51978298
at least you aren't 24, living with your parents and trying to finish your exams to reach uni.

And I feel like I will never grow up when I see school kids being taller than me.

>>51978341

Height really doesn't matter. Of course I probably have no right to say that, cause I'm a nice average 6 feet and change, but some of the manliest men I know only come up to my shoulders. And 24 is still young, and at least your trying. My buddy he just sits on his ass and plays games all day. I want to pick him up and shake him and shout "If you don't get your ass in gear your gonna end up like your fucking brother in law. You wanna end up like that pathetic sack of shit?" But I know he'd respond negatively to that so I try to nudge him along as best i can. Doesn't fucking work though.

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>>51976426
DnD only made my life better. Made my friends and I closer, even got me to meet tons of new people. Has made me more creative and a better public speaker. All of my girlfriends I've ever had have been into it, or I got them into it, which lead to fun world building sessions or weird role play sex. Tabletop games have made my life better.
>pic realted, shitty pic I drew for a campaign.

>>51978298
>25
>Living on campus
>Skeltal, zero working out.
>No girlfriend And no interest in one either
>Few close friends
>Mostly As
>No job, since I worked for several years so I could go to uni without having to work at the same time.

Nothing wrong with living with parents if it's better financially and the location suits you.

>>51976426
>32 yo virgin
>renting a flat
>good job
>never played rpgs in my life
yup, games aren't the problem

>>51978467

Maybe it's just me but there's kind of a stigma about it in the community I live in. By the time your my age it's expected you be out and self sufficient. Preferably on your way to a family of your own. It's fucking weird I know. Everyone I know who didn't grow up here thinks it's bizarre, but it's how I was raised. I can't seem to help but feel like I'm a bit of a failure.

>>51976534

>going to the gym

You better be dieting too, friend.

>>51977129

Go on [s4s].

>>51978561
For what possible purpose?

>>51976426
35 marries with three kids.
Play D&D twice a month with the wife and some friends.
Forever DM.
Group only wants to play 4th ed. (Doesn't bother me too much)
Going to school to change careers using GI Bill.
Been a stay at home dad for the last 9 years and just want to get out of the house and earn a little money.

Listen OP, you're only 30. It's not too late to turn yourself around. It won't be easy, but you are worth fighting for. Set yourself a reasonable goal. You don't have to become a doctor or an engineer. Get some Microsoft certifications and do tech support. It's not glamorous, but it will get you a job you can live independently on. Don't give up on yourself and don't give in to self loathing. You're better than that and you can do it.
I believe in you.
Stop measuring yourself to what you think everyone else is doing.
Live for yourself.

>>51977032
You're me except
>27
>Rent apartment with friends
>just got a new car because old one shat out
>working dead end retail job
>but get to play vidya, magic, and DnD
>so not all bad

>>51977296
Good for you man, keep at it.
I've been doing the evening walk thing.
Sucks ass during the winter.

You know, it's nice to read about all the people who are doing pretty well for themselves.
Good on you mate.

>>51978705
Frankly I wish that less frogposters would play D&D so I wouldn't have to meet them. Get your shit together or get out of my hobby, you know?

>>51976426
Nope.
It's your own fault.

>>51976426
>26
>have a girlfriend
>full time job as a developer
>not overweight even if not too fit
>looking for an apartment to move with gf

Pretty much your fault OP. Stop being a faggot.

Delete 4chan and hit the gym, anon.

>>51976426
lol

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>>51976426
most of the tabletop gamers i know are married and have mortgages.

delete your frog folder and take responsibility for yourself.

>>51976426
Not at all. My life was complete shit to begin with, and the shittiness level doesn't correlate with my tabletop gaming at all.

Tabletop games ruined every other form of media for me. I will never get the amount of pleasure I get from roleplaying or painting miniatures and playing with them from anything else. Sure I can watch a film, read a book, or even play a video game. But the books and the films serve as inspiration for future DMing and the video games are nothing but a time waster in which I'd rather be wargaming or roleplaying.

Even when I'm not playing, I'm thinking about playing.

>>51976426
>blaming other people for personal shortcomings
DnD isn't the problem anon. It's time to wake up.

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>>51976426
I have found so many myriad things to distract me from living my life that I have at least developed the self-awareness that if it weren't for them, I would have found yet more things to distract myself.
Thus the only one to be blamed is myself. Childishly blaming the activities that have brought me joy would not drive me to perform more practical activities that do not bring me joy.

>>51977296
Weight Watchers works because its literally about portion control and moderation; the two things Americans are fucking terrible at. It's why all of our trendy diets are typically "X is not only making you fat, BUT IS THE ONLY REASON YOU EVER GET SICK. YOU CAN NEVER EAT IT EVER."

Telling someone that they can eat a burger every once and a while, so long as they primarily eat what's good for them makes them feel like their being patronized and told what to do.

>>51978298
Not at all; the difference between you and OP is that you're fully self-aware and admit to making logical choices that got you to where you are. Also, 4 year collage is all but a myth nowadays; 6 is pretty typical for a bachelors as more curriculum is shoved into degrees to give you a fighting chance against people who've been in the workforce since the late 50s/early 60s.

>>51976933
Please, more Bradyposting on /tg/. Thank you.

I think it's all kinds of amazing that every single poster so far has disagreed with the frogposter looking for ill earned sympathy, and told him that it's his own goddamn fault. I'm proud of you, /tg/!

>>51980339
True, but it is not too late for him to get his life together if he wants to.
Supposing that he is telling the truth about his situation and is not just making a thread for trolling purposes.
After all, who would come here to tell lies? On the internet of all places.

>>51978660
No car, and the job is IT- but I live in some godawful upscale place and pay >1500 for rent.

I swear there would be no point to life if I didn't have my friends/gaming group from college on a skype chat at pretty much all times of the day.

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>>51976621

>>51976426
Given the number of highly successful and well adjusted RPG players, I'm going to go with no.

>>51976426
I started playing role-playing games when I was in high school. Before that I spent most of my time reading or playing computer games, alone, and while I did have one friend, my social skills were shit. Now I have a bunch of friends, who I both game and do other things with, and while I'm hardly suave or charming, I have at least the basics of social competence down. I'd say that role-playing games have unambiguously improved my life. Oh, and I also got a degree and a job just fine, how the hell could games even interfere with that?

>>51976426
We are makers of our own fate. At least for the most part.
And out of all the things uncle could have done to you at the age of 12, DnD is far from the worst. By a long shot.

It's you OP.

I know because I'm close to your situation.

>Turning 29 tomorrow
>Didn't get my degree til I was 26
>Desperately wanted to go to Japan since I was 5
>Managed to fuck up every chance I ever had to do so, a total of 6 times.
>Can't seem to focus on anything
>Living with parents after I couldn't maintain a living in LA for a year
>At least I'm not a virgin?

It's me. It's my own fault, and it's your fault too. You may not be able to change yourself, but you have to at least try.

I tried and failed. Don't be like me. The only thing keeping me from killing myself is my dogs, and they're getting old.

That one anon is right about determination. According to Beth Israel Deaconess my IQ is over 150. Lot of good that's done me. It's entirely useless as I cannot be consistent to save my life, quite literally.

Don't be like me anon. I'm sure you've still got some chances left.

>>51980266
>six years for a Bachelor's Degree

What planet are you from? Three years is a Bachelor's degree. Six is like, a doctorate or some shit.

>>51982227
>According to Beth Israel Deaconess my IQ is over 150. Lot of good that's done me.
Should qualify you for Mensa membership. Which actually ain't a bad place for some networking for both employment and travel opportunities.

>>51982293
More like a master's degree. There are people who get their doctorate in six years, there are some people who get it in even less time, but something like eight years or more is more typical.

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>>51982293
I could see it if they're a part time student.
>>51982227
Don't worry, most things turn out alright in the end. Just keep working towards your goals one step at a time.

>>51976426
OP, do not blame your uncle. You control yourself, not him. The first step to fixing a problem is recognizing that you have one, now you just need to work towards fixing what you don't like.

While I know personal experience and anecdotes aren't the best for a persuasive argument, I am not overweight or pretty much anything you listed in your post and I've played games for years.

>>51982293
>>51982376
In terms of hiring opportunity, the priority is generally: nepotism > skill > degree
Unless you're aiming for a job in state administrative, that's : nepotism >>> degree > skill

>>51976426
That's about the same as me blaming all my inadequacies on the times I played with action figures as a kid.

>22
>Live in my own house
>GF lives with me. Met her through DnD.
>Normal weight.
>Full-time warehouse supervision job.

All of my closest friends I either met or bonded with through DnD. I have no trade or higher education, but got myself into a job that gives me as much money as I need to comfortably maintain my lifestyle just by being reasonable and respectable as a part-timer.

Me and GF are working on our artistic pursuits so that we can find better fulfillment that way. I'm a writer and she is an artist. We are thinking about making a porn game as a test run for future more serious projects.

Still playing DnD with some of my close group of longtime friends. Pulled a few of my coworkers into trying it out and play a separate campaign with them. 2 sessions total per week, when nothing goes wrong.

Lifes good and DnD is a large part of it.

>>51976426
>Almost 24
>Live in a decent apartment with a couple good roommates
>A bit overweight, but working on losing it
>Stable job with decent pay and great health benefits
>Still play vidya practically every day and tabletop twice a week
>Actually helps keep my depression at a managable level

>>51976426
Have you sought psychiatric treatment for depression? I was a 30 year old NEET but I started therapy/medication and now live on my own

>>51976426
My life's shit too, must be because of the time my friend introduced me to the wonders of Monopoly. Ruined my life, man.

>>51976426

>Virgin at 30
>Live with parents
>Morbidly obese
>Part-time warehouse job

fixed for you

>>51976426
>virgin at 23
>did a undergrad degree, saved for two years living with parents, now doing a masters (partially as a way to leave home)
>chubby but exercise 2-4 times a week
>also in Naval Reserves along with doing my Masters
>play wargames 1-2 times a week and roleplay 1-2 times a week

Nah, /tg/ is a great way to socialise and acts as a creative outlet. It certainly hasn't robbed me of my ambition or motivation.

>22, lost virginity at 17, one or two FWBs
>underweight 6'2" lanklet because defective organs
>literal autist with crippling social anxiety, chronic depression
>been at uni for five years but should be graduating this summer
>soul-destroying canvassing/fundraising job for charity
>keep going because heavily medicated, and friends and games distract me enough from the bad shit that I can function

No, these games are keeping me alive.

>>51982442
True that.

>>51976426
So maybe go work out, get a job, and stop nerding more than 1 night a week. Maybe meet someone your sexually attracted to and ask them to dinner once you have worked out for a bit and got a job.

>one upon a time I was me
>be 27
>been into warhams since 20
>army assembling at glacial pace
>live with family
>crappy McDonald's job
>not giving up
>taking busness classes to start own LGS
It took a while but it's making me want to turn around

>>51976426
My life isn't perfect, I'm fast approaching wizard status myself. However, RPGs got me through my darkest time. I don't think that's indicative of them being healthy or bad though.

At the end of the day, my problems are the result of my choices. For me, DnD helps me stay sane as I battle the real problem that I have as a result of my choices, an addiction to video games. But for you, DnD and MtG may have sunk your life. So choose to get rid of it.

lol @ this turning into a brag about your shitty bugworld life thread

>>51978389
>6 feet and change
>average

anon..

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>>51976426
You dont have an adaquet balance between:

Work
Play
Self Managment (I.e. being fit, health etc.)

Not sure how D&D has effected my life, but I'll give a summary:
>23
>6 figure salary at full time fairly demanding job
>live alone in apartment
>run 5 miles a day
>have to see a psychiatrist regularly for paranoia, depression, and anxiety to reassure family
>refuse medication
>massive degenerate who indulges in degenerate activity
>GM every other sunday for group of college friends
>play every wednesday for group I found online
>contemplate suicide constantly
>feel better after screaming for 20-30 seconds in the shower after returning from the gym

>>51985253
Sounds like a shitty american psycho desu senpai

>>51985253
Friendly reminder that those who have considered suicicde should do it, finally end it all.

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>>51985353
>Consecutive 53s
>Mentioning le doubles man
I don't have a Bateman smug enough for this.

>>51985410
I mostly don't because I have stuff to do.

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>>51976426
Other than weight, your life is absolutely top.

If you want to sell those 3.5 books and MTG cards, contact me through d7.

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>26
>Live with parents
>Want a little girl so bad but intimidated by the idea of getting screwed by a dude and the pain of giving birth
>No driver's license
>Dead end job sitting in an office transcribing medical stuff
>Main social activities are board game night and roleplay on IRC

>>51985751
Why not just adopt?

>>51985751
>intimidated by the idea of getting screwed by a dude
Are we talking literal screwing or figurative screwing here that intimidates you?

>>51976426

These games didn't ruin my life, they improved it.

Tabletop RPGs are the reason I am a functional and successful adult now. I'm an aspie, and when I was younger (and didn't really know what that meant yet) shit was pretty bad for me. School was a nightmare of bullying so bad that I faked illnesses (to stay home and not deal with that shit) so often that my parents took me to see a doctor because they thought there was something seriously wrong with me. The root cause of my problems was that I didn't understand how other people worked, all my attempts to make friends just alienated people, and whenever I got frustrated I would have severe malfunctions because I couldn't deal with it.

Tabletop RPGs forced me to improve my social skills in order to play, but also forced me to improve my organizational skills to schedule the group and hold the campaign together, which made me less likely to get into situations that would cause meltdowns in the first place because I got better at handling shit.

RPing as my characters taught me how to better get inside the headspace of people who were not me, which when I applied to real people helped me understand what of my behavior was getting me into trouble and how to avoid it. I basically trained myself to 'roleplay' as a normal person until it became second nature, and I almost never 'break character' anymore.

On top of that, while not the best RPG system in the world DnD 3.5 is an object oriented data structure built on stochastic algorithms and if/else/while logic. Leaving to code in java was a breeze compared to playing a wizard with three prestige classes, and now I make good money writing shitty code for a living.

None of which, I suspect, would have come about if I didn't get into tabletop rpgs.

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>>51985751
pain of giving birth hurts less than pain of being a retard and sperging out while trying to socialize with people and not knowing what to do because you're not normie

mfw

>>51985804
Hear, hear. TTRPGs are an inherently social activity. Some people can fuck them up and fail to learn anything from them, but as a general rule, they are a pretty great way of socializing.

>>51985751
>26
you've got 4 years, join a church and find a decent man

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>>51985769

I don't think single people can adopt. And I like the idea of having a mini-me.

>>51985802

Both tbqh

Cease to exist, frogposter.

>>51985804
this is how it plays out in special cases. mostly it doesn't function, just like 3.5 rules, and that's why I always played hack n slash style

>to code in java was a breeze compared to playing a wizard with three prestige classes

total fucking assburgers

did you get panic attack when not playing properly?

I once told DM to stuff it when he told me I couldn't drink 2 potions at the same time

This thread started out awful, and somehow got worse.

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>>51985842

Sometimes I go into the back of the neighborhood Episcopal church to listen to the music. Very nice architecture too. Catholic-y design but pleasant earthtones instead of gaudy gold paint everywhere.

What are some /tg/ approved churches?

>>51985845
>I don't think single people can adopt.
Assuming you come form 1st world country, the common procedure is arranged fake marriage with foreigner. They get citizenship, you get "hubby" to pose with before the social services to approve your adoption. You can divorce shortly after and claim full care of the child.

On the other hand - I'm not sure what's the social politic of your country of residence, but generally speaking getting into parenting without spare income and some financial reserves is the kind of courage that's bordering with idiocy.

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>>51985898
East Orthodox - gaudy gold paint4lyfe, cyka!

>>51985898
tradcatholic and orthodox if you can tolerate it
mormon / evangelical are the only other ones where it won't just be a bunch of grannies and I honestly can't recommend them

a conservative aglican or norvus ordo catholic church could be good you'd have to visit to see, most are lukewarm and unsatisfying

>>51976426
to be honest, these games are the last connection between me and human society
eventually this thin thread will be severed, and I think I'll just retract in my cocoon until I can ascend to the 2D universe

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>>51985898

Catholics: Depends on the diocese. Currently cucked by Liberal pope.

Orthodox: Best. The ones with Egyptians/Armenians/Russians/Greeks etc all together tend to have some really nice food and cultural events.

Methodists: Judging based on the quality people I know, probably the best liberal Christians.

Baptists and Christians who claim to be nondenominational: Crazy, clique-y, no sense of ritual. Obsessed with memorizing Bible verses but no real understanding of their context or history/theology.

Lutherans: Depends on Synod

Episcopal: Used to be the denomination of business-owners and politicians and very respectable despite its tawdry origins. Recently became cucked.

United Church of Christ, Unitarians: Cuck overdrive

Mormons/Adventists/Christian Scientists: Alex Jones tier lunacy

>>51985898
I wouldn't recommend Catholic, coming from a lapsed Catholic. You'll never escape the guilt, it will be there forever.

>>51986091
Dude, you are so on point about Baptists. They also obsess a bit more on the negative aspects, like the whole burning in hell, instead of the forgiveness and turning the other cheek and all that.

>>51986114
nice meme

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>>51986091

>Religions that aren't at odds with modern society and refuse to use vulnerable minorities as punching bags
>SO KEKED

Honestly, wtf is going on lately? All but one of my atheistbros have joined churches and it's suddenly cool to be a right wing bigot again? Even in geek/gamer circles?

>>51986114
Translation: I went to Sunday school in a Novus Ordo church, never believed but went through the sacraments because my parents wanted me to, know nothing about the faith and think in sitcom and cinema memes

>>51986172
Not even meming, my dude. Every time I say I'm not sure I believe in God anymore, I always go "but what if there is a hell?" The whole idea of confession really does help hammer it home. We can go admit our sins, yes, but we always think that we've done something.

>>51986240
confession exists so that you may take the eucharist not in mortal sin, most churches dont even offer confession anymore

im highly skeptical this is based on personal experience and not just a meme

>>51986222
>>51986263
Nah, baptized, communion, confession, the works. Just a lot of stuff made me lose my faith, but the guilt is still there. It's hard to believe when the few people in your life keep dying young.

>>51976426
Nah, they were probably my greatest comfort during my childhood even though I never really got a chance to play

I actually wish I had been more into them because then I might have found a social circle

>>51986240

Hell's a really powerful idea. Even though it's obviously a scare tactic and the moral equivalent of setting a toddler on fire for stealing some gum, I can't help but think it might be real.

t. Skeptic raising his daughters to be Christian because he doesn't want them growing up around bitter nihilist atheists or missing out on cozy forest retreats and sunday school.

>>51986345
>t. Skeptic raising his daughters to be Christian because he doesn't want them growing up around bitter nihilist atheists

Raising children to be "Christian" without catechesis is just handing them to the fedora brigades that will offer them cheap social praise for denouncing something they never knew in the first place.

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>>51985898
>What are some /tg/ approved churches?
A burned out one!

>>51986272
>went through the sacraments because my parents wanted me to, know nothing about the faith and think in sitcom and cinema memes

Glad we're on the same page.

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>>51986345
>its another "im too fucking retarded to learn philosophy beyond what hollywood dribbles before me and i believe that a life without god leads to nihilism" episode

You do realise that nihilism can only exist among religious people? Atheist people cannot be nihilists. They can in the worst case be pessimistic existentialists.

Nihilism is EXPLICITLY described by Nietzsche as what happens to a jew, christian or muslim when he or she realises that there is no god, and the foundation of their entire enslaved existence has no basis in reality.

>>51986400

>Vargposting

Scandinavia is a good example of why liberalizing religion is a bad idea. The state religion is the most liberal strain of Lutheranism imaginable and the region still produces militant atheists and angry black metal church burners.

People want to be told what to do and don't respect religions that compromise. The Muslims realize this.

>>51986444
>muh neet-che
>he or she
>enslaved existence

(You)

>>51986421
Dude, you can't go to church your whole life, recite the prayers on a whim and not know about the faith. I still live my life by the teachings, and I talked to my priest about my loss of faith. But I find it hard to believe in a higher power nowadays, and that weighs heavily on me.

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>>51986381

What should I do, though? I mean, we say grace, pray before bed, they do Sunday school, etc.

>>51986480
Read the bible, and pray the rosary until the fedora voice of idolatrous ego is silenced. Repent, faith not acts makes man whole.

>>51986494
I think the most important thing is to actually transmit the faith not the cultural trappings around it. Don't try to save your children when you haven't saved yourself. Kids aren't stupid and can tell when you're giving them another Santa Claus.

It might still work but I'd be concerned more with their actual faith than whether they are properly socialized in good bourgeois manners.

>>51986508
Well, it's the second day of lent, we'll see how I do.
>>51986494
Focus on the positive aspects of religion, instead of negatives. That way, even if they do have a crisis of faith, they still have those teachings to lean on. Faith can make someone a better person.

>>51985813
This, it's a pain you suffer for a tiny bit of your existence while being akward in front of people is a pain that will leave a scar in your soul forever

>>51976426
The fault is your own. Start bettering yourself, man. Seek out discomfort, constantly. That's the only way to become better. You can do it, you're fucking young still.

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29 & Married
1 kid and surrounded by friends and family
Phlebotomist and EMT Certification
Working towards RN, then CRNA
Shitty but comfy 3 room, 2 bath
Play D&D twice a week (forever DM)
Its an excuse to do my actual hobby
miniature modeling (Pic related)
Came to this country without even knowing the language and now I might get a PhD after all.

>>51986508
>faith not acts makes man whole.
Faith without action is fake and hollow one. Ora et labora.

>>51986240
i remember that when i was a kid i just kinda rejected the idea of hell, i just couldn't believe people can be tormented for all eternity for being, well, human. Especially since Christ seemed like a nice guy who wants to give another chance, and another, and another, and another, until you live your life good.
my dad is a Buddhist, might be why i think so

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>>51976426
I can't stand my daily NEET life any longer. I have infinite freetime, yet I don't have the energy to do anything with it. I just sit in this room browsing 4chan and listening to music almost 24/7. It is an absolutely hellish existence. No one to talk to, nothing worth doing, just meaningless hour after meaningless hour, watching my life crumble apart. I'm pretty sure prison would be me more worthwhile than this, at least I'd get some social interaction.

I fucking WISH I could still play tabletop.

>>51986676
And acts without faith is even hollower. To someone who is an apostate and thinks "being nice" or doing ritual of faithful practice are worth anything this is just an excuse to continue to parody true faith. Don't let context get in the way of a blind swipe at protestants though, right?

What's with all the god-botherers suddenly?
Raise your children with a faith in human compassion and ability, and to be moral for moralities sake, not out of love and fear of some mystic skybeing.

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>>51986793

The edgy atheism thing seemed cool and daring in the early 00's but now it's just gauche(fedoras, flying spaghetti monster, etc are treated as jokes).

Revival is coming soon.

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>>51986793
>moral for moralities sake

>>51986793
>Raise your children with a faith in human compassion
When you put it like this the omnipotent supervisor of mankind's ways actually begins to sound like more plausible alternative.

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>Revival is coming soon.

Yep. Everyone I know who has had children realized how hollow materialism is and have gotten interested in religion again. There's nothing like having another human being dependant on you to make you want to preserve family traditions and make you wonder who is living next door and what their values are like.

All of the atheists and "childfree" people I know are completely miserable. Why would I want to emulate them.

We're also seeing the rejection of Globalism across the world. People have had enough of forced integration, constant attacks on their culture, degeneracy, and shitty free trade deals that have wrecked the economy.

>>51977019
>live in hawaii

I'm so sorry

>>51986852
This thread with lots of people valuing /tg/ as a method to socialise is an example of human beings social nature. To properly work in such social environment compassion, friendship and sympathy are necessary, but this does not mean that those qualities are somehow rendered trite by their necessity.
Whilst there are multitudes of examples of human cruelty there are multitudes of examples of human kindness.

>>51986203
everyone realized Richard Dawkins had nothing intelligent to say and that he was just a very prolific shitposter. Now that fedoras have been memed into the fucking ground people feel comfortable talking about their religious communities again.

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>>51976426
First /pol/, now /rk9/? What's next, /b/?

>>51977019
Any advice? I'm working my way there right now. Thinking about army 12B and I'm still waiting on my autism waiver.

>>51986091

Okay, so I've met this perfect girl. Likes fantasy/sci-fi, pretty, no baggage. She also wants at least 4 kids and I have a prego fetish... so yeah.

But I'd have to convert to Mormonism to be with her. Should I do it?

>>51987062
read "the refiners fire" and then decide so you know what you're getting in to

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>>51977019
>Live in Hawaii

Why the fuck would you choose that...?

>>51986956
Wealth for the sake of wealth is a hollow idol indeed.
Wealth as a mean and measure of power still has its place. And perhaps always will.

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>>51976426
Don't listen to them, it was going to turn out this way no matter how hard you tried.

Embrace the inevitable.

>>51980910
>>51986645
>implying it's not too late

You get one chance.

>>51986956
If you're always miserable, you can't be disappointed.

>>51987869
>if you don't succeed by 30 your life is over

is this what kids believe these days?

>>51987923
If a man's nature is such that he has still failed by then, what could possibly change it for the better?

What are some good non-/tg/ hobbies?

>>51988470
Hiking and lifting.

>>51986840
This really is how it works to many people on 4chan. If religion becomes the cool and edgy anti-conformist side, they're going to become religious.

>>51976426

My friend found her husband through DnD. I think you're just a failure.

>>51976426
>Warhammer from age 5

I never had a chance tbqh.

>>51976426

Nope, in fact they have demonstrably made my life better.

>Homeschooled all through middle and high school
>loves the vidya
>no friends, home all the time, only social interaction is cybering with lonely canadian girls and xbox live.
>pick up Dawn of War, love it to peices
>pick up 40k, fails to convince acquaintances to do the same
>have to go to a gaming store a half hour away, which is normal for where I live in the world.
>actually make a few friends, still socially autastic
>go to college, make tons of friends over games of Munchkin, shitty D&D/Dark Heresy campaigns and Magic.
>said friends become lifeline when family falls apart due to
>living with two nerd ass roommates, 25, still autastic but can fake it enough to be successful at a marketing/sales job.

Still technically a virgin though. Also overweight and can only grow a neckbeard. But those are the results of choices/events unrelated to games.

D&D didn't make you suck, you made you suck