Can you fine gentlemen recommend any Fantasy RPGs that have magic

>>51968958

Runescape, Burning Wheel and maybe OSR retroclones like "Adventurer Conqueror King", but with those you need to understand the design choices and well, there still can be this DnD creep but AFAIK lower.

So those 2 former titles are probably what you are looking for, but "Runescape" is very different and "Burning Wheels" need some serious reading through, so it might not be ideal.

>>51969146
I've found that I had a pdf of Burning Wheels, I've started reading and remembered why I forgot it. The mechanics of it sound interesting but it's so hard to read. I'm not finding an RPG called Runescape, dare I presume you meant Runequest?

>>51968958
>I'm super hyped because I'm fed up of sci fi and I want to run something Heroic and not morally ambigious

That's less on the setting or ruleset and more on the tone of the campaign and the antagonists you want to let the players face.
Make sure to tell this upfront to your players so they don't mistakenly create anti-heroes and ruin everyone fun.

>>51968958

Lord of the Rings.

You could easily modify Banestorm to remove the direct damage spells. Nothing would break.

I'm thinking about creating a low-magic system using Impulse Points in GURPS. The article in the new pyramid plus Power-ups Impulse Buys gives you a LOT of ammunition to make magic VERY powerful but non-flashy magic system.

Basically it's hard to find a setting that does it, but if you have a setting in mind, then there are plenty of systems which can support it.

>>51968958
Play 4e, use inherent bonus rules, don't let players be most Arcane or Divine classes.

>>51968958
So a fantasy game not built around wizards

Use gurps, run your favorite one in that

>>51968958
Fantasy Craft.
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>>51968958
D20 Conan.
GURPS.
Rolemaster.
CJ Carella's Witchcraft.
Warhammer fantasy roleplay.
Barbarians of Lemuria.

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>>51968958

GURPS

Fantasy Craft.

>>51970374
Sorry, I should have clarified. Certain systems lend themselves to a certain type of game, which is why I said in the OP that I didn't want to use WFRP, since the inherently high failure/mortality rate would put a damper on heroic endeavours.
>>51972311
I've never heard of banestorm, I'll look it up after work, cheers anon

The One Ring sounds like what you need.

>>51968958
Check out Fellowship. It's a pretty boss RPG that gives you guys a chance to make your own Lord of the Rings saga. Setting is crafted as you play.

You know you can just tweak whfrp2e's numbers?
Sorry, I'm a huge fanboy of that game and if you like it all but one aspect, ...

Alternatively the dark eye or midgard. We germans like our magic rare.

Or universal rpgs (fate, savage worlds, cypher, gurps,...)

>>51979363
Provide PDF fag

>>51979677
>I'm a lazy shitlord and can't go to the PDF archives.
Well that's all you had to say!

http://www76.zippyshare.com/v/kwFrF6eN/file.html

>>51968958
GURPS: Ritual Path Magic?

It's exactly what the title says. The magic is highly ritualistic and based on long preparations, rather than short spell and flick of fingers.

>>51979600
Adding ten to everything feels a bit like cheating, and I don't want to cheat on WFRP, I love it too much.

>>51981426
I suppose I'm long overdue to dip my toes in gurps, didn't know it had such precise splats.

>>51981449
That's literally THE best part of GURPS magic

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>>51983306
Listen to these fine niggas. Gurps is your best bet. You can write the exact fantasy setting you want right down to every minute detail.

>>51968958
Beyond the Wall is pretty good for "Young Adventurers leave their home village to make their mark on the world"

It's a b/x OSR game that uses a playbook chargen system to give each player a bit of unique backstory, while helping to flesh out their home village and the people who live in it.
It also helps to differentiate characters, so the "Would-be Knight" and the "Village Hero" might both have the warrior class, but they have different stuff that can happen to them in their playbooks.

Magic is divided into cantrips, spells and rituals.
Cantrips can be cast without limit, but require a skill roll or something goes wrong. They're also all pretty basic shit like magic light and talking to animals.
Spells are pretty vancian, but with a more mythic bent than most OSR games. The only direct damage spell is magic missle.
Rituals are for big stuff, everything from naming rituals and divining to fireballs.
They take 1*ritual level hours to cast, so they're very situational.
It's all got a very folklore feel to it, so you should check it out.
It also comes with scenario packs for making a first adventure on the fly, and the first expansion "Further Afield" has a pretty neat system for running ongoing campaigns

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forgot pic

>>51968958
There's actually a lot of good recommendations already in the thread, so I'll throw in another one even though it's kind of obscure.

Hackmaster 5th edition might be exactly what you're looking for.

>>51968958
Alternate choice, go with a purely narrative system like ... In Spaaace!, Wushu, The Anti-pool, or whatever and simply state that magic has subtle effects.

>>51968958
I'm planning to do this, hopefully before long, and I think I'll be going for GURPs.

>>51986041
>>51986068
This sounds really nice, I'll have to try and remember this.

>>51989296
As an OSRfag, I would say that the best thing about OSR is how easy it is to steal from each other. Or to take the good bits from the RPGs you like.

I'm also a massive Traveller-fag, and Traveller is built off stealing shit from people smarter than you
I can say with no doubt, there's no shame in intellectual theft

>>51968958
Burning Wheel, although the system is pretty bad and combat is extremely complicated and ultra lethal.

A Song of Ice and Fire roleplay. Also not a great system, but manageable and it can be a pretty dun world. Biggest problem is the weirdly unrealistic character generation.

Running the World of Darkness system in a more traditional fantasy world. Other than removing guns and adding some armor, you'd need to change very little.

You can also do this with any genereric system. FATE if you like meta narrativist games. Savage Worlds if you like tactical combat. GURPS if you like pedantic levels of detail.

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>>51986041
Bit late on the conversation, but thanks for mentioning this. I've been looking through the free files and it seems right up my alley.

Personally I'd like to see a game based around The Belgariad simply because of the way magic functions in the setting, but it'd be a bit difficult to figure out how to scale everything

>>51970106
I presume he meant RuneQuest. RQ works, but isn't hyperfocused on high heroics out of the box. You can easily tweak it that way if you want to. The old Stormbringer-game is pretty nifty too for your concept.