How would you rank the members of the following MTG cycles?

>>51959479

A) Fire/Ice>Feast/Famine>War/Peace>Body/Mind>Light/Shadow

B) Ravine>Colonnade>Tar Pit>Wildwood>Lavaclaw

C) Vent>Quagmire>Falls>Fumarole>Spires

D) Kolaghan's>Atarka's>Dromoka's>Ojutai's>Silumgar's

E) Prime>Sun>Grave>Inferno>Frost

F) Bluehulk>Greenhulk>Blackhulk>Whitehulk>Redhulk

G) Garruk>Jace>Liliana>Ajani>Chandra

H) Daretti>Teferi>Freyalise>Nahiri>Ob

I) Jace>Nissa>Kytheon>Liliana>Chandra

fire/ice>feast/famine>light/shadow>war/peace>body/mind
colonnade>all others
fumarole>all others
kolaghans>dromoka>atarka>ojutai>silumgar
primetime>sun>grave>inferno>frost
torrential>verd>cata>noxious>combustible
jace>vess>garruk>ajani>chandra
daretti>teferi>nahiri>freyalise>ob
jace>lili>nissa>kytheon>chandra

>>51959479
Fire/Ice > Body/Mind = Feast/Famine > Light/Shadow > War/Peace

Colonnade >> Ravine > Tar Pit >> Wildwood = Lavaclaw

Wandering Fumarole > Shambling Vent > Hissing Quagmire >= Lumbering Falls > Needle Spires

Atarka's = Kolaghans > Dromoka's = Ojutai's >> Silumgar's

Primeval Titan >> Sun Titan > Inferno Titan > Grave Titan = Frost Titan

Torrential = Verdurous > Noxious >> Cataclysmic = Combustible

Gook > Ajani = Liliana > Jace >> Chandra

Daretti >= Teferi > Nahiri = Freyalise > Ob

Baby Jace >> Liliana >= Nissa > Kytheon >>>>> Chandra

r8 and h8

>>51959479
In terms of Legacy play:

A) Fire/Ice is the only one that matters

B) and C) If it aint Mishra's Factory, it's irrelevant

D) What are those?

E) Titan who?

F) Gearhulks??? Uh...what?

G) Well, none of these are named Jace the Mind Sculptor or Liliana of the Veil, so they don't matter.

H) Neither do these.

I) Or these.

>>51959479
Some of these depend on the format a lot, for example body and mind is garbage in constructed but ends the game in one hit in cube, raging ravine is great in modern but way shittier than tar pit in legacy, etc.

A) Fire/Ice > Feast/Famine > War/Peace > Light/Shadow > Body/Mind

B) Colonnade > Tar Pit > Ravine > Wildwood > Reaches

C) Shambling vent > hissing quagmire > wandering fumarole > lumbering falls > needle spires

D) Kolaghan > Atarka > ojutai > dromoka > silumgar

E) Primeval > Sun > Inferno > Grave > Frost

F) Torrential > Verdurous > Cataclysmic > Noxious > Combustible

G) Garruk > Jace > Liliana > Ajani > Chandra

H) Daretti > Teferi > Freyalise > Nahiri > Ob Nixilis

I) Jace > Nissa > Liliana > Gideon > Chandra

>>51960705
Have you ever played legacy? War/peace and light/shadow see some light sideboard play in stoneforge decks. Tarpit is played in shardless. Kolaghan's command sees play in some 4c midrange lists. Titans are definitely legacy playable, grave titan in reanimator, primetime in 12 post, inferno in monored sneak attack, etc. Also there are plenty of planeswalkers besides jace and lili that see legacy play.

Legacy is more than just miracles, storm, and delver

>>51960828
W/P and L/S see very little play. Most Shardless lists don't run Tar Pit, and most Reanimate lists don't run Grave Titan. 4C Midrange and Monored Sneak Attack are irrelevant. 12-Post is good but nobody plays it since it's way too expensive for what it is. And the 3rd most played planeswalker in Legacy, Chandra ToD, is played in just 2.2% of decks, with only one other Planeswalker, Nissa VF, that's even above 1%

>>51960828
12-Post? I'd I wanted a deck that costs as much as a nice car, I'd invest in Lands.

And people have tried other walkers (Dack, Ashiok, Nahiri, and most recently, new Chandra and Nissa), but they have all failed.

>>51959479
>A) The Sword Cycle
UR>BG>WB>WR>UG
>B) The Allied Manland Cycle
UW>UB>GW>GR>BR
>C) The Enemy Manland Cycle
WB>BG>UR>GU>RW
>D) The Dragonlord Command Cycle
Atarka>Kolaghan>Dromoka>Ojutai>Silumgar
>E) The Titan Cycle
Green>Black>White>Blue>Red
>F) The Gearhulk Cycle
Green>Blue>Black>White>Red
>G) The Lorwyn Planeswalker Cycle
Garruk>Liliana>Jace>Ajani>Chandra
>H) The C14 Planeswalker Cycle
Freyalise>Daretti>Teferi>Ob>Nahiri
>I) The Flip Walker Cycle
Jace>Liliana>Gideon>Chandra>Nissa

>>51961640
Why Flip Nissa so low? Why Freyalise so high? Nahiri is shit but worse than Ob, really? Greenhulk really better than Bluehulk?

>>51961884
Flip Nissa and flip Chandra are both terrible but flip Chandra can win the game in a single turn with deckbuilding, flip Nissa is always just a piece, never an engine like the others can be.
Freyalise is amazing, Daretti is only barely worse because he needs a dedicated deck but both are a magnitude above the others. Ob is not much better than Nahiri, but again, Nahiri needs a dedicated deck where Ob is competent in any black deck.
Greenhulk has much more potential than Bluehulk simply because outside of Standard Snapcaster does Bluehulk's shit much better.

>>51961938
Nahiri, bad? Are you nuts? She's arguably one of the top 5 Walkers ever printed.

>>51962040
Old Nahiri, bruh, not nearly as good