Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1364: Four Crystals Edition

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Here's a teaser. I can probably do this in a week or less.

>>51924114
>>51924125
>>51924137
Paybacks a bitch, I guess.


>>51924160
...Is it my birthday?

>>51924189
Yeah, keep digging that hole deeper.

>>51924064
The jump exists but it's not on our drive and its caused shitstorms in the past. I would rather have a jump that won't make people in the thread go into a blinding rage so I can play with that setting.
Plus as I mentioned I am not a huge fan of the jump in it's current form.

Now then I'd rather keep the judgment of the jump away from whether it will poke Space Battles with a stick and to whether it's a good jump. Please don't make this more complicated then it needs to be.

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>>51924160
Oh hey you were serious about this one. That's good. Are there plans for content from the remakes? Because dose bonus dungeons are really something.

>>51924189
Sacrifice your dignity for more time on the clock

>>51924205
I'm done.

So I heard people saying before that Xianxia protagonists tend to be terrible people? How bad exactly and why?

>>51924205
>>51924189
Neither of you have ever heard of leaving old drama in the old thread have you?

>>51924189
And you still could've deleted your post and moved it to PM. The only reason you could have for not doing that is so Godogma can get his "muh hypocrisy" and "fuck 4chan" going on and calls to replace Bleach.

>>51924224
They aren't. It's a problem between Western perspectives of what's a "good" person versus Asian perspectives of what's a "good" person. That and very few people here have ever lived in caste society.

>>51924224
Sociopathic behavior is the norm for Xianxia protags. Things like grinding up civilizations into power up pills is not unheard of.

>>51924224
In order to succeed in a Xianxia setting you need to be a sociopath, the main characters are very successful.

>>51924224
>Muh Azyn Protagonists
All heroes and good people in China are monsters or psychos or something?

>>51924160
>Not Final Fantasy Tactics
I want to kill Delita damn it!!

>>51924252
In China, wealth is the most important thing. If you're wealthy, you're a good person. If you're not wealthy, you're worse than shit. Personal morals only exist to make people feel better about themselves. There are plenty of cases where rich kids get off manslaughter or murder because they have enough money, with no impact to their standing in society.

When that kind of society is ingrained into you, your values often aren't the same as Western ones.

>>51924242
>>51924241
Not actually true of Linley the protag of Coiling Dragon. He's highly protective of those he loves and hates slaughters. Generally a pretty nice guy.

>>51924252
Yeah, but at least we know why dirge acts the way he does.

>>51924264
Pretty sure there's an anon working on that.

>>51924272
That sounds kind of nice actually. Certainly not what I expected. Does he stay like that? Because that seems like the kind of thing that would get beaten out of him eventually.

>>51924160
>Being the warrior of light
>Being the PC/MC of FF1
>And all the other games, somehow
>Dissidia is about to get very awkward

>>51924287
Because he's a shitstain that likes to make people suffer? Doesn't take a genius to figure that one out.

>>51924302
Uh... How exactly did Dirge make you suffer?

>>51924160
Will there be Garland perks? I feel the need to knock people down.

>>51924320
But then you get up again?
The warrior of light is never gonna keep you down?

>>51924296
Yep. He also never gets married to anyone other then his first wife because he doesn't think it would be fair to them to try and split his attention. Even if he did find another women he loved as much as her he would try to set them up with a nice guy they'll be happy with then make them both immortal. The one time Linley does start going down the power hoarding sociopath road it gets his best friend and mentor killed because he fucked up and that basically defines his morality for the rest of the series.

>>51924312
Everything he's done has hurt this community in some way anon, you'd have to be blind not to see it. From driving off jumpmakers to SB only jumps, he's done nothing good for this community.

>>51924269
Weird that a communist nation would place such a cultural importance on having more money than other people.

>>51924376
So you're just making things up now huh.

>>51924302
Shitposter again. Rule of thumb, if they say something nonsense and caustic with no actual argument, facts or prolonged post talking about their point of view, they're definitely trying to stir shit using shock or absurdity. Ignore and move along.

>>51924376
I think you should find someone to talk to. This kind of thinking isn't healthy.

>>51924383
We haven't had any "real" communist governments that lasted more than a couple years. Well, at least in the modern world. Tribalism is arguably a prototypical form of communism, but the idea of connecting wealth with worth quickly gained traction in those as well.

>>51924420
So, what's China's government supposed to be, then? Fascist? Or just plain-old overbearing?

>>51924346
Yo, what counts as a "natural" disease for the purposes of Blessing of Hygieia?

>>51924439
It's oligarchic capitalism.

>>51924445
Personally, I'd say just about anything but nanites.

>>51924412
It's pretty simple the way he works. He either drives the community to the point where they're sick of even hearing the name being mentioned, or he makes sure that Dirge feels unwelcome enough that he'll never consider uploading a jump to the drive. Either way he gets to shit things up without consequence.

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Shitposters and politics...woo

>>51924269
So you're saying I should start destroying China in jumps?

>>51924291
Really? as in like its ongoing

>>51924346
Haven't actually read it, myself, but doesn't his pet rat, or whatever, enough of an asshole to more than make up for Linley not being one?

>>51924269
Jesus, really? And people shit on America for being too capitalistic.

>>51924522
Meant to say "Isn't his pet rat, or whatever, enough of an asshole to more than make up for Linley not being one?"

>>51924522
Yeah Bebe's a little fucking shit who deserves to get kicked around a few times but has a grandpa who stops anyone from doing that. Linley mostly checks him but it's still there.

>>51924189
I don't really have a latest version.
If you think ignoring it because it is on SB is bad form, then talk to the jumpmaker about posting it here where he is available for a thread or so to hear any issues anons might raise.

Then you can upload it, or someone else can, and that 'we' guy can shove it. I'm sorry Brahamastra had a bad experience last time, but we are not all asshats all the time. We're what, 85% asshat at most?

>>51924528
People have always shit on China for being too capitalistic. That's why there are things like Chinese rich kid stereotypes. China is just what happens when the American dream gets taken too far.

>>51924596
Eh? Isn't the American dream to be able to work your way up from nothing? Chinese culture kind of despises that kind of thing, doesn't it?

>>51924412
>no actual argument
>is shitposter

>prolonged post talking about their point of view
>is also shitposter.

Since that Morton's Fork of your pierces everyone, here!
Have this Honorary Shitposter Award!

>>51924346
How much harder is it to imbue something larger or more complex than Greece into a Microcosm? Does it scale linearly, or exponentially? I want to imbue Cap's shield with the concept of America.

>>51924610
When did you ever get that idea? The American dream is the perfect way to dangle a carrot in front of some poor working class. Give them all the idea that if they work hard enough and do some shady shit on the side, they can also join all the wealthy and happy people up top. Chinese culture loves that shit, makes sure that the people who need to work continue to work.

>>51924160
Didn't dirge already do them? like- all of them?

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>>51924488
Have cute lesbians.

>>51924509
If you're gonna do that, then be sure to destroy America too, at the very least. Probably most advanced countries.
In 2013, 15 year old Ethan Couch essentially walked after killing 4 people while driving drunk.
His court defense? Affluenza.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethan_Couch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affluenza

Any country that is this lenient on a killer because 'it was an accident!' and 'he didn't know any better!' desperately needs someone or something to come along and give them a country-wide bitchslap that sets them straight.
The average Jumper would not be any worse than what we already have.

>>51924528
I think it's because America has professional apologists, figuratively flaying their own backs and the backs of their fellows for shit dead people did or a select few are doing.

>>51924669
Nah, SoAnon also did some shittier jumps.

>>51924669
Nope. FF1-5 have not been done by anyone so far.

>>51924611
They'll call anyone a shitposter as long as it means they don't have to admit they're wrong.

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>>51924673
Thanks, I needed that.

>>51924681
I don't know how you can blatantly lie like this when people agree that FF6 is the most versatile FF jump we have. There's nothing noteworthy about the other FFs at all, you can remove them and no one would know the difference.

>>51924681
The only thing wrong with SoAnon's Final Fantasy jumps is that you have to do 8 first then 6 if you want to get double teamed by trains.
I really shouldn't have to take them out of order to get run over twice as hard.

>>51924676
The American government tends to collectively find a literal monster under their bed when I visit, yeah.

So since the cats out of the bag.

Roll 1d8 to determine your starting location or pay 50 CP to begin anywhere within the Yulan Continent.
1.Wushan Township
A small and quiet town home to the Baruch clan. The Baruchs have a history which stretches back five thousand years and are descendants of the legendary Dragonblood warriors. The young Linley Baruch lives here. While he has only just bound the Coiling Dragon ring to himself and begun his arduous path of training this young man has the potential to rise above all others across the countless planes of existence in the blink of an eye. It is only a few days journey from the Ernst institute, the greatest academy of mages in this world and the capital of the Holy Union. If you wished to learn the magics of darkness however a journey south to the Holy Union’s eternal enemy the Alliance of Darkness would be necessary.
2.O’Brein Academy
At the center of the O’Brein Empire lies the greatest fighting college upon the Yulan continent. Countless exceptional warriors have been produced here with not a few reaching the exalted Saint rank and rising above normal men. The greatest of these warriors will be taken by the disciples of the War God himself who founded the O’Brein empire
3.Mountian Range of Magical Beasts
You begin on the outer slopes of the Mountain Range of Magical Beasts, a ten thousand kilometer long range of mountains cutting across the Yulan continent. While these low slopes are filled with dangerous beasts and cunning killers they are nothing compared to the vicious monsters that live within the central mountains. Their high rank monsters with intelligence equal to or even surpassing humans dwell with a rare few even reaching the legendary Saint rank. Great treasures wait for someone brave enough to venture into these mountains and claim it from the beasts and killers within.

Let's be real for a moment. Wakfuanon was a shit jumpmaker, and his last moments showed us he that wasn't really that great of a person either, so we're not missing out on much. Now we can finally get good jumps of the settings he unfaithfully ruined.

>>51924724
That's factually incorrect. Like I really don't know how you can say the other Final Fantasy jumps have nothing noteworthy in them.

People talk about FF6 more because that game was the best final fantasy and it also has a magic sharing perk.

>>51924658
Senpai. >>51924746

>>51924746
4.Yulan Empire
The oldest empire on the Yulan plane. Once it ruled the entire continent however those times have long since passed as the empire slowly lost more and more of its territory until it was driven into the south-eastern corner of the Yulan continent. Now they sit in constant stalemate with the four other great empires of the Yulan Continent. The libraries of the Yulan empire contain more knowledge than any other place on the plane and it is famous for producing truly excellent mages.
5. Alliance of Darkness
South of the Holy Union and West of the Mountain Range of Magical Beasts lies the Alliance of Darkness. Here a constant war is waged against the kingdoms of the Holy Union to bring forth the worship of the sovereigns of darkness and become the unquestioned rulers of the western Yulan continent and perhaps the entire plane. Yet as bad as that may sound they are no worse than their enemies. The Holy Union is more than willing to engage in atrocities and exterminations in their wars with the Dark Alliance.
6.Great Plains of the Far East
The vast and grassy plains east of the four empires extend to the south-eastern edge of the Yulan continent. The kingdoms of these plains make regular war with the empires and have done so for thousands of years. While they are more sparsely populated then the empires they have produced some of the finest warriors in the lengthy history of the Yulan continent.

>>51924724
>when people agree
>claiming to speak for the thread
Please stop samefagging.

>>51924765
7.Forest of Darkness
Without question the single most dangerous place on the entire Yulan plane is the Forest of Darkness. Much like the Mountain Range of Magical Beasts it is inhabited by magical monsters. However unlike the endless variety of monsters within the mountains here one type dominates the area. Rats, they come in swarms of millions as great armies led by Saint ranked general rats and do battle against the Northern Duchies of the Eighteen Warring Duchies. Behind those Saint ranked rats is Beirut the Godeater Rat, whose strength is such that he became wildly famous throughout the higher planes of existence where the gods do battle. You have begun at the edge of the Forest and while the rats have no particular hatred of humans they have no love for them either.
8.Free Pick
You are given a choice of anywhere upon the Yulan continent as where you appear. Just be sure to choose somewhere you’ll survive being.

>>51924758
>ff6 was the best final fantasy
I'll fite u m8. That was 7. Always has been. Always will be.

>>51924759
Linear but at a very steep slope

Do the Scrolls from NWN respawn?

>>51924789
Alright, thanks, mate. Do Microcosms run out of charges, or are they effectively eternal barring neglect?

>>51924804
Effectively infinite unless they break.

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>>51924788
I respect your right to have that opinion even if it's wrong.

>>51924758
>>51924788
>FF6
>7
That's a weird way to spell FF4.

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Marvel movie oscar wins: 0
DC movie oscar wins: 1

Suicide Squad got an oscar....

>>51924752
>Let's be real for a moment. I'm a shitposter, and my last post showed you all that I wasn't really that great of a person either, so you're not going to be missing out on much. Now I can finally get a good rope and hang myself in a closet.
FTFY, silly willy.
You sure need a lot of help saying what you mean.

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>>51924596
>>51924610
Nah, that's become the CHINESE dream now. There's a bunch of convoluted doublethinking to justify reconciling the absolute madman workaholic approach to job advancement with the Confucian reverence for family, but what it boils down to is: A bunch of folks tight with the CCP made it big, and then they had trust fund babies. They're all assholes. And lots of people want to be like them because they're rich assholes.

Well, except this one friend I used to know.

>>51924269
Technically speaking, wealth isn't-party LOYALTY is. Few years ago there was a guy who toed the line a little too far to the point of collusion with someone outside the country-and they cracked down hard on him. He in jail now. Probably dead.

Basically, there's only one thing separating China from Airstrip One-and it's the fact that China wields enough economic influence to get most other people to play along.

>>51924676
...here's something I've noticed that separates America from China: For better or worse, policymaking that happens in the US from the higher levels of government has to be done under the pretense of political correctness, and it's the lower courts where people slip through the cracks. I get that there's stuff like the industrial-military complex, but policywise public opinion-or the pretense of one-still counts.

In China, /everything/ happens because the government wants it to, up to and including what little free speech we've left. It is, functionally, a crime ring that coerces "favours" out of some of the most successful entreneurs in the country. I imagine they'd find the concept of professional apologists hilarious if those souless monsters had a sense of humor.

Anyway! The point being-I'm pretty sure my Jumper always had a seed of evil in him. Gaining magical powers just let it blossom.

>>51924813
Okay, cool. Is it more skill or time-based? Like, I see that the upgraded version requires time to absorb, but there's no mention of time in the perk itself. Does this mean that I can imbue as fast as my skill permits?

>>51924855
>Best Makeup
Eh. Pretty small Oscar. Considering the best make up in Marvel amounts to the Blue/Green Man Group I don't mind DC being the prettiest princesses at the Oscars.

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>>51924855
How?

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FF13 best, Lightning best, fite me

>>51924771
Quick way to identify the little shits is when they say "we". Ignore and move on.

>>51924867
A bit of both? It takes more time to bigger things and skill can only reduce that so much.

>>51924878
Ur waifu is shit m8

>>51924878
Go away Toriama.

>>51924855
The Oscar are retarded.
This isn't surprising.

>>51924871
The only competition was Star Trek Beyond, which was white face with black bits on them, or some movie about an angry old dude. Not much of a win but kudos to the artists who won it. Rest of the movie certainly doesn't deserve it.

>>51924878
Nice try, guy from FF13's development team who made his waifu the main character. I'm onto you.

>>51924878
shit franchise shit characters shit jump. sorry you like shit anon

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>>51924855
Christ.

I mean, don't get me wrong the Marvel movies have some serious flaws-but for WHAT?! That movie is literally a patchwork shamble that couldn't decide whether to ape Marvel or be dark and edgy, and failed badly at both to settle on being an extended music video montage.

>>51924847
And you're ALL spelling Dissidia in weird ways, so there.

>>51924943
Yeah, but it had good makeup.

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>>51915320
Magnificent. And great job managing to make 25cp denominations work.
Anyway, here's my build.

>>Vampire: The Requiem (1000) (111)
>Identity (21 y/o)
1000>Socialite -000 Party "girl" (trap) fall from heaven
1000>Nosferatu- -000 Pale skin. Gaze. Aura. Ugly as sin.
1000>Covenant- Unaligned -000 Left and forgotten after he found I'm too ugly to be a Daeva.
>Attributes
0800>Presence- Outstanding -200 While not an issue before, Vampirism suits me.
0700>Composure- Outstanding (Discount Nosferatu)-100 Developed after 5 years of distress.
0500>Resolve- Outstanding -200 Willpower is an always take. Developed by finding resistance to Daeva.
0375>Politics- Scholar (Discount) -125 Always had an affinity for it. Undeath, once again, suits me.
0250>Empathy- Master (Discount) -125 What I always yearned for in life.
0125>Persuasion- Master (Discount) -125 Sexual persuasion chance is gone. No idea how this came about.
0000>Socialize- Master (Discount) -125
-125>Subterfuge- Master (Discount) -125 Developed through deceit from Daeva convert.
>Perks and Disciplines
-125>Polyglot (Free) -000 I can speak french! Oui Oui!
-175>Pretty in Pink x2 -050 For what it's worth
-325>Face in the Crowd (Free Nosferatu) -000 Muggings and catcalls were no longer a problem.
-325>Obduscate- Oubliette (Discount Nosferatu) -150 Landscapes now bend to my will. Or give the illusion of such, at least.
-325>Dread Presence (Free Nosferatu) -000 Because I am a monster after all.
-500>Nightmare- Waking (Discount Nosferatu) -175 For those who think to challenge me...
-700>Nightmare- Mortal Terror (Disc. Nosferatu) -200 ...and think it's just an illusion.
-750>Import- Shau' -050 Ready to conquer by my side.
-800>Haven- Semireliable Apartment, No Windows -050
>Drawbacks
-200>Blind +600
-100>Dulled Bite +100
0000>Touch of Frost +100

And all my writefagging. Never written this much about a jump... ever. Here's the Pastebin: pastebin.com/bQuZzzUx

>>51924943
Look we all know the real answer is 4 Heroes of Light

>>51924855
Well, Oscars are bullshit anyway.
How fucking long did it take DiCaprio to get one?
Clearly whoever runs the Academy Awards has no taste, that's all there is to it.

>>51924953
If we're going that far then Bravely Default is king.
Just the first one though, the sequel was kind of bad.

>>51924901
Thanks, Herculanon.

>>51924863
Don't you live in Taiwan?
When are you guys gonna tell China to go and stay go?

>>51924669
>Didn't dirge already do them?
>>51924683
>Nope.
FF5 job crystals would be so nice to have.
I remember sticking around the first tower until I mastered Monk plus Thief, and some magic.
Barehanded was the shit to place on someone to turn a wimpy caster into a boss when grinding AP, and a monk + thief freelancer made boss fights a lot easier.

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>>51924905
Reminder that Bhunivelze is Toriyama's self-insert.

>>51924878
I'm still wondering to this day how that even works. Do they just digitally animate her, or is there one model in the pagent who has to be called "Lightning" for a day like a really dedicated/autistic cosplayer?

>>51924901
Speaking of non-shit waifus. Is Echidna still alive at the start of the jump? I'm freeing Typhaon so they can run off somewhere to make monster babbies in peace, but I heard Herc kills her at some point.

>>51924855
>>51924873

I'm calling rigged.

Every single category had at least 5 selections except hair and make up, which only had 3. In reality it was really only 2, Swedish comedy "A Man Called Ove" WTF is that?

Warner Brothers is desperate for the DC comic movie franchise to not be a flop and bought an Oscar for a shred of respectability.

>>51924990
>Speaking of non-shit waifus. Is Echidna still alive at the start of the jump? I'm freeing Typhaon so they can run off somewhere to make monster babbies in peace, but I heard Herc kills her at some point.
Jump starts anytime you want during the heroic age so yeah she should be rolling around somewhere.

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>>51924984
Used to, but I keep moving. Last I heard Prez Tsai's trying to bro it up with Trump for that purpose?

There's only a certain amount of go HK can tell China to stay without ignoring the fact that it's a tiny port next to one of the biggest countries ever, but our internationalness is too entrenched at this point so it's still mostly all good. Mostly. Occasionally students get fucked by the police but long as you don't actually go around marching and chanting WHAT ABOUT DEM HUMAN RIGHTS the internet's uncensored and you can pretty much do what you like

>>51925032
British letting go of HK was the worse mistake.

>>51924993
>I'm calling rigged.

AMPSA is basically MENSA, if MENSA was even more exclusive and gave out completely meaningless awards every year.

>>51925015
How fast is Walker of Worlds? Like, can I pretty much get anywhere in a day? An hour? And is it something that's actually noticeable?

Does it work for vehicles?

>>51925065
British letting go of HK was necessary. Nobody in their right mind would keep HK. Don't talk about shit you have no clue about.

39. High School of the Dead
Origin: All-Rounder, Age: 18
Perks: Handy at Hand, Forged In Fire, Madness Manager, Sign Language, Finesse, Form
Democracy Under Companions (Somni as The Genius, Zeke as The Otaku (Weapons), Chesnaught as The Fighter, Suke as The Teacher, Hana as The All-Rounder, Oto as The Soldier)
Complications: Damned Sexy, Sprinters

1. Amulets of Cure Common Disease are a lifesaver in more ways than one.
2. This jump really reminded me why I love Zeke.

We trapped a few hundred zombies in a building, just before he lit it on fire. Then, he dragged us a few blocks away and to the top of a building, and got out the binoculars. We'd blare music and he'd get all excited and point and make jokes. Sometimes we'd dance or hold hands. It reminded me of watching fires as a kid. We'd stay up there until the fire started to spread too far and then he'd take my hand and we'd all jump off the building. His stand, Safety Dance, would catch us all at the bottom. The zombies of course had come up to try and get us by then, so we'd start a new fire and repeat the process.

Zeke's the kind of guy who takes joy in an apocalypse. Smashing windows for the fun of it, building massive booby traps to take out as many as possible, digging through people's old apartments for food and valuables, and even chilling in the woods looking through the trees for monsters. It brings out all his greatest passions. He's the kind of friend that you can usually only have at night.

I think we may have burned down all of Tokyo by the end of this jump, but that maniacal grin was worth it.

So if you take Legendary in Greek Myths then go to Fate, can you summon yourself as a Servant?

>>51925179
No. People who are alive can't be summoned.

>>51925195
Unless they're Merlin, apparently. Or Shirou. Or the other examples where Nasu clearly didn't give a shit about his own rules.

>>51925195
With the exception of Merlin, but he's wierd like that.

Does the Copy-Copy Fruit from One Piece only work on other Devil Fruits?

>>51925201
Both Merlin and Shirou are explicitly breaking the rules, not just Nasu not caring. Shirou is getting the god of humanity to send him back and Merlin is basically the best wizard ever and summoned HIMSELF, he didn't get summoned.

>>51925195
So then take that perk from Universal Monster that lets you be dead once per jump without ending your chain and die at the end of the jump without getting revived. Bam, you're dead for the purposes of Greek myths.

>>51925224
And you're still alive for the purposes of Fate because you're alive. GG moron.

So what perks would protect against a Tonberry's abilities?

>>51925179
Probably not yourself, but a mythological perception of yourself. There are several examples of "fictional" or otherwise non-existent people being summoned.

>>51925195
But they wouldn't be summoning someone who's still alive, because they never existed in that world.

>>51925235
So kill yourself at the start of the war with that same perk and have a companion summon you.

>>51925224
No, you're alive in Fate. You need to be dead when you're summoned. So maybe if you set the summoning ritual on a delay it could work.

>>51925237
Have a lot of health or just don't care about being stabbed.
Everyone's Revenge is just damage so it's not a big deal and even if the stabbing counts as insta death for that version you can wear a ribbon to get over it.

>>51925247
At which point you get forced into a super nerfed container with a couple of your powers and gear at far weaker levels. If it even works at all. GG again double moron, you wasted a life to get nothing.

>>51925178
>Sleuth Anon
Do you have a Problem Sleuth jump or something?
Because I just did a username Sleuth* looking for any pdf and got nothing...

>>51925268
No, they're not summoning your actual soul, just a replica of it. So you can get rezzed back into your real body. Ya dick.

>>51925284
He was Elonanon IIRC, but after a while of Echoanon existing it got annoying.

>>51925243
I don't think you can summon a mythological perception of someone who actually did exist. Otherwise summoning Tamamo wouldn't get you an avatar of Amaterasu, because that's not in the myth. The most it can do is affect their Noble Phantasms, like Vlad Tepes getting a vampire-based NP. And you do exist in that world at the time of the summoning, so it would probably ping off of you as alive right then and there and not call your myth.

>>51925290
So you get a shitty copy of you that you have no control over and you'd need to waste a pod on to take along. Wow, a whole life for what you could do in an instant with shadow clone jutsu. Aren't you clever.

>>51925284
It's on the drive, in the Complete but Needs Image Work folder, part N-Z. I was the Elonanon, and the Disney Anon, and I think Redline and Changeling? Someone had a list.

>>51925298
Then what's the deal with Lily/Alter versions of Servants? Arent you summoning a version of them from a version of their story that had a better/worse ending?

>>51925304
I don't get why you're so pissy? It's just a funny thing to do, it's not for some super power exploit or anything.

>>51925309
Maybe you should look up this stuff before talking on it.

Don't know who to reply too, but the idiot trying to get a servant of himself needs to have his soul enter the throne of heroes in order for the grail to be able to summon a Servant of him, so if the soul is still lingering around waiting to be revived it won't work.

>>51925309
Well, the canon versions are Servants who have been twisted by weird happenstances of magic. So the servant summoning ritual shouldn't be able to do it on its own.

>>51925201
>>51925202
You can only summon Merlin, if you are Merlin, because rules are for people other than Merlin.

>>51925327
I'm not part of this conversation, that was an actual question you salty piece of shit.

>>51925297
>Elonanon IIRC, but after a while of Echoanon existing it got annoying
>>51925307
>It's on the drive, in the Complete but Needs Image Work folder, part N-Z. I was the Elonanon, and the Disney Anon
Ah.
>Disney Anon
Remember Pixar Princesses are Disney too! Corporate says so! And you don't want to get in a fight with corporate...

>>51925309
No. I'm not sure why the jump calls those options that, possibly just as a convenient shorthand. Lily Servants are just a version of the Servant from an earlier point in their life being summoned. Alter Servants are ones that have been corrupted through dark or at least aberrant magic.

>>51925328
Throne of Heroes isn't an issue outside Fate/Stay and Fate/Apocrypha

>>51925243
Servants are made by making a copy of the soul stored in the Throne of Heroes and putting it into a container. So if you want a Servant version of yourself the only way I can think of achieving that is to use that nine souls perk from Soul Eater and finding someway to extract one of them from yourself and have it ascend to the throne.

>>51925375
Very popular fan theories on what Lily and Alter are, they've often been used in fan theories and so on to describe what those Servants are.

>>51925298
Per the drawback he's using to self-insert into the greek myths in the first place, he wouldn't actually have existed in Ancient Greek Nasuverse (nor would he have a native equivalent that actually did whatever he did in his legend) in the first place, so...

>>51925433
Yes, but he exists at the time of the summoning, so...

>>51925444
True, but would there really be enough of an overlap between whoever he was back in a different jump and what might as well be a literal lie for that to matter?

>>51925444
I don't know if it'd matter that much. Archer does get summoned even though Shirou's still alive. Although Archers not a true Heroic Spirit so it might be different.

>>51925457
I'd hope so. God, can you imagine changing that much that something looking into your very soul can't identify you as the same person? Sounds horrifying.

>>51925463
He also traveled through time. None of the normal rules apply to Archer.

>>51925444
Didn't Gilgamesh summon himself?

>>51925476
No.

Do you keep things you learned during a jump that were not bought for CPs? For example the Harry Potter jump does not have a buyable skill that gives you HP-type magic. Can you use what you learned at Hogwarts in further jumps?

I have a question the interaction of some perks. What happens if you have Most powerful, most beautiful (akami ga kill), Soul's Grace, Refinement of beauty, and cultivation of strength (tales of demons and gods). They seem to improve your beauty, strength and spiritual power based on the other attributes.

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>>51925388
> Wake up.
> Where am I?
> Oh, I'm in Fateverse.
> Why can't I access most of my powers? God damnit, did I take a drawback?
> Who's this asshole giving me orders?
> Turns out you're a servant.
> Turns out you're ACTUALLY a servant, not just jumper pretending to be one.
> Jumper shoved their soul into the throne of heroes because ???
> Now you get summoned by random jackasses to help them fight the grail war.
> Real Jumper has already moved onto the next jump.

What would you do, /jc/?

>>51925518
Fuck Rin.

>>51925463
Take Demigod, get summoned as a Divine Spirit like Medusa.

Am I the only one that thinks the arch-angel and 11th commandment should give you atleast 20000 powerlevel? Because otherwise you are pretty much the weakest in all of history tier. It does not seem to fit the setting of the group you are supposed to be part of. And yes I heard supposedly that there are no powerlevel limits for the commandments but that's dumb considering there supposed to be elite forces second only to the demons king. Isin't it more likely that there's a minimum of 20000 power like the the knights needing to be above 300 to enter?

>>51925576
No, just seems like you're complaining that you don't get to be super powerful for cheap.

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>>51925528
Rin is not for lewds.

>>51925576
Honestly it would be nice if all capstones boost you up to at least Deadly Sin level. That's like 2k-3k range. At least you will be able to hold your own for first part the jump, until things escalate and you're only a side character.

>>51925580

I'm just saying that if you take arch-angel for instance,the gap in power between you and the other archangels is comical. I would rather it not be offered at all than clash with the established setting so badly.

Could someone post the Seven Deadly Sins Jump? And/or upload it to the upload folder on the drive?

>>51925585
She canonically is, though. She's even bi.

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>>51925585
You sure about that?

>>51925489
>Do you keep things you learned during a jump that were not bought for CPs?
I think the answer is usually yes, unless it depends on some connection to a power source or plane or something that doesn't exist in future jumps. Like most types of magic do.

In the case of HP, since the jump makes you start as a wizard I think the popular assumption is that HP magic is kind of "bought for 0cp" as a part of entry into the jump.

>>51925518
>Dedicate myself to regaining my full powers through whatever means I can find.
>Realise that as I am summoned to various wars the possibility exists that I could be summoned to the war that the original took part in as neither he or I have any means to prevent time travel from altering our timelines.
>Decide to take revenge on the original for screwing me over like this.
>Become JUMPER.

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>>51925647
Everyone's bisexual in Fate.

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>>51925576
>>51925616
>>51925629
Think of it as you being a substitute or junior member of the ranks then, if you're unsatisfied. Or just take the benefits and not the actual rank.

Honestly, only reason anyone even complains is because Power Levels can be clearly measured. The exact same situation is in GoHS too, with you being able to buy up to a certain level of power which is still far below the top tier of the setting, yet no one raised a peep. You can even be part of groups, like the Gods, where all other members that actively appear on screen are much stronger then the highest power you can potentially get at the start of the jump. Still not a peep.

>>51925667
Mind. Blown.

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>>51925680
Counterpoint, Souichirou.

>>51925734
He's got Medea and his hands.

>>51925718

In GoH when I was reading the perks it seemed like the power levels offered where close to those of the canon members shown on screen and with a little training would reach those levels quite fast. I assure you if I thought they were incredibly low like this one I would have said something. However while a lower powerlevel is more fiting in GoH due to beginning with the main characters at a lower power level this is not the case for Seven Deadly Sins. From the very beginning the power level and action hovers at slightly above 3000( which you need to spend nearly all your CP to buy)and very soon afterwards it jumps ridiculously. In addition the you cannot be said to a subtitute or junior member of those forces because 300 in even lower than the lowest of mooks existing in that universe for humans, not even mentioning the ridiculously more powerful demons and godesses. Seriously at 300 you are at holy knight initiate tier and red demons and grey are much higher than that. It is disengenous to offer the demon origin if you refuse to offer any actual power those demons had because otherwise you would be the weakest demon of them all.

>>51925718
I'm not one asking for 20,000+. I'm one asking for being at level closest to the Deadly Sins if you buy a Racial Capstone. Which would be 2,000. Which would be under +300cp into power levels. Seeing how quickly the level of power spikes within the Jump.

>>51925795
There are some builds that allow you to be relevant.

>>51925795
Quite certain you've not read the series with some of the assertions you make. GoH? The only perks that directly improve your power are the capstones for the power options. Nothing else does. They give abilities, often powerful ones, and items, often powerful ones, but nothing increases your raw base power aside from those options and to a max of The Six level, who at best could lightly bruise a High God, one of the few dozen top tiers in the world. This is stated pretty clearly in those options and would be evident to people who had read the series too.

Until Hendrickson goes demon mode at the halfway point of the series, 80+ chapters in, the Seven Sins at their 3000 or so power levels are the strongest beings in the setting (Technically excepting Fraudrin but who knows how strong he was until he got to gorge on souls to replenish anyway). The power levels do not leap 'very soon' after it starts. Even Meliodas' demon thing early on only gets him to the 4000s. Until the Commandments come out, in which case there's ten, ten, beings in the entire setting stronger then them. 300 isn't enough for an initiate? Are you blind? 300 is the minimum for a full Holy Knight, not an initiate.

You realise all those demons are centuries to millenia old?If you want to get to those levels as a Demon, put in the work.

So yeah. You pay 600 or so CP to be in the top 20 strongest beings in setting. Or pay 300 and be at Gilthunder's level, who could still fight several different sins reliably well and is still one of the strongest guys in setting. Or don't pay and still be a Holy Knight for free, far stronger then most of the setting. If you seriously want to go straight to the top of the entire setting from the get go, there's a few builds that let you. Do those.

>>51925850
If it's under 300, there's not much of an issue with just putting that into the Power Level perk is there? You'd have 200 left even if you bought your whole racial tree.

>>51925860

The only one I can see is the reactor capstone and that's only for the very small time period of the beginning of the series which puts you slightly lower than the main character's powerlevel so not that relevant. In addition a Jump with only one build capable of being relevant to the plot is a bad one.

>>51925887
Not involved in this, but don't equate "being as strong as the strongest characters at the start of the Jump" to being relevant to the plot. You don't have to brute force your way into making a difference.

>>51925868
Just curious, but are there any "common" abilities at the top tiers of GoH? Stuff like passive regeneration/self-healing or reality warping, or is most of it unique to specific characters?

>>51925908
Being really strong and really fast, physically. Very few people at the top level are lacking in the physical abilities department. Other than that, it all varies. Some people have strong special abilities backing them up, others got crazy strong equipment, some don't got anything but their skills. Taejin the fuckin best.

>>51925887
Not like you could replicate the powers and power levels of multiple sins within 1000cp and maybe the Deadly Sin based drawback, perfectly in character for most of em, amirite? None of those Main Characters are relevant to the plot at all. At the very least, being Ban, probably the character with the most focus outside of Meliodas, should only cost you about 1200. Diane should only cost 700cp and have 200cp on top for a bonus power above earth control. 1000 if you want the Sacred Treasure too but she doesn't start with hers either. Heck, you can be a better Escanor for 900cp.

Gotta forgive me if I find you a bit ridiculous, when you seem to be asking to be as strong as the main characters with a single perk. The main characters are the strongest guys in the setting outside of the Commandments. Plenty of characters outside them are relevant and have an impact on the plot. Do all of those characters go toe to toe with the strongest demons? No, but neither does anyone else save Meliodas or Escanor at their strongest, even in the main characters.

>>51925868

I had typed a big response but it got lost so I'll just say that giving out a demon and godess clan race without a larger power level than 300 is ridiculous not even mentioning other perks.

>>51925938

You may be right then. I still feel that the power levels are too low but you have valid reasons for it so I'll concede the arguement.

>>51925908
Top tier? For the most part, just superhuman physical stats and maybe levitation/flight. Even energy blasts aren't universal like in DBZ or a few other shows. Pretty much everyone has their own unique power, fighting style or weapon.

>>51925958
Sorry we don't see eye to eye on this but I'm trying to reflect the setting as a whole. If the very, very top tier of the power isn't entirely accessible immediately, keeping in mind that there are ways to access it partially or temporarily from the start, but it otherwise lets you reflect the whole range of the rest of the setting while also giving you the potential to eventually get to that top tier, along with still offering the abilities and traits that made those top tiers unique apart from power levels...then I'm pretty satisfied with how it worked out.

>>51925937
>>51925969
Thanks, anon, Val.

>>51925942
The main character is a demon and doesn't get his crazy strength back until later in the plot. Another main character has Goddess powers due to maaaaybe being the reincarnation of a Goddess or something and is piss poor weak. In both cases, someone connected to the clans with mythical strength are well below those ancient power levels at the beginning of the Jump due to various reasons. It's not unprecedented for this kind of thing to be the case, and just means you'll have to train in-jump. If you take the drawback that extends your stay to 30 years, that's two entire decades to git gud before the story even starts. Depending on how you play your cards, the Commandments might not even get unsealed and you're never going to have to deal with the 20k+ power level people.

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>>51925969
Reactor for Holy Knight is it a limited time thing or is it always on?

>>51926044
Always on.

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>>51925734
>stone cold killer
>just wants to live a quiet life
>has a waifu; arguably is her husbando instead of her being his waifu

Souchirou confirmed alternate universe Yoshikage Kira?

>>51925650
...wasn't there something about how she and Gil would've had great synergy, back when F/SN first came out?

>>51925644
Net's being screwy about PDFs at the moment and my browser shits itself at google, but here's the latest version I can find

http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/51914298/#51916867

Speaking of which-is being green something that happens to pigs when they BECOME giant, or are all giant pigs naturally green? I figured the former since Hawk isn't green yet, just wanted to check.

>>51926168
If he truly wanted a quiet life he wouldn't have joined the grail war.

>>51926168
It's probably a random thing like anime hair colors.

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>>51917080
It's time for Guerrilla Gorilla, the Jumper.

Hey JC? A question, just pondering something.

How much of a good idea would it be to use "Generous Donation" from Cardcaptor Sakura to split my Magic Core in half and give that half to Rin?

I mean, all it does is that it generates an absurd (well, half as absurd now) amount of mana right?

>>51926168
It's not really a thing as much as it's an aversion. Grand Order pretty much confirmed that Fate/Stay Gil is a pale shadow of his Babylon age self, he's pretty much grown soft from all the years of not having to take anything seriously. He doesn't take Ishtar or Ereshkigal really seriously though, even in his more serious persona.

>>51926272
Depends. Are lewds involved in that transfer?

>>51926277
...maaaaaaaybe? Considering that she's gonna be my Caster in Fate Zero? I'd say there's a massively good chance for lewds.

So is Porting over the fate and JoJo's bizarre adventures video games to Gashat a good idea or bad idea?

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A question: if I go Hybrid in PSG, then choose the same kind of weapon/clothing for both my Infernal and Heavenly weapons, can I combine my purchased weapons?

I figured that as a Hybrid having a weapon that could shoot demonic or angelic blasts would be thematically appropriate.

Does that make any sense?

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>>51926273
Which is weird, considering they pretty much murdered Enkidu.

Speaking of Fate, I just found out Goetia's incineration of human history shares a name with Aoko's special attack in Melty Blood. What did Nasu mean by this? Apparently Aoko didn't use Magic in that game, but is that cheeky shoutout supposed to be his way of hinting how the 5th works?

>>51926644
Given the number of years between the two of them, probably just a cool name.

>>51926272
>>51926308
Probably pretty dumb. If your plan is to import her as a Caster into Zero then giving her your Magic Core isn't going to do much for her. She's going to get more magical power than your Magic Core provides by itself simply by merit of being a Caster. In fact, getting the entirety of your Magic Core wouldn't even push her from A to A+ rank in Mana. If you're instead looking to boost her mana regeneration then even that's kind of a nonissue unless it's your very first jump. Because as her Master you can freely transfer as much magical energy as you want to her through your bond, meaning that assuming you have as much or more magical energy than she does (extremely likely if you've dipped into magic at all during your chain) then she'll benefit more from YOU having a Magic Core than she would from having one herself.

>>51926644
By the time Babylon happens Gilgamesh is faced with too many threats to worry about Enkidu or who caused him to die. He has his priorities straight at the very least.

Aoko doesn't exist in Grand Order's universe as far as anyone knows. We know that there are multiple characters that have parallel existences that aren't mirrors of one another, like Primate Murder and the multiple Shikis, but Goetia and Aoko have basically have no relations to one another. With the second season of Grand Order being "mystery" related there's no clue just what revelations that's going to bring about though.

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Shadowrun Jump 087:
CP: 1000
Drawbacks:
Assassin's Creed [+100]
Criminal SIN [+200]
Cut a Deal with a Dragon [+300]
Location: North Korea
Race: Human [Free]
Origin: Tech-Wiz [-100]
Perks:
Build/Repair [Free]
Decker [-150]
Inventor [-300]
Awakened [-100]
Sorcery [-300]
Conjuring [-300]
Gear:
Contacts x 3 (Hacker, Face, Johnson, Blogger, Fence, & Talismonger) [-50]
Apartment [Free]
Armored Clothing [Free]
Meta Link(Farlight Caliban) [Free]
Farlight Excalibur [-200]

Upgrade [-100]

[Prologue]
“So I help you create and dominate the New Korean Megacorp and you make this,” the decker indicated his SIN with a disdainful wave of his hand, “go away? No time limits, no pressure, just finish the objective within my lifetime and you’ll do it? I’d say it sounds too good to be true but then again, you’ve got me by the balls here...” He contemplated the dark figure in the cell for a bit longer, letting the silence cloak the both of them. After a few more moments. “Okay, I’ll do it, but I’ve got my code.”

“You see, Saotome-Kun,” the smooth South Korean tones of the decker’s new benefactor seemed almost warm even as it sustained absolute neutrality about the use of Japanese, “that’s one of the reasons I feel you were the best choice for this. A man willing to sell BTL’s back in the day, but when the charges came and you could have shifted the blame. You didn’t.” The SIN was lain upon the deckers bed. “You’re freedom is assured, Saotome-Kun, just remember to sign the NDC before leaving.” The guards opened the gate for the figure. “Let this be a profitable relationship, Saotome-Kun.”

So I’d dug my grave before I’d even gotten here, huh? Well this is going to be fun!

Apparently I am the Computer Wizard in a very literal way.

>>51926890
For someone who isn't very familiar with Shadowrun, are there any powerful deities or extradimensional beings in the setting that could interfiere if a Jumper becomes too relevant?

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>>51927148
In truth the world doesn't seem to have a higher governing force out there, from what I remember of my 3rd Edition games.

There are dangers though. The books do detail the Native American spirits as being utter wrecking balls when the Great Ghost Dance went off, they basically fucked the local weather system for decades as a side effect and I believe it's hinted that Coyote is active still in the world. Dragon's have started hording political power, banks, lines of credit, and favors so you might be seen as competition if you gain too much of those things. Note that dragons in general are able to manipulate Edge, weird luck mechanic of the PC's, and have a saying in Shadowrun "When going up against a dragon, you lose.". The AAA Mega-corps are freakish in their control of basically everything one of them has recently, in some game, managed to basically make their entire company fated to win no matter what whilst dumping all their bad luck in a slum, which then built up to the point that one of the Yama Kings of Chinese legend manifested in reality. The Insect Spirits are some kind of Cthulhu thing from what I remember, but I could be wrong it's been years.

I guess it depends on the level of the Jumper.

>>51927315
I could be wrong about this as I don't play shadowrun, but dragons are also the only ones preventing the bug things from taking over reality. So if you destroy the dragons, you're pretty much destroying the world

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>>51927346
I really wouldn't be surprised. As I've said it's been a while but as soon as my group found out one of the players was an Insect Spirit shaman type guy we killed him on the spot, reasoning was solid and the guy held no bad feelings OOC about it even as his ghost became a BBEG.

>>51927148
Greater Dragons are probably most reasonable threat at the time. Unless you decide you're going to be messing with bug spirits. Now there's eldritch abominations coming in the future, but that's at least a century away.

>>51927346
Bug Spirits are just the vanguard of what's to come.

>>51927386
What's to come?

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Speaking of dragons, what Jumps would let me be a dragon?

>>51927479
Pretty much every jump that has dragons in it has some sort of dragon option, like D&D, or P&D, or Spyro, and so forth. Are you looking for some sort of specific type of dragon?

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>>51927514
Dragons capable of spell-casting would be a good start. I don't know if you can get that outside of Forgotten Realms.

>>51927614
Spellcasting is a pretty vague qualifier. With a lot of settings that have monster options, if the setting is vague, it's more likely you'll run into dragons with spell casting. If you take a Final Fantasy with a monster option those generally can cast spells fine. Spyro I'm pretty sure has some form of spell casting. I don't know Puzzle and Dragons well, but I'm guessing it has spells or whatever in it as well. Somebody else probably has a list of all the race option jumps out there if you're not looking for something specific like Eastern dragons or Western dragons or Westeros dragons or whatever.

>>51927656
>don't know Puzzle and Dragons well, but I'm guessing it has spells or whatever in it as well.

We dont have a pad jump.

>>51927476
http://shadowrun.wikia.com/wiki/Horrors

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>>51927656
Where is the puzzle and dragon jump? I want a suzaku so bad.

>>51924160
I was going to suggest an 8-bit Theater 0 CP drawback until I remembered we already had that jump, but I think a drawback where those assholes keep causing trouble for you would work as a legitimate drawback.

>>51924160

Heavens, I know this is probably redundant but.

In DBZ, can those who picked the Frieza Clan race eventually achieve Golden Form with enough training?

>>51925178

No Fashion or 401k? Madness!

>>51927479
It's free in Divinity Dragon Commander.

>>51924272
I thought it was the norm but I've found some that weren't psychotic.

Another farm on the other world: Guy wants to eliminate slavery and is a rather good guy.

Chronicles of the Primordial World: Ironically a tribe of superhuman cavemen are actually not all that dickish and most of there rules promote working together.

Desolate Era: A lot like Primodal, and even the power hungry uncle was only as devious as "I will train kids to be stronger than yours so they will win fair and square". And basically infighting is not tolerated.

>>51928101
Oh and the protag from Stellar Transformation is basically a good person. Even if he is a assassin he doesn't target innocent people.

>>51921537
>Others
Yes, you can teach others to sync, and... Hm. Yeah, multiple times is fine, but later ones will not be discounted. I'll add that too.

>Not hours at all!
... Uh. Free PP recharges at a rate of 1/hour, unless they changed that somewhere. If there's a joke here, I've missed it, sorry.

>Crafting
I mean. I'm not saying no. I just pictured it as basically making magic items from Prometheus Exxet, except psychic, and crystal-looking, but that's pretty in-flavor.

>>51921538
Idle Answer: I don't really like drawbacks where you /have/ to do something. If I ever make scenarios for it though, I'm willing to throw those in as options.

>>51928117
There's alot of people who don't like that protag. I've never actually heard a good reason why though. He's a decent enough sort. Not perfect, but not horrible either.

Like Linley he just wants what is best for his loved ones, and has something of a cultivation obsession. He doesn't hurt innocent people or aggrandize horrible behaviours, like killing or abusing people for power.

He is a touch bland however.

>>51928151
Hey Anon Heart do you have plans after Anima? any jump you'd be interested in making?

>>51928181
Kubera: One Last God, if I can get Transcendental Skills to work out, and various other GURPS jumps (namely Banestorm and Dungeon Fantasy), if no one beats me to them, since I'm very pointedly /not/ claiming them unless I finish them.

Also, Luminous Echo when it comes out, but that's not for another four months, so...

>>51928170
>>51928117
>>51928101
After the world of cultuvation jump came out I read some of it, zuo mo the protag in it seems to be a pretty good guy. The worst I read if him doing is robbing people after he beat them but even then he only took 1 item.

>>51928494
World of Cultivation has one of those outlier protags. Zuo Mo is fair, he challenged those guys and they agreed to it because they didn't wanna lose face, popularity basically. He's a nice enough dude as far as it goes, though some of the Elders of his Sect could use a better understanding of teaching the outer sect members. In all though, Xain Xia is a strange Genre and a few of its tropes are just... odd, and I'm not sure if that is a product of it's birthplace or what.

Overwatch build
http://pastebin.com/bhUFz8hR

>>51928151
>Free PP recharges at a rate of 1/hour
Not with the faster recharge, which is sort of necessary to not suck

>>51928831
My perk descriptions are not written assuming that you've taken any perks but those required for the power to work at all. That's why the Gestureless and Wordless casting perks for mages both act as if you haven't taken the other one when they're being described, for example, despite the fact that they stack and having both means you can just glare at people to shoot fireballs from your eyes or whatever.

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>>51926068
Would Snatch (from Seven Deadly Sins) let you steal equipped items? Like could you steal the armor off someone's back?

Or even their panties?

>>51928991
Val's actually working on a KonoSuba jump, so you can just get it there once it comes out.

So, question. To get more Pokemon than your team of 6 as companions from the Pokemon Trainer jump you normally need to take a Return from the warehouse and install a PC Storage system to the warehouse to keep them in.

My question is, if you're technologically savvy enough (and probably take Technician) and spend a few years learning from Bill (or one of the other people to work on the PC Storage systems in later games) would you be able to set up a PC Storage System on a laptop to take more Pokemon with you at the end of the jump?

I mean, I doubt you'd manage a full 30 box system on a laptop, but even being able to take 2 more Pokemon than normal could be a boon for companion-centered builds, as it would allow you to have the full 8 companion limit right from your first jump.

So, we have a few unlockable attacks in the chain, but do we have the reverse? Something that prevents attempts to bypass immunities and resistances where they would otherwise be relevant?

>>51929010
Yeah, but I already have Snatch, so I was wondering if I could do it now.

I'm mostly interested in being able to steal equipped gear, like armor. Panty theft would just be the icing on the cake.

>>51929163
Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced Thief? The only thing they can't steal is boots.

Some Pokemon Mystery Dungeon questions.

1. If you and/or your partner start as Nincada and evolve during the jump, does that make a clone/copy of you, or a new Pokemon with the same stats as your/their Pokemon form, and probably a fairly similar mindset? Does it become a companion? If you copy yourself this way does that copy continue its own jumpchain, or join you on yours? Do you/they evolve into the Ninjask or the Shedinja?

2. If your starter in the PMT jump is something with more than one possible evolution path (Eevee, male Ralts, female Snorunt, Oddish, Poliwag, Slowpoke, Tyrogue, Clampearl, Rockruff, technically Burmy, maybe even Wurmple) and you import them as your partner, and evolve them differently than you did originally, does that become their Pokemon form change to their new evolution, or do they get both as alt forms?

>>51929192
It's worth noting that, in the game at least, "anything" also includes skills. It only works on skills that the user can learn, but they get them permanently. Like, if a thief steals Fire from a black mage, then they permanently learn the Fire spell.

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>catching up on TFS' Xenoverse 2 playthrough.
>Apparently Mr. Popo née Demon God Dumplin had a 3-way baby daughter with Towa and a cat
>She's Puddin, the 2nd Time Patroller

Man, between the Yozis and the Endless it seems likely lately I've been meeting a lot of people whose family trees are just as complicated as mine are. Also, good news, Sunny! I found you a rival for the Dragonball jumps!

[Explosive WOO in the distance]

>>51929163
That...does sound like something I could see Dr. McNinja doing, so-all the McNinja perks combined, maybe? Or Thief, from 8-Bit Theater. He also has an entire perk tree, and short of the actually conceptual-he's stolen in ways that seem cartoon physics-y.

While I can't confirm, I remember being told Smoke Knights from Girl Genius fight in a similar way too.

>>51929058
Nothing that general springs to mind, apart from the three "absolutes are no longer absolutes" perks out there:

Apotheosis (Baten Kaitos)
The Noble Eightfold Path (Lord of Light)
Heretic (Seven Deadly Sins)

There's a similarly worded thing in the Servant Supplement called Pioneer of the Stars, but from what I gather on the wiki it's meant to represent the context of being a brilliant genius who invents unprecedented stuff rather than an across the board thing.

>>51927991
>401k

Why is 401k a big deal? Eating and sleeping is for scrubs.

>>51928101
The irony of the Bringing The Farm To Live In Another World protag is that he was put into the body of a sociopathic cultivation expert that was probably worse than most of the badguys he faces now. So he feels guilty for stuff he had no part in.

>>51924150
>Last Thread
>51914298
Hello there, dumbass.
>>51914298
for the archives.

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>>51927861
Will consider.
>>51927961
Read the notes at the end of the jump.
>>51924209
Probably going to be a mix of the original and the remakes. Maybe a hint of Dissidia?
>>51924320
There will be a Path of Chaos tree.

Also, I really like this image for some reason.

>>51929637
You know, you don't have to stay here if you'd rather nice to SB. Honestly, it'd be understandable even if you wanted to quite jumpchain entirely.

>>51914979
>Haven from Vampire: The Requiem
>>51915320
>Yes.

>Vampire: The Requiem
I am not finding this, just the one by CCDT.

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>>51929674
Piss off. Not in any mood for your flavor of horseshit. Find someone else to antagonize, or grow a fucking pair and actually talk to me one-on-one. Either way, stop wasting both of our time.

>>51929674
If you're going to insult somebody, the very least you could do is ensure you're using the correct words. But I understand. Your vocabulary is so limited you have to find substitutions.

>>51929674
>>51929674
>>51929674
>>51929674
>>51929674
There, that should satisfy you for a while, right?

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>>51929704

Bodacious Babes

Bro you made the first cardinal sin, replying to him.

Are there any jumps you guys would really like to see or are looking forward to?

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>>51929758
>>51929704

>>51929767
Heaven's Final Fantasy jump and the Generic Princess Rescue Gauntlet. The former for nostalgia's sake and the latter because it seems like the author is putting some solid work into it.

>>51929686
It's in Unimaged N-Z.

>>51929704
And you'd have to deal with less horseshit on SB, and be part of a better community in general. Can't see why you got so triggered, tbqh.

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>>51929522
I took 401k. It's mostly an alternative to Food Immersion from Toriko (I took Food Pressure instead). So, y'know, storing excess calories to do weird Toriko bullshit later.
It also synergizes well with the protein energy from Cho Aniki! So, y'know, down a ton of protein shakes and attack people with muscle lasers.

I also have Fire Belly from Cardcaptor Sakura (which ironically ALSO makes it so I never have to eat or sleep), but still allows you to do those things and convert the unneeded energy into temporary magical power!
... I am probably like the only person in all of jumpchain who wasn't a drop in that jump.

... so that's neat!

>>51929801
>>51929801
>>51929801
>>51929801
>>51929801
>>51929801
Have some more.

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>>51929767

Bodacious BABES

DISEGEA DLC AND PRINCESS GAUNTLET

>>51929782

Bodacious Babes

I prefer woman in proper armorunless they are amazons

Are there any jumps that offer a means of freeing trapped souls, à la D.Gray-man?

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>>51929704
Unfortunately special needs children have a very limited vocabulary. Took him almost a year to learn to spell "BTFO", for example.

Also, about DBZ-just wanted to check, imported/created companions have to pay CP to be a demon right? Saiyans are bought and the other races are free but demons aren't mentioned in the jump, so I just wanted to check.

>>51929767
I haven't seen GeniusAnon lately, but I'm all up for some transgression. Other than that, there's Mardukth's Lunars to continue my unnecessarily convoluted saga of revenge-salvation and I just remembered Val was considering a Majikoi jump in the VERY distant future.

>>51929856
I think the Third Magic (F/SN) can do that, actually. Other than that, there's a magic for it in FF10 and Dresden Files/Gargoyles/Buffy magic is versatile enough for that too.

>>51929875
Latest version in the upload folder should cover that. Earthling, Demon, Namekian, and Alien are free while Saiyan and Freiza Clan have to be paid for, in terms of companion imports.

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>>51929856
Binder from Forgotten Realms specializes in pulling souls from between worlds and are normally locked away. No doubt that would help you.

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>>51929637
>Also, I really like this image for some reason.
Cirno is best 2hu.

>>51926168
Joshirou's bizarre adventures.

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So I've heard about what's going on, and I've decided not to keep procrastinating with posting this here. Hopefully it can get on the drive.

>>51929767
It'd either have to be a joke jump or have a decent amount of OC, but a part of me wants a Fist of the Borf Star jump.

>>51929674
>if you'd rather nice
I think you accidentally a few words there.
>quite jumpchain
Hmmm, yes, quite. Exquisite.
*tea-sipping intensifies*

>>51930021
Way to utterly fuck up the very first page.

>>51930021
You didnt even spell the name right.

>>51930021
You're not gonna get a lot of traction here. Some people here hate you. I don't, because I know nothing about you or Coiling Dragon, but I doubt you posting this will cultivate anything but salt.

>>51929941
Who is the fish girl?

>>51929767
Looking forward to:
>Fate/GO
>KonoSuba
>Other Exalted jumps (Lunars and Abyssals)
>Genius jump
Jumps that I would really like to see:
>Mignolaverse (I don't think that aside from BPRD you can do multiple jumps for each franchise, but I want to travel there anyway)
>Asimov's Foundation
>Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer (maybe as a Gauntlet?)
>Urasawa's mangas: Pluto, Monster, Billy Bat, 20th Century Boys...
>Bunny and Tiger
>Gash Bell!
>Bastard!!
>Nier 2

>>51930021
I don't dislike it

But you should fix that first page formatting.

>>51930145
Isn't the same with some other jumpmakers? We should be used to Timmy and his imitators antics by now.

>>51930115
>>51930119
>>51930145
It iznt even the guy who made the jump, he goes by brahamastra, this guy is just some shitstirrer. Report and ifnore.

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>>51929910
Neat, thanks!

Drawbacks: The Saga Continues, Four Stars! Broly When? Buu Who? Only the Strong Survive, Dark Seekers, Rival, Jumper Owned Count, Mr. Jumper (2000)

Drop-In, Earthling, age 26

Hidden Power (Free)
Ki Training (Free)
That's Stupid and You're Stupid (Free)
Kill Your Pride (Free)
Jumper 01 (1700)
Dragon Radar (Free)
Strange Fruit (Free)
Legacy of the Tuffles (1500)
You Stop That (1300)
Instant Transmission (700)
Sparring PartnersX8 (400).
-All: Demon, Style Artist, Do You Even Pose? (Free), Stomach Cramps (Free), Posing Power! (400), The Savior Has Come! (300), A True Hero (0)
A Devil In Plain Sight (200)
Tree of Might (0)
Big Gete Star Microchip (+300, 0)

Also, having caught up on the TFS playthroughs, assuming they're canon to the jump it turns out Popo/Dumplin created the DBZ Abridged universe, fertilised the Time Egg and at one point broke through the 4th wall to murder Lani and Kirran

I haven't seen anyone be such a literal Jumper since Luna! And unlike Luna, I'm totally cool with sharing the wonderful drugs of Malfeas with him on the lookout in our downtime while not time patrolling. It helps I'm basically the opposite of Goku: I halfass fights so much I'd rather portal someone on the edge of blacking out right in front of Dumplin to finish because I can't be arsed to secure the kill.

Not to mention-I just remembered since "Dark" Arale's totally going to follow Sunny around like the little sister she is, they can go on sparring parties with Puddin AND her beaus: Cooler and Dodoria!

My newfound scientist/self appointed trainer keeps arguing with me about how I should actually fight more. I point out I don't need to fight to increase my powerlevel. She concedes the point, and admits she's just going berserk because the demon cheerleaders keep breaking into her office and posing on the table.

>>51930021
Herculanon is already making his version for our drive.

http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/51924150/#51924746

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>>51930157
That's Undyne, though admittedly it's a younger version of her than you see in the game.

>>51929767
Crysis
Improbable Island
Mortal Instruments
Mortal Engines
Leviathan Series (the Steampunk/Biopunk WW1 setting)
Uglies
Skinjacker Trilogy
His Dark Materials
The Time Quintet
Spore
Interworld
Uber

Have any of your jumper's companions died? How did they handle it?

>>51930239
>not having a dozen bullshit True Resurrection spells up your sleeve
real stakes are for pussies

>>51930200
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/47474809/#47480908

His claim is way older and didn't got accepted mostly because 'SB' and 'too powerful'.

Also, people were willing to accept it a few weeks ago: http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/51581727/#51581866

>>51929767

Belgariad/Mallorean
Dirty Pair
Fading Suns
Fifth Element
His Dark Materials
Nausicaa
Spelljammer
VeloCity

I should really just bite the bullet and make some of my own.

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>>51929767
Ar Nosurge, I've been looking through some gameplay stuff and fuck, Ion is too adorable.

>>51930292
Yeah fuck off, if the thread didnt except it and it is a sb exclusive then it can stay there just like a certain jump with juvenile equines. Someone here is making a version for the thread.

>>51930239
>Not having your companions respawn
>Not having resurrection spells in the early chain

What a pleb. You deserve every bit of suffering for your incompetence.

>>51930292
What I would recommend, is that Bramastra "collaborates" with Herculanon as his bottom bitch, like Adarx suggested to Babylon Guy.

>>51930301
>Belgariad/Mallorean
Please please make this too and have a toggleable perk that basically makes the plot not change no matter what you do called plot happens!

>>51930301
We got a Fifth Element jump, anon.
I think… Yorokonde made it? Not sure.

>>51930021
Sorry Bramastra, but we've got someone here who already has the claim currently, he waited the amount of time that it takes for a WIP to be outdated I believe. It's been ages since you've posted though. How have you been?

>51930189
....

http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/username/brahamastra/

http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/username/Bramastra/

^_^ Huh would you look at that?

>>51930292
Eh this is true. I personally don't have a horse in this race though.

>>51930323
No need to be so aggressive, anon.

>>51930323
>What I think is more important that what other people said
Yeah, sure thing kiddo

>>51930334
>collaborates

Aww, you learned to spell a new word! Aren't you clever? Just remember sport: Rubbing shit in your eyes won't make daddy love you!

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>>51930239
Ended up having to kill Nabiki. Should have known better than to take her in the first place, giving super powers to someone that amoral isn't a good idea.

>>51930364
>kiddo
>nothin' personnel

>>51930355
>^_^
Fuck off

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>>51930301
>Fifth Element
Ouch, my pride.

>>51930348
I sure did. It's just filed under The Fifth Element.

>>51930348
Shit son, I need to check again.

>>51930337
Prophecy bitches, I ain't gotta explain shit.

>>51930391
nice memes

>>51930405
Anybody else think Mei looks vaguely like a Pandoran?

>>51930408
Just would make a cool perk for jumper to not destroy the setting or other settings.

>>51930337
Weren't Cracker Jack and TopHatAlthalus making a Belgariad jump?

>>51930337
>>51930408
I think CJ and TopHat were doing a Belgariad jump.

>>51930405
I want to congratulate you personally on not posting furshit for this one post. Commendable restraint.

>>51930451
>>51930441
I dont know are they?

>>51930257
>>51930329
>Not rolling for jumps.
>Not playing Pretend on Hard Mode.

>>51930021
Really, i see nothing actually wrong with that jump. No clue what people were complaining about. I hope hercules anon can actually deliver something better.

>>51930315
You know not who you waifu, anon. She is a scary girl.

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>>51930452
Oh no, I'm backsliding! Without your constant verbal abuse, I'm slipping back into the degenerate creature that I normally am. /sarcasm

>>51930465
>Hard Mode
Go back to SB.

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>>51930487
I knew it.

>>51929767
My "dream that I'm probably never going to get around to" is to make a I Wanna Be the Guy gauntlet. Some of the links, rolls, and perks in it will be traps, meaning it's actually possible to die while you're still making your build.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmBwqRhGznI

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>>51930469
I'm aware, all that hate that has been cultivating this whole time, and I'm the idiot on the couch huh?

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>>51930460
They WERE?! Not meming, that's genuinely news to me.

Although this DOES remind me-if you're out there Ninjanon, I hope the Kingkiller Chronicle's still chugging along.

>>51930469
It's always the quiet ones. Doesn't Nepgear /snap/ in one of the game routes?

Also, am I misremembering or were you working on something in the near future too? I remember you dropped some stuff a while back, so I probably am.

>>51930516
...I have to say, that DOES pretty much look like how I'd imagine Sun Wukong to be as a woman-monkey.

>>51930531
And a harmless Dracula companion?

>>51929767
Dies Irae
Demombane
Vertigo's Lucifer
Umineko
A proper Doctor Who

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>>51930507
I thought SB was all about powerwanking?
Please make up your mind.

>>51930487
It's not just one dude.

I think a good number of us are annoyed by your repeated violations of Global Rule #3.

>>51930315
Don't mind the sad ending, for Japanese players with an account on the company's website, they get an email from her in the real world actively searching for you.

>>51929767
some summerfag claimed motor city and left Before completing it,I need it bad

>>51930573
Any deviation of the main rules is bad

>>51930573
They do a thing there called creative mode where you take infinite cp for every jump.

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>>51930601
>main rules
hahahahahaha
please tell me where I can find these "main rules" so I can make sure I'm playing pretend incorrectly.

>>51930599
Don't remind me, you need Ciel then marry her, then connect with Ar Nosurge for the true ending. And those in the west will never get Ciel nor experience it. At least theres the translation stuff on YouTube.

>>51930623
What does that have to do with rolling for jumps?

>>51930549
In the end, you could say she is worse than Nelo.

At least Nelo learned to stop caring after the first century.

>>51930553
>Doesn't Nepgear /snap/ in one of the game routes?
Yup. Good stuff, that ending.

>Also, am I misremembering or were you working on something in the near future too?
Aye. Am 50% on the current project, and will be working on Ar nosurge next.

No matter how much sweet Nier beckons.

>>51930649
Yeah, I really hate when this kind of stuff happens. We seem to be regressing back to the 90's, where little gets translated and localizations get butchered.

>>51930487
I don't care about your being a degenerate just don't dump those pics here
Or at least make more jumps

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>>51930574
Look, most of what I post anymore is ears and tails, nekomimi-style stuff, which is tolerated from everyone self. I admit that I slip up every once in a while, but it is certainly not on a constant basis.

Unless you're counting Undertale art is as "furry", which is just wrong, because they're monster-girls.

Which id better for using vore as a gateway to power up: Hellsing Vampirism/ Dark Binding, Greed, or Majin?

>>51930701
Pretty sure it's just the shitposter's tailored shitposting for you, senpai.

>>51930599
>>51930649
>>51930683
Well, there is a certain fan project in the works... And aquagon is a determined guy.

>>51930695
I like them. Please kindly fuck off.

>>51930574
I'm way more annoyed by the shitposters who also consistently violate Global Rule #3.
I could give a fuck about a guy posting pictures, when there are assholes trying to destroy the community.
Methinks you have confused priorities.

>>51930671
Renall's Genometric's was really fucked up wasn't it.

>will be working on Ar nosurge next.
YES

>>51930683
Guess the only option now is to learn Moonrunes.

>>51930722
Which one?

>>51930709
Hellsing you can get fairly early, which is not likely with DBM, and Greed isn't actually you doing any devouring as much as your magical tattoo. So Helling or Majin, probably Hellsing.

>>51930573
A TGAG jump would be fucking insane in the best way.

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>>51930711
Aw, damn it, really? I've gotten so good at detecting that lately.

>>51930695
What? Is six not enough for you?

>>51930639
Why did you post that pic with your post?

>>51930709
Greed is best since you get /all/ of their powers and Val said the bought version won't drive you insane or anything.

>>51930701
As far as I can tell you still post that shit pretty often, and monster girls in is the same bag obviously.
>>51930711
>nobody ever complains or quibbles on 4chan except Timmy
Nah. That's just the spirit of the place.
>>51930726
I agree that shitposter is worse. Doesn't make posting furshit a-okay. I can fight back against both.

>>51930783
>monster girls in is the same bag
I don't care if you are our usual shitposter, you are a shitposter even more retarded than he.

>>51930740
Aquagon recently finished the fan retranslation of... AT2, I think? Because that one was badly localized. And with the recent Vita cracking, he started wondering about the possibility of a full Surge Concerto translation. And if anyone can, it's him.