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> No matter where you go or what you're trying to do,

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> No matter where you go or what you're trying to do, your party seems to spend a lot of time on all sorts of feasts.
> Every time, the DM stop the action for long-winded, gratuitous descriptions of various delicacies, such as oxtail soup, summer green tossed with pecans, grapes, red fennel, and crumbed cheese, hot crab pie, spiced squash, and quails drowned in butter.
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At least he's not describing penises or women defecating.
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>>51869257
>GRRM
>Not Brian Jacques
Am I being bamboozled?
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>>51869257
Is there anything wrong with what GRRM is doing describing food in such detail? It makes total sense
>Humans NEED food to survive
>Food is one of, if not the, most important part of a culture
It's literally the best kind of worldbuilding. Just because it's not masturbating over the elf and dwarf war of nobody-remembers-why-or-when they still hold a grudge over to this day doesn't mean it's not good worldbuilding.
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>>51869257
>feasts
>butter
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>>51869365
harlus fuck off and defend dhirim
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>>51869344
It's wrong because he is fat.
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>>51869344
It's dull and doesn't meaningfully advance the story. Less words, more story.
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>>51869294
This. I blame my tremendous girth upon the Abbey of Redwall and their excellent cooking.
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>>51869257

These were some of the most annoying parts of his books. That and his constant need to describe weird sex scenes and add in a billion characters every chapter.
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>>51869257
He's a hack and I can't wait until he dies of obesity and his fanboys finally shut the fuck up and stop shitting up every fantasy media with their need to add "gritty realism".
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>>51871421
>/ck/ and /tg/ meet
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5hU9OKE-cc

Some of us enjoy reading about food.
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>No matter where you go or what you're trying to do, your party seems to spend a lot of time traveling.
>Every time, the DM stops the action for long-winded, gratuitous descriptions of scenery, such as wide grassy plains, steep snowy mountains, rocky outcroppings, dark gloomy caves, cities with walls of white marble and cozy burrows in the hillsides.
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>>51869257
>Your DM uses the word "swamp" to describe a vagina.
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>>51871780
>fat pink mast
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>>51871740
I was confused for a second since that is /asp/'s goal horn.
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>>51871774
jesus christ how fucking perfect
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>>51869257
>No matter where you go or what you're trying to do, your party seems to spend a lot of time on all sorts of Pathos
>Every time, the DM stop the action for long-winded, gratuitous descriptions of various types of Pathos, such as oxtail pathos, summer green tossed with pathos, pathos, red pathos, and crumbed cheese pathos, hot crab pathos, spiced pathos, and quails drowned in pathos.
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>>51871740
Go read Leaves From the Inn of the Last Home's cookery section, then.
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>>51869257
> No matter where you go or what you're trying to do, your party seems to spend a lot of time on all sorts of thews.
> Every time, the DM stop the action for long-winded, gratuitous descriptions of various thews, such as mighty thews, hardened thews, Cimmerian thews, the thews of strong, uncivilized men, and the weak thews of cityfolk.
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>>51869344
I can see what's wrong with it, as it doesn't do shit for advancing the story, but like you, I enjoy reading descriptions of the food in fantasy
In GRRM's case, I like the descriptions of certain wines
Shame there aren't any of beer brewed by local monks
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>>51869257
>No matter where you go or what you're trying to do, your party seems to spend a lot of time on all sorts of drugs.
>Every time, the DM stop the action for long-winded, gratuitous descriptions of various trips, such as acid colourful nonsense, heroin relaxation, MDMA joyful sensations, amphetamine boosts of energy and cannabis sudden hunger.
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>>51871941
I'm all about this.
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>>51871973
>>51871941
Moar.
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>>51871774
>And then you realize he's literally drawing the map about a day's travel ahead of your characters
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>>51871973
Wrong motherfuckin' image, yo
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>>51869344
In a book that's already beating you over the head with all of the different families, factions, titles, and names of a feudal system that's more fractured than my goddamned sphincter after eating at my town's Taco Bell, all while the cast of characters who you can actually give two shits about is really fucking small (I managed to give a shit about 3 by the end of the first book, and I know that one of them gets killed off), it makes for cruel and unusual writing.

I also just hate how much the book projects really fucking modern nastiness onto a more primitive culture. I can at least appreciate how poetic he is with their deaths. Danny's brother being "crowned," Rob getting impaled in his fat gut by a pig after fathering and secreting who knows how many bastards, Ned losing his head because he was an idiot, and big, bad Drago dying from a flesh wound he got while trampling some bumfuck village.
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>>51869365
Can someone tell me why butter is the one food that became a meme?
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>>51872520
Ask paula dean the butter paladin.
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>>51872520
But it's not.

Potatoes.
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>>51869289
This. I always get hungry and really want to get in to cooking when I hear that stuff. Never get horny or want to have sex with the magical realm stuff.
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>>51872520
Because in Mountain Blade, butter is non-perishable and cheap, so armies will subsist entirely off butter with no actual food whatsoever.
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>>51872633
...This started up my autism like mad.
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>Bi natter where you go or what you're trying to do, your party seems to spend a lot of time getting punished for that one time you screwed something up in the first session.
>Every time, the DM stops the action for long-winded, gratiutitous descriptions of how your initial screwup fucked over the ENTIRE WORLD yet again, such as dooming a wondrous race of magical horses, destroying an important artifact that is literally a foundation stone to the world's magical stability, or keeping the laws that separate the dead and the living intact.
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>>51872520
There was a bug that caused villages to have nothing but butter in their inventories
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>>51872157
As in he's making it up as he goes?
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>>51869257
My GM is Enid Blyton?
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>>51872633
>Mountain Blade
Most food is non-perishable in Mount and Blade...
Also using only one food source is retarded.
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>>51873257
Maybe, but it works
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>>51873009
>>51871872


I don't recognize these two. Who are they/what did they write?
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>>51869257
THE MORE SHE DRANK
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>>51871627
Why Redwall stop.
I liked those books a lot as a kid.
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>>51873381
>book every year or every other year until Jacques' death in 2011
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>>51873381
Author's been dead for a while man.
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>>51869257
>fat man
>describes good food at length
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>>51873381
Brian Jacques died a few years ago Anon.
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>>51872336
>I also just hate how much the book projects really fucking modern nastiness onto a more primitive culture

Explain.
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>>51873536
Most fat people get fat off bad food though
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>>51872336

You have a romantic notion of the past. When this guy rebelled against the Spanish, the crown executed his entire family in front of him, and then drew and quartered him, but had to decapitated him after the horses didn't tear his legs off.
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>>51874271

I didn't say it was unrealistic either, maybe you should try reading.
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>All fantasy authors are bad
>My shitty homebrew setting is better
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>>51874482
Don't be pedantic anon.
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>No matter where you go or what you're trying to do, your party seems to spend a lot of time involved in excessively detailed fight scenes that bring the plot to a halt.
>Realize you're playing DnD/Pathfinder and this is to be expected.
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>>51871891
>Leaves From the Inn of the Last Home

Oh hey, I have that book! I have to dig it out and give it a read sometime. It's been too long.
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>>51873371
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmKhGqWcJGY
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>>51874172
>The crown.
Monarchs were subhuman.
Nobles are one facet of any culture, and the only times book one shifted frame to show the world around them were to show....a wall for undesirables and a brothel. It's an old world religious culture and the only characters we're exposed to outside of the nobility are presented as either the nobility's punching bags or its fuckdolls. Everything that happens to move the plot forward is consistently shitty. You'd think the fucking ghost and barbarian cunts on the other side of their wall were the ones who put it up.

It feels more like I'm watching a really shitty soap opera instead of an attempt to capture another world, and I dislike looking at it.
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>>51871421

Found the reader who's attention span has been destroyed by the internet.
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>>51875005
Not that Anon but I have found my tastes change. When I was younger I could read book on book of 6-800 pages easily such as WoT or anything. As I've aged I've found I enjoy generally shorter books of 150-300 pages of quality writing or plot even about relatively mundae matters.
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>>51873352

The bottom one, at least, is Stephen Donaldson

In his most famous work, almost right out of the gate, the protagonist rapes a girl. Almost everything that happens over the next 6 books are direct consequence of his raping this girl, and his attempts to make up for it, which inevitably fail, and cause even more bad shit to happen. It's only when he accepts that he can't un-rape the girl and acknowledges that he'll try to do his best even though he can never be really redeemed does he become effective.
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>>51873825
No, fat people get fat with an EXCESS of food.
"Bad food" is a myth.
Some food has no nutritional value, but it still does it's job with simple sugars.
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>>51873381
Anon…

Brian died. Heart attack.
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>>51875005
The more books you read, the less impressed you are with meaningless flowery descriptions.
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>>51869257
What was the feast tax policy?
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>>51875786
His skeleton finally escaped.
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> No matter where you go or what you're trying to do, your party seems to spend a lot of time on all sorts of niggers.

> Every time, the DM stop the action for long-winded, gratuitous descriptions of various nigger traits, such as massive lips, flared nostrils, low intellect, weird accents, predisposition to violent crime, bad smell, aversion to cats, and tendancy to worship strange, horrific, eldritch creatures from beyond the conventional imagination.
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I hate to admit it. I've done stuff like this. Albeit I tend to use meals as a shorthand for various things about a region and the people they're eating with.

Also lead to the PCs eating weird stuff.
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>>51875856
He wasn't even that fucking racist, you retard.
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>>51876003

It's a joke, calm down.
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>>51875856
Toxoplasmosis is a mean bitch.
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>>51876003
This. He even married a Jewish woman!
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>>51875856
Don't forget the yellow hordes anon
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>>51876115
I mean, there is a reason why you see a lot of cars with ISIS.

The medieval people had it right when they killed the cats, but I bet cucks would be against doing it again
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>>51875856
Typical game on roll20.
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>>51869257
You have Roger Zelazny to thank for that particular feature of GRRM. The two of them were good friends, and Martin wrote an essay about his friend/mentor's passing.

But yeah, Zelazny wrote quite descriptively about food in his books. It seems like he wanted to grab the reader's attention by appealing to the senses. No problem there, except Martin has the annoying James Michener habit of expounding upon the background and history of every little goddamn thing that distracts one of his characters. You can almost sense him expanding his universe and getting an idea for a new series of novels -- anything to keep him from finishing ASOIAF.
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>>51869257
I'm going to laugh when this fat fuck dies and fans of his garbage material don't get an ending.
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>>51878047
Brandon Saviourson will take over and save this series too.
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>>51878047

GOT producers have had the bible for years. He can die tomorrow and it's still getting made, and then we'll have backronym-style books that rip from the show. And every bookfag will cry tears of blood and pitch.
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>>51878152
And Preston Jacobs will have endless videos about how he thinks the books would have really ended.
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>>51869344
World building =/= literature
I'd read a setting compendium made by GRRM in an instant, but the man can't write prose for shit.
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>>51875807
>appreciating the skillful evocation of a scene or emotion is somehow being easily impressed
Pretty sure you just don't care for the subject matter. Like how some Pixar fans find Ratatouille dull and boring bit think Cars was amazing... or vice versa.
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>>51879422
He's already made a compendium.
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>>51874662
>I dislike looking at it
I think we found the source of your criticism right there. It has nothing to do with realism or anachronism.

There are other book series that take breaks from the plot to pan over idyllic pastoral vistas populated with hard-working but happy and honest folk. Maybe you would like those better. In this series, bad things are happening, and you need to pay attention.

Toughen up, or get out of the furnace.
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>>51869257
ITT: Author problems that aren't really problems.

AKA: Identifiable characteristics of any kind make writing vulnerable to subjective dislike by random people.
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>>51869257
Jesus fucking Christ, it's "food is integral part of roleplaying" thread again...
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>>51871941
Underrated kek
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>>51875217
>No, fat people get fat with an EXCESS of food.
>"Bad food" is a myth.
>Some food has no nutritional value, but it still does it's job with simple sugars.
There are definitely bad foods anon. Sugar, for one example is highly addictive, and mages it extremely difficult to not eat an excess of food.
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>>51875217
>"Bad food" is a myth.
Try eating fast-food for a while and nothing else. Tell me then about problems about digestive track.
Bonus round - eat nothing but MRE rations for two weeks.

Note that I'm not talking about getting fat here. But it doesn't make this stuff any less bad for your health
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>>51881408
Oh my dear god. I mean I understand not everyone can go to school for this or work in the field, but at the very least make friends with an RD on Facebook and talk to them about food. Unless you're convinced that all RDs are shills for the media / corporate america / the government / big pharma / whatever scapegoat boogeyman you use to keep yourself from learning things.

>>51881457
This guy is technically right, but mentions correctly that his contribution is only tangentially related to the topic of the original post, and is strictly speaking out of scope.
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>no matter where you go your party always seems to be in need of a towel. Wiping things, improvising scarves, breathing filters, etc.
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>>51881457
>Try eating fast-food for a while and nothing else. Tell me then about problems about digestive track.
Did this for about a year and had no digestive problems whatsoever. Gained about 30 pounds and that was it.
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>>51869257
>tfw you will never have glorious disk maker as a GM.
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>>51881237
You need to read more books, then you'll understand.
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>>51882060
There is the possibility that Anon has read far more than you have, And still enjoys a well written scene even if it's just about food. I, for instance, still enjoy purple prose and sometimes find it disappointing when an author doesn't use it, it often feels lacking in detail.
You just want to feel superior and act like you're some kind of fucking great critic of modern authors, and one thing I've found in my time is that most critics, by and large, are full of shit, and you should always judge for yourself.
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>>51869289
what about women's penises
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>>51876003
>plot twist of one story is literally "your family has black ancestors"
>main character is so shocked he goes insane
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>>51882257
>There is the possibility that Anon has read far more than you have
Not according to his posts.
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>>51882566
Not everyone puts on their full English skills on display, 100% of the time, and it's still early enough that non-native speakers would be on.
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>>51882313
I guess you're new but that's taken as a given in any roleplaying game.

I mean this is the t-girls board after all
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>>51881783
>no matter where you go, the party never seems to remember what they're doing
>every time, the DM stops and asks what he was going to do again
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>No matter where you go, the party always seems to be subject to fate.
>Every time, the DM stops and some old man gives a long winded, sad monologue about disappointment.
>There are no quotation marks.
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>>51881338
ITT: People make jokes about identifiable characteristics and butthurt fags overreact.
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>>51872520
>butter meme
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>>51875216
That's some edgy shit right there.
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>>51875216
>>51883497
Oh yeah, Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, the anti-Lord of the Rings, starring a guy with leprosy who's taken to a fantasy world and doesn't want to believe it so hard he still does his leprosy exercises every day. Haven't read it myself but I listened to a lecture where it got praised for the most part, save for some of the outdated language, names, and poor free-verse.
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>>51879422
>I'd read a setting compendium made by GRRM in an instant
Why? His world building consists entirely of "this is just like [historical real world place] but a hundred tmes bigger" in a patchwork mess that doesn't make any sense.
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>>51872520
>>51883008
From /m/. With UNDERSTANDING.
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>>51869257

>no matter where you go or what you're trying to do, your party seems to spend a lot of time on beat poetry
>every time, the DM stop the action for long-winded, gratuitous beat poetry face-offs

this is a fresh hell
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> No matter where you go or what you're trying to do, your party seems to spend a lot of time in the dullest book franchise that ever existed
> Every time, the DM stops the action to fight assorted villains that are indistinguishable from the others, to make all magic unmagical, to make action seem inert, to use another cliche and dead metaphor, to make characters stretch theit legs
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>>51883560
I miss the times when fiction didn't have to be an edgefest of lolrealism to receive praise.
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>>51883658
>>51883497
>Edge
Here we go with this memeword again
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>>51883658
>First book was published in 1977
Well it's not like he was doing it to be mister cool dude, it was more of an attempt at realism.
The main character, Thomas Covenant, gets leprosy in the modern day, his wife divorces him and takes his children, and he loses two fingers. Then one day he wakes up in a fantasy world where he doesn't have leprosy, though he's still missing his fingers, and this ties him into a legendary figure who used to be a king. One of the first things he does is rape a woman since he doesn't believe it's real, and it comes back to haunt him throughout the series, and he even meets the rape-daughter later where she admires him as the warrior-king I think he ends up being. Like I said, this is what I heard from the lecture.

The main thing is that he doesn't want to believe that the fantasy world is real, because if it ends up being not real then he couldn't handle the despair.
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>>51881650
The thought that I live close to the ditch he fell into always cracks me up.
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>>51883688
It's not a memeword just because it flusters your butt, Hitler.
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>>51871774
That nigger got nothing on this nigger.
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>>51883688
>>51883658
>>51883497


Dudes, edge is when you insert themes like rape purely for shock value. If it's an integral part of the work, and has serious, serious consequences, it's hard to call it edgy.
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>>51883800
>first think that comes to mind when faced with the prospect of a not-real world is lolrape
>not gratuitous shock value
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>>51883786
those are a lot of towers

>>51883800
if its an integral part of the work, the whole work may still be called edgy if its handeled fucking badly.
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>>51871740
> RIGHT: Mfw when all of my favourites from TNA are now becoming a big deal in WWE and NXT
> LEFT: Mfw I have to adapt to WWE's more predictable story structure and slower pace.

At least the crowds make the fights feel big.
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>>51883750
The really awkward thing about the series is that by the time it was released and when Thomas was diagnosed in the story leprosy was actually curable. In the early eighties, halfway through the second chronicles, we got really good at it.
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>>51883845
Yeah I noticed that after I listened to the lecture. I imagine that would have really fucked up Thomas.
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>>51883832

Seriously, read the books, it's much, much more complicated than that.

>>51883834

Yes, well, I would take issue with the idea that it's handled badly. It's not exactly light and pleasant, but it is handled well.
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>>51883871
It's one of those times when I cut the author some slack, I guess he'd had the idea for a while and had it mostly written down except for a few scenes of eating aliantha before anyone pointed it out. His leprosy and specifically the social stigma of it is so central to the story you couldn't rewrite it with another illness, so in that case I can understand him just being like 'fuck it, we'll just go with it'.
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>>51873257
It also triggers my autism
>There are army leaders who don't concer themself with providing a balanced range of food for their army.
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>>51883657
Who?

> in b4 "Google it", pic related.
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>>51884043
Yellowstone National Park, duh.

JK Rowling
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>>51884043
>he doesn't know Seqoia National-Park's oeuvre

true pleb
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>>51869344
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>>51883657
'Ad a good giggle, m8.
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> No matter where you go or what you're trying to do, your party seems to spend a lot of time being fucked by all sorts of beasts
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>>51884149

The original image was for deaths, you div.
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>>51869289
>woman defecating

someone please post the screencap, i need it
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>>51874662
You sound like such a milquetoast Millennial.

I say this without a shred of malice: grow some fucking balls, kid.
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>>51876073
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>>51882341
That's not true at all.

They should call you CNN because all you do is lie.
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>>51882676
That ain't funny, anon. That ain't funny.
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>>51885093
>I say this without a shred of malice: [insult]

Isults are by nature malicious. Being unable to recognize your own negative emotions is also a sign of immaturity, passive-agressive anon.
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>>51881650
Not exactly first post, but definitely best post
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>people disliking that the setting has a bit more flavour kek other than 'big bad has come, must go to ancient forest and fetch magic stick'
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> No matter where you go or what you're trying to do, your party seems to spend a lot of time in the presence of bitchy women.
> Every time, the DM stop the action for long-winded, gratuitous descriptions of various obnoxious character ticks, such as smoothing skirts, pulling braids, sniffing, calling all men woolheads, and refusing to have a conversation like proper fucking adults.

I still liked it though.
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>>51883560
I tried to read it once. I remember liking the beginning a lot, then suddenly the turbogeneric 2/10 fantasy setting infodump began and I lost all will to continue.
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>>51871421
"They sat down and ate"

Okay. So what?

"The group collapsed down at the oaken table, and feasted like starved animals, exhaustedly shoveling beer-basted venison down their throats, downing glasses of wine between sparse breaths"

I'm fucking THERE. I have the mental image in my mind, like television.

That, Anon, is the difference between "Big Boy Books" and "Little Guy Books". Simple sentences do not effectively convey the scene at hand.
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>>51881457
>digestive track.
It's tract anon, digestive tract

>>51882676
You, you are not my nigger anon
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>>51871421
>t. millennial
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>>51875856
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>>51888013
It's not a question of the complexity of the sentence, but the number of sentences devoted to the topic. Your second example is good--it's descriptive without being, in and of itself, an entire scene.
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>>51888013
That sentence gave me cancer, anon. If "wow these guys are disgusting fucking fatasses" wasn't what you wanted to convey with it, "they ate" would have been better.
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>>51885838
>there can only be Warcraft or GRRM, nothing in between, nothing outside of this binary

is this bait
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>>51872520
Go to >>>/ck/ and ask them about meme foods if you really want to know. Butter is far from the only thing that became a meme.
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>>51883575
I know anything can be a fetish, but why butter?
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>>51875856
>>51876003
NIGGERMAN is the best name for any cat that I have ever heared
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>>51890034
>itt: Anon can't believe it IS butter
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>>51890034
Why tile patterns?
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>>51881354
To be fair, there's a reason we're fa/tg/uys.

There's a lot of porky motherfuckers (myself included) on this board. Is it surprising we have a food obession as a cuntmunity?
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>>51890166
Solid kek
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>>51883574
>His world building consists entirely of "this is just like [historical real world place] but a hundred tmes bigger" in a patchwork mess that doesn't make any sense.
pretty standard stuff, in other words
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>>51890582
Yeah but people keep telling me it's so original and deep and whatnot, and they get right mad when I tell them it's nothing special. So I call it shit to make them get extra mad. Because they deserve that.
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>>51873352
Stephen Donaldson
Steven Erikson
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>>51889809

It's an example anon, who cares. The point is that it's descriptive and gives you a mental image.
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>Be soldier
>Just got back from 3 week training, only got compensated with two days and a weekend
>Has to wait for the other soldiers to finish their current jobs to go home
>It's fucking 1930
>Didn't eat lunch or dinner, not touching another MRE until next training
>See this thread
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Would /tg/ Fight for him?
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>>51886732
I dropped the series because of that shit. That and the blatant harem fetish bullshit that started going on with Rand.
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>>51882341
You know what is disgusting about your ancestors though? At least some of them a long time ago were slugs.
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>>51869257
>> No matter where you go or what you're trying to do, your party seems to spend a lot of time on the brink of Annihilation.
>Every time, the DM stop the action for long-winded, gratuitous descriptions of various enemies, such as mighty lannisters, hardened Tyrells, Raiding Greyjoy, the Thenn of strong, uncivilized men, and the rising undead.
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>>51891177
Do you have time machines back in 1930?

Because I sure as fuck want one.
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>>51892192
7:30 PM dork
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>>51892192
7:30 PM you dumb cunt.

By the way, I'm off work now. At 2100.
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As someone who is deeply interested in medieval or exotic cuisine, I didn't even notice that the books had an overabundance of descriptions. I remember a couple of feasts mentioning the dishes, but at no point I thought "wow you rarely see so much emphasis given to food." You'd think I would have been impressed.
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>>51892464
>dork
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>>51890648
Genuine Inquiry: What would you say is better then?
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>>51891372
Yup. If I lost about 20 kilos, I mean. Stannis the Mannis a best.
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>>51869257
Huh, seriously thought this was a different thread, about common flaws in writers' work

What happened to that one, was it kill?
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>>51893580
Its still up
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>>51869365
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>>51894705
Link it, am blind retard apparently
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>>51895036
>>51874882
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>>51895059
Yes yes anon, extreme hilarity, but no, it was a different thread with the same OP pic
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>>51884301
Is that screenshot... related? Where's it from?
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>>51869257
What's his beef with Tolkien
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>>51869257
Speaking of heavyset fantasy authors with odd culinary taste, I will never understand Andzrej Sapkowski's fascination with Duck in Aspic.
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>>51895748

Martin has no beef with Tolkien
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>>51869257
TAX
POLICY
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>>51896344
The way he keeps mentioning Tax policy, says otherwise
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>>51896619
Nah, I think you're just fucking retarded.
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>>51896351
>Taxing the Peasant
>When they till tour land.
Enjoy crop failure My Lord
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>>51897804
And what use is there in them farming the land if we can't tax them to get a share of the produce?
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>>51895160
Some Dragon Quest 3 manga by Shindol.
Tangentially related.
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>>51882341
It was monkey people ancestors, not black people ancestors....you racist
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>>51869257
Don't forget the clothes.
Whoever owns the patent on velvet doublets in Westeros must be richer than the Lanisters.
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>>51888013
I wouldn't beer-baste venison.
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>>51896619
Come to think of it, do they ever actually discuss economics in Game of Thrones in anything other than a 'PEASANTS ARE SUFFERING BECAUSE TAXES' or 'NO MONEY BECAUSE TOO MUCH LOANS' kind of way? Because I really don't think that adds anything to the narrative.
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>>51881354
I'm actually pretty /fit/, but I agree that in a traditional historical-style RP feasts and celebrations are the best way of showing different cultures. Do they pray before meals? Do they have clean halls and civilised conversation, or is the entire town invited and eat alongside the pigs? A lot of subtle nuances that show culture can be shown in such situations that you wont see in everyday settings, as every human settlement is largely similar, just with different architecture.
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>>51869257
>Every time, the DM stop the action for long-winded, gratuitous descriptions of various delicacies, such as oxtail soup, summer green tossed with pecans, grapes, red fennel, and crumbed cheese, hot crab pie, spiced squash, and quails drowned in butter.

Ok
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>>51894731
>Rhodoks
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>>51901040
>Rhodiaks
>>
Soes this actually happen
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>>51869257
Martin was a mistake.
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>>51872520

mount and blade, butter is a cheap resource and you can stack tons of it and it goes with everything

Its also light as fuck

As a result, butter tends to be used a lot by power-gamers

Also the way the AI works, the leader of a faction will call for a feast if morale is low or a lot of places are under-attack. Swadia is located dead in the center and tends to become a clusterfuck of warfare from the get-go, leading to a lot of feasts being called for.

Over time, the idea that Swadia is a land of eternal war and feasts, in which massive quantities of butter is the sole currency formed.

At least its not this fucking dickhead
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>>51874172

>rebelling against the crown

if he was some dude, I'd get why you'd be upset

but you don't fuck with the crown, especially in the shithole that is spain, and expect a good death
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>>51899024

>Shindol

so who gets their legs cut off?
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>>51892511

Sauce?
>>
Having not bothered with the Game of Thrones franchise, I'm immediately reminded of 20000 leagues under the sea, which when not talking about mercury-salt electrical batteries, seemed to ramble incessantly of the fruits of the ocean and the meals they had.
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>>51907335
https://nhentai.net/g/170079/
Here you go
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>>51883560
I've read this. I dropped it because it all came down to >muh bleak world view
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>>51891372
Maybe after he saves the Night's Watch from the wildlings. Before that, I'd go for the Starks.
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>>51909468
Amen.
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>>51875164

I bet all you "read" is comics. Oh, my bad, "mangas".
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>>51889809
Did the mean man stub your autism bone?
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>>51909468
>Supporting a Traitorous dumbass.
Robb was his own worst enemy
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>>51869257
>oxtail soup
>Oxtail
WWWWWOOOOOOOOYYYYYY

Nah best oxtail is served with Coconut Rice, Seasoned and Steamed Vegetables mainly Cabbage, Baked Macaroni, and plantains

Fuck allat soup shit B
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>>51883750
>first things he does is rape a woman since he doesn't believe it's real
WFT is wrong with him? How could he think that rape is best reality test. "Oh I feel little enchanted after this morning. Better rape first woman I will met to check if I am not playing at Inception"
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>>51911827
>That single act fucksnhim over for the rest of his life.
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>>51911827
MC has severe personality issues and goes out of his way to be the biggest asshole possible. Everyone in the fantasy world puts up with his shit to an annoying degree because he's the designated hero and actually does his job right.
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>>51911827

Because he's SEVERELY messed up due to

A) Getting leprosy

B) His wife leaving him and taking his son with them because of aforementioned leprosy

C) Him half convinced this is the best thing for everyone

D) Him becoming completely isolated from everyone he knew before, down to the point where the local store sends him groceries by having a guy throw them at his door rather than risk him walking into town to buy milk.

E) Him becoming impotent from all the trauma, although at the time he ascribes it to purely physical problems due to leprosy, instead of psychosomatic ones due to how he was fucked over.


It's not a way of testing the "reality" he's in. He's already completely convinced it isn't real and pretty fucking lost it.
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>>51882676
>When the DM asks you to read back his notes because he can't make out the letters any more.
GNU Terry Pratchett
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>>51912044
>>51912021
>>51912005


Is there such a thing as a That Guy of literature?
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>>51913361
Short answer: no.

Long answer: No. Stop using words you don't understand.

Longer answer: "That Guy" is the guy in the group who doesn't fit in, especially because of malice. They break a group's social contract and cause friction. He's the guy who wants to talk his way out of every fight in a party of murderhobos, and the murderhobo in the party of diplomats, particularly if he made those characters that way in spite of knowing what the rest of the group wanted to do. Authorship is a solitary pursuit, so talking about a "That Guy" of literature is akin to asking if a pool player is more of a kicker or a quarterback. It's like asking if a marooned man or a hermit is "socially awkward" in isolation. In other words, no, the concept itself is inherently contradictory and fucking nonsense, and you should sit on a d4 and think for a damn minute before you make another stupid post using jargon you don't get.
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>>51885303
I see no insults, only a exhortation to personal growth.
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>>51875005
Brevity is the soul of wit.
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>>51869289
what, you don't like the fat pink mast or "the more she drank, the more she shat"?
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>>51888013
Wow, yeah, you really set the scene, there.

Now, does the scene do anything to propel the conflict forward, or reveal some new aspect of the characters' personalities or their relationships to one another?

Oh, it doesn't? Then into the bin it goes.
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>>51895778

Duck is greasy, Andrzej is fat, seems self explanatory
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>>51916376
>Letting centuries old dick jokes dictate his worldview
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> No matter where you go or what you're trying to do, your chapter always seems to have to be saved by some blue smurfniggers in power armor.

>Everytime, the librarian stops the action for long-winded, gratuitous descriptions of how they're all the best, such as being the highest caliber of spess mahrheene, hating the newcron codex, and murdering Adeptus Sororitas.
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>>51916398
No
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>>51916479
Not so much. Duck is delicious. Duck in Aspic is taking otherwise delicious meat and suspending it in meat jelly. That seems just kinda nasty.
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>>51892891
>mfw no one suggests anything better, they just keep bitching about every fantasy author ever.
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>>51889809
Or, you know, starving. Not that you have been anywhere close to that feeling in your life, anon.

>>51916440
Not literally every sentence has to propel the plot forward. This wouldn't be a children's book where you have 20 pages to tell a story. Besides for all you know this group has been on the brink of death from starvation for days. But by all means keep reading stuff like
>The baron hired the mercenaries
>They left the town
>They showed up
>Greg said "Fuck you die" to the dark wizard
>Greg stabbed the wizard
>"Die"
>He died!
>They all got paid
>Later they all eventually died because that's what happens
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