/CofD/ &/wodg/ Chronicles of Darkness and World of Darkness

FIRST FOR MAGE SUPREMACY

>>51834720
My changeling, an Ogre Dragon/Ifirit (special Ice Variant)

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>>51834732

Life Mages don't need to eat to gain Endorphins.

>>51834732
All the sex they have and the joys of solving mysteries does more than enough to keep their endorphins up.
In case of emergency, forcing your brain to release endorphins is just a ruling practice.

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>>51834621
@ Entropy mages

>>51834755
>>51834762
I did point out that Thyrus are kind of a weak point in the plan, but 4 out of 5 branches of mages isn't bad for a whole sale plot. I just need to think a little harder on how to rob a Thyrus mage of their magic just long enough to kill them.

>>51834791
Like working my magic on your whore so that while your basking in the after glow she stabbing you 49 time with a Hedgespun dagger that doesn't inflict pain, but rather pleasure, and very real wounds.

>>51834762
>forcing your brain to release endorphins
I don't see this ending well.

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>>51834791
I too, also try to solve my problems with poison.

>>51834550
Excellent choice. Runner up prize goes to the Janitor from Scrubs.

>Be Janitor at hospital
>Watch a lot of sick people take months to get better
>Notice some wrecks who should be organ donors are fine by following morning
>nurses don't seem to care about their rapid recovery
>mop by their room's clipboard
>write down their names and addresses
>Also there's this dorky post grad going for his residency who also tries to be my friend
>He's probably trying to suck me dry, I'll deal with him tonight.
And the hunt begins.

So fellow Hunterfags, what's the best hunt you ever had?

>>51834831
It works.

Because magic.

>>51834831
>I don't see this ending well

Says you and no one else

>>51834852
>tonight, on a very special episode of 'Scrubs'

>>51834895
No I see that ending bad too, in an endorphin addiction. Enjoy your persistent Addiction condition, and then enjoy the spiral when you squeeze your glands dry trying to get that next fix.

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>>51834737
>MAGE SUPREMACY
what supremacy? taking the knot?
that's the only supremacy I can think of

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>>51835002
>Implying a Thyrsus can't identify hormone imbalance and cure it in the same round
>Implying a Thyrsus can't boost your estrogen production and give you bitch tits for doubting her


>>51834163
The matter mage who has replaced his organic body with a swarm of nano bots or liquid metal would take pride in never needing to eat or breath or sleep. He'd be like that AI from GiTS, foregoing all need for biological functions, he's completely rewritten his body into a programmable and rebuildable living metal form, he's better than a cyborg. He's that other terminator in terminator 2.

And like the the terminator, he won't stop until your fruit stand has been turned to Francium so the first of your fae tears to touch it will engulf the two of you into a violent explosion.

Fatal to anyone without a liquid metal body.

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>>51834221
should read
>>51835521

If it's any consolation...I'm sure that entropy mage would chow down on some scrumptious pineapple...he'd probably shoplift you to get at it after hearing your sale's pitch because entropy players are cheap irl and ig.

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>>51835739

Shitposting aside, a strange vendor selling unknown magic fruit is a decent Mystery to start off a Chronicle.

>>51834720
>Among all the characters you've made for any of the WoD/CofD splats, which one is your favorite to this day and why?

My hermetic mage from house flambeu who was also a former Cobra Kai.

Basically i love playing mage as stupid thematic mage who solve all his problems with various applications of fire instead of just summoning a flesh eating bacteria or some shit.

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>>51834721

From page 110 MtAw
>Mages have a number of means by which they can open their eyes to the supernatural, seeing (or even hearing, smelling, touching and tasting) the subtle currents of super- natural powers at work in the world. While all mages have an innate sixth sense to detect the presence of active powers (see above), it does not allow them to identify or analyze such powers. For that, they need to enchant their senses with one of the Unveiling Practices of the many Arcana.

Any supernatural power leaves its resonance lingering behind.


The Thyrsus wouldn't know exactly what you did to the pineapple, but she would see the enormous red flag that is its resonance as easily as she would notice you've taken a bite already.


Being able to tell it's a juicy ripe pesticide free pineapple raised in an organic mulch of steer manure and pearlite with earth worm soil blend would be a perk of Thyrsus sight, but pro farmer market shopping is not what it's for.

You're still on a one way trip to pound town.

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Has anyone here played CofD Mummy? Fantasized about playing? Tell me about it. I'm reading through the core book now and it's pretty fuckin cool

What the fuck is up with these smug anime girls?

>>51837026
Some avatarfagging shitposter.

This general needs more memes.

>>51835002
You do know any chemical addiction is trivially fixed by life 1 or 2 right? And it doesn't even need to be lasting.

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plz halp. I don't know what resonance my npc shoud have in mage. wat do?

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Moving along with the Changing Breeds rewrite. So far the most inexplicable thing about them to me is their intense WtA-esque butthurt over the urbanization of Man and the destruction of nature. I could see being upset at habitat loss, but they don't explicit go running wild with other animals, nor is there any sort of Gaia earth mother world-soul to defend from an evil corrupting force of the cosmos.

It falls really flat when you don't have metaplot justifications for why they're crazy assholes.

>>51833949

I was going to buff their healing and snip out any egregiously broken mechanics.The whole Feral Heart and Harmony thing feels a bit dumb though, Delusion is like a sillier version of Lunacy, and I'm not sure I care for them having a Death Rage-lite when none of them appear to be the children or blessed ones of Luna. So i'm thinking about getting rid of it entirely. Death Rage feels more like an Uratha thing and would explain why they are The Best warrior-hunters of all the shapeshifters. That or selectively limit it to predator breeds or cantankerous herbivores like Tigers and Bulls.

Can I get a Y/N on these Vampire/Mage Steam games without any creator drama? Has anyone run through them?

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>>51834720

I had a really mouthy Corax reporter and author who would travel the globe stirring shit. She got dragged into a Hengeyokai game and was nearly assassinated by a demon ninja Buzzard. Later there was a Tremere trying to summon a kaiju to destroy the Tokyo branch of the Beast Courts because of course that would happen and she stuffed a sun grenade up his robes. Good times.

Also she was thicc and had huge titties but I was too afraid to mention this part so I kept it to artwork I never showed anyone. They all assumed she was a skinny ass goth-wanna-be with glasses.

Pic sort of related.

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>>51838286
The writing is terrible, even without taking who made them into account. It's absolutely horrible, and does not take the medium (texting) into account. People end up texting back PARAGRAPHS within minutes, supposedly while fucking or fighting.

The Vampire plot is incredibly stupid, with thinbloods apparently fucking around enough and breaking masquerade constantly but OH NO ALL THE ELDERS HAVE BEEN CALLED TO THE EAST for some reason so no one is killing them for it. Like, not even Hunters or anyone else.

The Mage one ends up with a DEEP CHOICE SYSTEM where you can choose to help put an upper cap on immigration in Sweden or not. For some reason, the Technocracy cares a lot about this issue, despite being in space and going to planets and shit.

>>51838346
Torrent when? I´m curious enough to play it, but not to buy it.

>>51838361
Yes, please, do not give your money to it. You can find enough screencaps lying around on the internet to honestly get a feel for it.

No news on it being pirated yet though. I guess you could try playing it super fast and getting a refund on Steam for it.

>>51838346
Alright. I've never played a text-based text game before so I was curious.

>>51838387
There are decent games done via text or a literally texting-on-phones format, but this isn't one of them.

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>>51838286

Tentative yes. Vampire starts off okay and as an interesting concept, but it shoddily written and full of left wing agenda. Mage however is pretty great, and the politics are even handed, it's just quite short. About 8-9 hours of content, before running through to see what differences there are.

Mostly though, it's the first pieces of content for the OWoD, and it needs supporting if only so we get bigger budget projects, and they aren't exactly expensive.

>>51838379
>>51838410
The one screencap of like someone texting someone else (I guess this is essentially the game) with the severed torso on the couch was what made me interested. Kinda Neon Demon vampire vibe. I didn't know anything about the Mage one except that it's in Sweden.

>>51838326

>kept it to artwork

You actually drew it yourself or had it drawn by someone else?

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When I use the Prime 4 attainment to make an Imbued Item, what determines the size of the Mana battery? When you start with one, the Merit rating decides, but there's no rules I can find for ones you make.

>>51837980

Well, technically there should be a spirit of the whole earth since everything has a spirit, right? Maybe the venerate that. Just throwing in some thoughts, I've never read the books.

>>51838490

Drew it myself.

>>51838326
Post THICC

>>51838493
It explains it at the bottom of the Attainment description.
Base of 1 point of Mana capacity, but you can add additional required successes to increase that capacity by 2 per success added.

>>51838761

I will when i'm not at work, promise.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HoCgoLAnK2blvtrin4hFRK32LF2l4VbSZtnA6UxU84w/edit?usp=sharing

So because I didn't get a real chance to see people's reactions other than one guy and mage shitposters I'm posting this again.

Also, to that guy who's games have been ruined by Jojo, I am sorry for you and I hope this does nothing but help by giving your shitter GM's actual rules to work with

>mage supremacy

>>51838442
The problem with the Mage one is that it is set in Sweden.
It's... just disgusting self-promotion for them to do that, when the US have ALWAYS been at the heart of WoD stories.

>>51839552

Silly anon, WoD is about Europe now. =^)

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>>51839520
>>mage supremacy

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>>51839568
Too bad both Berlin and London by Night sucked absolute cock. I'm fine with them going more international, but Sweden is bullshit because it's a backwater that they only give a shit about because they're from there.
>>51839321
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HoCgoLAnK2blvtrin4hFRK32LF2l4VbSZtnA6UxU84w/edit?usp=sharing
I NEEDED THIS IN MY LIFE! My only suggestion at a 10-minute glance would be to add in more rock and roll references, it is JoJo after all.

>>51839568
That is EXACTLY the problem.
nWW are trying to ram their "oh look at us, we are European now, we are so cool!"-cock down the throat of everyone.

>>51839724
I tried, but honestly there was only so much I could do. Feel free to make suggestions though on specific names.

If it helps I did try to make sure that everything was at least a bit metal.

>that podcast where Chris Allen has obviously kidnapped a chav girl and forces her to play a game of WtF
listening to the poor slag stumble through the campaign with all her um's and uh's is as painful as the repeated beatings he's surely given her during the cuts to dead air.

>>51840088

Where can I find this cringe-worthy podcast?

>>51838286
N on vampire
Y on mage

I'm a Mage

Anyone tried statting out the Alienist legacy from left handed path in 2e?

I AM A PROUD MAGE SUPREMACIST

>>51840125
http://shoutengine.com/InSanityWeTrustProductions/

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>>51839855
I understand, and i'll suggest edits as I go through it over the next few hours.
>I did try to make sure that everything was at least a bit metal.
The gods could ask for no more than that.
>>51840088
I need to find this podcast as well.

>>51838709

Can you draw well then?

I need to bug Chris Allen about some 1e -> 2e Forsaken stuff from nwod, does he have a public email that can be contacted?

>>51838442
Even in videogames Mages win

>>51840177
I can only buy them together senpai, because Steam is kind of retarded.

>>51840088
Chav werewolves sounds fucking mint mate.

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>>51840356

Well that's subjective but I like to think I'm 'okay'

>Pic relate

>>51840437

That's not bad. Not particularly noteworthy, but far from the nightmare that I feared you would post. Okay then, when you have the time, post your Coraxfu.

>>51838775
Wow, I missed that. Is that only for exceptional successes?

>>51840481

Noteworthy takes experience and time I don't have at the moment, but I have a 5-year plan in mind to 'git gud' .. whenever it is I am able to make time from working myself to death.

Oh god, going back through Hamon has revealed just how bad some of my writing was for this. EDITING HAS COMMENCED ONCE AGAIN

>>51841749

At least you actually fucking write. I'm starting to get so damn disheartened that the vast majority of writers across various fandoms I'm part of seem to just vomit their biases, agendas and virtue-signals through a word processor.

I want politics and the social issues scene to be calm and relatively boring again.

>>51841895
I'll be sure to insert my liberal bias into the work at large now just to piss you off.


New Hamon Tradition of transqueer demikin anyone?

>>51841970

Haha, g-good one. W-wait, you are kidding, right?

Right?

>>51838286
I've started the vampire one on my phone on my rides to work, I must confess I'm pleasantly surprised for now, but I think the medium plays a good part in it, and going though it on my computer would probably be less immersive, if you see what I mean (big wallpapers with text in the middle vs your phone screen).
For the record, I didn't knew anything about the drama before it happened, and I don't care at all about e-celeb bullies and sjw literally shaking.

>>51841990

You must have really low standards and zero familiarity with the setting if you think any of that writing is even remotely decent.

>>51840088
>>that podcast where Chris Allen has obviously kidnapped a chav girl

Chris' wife is Polish. Are you sure that "chav girl" you're insulting isn't his spouse or other relative?

>>51842005
Have you ever actually read the fiction present in oWoD? Even if you like the underlying narrative in the books they aren't exactly the pinnacle of English literature.

>>51841989
........ you know, I'm actually wondering if I could write such an abomination and have it make sense when compared to the one homebrew tradition I did make. Maybe they get power from their condition...

(IF, and that is a huge if, I do end up doing this, it would probably be more otherkin with a sense of "Their madness is how they make their Ripple Energy". And I would make it full blow madness, no question about it.)

(again let me stress how HUGE the "If" is in that statement)

>>51842005
I did say enjoyable on my rides to work, not decent writing, but I understand having been bullied online by a freak was probably a troubling experience for you, so it's alright if you misread my post.
I noticed there's always one poster adamant about telling theses 'games' are cancer and everybody shouldn't buy them and support nuWWP, is that you ?

>>51840088
Is it a cute chav girl?

>>51842108

Mage one is cool, Vampire one is just ass and exceptionally misleading when your protagonist is some faggot thinblood who appears to not care about anything most of the time despite the traumatic experience of, you know, being turned into a shitty low-rent vampire.

>>51839552
>>51839568
>Silly anon, WoD is about Europe now.
>the problem with the Mage one is that it is set in Sweden

A chronicle set in London, Paris, Berlin or some other well-know and very large international and cosmopolitan city would hardly be objectionable, despite the majority of WW consumers resident in the USA.

However, Sweden if effectively the ass end of nowhere with little to no international, cultural or even mythological import to the average player. If you're Swedish, this is not meant as an insult to you or your country, but there no denying there's a reason why Sweden is virtually never a setting for any media outside of Scandinavia.

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>>51842107

I love you. We love you. Know that you are appreciated in this dark period of sweeping insanity.

>>51842207

Rome would also have been cool. Really anywhere but Scandenavia.

France in particular has been hit hard by the whole refugee thing. Why wouldn't you use that?

>>51842177
Yeah, the protagonist goes from "wtf is happening to me" to texting his friend "we're vampires and shit now so cool" in no time, there's absolutely nothing on him realizing the situation he's in and the dread or excitement you would expect from it.
I'm expecting better from the Mage one, based on the feedback I've read here, but it'll probably take some days before I finish it (unless this one actually pushes me to finish it at home).

>>51834720
Two, actually.

A Stonebones Ogre, who was part of a Hedge pirate crew (we were essentially the Pirates from Hook, as changelings). His whole bit was obfuscating stupidity; he had high mentals and the best investigation and occult score in the game.

Two, an Invictus Nosferatu/Galloi whose deal was he was the heir to a shipping company in the Victorian era, fell in love with his sister, got shipped to China and then spent most of the rest of his unlife fleeing from the disciples, other Galloi, of his sire, who he ate. He ran a Kindred shipping company focused on moving Kindred, Kindred artifacts, and such like that.

Both were fun.

>>51842108

Personally, I started out with high hopes for We Eat Blood and felt it started out slightly compelling, but I should have seen the warning sign that was the 'racist busdriver' you could murder, and in the long run it neatly fits >>51841895

Mage is far better, with more even handed writing, but it's also incredibly short.

I'm reasonably happy to have bought them, for Mage, and to support the One World of Darkness. (Have they dropped the 'One'? Seems just to be World of Darkness now.)

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>>51842213
>MFW my Giles image is reused

>>51842350

There needs to be more Giles. He was always a level head in an insane world.

>>51842335

> (Have they dropped the 'One'? Seems just to be World of Darkness now.)

I wouldn't be surprised if they did. It could result in a copyright issue, or lack of copyright protection, if they rebranded it One World of Darkness. Or maybe they just wanted to not mislead people. nwod is already Chronicles of Darkness so that subverts it there.

An unusual but useful spirit that I could imbue in one item using the werewolf ritual?

I don't want to go like "Spirit of fire into bullet" kind of thing, but more like "Spirit of Alcohol into Cola" kind of style.

>>51842372
To be honest, Giles and the Watchers is one of the inspirations for a faction of vampires in my not-WW attempt at coming up with an alternate vampire scenario.

>>51842390
I did 'spirit of wind' into gauntlets to get ranged punch one, and spirit of spying into car engine to report on an enemy's movements.

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Anyone looking forward to Agony? It's vidya, but its not like conversation is exactly jumping here, and unless it's a AAA sequel /v/ doesn't give a shit.

I'm looking forwards to wandering around what looks like the anus of a Tzimisce fortress. And being a Fallen fan is only a minor (...massive) part of that.

>>51842438

Honestly? It made me think more of WtA. Specifically places like Malfeas, or pain spirits in general.

vampire/mage new steam things torrent when

Two high level masters have gotten into a lover's quarrel and the entire councilia is feeling the effects. How should we go about solving this?

>>51842632
Walk in and speak with Prime the following

"Mommy, Daddy, Stop Fighting. You are making us scared."

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>>51842528
Can you even de-steam something from steam? Also, why would you want those steaming piles of shit?

>>51842431
can a Spirit of Trust be used to make people tell the truth?

>>51842708
It's influence would make them more likely to tell the truth, but wouldn't be like, truth serum. A spirit of truth would be better, it could influence raw truth telling.

>>51837860
This is a legitimately bad character.
But on the off chance this is not bait, their resonance would be of self-aggrandizement and self-righteous murder.

>>51842207
>Sweden
>No mythological import

I legitimately cannot tell if you're pretending to be retarded anon.

And I think you need to check out more Scandinavian media, you can do a lot without having to set things in cities of millions upon millions of citizens.
The Keeper of Lost Causes and Troll Hunter would make for amazing Hunter Chronicles, and Let The Right One In and a bunch of Swedish crime novels (And there are a worrying amount of those) are very good for inspiration.

I've basically copied shit from The Absent Ones and Evil (Although Absent One more so than Evil) 1:1 as Ashwood Abbey related stuff and been told it was some of the most horrifying shit my players had seen.

>>51842781
>>51842781
He's mostly there to generate plot hooks and involve the players in the world more. Hes not planned as a long lived recurring NPC unless the players do something to intervene with his overtly murderous goals. Its for a more over the top Mage game but I'm not going to pretend I write characters up well.

> their resonance would be of self-aggrandizement and self-righteous murder.
Would this color their spell casting much? Or just slowly drive him down the path of least resistance, more self righteousness and murder?

>>51842943
It would flavor their magic. Pillars of lightning for their Forces Spells smiting those who oppose him, summoning spirits of murder and delusion, giving people a distinct feeling of "That guy was right" when he casts Mind magic, that kinda thing

>>51842998
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/feb/20/what-statistics-say-about-immigration-and-sweden/

remove Trumptardism

>>51842943
Well, that makes it a little better. The character is more like a lightning strike at the plot instead of something normalized, I take it.
And it would most definitely color their magic. Big, broad strokes of color, strong invading scents, the taste if ozone and knowing you are right, with the confidence that follows.

>>51843021
I'm citing Sweden's own statistics on the matter, specifically the scb.

Politifact are being retarded on this matter, by citing a number that is unrelated.
They count non-violent crimes in the total, and they say because the total crime is down then there is no surge.
However rape has gone only up since the mid 2000s, with a slight hold in 2015 I believe it was.

These statistics are literally published on the SCB's own website with documentation as to how they were taken, you can LITERALLY go there RIGHT NOW and read them.

>>51843164
I will say this though, trusting Swedish rape statistics is problematic, because the way they count them is rather weird.

For example if I report an assault that happened in 1995 in 2016, then the crime is counted in the 2016 statistic, and the increase in sexual assault statistic are concurrent with an opening of sexual assault laws.

So of course take it with a grain of salt, but I'm going to believe the SCB's direct statistics on the incidence of rape over politifact citing total crime when I'm specifically talking over rape.

>>51843035
>Well, that makes it a little better. The character is more like a lightning strike at the plot instead of something normalized, I take it.
Yeah, I want the group to explore more of the shitty local area to flush out more of the setting for them, someone targeting local 'big names' seemed a solid route to go down. I'm hoping the more run down parts of the city help drive home how 'out of place' the more centralized technocratic controlled 'school' that the game is centered around is.

>And it would most definitely color their magic. Big, broad strokes of color, strong invading scents, the taste if ozone and knowing you are right, with the confidence that follows.
I'll integrate these into his spell descriptions when they come up. Thanks for the tips.

>>51843164
And I'm sure that you posted this without relevant links to the information you are claiming

Also, claiming politifact is being retarded isn't a thing that people who are correct on what they are talking about do. Now go back to your safe space where you can pretend your alternative facts are real like an Old World Marauder

>>51843229
http://www.scb.se/hitta-statistik/statistik-efter-amne/rattsvasende/

Here, find whatever relevant statistic you want.

But the relevant statistics are more easily available from their centre for prevention.
https://www.bra.se/bra/brott-och-statistik/statistik.html, they even have nice fucking colour coded graphs.

So i just finish the mage game app and got a couple of questions.

Does the menu on the upper right that shows you the spheres do anything?

And isnt it weird that a just awakened mage can go back in time with his phone? I though that was a time 5 spell.

>>51843330
>And isnt it weird that a just awakened mage can go back in time with his phone? I though that was a time 5 spell.
Not really. Freshly awakening mages display all sorts of feats of power they aren't technically capable of. There is one freshly awakened Son of Ether who made a time traveling car. Its not that out of place.

>mage supremacy

>>51843305
Now of course politifact who took the overall crime rate and said that crime had gone down and didn't check the rape statistics (Which are what I'm specifically talking about) didn't speak Swedish, and you probably can't read either one of these so help you.

Here's the specific page you want.
https://www.bra.se/bra/brott-och-statistik/brottsutvecklingen.html

The red line is sexual crime.

I want you to check what way it's fucking going.

Now if that still isn't enough for you, here's some details on sexual crime specfically.

https://www.bra.se/bra/brott-och-statistik/valdtakt-och-sexualbrott.html

So rape is up, and rape committed by strangers is the fastest rising category.

Anon.
Trump is a lying douchebag, but so is politifact if they claim rape is down in Sweden.

>>51842301
>the protagonist goes from "wtf is happening to me" to texting his friend "we're vampires and shit now so cool"
To be fair, basically the same thing happens in Bloodlines.

>>51843505
Hey mang, you got like a whole five minutes of pretending you didn't get the situation for each new faction you're introduced to.

>>51834720
I've started a YouTube LP of the Mage game, trying to be unbiased in my account of it as I go, but goddamn this thing is a trainwreck on so many levels.

>>51842942
>I think you need to check out more Scandinavian media,

I don't think you understood my last post.

The viewership of all of Scandinavian media is probably less than crap local reruns of most medium sized cities in the USA or UK. Scandinavian media is parochial, at best.

The discussion is not really about the quality of Swedish media (although you're free to bootstrap all of Scandinavia), but first, where it is in the zeitgeist of horror, sci-fi and fantasy, and second, is the audience for WW products remotely aware of it, do they care at al, and will it provide information and setting information they can relate to and actually want to explore.

It terms of overall interest and profitability, do you really believe a WOD: Stockholm or Malmo could ever compete with a WOD: New York, Los Angeles, Berlin, Paris, Moscow, Beijing, Shanghai, Tokyo, Buenos Aires, Rio, etc.?

>>51843625
Yes, if its good. Which I don't give Dracula enough credit to pull off just from what I've read about the man but I believe its possible.

>>51843625
Anon.
SKAM has a larger viewerbase currently than coronation street.

And if you're talking about the zeitgeist, I want you to think about what the most popular recent pieces of thriller media is, and there's actually quite a bit of Swedish stuff there.

And as for the idea that Shanghai would be more popular than Stockholm, maybe. But certainly not because of Chinese customers. WoD is a western phenomenon.

This isn't shadowrun, which has a large Japanese following. This is pretty much exclusively western.

>>51841990
It looks like the drama is all fabricated anyway. Reminds me of the Winterfox/Requires Hate thing. RPGnet is cancer at the best of times but the thread on that game there is like some kind of Kafka LARP.

>>51842207
How can you say that about Sweden when Finland exists?

>>51843777

>can't read archived threads

Notice that the defense force didn't show up until everyone but 4chan started seeing the VtM game. Notice how the anons in here were all making fun if how shitty it is.

Purge this eceleb fanboy cancer.

>>51842213
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nnoTHNryn0waJCYJxJ-RIOGqz2UINDTkCfJ78p8RLao/edit?usp=sharing

this is your fault. I'm not putting it on any of the main documents.

>>51843809
>Implying Finland exists.

So super scientists are basically like Contrivers from that mediocre Worm clone, Brennus?

Like they have to invent shit to use as placebos for their powers?

>>51844785
Speaking of Finland, would memes like Spurdo, Wojak, and Pepe actually be Weaver-allied spirits/totems?

I mean, if a big pile of trash can be one, why not memes?

>>51845087
Definitely, I mean memes are just intellectual trash.

>>51845087
There is an umbral realm called the tv zone filled with cartoon characters at war with each other. If you really wanted one as a totem you could try to befriend a meme spirit probably, but I doubt it would be powerful enough to even serve as a totem spirit. Be a solid arc to build its power tho. Spread dem memes.

>>51834720
My favourite is probably a Wayward I made for a Hunter: The Reckoning game that sadly did not get very far. I played him as really cold and emotionally dead inside, and had plans to dip into a lot of the Defender powers that made you tough. And I wanted to blow shit up and walk away from all of the explosions.

Feedback requested on homebrewed Horror:

http://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/main-category/main-forum/the-new-world-of-darkness/793173-the-horror-show?p=1046640#post1046640

>>51845069
... Kinda? The less it functions on established principles, and more on sheer gumption and "magick", the more likely it is to Paradox just like a Mage's spell.

So a Enlightened Psychologist could do all kinds of insane mind-bending stuff merely using some crazy "super-science" psychology, and perhaps a little chemistry.

You could also just use your power-suit to use Mind powers to blend in with a crowd, because Enlightened Statisticians proved that people pay less attention to people in business attire.

And everyone loves the hand-held optical-synaptic modification array, even if you need to be a trained, Enlightened scientist to work it. Even if it does just look like a short metal rod with a flashing light on the end.

>>51839552
I for one am glad to see less Bald Eagle wank in WoD.

Now I wish they'd just stop casting Australia as "There's no supernaturals there because everyone hates them"

I mean, ALL Werespiders that step foot in Australia get irrevoccably fuckmurdered? Come on.

>>51846344
I just don't think they want to encourage the "LELSPIDERS" Australian thing.

They ought to go with weredropbears.

>>51846344
>I mean, ALL Werespiders that step foot in Australia get irrevoccably fuckmurdered? Come on.
They did genocide literally every other insect shifter. It only seems fair to slaughter them on sight.

>>51846350
>I just don't think they want to encourage the "LELSPIDERS" Australian thing.
I wouldn't mind that, except
>Australian Umbra is canonically super hostile to all Shapechangers
>Werewolves fear to set foot there
>Ananasi literally get hunted down, killed, and dropped in the middle of the outback for setting foot there a minute - even if they flee to Iraq
>All of the native Shapechangers there are dead
>Pretty much all that's left are a small groups of Mokole (who never do anything) and Nagah (Who pretend not to exist).
>No native Vampire bloodlines
>No native Mages, closes thing is Kopa Loei that might be in NZ
>>51846365
That's not why they're b& - It's because they were responsible for causing the War of Tears that wiped out the Bunyip. WW literally just stamped one giant event into the history that deleted all Shapechangers from Australia.

But you know, the US gets two whole tribes, three if you count the dead one.

>>51846344
>WOD: Australia

Wereroos?

It's not entirely relevant, but my CofD interpretaiton of Australia is that with no native Uratha the Shadow is a fucking battleground towards the Outback, where native Aboriginals (and the Wise) merely tried to stop them killing all the humans, and thus instituted a great reverence for Spirits, hoping worship would placate them.

Then came settlement by Europe, and Vampires and Uratha and a lot more Mages, and everything went to hell.

>>51846417
Considering that Kangaroos actually do maim and or kill people, as well as survive high-speed collisions with cars, it'd be pretty valid.

There's also the Wedgetailed Eagle, which is one of the most terrifying birds in the world (but you know, Were-Falcons and Were-Eagles are on the list of things in canon that just got murdered as a sidenote. Don't even get some basic rules like the fucking Werecows.)

Were-Cassowary

>>51846417
>>51846459

Werewombats

>>51846522
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/7558903/Man-in-hospital-after-wombat-attack.html

>Bruce Kringle, 60, was stepping out of his caravan in the rural town of Flowerdale, when he felt something attack his leg.
>In an assault that lasted 20 minutes, the wombat brought him to the ground before climbing onto Mr Kringle's chest to continue the attack.

>>51846547

I've read that even Koalas are violent.

Does Australia have any native fauna that will not try to kill you?

>>51846577
Koalas are short-sighted and dumb, so if you get close to them they often won't notice you, then attack you in shock when you suddenly appear.

Most of the smaller animals are fine though, and the attacks from Roos and Koalas and the like aren't too common. Roos don't usually kill people, either.

The snakes, on the other hand, are fucked. Tiger Snakes chase people.

>>51846522
>>51846577
>>51846617
>tfw you realize how broken kinfolk would be for some of the thankfully extinct /non existent Australian were creatures.

>>51846617
>The snakes, on the other hand, are fucked.

Doesn't Australia also have many of the largest and deadliest insects?

>>51846617
Does WtF still have the "you were born as a werewolf, you just don't change until you're bitten" thing like WtA?

>>51846639

Don't worry, if the native were-fauna start getting uppity, just send in the mages.

>AussieSupremacy

>>51846654
>Does WtF still have the "you were born as a werewolf, you just don't change until you're bitten" thing like WtA?
The Bite is a LARP by night studios only thing isn't it?

>>51846654
>Forsaken
>you were born as a werewolf, you just don't change until you're bitten" thing like WtA?

You're born a werewolf, but being bitten has nothing to do with anything, first change or otherwise.

>>51846654
>"you were born as a werewolf, you just don't change until you're bitten" thing like WtA?
What?

In WtA, you undergo the first change as a result of stress. Usually murder the shit out of a classroom full of bullies or whatever, then your deadbeat parent comes and takes you away to turn you into a good little child soldier.

>>51846693

>WerewolfWarCriminals

>mage supremacy

>>51846693
I really liked that the Hunter reaction was to make what is basically a summer camp for the mentally disturbed.

>>51846933
How did this work? Wouldn't the hunters want to kill all the werewolf kids for being werewolves?

>>51846951
Well not all Hunters are blind murderers.
The compact was made by a couple whose adopted child went were-crazy, and it takes in similar kids and tries to help them by a combination of cult-deprogramming techniques, psychiatric help, and loving them.

It doesn't work that well, and the werewolves attack the camp all damn day.

>>51846951
Not all hunters are Waywards.

>>51847010

#NotAllHunters

>HamonInitiateSupremacy

Where do Hunters rank in the supernatural hierarchy?

>>51847730

Street level, below vampires.

In oWoD, can mages be possessed and still use magic? Could there, for example, be a kami or fomori mage?

Can anyone, not just changing breeds or kinfolk, learn spirit gifts?

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>>51847730

Usually as a bloodstain somewhere.

Actually, in all seriousness, I too would appreciate a genuine answer here. A lot of the imbued abilities seem like gimmicks, but a few seem genuinely pretty powerful. Of course physically they are just mortal. The healing times alone in Hunter are brutal.

>>51842207

I'm a Swede and I don't even want WoD to be set in Sweden. Leave it as the werewolf-infested shithole it was in oWoD and nWoD, when I play I set my games in the US anyway. It would feel silly for me to set a WoD game here, and I want a certain degree of escapism in my gaming, I don't want to deal with fucking arabs even in my fantasy make-believe fun-time.

>>51847878

God Tier
>Archmage

Top Tier
>Prep Mage
>Loud Demon
>Fresh Mummy

Middle Tier
>Mage
>Demon
>Sin-Eater
>Mummy
>Beast
>Werewolf
>Promethean

Street Tier
>Changeling
>Vampire
>Surprised mage
>Prep Hunter
>Hunter

>>51843229
How about looking at the source material instead of living in your safe space bubble, Anon?

>>51847984

Even a surprised mage is well above "street tier."

>>51847984
Why are vampires so low?

>>51848049
>Why are vampires so low?

Vampires should probably be Middle Tier in Requiem 2e. However, they are lower rated due to their very well known and easily exploitable weaknesses such as sunlight.

>>51845087
What would be Pepes ban?

>>51848065
Normies

>>51846401
Aren't there a ton of Dreamspeakers that come from Australia?

>>51848047

I agree, but it's not my list.

>>51848060

Probably in-between Promethean and Werewolf.

4chan is having a tantrum

>>51848078
I believe so, but the Dreamspeakers are literally a tradition of "Lump together everything we can't be bothered fluffing". Everywhere else in the world at least has some specific native flavour, but WW and OP have gone out of their way to kill off all of those in Australia.

>>51847984

Beast would =< Werewolf if it didn't have a few obviously bullshit outliers. The whole book is such a mess I don't feel like it deserves mechanical consideration.

>>51842089
Theres two women in the podcast. One is polish, the other must be the one theyre referring to.

Except she really doesnt sound like a chav to me.

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I'd marry a cute Thyrsus girl.

>>51849212
>being a Thyrsus
>being this tied to Sleeper Lies
>not creating your own perfect waifu with Life, Mind and Spirit
come back when you have Awakened, son

>>51849235
They never said they were a Mage, just that they would marry one.

>>51838877
Where's the THICC anon
You said there would be THICC

>>51849212
I'd burry her to, even make the sleeping beauty her own crystal coffin so she can Rest In Peace in style.

Goodnight sweet princess.

>>51848049
They are bitches

>>51849562
UGH THICKER

What scenarious would you guys recommend for a beginner GM?

>>51849940

Gehenna.

>>51849940
What splat? What are your players like?

>>51828136
Yes. Then, I would put actual clothes on top of that.

>>51843770
Well yeah, but isn't that his point?

Shanghai is exotic, exciting. Stockholm is the Cleveland of capital cities

>>51838557
Not *literally everything*. Trees in a planted forest probably don't have Spirits attached to them, unlike a 1000 years old oak which probably does. Also, Spirits roam around; a generic tree Spirit might travel from tree to tree to gain strength from it, without representing any specific tree in particular. The biggest spirits we know of are Luna (Moon Spirit), Helios (Sun Spirit) and Mother Ocean (merely mentioned). A hypothetical Gaia could cover all solid ground but there's no guarantee she exists. The Earth might as well be divided among Spirits of tectonic plates, or different strata of Earth, from the topsoil to the planetary core. You might just have Spirits of different terrains, like Spirit of all deserts, all forests, all plains, all fields or all mountains. These might exist, or perhaps every scrap of terrain has its own spirit without a higher authority.

>>51840088
She's a beginner. Give her a break.
>that podcast where Chris Allen has obviously kidnapped a chav girl and forces her to play a game of WtF
I chuckled at that mental image.

>>51849953
Thx, I'll have a look

>>51849956
The players... beginners too. But they liked the concept so asked me to try and GM.

Really would like to play a chav werewolf game now. You'd probably need Britbong players to end up with compelling and not hopelessly exaggerated chav chars tho

>>51849975
But its from the Aether requiring you to have it on full display when activating it.

>>51850159

>Thx, I'll have a look

I was fucking joking, anon. Don't go for Gehenna.

>>51836280
Just fantasizing. Imagine an idealistic Architect trying to master flow of Sekhem, in order to rejuvenate deserts and wastelands. It's not their final goal. The endgame is to use the pinnacle of their craft and Epic Utterances to one day TERRAFORM MARS. Centuries from now, they actually might succeed.

>>51850159
Okay, so what game line are you looking at? Old World of Darkness or Chronicles of Darkness? And beyond that, which splat?

>>51846988
I like the idea of the Compact, but its name is so on the nose I have a nosebleed.

>>51847984
>differentiate between kinds of mummies, mages and demons
>don't differentiate between methuselahs, ancillas and neonates

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>>51850331
>vampires

All of them are shit and all of them are below Mages

>>51847984
>>51850331
Oh whoops just saw it's CofD not oWoD my bad

>>51850338
>oh yeah let me just draw dicks on this ur-shulgi fag's face and oh why am I paste?

Archmages ok, but not regular mages

>>51850212
I think Chronicles of Darkness I want to do either Vampire or Hunter, not sure yet. Any recommandations for a beginner?

>>51850382
Both are pretty good. I'd recommend starting a Hunter games with simple mortals at first, then introduce compacts and the like.

>>51850382
Vampire is pretty newbie friendly. Hunter 2E isn't out yet. You can play the first edition if you want, but there are some 2E things that I really like. You can probably convert most of it to 2E pretty easily, but I don't know if you want to do that if you don't have any experience with the system.

>>51850363
Whatever makes you sleep better vampy

>>51850363
ur-Shulgi burns in the sun just like a newly Embraced fledgling

>>51850539
Any recommandations for a scenario? Or some pre-made stuff?

>>51850572
I guess I'll have a look at both of them. Thanks ^^

>>51850673
There's Reap the Whirlwind, a quickstart adventure for Vampire 2e.

>>51850176
What does it do?

So is Changeling the lost gonna come out in spring? If so which month of spring

>>51841895
> virtue-signal
Wow, they're really forcing that meme hard lately.

Does anybody have a decent ideas for Seers of the Throne pylon? All ideas I have look very bland to me, and I need decent antags for my players to hate.

>>51850923

Have you read the Seers of the Throne sourcebook?

>>51851060
Yeah, but I don't want just to take examples from here, and after writing 10+ cabals for Assembly and Consilium my creativity at it's lowest...

>>51850923
What do your friends hate about humanity? What do their PCs stand for?

>>51850923

Are you looking to create a multi-Ministry Pylon?

>>51850923
Fun fact, The Dragonball Z villain Frieza was inspired by land sharks - real estate manipulators who used dubious or outright illegal means to buy buildings and land for a steal and then sell it for profit. Mages like that could expand that into overtaking Mysterious Places for their own benefit.

>>51851180
I've just started the game, so not really sure about it - they haven't really fleshed their characters out.

>>51851214
Not really. I don't think such pylons can be functional in the long run.

>>51851247
The local top pylon is serving Mammon ministry and already owns anything it cares about and can get.

>>51851247
Or, make high society drug dealers who lace their merchandise with mind-controlling substances, while chilling with the VIPs.

>>51850923
>Ideas for Seer Pylons

Inquire if DaveB has any suggestions, here or on the OPP forums.

>>51851274
New Magic Places can show up out of nowhere. Like in a district where PCs reside and where people they like live.

>>51848149
4chan is unfortunately structured such that whoever throws the longest bitchiest tantrum wins.

> Joe has a job, a girlfriend, a well balanced life. He reads 4chan for fun on the train and occasionally posts.

> Dewy lives alone on benefits claimed after slipping on a supermarket soda spill. He has nothing and no one, and blames it all on Jews and Muslims. He posts 10 times an hour, 2 hours a day. He has a folder with 2,000 frog reaction pics, shoehorns in glowing references to the Third Reich, and anyone who disagrees with him is a cuck.

Even if there are 10 Joes for every Dewy, Dewy will 'win' because he just keeps posting and posting. No one has figured out the antibodies for this yet but I hope it's a matter of time.

NwoD 1e, space 4 dot, teleportation. It says that the mage can basically teleport anywhere that he has some sympathetic connection to, but it says nothing about distance. Connections can be gotten quite easily through photos and descriptions, so could a space mage just teleport to mars or wherever? Or did I miss some distance-factor?

>>51851490

There's no antibody and there doesn't need to be. Go back to playing beast.

>>51851580
That's your 25th post today, isn't it Dewy?

>>51851580
Hey! How's life?

>>51851625
>>51851646

I'm a married university student, sit here on study breaks, and the third reich was the best and you are a cuck.

>>51851529
Distance is part of the lie.

Question: Does DaveB still occasionally chime in around here, or is he off living his Hollywood life full of fast cars and hot lizards? I was hoping to ask for a quick ruling that I could show my GM.

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How many dots is gravitic Supremacy?

>>51851291
Why would you need mind-control, if you can just buy up politicians and whoever you want to?

>>51851778

Dave still posts under his own name on occasion.

However, by his own admission, he's recently been "cheating" by posting anonymously like most everyone else.

So, can we spot the secret DaveB posts?

>>51851669
You're clearly an impersonator. Do you think horrible people need your help to look bad? Do you enjoy this use of your time?

>>51851852

Can I play, too?

>>51851820
Because it's fun! Also less traceable. Also less time consuming. Also you get more bang for your buck.

>>51851947
There he is!

Alright, my question was this: Temporal Summoning returns stuff to its previous states, right? Broken things become whole, old people become young, etc.

If the spell remains in effect long-term, would they stay that way forever? E.g., if an old man got his youth back, would he grow old again over the years, or would he stay that age for as long as the spell lasted? Would he be able to go to college & learn new things, for example, if he didn't have that knowledge at the spell's targeted time?

my Acanthus may or may not have hypothetically undone someone's coma without realizing it would also turn them into a tween, and this has become relevant

>>51848060
In Masquerade Vampires as Antediluvian reach power that are beyond comprension of any other supernatural being. Tzimiske can literally live forever and transfer his conscience to any living being. A random 1000 year old can obscure the sunlight or just endure it for a very long time, A Fourth Gen Nosferatu such as Baba Yaga can basically "reshape" an entire large region of Earth such as Russia using her own will while just randomly owning Black Furies. Malkav has basically Omniscience. Some Brujah can just go back in time and kill your grandma when she was 3, even before you could even be awaken/experience first change, good luck as a mage on going 500 years back to track him before the vampire is sired.

But a random 13th generation stands little chance against other Supernaturals, even do he can still do something if he's smart enough.

And they are not even the most powerful ones, just think of Caine who is kind of "protected" by God itself

>>51851947
>Can I play, too?

>CheatersGonnaCheat

>DaveBSupremacy

>>51852107

That's all nice and well, anon, but they were discussing Requiem, not Masquerade.

>>51851778
>Hollywood life full of fast cars and hot lizards

Okay, this is the third time I've seen a joke about Dave and reptiles. Could someone explain this?

>>51852107
Do Antediluvians have a player template?

Because I'm pretty sure that list is only for player templates.

>>51851934

I'm saying that /pol/ is right.

>>51852241
>Dave and reptiles

DaveB and Komodo Dragons, the love that dare not speak its name.

>>51850121
well, if it's any consolation she does get better

she also brings to the front a problem I've found in a lot of werewolf podcasts involving beginners where the newly changed aren't given a good reason to join / create a pack or the reason doesn't feel natural from a plot standpoint.

>>51850699
Do you have a link or do you know where can I find that adventure?

>>51852382

It should just be "You're with us now, you little cunt" if the pack is older, or forced together by circumstance (or "You're a pack now, cunts" by an older, mentor-like pack in the area). I mean, werewolves aren't that complex imo, it's just alpha-shit.

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Do you think we'll see new WoD vidya announced at GDC next week?

>>51848187
No no no no no NO!

Jesus fucking Christ, why do you people keep repeating this? The Traditions are broad categories that cross ethnic lines (with the possible exception of the Akashic Brotherhood). The Dreamspeakers, broadly defined, are Shamans and animists, culture not withstanding. Mage splats are mostly ideological before they're anyting else. It is as possible to have a Scandinavian Dreamspeaker and an Australian Dreamspeaker as it is to have a Verbena who is an Igbo tribeswoman from Africa... and they do. An Igbo witch was the Verbena's representative at Doissetep as far back as the first edition of the game. It's not like Apocalypse wherein certain groups of shifters piggy backed onto different migratory ethnic groups.

>>51851274
If the top Mammon pylon has stopped acquiring, then they have failed. The Iron Pyramid is climbed in many ways, but always by passing ones' betters.
Maybe a new Mammon pylon is trying to usurp their betters. Perhaps some in the Mammon pylon have seen the knowledge of the Eye or the wisdom of the Paternoster? Is the Gate active, or have its guardians deserted their post by knives in their back?
Are their rumors of a Diamond cabal breaking apart to become part of the Iron Pyramid? Are they true or Seer propaganda? Long knives in the dark serve many masters.

>>51852979
We've already got the WtA game coming.
With any luck, though, the Vampire and Mage Preludes are actually preludes, and we're gonna get a Vampire game and/or a Mage game.

>>51852979
No. I'm not even holding my breath for more info on the Werewolf game.

>>51853010
>If the top Mammon pylon has stopped acquiring, then they have failed. The Iron Pyramid is climbed in many ways, but always by passing ones' betters.
They are betters in their region, and they are waiting for the result of Seer crusade in near region to fill up the vacuum of power.

>Maybe a new Mammon pylon is trying to usurp their betters.
They have one or two minor pylons doing their dirty work. I think those will try to rise up eventually.

>Perhaps some in the Mammon pylon have seen the knowledge of the Eye or the wisdom of the Paternoster?
This is interesting idea, but this pylon gets it's orders directly from Minister; Mammon has personal interest in this area. As power-hungry as they are, I don't think that members of this Pylon are stupid enough to fight each other. They have bigger enemy to care about.

>Are their rumors of a Diamond cabal breaking apart to become part of the Iron Pyramid? Are they true or Seer propaganda?
There aren't that many Diamond cabals in the area; more than a half are Free Council.

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>>51852833
that's just not good enough, what incentive would somebody who finds out they're a werewolf have to sit there and take all the cunts and get bamboozled into what they would only interpret as a PSYCHOTIC DEATH CULT

Chris' baby-momma's PC in that podcast had a great idea of "lets fuck with the newbie and show them how vulnerable they are without joining our pack" before they got plothooked out of it. something that forces them together by circumstance is also a nice route, but could feel contrived if done poorly

>>51852979

>another day
>Dark Eras Companion still isn't out

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>>51834852
Sig-Sauer Mk 25. Excellent choice... but you need to go deeper.
t. /k/

>>51852096
Intriguing question. I am inclined to say that if you cast a spell to make someone 17 years old, then they will damn well stay 17 years old while the spell's still on them.

>>51853330
Very soon now.

>>51838442
Plus the guy who wrote it, as well as being an edgy fuck, is also well known for harassing and stalking others in the industry who don't like him.

He's a grade-A cuntbag, as well as being a "lol im an edgelord" shit writer.

>>51834790
I don't get this? Entropy is awesome. It's the "Fuck you, Storyteller we're not doing that" Sphere.

>>51853884
>harassing and stalking others in the industry
Those are actual crimes. Crimes of which there are no charges and no real evidence. Its really weird people think they have anything convincing when if there was, formal charges would have been brought on him.

>>51840436
Until u get fukin shaved wiv a silva nife, m8.

>>51853758

Is the release of Signs of Sorcery also "very soon?"

>>51843428
Fuck off trumptard, your orange tyrant is basically finished by now.

>>51854166
Not that guy but are you capable of making any argument other than "TRUMP!"?

>>51853909

No one actually thinks they have anything convincing in a legal sense, it just comes down to anyone who really gets into Zak's craw just so happens to get threatening e-mails from people and just so happen to get ID theft attempts and people trying to find out where they live, if not worse. This is a consistent pattern with multiple people having the same kind of story.

Either Zak is exactly right and bunch of sex-negative, crypto-conservative people in the RPG scene have decided that he is so talented that he must be destroyed by pretending to be stalked and harassed, a bunch of obsessive Zak fans are doing the dirty work without his knowledge and he somehow can't even make basic attempts to do something about it, or he's doing something to set this sort of thing up within plausible deniability, if not outright mastering the DARVO technique.

Even if the truth is in the middle, it doesn't look great for him.

There's clearly some kind of skeevy shit going on around that guy, and that alone should have been a red flag to not hire him for your first outing in an IP revival. That it has clearly put some sort of wedge between White Wolf and its major licensor at the moment is sign enough that Dracula probably doesn't know what the fuck he's doing with the franchise.

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Play new CofD set in Sweden
>Run sandwich shop as day time human cover
>Get on internet to see what my group is up to
>Read about Parliament passing new Infant Circumcision Ban
>Go downstairs to get sandwich shop ready for day of business
>This happens
>Wellfared Swedes surround you for some snippy snippy

How would you character save his store?

>>51854325
I didn't know people could use swarm rules.

Any place one can download Preludes other than steam?

>>51854358
The apks for the android version are pretty easy to pirate.

>>51853909
You do realise that at least one person did report all of this to the police, and got told there was nothing the police could do about it, right?

It ended up with them having to move home for the harassment to stop.

>>51854408
That's because there isn't any compelling evidence he himself did anything.

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>>51854349
It's what makes straight humans the most dangerous splat in WoD
>>51854325
>Mage runs out of mana because only a 2 dot or below mage would run a cover like that
>Werewolves are mentioned in Quran so muslims carry silver already
>Vamps know Nig swarms run out of rocks they use sharp sticks

>>51854425
But enough screenshots, quotes from his own posts, and the similar events happening to multiple people who annoyed Zak that even if there isn't enough to take to court, you'd sure as hell think twice about hiring him unless you were just into the same sort of "lol im an edgelord" type shit he is, which Dracula seems to be.

Hell, I'm a damn socialist, and I think his "trans vampire who kills Trump supporters" shit is fucking retarded.

>>51854369
Ah, I was thinking PC version. No Android and no money for games.

(Or if you prefer insert some bullshit about never again supporting WW with my money for hiring Zak.)

>>51854325
>Your Cover is fucked
>Go Loud
>Fix some of Sweden's problems before the Angels show up

>>51854476
>"trans vampire who kills Trump supporters"
But its hilarious and based on 4chan's own linetrap! Its not like I haven't met people that if they suddenly got powers wouldn't abuse them to hurt people they label as non-human.

>>51854512
Remember, it's okay to punch Nazis.

>>51854543
If the left ever realizes what fascists they've become all this written evidence will be comedy gold.

>>51854512

>but it's hilarious and based on 4chan's own linetrap!

It's a pretty lame scene, especially when you compare it to Bloodline's attempts at comedy, which were better. That it'd be something someone would do doesn't really change anything.

That's the other thing, the game in general's pretty tepid stuff, even with the hints at the new metaplot. All this controversy, all for a mediocre game.

>>51854654
>mediocre game.
Yeah the text messages seemed like a poor setup given how much dialog there was, and that's without even getting to the writing.

I did enjoy ending immigration in Sweden though. The filthy Batini Reality Deviants can go ruin their own country some more.

>>51854559

It would break them, so instead they double down the self deception and zeal for the 'cause', and get ever more radical.

We're witnessing the birth of the atheist extremist.

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>>51854692

Social extremists. It's actually fucking terrifying, because people will be horrific things for an ideal they hold sacred, just as easily as a religious extremist will.

>>51854692
>Atheist extremist
What are some hardcore anti-clericalism.
What is Leninism and derivatives.

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>>51854543
It's always okay to punch Nazis. If it was okay for our grandfathers, it's okay for us.

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>>51854543
>>51854835

It's hilarious to see fascists get triggered by being punched, when they often advocate the death of any that aren't from "the white race".

If black people are taking all their women, and there is a white genocide, then if anyone is a cuck, it's a white supremacist/fascist.

>>51854445
>implying any of those unfortunate individuals brought any silver with them
>implying any of them are wolf blooded / kin
just walk in and shift to warform

>>51854871
...

What?

>>51854925
Just more doubling down.

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>>51854543
>Support group that advocates the use of force targeted against individuals for real or perceived racial membership
>Get butthurt when people use force against you for your political membership

>The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw, and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind

Nazis: Able to give it but not take it since 1939.

>>51834720
I'm currently playing the most well-adjusted Tzimisce Anarch in existence. She's the progeny of another PC from a game about escaped shovelheads running around trying to figure out what they are. She's an anarch because, well, where the hell else can she go? The Sabbat is a total non-starter and the Camarilla has the organized Tremere clan. She supports herself through a late-night monster-movie show that follows a presentation format.

She's also a bit of a killing machine. That game was run by a first-time GM who was COMPLETELY out of his depth and it went funny, funny places. He let our most twacky player make an abomination and be all like "LOL Stay away when I start to frenzy, guys" So I went straight for Celerity, Horrid Form and took Potence as an additional discipline because Former Ghoul. The bubbly TV personality was a dyed-in-the-wool werewolf killer. Now I have an absolute killing machine in the body of chinese girl who runs a mandarin language Monster movie show. Thankfully she has good socials and utility abilities, so she isn't all chainsaw, no mouth.

>>51854835
As much as I liked seeing Richard Spencer getting punched in the face... you're lefties. Nazis are anyone who doesn't agree with you. I have no doubt in my mind that given the opportunity, you will define the label "Nazi" down until it's okay to punch everyone in the face who didn't vote the way that you wanted them to.

>>51854968
Are you deliberately missing the point to make some kind of joke?

I hope so.

>>51854803

Fair enough, but bear in mind 'politics was boring' until recent years, and extremism was something that happened when someone brown strapped a bomb to themselves or stole a vehicle. I'm still learning all this shit, partially in alarm that a decent percentage of the population seem to be going fucking insane.

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All this talk about Nazis and lefties dividing the country has lead me to the conclusion that the only way to unite our nation is under the watchful eyes of a benevolent, all powerful monarch, unhampered by petty factional politics.

>>51855118
>benevolent
>all powerful
Pick one.

>>51855140
We've found a Roundhead! May we burn him?

>>51855140

Benevolent if you are in the right group.

>>51854871


The thing is the "fascists" of the 2000's are not violent, they are just political activists who are proposing and advocating change peacefully (deportation is peaceful and withing the law). And in return they get violence directed at them by those that are politically in line with the establishment (anti-fa types) who get off lightly. You do not see who the good guys and bad guys are in this situation?

>>51854835
>mfw I see an antifa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrOIgwaIlrc

>>51854684

It's really weird considering that there are games with the exact same conceit that do the job way better. You'd think that someone on that team would have played Lifeline or even something like Mystic Messenger.

>>51855173

SHUT THE FUCK UP, GANDHI. THE ONLY WAY TO PURGE THE CORRUPTION AND WEAKNESS FROM OUR SOCIETY IS BY WHIPPING THE IGNORANT (MILLENNIAL) MASSES INTO A FRENZY AND INDIRECTLY UNLEASHING THEM UPON OUR CRITICS-ERRRR I MEAN THESE MORALLY BANKRUPT FASCIST MODERN DAY NAZIS!

>>51852107
None of that is impressive by Archmage standards.

>Malkav has basically Omniscience
I think you're getting a tad bit confused about what Dementation 10 does.

>Baba Yaga can reshape Russia
That's not what she did. She warded off the European side of Russia from outside shenanigans. She's still extremely powerful. I was rather annoyed over how she died.

>think of Caine who is protected by God
Prime 6 can remove blessings and curses from God. Unless God himself intervenes, Caine is screwed.

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>>51855173
>deportation is peaceful

Uh-huh. Definately not going to turn into a shoot-out when you start sending Not!Gestapo house-to-house to round citizens with the wrong ancestry up for 'peaceful deportation'.

Dunno about you, but if a bunch of self-proclaimed fascists/nazis managed to get into power and started offering free train rides to those they'd decided were 'undesirable' again, I wouldn't be coming peacefully.

>inb4 b...but it'd be peaceful if people just accepted it like good little sheeple

Move it down the line.
>>51855257

>>51855273
Dementation 3 already allows gives you Sherlock insight, so Dementation 10 giving you pseudo omniscience isn't a stretch. Malkav probably has Auspex 10 anyway.

>>51855283
Ah, that's cute. It thinks it's not actually the fascist.

>>51855318
It's not a stretch. It's going from the actual source material. Malkav doesn't become omniscient. But he DOES become Professor X from X-Men, somewhat kinda.

>>51855283

>I want a growing Islamic world culture and religion planted right in the heart of my country
>I'm okay with them refusing to adapt to the local culture or even learn the language
>i'm okay with, under ideal circumstances, it taking GENERATIONS for their offspring to integrate well enough into the native culture
>i'm okay with their own culture infringing on my freedoms and offering nothing in exchange save some shitty food and boosted crime statistics

>>51855283

So very much hyberbole and projection. Oh dear Malkav, the projection.

The issue these days is immigration. If you are are a country illegally then it is, and has been for the last century, perfectly 'normal' to expect deportation back to your home nation.

We are actually at the point that the law being followed properly is actually be considered a social evil. I... what the fuck is even...?

>>51855273
Malkav was cursed by Caine with Omniscience, that caused his dementia as a conseguence.

I guess that it's not that easy to remove his curse from God, otherwise he would have removed that millenias ago.

>>51855372

Exactly. And it's not even inspired by fear; I live in fuckall nowhere, see a different ethnicity every hundred people at most.

The tide is changing. People are getting pissed, and the 'protests' are accomplishing fuck all.

>>51855118
>benevolent, all powerful monarch


Benevolent, all powerful Hierarch.

FIFY.

>MageSupremacy

>>51855433
That's not exactly how it went down, Anon.

I'm just going to drop this and move on to the next thread.

>>51855283

Residence in a country other than the country of your birth is not some kind of natural right. If you oppose the law then you deserve what is coming to you, you can't blame the policemen for that.

>>51855433
>I guess that it's not that easy to remove his curse from God

Go find a Prime 6 Archmage to do it.

>>51853281
Fucking saved

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>>51855118
We nearly have one. I, for one, would celebrate the return of power to our glorious monarch, Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and of Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith.

>>51855173
>antifa
>establishment

Pick one.

>>51855740
>A German
>My queen
[Jabobitism intensifies]

>>51855773

>Pretending Obongo and other Lefty spokesmen aren't supportive of them

>>51846675
Yeah, the bite is only mentioned in the BNS version.

>>51854124
Who the fuck owns a silver knife?

>>51854256
I don't necessarily think Zak is right in his summation of his opponents but I absolutely don't believe shit about what gets said about him. Like it's plainly not who he is, and the numerous people who *are* in the minority demographics he's accused of attacking, that he works with, are the evidence of that. Like the person he wrote this VtM game with, who is the primary reason why I was even interested in this VtM game. When Sarah Horrocks talks about or makes comics they are worth paying attention to, I am interested in her writing a game. And we get a thing now where non-trans people criticize the trans character in a game written by a trans person and based on an IRL trans associate of one of the authors. Because it has the same name as some other author, and does vampire stuff.

I've seen the harassment log of that one woman and to me it looks like both sides are trapped in some kind of outrage cycle. It's easy to see why Zak would take a numbers-filed-off complaint as a direct attack - not saying it's correct, but I wouldn't consider it harassment either.

>>51857810

>ased on an IRL trans associate of one of the authors

A character with a name that is suspiciously the same as a trans-woman RPG developer that ZakS has been critical of in the past and also been target of harassment.

Totally unrelated right? Right.

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>>51854226
Trump's bad enough that you literally don't need any other argument

>>51854692
>the alt-right is the ones in actual government control
>but let's worry more about fringe idiots on the left with literally no power to accomplish anything or enforce their idiotic beliefs in mainstream society
>no, "zir" showing up in RPG books does not count as mainstream society

>>51851780
2 to control it, 3 to make it stronger or weaker.

>>51858145
>actual fascists lost the election
>not worrying about them re-surging and committing violent acts they constantly endorse against their ideological opponents when they so easily straw-man people as such

>>51858113
And you wonder why you're out of power.