Never played dnd before, have no one irl to play with or teach

>>51811992
I'm almost positive the Sun would win. No Lion could ever get close enough to attack, and the innermost lions would combust, creating a hazard for the lions behind them.

>>51811992
Just look at the site for a while
http://dnd.wizards.com/
5e is a good place to start

>>51812143
Now the sun has to deal with a trillion flaming lions. How is it going to do that?

>>51812209
By waiting.

>>51812143
Then again, if it's a battle to the death, the Lions win by default, since the Sun is not alive to begin with.

>>51812209
isn't a trillion flaming lions really just the same thing as the sun?

>>51812143
A trillion lions in space might create their own gravitational field and intense heat and pressure, resulting in nuclear fusion.

So the real question is who would win: the sun, or a sun made of lions? I know who I'd bet on.

>>51812238
That's what it wants you to think.

>>51812247
>The sun is fire
The sun is an ongoing nuclear reaction, basically a turbonuke. Flaming Lions =/= nuclear reaction.

>>51812256
Just saying, a Lion the size of the Sun would produce far, FAR more heat than the Sun does.

>>51812256
You idiot. Average mass of a lion is 420 lb. The mass of the sun is 4*10^30 lbs. A trillion lbs is 10^12. You get where I'm going here?

>>51812256
A trillion lions is at best like 200 trillion kg, which is 17 orders of magnitude less than the minimum mass required to support nuclear fusion.

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>>51811992
Why would the lions and the sun fight? Why wouldn't they combine?

Not if we go by long scale.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trillion

Also, we can reasonably assume we are given the strongest and largest lions, not the average ones.

>>51812355
You should phrase things more carefully. You've just implied nuclear fusion missiles have the same reaction mass as the sun.

>>51812373

They'd combine into: the Sun. Or if you let it combine somewhere else you'd get a large planet made out of bubbling oil(gotta exchange the heat of decomposition and the residual body temeprature of a trillion lions somehow) surrounded by an atmosphere of methane. Maybe it would have some sort of calcified core made out of bones and teeth, fuck knows how they would decompose.

>>51811992
To start, read the players handbook, cover to cover.

Also, what time are the lions attacking? If it was night the sun would have lost the passive burny aura, leading to a quick victory on the part of the lions.

>>51811992
What city/country you in mate? I would play with you if you're close.

How many earths it would require to raise up an army of a trillion lions? Whats is the natural lion capacity of earth?

>>51812509

Please don't derail the thread m8, we are trying to have a discussion here.

buy the rulebook
buy dice
buy miniatures and a mat
hire prostitutes to play dnd with

>>51811992
how would you sustain enough oxygen for 1 trillion lions? How would you get them to attack the sun? It's not a matter of will, but feasibility. It never matters how strong your fists are, you can never hit a bird if doesn't land.

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>>51811992

>>51812974
Dinosaurs, duh.

Barney would eat them alive.

>>51813045
Not only do the teletubbies out number Barney and friends but just look at their faces.

They have seen death before.

>>51812238
Or the sun automatically wins you know... the lions dead and all.

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>>51813045
>>51813141
Did teletubbies have lasers or was that just the care bears?

>>51813338
cool bike

>>51812275
>Flaming Lions =/= nuclear reaction.

Says you maybe, how many balls of a trillion flaming lions have you seen?

>>51813338
they had television sets in their stomachs if i understand correctly.

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>>51811992

>>51813762
this this this

>>51811992
the sun

>>51811992

>OP enters the board. He looks around nonchalantly. Unsure whether to commit to outright trolling or beg for companionship, OP asks for someone to teach him DnD.

Roll initiative.

>>51812373
Is pokemon ripping off Zoids now?

They are one step away from fusions and we can safely call it digimon.

>>51812143
Pfft, a lion is not even a grain of sand compared to our vast sun. They would all be burned to ash upon its surface, and create the Lionash beach.

Then again, maybe victory was not the point for lionhood. Perhaps to stand and fight is itself proof of their nobility.

The mass of one lion is *very* optimistically 200kg. 1 trillion gives 2E14 kg, which is 15 orders of magnitude less massive than the earth. Consider the size of the earth compared to that of the sun. The lions lose

QED

Rolled 13 + 8 (1d20 + 8)

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>>51813956
Sorry, correction, it's only 10 order of magnitude less massive than the Earth.

Point still stands.

>not using the european definition of "trillion" that is 10^18 instead of 10^12.

A trillion europeans lions would win easy.

>>51814018

A European lion maybe, but not an African lion, that's my point.

>>51813956

>The mass of one lion is *very* optimistically 200kg.

Holy shit, factcheck before you QED you baptist fuck.

>Nowak indicates the typical weight range of lions as 150 to 250 kg (331 to 551 lb) for males and 120 to 185 kg (265 to 408 lb) for females.[4] The size of adult lions varies across their range with those from the southern African populations in Zimbabwe, the Kalahari and Kruger Park averaging around 189.6 kg (418 lb) and 126.9 kg (280 lb) in males and females respectively compared to 174.9 kg (386 lb) and 119.5 kg (263 lb) of male and female lions from East Africa.[56]

Also, you could very reasonably assume we are given large and powerful lions to fight, not weak or even average ones.

>>51814031

Is it a racial thing again?

>>51811992
Is it still a pride of lions if it's enough of a pile of cute, strong kitties to blot out and eventually enshroud the sun in a manner that each and everyone can get a perfect sunning position? Does it hunt as a group, chasing down comets and meteorites like giant red dots in the sky? Or has it achieved such a critical mass of cat-dom that ti is instead a massive hyper-predator, a trillion purring hyper-violent hunters turning their very sights to the stars above?

>>51814031
>A European lion
I've never seen such a beast.
What is the exchange rate for a Euro lion to African lion?

>>51814047
I don't think you need to account for the weight difference between sexes, as female lions are generally referred to as lioness', so we can assume all trillion lions are male.

>>51811992
the lions would win if they attacked at night

>>51814320

It's a male lion on OP's image.

>>51812399
You seem to confuse fission and fusion.

This discussion is dumb. Where did the lions come from? Way down the line, the motherfucking Sun. The Sun has made itself an adversary, it can remove it again. PRAISE THE FUCKING SUN

How powerful would a trillion trillions of lions be?

guys, guys what if the lions just have to blot out the sun to win?

can 1 trillion lions can cover the sun so the earth is permamently dark? whats thei surface area of a trillon lions?

>>51814416
I'm not sure there would be enough Lion even if the lions were stretched out into a single atom's thickness across the surface. I might be wrong, but the sun is a big boy.

>>51812143
>If you kill your enemies, they win
thus, the lions win

>>51811992
Don't play D&D. It will permanently damage your brain in a way that makes real roleplaying near impossible. Play something, hell - anything - else.

I will gladly teach a newfag a game online, hmu and I'll Discord you.

Lions would win. Have you ever seen a burning lion? I certainly haven't, so I doubt they exist. As such, lions can easily close distance with the sun and maim it!

>>51815014
They don't have to cover the sun, just cover the part of it that would shine on the earth, kind of like Mr Burns sun blocker for Springfield.

Perhaps if we attached the trillion lions to a giant arm like that, and put it on top of a hill.

>>51814291
More importantly, what is their average velocity when unladen?

>>51815463
Would mundane steel be enough to hold so many lions?

>>51815482
You're right, make the arm out of lions too.

>>51811992
Please play something other than deendee, I sincerely want you to broaden your understanding of gaming so that you'll be a better, more interesting person.

>>51812345
>using imperial and short scale
>calling other idiots
Why are burgers so comically rude?

>>51812490
Lion are pretty clever, I could see them attacking at night.

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>>51815463
>>51815482
>>51815617
Pic related.
>>51816051
No, you couldn't see them, because it's night.

>>51815047
I thought if you killed your enemy, you are just like him. So the Sun becomes a lion?

>>51816145
Better a day as a lion than a hundred as a... sun?

>>51816236
Better a day as a sun than a trillion as a lion.
Doesn't a day for a sun last for its entire life?

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>>51812143
>implying they wouldn't attack at night

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Right, so I dreww up an extremely rushed and inaccurate diagram to show the size comparison.

Lions win hands down if and only if they attack at night, otherwise the decision is unclear.

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>>51811992

Here is a link to the OGL http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/systems-reference-document-srd

It's all the rules in the Fifth edition (5e) Player's Handbook, Dungeon Master's Guide, and Monster Manual. Unfortunately, there's no art or lore in it, which is personally my favorite part.

You can also get the D&D starter set for pretty cheap, comes with a fun adventure.

>>51811992
>forgot to say pic unrelated
You poor fool.
Definitely the lions. What's the sun going to do, give them a tan?

>>51812391
It's still much less massive than the sun.

>>51814018
That's still a hell of a lot smaller than the sun.

>>51818013
Even if the Lions attacked at night, the radiant heat of the Sun would prevent the Lions from approaching. Even a sleeping Sun is really, really hot.

>>51811992
in a war of attrition there is a chance that lions would evolve to the point to leave the solar system and to be sustainable without the sun.

that is their only winning move.
having a trillion of them though, thats more like a recipe for extinction.
tough to say.

>>51812974
the person who played babybop actually went to jail for murder
so im going to go with the barney CREW

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>>51813941
>Is pokemon ripping off Zoids now?

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>>51812373
GATTAI DA

>>51812247
Except it's still around 10,000,000,000,000,000,000 times bigger than the lions. And that's if they're large lions.

The sun is so fucking massive.

>>51821455
Eh, I've seen bigger.

>>51812464
It probably wouldn't decompose I think.

https://what-if.xkcd.com/4/

That link is talking about a planet of meat about 1,000,000,000 more massive than the lions would form. A trillion lions is really pretty lightweight in our solar system

>>51821455
For you

Honestly it all comes down to one thing, are they normal lions or are they variant lions?

>>51818489
>>51813942
Right math time children. Here we have 4 unknown
Which definition of "Trillion are we using?" and "How much does an average lion weigh?" and "How much does the Sun weigh?" and finaly "How do you put out a fire?"
1st: We will be giving the lions a fair chance so lets use the European definition of 10^18
2nd: As >>51814047 pointed out ~200gk would be reasonable
3rd: The mass of the sun is exactly 1 Solar Mass (yes that is an insult to all you solar exalts out there deal with it) Which is roughly 2*10^30
4th. You cut off it's fuel supply .

So in short you will have a mass of
200 000 000 000 000 000 000kg of lions against the mass of a
2 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 kg of sun
this would be enough to disrupt it's nuclear fusion core mixing the hydrogen with...Well lion so there you have it.

TL;DR: Math says lions win.

>>51822148

I suspect that, even should they manage to put the sun out, the lions are unlikely to survive the process, making it more of a draw via mutual kill.

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>>51822193

God, I missed this sort of autism

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>>51821070
really, really hot

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>>51813941

Pokemon has already done fusion.

>>51821645

It decomposes because it has organic matter, water and and oxygen(in the lions lungs and hair and dissolved in their bloodstream) It would eventually break down into simple carbohydrates.

>>51811992
just attack at night

>>51822148
That's still only just around 10 billionths worth of lion compared to the suns mass. Is that really enough to affect the fusion reaction?

>>51823549

Nah, he is just bullshitting you. You cant "cut off the fuel suppy" of a star because they are literally made out of fuel.