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Roman On Roman Edition

Previous thread: >>51711138

Get in here, post games, miniatures, questions, whatever you like.

List of mini providers:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uGaaOSvSTqpwPGAvLPY3B5M2WYppDhzXdjwMpqRxo9M/edit

List of Historical Tactical, Strategic, and Military Drill treatises:
http://pastebin.com/BfMeGd6R

ZunTsu Gameboxes:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/yaokao3h1o4og/ZunTsu_GameBoxes

/hwg/ Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/tghwg/

Games, Ospreys & References folders:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lu95l5mgg06d5/Ancient
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/81ck8x600cas4/Medieval
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/w6m41ma3co51e/Horse_and_Musket
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/vh1uqv8gipzo1/Napoleonic
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bbpscr0dam7iy/ACW
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bvdtt01gh105d/Victorian
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/b35x147vmc6sg/World_War_One
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8a13ampzzs88/World_War_Two
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8i8t83bysdwz/Vietnam_War
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7n3mcn9hlgl1t/Modern

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/6jrcg496e7vnb/Avalon%20Hill
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/pq6ckzqo3g6e6/Field_Of_Glory
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/r2mff8tnl8bjy/GDW
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/whmbo8ii2evqh//SPI
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ws6yi58d2oacc/Strategy_%26_Tactics_Magazine
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lx05hfgbic6b8/Naval_Wargaming
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/s1am77aldi1as/Wargames
https://mega.nz/#F!ZAoVjbQB!iGfDqfBDpgr0GC-NHg7KFQ
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>Advanced Squad Leader
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>Battleground WWII
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>Battlegroup
https://mega.nz/#F!SolyxarJ!GUg6zWBStfznr6BvYedghQ
>Black Powder
http://www.mediafire.com/download/o5x6blwoczojmfr/Black+Powder.pdf
>Bolt Action
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>By Fire And Sword
https://mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q
>Fleet Series
https://mega.nz/#F!i1N3xZxL!C6fQ3Z8o2U0gtk5kdXuVcQ
>Hail Caesar
https://mega.nz/#F!XsVD0KgT!twB1NWiFE3aKXK_O1EZ4pA
>Impetus
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518/Impetus
>Modelling & painting guides
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_%26_Painting_Guides
>Next War (GMT)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/eupungrg93xgb/Next_War
>Phoenix Command RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
>Saga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Wargaming Compendium
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming+Compendium.pdf
>Warhammer Ancient battles 2.0
http://www.mediafire.com/download/uttov32riixm9b0/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+2E.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ta7aj1erh7sap1t/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+-+Armies+of+Antiquity+v2.pdf
>Warhammer Historical
https://mega.nz/#F!LxkElYYY!FJB5miNmlWZKMj2VfSYdxg
>Warmaster Ancients
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cifld8bl3uy2i5g/Warmaster+Ancients.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3emyvka11bnna1b/Warmaster+Ancient+Armies.pdf

Desired scans :
Rank and File supplements
Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements
Force on Force supplements
Hind Commander
At Close Quarters
War and Conquest
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19th February in military history:

197 – Emperor Septimius Severus defeats usurper Clodius Albinus in the Battle of Lugdunum, the bloodiest battle between Roman armies.
1649 – The Second Battle of Guararapes takes place, effectively ending Dutch colonization efforts in Brazil.
1674 – England and the Netherlands sign the Treaty of Westminster, ending the Third Anglo-Dutch War. A provision of the agreement transfers the Dutch colony of New Amsterdam to England, and it is renamed New York.
1915 – World War I: The first naval attack on the Dardanelles begins when a strong Anglo-French task force bombards Ottoman artillery along the coast of Gallipoli.
1942 – World War II: Nearly 250 Japanese warplanes attack the northern Australian city of Darwin killing 243 people.
1943 – World War II: Battle of Kasserine Pass in Tunisia begins.
1945 – World War II: Battle of Iwo Jima: About 30,000 United States Marines land on the island of Iwo Jima.
1978 – Egyptian forces raid Larnaca International Airport in an attempt to intervene in a hijacking, without authorisation from the Republic of Cyprus authorities. The Cypriot National Guard and Police forces kill 15 Egyptian commandos and destroy the Egyptian C-130 transport plane in open combat.
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It is 1820 years since the Battle of Lugdunum, also called the Battle of Lyon, fought at Lugdunum (modern Lyon, France), between the armies of the Roman Emperor Septimius Severus and of the Roman usurper Clodius Albinus. Severus' victory finally established him as the sole emperor of the Roman Empire. This battle is said to be the largest, most hard fought and bloodiest of all clashes between Roman forces. The historian Cassius Dio places the number involved as 300,000, or 150,000 on either side of the battle. This figure has been disputed, as this is approximately three-quarters of the total number of soldiers present throughout the Roman Empire at that time. However, it is widely accepted that the total number of soldiers and support personnel involved exceeded 100,000, and could well have come close to half the 300,000 figure Dio gives.

After the murder of Emperor Pertinax (193), a struggle had begun for the succession to the throne, the so-called Year of the Five Emperors. The new self-proclaimed Emperor in Rome, Didius Julianus, had to face the commander of the Pannonian legions, Septimius Severus. Before moving on Rome, Severus made an alliance with the powerful commander of the legions in Britannia, Clodius Albinus, recognizing him as Caesar. After eliminating Didius (193) and then defeating the governor of Syria, Pescennius Niger (194), Severus launched a successful campaign in the East in 195. Severus then tried to legitimize his power, connecting himself with Marcus Aurelius, and raising his own son to the rank of Caesar. This last act broke Severus' alliance with Albinus, who was declared a public enemy by the Senate. In 196, after being hailed as emperor by his troops, Clodius Albinus took 40,000 men in three legions from Britannia to Gaul. After gathering up additional forces, he set up headquarters at Lugdunum. He was joined there by Lucius Novius Rufus, the governor of Hispania Tarraconensis, and by the Legio VII Gemina under his command.
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>>51798529
Severus, however, had the powerful Danubian and German legions on his side. To try to minimise this advantage and possibly win their support, Albinus struck first against the German forces under Virius Lupus. He defeated them, but not decisively enough to challenge their allegiance to Severus. Albinus then considered invading Italy, but Severus had prepared for this by reinforcing the garrisons of the Alpine passes. Not wishing to risk the losses or the delay that forcing the passes would cause, Albinus was deterred. In the winter of 196–197, Severus gathered his forces along the Danube and marched into Gaul, where, much to his surprise, he found that Albinus' forces were about the same strength as his own. The two armies first clashed at Tinurtium (Tournus), where Severus had the better day but was unable to obtain the decisive victory he needed.

Albinus' army fell back to Lugdunum; Severus followed, and on 19 February 197, the massive and ultimately decisive battle finally commenced. The exact details are as vague as the exact numbers involved. However, we do know both sides were roughly evenly matched and it was therefore a bloody and drawn-out affair lasting over two days (it was rare for battles of this time to last longer than a few hours). The tide shifted many times during the course of the battle, with the outcome hanging in the balance. It seems Severus had the edge in cavalry, which swung the battle in his favour for the final time. Exhausted and bloodied, Albinus' army was crushed.

The exact cause of Albinus' death is unclear. He fled into Lugdunum where he either, in the Roman tradition, "ran upon his sword" after finding all escape routes cut, or he was finished off by an assassin's blade. Severus had Albinus' body stripped and beheaded. He rode over the headless corpse with his horse in front of his victorious troops. The head he sent back to Rome as a warning along with the heads of Albinus' family.
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>>51798540
In Lugdunum itself, Septimius remodeled the Imperial cult sanctuary to celebrate his dominance and humiliate Albinus' provincial supporters. According to Duncan Fishwick, the reformed Imperial rites at Lugdunum resembled those due a master from his slaves. At some point after this battle, the unified Roman province of Britain was broken up into Upper and Lower halves (Latin: Britannia Superior & Inferior). Roman forces in Britannia were also severely weakened, which would lead to incursions, uprisings, and a withdrawal of Rome from the Antonine Wall south to Hadrian's Wall. It was while quelling one of these uprisings that Severus himself would die near present-day York on 4 February 211, only weeks short of the 14th anniversary of his victory at Lugdunum.

Even allowing for the exaggerated numbers, this is easily one of the longest, biggest and bloodiest battles in Roman history. Moreover it was a fight of legionnaire versus legionnaire, with both sides evenly matched in prowess and operating in a similar tactical fashion. The Roman-era wargamer will find a lot to enjoy here. It would make an impressive sight on the tabletop, and the commanders of both sides have every opportunity to secure victory. The relative dearth of information on the battle allows for a certain amount of historical leeway, with the details of the battlefield (for example) being vague enough to allow for more creativity than better-recorded encounters.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/itc22n7bt8rbxjt/Osprey+-+ELI+155+-+Roman+Battle+Tactics+109+BC-AD+313.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/z7i79pmud326kzd/Osprey+-+MAA+374+-+Roman+Military+Clothing+%281%29+100+BC+-+AD+200.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/7y3pmu5hbcrm1d1/Osprey+-+WAR+072+-+Imperial+Roman+Legionary+161-284.pdf
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It is 39 years since Egyptian special forces raided Larnaca International Airport near Larnaca, Cyprus, in an attempt to intervene in a hijacking. Earlier, two assassins had killed prominent Egyptian newspaper editor Youssef Sebai and then rounded up as hostages several Arabs who were attending a convention in Nicosia. As Cypriot forces were trying to negotiate with the hostage-takers at the airport, Egyptian troops launched their own assault without authorization from the Cypriots. The unauthorized raid led to the Egyptians and the Cypriots exchanging gunfire, killing or injuring more than 20 of the Egyptian commandos. As a result, Egypt and Cyprus severed political ties for several years after the incident.

Egyptian President Sadat was aggrieved by the assassination of his personal friend Sebai and begged the Cypriot President Kyprianou to rescue the hostages and extradite the terrorists to Cairo. Kyprianou responded by promising to oversee the rescue operation and any negotiations personally, and travelled to the airport himself. According to the same report however, Sadat dispatched an elite antiterrorism unit (Task Force 777) to Cyprus aboard a C-130 Hercules transport aircraft. Cairo merely informed Kyprianou that "people are on the way to help rescue the hostages" and did not reveal who was on board nor what their intentions were. Upon landing in Cyprus, the Egyptian force immediately launched an all out assault, dispatching a single Jeep all-terrain vehicle with three men to race ahead of an estimated 58 troops (another report has this figure at 74) moving towards the hijacked aircraft on foot.

As the Egyptian troops advanced quickly towards the hijacked DC-8 aircraft and the Cypriot National Guard forces who surrounded it, the Cypriot forces reportedly issued a single verbal warning to halt and submit, though in other reports, the Cypriots issued two verbal warnings, the second a demand for the Egyptians to return to their aircraft.
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>>51798560
As this occurred, the occupants of the Jeep and the Cypriot National Guardsmen exchanged gunfire, and the Egyptian Jeep was struck by a rocket propelled grenade, as well as gunfire, killing all three occupants. As the vehicle came to a halt, the Cypriots and the main Egyptian force confronted each other at a range of less than 300 metres (330 yd), and it is variously reported that the Egyptians, who lacked any form of cover, dropped down onto the tarmac in prone firing positions. At this moment, the two forces engaged each other with heavy gunfire, and the Cypriots opened fire on the Egyptian C-130H aircraft with a 106 mm anti-tank missile, striking it in the nose and killing all three crew on board.

With their aircraft destroyed, the Egyptian force and the Cypriot National Guard exchanged heavy gunfire for nearly an hour in sporadic fighting on the open tarmac. Some of the Egyptian troops took cover in a nearby empty Air France aircraft. Kyprianou, who was watching the events unfolding from the airport control tower, was forced to withdraw from the windows and take cover as Egyptian commandos struck the tower with automatic gunfire.

Of the Egyptian commandos, 15 were killed, in addition to three crew of the C-130H Hercules transport aircraft who were killed when it was struck by a missile. An estimated 15 more Egyptian commandos were reported to have been taken injured to Larnaca General Hospital with gunshot wounds. Following the assault, it emerged that the surrender of the two hostage-takers had already been secured at the time of the failed Egyptian attack, and the two men were taken prisoner by the Cypriots and later extradited to Egypt.

Egypt and Cyprus severed political ties for several years after the incident, until President Anwar Sadat was assassinated in 1981. President Kyprianou offered reconciliation and apologies but maintained that Cyprus could not have allowed the Egyptians to act.
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Any thoughts on the next community project? Please post any nice minis you've produced from the last one!
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Played a few games of Wings of Glory / Wings of War at the club today, was pretty fun, S.E.5a vs Aviatik. 1 Kill each which was nice considering it was my first time.

Pretty much finished Lacquered Coffins - PDF related, just have the Japanese and Italian stats to enter in, and playtest the missions a bit. Should have the Japanese stats done by tonight.

All 53 of my Russian aircraft are painted, and 2/3rds of the Lufwaffe are done too. My US and Japanese arrived too so I can play some midway-esque games later on, or perhaps the mission to take down admiral Yamamoto's Betty transport with P-38 lightnings...
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>>51800139
Pretty impressive so far. Slightly sad that you don't have any 109s that aren't Emils, though.
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>>51800269
Yeah I'm still up in the air about variants, it would be nice to keep things simple and just have 1 type, but there was a lot of improvement during the war, especially the 109.

The main improvements I found for the 109 was the high altitude performance (which doesn't really have an effect in-game) speed and power increases, which also wouldn't have any effect - the next speed "Very Fast" being reserved for jets and the Dornier do 335 - aircraft faster than 700 km/h, and the aircraft are either powerful or not, for simplicity sake (although a "gutless" property for low powered aircraft would be hilarious)

What would you like to see for the later 109s? the altered weapons loadout like the 30mm cannon? It would be easy enough to add in for the mid war list, problem is I would have to do variants for other aircraft that changed significantly over the war.... and that's a lot of them! The 109 is one that people tend to notice so probably worth adding in, even if its just a minor weapons change.
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>>51800373
>Yeah I'm still up in the air
oh you
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>>51800373
Yeah, mostly the different armaments. Mm, thinking on it, it might be a good idea to release this basic set now and release a supplement with lots of variant planes later.
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>>51800400
haha oh shit I didn't even notice

good times
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Hey guys, I have a Bolt Action rules question I wanted to clear with you all before I actually emailed Warlord.

How do Heavy Weapons affect infantry, to wound wise? If I hit someone with an AT rifle, with -2 pen, does that mean that hitting a Veteran would hurt him on a 3+?

Prior to this guy joining our league, we didn't play it this way; we figured that Veteran men shouldn't be dropping like flies to artillery fire, if they've been in the field long enough they'd know when to hit the dirt. I.e, a friend of mine who fought in Iraq said that, eventually, he learnt when mortar fire was coming his way, and his squad would disperse accordingly.

What do you think? I honestly can't find a rule passage that supports the pen value affecting the damage value of infantry.

Have a pic of one of our league games, thank you for reading!
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>>51801846
>we figured that Veteran men shouldn't be dropping like flies to artillery fire, if they've been in the field long enough they'd know when to hit the dirt.
Well if you're okay with house rules then you can definitely play it this way.
>>51801846
>If I hit someone with an AT rifle, with -2 pen, does that mean that hitting a Veteran would hurt him on a 3+?
Yes.
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>>51801991
Yee with the house rules, I figured when playing outside of the league we'd do it this way.

However, do you have a citation or a page in the rulebook I can look up for why it DOES affect the wound roll? I still can't find it.
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>>51802036
In the shooting section 'Roll to damage' it says heavy weapons adds a modifier to the roll.
Heavy weapons are basically everything except rifles, SMG, assault rifles and light mortars. It's there in the weapons section.
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Would anyone know of a Space Gamer archive/trove? Specifically issue #59?

My alzheimer's is effecting my google-fu.
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>>51802301
I think it's affecting more than that anon, were you perhaps looking for the PDF thread?
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>>51802357

You're right. My apologies.

Old age is a horrible thing... :(
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>>51802573
No harm in a free bump
Sorry I couldn't help with the request
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>>51801846
>I honestly can't find a rule passage that supports the pen value affecting the damage value of infantry.
Infantry and vehicles use the same rules for armor and penetration - this is what I like the best compared to 40k where I couldn't remember the rules for vehicles' armour for the life of me.
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>>51798609
>Please post any nice minis you've produced from the last one!

Wasn't NEA the only person who got the project done?
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>>51803106
Nah, somebody had Magua from last of the Mohicans substantially done. I thought there was at least one other too.
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Ooh. One of the patron saints of this thread has some posts up about doing 3mm stuff in 1:1.

https://tinytanks3mm.blogspot.co.nz

Looking forward to seeing these in action.
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>>51804366
>tfw you will never be a patron saint of hwg
feels bad man
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I finished reading the Bolt Action rulebook, and just placed an order for a set of Blitzkrieg Germans, I hope to make an Operation Barbarossa army. What would be a historically accurate set up for my platoon in terms of LMG's and squad sizes circa 1941- 1942?
What paints would work for the M40 field grey uniform? The box art depicts them as wearing what appear to be M36's, but I think the werhmacht had phased them out for the M40 uniform completely by 1941.
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>>51804500
Maybe you could make it to some sort of lesser saint, like one of those ones people used to take a day off for before the industrial revolution hit because it amounted to having a weekend? The ones everyone forgets.

I bet if I actually got to play games again I could make that much at least.
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>>51806531
>The ones everyone forgets
How would it be change compared to my current status?
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>>51806562
Better everyone forgets than nobody knows.
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>>51806663
Fading into obscurity after five minutes of fame is a horrible thing - look what it does to aging popstars.
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>>51806562
Hey, baby steps, gotta work up to notoriety.
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>>51806693
>tfw had a blog (sporadically updated admittedly) for years
>never been referenced here
f...fame is overrated anyway!
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>>51806820
Blogging is over-rated. I've seen people posting way better feedback on this shithole than I've ever seen on a blog except for maybe Delta Vector and his game design articles which are fucking great.
If you're posting stuff on a forum as well, then a blog isn't needed because there's still a longer-term record of shit than here.
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>>51806523
>hat would be a historically accurate set up for my platoon in terms of LMG's and squad sizes circa 1941- 1942?
Ten man squads, smg on NCO, 1 lmg, 1 loader(2 really but bolt action only requires one) and the rest rifles.
This is what I remember but can be wrong. What tank are you bringing?
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I am under no illusion i will ever be able to put my collection of games back together again. There are titles that I would do alot to get back into my collect (Dont even ask what I would do for a copy of GunSlinger).

However it is nice when I manage to get my hands on a title that I did once have.

Managed to get this little gem for $6, which is what I think I paid for it originally back in the early 80s. Its not one of my favorite titles. But I did have fun playing it. Its not worth that much. But is like I managed to bring an old friend home. And that made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. And that doesnt happen to often anymore.
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Whoever is in charge of the mediafire, the file entitled "Osprey - ELI 120 - Mounted Archers of the Steppe 600 BC - 1300 AD.pdf" has been taken down.
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>>51807022
Blogs are especially shit for any kind of reference/tutorial kind of thing. Instead of a menu of different tutorials on terrain building or whatever, you get a project broken into a dozen different posts which if you're lucky the author linked to each other but more often then not didn't. Even worse is video posts where you get 10 minutes of rambling inanity to cover what could be covered in less than a paragraph of text.
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>>51808391
>What tank are you bringing
I'm looking at a Panzer IV since it isn't too expensive.
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>>51810336
>pre-dread naval combat
holy fucking shit want
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>>51810619
Bummer. It's really rare for an actual history Osprey to get taken down; usually it was flagged years ago and only gets tripped off after a periodic search. The ELI about modern tank warfare in Europe is another example. Here's a Mega link if you were looking for it:
https://mega.nz/#!rgkR3L7L!o_4eStESEdinzZ5Qn6NhwVnjGTLvHDG7r-BcWr4MVYo

>>51812487
I gave a Mega folder of all the old Microgrames, here's Fire When Ready:
https://mega.nz/#!eltAnZYR!CSdcedzi5MRP0Gnj7NTtibuXYRC53Omj2SGhzXRKUWw

And the folder:
https://mega.nz/#F!r9dxwA5S!bKjePzZxre9NNIZlFpfpRg
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>>51812745
>Here's a Mega link if you were looking for it:
Thanks for the link!
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So Warlord put Test of Honor up for pre-order. Anyone grab it? I think I may wait until it hits Warstore or something(unless my LGS is gonna stock it).

Starter box is $50, each of the expansion boxes look like they'll be around $20 and the extra dice and cards set is like $15.
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>>51811892
Didn't the Panzer IV start to reach German front lines in 1943 or am I remembering it incorrectly?
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>>51813601
Quite a way off there, a quick check on wikipedia says they were in service form 1939
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>>51813601
Fun fact, the first Pz. IV to enter production in 1936 only had 14mm of frontal armor.
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>>51804500
well, you post here so you're more a member than an outsider hovering serenely above the crowd

post good shit, you might make it all the way to hwg pope
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>>51813648
>>51813795
Ah, it was the G, H and J model that came in 1943 with the 'heavy anti-tank gun'.
If you wanna go historical then you should model it with one of the A, B, C, D, E or F variants.
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>>51813601
The Pz IV D was in Poland albeit in rather small numbers, and it was designated as an infantry suport tank with a 75mm howitzer, while the Pz III was the designated tank hunter with a 37mm gun if I recall correctly.
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>>51813601
Methinks you are thinking of the Panther - PzV!
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>was originally ASL in 3mm anon
>started ACW in 3mm
>started AWI skirmish in 28mm
>started modern iraq/syria in 3mm
>never completeled a fucking thing

im a failure and I should die
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>>51813546

It's another generic Samurai skirmish game.

Why even bother, I have three already.
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>>51813546
Nah, the wargames factory stuff looks like ass to me, still have no clue why warlord bothered to buy them up.
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>>51815703
>to me
Well yeah, exactly. Others might like it.
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>>51815703
Their Marlburian figures are quite good I think. The rest not so much.
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>>51815770
they aren't the worst, I suspect its the digital design, the minis are technically great but lacking in character.
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>>51815558
Nah you just need to finish something.
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>>51815783
>the minis are technically great but lacking in character.
Yes, it's the digital design. I haven't seen a 3d made miniature I really liked. They are all a bit sterile.
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>>51815817
I find that as well. I am turning into an old man, liking things the way they used to be.

But I am sure sculptors will get the hang of digital design eventually.
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>>51815785
cant, too retarded
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>>51815954
Try and make 1 project ''playable'' with enough stuff finished. The rest will follow in due course.

What I think demotivates too is having too much on your plate. Hide away everything you don't plan on working on.
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>>51816043
This. Pick one project, put everything else away where it can't stare you down like "Hey anon, why haven't you painted me yet? Am I not good enough for you anon? Did I not try hard enough for you? I gave you the best years of my life anon!"
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Playing games motivates me enormously.

I always wish I had that extra unit of spearmen or cavalry..
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>>51810336

What a find! We wore the "tits off the queen" playing that and a few others like Ogre, GEV, Warp War, etc. on deployment. Maps tore along the folds, counters got lost/damaged, rule books copied. I remember playing GEV once on a couple of xeroxed sheets for a map with plastic folder tabs as counters.

Perfect size for shipboard, perfect game lengths too.
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>>51804366
Tinytanks is back, and pretty busy! Yay. I like the article on 3mm-friendly games, we have a few of them in our troves.
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I saw the discussion about the Wargames Factory Germans last thread.
I couldn't post for a couple of days because 4chan blocked my IP-range for whatever reasons (again), but i did this pic to show off their true value (at least for me): As base for kitbashing with warlord plastic parts.

As was pointed out, the heads are very plain, so i rather not use them if i can avoid it. Warlords heads are not everyones cup of tea, but they are way easier to paint.

The majority of the bodies is fine. Sure, the grenades in their belts are flat, but barely visible anyway once they have arms with a rifle.
There are 2 exceptions though: One of the kneeling poses is just terrible. Simply unusable since there is no way to fit him straight onto a base. His one leg looks like its broken.
And the machine gunner with the ammo belts around his neck. Not as bad as the kneeling body but still pretty bad.

The weapons are ok, but i didn't use them because the bulk of my army is Warlord and so i wanted them to fit in. Warlords weapons are bigger and more "heroic".

Would i recommend the set? Maybe. At a price as low as $6 sure.
At regular price for someone beginning a german army? No.
At regular (15€ for a box) price for someone with already a ton of Warlord Plastics (and therefore lots of bits to convert some or all)? Sure.

Pic related. I like how they turned out.
(btw the guy with the mp-40 has an already fixed gap on his shoulder but besides that the fit was pretty good, some of the heads need a cut to make the neck joint flat, others fitted without an issue)
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I have a fondness for TW :Shogun 2 . What game should I look at if I want a game in that time frame?
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>>51818146
>Would i recommend the set?
>maybe
>no

Well then obviously you're just a bad modeler.
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>>51818174
Perhaps Impetus or even DBM for large battles, Ronin for skirmish stuff.
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>>51818299
Thanks, what is ronin? I googled it and nothing. A&E up, well, nothing tg.
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>>51818174
I'll second Impetus, that's pretty decent.

Also maybe Banzai Age of the Country at War for a more specific system. It's not a very typical wargame, does some interesting things with how army building and commands work. Lots of randomisation if you want to use it.

And Samurai Battles (command & colors) is also a good go-to for an easy to get into (if less easy to get hold of) but still pretty solid wargame in a box.
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>>51818396
Try googling "Osprey Ronin wargame". You should be able to find a copy of the rules in our Medieval/Games folder.
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>>51815558
Mate, you stuck to two scales. Do you have any idea how much of an achievement that is? Hell, that's only really two broad periods.
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>>51816891
funny you should mention shipboard gaming. We had a few AH titles-could fit those on occasion(diplomacy was a popular one) but the most popular games we had onboard (late 80s early 90s) was micro armor. We could keep our entire force in a cigar box and we used colored cut felt as terrain. It was ghetto but it worked real well.
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>>51818915
man, I know it's skiffy, but ogre/gev is basically a damn near perfect wargame.
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>>51819370
its a classic. I have the new deluxe edition. Its impressive. The funny thing is its based on some of Jim Dunnigans works and uses the same CRT that PB/PL/AIW uses.
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>>51820063
What's that maze-looking thingy to the left of the blueprint?
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>>51818915

We played Diplomacy too. Damn near perfect for shipboard because you didn't need to leave it setup somewhere. We'd haggle and lie with each other for a couple days, submit our orders to the "ref", read the results, then wash, rinse, repeat. Strat-O-Matic baseball got a lot of play for the same reason(s).

The original Axis&Allies got a lot of play too and was quickly modified in various ways. AH's Jutland "chits as minis" was played often too.

Small games and short play times ruled though. Stuff like Microgames, SPI's zips & folios, GDW's 120 Series, and the like. GDW had a Poltava game I must have played 50 times.
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>>51820115
plastic trays to hold the models once they are put together.
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>>51820063
That's a hefty damn box there. All them sexy hex mapsheets that could double for Battletech too. I'm afraid to ask how much it retails for.
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>>51820115
>What's that maze-looking thingy to the left of the blueprint?

Unit trays.

I used Ogre/GEV to teach my 6yo nephew addition, ratios, etc. He loved it and I loved the phrase he came up with for the "Defender automatically eliminated" 5:1 attacks:

Automatic Toast.
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>>51820168
IF you can find it in retail anywhere your looking at $100+. Think I paid $130 for mine. and yeah..could EASILY double as Battle Tech boards.

>>51820161
Diplomacy. making people lose friends since 1957! We didnt do much hex and chit in my time im afraid. The Fleet series from VG series got a lot of play though, most everyone wanted to do D&D and minis games. MBT was big with the marine detachment on board. The original Adeptus Titanicus/Space Marine/Epic was big as well with it being 6mm.

There were a couple officers on my first boat that I played ASL with. we played a few times in the ships library (I was on a troop transport-big ship) until the XO put the kibosh on it. the whole no fraternization between enlisted and officer.
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>>51820168
>I'm afraid to ask how much it retails for.

They had a KS for it. I think retail was well over $100.

They recently started a KS for a less insane, "map & chit", version.
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>>51820289
Also there's Pocket OGRE which is like $5.
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>>51820265

CGN for me. We were lucky, our division office was one deck below our berthing so it basically became a lounge after work hours. Of course, six and six watch rotation in engineering didn't leave a lot of time for gaming.

VG's Fleet series saw some play aboard, too time intensive though. I played Harpoon several times. The XO, WEPO, etc. supposedly played it routinely but there was that whole ossifer vs blueshirt scum thing going on.

Much later in my NG battery, we played the shit out of ASL from the Major on down to the lowliest shell jerker. Socially, the Navy is fucking retarded.
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>want to get into Bolt Action
>Romanians look cool, I'd like to play those guys
>Warlord doesn't even produce a single Romanian model
>can only find two places to get them, and the models on offer don't look all that great

Is it worth the heartache or should I just get Germans or Murricans?
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>>51820427
Do you like playing with backstabbers? Because you'd do well with Romanians.
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>>51820403
Austin class troop transport then went on to 2 different FFGs.

yeah the Navy is kinda fucked in that regard. Had a buddy that was an E-6. Even crashed out at his place quite often. He made E-7 and put the chief khakis on and all of a sudden were not supposed to be friends anymore. yeah screw that.
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Hey, how can I submit edits for the miniatures list? You're missing loads of manufacturers
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>>51820607
That list is literally five years out of date anon, so go ahead and write up whatever edits you can
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>>51820427
I know they aren't Romanians, but I know a guy who makes miniatures of the Dutch army, which could (maybe?) serve as Romanians if painted brown
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>>51821168
Should work well enough.
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>>51821168
And I totally forgot to mention it, the company is called May 40 Miniatures,
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>>51821168
They look about right, yeah. Cool.
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Anyone got experience with 3mm Napoleonics?

I got a couple of packs to test the waters, and having painted a strip of Bavarians and 1 whole 3mm Brit im now feeling conflicted.

I tried testing blackpowder with card chits and put some old relive waterloo pre-painted 25mm-ish on the chits to brighten things up … but that actually looked pretty neat toy soldier style.

So now im stuck between 3mm low-ratio or maybe trying 28mm high-ratio

6, 10, 15mm don't really appeal. At that level i'd want to paint all the details properly (i paint a lot of 6mm scifi). 3mm means i can't do that, saves me from myself, and at 28mm it's normal/easy to do full detail.
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>>51798609
Got my (late) submissions.
USS Walker, USS Mahan, and IJN Amagi from the Destroyermen series (pre-shenanigans and battle damage). Admittedly straddles the line between historical and /awg/ territory, but it's something I had wanted to do at some point anyway, and I figured it'd be close enough. If community project archive anon doesn't think it's quite historical enough to add, that's understandable. No biggie.

Amagi had a bit more line-ness to her, and it's evident close up (and in the pictures some) but at arms length it isn't. Still gonna bother me though. This was my first battlewagon sized WSF piece, and I've learned that I'm gonna have to go after those flat decks harder when I do my Dunkerque.
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>>51822393
I have done some..

Quite liked them all based up but it was still quite a lot of work. I think I am leaning more towards 10mm.
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>>51823181
Where'd you get the minis?
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>>51824756
Shapeways. Both sculpts came from this particular designer.

https://www.shapeways.com/shops/tinythingamajigs
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>>51823181
Looks a little better in regular lighting, I think the light I was using exaggerated the graininess a bit.
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LAV-75
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>>51824690
>>51822393
Not entirely related to the topic at hand here, but how do you guys attach your miniatures to the things you hold when painting them?

Some of the painting guides I've read have said to attach miniatures I'm painting to something like a cork or stick in order to not have to hold the miniature you're painting directly and smudge the paint, but they never go into detail about how you're supposed to do this.
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Five men in normandy vs five men in kursk. Which is better and why
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>>51832782
That depends entirely on which particular 5 men you pick.
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>>51832795
I cant afford both
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>>51830913
Depends on the mini. Most infantry models 20mm and higher just paint them holding onto their bases.

For 15mm I put them on a long bit of scrap wood with blue tack.
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>>51832822
Five Men in Normandy is in the folders, so Kursk, then.
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I think I'm done. Any suggestions what to improve?

Markings were left off deliberately so I can use it in Europe as well as in the Pacific.
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>>51833037
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>>51833057
last one.

I'm pondering, if I should add any stowage or just leave it plain and simple.
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>>51833037
>>51833057
>>51833065
Looks ok, but imo a bit too dirty on the tracks. maybe add some lighter tone pigment here and there too look more like dust instead of rust like now.
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Well after some playtesting over the last few weeks, finally finished this WW2 air combat game, Lacquered Coffins:

http://www.wargamevault.com/product/205740/Lacquered-Coffins-WW2-Air-Combat

Stats for over 200 aircraft! (201 to be exact...)

Turns out tumbling dice do a fw 189, so ordered a bunch of those because they're cool, as well as some me 262s, he 162's, and a bunch of fairey swordfishes, so I can play some Bismark sinking missions.
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>>51833037
Looks fucking great
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>>51833212
yeah you're right it looks really dark in the pics.

Added some lighter pigments. Waiting for the fixer to dry.
Thx.
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>>51830913
Sometimes I stick my smaller ships to a strip of cardboard with double sided tape to prime them and to do most of the painting because they're too small to safely handle otherwise. When I was doing plastic plane models I used to clean and prime the entire sprue with my basecoat and paint as much as I could on sprue before removing and assembling, then touch up as needed. It worked okay.
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>>51820607
Open it up, copy and paste it all into a new document, add your edits, upload as a google doc and then post it in the thread. OP will probably find it and make sure to include it in the next one.
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>>51798479
Alright fa/tg/uys I'm almost there.

Just got my order of DAK for my North Africa themed army. Pretty neat miniatures from Perry. Although the faces are a bit dull.

Ordered a stug III and hanomag as well.
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Who's ready for a poorly built blockhouse built in lickity split time?

I sure am.
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>>51834673
Good man. Look into an artillery piece too, be it an anti-tank gun or howitzer. Best bets are warlord's Pak 38, or the Blitzkrieg Minis Flak 36 with Perry crew.
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>>51834757
Looks pretty good
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>>51834892
I was going for 'acceptable', pretty good is alright.
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>>51834757
Looks pretty nice anon.
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>>51834757

Poorly built? Please. You painters and modellers are always so hard on yourselves. When I paint something it always ends up looking like it's been ate by a coyote and shit off a cliff.

It looks great and should really make your table "pop". What rules set will you be using?
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>>51834934
Have you seen the roof? I need to tidy up the tiles a bit but thank you chaps for the kind words.

It's meant to be for the French and Indian Wars but anything in 17th/18th even early 19th America.

Rules used will probably be Muskets and Tomahawks, Song of Drums and Tomahawks or Sharp Practice.
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>>51834757
Cool. The house is a bit large but other than that it is nice.
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>>51835102
It's moslty so that you can fit figures in without it being too cramped or them touching.
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>>51835046
>Have you seen the roof?

So? If you don't like it, give it to me.

My group will use it so often the roof you're worried about will cave in!

Seriously though, cut yourself some slack. That blockhouse will look great on our table.

BTW, that's three interesting rules sets you listed. I'd be hard pressed to choose between them.
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>>51835421
well they fit different sized games. There is some overlap between M&T and Sharp Practice but one represesnt a more skirmish action and one more European or linear. They can be both be used for the other type though, it's mostly preference.
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>>51821443
I've looked further into this and that's awesome, thanks a lot dude. It's going to cost me an arm and a leg but the things we do for love right.
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>>51835421
>That blockhouse will look great on our table.

Sorry. That was supposed to read: "That blockhouse will look good on YOUR table."
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>>51835758
>Not owning that typo
It's like you don't even Colonialism anon.


>>51798609
Trying to think of themes that were runners up. I think I remember animals was a popular second place. Prototypes/Wildly impractical could be another fun one. Similar would be obsolescent/too old for this shit.

Thoughts?
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>>51832822
Normandy's first edition is free in the Retro FiveCore pack, so grab that.
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>>51833278
So both semi-regular developers in /HWG/ are called Tom...

Weirdly coincidental.
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>I found M. the Marshal who, after having listened to me, told me, "Monsieur, I do not want a battle; pray M. de Chevert to withdraw his corps by the left beneath one that M. d'Armantieres command and for both to rejoin the army.

>I insisted on the advantage to be lost in abandoning ground which the enemy would certainly take hold of during the night, all was of no use, his response was always "Leave!" Finally, counting on his goodness and the friendship which he had for me, I took him aside and said to him:

>"Monsieur la Marechal, my attachment and appreciation embolden me to represent to you that you will be doing a great harm with respect to your army if you defer an operation which appears certain. Audacity, as you know, is the appendage of the Frenchman, and we should not allow his courage to cool."

>He gently listened to me.

>" Oh well! You are going to extract from me my secret; my convoy of bread is another 4 leagues from here and we don't have any other.

https://altefritz.blogspot.co.nz/2017/02/french-field-bakeries-and-logistics.html
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>>51836456
Nice. Yours or from somewhere out there on a blog?
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>>51836521
From the blog linked at the bottom of the post. None of it's mine, I just think bakeries and bread and logistics are good for wargaming.
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>>51836521
>>51836611
Replied like a dumbass before I looked. Was just curious, it would have made an awesome piece for the food-based community project over the holidays this past year.
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>>51834881
Thanks for the tip. That sounds like a perfect add-on, especially considering how much the DAK relied on these types of guns during the African campaign.

This is my first starter army for hwg, wish I had started sooner.
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Apparently FogR is now a dead game? If I base my units for it anyway will I be fine? As I understand it, 40x20 isn't usual?
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>>51839991
40mm x 20mm is very common as are multiples of it, if there's anything like a standard base size for historicals, that's it right there.
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>>51830913
Superglue.
It becomes brittle so you can pop the figures off quite easily.
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Anyone here play much naval wargaming? I've been looking into it recently and considering getting a fleet built, maybe Imperial Japanese Navy, but I've been wondering how it plays. Also having a bit of trouble finding models I like, probably going to be playing with 1:2400 scale models for sake of space and price.
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>>51830913
I blue tack them onto old citadel paint pots.

(Yes, dirty nails. Too much climbing...)
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>>51842025
Lots of good systems available. What scale of complexity are you after?

1/2400 will let you pick up GHQ models, which are really nice. Panzerschiffe is available too at a lower price, but quality is less. There's also 1/2400 scale stuff available on Shapeways, but I can't speak as to quality at that particular scale, just 1/1800.
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BRDM
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Tell me about your imagi-nations, /hwg/!
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>>51845748
Sometimes I wonder how many people I'd piss off if I wrote up an AAR of some of my AK-47 Republic games and included the fact that we referred to the sides as The People's Democratic Republic of Bongobongoland and The Islamic Alliance of Durqadurqastan.
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>>51846329

Seeing as how much we love AARs here, I don't think there would be any trouble at all.
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>>51845748
As it stands the only /hwg/ relevant imagi-nations I have are the african nation of Rhodesland and its ZITA rebels. The conflict is set to rage throughout the 50s and into the early 70s. This means that everyone is using WW2 vintage kit with some later equipment like the t55 and Panhard AML. I also made sure that all my elite units wear berets because looking cool is important for morale.

No prizes for guessing which nation I'm ripping off
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>>51846329
I think the majority of /hwg/ appreciates the sense of humour/satire that AK-47 is based upon. There's always that guy who considers all forms of post-1945 wargaming unacceptable, either because they seem to think it's all about beheading aid workers or killing children; or because they just want to start up with one of the oldest trolls in wargaming. On the other hand there's the occasional fantasist who has read too much Soldier of Fortune and takes things far too seriously. But I'd hope they'd just be ignored. Chris Peers himself always explained how this is playing with toy soldiers for fun, not jerking off to an atrocity simulation.

Personally I've always used the various not-nations included in Palladium's Recon, like Boorsland (SA/Rhodesia), Dakali (Senegal/Cameroon), Chandracia (Arab Africa) and so on. Mainly because they had already been nicely fluffed.

Also I haven't been able to upload pictures all afternoon, anyone else having this problem?
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>>51846730
>Rhodesland and its ZITA rebels

I read that first as the ZITI rebels. ;)
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>>51798479

I asked this a while ago but, are there any good Ancient era skirmish games like Lion Rampant out?
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>>51846905
Who wouldn't go to war over a nice bowl of ziti?
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>>51846920

Not for nothing, but I would.
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>>51839991
>>51840933
yeah, that's your absolute bog-standard dbx/wrg generic infantry basing.
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>>51845748
generic basically france and generic basically germany. they're not very developed.
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>>51846842
I'll admit it was mostly born out of a desire to see two fanatical nigh-irregular forces with chronically terrible soldiering skills made up for with extreme (and probably khat-enhanced) levels of morale tearing into each other in open combat.
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Yay, images are back

>>51847291
Well now you're obligated to share tales of their bloodletting, anon.
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>>51847929
>Yay, images are back
Turns out I was wrong
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>>51842025
Be a man.

Play in 1:300.
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>While recovering from a site issue, we lost some older images. Please post some new ones to make up for it!
RIP the kittens in the /tg/ sticky
06/27/11 - 22/22/17
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>>51842025
>Anyone here play much naval wargaming?
I've been playing a lot of Naval War recently, both in 1/1800 and 1/3000 scale.

That's a rather nice free ruleset with community-driven updates.
Finds a nice balance between detail and playability.
Ya can find it at naval-war.com

In fact, I might be posting some WIP pics of some Americans I've been working on later today.
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Help me out here lads, if I want to make my own list for sharp practice, how does level three leaders work? their is no option for them in the generic support list.

Do I go without them?
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If I want to pull off the Vlasov Army in Bolt Action, how do I make them distinct from regular old Germans? Other than giving them the swanky Free Russia patch obviously.
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>>51849200
Did they have any special hats?
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>>51849200
Include Cossacks, I suppose? And captured Russian tanks, maybe. They had funny-looking lapels too. There's a good Osprey MAA on them in the folders.
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>>51847929

Very nice! Thanks for sharing.

In return I'm posting a pic which should be inspiration for the ULTIMATE two AK-47 Republic figs.
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>>51849421
>In return I'm posting a pic which should be inspiration for the ULTIMATE two AK-47 Republic figs.
Johnny Mad Dog (from whence that picture comes from) should definitely be required viewing for AK-47 Republic players, or at least the ones interested in the West African militias.
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>>51849446
For some reason I couldn't watch it beyond the first 15 minutes.

I'll try it again, but shit...
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>>51849446
>Johnny Mad Dog (from whence that picture comes from) should definitely be required viewing for AK-47 Republic players, or at least the ones interested in the West African militias.
It's a great movie. One good movie about Africa is also the the way more serious (even if Johnny Mad Dog deals with heavy subjects too) Beasts of No Nation.
Also to add to the discussion about imaginations, I made one like a year ago but never fleshed it out properly. I should find the notes and post them here. It was supposed to be for a campaign set in that nation with the premise being that rebels backed by a nearby nation are trying to cause havoc and overthrow the king and his government with the government forces having foreign "private military advisors" as backup for their forces.
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>>51849446
>Johnny Mad Dog (from whence that picture comes from) should definitely be required viewing for AK-47 Republic players, or at least the ones interested in the West African militias.

While the 1e of the game predates the movie by nearly a decade, I wonder if Peter Pig released the 2e because of renewed interest in the genre sparked by the movie

>>51849465
>For some reason I couldn't watch it beyond the first 15 minutes.

Some reason? Being an empathetic human being is more than reason enough, IMHO.

>I'll try it again, but shit...

Indeed. It took me a couple of tries to get through it despite having read the book and serving in Operation Enduring Freedom.
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>>51848722
Look forward to seeing them!
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ok. which one of you fuckers suggested this one? if I still had my painting supplies I would be tempted to buy this kit

http://www.themodellingnews.com/2017/02/masterboxs-new-kits-of-marchapril-2017.html
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>>51849781
Here we go.
Some stuff I've been painting recently.
Mostly US, but with a German and two Japanese reps in there.

Should be getting varnish in a bit, to be followed by the application of some water effects.

The pair of Clevelands at the bottom that already have water effects applied just got some touch-ups, especially around the turrets.
Their original paintjob was kinda rushed.
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>>51850488
what are you using for the bases...looks kinda thin and...warped a touch in places. I always used plasticard when I was basing ships. Sturdy and resolute
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>>51850537
Card, specifically cut-up Magic: the Gathering cards.

They keep their form nicely and are nice and thin, which I want so my models aren't half a cm above the playing surface.
If they do bend a bit (typically from paint application) you can just bend em in the other direction a bit and they'll keep the shape they're bent into.
The layer of water effects like on the two ships in the bottom also helps with maintaining that shape.

Also note that my cutting board is a bit uneven, which can also make things look a bit warped.
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>>51847929
15 or 20 mm? Who makes this beauty??
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>>51850488
Nice. I'm currently doing USN as well. I've got four more Clemson/Wickes class DDs and three auxiliary conversions of same currently being prepped to paint.

If you don't mine me asking, why MTG cards in particular?
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>>51851566
>If you don't mine me asking, why MTG cards in particular?
I had piles of em to spare and they fit the requirements I had for basing materials.
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>>51850488

Great stuff. Thanks for sharing.

My eyes are old. Which IJN BC/BB is that? Hiei?
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>>51851971
Yup, Hiei.

I have Nagato, Mutsu and Kirishima painted already and a second Hiei that'll get to be Kongou still in the to-paint pile.
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>>51851971
>Which IJN BC/BB is that? Hiei?

It's gotta be Hiei. An IJN BC with four double-gun turrets means a Kongo class, and whatever the word back there is, it doesn't end in "o" (Kongo) and it's too short to be Kirishima or Haruna.
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>>51852134
>>51852128

Thanks, younger anons. I figured Hiei because of the turrets, word length, etc. but I wanted to make sure.

That's one sweet looking ship.
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>>51849185
Leaders are just 3 points per level, so they'd be on list nine if it existed.
If you need convincing, work out the points for the sample forces in the army lists.
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Sup guys, of course I'm here to ask for another recommendation.

What's the simplest generic ruleset for (modern) operational-level hex combat floating around? With factors like logistics and possibly even morale included. I guess adapting SSI early wargaming mechanics would be a start in the right direction, but I feel like they often lack the nuance of "realistic" campaigning
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>>51853332
I think it even says much the same just near the support lists. iirc on the page opposite.
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>>51851399
He's 32mm (meant for 28mm scale, he's a big lad); that's Matakishi Tea Houses' President-for-Life Hasira Kiboko, from their Babatunde range. Here's his wife and son. Not my minis btw!
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>>51849200
The ROA used some T-34s. Germans with T-34s and a Hetzer would be distinctive.
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>>51835816
>Prototypes

I have a Sturer Emil that's been sitting around half finished for years which this would be a good excuse to finish building/painting it.
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>>51850444
Could you get a starter set of artist's oils and mix the colors you need?
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>>51859235
Oh i could but to be honest I have no interest getting back into minis painting at this point in my life. Maybe in the future. but not right now.

Im content with my hex and counter board gaming
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>>51834757
I've been meaning to make a blockhouse for so long but I'm just shit at terrain and have nowhere to store it.
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a couple of RAF aircraft mostly finished - still have the majority to do the transfers on, just testing out this method of attaching them on a single Lancaster before I commit to the rest

1/600 scale, from tumbling dice.

The brown / green fighters are hurricanes, the grey / green are spitfires.
Also pictured are some Vickers Wellingtons and a B-17 (in RAF colors)
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>>51849498
I watched them both, recommend Beasts of No Nation much more than Mad Dog. It really covered more of how the whole situation works, from the top to the bottom.
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>>51851818
I hope you used islands.
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>>51862887
Mostly trash commons, since Islands are some of the best cards in MtG.
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I'm playing Bolt Action and my shitty japanese opponent is playing a cheesy mortar list. He claims that his unit which includes three mortars all do separate pins. So If he hits with two mortars he gets to roll 2 D2 pins on me. Is this correct?

The bastard also has the gall to claim that if one of his mortars in the squad hits, all the other ones hits on a 2+ in subsequent shooting rounds. This sounds like complete bollocks. Is the japs that OP?
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>>51865426
>that pic
Lannes and Davout are totally understandable, and I suppose Murat is a fair enough inclusion; but Bernadotte? Seriously? What about Soult, or Massena? Or perhaps even Ney ((forgetting Waterloo for a moment)? What an odd inclusion.
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>>51865426
Hm, that's a good question desu. The rules for pins from HE weapons only cover single weapons, but I'd say they only give extra pins ABOVE the original one - so d2 pins, but you subtract one from it as the base pin marker from getting hit.

And since they are in the same unit, I'd say they do hit on a 2+...I'll check the rulebook's relevant sections, but I'd say he played it RAW.
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>>51865426
You take pins from the weapon that does the most pins, so D2. I couldn't find where this was in the rulebook but page 71 has a version of it.

Page 72 covers ranging in with multiple mortars in a squad. You range in separately.
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>>51865660
Thank you kindly.
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Some cool Ospreys coming up in the next few weeks. Really looking forward to that NZ Soldier vs German Motorcycle Trooper one from the Combat line; might even have to buy myself a hardcopy.
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>>51865483
>>51865426
Fuck bernadotte. Filthy traitor
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>>51866059
>The Modern Russian Army
>South African armour of the Border War 1975-89
This pleases me
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>>51866059
>Muh Olifants

Also possible Rooikats and Panhards? I'm ready.
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>>51866059
Amazon is shilling the border war book at me hard, but I will resist.

That being said I'm looking forward to Leigh Neville's Special Forces encyclopedia that's coming out later in the year.
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>>51866059
>Darwin
This one looks good too. Love me some ABDACOM shit.
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>>51866059

SADF armor and the Darwin raid? I can hardly wait!
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>>51858764
>>51849256
Thanks lads. Good stuff.

>>51849248
That was my first thought, giving them Russian uniform caps or something. Alas.
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>>51867734

Here is some nice footage of POA.
Apparently they had quite some T-34s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-t_RxO4Pg0&list=FLjHFA8De8oEApqmmJjvTPEA&index=4
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Anyone got printable version of saga battlebaords viking and anglo danes need them quick?
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Does anyone have the pdf of 'The Knight and the Blast Furnace'?
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>>51858242
Thanks. Sadly is not my scale, but beautiful minias.
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>>51866421
>he hasn't reached true enlightenment
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>>51866059
hey, that reminds me, anybody have a link to that one bro-tier anon's weapon osprey mega?
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Bump
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>>51872070
>When Ivan thins his paint too much and sprays his airbrush too close and too high psi
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>>51868586
I'll upload it when I get home.
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So what is everyone working on currently? I'm in a bit of an unproductive hole, I need a way to get out of it but I'm unsure how.
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>>51798479
the new 1812 campaign pdf for Sharp practice 2 is out, shall be getting myself a copy because Lardy Rich is a complete bro.
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>>51872496
british officers for sharp practice peninsular/war of 1812
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>>51872496
Finishing off a bunch of 1/600 aircraft - will be applying transfers to spitfires and HD mosquitos today, as well as some B-25 Mitchells.
Finished the Hurricanes yesterday (pic related) , as well as all the other RAF bombers. Still waiting on transfers to finish the Luftwaffe and Soviets though, everything looks better with tiny transfers.
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>>51868586
>>51872343
https://www.mediafire.com/?4003610b3wu1vht
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>>51873310
Those look real nice Anon.
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>>51870908
https://mega.nz/#F!e8sjzY4B!vgrkMoZgwd2cpN-aoNLT8A
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>>51873739
Thank you kindly.
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>>51873520
>>51873739

Thank you both.
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Hey, since this is kind of a question about culture, but in a way also about uniforms, I guess this is the best place to ask.

Does anybody know of any reliable sources for how picts actually looked? Tattoos, bodypaint etc?
Or is it all just conjecture?

Any input would be appreciated.

Are there any other historical tattooing traditions that are well documented? Kind of interested in that topic.
I know that Maori place a great deal of importance on it, but other than that is seems tattooing is mostly a cosmetic consideration. With the exclusion of the Yakuza I can't really think of any other examples of longstanding traditions of tattooing.
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>>51874054
It is conjecture but based off of celtic art and pictish engravings from the many stones available in scotland.

How those relate to tattoos is another matter.
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>>51874117
Yeah. It's kind of what I was wondering. I seem to remember there was a body found of someone whose skin was partially preserved in ice or somehow else mummified.
I cannot remember where it was found or figure out the appropriate search terms to find it again, however.
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>>51874201
Otzi, but he was way too early.
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>>51872825
>>51872863
related to these is there an appraisal uploaded yet of Dawn and Departures?
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oh god...what have I done! IM NOT GOD!


(Budapest '45 from Tiller Software-Seige of Budapest scenario. 100 turns. And this isnt even the big daddy of the game)
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>>51868124
Somewhere I recall reading that when the Soviets captured Vlasov they hung him on meat hooks in the Lubyanka prison. Forget where I read that, likely Solzhenitsyn's work.
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>>51874302
You are right, he was tattooed. I found the gravesite I was thinking about after a while of searching again though.

It was in Siberia, so it had nothing to do with picts.
Oh, well.

I'm still interested to hear of other records of historical tattooing, though.
It's a fascinating topic.
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>>51866059
I wonder how much the modern Russian army book is going to be about the past 10 years rather than the Chechen wars era?

Gonna be an interesting mess either way given all the failed upgrade/replacement programs.
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>>51876147
This is the list of the book's contents from the page about it on Osprey's site:

Introduction
Born in Crisis - the 1990s: creating a new army in the wreckage of the USSR - First Chechen War - peacekeeping missions - the damaging 'grandfather' culture in the ranks.
'Reform Tomorrow' - the 2000s: slow beginnings of reform under Putin - Second Chechen War - uncertainty and inertia at the top - the Cossack revival. The Georgian Turning Point - 2008: profiting from errors and lessons - Defense Minister Serdyukov and Chief of General Staff Makarov force through reforms.
The Russian Army Today: structures, organization, chain of command - major annual exercise cycles, and what they teach us.
Two Armies: the reformed one-third, and the unreformed two-thirds. The human dimension: volunteer soldiers and conscripts - Ukraine - continuing problem of crime in the military.
Intervention Forces: Air Assault and Naval troops - Spetsnaz - anti-piracy operations - Crimea - 'non-linear war' doctrine.
Tools of the Trade: weapons, vehicles, specialist AFVs - latest 'Ratnik' uniforms and equipment - drones.
Select Bibliography
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Went to the hobby store and picked up some germans and americans to play some five men in kursk with. 1:72 scale. Unfortunately they were Fallschirmjaeger/Marines respectively and Im wondering if I just paint both like normal dudes if itll be ok
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Anyone Familiar with Mighty Armies: Ancients? Is it any good?
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>>51876305
Kind of wish the book was a bit more all encompassing. The most interesting part of the modern russian armed forces is the clash of the stereotypical soviet overwhelming firepower with the development and deployment of precision munitions. Watching the russian air force drop loads of unguided bombs in Syria while also dropping LGBs has been interesting/
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>>51874532
Explain whats happening in theimage
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Right on cue! I had a suspicion the Russian lads at Mirageswar, etc would be quick with this one. Some great illustrations in this.

The Modern Russian Army 1992–2016 (Osprey Elite 217)

Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russia's army has undergone a turbulent transformation, from the scattered left-overs of the old Soviet military, through a period of shocking decay and demoralization, to the disciplined force and sophisticated 'hybrid war' doctrine that enabled Vladimir Putin to seize Crimea virtually overnight in 2014. Using rare photographs and full colour images of the army in action, profiles of army leaders and defence ministers, as well as orders of battle and details of their equipment and dress, this is a vivid account of the army's troubled history and of its current character, capabilities and status. Written by an internationally respected author with remarkable access to Russian-language sources and veterans, this study is essential reading for anyone wishing to understand the growing power of Russia's military.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/zj3to2juw138eun/Osprey+-+ELI+217+-+The+Modern+Russian+Army+1992-2016.pdf
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Honestly I gave Ivan my money so you dont have to.
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>>51880310
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>>51876800
Well the FJ would be fine, but of course the Marines never fought in Europe. But I'm sure you could get away with painting them as regular US Army.

>>51880310
A nice addition, thanks.
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>>51880481
>Well the FJ would be fine, but of course the Marines never fought in Europe. But I'm sure you could get away with painting them as regular US Army.

Cheers thats what I thought if I just paint them as intended it shouldnt be an issue especially since the figures arent overly detailed
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>>51880532
Which manufacturer's Marines? The Airfix ones are standard US infantry, Waterloo's and Revell's are more marine-like with no breeches, helmetcovers and all that.
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>>51880310
Thanks Karl
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>>51880799
ya its the crappy airfix dudes
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>>51880870
yw babe
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>>51881039
Nah, they are fine. The US figures are surprisingly nice to paint, and the poses are good - only gripe I have is that they don't have any BARs (a mistery - Matchbox didn't include any BAR gunners in their set, so I had to convert some) and too much M1 Carbines for my taste. The paras don't have any support weapons sadly - I'd recommend grabbing some from AB or SHQ, they are similar in size.

Also, some of the US figures are bigger, because they were downsized 1:32 figures, the rest are sculpted to go with them, but for some reason they didn't do a scale check...but good luck with them anon, don't forget to grab some plastidip to prevent chipping.
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>>51881068
Seeing this makes me feel a lot better thanks. That said my set came with 2 BARs so maybe theres some discrepency
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>>51881085
>That said my set came with 2 BARs
If you mean the prone figures, those are .30cals, but the detail is soft enough now to be passable as a BAR.
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>>51881095
Ahh so they are, at a glance they convinced me otherwise. now I look stupid
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>>51881126
To be fair the .30cal's bipod version with the wooden stock wasn't that widespread, and it has no loader so one might confuse it with a BAR - I did it as well. But I have the Hasegawa US infantry set that has largely the same figures, but includes a tripod and a loader for the gun, as well as a loader for the bazooka and it's all hard plastic.
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>>51881085
>>51881095
You can easily convert them, a rectangle of cut up base from the same set and a bit of wire along with some knife work to render that square gun into something more bar-esque should be easy and convincing enough. (Sorry for the huge image, don't know how to resize on the mobile)
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>>51881161
Hey, that's pretty good. Thanks for the idea anon, I had two spare separate BARs for my paras, but I have to convert some for my standard US GIs.
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>>51874532
What are those wheel like things on the map
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Dear Hampshire anon, the third try was the charm. Today your package from baccus arrived. Thank you so fucking much. You are the greatest. I will start painting them soon.

For the other anons. This is my christmas present. The first package never arrived at my home. So anon sent another package directly from baccus. This package also didn't arrive and because Peter is such a nice fellow he sent a replacement package for free after anon asked him nicely. Now the package is finally here. Christmas can finaly start.

Thank you anon, thank you Peter and merry christmass.

Praise anon and buy loads of Baccus stuff.
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>>51872496
Just got done painting up a bunch of Clemson/Wickes class destroyers for my ABDACOM fleet and a couple of auxiliaries based on same hulls for use mostly as objectives. I'll post pics when I can get some decent ones later today. Next, gonna work on getting my remaining ABDA cruisers ready to paint (USS Houston, USS Boise, HNLMS Java, HNLMS Tromp)

Biggest thing is just to pull out at most a small number of items you can batch paint, or just one or two figs, and get started. Just make sure they're naked, and just do the entire thing from the beginning. For some reason, I have a way harder time finishing stuff I paused on, rather than starting from the beginning and just doing the whole damn thing. Once you've done some, you'll feel more like doing more again.
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>>51872496
Just finished up some 15mm Cold War Soviets, posted a pic here: >>51881346
Got some more Soviet stuff (some cold war, some WW2) in the pipeline after that as well.

>>51881712
>Biggest thing is just to pull out at most a small number of items you can batch paint, or just one or two figs, and get started
Agreed.
You'll be much better motivated to paint if you have 1 or 2 (preferably playable) chunks of work in sight, which you can finish in 1 or 2 sittings.
Then, you can steadily add new chunks of work as you complete ones.

I absolutely loathe painting entire armies assembly line style.
Instead I prefer to work on small unit-sized chunks (platoons for Flames of War, 3-5 ships for naval stuff) and vary the type of chunk I work on.
That can be as simple as alternating work on vehicles and infantry or varying the nations/units you paint stuff for.
That avoids getting burnt out on repeatedly painting the same colour schemes and/or types of minis.
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>>51881712
Clemson/Wickes class DD's in Measure 21(ish).

I enjoyed painting this scheme more than I thought I would when I was staring at the primed models. The USN ship camo database doesn't have anything regarding what the particular ships I was modeling were wearing during Java Sea, so I made an educated guess. Nice little models with loads of detail.
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>>51882354
Three varieties of auxiliary based on Clemson/Wickes hulls. In the rear is a Child's class AVD in MS21(ish), a seaplane tender. Two of them were operating along with USS Langley and a converted sloop as the tenders for Patrol Wing 10, the PBY Catalina wing in the Asiatic area at the beginning of the war in the Pacific. In the middle is a minelayer conversion in MS 12 MOD (ish). All eight of the conversions that were still active were based out of Pearl Harbor, and were present during the attack.
Front is an APD, or All-Purpose Destroyer. These had their torpedoes and 4"/50s stripped and the main guns replaced with 3" DP guns and additional light AA added, and they retained their ASW capabilities. They were used to ferry supplies and troops at night in much the same was as Japan did with it's Tokyo Express during Guadalcanal. At times they were used to insert teams of marines to make raids, and it's the marine teams that gave them the nickname "Green Dragons."

Really neat little ships with interesting histories. If you want to read more, check the links below.

http://destroyerhistory.org/flushdeck/avd/
http://destroyerhistory.org/flushdeck/dm/
http://destroyerhistory.org/flushdeck/apd_operations/
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>>51880082
>>51880310

Woo-hoo! Thank you both!

>>51882354
>>51882469

Thanks for the pics and the link, Anon!
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>>51882469
>a seaplane tender

That got reminded me of the IJN tactic of dropping flares to silhouette enemy ships during night actions AND that got me thinking about night actions.

Given how many night battles occurred during the Solomons campaign, which naval rules sets do /hwg/ think handles night actions best?
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Indulge me /hwg/. Why is it that pretty much every large or well known primarily historical wargaming site is moderated/adminned by retards? TMP is the obvious example, but I've recently come across LAF and their blanket ban on anything after the year 2000 because muh ISIS makes me irrationally angry.
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>>51882969
LAF is a Germany based forum and German lawmakers are fucking wankers basically.
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>>51882969
People talk about post 2000 stuff on LAF all the time. There used to be quite a lot about Skirmish Sangin.

It's a rule to stop cunts being cunts, simple as that.
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>>51882969
>I've recently come across LAF and their blanket ban on anything after the year 2000 because muh ISIS makes me irrationally angry.
It's a drastic measure, but it kind of has to be in order to keep/pol/fags from ruining fucking everything(see /his/)
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>>51882969
>Why is it that pretty much every large or well known primarily historical wargaming site is moderated/adminned by retards?

Because only retards have enough free time to be mods and admins. Normal people have jobs and prefer to spend the free time they have painting and/or gaming.
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>>51877974
the Seige of Budapest was the 50-day-long encirclement of the Hungarian capital of Budapest by Soviet forces near the end of World War II. Part of the broader Budapest Offensive, the siege began when Budapest, defended by Hungarian and German troops, was first encircled on 26 December 1944 by the Red Army and the Romanian Army. The city unconditionally surrendered on 13 February 1945. 180,000 german and hungarian defenders against 500,000+ soviet attackers

>>51881379
if your talking about the white circles with the numbers by them-minefields with the number of circles being the strength (1-3)
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>>51882961
Depends on your definition of "best." If you're talking most accurately and with the most granularity, then GQ3 is probably gonna be the top end while still remaining playable. If you mean resolves quickly while still bearing some semblance of accuracy, Naval War and to a lesser extent Victory at Sea fit that bill.
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Does anyone have a pdf of 'This Very Ground' by Iron Ivan Games?
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>>51882985
In fact its illegal to show the IS banner in germany. Exactly like its illegal to show a swastika banner.

Both (IS and NSDAP) are considered criminal organizations, so their insignia can't be shown in or to the public if its not within special rules, like historical documentations on tv or books or something like that. Sadly even historical correct miniatures and scale models are not part of this, so it can't be shown.
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>>51883425
>can be shown on historical representation
>so you can't put them on your WW2 models

Germoney, yuo of brilliant.
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>>51883461
The acceptable version of the german battle flag bothers the hell out of me from a graphic design standpoint, because there isn't any bloody reason to repeat the iron cross. I've included the standard version on my ship bases, but since they're removable so that I can play without them as situation demands, I can appease someone who wants to be a prick about it.
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>>51883461
Except scale models are considered as toys, especially if its wargaming ones.

Of course you can do in your house whatever you want, but you can't bring them to any stores or clubs or elsewhere public where random people could see them.
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>>51883553
Or post pictures online or mention that they are like that.

Sometimes I glad I don't live in Germany, especially how I can't learn German for the life of me.
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>>51883461
>>51883521
My personal preference, partially from old vidya, is to just 1:1 exhange of swastikas for iron crosses. It even sooths the "I'll play germans, but not the evil ones" people, of whom I've encountered rsther a few
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>>51883176

Thanks for the reply. I've seen Naval War and will check out the other two.

I was just thinking about how jaw dropping it would be to watch a match where two forces are groping around during a night time scenario and the IJN player suddenly places flare markers from their float planes.

Seeing one side "mousetrap" the other in a game is always fascinating. I was at a con many years ago watching a multiplayer 2nd Bull Run game using one of AH's Great Campaigns of the American Civil War titles.

The CSA players had bamboozled the USA early on and were actually between Pope's army and DC. The USA player controlling the AotP forces seemed oblivious to the threat while Lee & Co. kept marching closer and closer.

The tension and glee kept increasing on both sides when, at the last moment, the AotP player marched out DC/Alexandria, and smashed a good portion of the CSA army killing Stonewall in the process. Things for Lee & Co. only got worse after that.

It was one of the few times I've a game actually won in an opponent's mind rather than on the table.
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>>51884277
Typically I mention that GQ3 and VAS are available in the OP whenever I plug them, but I neglected to this time.

I really want to come up with an asymetrical system with Black Cats hunting Japanese shipping or Rufes hunting PT boats. I'd been toying with the idea of a set of tables with a bit of player agency periodically for resolving sorties, solitaire game style. The idea being that it could either be a narrative generating standalone game like The Hunters, or it could function within a campaign system as a bit of extra action during a campaign turn. GQ3 has the rules available to make those sort of actions actually playable, but I have no idea how it would actually play out.
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My friends and I are going to start playing bolt action and im building soviets in summer uniform. I like Wargame Factory miniatures, but I need to find another kit for weapons team. Any suggestions?
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>>51886589
For plastic:

You could buy one or two weapon sprues and a sprue with infantry from Warlord Games. It includes AT-rifles and light machine guns (which you can model as mmg fairly easy i guess).

An alternative is the support weapon set by Plastic soldier company, it incudes 2 sprues with mmgs, 2 mortars and at-rifles.
The huge downside of this set is that its re-scaled 15mm miniatures and that really shows in their faces and also some of their poses are terrible.

And thats it for plastic. For metal the variety is huge, some names to check out are Warlord Games (obviously), Black Tree Design and my personal favorite at this point: Eureka Miniatures:
http://flyinggorilla.blogspot.co.ke/2016/07/red-army-world-war-2-support-weapons.html
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>>51885236
>I really want to come up with an asymetrical system with Black Cats hunting Japanese shipping or Rufes hunting PT boats.

Stop. I can only get so erect. ;)

A couple of years ago a guy joined our minis group with a load of schnellboots, Eboats, PTs, etc. and a copy of "Coastal Command". Over several months we wore out the blue felt table cover.

IIRC, the aviation rules weren't that hot but the rest was a damn hoot. IIRC, the UK had a steam gunboat design (SGB) that was hell on wheels, larger than the MTBs and more weapons but also much more quiet.
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>>51886677
>Eureka Miniatures
I do like the look of those teams. Do they come on bases or do I need to get my own?
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>>51886677
>And thats it for plastic. For metal the variety is huge, some names to check out are Warlord Games (obviously), Black Tree Design and my personal favorite at this point: Eureka Miniatures:
>http://flyinggorilla.blogspot.co.ke/2016/07/red-army-world-war-2-support-weapons.html
Regarding alternative models, what are maybe some lesser known manufacturers? Black tree is a favourite of mine, as well as Mad bob miniatures. Crusader works in a pinch as well as artizan. What are some more I didn't know of?
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>>51872343
Thank you kind anon!
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>>51880310
I thought we don't upload Ivan's stuff?
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Has anyone turned up Heroes, Villains, and Fiends for In Her Majesty's Name?
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>>51880310
I had no idea this existed. I'm going to have so much fun. Thank you!
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>>51887922
That's always been more of an informal rule than a hard one.
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>>51886722
Didn't TFL have a set of rather simple coastal forces rules? Maybe in one of their bi-annual magazines?

The New Guinea campaign had a lot of small boat action from what I recall, that might be fun, especially if you somehow had an abstracted way of showing how each side's ability to get supplies through affected the ground campaign.
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>>51890614
Yeah, I remember someone mentioning that before when I brought up Black Cats a while ago. Can't remember which one it is offhand though.

I still wish I could figure out which tender this pic is.
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>>51890957
>I still wish I could figure out which tender this pic is.

Barnegat-class that is certain. But which of the thirty?
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>>51890957

Got it. USS Timbalier AVP-54.

navsource DOT org/archives/09/43/4354 DOT htm
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>>51891057
>>51890957
Reverse image search suggests USS Tembalier though that's pretty low confidence.
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>>51891057
>>51891105
>>51891139
Much appreciated anons!
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>>51891152
>Much appreciated anons!

No problem. The Barnegats were an interesting lot with a wide variety of roles after naval service. Timbalier ended up as a Greek cruise ship forex.
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>>51885236
There's MTB in the pdf folders for Channel engagements between Brits and Germany, maybe you could adapt that?
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>>51891650

I looked around and somehow missed it. Could you point me in the right direction?
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>>51892234
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8a13ampzzs88/World_War_Two
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>>51892283

Thanks Anon. As I feared it was right under my nose. Can't understand how I missed it, so I'll blame Alzheimer's.
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>>51889211
hmm
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>>51895383
We've hit autosage anon
New thread will be up in an hour or two
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>>51886864
They come without bases.
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>>51887517
Check the OP, there is a huge list of mini providers.
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>>51887922
>>51889338
Generally we say "yo go buy it, he owns" but when someone uploads it, eh, at least it's more people being exposed to the games.

>>51890614
You know what's a fun small boat game? Fury on the Lakes. Alt-history WW1 where the US gets into a fight with Canada & co on the Great Lakes.
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