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>1st line on the 1st page of the Codex Astartes >"Always

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>1st line on the 1st page of the Codex Astartes
>"Always wear your helmet."
>wears his helmet

Is Roboute the smartest Primarch?
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>>51700302
>All that gold and that fucking sword
ya blew it
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Say what you want but I actually like the Armor Design, it's more fitting for a demigod monster human than just upscaled Marine Armor.
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>>51700348
well, he IS the Emperors Heir apparent.

people may not like it, in fact I don't like it, but I could see them actually killing off the Emp and making Roboute the new Emperor.
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>>51700302

his armour is kind of dissapointment after radicalous shit they came with

like you know, powerarmour armoured in terminator armour inside super powered armour with a coat of more power armour.
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>>51700419

I could see them killing off Emps and leaving him in the role of 'God' rather than 'God Emperor'.
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>>51700302
If the Emperor meant Astartes to wear helmets he wouldn't have given them the ability to spit acid.
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>>51700438
yeah but those are basically just slabs of metal and pistons on top of pistons and slabs of metal.

this new thing is practically artificer high end mechanicus stuff. As in it allows a Primarch to make use of his inherent superior speed and strenght.
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>>51700541
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>>51700348
Better?
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>>51700302
Smartest Primarch?
No but close.
Smartest Primarch Alpharius/Omegon
Two heads are better than one!
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>>51700302

>just as planned
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>>51700613
>grafting a man to a manlet
You go too far, Fabius.
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>>51700589
Now it only sorta kinda looks like a 1K Son instead of straight up being one.
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>>51700589
make the fire sword blue hot desu
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>>51700613

oh shit nigga
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>>51700648
No way, fag. That's the Burning Blade, literally the Emperor's own, and that paint scheme is directly inspired by the most famous image of the heresy, the one >>51700419 is cropped from. That sword scheme is perfect and iconic for what it is.
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>>51700589
It will be better when he puts down that faggy witch blade and picks up a fucking gladius.
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>>51700800
>The Emperor's own sword
>a faggy witch blade
I don't have a reaction that captures my response for THIS AMOUNT OF FUCKING HERESY I'M SEEING RIGHT HERE
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>>51700302
He wrote the damn book, of course HE follows it, that's not "smart", it's just consistent.
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>>51700800
>>51700829
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>>51700930

sp00ked
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>>51700800
>Faggy witch Blade
>Literally tge Emperor's Sword
Anon, are you aware that you're a heretic?
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>>51701547
>baitstika
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>>51700370
so much gold makes him look like he's part of the second company
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>>51701596
hes the fucking primarch, he can wear as much gold as he pleases.
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>>51700370
Differentiating it from standard Marine armour a bit is all well and good, but I'd imagine a Primarch's armour showing a little more restraint than the filigree clusterfuck that the plastic model turned out to be. The kit's a fine example of just cramming in detail after detail without regard to the overall composition, whereas I'd think a Primarch's armour should look more like a (good) piece of art.

>>51701596
GW likes to throw so much gold on their UM heroes that they often look Second Company anyway, even when they're not. The 6th company Captain build from the old How to Paint Space Marines book was like that.
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>>51700302
A Primarch's skull is probably stronger than any helmet desu.

Not to mention the most common fallback for helmetless marines, the Iron Halo.
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>>51702337
In 'Unremembered Empire', some Alpha Legion infiltrators dressed as Ultramarine veterans riddle an unarmored, robe-wearing Guilliman with bolter rounds. He naturally kills them all, but was said to be extremely fortunate to not have been hit in the head. Else he'd be dead.

Which means... WEAR YOUR DAMN HELMET, PRIMARCHS. A bolter can still kill with a head shot. Guess he learned.
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>>51702866
he also wears the scar of void exposure on his cheek.
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>>51702898
At this point, he should have just grabbed a dead guy's helmet to slap on his head. Since he stayed out in space, for like two hours without a helmet.

BECAUSE MAGIC.
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>>51703329
they won't fit on his head.
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>>51700302
>Is Roboute the smartest Primarch?
I hope, because if so, then I feel sorry for him when he realizes that his beloved Ultramar following the book of Lorgar.
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>>51703329
And? Primarchs do ludicrous things even without chaos.
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>>51700302
I was wondering about that lil nozzle on his bolter arm. Isn't that pilot light for flamers?

Does he preheat bolter shots?
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>>51700302
What will be his reaction when finds out the empire religion is based on Lorgar old book? I can't see him being ok with that since he hates Lorgar.
Speaking of l, which of the chaos Primarchs that remain post HH does he hates the most?
Is it Lorgar for what he did during the HH or Fulgrim for being the reason he was in stasis for thousands on years?
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>>51703755
looks like a grip to me, perhaps for precision shots?
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>>51703893
You wouldn't hold it like that.

If someone has an arm cannon, they are gonna grab their forearm nearer to the elbow like Megaman does.
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>>51701596
He saw Sicarus and wanted to imitate him
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>>51703772
seeing how Lorgar fucked up his legion the most, and how he went on to fuck Ultramar, I would say it isn't not him he hates the most. Angron did it just kinda for whatever, but Lorgar did it out of pure malice.

Would actually be kinda nice to see Roboute going after Lorgar .
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>>51703755
cypher's plasma pistol has a similar detail

it could mean any number of things, potentially it's got a better AP, like calgar's fistguns
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>>51703966
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>>51703966
>but Lorgar did it out of pure malice.
Lolwut? Actually Lorgar totally forgives Guilliman during the HH and have no pleasure to fight against him, he just doing it for military needs, while Rob acting like crybaby (like beta crybaby since he didn't even dared to fight with Night Haunter afte he tortured and killed his mother).
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>>51703772
>which of the chaos Primarchs that remain post HH does he hates the most?
He's not the sort of guy to get obsessed with personal vendettas. That was pretty much the difference between him and Dorn.
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>>51704026
This. For Dorn, the autism was all personal

For Guilliman, it's all about the state. He's a Roman republic era style stoic.
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>>51704008
reading comprehension? Lorgar destroyed Ultramar to cause destruction for his new Chaos Overlords and talked about the symphony of pain during the entire Ultramar Arc right up until he caused the ruinstorm, meanwhile Roboute still had hopes to make peace with the traitors.

Angron on the other hand was just a straight up retard so Roboute had no hard feelings for him doing what Lorgar told him to.
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>>51704053
>Lorgar destroyed Ultramar to cause destruction for his new Chaos Overlords
Wrong, after begginning he lost all his hate to Roboute, he even starts sending most crazy anti-smurfs Bearers in suicidal missions on Calth.
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>>51703966
>Angron did it just kinda for whateve
That book was such a cash grab and contradictory.
Angron was supposed to be with abaddon whilst Lorgar went to ultramar to delay Robute Gulliman.

All they did was just empower rowboat moar, I mean three, three fucking primarchs went up against his legion and the all got BTFO...

fucking ADB fucked things up, edgy bitch.
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>>51700302
So what is Marneus Calgar gonna do now? chill?
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>>51704275
Be number two like all chapter masters did during legion time.
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>>51704390
>Chapter master
>Legion times

Anon...
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>>51704419
You forgot who Marius Gage was.
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>>51700348

This, when did Girlyman turn to Tzeentch? That is some straight up Thousand Sons shit.

This is heresy
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>>51704419

They had Chapter Masters then, they were just different things.
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>>51703329

Normal space marines can withstand temporary void exposure, It's not a stretch that primarchs have better protection, or can simply tough it out.

Remember the only reason humans can't survive vaccum is because we've spent our entire development in 1 g and 1 atm; It's rather easy if you have magic-level gene engineering and implantation tech to correct an 1 atm pressure gradient.
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>>51700302
It's retarded that Russ doesn't come with his helmet, when we know he had one and even have a model for it, as worn by Ulrik the Slayer.

At /hhg/ some anon used the IW Contemptor helmet to give Perturabo a helmet. Looked nice.
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>>51700589
I'd go for a very dark blue, could make a nice contrast
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>>51704226
>suicidal missions on Calth

Calth only became a "suicide mission" after Lorgar pulled a "I was intending to lose half my legion on Calth without getting rid of the Ultramarines" bullshit.
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>>51704684
Correction, it's the Death Guard contemptor helmet.
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It's worth noting that the armour Guilliman is wearing isn't his original armour. It's something Belisarius Cawl gave him to keep him alive. Not sure exactly where it's from.
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>>51704275
be the happiest chapter master in the galaxy
>Primarch returning during your reign
what a time to be alive
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>>51704920
>Not sure exactly where it's from.
it's the thing cawl is dragging around with him, presumably what he's spent the past 9k years designing
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Will Corax come back?

Give love to BirdChapter
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>>51704585
Does that mean that at some point Humanity will have evolved/been modified enough to survive vacuum unprotected?
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>>51704998
>Will Corax come back?
nevermore
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Is GW planning on putting out any more non-demonic primarchs?
I'm totally cool with Guilliman coming back, but any other primarch would be overkill.
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>>51705158
Russ is likely gonna make a return.

>dreadnought sized wulfen
>yay...?
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>>51705158
disagree. feel like there's room for maybe a few other primarchs. like 3 at most. only because the setting has like, what, 4 daemon primarchs runnign around?

(i mean, they are probably doing fuck all, but if they add more loyalists, daemon primarchs might start doing shit)

though i think it'd be cooler if other factions started getting a new HQ unit or big guy unit of sorts in an attempt to counter/deter the loyalist primarchs
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>>51705158
>>51705233

They do sorta need to give other factions something on the sort of scale of a Primarch.
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>>51705210
Seems very likely. He will probably beat up Magnus, take back the hokus pokus of Fenris and restore the planet to its former glory.
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>>51705233
Fulrgim may or may not have been seen on a planet destroyed by EC with Sonic titans, led by Lucius, in Fracture of Biel Tan. So maybe Demonic Fulgrim soon?
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>>51705007
I guess the biggest concern when surviving in a vacuum would be the lack of oxygen and the fact that all exposed fluids will start to evaporate (like the moisture in your eyes and mouth). I think the space marines got that covered with that one geneseed implant that modifies their sweat. As far as the oxygen is concerened I could imagine an implanted "organic oxygen tank" of some sort (which could just be a big bladder filled with hemoglobin where blood can flow through to pick up the stored oxygen).
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>>51705361
Primarch bowl get hype.
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>>51700348

>Hating the Emperors sword

What are you? Some sort of nerd?
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>>51705361
He'll show up whenever GW decide to do a big cross-game slaanesh release, like they recently did with tzeentch.

Nurgle or khorne is more likely, though, since they need considerably less to be complete lines.
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Why does he have a small hand ?
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>>51704419
legions had chapter masters, they were just lead by the legion
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I want to see magnus be forgiven by his still living brothers
I want him and russ to hug it out
I want magnus,rowboat, and russ to go on a grand crusade to slslaught fulgrim
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>>51705251
Yeah that's what I think. I think it'd be cool if we got some half-savage ork warboss that's mutated and gotten fuck hueg (i know they have some sort of "never stops growing until they die" thing in their race, but they never seem to show it that well - an ogryn sized warboss would be cool actually i'm gonna think of some anti-primarch units for other races rn.)
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>>51701596
I'm a stickler for Ultramarine company colors, but wouldn't Bobby's armor correspond to Legion Ultramarines being gold?
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>>51704419
>when people open their mouths without knowing what they're talking about
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>>51705251
Orks
>warboss born on high gravity planet and is huge cause of it (similar to ogryns)
Tau
>shooting and melee focused tau battlesuit?
>tau r tfw2intlljunt and make an AI battlesuit designed of rfighting primarchs and taking no casualties if they lose???
>bigger riptide????
Necrons
>a C'tan/stargod or whatever they are called
AdMech
>fancier looking castellax type of thing
Tyranids
>a more evolved tyranid, sized between hive-tyrant and broodlord. heavy emphasis on it being more evolved and having lots of carapace on it
GK (not rly needed but lol)
>A HQ dreadknight unit, a grand master librarian in a dreadknight or something absolutely ridiculous
Imperial guard/militarum tempestus
>bring back Sly Marbo
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>>51705607
>>bring back Sly Marbo
IG OP, pls nerf
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>>51705630
>daemon primarch police officer tries to shave Sly Marbo's face
>goes apeshit, kills 20 or so chaos warriors in full power armour while bare handed
>runs into the warp the madman
>daemon primarch police follows, brings his legion with him
>Sly Marbo destroys an entire chaos legion almost single handedly

HUMANITY FUCK YEAH
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>>51705607
>Orks
>>warboss born on high gravity planet and is huge cause of it (similar to ogryns

Nah, any warboss older than a few centuries fits the bill nicely.

> ARD ONES GET BIGGA INNIT
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I wonder what Bobby would do to certain deathwatch killteam that tried to prevent his resurrection.
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>>51705431
Because the other one is a power fist. It's the right size actually, but the posing and perspective puts it wayyyyy back.
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>>51705795
It's not like the knew that it would serve this purpose.
Hell, the eldars didn't either.
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>>51701758
>a Primarch's armour should look more like a (good) piece of art.
There's a style of art called Rococo. You might want to learn what that is.
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>>51705781
size wouldn't be the best solution, when Orks get too large they tend to be awkward and just a target for bigger guns.

A high gravity planet could actually be a good idea since it would mean that the ork has much higher muscle density at mediocre size gains.

Similar to Grimgor in the Fantasy Universe, who isn't the biggest Boss, but so wild, fast and strong that he's basically the most dangerous Orc of all time.
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>>51704886
why is there a turd on the ground in front of him?
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>>51705857
Perturabo is kind of a shit?
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>>51705828
>Rococute Guilliman
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>>51700462
and then we'd get Empcarne, Avatar of the Emperor
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>>51701565
yeah, isbaitsika
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>>51705828
>expecting random /tg/ shitters to actually educate themselves

He is the kind of person who says certain models he likes are okay, because they "fit the 'gothic' theme of 40k" yet doesn't know what gothic actually means.
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>>51705857
his name is Perturdbado so
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>>51705835
And now he's dead.
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>>51706331
he lives on in our hearts.
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>>51705607
AdMech just got Cawl. So probably nothing for them on that front. A transport or two would be nice though. If only Forgeworld would put out Fires of Cyraxus...
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>>51704684
>>51704886
Do you got a pic of Helmeted Perturabo? Sounds cool enough that I wanna see the model.
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Hi, ignorant here, is that actually his body size? shouldn't he be like 2 heads taller than a Space Marine? His mini is 3 TIMES taller than one
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>>51706466
he's pretty big
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>>51704940
>alive
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>>51706788
Like 21ft big?
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>>51700302
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>>51706141
which will get its own £120 model
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>>51706837
around*
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>>51706466
I might be wrong but in my readings I always got the feeling that they sorta just made the primarchs different heights depending on who was writing. The only constant was that they were all "huge" compared to a normal marine, magnus was the biggest guy, and alpharius was relatively small and nondescript enough to blend in with his normal troops.
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>>51706788
for you
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>>51706880
Honestly my favorite scene in BL books is the part where Guilliman confronts Lorgar on Nuceria and Lorgar realises that all the arrogance and insults he just projected and Guilliman never had a thing against him and for a moment feels like a total shitter because he started a galactic rebellion partly due to an inferiority complex.
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>>51706880
Why some Primarchs look older than others? aren't they literally the same age?
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>>51706983
They started the same age but due to warp shenanigans they have experienced different amounts of subjective time since then.
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>>51706964

It's why I can't take the Horus Heresy series seriously.

I always imagined as a kid the Primarchs were beyond humanity, were giga-humans, that they would think in the 4th fucking dimension.

But they were written as whiny teenage girls and it never made any sense to me.

Guilliman may just be the only one written as an adult.

>>51706983

Makes sense they would be we are all products of our enviroments.

I would expect Guilliman, having been born on a paradise world to look a little more youthful than Mortation who grew up on Planet Poison on the Continent of Toxic Waste, in Miasma Village.

then again, the sculpture who did Aurelian for Forgeworld did a terrible terrible terrible job, Aurelian was supposed to be the most beautiful Primarch, most resembling his Father. Instead we got an ancient looking crotchety grandpa with hanging jowls and wrinkles for days.
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>>51707108
that aurelian had his face burnt off by a titan, and then punched in by guiliman in the meanwhile. On top of that chaos did a number on it.

Lorgar of the FW model isn't as pretty anymore as he used to be pre armatura.
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So Spesh Morons can't fuck, but could Primarchs? did they have descendancy?
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>>51707145

>but could Primarchs?

No. The Primarchs and the Space Marines were tools, they were never supposed to replace humanity.
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>>51700613
this has not been pointed out enough. the new girlieman model really does look like a rubric, I can't take this model seriously because it reminds me of the new ksons so much. would prefer less curlicues everywhere.
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>>51700302
So, obviously Guilliman´s MkVII helmet is fucking awful. What helmet would suit him better?
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>>51707265
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>>51704886
I really hope all the post-heresy Primarch models GW releases in the future come with an alternate helmet option. Sometimes I might just prefer them to wear one instead of looking at their faces, especially if they look awful.
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>>51707265
I would add crest.
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>>51707369
All the FG primarchs have awful faces except maybe one or two, same with GW Rob, I want to believe is the paintjob but I don't think so
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>>51707108
>I would expect Guilliman, having been born on a paradise world to look a little more youthful than Mortation who grew up on Planet Poison on the Continent of Toxic Waste, in Miasma Village, Wisconsin.
fix'd
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>>51707108
>Guilliman may just be the only one written as an adult.

Guilliman was the only one with an emotionally healthy upbringing.
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>>51707644
I think Dorn also had normal parents, even if he still turned out to be an autist.
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>>51706274
>>51705828
Is this the kind of thing you guys talk about at starbucks while you're working off your student loans?
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>>51705563
>Not reading the shit lubed clusterfuck that is 30k makes me a bad person

Perpetuals.
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>>51707644
All because he had an Italian momma
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>>51700302
im a little behind the times. whats this talk about rowboat becoming active again?
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>>51709635
Apparently the Mechanicum got off their toasters, and one of their magos teamed up with the Eldar and revived Girlyman.
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>>51707265
I think it looks great, and from xhat I've seen here, many people agree.

The Dr.Egg mustache helmet might suit marines but not him.
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>>51704008
>like beta crybaby since he didn't even dared to fight with Night Haunter afte he tortured and killed his mother

Night Haunter actually killed her? I thought he just showed up on the same planet and Vulkan fought him off.
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>>51705251
Imagine. Eldar without helmets. They'd sell like hotcakes.
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>>51705471
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>>51707265
looks better than his shitty - whats his face.
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>>51708000
He's probably the next least retarded one, though. At least from what we see of him, dude's humble and aware of his own faults.
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I AM SO GOD DAMN BUTTMAD WE GET TWO COUNT EM TWO MODELS FOR RAWBUTT AND SMURF BOY GETS TO BE THE POSTERBOY AND THE FIRST PRIMARCH TO COME BACK BUT THE LION? YOU KNOW, THE ONLY PRIMARCH THAT WAS CONFIRMED 100% ALIVE HE GETS THE SHAFT

THERE IS NO JUSTICE
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>>51713025
Lion is literally a faggot.
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>>51703966
>"I'm meant to do something with this...but what?"
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>>51707265

There's not enough Roman stuff in any piece of his armour.
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>>51703370

That Grineer looks surprisingly mellow.
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>>51709063
Perpetuals are the future.

Enjoy your hundreds of new uber demigod superhuman subfactions now.

We Age of Emprah soon.
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>>51713303
>I might be the only one who tries to follow them as they do their duties as I listen to the conversations.
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>>51713025
but the lion is a traitor though.
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>>51713025
daemon primarchs have the priority among traitors
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>>51706447
anon...
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>>51700302
yeah? what is badass a sergeant with or without the helmet?
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>>51713303
well, even an ounce of awareness must be crushingly depressing for a Grineer.
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>>51711322
hat would be correct mostly, the Wolves fought him until Vulcan showed up I believe, she didn't die regardless, the other anon is just spouting bullshit
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>>51700302
Maybe not at first, but by now he almost certainly is, what with the helmet giving him a long career free of severe concussions from being shot in the face with boltors
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>>51700800
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>>51708428

No, it's the kind of thing I point out to shitters like you on 4chan because I have nothing better to do with my time. What's the matter, you mad you can't even capitalize Starbucks correctly or use Google to look up the word gothic or Roccoco?
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>>51709063
No, not knowing the fundamentals of 30k legions while claiming you know something is what makes you a bad person.
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>>51700348
What the fuck is your problem now?
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>>51703772
>implying it will be even mentioned in the new fluff
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>>51705251
I want this fucking escalation to stop.
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>>51705828
It looks like shit.
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>>51704533
Yess he looks like a tzeentchian juggernaut champion if anything.
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>>51708000

Nothing autistic about fixing what you broke.
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