/btg/ Battletech

And still misses the Discord.

FFS Anon, get it right for once.

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>>51689453
>More goodies! (Rare manuals, hex packs, TROs, discord server
It's in the pastebin. What am I missing now?

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>>51689347

I think you need to do a clean sheet redesign from the base chassis rather than messing with an existing config, because there's not enough room to fit so many DHS. Even if you remove the arm actuator, the tonnage isn't there.

>>51689107
>a blood kite that doesn't look utterly vomit-inducing

It's a miracle

>>51688233
>alright so that was their invasion numbers not clan total, thanks

True, but if you're playing in a Clan Invasion era game, the numbers and composition of the units located in the Homeworlds are moot anyway since they won't play a part in your games.

>>51689506
That is so odd. I simply removed the weapons from the A and it came out all right. I wonder where the screw-up came from.

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>>51689506
>>51690072
I tried it again with both MegaMek and SSW and got weird results. The crits worked out, but both were underweight.

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>>51689680
Might as well post it here as well, then.

>>51690761
>Lao Hu isn't digitgrade
You fucked up.

Trebuchet with JJ and SRMs, basically an in-between the -5J and -5S
Yes or no?

>>51690884
Very yes. SRM Treb basically screams city fighter and the JJs help it excel there, and I've done similar myself.

Introtech I just ditch some heat sinks for the jets, but beyond that a simple DHS refit makes the weight and then some allowing for beefed up armor.

>>51690860
The TRO art and the models for it show it as plantigrade.

Only the Mechcommander 2 version shows it as digitigrade, but then again, mechcommander 2 made both the cyclops and the enfield digitigrade.

Was there ever a time the Lyrans made worse mechs than the Dracs or Free Worlders?

I want to make like a second line Lyran force with their crap mechs.

>>51690761
Newb here, what are these?

>>51691105
Closest thing to bad mechs they ever have are the ones they capture from their non-Clan neighbors. So make it a force of Albatrosses, Hermes IIs, Dragons and Panthers.

>>51691243
Doodles art anon does.

In order, from left to right:

>Top row
Dervish, Blood Kite, Lao Hu

>Bottom row
Avatar, Lobo, Mad Cat Mk II

>>51690860
It technically isn't
The best version (mech commander 2) has chicken legs, though

>>51690982
Enfield looks way better in MC2, though.

>>51691508
Oh I know, but since I like the MC one a lot, and have a custom I think needs to be digitgrade, I am OFFENDED by plantigrade Lao Hus.

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>>51691533
Someone tried to fix it using the original TRO art

>>51691559
Cappie mechs have some great aesthetic

>>51691635
True. Their TRO has almost always been more fun than the other Houses.

One of my favorites was TRO 3055. What did the CapCon get? The Snake, Huron Warrior and Thunder. Each fit a state-oriented top-down industry.

>Snake uses the Vindicator chassis and is geared towards anticipation fighting battle armor
>Huron Warrior is a platform to carry a gauss and provide support
>Thunder exists put more heavies in the field and has an AC/20

Just works great. They're not flashy, they're not perfect FedCom toys, but they function well as part of a unit.

>>51691559
Jesus, I hate Franz Vhowinkel more than I hate Lewis, Knutson, or Huda. His line art is like bad G.I. Joe comic book art. Painful stuff.
>>51691997
Caps are definitely the fun mech Confederation

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>>51692103
>Jesus, I hate Franz Vhowinkel more than I hate Lewis, Knutson, or Huda. His line art is like bad G.I. Joe comic book art. Painful stuff.

Okay good idea for a topic for this new thread. Who is everybody's favorite artists for: machines, character art, painting quality art (highly colored), action scenes and other? I'd love to hear opinions.

Is it possible to run the Mechwarrior RPG via Roll20? Has anyone ever tried?

>>51690761
N i c e

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>>51692175

In the last categories, I have no clear favourites but re: the first two:

>machines
Shimmy.
>character art
The dude or dudette who did the newish Era Report art with Cute Aletha Kabrinski and Colonel "Simon from Demolition Man".

>>51692175
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>Who is everybody's favorite artists for: machines
Plog, hands down. His initial work is weird (Those Clan vehicles but he became Elder God tier ever since.

>character art
I like the Masters and Minions art, but I don't know which picture was done by who

>painting quality art (highly colored), action scenes
Both shimmering sword and flying debris

>and other?
The guy who did Maximum Tech cover (Mike something) was also good at doing colored and B&W illustrations

>>51690761
Damn son, those are some nice sketches. Did you also do that Crusader that's floating around here? It looks like your work

>>51690165

Jum jets. I assumed that part of the copying the Nova thing meant making the TImber Wolf 5/8/5 rather than just 5/8.

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>>51690860
Have your digitigrade Lao Hu.

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>>51692523
I did the Crusader and the Bandersnatch, yeah.

It's my way of shitposting /btg/.

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>>51692175
For characters I've long had a fondness for Earl Geier's stuff. Could be a bit inconsistent in quality, but given the sheer amount of illustrations he made in the early 90s for the game it's not surprising.

>>51692625
That is a thousand times better version of the Bandersnatch than the TRO art.

>>51692175
Plog is up there for 'mech art: his technical drawings are pretty much bar-none. ShimmeringSword does great art pieces, things that are great for illustration or telling a story.

Most of the rest of the art seems to take a backseat though. Character art is mostly mediocre-to-crap, with a few good pieces/artists, but nothing spectacular -- no surprise though, since the humans aren't the stars of the show. Other art tends to be poor. I think back to looking at the equipment showcases from MW2 and how nearly everything was a derivative of a Desert Eagle or M16.

Though whoever did the equipment art in TW/etc. did a great job. Guessing that's Plog?

>>51691105

I think all of their 3145 machines are said to be lack luster, like their King Crab variant and their Zeus-X.

>>51693007
>equipment showcases from MW2 and how nearly everything was a derivative of a Desert Eagle or M16

Wasn't that TRO 3026? I remember it had the "AR-18 with a funny butt" and "M16 with the serial number and some bits filed off" art for the personal equipment. Also one of the weapons was a direct copy of a weapon from 2300AD with some minor differences. They actually might have been by the same artist, IIRC.

>>51692473
She looks like that girl next door friend type that ends up sucking your dick In your truck after a football game because she feels like guys aren't interested in her and misinterprets your friendship.

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>>51692175
>Who is everybody's favorite artists for: machines, character art, painting quality art (highly colored), action scenes and other? I'd love to hear opinions.

Jim Holloway, and that's not just because of his other work on Dungeons and Dragons, Star Frontiers and Paranoia.

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What's your favorite Kurita mech?

And what do you think of rear-facing weapons?

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>>51693400
Yes on Assaults

Akuma, probably.

"What if we made an Atlas, but made it look EVEN MEANER."

>>51692625
>I did the Crusader and the Bandersnatch, yeah.

>It's my way of shitposting /btg/.

If that's your definition of shitposting, spread them ass cheeks and let 'er fly. You do professional work.

>>51692619
Aww yea nigga thats whats up!

>>51693449
>"What if we made an Atlas, but made it look EVEN MEANER."
And more useless.
Can't forget that.

>>51692473
>The dude or dudette who did the newish Era Report art with Cute Aletha Kabrinski and Colonel "Simon from Demolition Man".

You know...that Aletha looks a LOT like the old-school Incase sameface.

I'm not saying Incase did that art, but...

>>51692625
Cool. Would you be interested in doing the Lineholder in your style? It's a great design, but it suffers horribly from 3058 syndrome

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>>51686380

As requested, reposting compiled data.

This data is an accounting of EVERY Clan unit found in the Clan Jade Falcon Sourcebook, so people can build accurate Invasion-era RATs and/or argue about stuff from a position of knowledge rather than ignorance and what's listed on Sarna (but I repeat myself).

A few notes:
1) I'm almost certainly off by 1-2 Mechs across the entire project just through sheer attrition, but I can't see having missed more than ~3 in total. There's not going to be enough margin for error to significantly change distributions.

2) The number of Mad Cats from the Sourcebook is increased by 1, and the number of Mad Dogs is dropped by 1. The CJF Sourcebook lists Aiden Pryde as piloting a Mad Dog, when we have incontrovertible evidence he piloted a Mad Cat: novels always trump sourcebooks. However, I wanted to ensure I'm copping to the fact that I changed this result from the Sourcebook.

3) This isn't the entire CJF Touman. Several galaxies stayed back in the Homeworlds. However, since those galaxies didn't participate in Revival, their presence or absence from the overall distribution is immaterial. For purposes of construction Invasion unit distributions, they may as well not exist.

4) The numbers aren't all divisible by 5 because there are several formations (mostly Solamha) who don't have full stars. There's an aerospace trinary with 4 fighters, for example.

5) Also, some genius constructed a Star containing 4 Ullers and a Daishi. Yes, really. 8th Falcon Regulars, Trinary Bravo, Bravo Eye 3 Star. Page 84.

6) If somebody wants my raw data note-taking sheet for some reason, I can post that again. My next post will be a PNG of this data so mobile types don't have to load a PDF.

7) The only changes made from last night's posting are corrections to typos ("OmniFighter" to "AeroFighter", and increasing a column width to account for the length of the word "Sparrowhawk"). No actual data has been changed from that posting to this.

>>51690761
The Blood Kite just resists unfucking.

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>>51693995

>and the PNG

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>>51693793
Never heard of him, but I just checked ER3052 and I think the one who did Aletha was just about the only one who didn't sign the art. Col Francis "Simon Phoenix" Carranza and Col Grayson "Rod Stewart" Carlyle were by Ray Arrastia (and I fucking swear Jaime Wolf, Morgan Kell and Ulric Kerensky are based on some real-life personality). The perennial favourite of /btg/, Lincoln Osis and the incredible illustration of Subhash Indrahar, for example, are by Eric Williams. But son of a bitch, the artist who did two of my favourite pictures in the book, ie. Aletha and the one in pic related, didn't bother to sign.

Pic related: the man who measures a full 12 on the 1-10 "hard man" scale, Shin Yodama.

>>51694028
Grayson Carlyle is almost obviously based off of Owen Wilson though. Don't forget that Shang Tsung is Charles Bronson in yellowface too.

>>51693995
>Also, some genius constructed a Star containing 4 Ullers and a Daishi. Yes, really. 8th Falcon Regulars, Trinary Bravo, Bravo Eye 3 Star. Page 84.

And? I've used that composition and it rocks.

>>51693999
What's wrong with it?

Should the laser barrels be more embedded into the frame?

>>51694028

Clearly you don't go to /d/.

Also, I'm like 98% sure that's not Incase. He doesn't put blush on the cheeks like that. I'd put a lot of money on it being Mark Winters. If you'll look at pic related, the pencil blending style on the face - while rougher - is nearly identical.

Winters has a dA page. You could contact him there and ask.

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>>51694202

Fuck you for stripping my image when I clearly needed that not to happen.

OK, Mark Winters sketch, take 2.

>If you'll look at pic related, the pencil blending style on the face - while rougher - is nearly identical.

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>>51694077
Damn, I missed Tsen Bronson, probably because when I think of Bronson I think of Death Wish III.

Also, and I don't know how I missed *this*, but Hanse H. Davion is James T. Kirk and now that that I think of it, Jaime Wolf looks suspiciously like Sean Connery as Marko Ramius. Ulric looks so bloody familiar but I can't connect the face.

I think Aidan "FOXHOUND" Pryde is also by the one who did Shin and Aletha as well. Still on the fence with Barbara Sennet, who, whilst mega cute, looks slightly not-similar.

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>>51694028
>based on some real-life personality
>not traced over shots of real life personalities

This is the reason I dislike Masters and Minions or the ER3052 portrait art.

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>>51694202
>Clearly you don't go to /d/

Nnnnope. I ventured there once and... nnnope.

But yeah, Aletha's pic does look a lot like Rogue, maybe run through a bit of Photoshop.

And damn it, I still can't tell who Khan Ulric reminds me of. The closest I got was Mark Hamill as Christopher Blair with a moustache and beard added.

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>>51694118
>>51693999
I mean, one can bring all the weapons closer into the main frame, but then it loses much of its old charm and makes it look more and more like Alex' Linebacker and Nova.

>>51694077
>Grayson Carlyle is almost obviously based off of Owen Wilson though.
I thought Carlyle was written in the 1980s, unless you're talking about his son. (I forget what his name was.)

>Don't forget that Shang Tsung is Charles Bronson in yellowface too.
I thought there was a guy in I think Rolling Thunder who looked like Bronson.

>>51694372
Yeah, he looks a lot like mark hamil in that one obscure movie where he had a beard

>>51694462
No anon, go look at ER:3052, or any of Ray Arrastia's art, where all of his characters are based off of celebrities. Or jump in without paying attention to the conversation. 50/50.

>>51694442

I like better this >>51690761
way anon

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>>51694442
You're not playing on game-centered hitboxes here. Go with the more unique look, imo.

Are the Capellans wrong for the degree of venomous animosity they old towards the Federated Suns?

Capellans seem hate the Suns the way the Suns hate the Combine in the Draconis March.

>>51695347
>Are the Capellans wrong for the degree of venomous animosity they old towards the Federated Suns?

The Capellans are wrong because they're Capellans. If their leaders weren't insane people willing to pull tactics completely beyond the pale, the Suns wouldn't have been morally obligated to go stomp on them.

They made their bed, now they can lie in it. Might as well ask if Nazis are wrong for having animosity towards Americans or Russians.

>>51695221
Your mech looks horrible and animu-generic

Mission Impossible Tom Cruise for Aidan

>>51695586
Your face looks horrible.
Also, for all the shit the redrawn Jap edition Battletech designs get, they are anything but generic anime look.
Battletech is using the generic anime look, these guys are for the better or worse unique.

desudesu

>>51693951
>Lineholder

Sure.

>>51694582
>>51695221
I'm just curious as to what elements of the blood kite that one anon finds un-likeable.

Like I said, if one were to bring the weapons closers to the frame, then the end result would look like a larger fisted version of Alex' Linebacker he did for MWO.

>>51693793
Well, I guess she's not compensating for lacking anything down there by driving a Fire Moth.

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On a scale of 1 - 10, how bad is the Cyclops?

And is there even any point in taking one?

>>51693306
This is my fetish

>>51695998

-32. Compared to the Hellstar, it's complete worthless shit. Totally not worth taking one unless you're doing it for fluff. And if you aren't playing a game to win, what's the point?

>>51695221
That looks terrible and even more nonsensical that the nonsense we already have.

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>>51696065

>Hellstar

I'd rather not get hard countered by the Quasimodo.

Plus, don't the Kraken and Daishi put out more damage than a Hellstar technically speaking?

I keep hearing they can out do the thing for damage.

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>>51696116
>even more nonsensical that the nonsense we already have.

You can't have less than nothing, anon.
Making sense was never a part of Battletech, like it or not.
Go watch Patlabor or something if you want to play the sensible/realistic/... note, this is just a game where giant robots do backflips to punch each other.

>That looks terrible.
They wouldn't win a beauty contest but it's done to a reasonable standard which puts it pretty high as far as Battletech art goes.

>>51695998
(assuming 1 is a Targe, 10 is Gausszilla on steroids)
Purely competitively: 3. The Cyclops carries an AC/20, which is pretty scary in 3025, but has relatively frail armor and isn't good for much outside 6-9 hexes. If you see one, respect the threat of the can opener, but otherwise feel free to disrespect with PPCs at your option.

Fluffy: 5. It's a hell of a command ride thanks to Quirks, it's an assault in an era when those were worth their weight in gold-pressed latinum, no matter how bad they are, and it's got a can opener. You could do worse, but still, it does have issues. Turns out that its armor is terrible, it's over-engined, and its only long-range threat is an LRM-10, which is pretty puny honestly.

Overall: Great fluff choice for appropriate factions, wouldn't take it for much else.

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>>51695850
>>51693951
Here is your lineholder doodle.

>>51696941
Looks great man. Thanks

>>51696941
Damn you work fast, keep up the awesome work artanon!

>>51696941
Fuck, you nail the BT aesthetic so hard

>>51696941
would fight in the chaos march with/10

>>51696941
Now make a Cobra, the more cylon the better.

>>51697084
shit nigga, at least say please

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Any fellow Canopus players here?

Or really any other factions besides FWL. I've gathered from the last few weeks spent here that /btg/ is purple bird central.

Why did you pick the faction you did? I went with the Magistracy for perhaps a silly reason: I'd just read "Dune" for the first time, remembered Arrakis was Canopus III, and when reading Battletech lore saw "Canopus" and just went with it. Haven't regretted it as I've gone on with the faction.

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>>51697097
>Any fellow Canopus players here?

You came to the wrong neighborhood, motherfucker.

NEA is a big whoretrannyfag, and there's at least one other guy

>>51697097
Clanfag here, the reason I chose my faction is complex and hard to describe, but in short:

JAG HARDER

>>51696338

I've always thought the problem was that it's, in theory, a moderately protected command 'mech, but when you really look at it the damn thing is built purely for close range brawling. SRM 4, two medium lasers, that AC 20 with only the LRM 10 for long range work.

So it has a role where it's too slow to reach a firing position, too fragile to last very long and everyone that isn't drunk is just going to avoid it.

>>51697097
I'm a Taurian guy. I picked them because periphery 2e and fuck year space cowboys.

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>>51697097
>Or really any other factions besides FWL

The Word of Blake: because false-flags are fun!

>>51697097

Magistracy is objectively the worst faction except all the other ones. No MOC player has ever contributed anything of note to the Battletech community; every one of them is a waste of humanity. The only thing worse than an MOC player is CGL.

>>51695221
That looks like that one animu pic which is an amalgamation of various well known anime girls and archetypes in one big joke.

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>>51697154
Hell, at least they were always interesting and went out swinging.

>>51697096
You're right. I got excited and came off all demanding. A cobra would look fantastic in that style though.

>>51696941
You whipped that up, THAT FAST?! Whoa.

>>51697148

What's an NEA? Wasn't Trump getting rid of that?

>>51697538
>>51697084
I'll do more later. Need to enter Clan training doctrine mandated resting stasis now.

>>51696314
Yes, but BT is western nonsense. Less so at the start, but far moreso now. That's eastern nonsense, and a move back to the bad old days. Nobody wants to go back to the bad old days. Keep it western.

>>51697666

But battletech was only good when it was cribbing off of eastern mech designs.

>>51697097
I like playing Jags, because JAG HARDER even if I'm shit and need to git gud so I don't die horribly every time

So sometime in the future im gonna play in a campaign as the fed sun side of fed com. Any advice on which mechs are essential fed sun standerds and compitent on the battlefield? Also wanted to pick up some aerospace and tanks but im having trouble figuring out which of those to buy.

>>51697530
Did the artist do any more mechwarriors in their panties?

>>51697698
Battletech was never good before 2000, what are you talking about?

You have a Blood Spirit's approval of your Blood Kite sketch, Sketching-Anon.

I'm just trying to get into this game, and I really prefer premade scenarios to just having a random map rumble. What are some good one to get?

>>51697834
Did the Blood Spirits really arm their lower castes en masse and get wiped out for it?

are the Smoke Jaguars the ABSOLUTE MADMEN of the Clans?

>>51697097
ComGuard fag reporting in. phonecompany4life

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>>51697666
>Yes, but BT is western nonsense.

How?
Western mecha looks like >pic related, Voltron, Chappie,....
Meanwhile, it's Japanese who use boxy designs and all that shit that is so popular in Battletech right now, just look at IBO, Code Geass, FMP, and many many more.

>>51697923
Nah, that's the Hellions

>>51697097
I mostly play for the stompy robots but when I faction-fag it's either pre-schism Comstar/WoB because wizard robes, and the whole aesthetic, or Marians as I'm a big ancient Rome guy.

>>51697872
Yep.

>>51697097
Lyrans.

I like space Prussia/Germany

>>51697743

Get TR 3058 for Gausswalling along with Project Phoenix and RSU upgrades for old models and TR 3067 for FCCW machines.

>>51697872

It was amongst the many grievances the other surviving Homeworld Clans had with the Blood Spirits. In the end, they were an abject lesson of the new regime much in the way the Wolverines were for the old one.

>>51698301

That and everyone else hated the Blood Spirits for being miserable pricks.

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Who wants a really silly design challenge? Pic unrelated

Make a mech whose BV is divisible by 1000. Bonus points for not making underweight mechs

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>>51698341
>Make a mech whose BV is divisible by 1000.
Sorry man, I don't have that level of weapons grade autism.

>>51697593
Art anon, are you putting your doodles on the booru? If not, please do because these are great and I always forget to save them.

>>51697593
>>51698538
This. Put a tag with your name on it like "Badboy_McFadden" minus the quotes. You need the underscore between the first and last name to make it catch.
>Celebrity name impersonated.

>>51698323

>being miserable pricks

That's all Clans.

>>51698341
50 tons, Endo, XL, SHS, 6/9, Small Cockpit, AC10 w 2 tons ammo, 5 SL, 5 SPL, ERSL, Flamer, 10 tons armor.

1000 BV and 50 tons.

>>51696941
You know, if you decide to git gud at clean official style lineart (just copy Alex Iglesias plis) and have the desire, you're pretty much guaranteed work at CGL.
Aka, a job where the pay is never worth it, so you better enjoy it :P

>>51699181
I still marvel at how you give no fucks and still get work, I really do.

>>51699205
I mean, he is a hobo, just a hobo with an art tablet

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>>51699205
I ran out of figurative fucks when I started giving them literally.

>>51699205
Nepotism, man, nepotism. He knows someone, so it works out for him. If, say, Plog said that shit, he'd be fucked.

>>51699205
That says more about Catalyst than anything else

>>51699250
>implying you get laid with anything other than an Elemental realdoll

>>51699250
So you fucked Randall, Brent, and/or Ray for the gig? It all makes so much sense. Question, is the beard a turn on?

>>51697250
>So it has a role where it's too slow to reach a firing position
Actually that's not an issue, or rather it is but in the opposite way. The root of the Cyclops' problems are the fact that it's too damned fast and that big engine doesn't leave enough weight for useful things like armor.

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>>51699267
[UncomfortableShifting]

>>51699275
Remember the whole beardoff? That was really so I could get at them smooth.

Let's say I want to make a lance or company of Marik unseen in the Jihad. What should I take?

>>51699488
Four Stingers.
I kid.
Four Stalkers

>>51693287
IIRC, MW2 mostly reused the art from TRO 3026 for the equipment section.

>>51699488
>What should I take?

Marauders, Warhammers and nukes. Go Regulate some Blakists for the Prince.

>>51699558
Same designs, but the art is new and the not!ARs and such aren't shown.

>>51697097
True periphery taste, my brother. I do Taurians myself.

>>51694509
Star Wars VII? Rather obscure, indeed.

>>51699738
The picture predates SW VII by some years, though

>>51699738
I accidentally missed putting "80s" after obscure

>>51699614
A company is not gonna be 6 marauders and 6 warhammers

Also, what variants specifically?

>>51697719
But Anon, playing that way is 100% fluff accurate! Jag harder, indeed.

>>51697743
Just pick the best of everything, odds are that you'll be picking FS hardware.

>>51699297
Well, if you downgrade the engine, it rapidly turns into Atlas Junior. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing honestly, every Atlas I ever fielded died to concentrated long range fire.

Any suggestions for building a 3025-50 assault lance that could conceivably belong to literally any faction?
Unseen are OK, i can lay hands on the appropriate Warhansa ones

>>51696226
With the Kraken, I assume you're talking about the 3 and 4 versions, because the standard one is utter garbage. Yes, the Kraken 3 and 4 are raw damage machines. The difference is that the Kraken 3 has much smaller damage groupings, leading to a sort of sanding effect where you're wearing away at armor across the entire enemy. The Hellstar has more concentrated damage in 15 point groupings, which also has the benefit of giving you four head-cappers. The Kraken 4 on the other hand has a pair of UAC/20s, meaning while it has both fierce damage and good damage grouping, it lacks range. Both are nice in their own way, but I don't think either is a straight up replacement for the Hellstar.

The Daishi is often just a mess. Most of its loadouts lack the heat sinks to properly use its weapons. So while in theory it has more guns, in practice the Hellstar actually has better damage because it runs so much cooler.

>>51700018
All Unseens, all the time. All of them were fielded by everybody, in one form or another.

>>51700018
Stalker, two thuds and either an awesome or atlas. Even fits in the periphery

>>51699977
How Atlasy it becomes would depend on how you use the tonnage freed up, even after maxing the armor on a slowed 10-Z you have 12 tons left. You could stick on a PPC and a bunch of heat sinks to aid in its ranged game for example.

35 tons
5/8/5 Movement
Endo Steel Internals
7.5 tons standard armor
10 (20) DHS
2 Light PPCs
5 Small Pulse Lasers

Total BV: 1000

>>51699885
A company in the Jihad isn't going to be full unseens either. The FWL got into the Phoenix programs harder than almost any other state. Just saying a force wouldn't be complete without some old Warhammer 6R's and Marauder 3M's.

If I had to scatter stuff out, full company, all unseen, final destination then maybe something like this. Feel free to substitute a Battlemaster for your command ride or a Thunderbolt or Ost for the Shad to beef up the middle lance or whatever.


Scout Lance (demilance pairs)
Phawk 3M
Wasp 1A
Locust 1E
Locust 3M


Scuffle Lance
Shad 5M
Archer 4M
Archer 4M
Griffin 1N

Command lance
Marauder 3M
Warhammer 6R
Warhammer 7M
Goliath 3M

>>51700237
Also, you can replace the weapons with 1 PPC, 2 SPLs, and 4 SLs. Still 1000 BV, but with a full size PPC instead of two light PPCs

>>51700018

Atlas (AS7-D)
Highlander (HGN-733)
Warhammer (WHM-6R)
Banshee (BNC-3E)

Well they can't all be winners. Knocked together from Star Leige era designs and battlefield salvage this lance could be found in the military of any Great House, or as a very well equipped 'merc unit. The Warhammer is, technically, not an assault 'mech but brings more firepower to the party then the poor bastard that gets stuck driving the Banshee.

The downgraded Highlander is the rarest machine of the bunch, and likely the hardest part of the lance to keep fighting.

>>51698341
In the same vein as >>51700237
35 tons
5/8/5 Movement
7.5 tons standard armor
10 (20) DHS
1 Large Laser
2 Medium Lasers
1 Small Laser
2 Flamers

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I'm not sure if this is a really good or really bad idea

>>51700435
That is fucking kick ass. 10/10 would crab with.

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>>51700269

>Banshee (BNC-3E)

Makes me glad most of the Banshees present after 3050 (and perhaps before then) are the gun heavy Lyran ones.

>>51693449
Is it crammed full of SHS?

>>51700435
It's fucking great. Easily upgrades to ERPPCs for a L1.5, too.

Is replacing the engine and heat sinks (from single to double) something that can be done with a refit kit or something that has to be done at a factory?

>>51700532

-3S is limited to the FedCom and FRR. -5S adds Kell Hounds, WD, and Mercs.

Less common than you'd like, I suspect.

>>51700942
Field refit.

>>51700967

>Less common than you'd like, I suspect.

I'm aware of that.

However, the bulk of the Banshees are in Lyran hands, and the Lyrans upgraded most of them into the gun heavy ones.

The base model eventually becomes the minority after a while. Especially since the Lyrans are, to my knowledge, the only ones still producing Banshees.

>re-reading 20YU out of boredom
>hasid ricol is a strong political ally for theodore, and is rewarded for his loyalty with land and power in the Alshain district
>lol rused, i was a black dragon all along

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>>51701064
It's the Combine, bro.

>>51700435
>Disco Crab
>jesuschristhowhorrifying.png

>>51701064
>The ISF man who was like a second father to Teddy turns out to be a top level black dragon
It's like every single person who survived from the 3025 era went black dragon later no matter how little it made sense.

It's almost as stupid as all of post-invasion Rasalhague
>In 3010 the top personal bodyguard of the Coordinator was a hog
>In 3020 the Keeper of House Honor was a hog and the daughter of Warlord Rasalhague
>tfw hogs had more power under the dragon than they ever did under the bears and yet the Dominion still happened

>>51701174

More freedom too, since the Dracs were largely unsuccessful in cultural reformation or control but they enthusiastically embraced the Caste system and do whatever the Bears say.

>>51700942
>>51700979
Engine swaps are right at the edge of what can be done in the field. Putting a new reactor into a 'mech is a major job.

Replacing the engine cooling system so you can switch to DHS from SHS is easier.

I dont understand how battletech is TG. Where is this? I have seen books and now the comptuer game but where can I play this as a TG?

>>51702349
>I dont understand how battletech is TG.
BattleTech is primarily a tabletop wargame and always has been.

>where can I play this as a TG?
Anywhere you can play a wargame, you can play BattleTech (I recommend a house with a nice large table). Just have friends who play or a local community to join and you're good to go.

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>>51702349
it's a wargame

then, they published some novels, let microsoft make some mechwarrior games, and at one point in the ninties there was a short lived animated tv show

but yes, it was originally a boardgame and evolved into a tabletop wargame

>>51690761
that is the best looking lobo holy shit senpai

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So what are some of the better variants of the Quick Draw and do any of them address the problems it has?

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>>51700158
Well, by Atlas Junior, I meant this. Up the SRM-4 to 6, the LRM-10 to 20, and add adequate cooling. It can fire all of it's close in guns without overheating, and all it's missing from the Atlas is the rear defense guns.

>>51703016
what's wrong with the quickdraw?

>>51703097
Rear defense guns on a fast heavy, and underwhelming firepower and armor.

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What is the best low BV mech and why is it the Hussar?

Other than the Highlander, what other IS assault mechs have jump jets in the 3026-3049 era?

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>>51703460
Victor

>>51703460

Shogun, Marauder II, Crockett/Katana, Victor, Charger-3K (barely, it comes out in 3049).

There are some others like the Emperor which might squeak into that era but we don't have updated production data for those.

>>51703551
Emperors shouldn't go into production until 3058. It was a big Xen Sheng plot point that Sun Tzu had a brand new one in Double Blind, symbolizing the resurgence of the Capellan Confederation.

But then Scotty McScottsman having a brand new Highlander in 3058 in the Highlander Gambit and nobody knowing what the hell it was since it had been extinct outside Comstar for centuries was also a plot point at one time. Fuck everything 3039.

>>51703341
That thing has always been so ridiculous in appearance and performance. I don't think I have ever used it once.

Could I get a Crusader variant to match the SRM Archer?

>>51694372
>And damn it, I still can't tell who Khan Ulric reminds me of.
I always thought he was based on Jürgen Prochnow.

>>51703460
>>51703491

are Highlanders and Victors good in TT?

>>51704711

The Crusader already has an LRM-15 and SRM-6 pairing in the basic model so it's kinda already there.

>>51705346

Highlander is always great.

Victor is good for 3025 then gets lumbered with shit variants until the FCCW era.

>>51689476
the atb rules is 3.21 now
and the megamek version you posted is an older one

>>51705602
>the atb rules is 3.21 now
>and the megamek version you posted is an older one
Can you give me the newest links? I will update the pastebin and such for the next thread.

>>51705717

Can't be pissed to look up Megamek on Google and get your own goddamn links. Fucking lazy shitstain you are.

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>>51705777
I meant which link in the OP, dammit. Is it the sourceforge one that needs updating?

>>51705808

Still a lazy shitstain. In the time you grabbed the pic and replied to me shitting on you, you could have figured it all out yourself, copy and pasted what you needed and have it all fixed. Learn to goddamn do things for yourself without asking for shit like the lazy shitstain you are.

>>51705879
I'm at work, you abusive nobody. Stop having a moral superiority complex just because you live at home with your mother and have an abundance of free time and pretend you're not anencephalic.

>>51705808
megame is not on sourceforge anymore, the whole suit moved to github
https://github.com/MegaMek


3.21.xls is included in the mekhq package. You can write this instead of a link (there is a link around as well though).

Let me know if there is anything else you need.

>>51706164
Bless you. I should get off of work by the time the next thread is ready to go. Thank you.

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>>51698538
Dunno if these are worth adding there when they're in such a rough shape.

>>51699181
>you're pretty much guaranteed work at CGL.
Aka, a job where the pay is never worth it, so you better enjoy it

From what I've heard, actually getting paid is the bigger question. Is this still the case? I've worked with enough double-crossing commissioners and companies to be wary of those with a questionable reputation.

>>51697084
Here's my take on the Cobra.

>>51706317
Ho crap, you made the ugly ass Cobra workable for me. I like that very much.

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I have a bunch of random questions:
How good a Griffin C would be?
Rifleman with DHS and arm weapons swapped for Blazers, Yes/No?
If the Panther and Grand Dragon were mediums (40 and 55 tons respectively) would they improve?

>>51706382
Off the top of my head, I can say if you stripped out a Whitworth you get 15 tons for the weapons and ammo it has, which is 2 more than the PPC, SRM + ammo and extra HSs on the standard Panther. I think the armor is a little better at 8 tons as well.

>>51706382
>How good a Griffin C would be?
Depends on how you did it. If you just straight swapped for Clan equivalents the ERPPC would give it even worse heat issues, but if you follow the example of the Marauder C and Warhammer C and swap the PPC for a Clan LPL, you get the same heat and damage with better range and accuracy, which is pure gain.

>Rifleman with DHS and arm weapons swapped for Blazers, Yes/No?
Yes, because I love blazers.

>If the Panther and Grand Dragon were mediums (40 and 55 tons respectively) would they improve?
Panther yes, at its speed it can get substantially heavier and only be better.
Grand Dragon, no. While many call it over engined, and it may be faster than it needs to b given how it's armed, technically speaking it is at the optimum weight for its movement profile. Unless you want to give it jump jets, it gains nothing by going to 55 tons.

>>51701174
>>51701256
interesting

>>51705460
Does the Victor ever get good again?

>>51702962
What kind of infantry are those?

>>51706317
If you want a commission paid on time, just work for Muninn. More fun than CGL too.

>>51703649
>Highlander Gambit
In all fairness that was an awful book. Like almost any involving the Northwind Highlanders.

>>51706540
also for the same weight of the IS LRM10 you can get a clan LRM20 with no min range

>>51706693
I never understood how the northwind highlanders actually got their reputation as elite mercs, since literally all they've ever done is sit out wars on "MY HOME PLANET" and make revolver ocelot look reliable and loyal

>>51706840
It's kind of the Scottish fetish of BT.

>>51706774
True, but old school Cs don't tend to do that so if going with that style it would just use a CLRM 10 and be that much more underweight. No minimum range is still good though.

One thing the old Cs did do was often replace standard SRMs with streaks, so if doing a more contemporary era Griffin C a Streak LRM 10 could be used, since SLRMs weigh the same as the standard IS ones. Though an old style C mech in Jihad+ times seem kind of odd.

>>51706888
maybe we could go the SLDF royal Griffin way and give it twin clan SRMs instead of LRMs?

can someone tell me how intercompatible Clan and IS technology is roughly after ClanInvasion and FedCom war?

can you strap clan/IS weapons in the other sides mechs with small problems or are they that incompatible that its absolutely impossible

>>51706622

It got a shit upgrade in 3050 because it was being built by the Dracs and Cappies. Once the FedSuns and post Xin Shen Capellans start making variants it gets much better.

>>51706840

Well, they did put up with the Capellans going "Yeah dude, we'll totally honour our side of the contract by recapturing Northwind really really soon now."

>>51707202

Fully interchangable, at least theoretically and rules-wise. In practice IS technicians struggle to maintain Clan gear not just because the replacement parts are harder to come by but because it is more complex, especially if it's been strapped into an IS machine.

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>>51706955
>maybe we could go the SLDF royal Griffin way

FUND IT!

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>>51706678
GHQ Models.

Same scale as battletech, and they're fairly priced too.

http://www.ghqmodels.com/store/ghq-military-models.html

I want to grab some for infantry and vehicles one day, since just recently having gotten into the game I only have the starter set and some books.


Found out about this from the Oldenhammer blog

http://www.oldenhammer. com/2016/10/painted-battletech-infantry-and-ground.html

>>51707367
>Well, they did put up with the Capellans going "Yeah dude, we'll totally honour our side of the contract by recapturing Northwind really really soon now."

After a couple centuries and literally recruiting Capellans in their regiments you'd think that point would fade. Plus getting paid.

In a way you can tell the Northwinders really became Capellans: they pined for a world that was as theirs as Chesterton is Capellan.

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>purple bird is now the symbol of the alt-right
FWLers explain yourselves

>>51703649

How would they not know what it is when it's been in the Sphere for centuries and didn't go extinct?

>>51707737
According to the media, anything used for five minutes by anyone who was ever the hairdresser to someone in /pol is now a "symbol of the alt-right". White milk is now a goddamn nationalist symbol apparently, instead of something you put on mini-wheats.

>>51706317
Just add them anyway. Some of the work there doesn't come close to this level. The more important part is that they're preserved somewhere, because the archives tend not to save images for too long.

>>51707762
Wow. This reminds me of the data dumps about TGWTG on /tv/ that pops up from time to time. Neat.

So.

What about 3d printing? Is that viable? Is it likely we can all pitch in and make 3d models of most the mechs in the game? Couple of guys send photos of their mechs, couple other remake them as 3d models in som modeling program, a few transfer it into a 3d printer, and boom! We as a community have limitless mechs of whatever mech we want.

Like /k/'s patch thread, but with more plastic.

>>51708080
>Is that viable?

Depending on the quality and size of models.
If you're looking to match Battletech miniature QUALITY, it's definitely a very appealing option.

You still need a decent printer so just a random contraption from /diy/ won't do. And then there's shipping the stuff out without it being destroyed in the process.

>>51708133
Good point. The size and quality of the models wouldn't be an issue really, but if Im not mistaken 3d printed things tend to be somewhat fragile, are they not?

Out of curiosity im looking at cheap but good printers right now. Anyones that you've heard of?

I bring this topic up because Im teaching myself blender, and I figured that this has got to be easier, more time effecient, and cheaper than recasting the minis.

>>51707878
now the obama video trying to dunk cookies in the milk makes sense.
he's trying to dillute the white supremacists, but the cookie aka the liberals aren't strong enough

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>>51708297
heh

>>51708189
>Anyones that you've heard of?

Can't help you there. I have but a passing interest in these things.
Real printers are an investment that pays for itself over time. Though I suppose you could try your luck asking on /diy/. Lads there are helpful and should be able to give some basic pointers.

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Do the Spirit (or Nova) Cats have any warships, mobile factories or any serious hardware left? Any mech or battle armor factories at all?

>>51708080
That would require rapid 3d prototyping 3D printers, which cost upwards of $20k. You can contract out a company which owns a device for prototyping, likely to the tune of $100. Mind, this is for current tabletop scale.
If you want to go larger, look at Hyper RPG's 'Death From Above' show, where they use 3D printed mechs about 6" to 12" tall. I assume they use a standard non-commercial printer, and you can see the print lines in some places. w

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>>51707762
>CGL won't let IWM produce all of the newseen at once because they want to give Dave the Toymaker time to make more money for the family

kek

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>>51708189
>I bring this topic up because Im teaching myself blender, and I figured that this has got to be easier, more time effecient, and cheaper than recasting the minis.

Seriously? How cheap are you planning to go that printer, m8?

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>>51706317
Fixed version. Arms were a bit too big on that previous version and it bothered the hell out of me.

>>51708641

Nova Cats are gone completely.

Spirit Cats probably don't have anything bigger than a DS for space combat.

>>51708680
They use Shapeways and the 'Mechs cost them Around $200 asuming they arn't jacking up the cost of the fan funded 'Mechs of the week too much.

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What Successor State capital likely has the best restaurants?

>>51709542
my arteries clogged just by looking at that

>>51709542
I am still not sure if this was intentional or just a meme

>>51709542

Why wouldn't you just have a frito pie?

>>51709632
>>51709642
Never underestimate Mexicans and junk food.

>>51709542
Probably Tharkad. It isn't a capital, but I'd figure Solaris and Galatea would probably be the best overall

>>51706693
Exactly. The best scene in the whole book was probably the enemy commander in his Star League Era Warhammer having the machine recognize the Highlander with its ancient warbook but all the other members of his unit come up unknown since they were using modern ones.

>>51707773
Because it wasn't and it did. All the TRO 2750 mechs were. That's why TRO 3025R was such a massive retcon and TRO 3039 as well.

>>51703097
base variant literally has a better alpha strike in its rear arc than its front

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>>51709019
Did Alex ever animate anything?
I wonder just how much he'd change up his style if he started to think less like a plain DeviantArt illustartor and more like someone who actually has to think how these things move.

>>51707762
>>51707934
>>51708690

There is, actually, another option about why that's happening. The simplest reading of it dovetails somewhat into #3, but it doesn't necessarily have to.

IWM has the license for BT minis in perpetuity. CGL will never get significant money from the sales of "BattleTech" miniatures again as the license - it's it's perpetual - can't be renegotiated (the AS minis boxes are not "BattleTech" minis and thus fall outside the license). But by looking the other way while Dave sells repros and builds up a cash base, and by then accepting occasional family-to-family gifts and/or minor purchases (Dave: "I'll give you this $4,000 I have lying around in exchange for that BattleMech sketch"), Catalyst gets a minis-based additional revenue stream which is a completely deniable asset.

......

With all that said, I'm mildly tempted to drive out early for hockey on Friday, stop at IWM (it's a 1/2-mile from my rink), and have a printed-out copy of >>51707762 with me to hand to Mike Noe.

Has anyone got the 40.1 version of MekHQ handy? (or are they in the pastebin)
MM0.42 is giving me nothing but trouble and I can't find the HQ app for the earlier version.

>>51709848

>IWM has the license for BT minis in perpetuity. CGL will never get significant money from the sales of "BattleTech" miniatures again as the license - it's it's perpetual - can't be renegotiated (the AS minis boxes are not "BattleTech" minis and thus fall outside the license). But by looking the other way while Dave sells repros and builds up a cash base, and by then accepting occasional family-to-family gifts and/or minor purchases (Dave: "I'll give you this $4,000 I have lying around in exchange for that BattleMech sketch"), Catalyst gets a minis-based additional revenue stream which is a completely deniable asset.

You know. I actually wouldn't be mad about that. IF they were being sold as reproductions, and/or the quality was there. Neither of those checkboxes are marked, so if that's the case, count me mad as hell.

>With all that said, I'm mildly tempted to drive out early for hockey on Friday, stop at IWM (it's a 1/2-mile from my rink), and have a printed-out copy of >>51707762 (You) with me to hand to Mike Noe.

It'd be interesting to hear Mikes take on the whole thing. I'm getting the impression that the familial link was kept under the rug fairly well(which is surprising given how poorly they hid it).

>>51709848
we must answer the essential question: does mike noe?

>>51710055
>You know. I actually wouldn't be mad about that. IF they were being sold as reproductions, and/or the quality was there. Neither of those checkboxes are marked, so if that's the case, count me mad as hell.
Same here. If he were to be straight about it, and offering legitimate prices for the stuff, I honestly bet he'd be moving 3-4x as much product.
Like, I'd be happy to buy mediocre unseen recasts for 5-7 bucks each, and so would a lot of other people. There'd be more orders than the guy could keep up with
But no, he's gotta screw people over
>>51709848
>With all that said, I'm mildly tempted to drive out early for hockey on Friday, stop at IWM (it's a 1/2-mile from my rink), and have a printed-out copy of >>51707762 # with me to hand to Mike Noe.
I gotta ask: do you really want to put your name on more CGL bullshit drama? It might be better to let someone else, someone anonymous handle it

>>51710174
Fuck that shit. If CGL are going to openly flaunt their violation of their license agreement with IWM, let them rake CGL over the coals. Might shake enough shit up to get things to change, whether that's reforms at CGL or the IP sold to someone more reputable.

>>51709811
Alex' designs do incorporate a bit of movement design.

However, both him and I probably have come to the same conclusion about giant futuristic bipedal warmachines: just how in the FUCK is this thing supposed to work?

Some of the mechanical parts that Alex designs do however get lost in translation from concept to 3D model though, since it's 2 or 3 different guys doing the mech modelling and each of them have their own tastes and styles.

I mainly try to make the moving components big enough to have enough room for almost complete freedom of movement, and have space in them to grant viewers the illusion of the ammo feeds, heatsinks, myomer and skeletal structure being embedded in there.

More often than not, the mechanical elements I add to the mech do not make all that much sense when I review them afterwards, such as the the hydraulic rods on the feet of the Cobra doodle. They would be within the armour plating by all sensible measures, yet I added them to both give the feet that extra bit of complex mechanical instrument feel as well as make em look cooler.

>>51710256
I'd be happy with Topps dropping in and demanding an outside manager of the IP, just to keep shit like this on the level.

>>51710174
>I gotta ask: do you really want to put your name on more CGL bullshit drama? It might be better to let someone else, someone anonymous handle it

I say do it. Fear not the retribution of the unethical.

>>51710256
>>51710256
Oh, I agree, I'm just suggesting that the guy with the known RL identity tied to him might want not to get involved in another CGL mess

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Anyone know how reliable Col. Hengist is?

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>>51710335
>just how in the FUCK is this thing supposed to work?

Well, Gunplas of everything work with more than enough decency and so do the shows tend to animate these designs actually working.

It's just a personal pet peeve of mine seeing how much breaking has to be done to give any movement of the models for the new Battletech game. It ends up being a bit of a rodeo where some designs like the Orion could work very well with some 2D trickery to hide stuff (viz. sirdubdub's work) while others fail even with the intricate ball joints at the most basic of movements.

>>51703649
There's a lot of timeline confusion. Lethal Heritage has Phlan Ward getting a fuck of a lot of tech he should be familiar with explained to him in 3049.

>>51710707
[OBARI INTENSIFIES]

>>51710536
>>51709848

If he decides not to, I'll send the file to IWM via e-mail. A hand delivery(especially by someone Mike knows) would be preferable, but e-mail is better than nothing.

>>51710729
That's not timeline confusion. It's a series of retcons that happened in the "no unseen" period of a couple years at the end of Fanpro and the very beginning of Catalyst about ten years ago.

Everything was in order before that.

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>>51694238
There's also this Jamie Wolf from Chaos March.

>>51710770

Go ahead with that. I got the date/time for the game wrong, and the rest of my schedule I won't be up there again while IWM is actually open until mid-March.

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>>51710751
Nah, Obari does everything from a downward angle, legs only slightly apart.

>>51710978
Speaking more of the proportions than the shot itself.

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>>51710906
You got it familia

So if you're not playing double blind, what exactly is the point of light mechs? They seem like they're too expensive for the capabilities they provide.

>>51711055
you tell me that a wolfhound is too expensive for the capability that it provides with a straight face and I'll... actually I won't do anything but discard the opinion

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>>51710995
The proportions stick relatively close to the MW:O original with maybe a tiny bit wider legs.
Obari does overemphasize the legs and arms compared to the torso but the Orion here is not really out of order in that regard.

>>51711055
The BV system overprices lights and underprices assaults, it's a known issue

>>51711153
Oh god I hadn't seen his Labors
This is kind of a mess

>>51711055
>So if you're not playing double blind, what exactly is the point of light mechs?

There isn't one. XL engines make medium Mechs into the new light Mechs, and light Mechs are completely and totally obsolete unless you're playing contrived "historical" scenarios which force you to take them.

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>>51711055

>>51702349
There' also the mechwarrior RPG/AToW.

>>51711244
>This is kind of a mess
Pretty much. The head just kills it but the super-swole redesign deserves a mention as well.

>>51711435
His Dragonar is fantastic, and better than the show's IMO
I like his take on Mazinger as well.

Any field refits I can do to a BJ-1 to make it better in 3025?

two AC/2's really suck. I'm sure those 12 (13) tons can be used better

>>51711055
Hairbrained Schemes's experimental initiative rules from the video game makes lights great again

>>51711560
You could refit it into the DB, which has two LLs, two MLs and 17 heat sinks.

>>51711560
Replace the AC/2's and a ML with an AC/10 ?

Might be good

>>51711595
Debatable. Now that Urbanmech is automatically faster than a Charger, for no real reason.

>>51711656
>30 ton mech more nimble than an 80 ton mech

speed =/= agility

>>51709036
Sad

>>51711560
Replace them with LLs and more sinks

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>>51711558
He's really good it's just sometimes he's trying to squeeze a square peg through a round hole by applying the same amazing style to something that has too much of an established identity.

>>51711560
Replace each with triple LRM-fives and use it like a smol catapult?

What's the Taurian Concordant like?

All Sarna says is they're fiercely independent

>>51711875
>>51711875
That would take a factory rework, you couldn't change laser/ballistic mounts to take lasers in the field

>>51711914
to take missiles*

fuck my brain

>>51711890

Before Jeffery Calderon was assassinated by Sun-Tzu Liao, they were a moderately insular somewhat backwards Periphery State with a great interest in colonization. After Jeffery they went nuts, attacked the Federated Suns, split the nation in twain and lost virtually all their recent colonies to defection or failure. So they suck. They suck badly.

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>>51711890
By canon? Paranoid lunatics who lurch from properly paranoid to "ELLIE MAE! GIT THE RIFLE! THE DAVION BROTHERS ARE A COMIN'!" I prefer to think of them as the Antebellum South, because that's a stereotype that isn't anywhere in the setting.

>>51711914
Source, your ass.

>>51711979
2 AC/2 and 1 ton of ammo is 3 crit slots

6 LRM-5 is six crit slots. It can't be done in the field.

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>>51693400

Pic related.

>>51712108
>your favorite Kurita mech is one that's about to get an SRM up its rear armor

I like your taste

>>51712055
Maint refits are still just mechbays.

>>51712055
"""""factory rework"""""

I would consider Maintenance class much closer to field than factory, considering a dropship bay is almost always nearby for a unit.

>>51711890
>>51711890
Originally? Civil-libertys cowboys with a paranoid fear of inner sphere invasion (think poland and the Baltics re: russia) and the only people interested in new colonies anymore. Highly-skilled, large military that was at odds with their 3025-55 leader' particular fear of the suns, to the point of a near-coup. Briefly got their One Smart Leader, but he was killed off for xin sheng reasons.

Later? Wildly idiotic and absurdy gullible nuke-flinging jabronis with a space-argentina junta obsessed with hating the suns. Had a civil war and a breakaway faction that kept the original characterization, along with the ruling family. Utterly fucked by the DA. This is also unfortunately the only time they got distinct and actually fun mechs

>>51711890
The original piece of art for them is a guy in a spacesuit having a space knifefight with a pirate on an asteroid.

That tells you most of what you need to know about them as a people right there.

>>51712181
>This is also unfortunately the only time they got distinct and actually fun mechs
cryingtoroandtalos.jpg

>>51712353
I mean, they're kinda extinct in about 90% of eras that people play on the tabletop.
But fair point, the toro is a fun little mech, and the talos is boring but solid. I was really just talking about 3025-3145, though.

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Randall Bills is apparently aware of attempts to link him to Dave the Toymaker. Instead of facing his familial link head-on like a man, he's scrambling to hide his links on FB.

Meanwhile, the randall internet defense force won't let a thing like evidence from making claims without evidence.

I really hoped CGL would handle this with some grace, but nooooo

>>51712436
>just talking about 3025-3145
>Ignoring best era
niggerwhat.webm

But funposting aside, I hear you. The TC doesn't get uniques again for a long time, despite having at least two pre-3025. Sort of a shame.

>>51712055
Can't be done in the field doesn't mean it has to be factory-level. It's just a Level D refit, which means you just need a dedicated maintenance facility, like a mechbay.

>>51712108
What's with the arm? SRM-2?

>>51712533
>What's with the arm? SRM-2?
That's two MW:O lasers.

>>51710607
Wasn't he Redjac on Star Trek?

>>51710729
We could explain it as Phelan being a poor student.

>>51711979
Shoot, that actually makes the Taurians pretty interesting.

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>>51708080
I print my own minis

They come out pretty well.

>>51712680
He'd have to be legit retarded to have to have double heat sinks, ER and pulse lasers and LBX auto-cannons explained to him in 3049, given he was in a Wolfhound when captured that should have had DHS and a ER laser.

>>51710776
Yeah, I figured as much. In Ye Olden Days there was a "Introtech only before clan invasion" thing.

>>51711979
>I prefer to think of them as the Antebellum South, because that's a stereotype that isn't anywhere in the setting
That is cool, but antebellum south really doesn't work without slavery. I like to play my marians kinda that way, though. A bunch of hillbillies playing at being southern gentlemen trying to act like Romans. It comes across pretty well in Mechwarrior campaigns, I've found

>>51712680
Phelan was the son of one of the most powerful mercenary leaders in the entire Inner Sphere, and was quite a tech junkie. He even comments on the the difference in basic manufacturing stuff when he's on the Dire Wolf and builds his own lockpick out of scrap.

>>51712874
Can you print minis in a solid color for more detail?

>>51712892
>really doesn't work without slavery.

That's what captured Davions are for. Raids on FedSuns space are a lot like sailing to Africa for more commodities.

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>>51712910

>>51712881
>Ye Olden Days
You can't really call anything that happened after the Dark Age began as "olden days". It's a relatively modern decision that's just kept on fucking up the perceptions of every bit of new blood that's come in since 2007.

>>51712902
Yes, but I paint them after anyway so it doesn't really matter what color I print them

>>51712892
>>51712911
What's actually really funny is that one of the founding groups in the TC were a bunch of slaves rescued from the FedSuns

>>51712911
The Outback is just a bunch of even more militant cowboys. They're really not that different.

>>51712978
>They're really not that different.
Probably because like half the outback worlds were part of the TC in the past.
They're functionally just illiterate taurians who speak french instead of spanish as a second language

>>51713004
>They're functionally just illiterate taurians who speak french instead of spanish as a second language
So cajuns instead of texans?

>>51713004
>Less than 200 years under Taurian Rule
>600 years under Fedsuns rule

I'd call them more classic Fedsuns than anything. You go back that far and you're into the protstate era anyway. Especially when you consider how the jihad fights went, I don't think you'd find a single soul on places like Bromhead or Broken Wheel that would admit to sharing any culture with the Taurians.

>>51713050
Cajuns do both. Remember Louisiana was Spanish before it was French.

>>51712892
>That is cool, but antebellum south really doesn't work without slavery.
I'd argue it does, since you're looking for the cultural trappings, not the other stuff. Having lived in the South most of my life, I've lived where people quite plainly separate the two.

>>51712930
I was talking about in 1989 when Lethal Hertage came out. The idea was that in 3049 the Inner Sphere was pretty much introtech/ level 1 only, other then a few examples of lostech.

25 years of retcons now say that by '49 most level 2 tech was available in the inner sphere.

>>51713106
>25 years of retcons now say that by '49 most level 2 tech was available in the inner sphere.

Except those retcons didn't happen until the mid 2000's. 1989 up through that time didn't have any retcons on the tech level. The only thing you got was a couple sidestories of prototypes and nothing in production.

>>51713079
I would assume the culture wouldn't change much simply because of how thoroughly the suns ignored the area. They wouldn't think of themselves as taurians, but they'd probably act a lot like the ones over the border.

>>51712479
I know that John fellow. He's not very fucking bright.

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>>51712902
Found a closeup pic.

This Cataphract is 60mm tall for reference

>>51713093
This. OId South is about tradition. Even all the huge arguments just prior to the civil war centered around southern whigs touting old southern tradition, honor and chivalry as defense.

>>51713188
I was thinking that he was just... very loyal, to the point of selectively excluding arguments and evidence.

>>51713230
Okay that is kind of nice. Am I seeing this right, but the detail is kind of far above old Ral Partha sculpts?

>>51713280
Not really. Just look at a second sculpt archer or something. What it gets right is proportions, which a number of later models flubbed.