Is it itself an evil action to use a Helm of Opposite Alignment

>>51666674

I don't see how it's much different than a Paladin executing someone the moment Smite Evil pings.

Alignments are bullshit
D&D is gay
Play something else

>>51666694

>Smite Evil

I mean Detect Evil. fuck my life

>>51666674

Nope. Alignments are fucking terrible mind you.

Mind Control is considered to be Lawful, and is only Good or Evil depending on how it is used - you can be Good and use Dominate Person to make someone kill their family, as long as their family is evil.

So using the HoOA to mass-convert evil is a Good thing. It might not last past their death though, in which case their soul will still be rendered down to make a demon, instead of an angel.

This is all in the Book of Exalted Deeds. Which is a horrible book written by members of one of those weird American Christian cults, but pretty much correct for how little the rest of the game cares about Enchanters mindfucking enemies.

>>51666674
It is absolutly an evil act the book of vile darkness makes this very clear (the book of exalted deeds has no problem with magical alignment changes but there is enough retardation in that book that almost everybody ignores everything it has to say on morality the guy who wrote it had no fucking idea how good and evil work in d&d)

>>51667875
its still hilarious the BoVD ended up being the sane one of the 2

>>51666674
>evil to force your will on others
no but it's rude.
>evil to force people to inflict harm on others
that's evil

It is an evil (lower case e) thing, as in morally repugnant action, but in terms of alignment a Good action.
Good and Evil are somewhat removed from good and evil, Good and Evil are first and foremost opposing powers, fighting one is considered the opposite, murder and genocide of Evil creatures is Good, but not necessarily good, and kindness and mercy shown to those same Evil races may be the moral, and right thing to do, but would be considered Evil by the alignment system.

>>51668059
Are you autistic

Sinful.

>>51668059
What's the point of calling them Good and Evil if they're not good and evil, respectively? It'd seem more useful to call them something else.

>>51668334
>>51668525
I don't think he was suggesting that it was morale.
DnD alignments work that way RAW, so he is technically correct.

>>51666674
Alignment is a shit system that's doesn't add anything to the game except stupid arguments.

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>>51666674
No. Converting people to Good is a Lawful Good act.
Incidentally, executing prisoners is also Lawful Good.

Converting prisoners to Good before executing them is kosher.

>>51666674
Answer me this: how do you feel about an evil person using a Helm of Opposite Alignment to forcefully convert good characters and NPCs to the side of evil?

>>51667945
Kinda like Satanism vs. Christianity in real life, oddly enough.

>>51669343

DnD morality: retarded as fuck from Day 0.

>All these Neutral shitbags trying to justify their sins by talking shit about Good

That's just sad, guys.

>>51666694
I would rule detecting evil is not enough to merit execution. BUT that also just leads to fundamental problems with the alignment system.