Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>51649746
>Amaterasu trying to eat the pizza
Its been six years since the game came out but no other fanart has rivaled that one pic in comfiness.

>>51649820
Blood Money and Simulacrum are on an entirely different level of broken, along with Planar Binding.Iff long range teleportation destroys your ability to GM then you're a garbage GM, plain and simple.

What are some useful crafts and professions one should pick?

>>51649857
Sure it is. Sure it is. People said the same thing about Greater Teleport and then everyone started saying it and look where we are now.

>>51649869
Dildo testing

>>51649869
The ones that let you make magic armor and wondrous items.

No seriously. Unless you're crafting to break WBL then your choice of profession is entirely based on your character and shouldn't depend on usefulness.

>>51649869
So Professions are generally pretty weak.

The most common to come up however are the following:
>Driver
>Soldier
>Sailor
>Barrister

For craft you get the most mileage out of:
>Alchemy
>Armor
>Weapons
>Clothing
>Jewelry
>Sculpture

>>51649869
"Courtesan"
Make of it what you will

>>51649746

Why is Amaterasu so gosh darn CUTE?

>>51649937

Because she's a big, fluffy pupper. Who just so happens to wield godly power.

Is there any item or ability that prevents a person's body from being raised BEFORE they die?

So not like sanctify corpse.

Basically I'm a spy, and if I don't report back for a while, my bosses cast resurrection on a body part I left back at base. I can't be undead, though, and guaranteeing my body is scrambled is very difficult.

>>51649984
If you remove a body part before death it can't be used for resurrection anyway.

>>51649869
Glassmaking

>>51650000
It's been cleared by the GM for thematic purposes.

That's not what I'm asking.

>>51649963
>"Oh great kami, what is the meaning of life? Why have we been placed upon this earth?"
>"woof"

>>51649746
I'm like 98% certain that's someone's UMVC3 team they drew art of.

Also I love it.

It's a great team comp too.

>>51650039

At least she answers.

>>51649984
How could you be raised if you're not dead?

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Only 24 hours until Sky Pirates turns out to be yet another flop!

>>51650069

Ammy's a lazy doggo, she's not a fan of questions!

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>>51650133
Speaking of completely unrelated tangents, which nations on Golarion would be the most likely to build and use airships?

>>51649895
You can get a lot of milage out of Butler or Cook

>>51650133
Who has the best pirates app? Who are the most fun characters? The most memeable?

>>51650004

>Glassmaking

That's a curious choice.

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>>51650174
So you can make those rad weed pipes with the colours inside them! Yeah boi 420 blaze it!

>>51650165
Wasn't there an app for Molthune Knights that was an air ship captain or something?

>>51650133
>still wondering if I should bother making a last minute application

>>51650174
You know what glassmakers are good at? Blowing.

>>51650165
I don't know of any countries that canonically have access to that kind of tech, but if we're talking most likely I'd say: Cheliax, Taldor, Andoran, Molthune and/or Alkenstar.

>>51650245
>Cheliax, Taldor, Andoran, Molthune and/or Alkenstar
Describe each of their airships /pfg/

>>51650174
Shattered Mirror

>>51650219
Well on account of no one in there having their character sheets, I say go for it.

Which SoP classes see actual play? Elementalists seem to be popular, while armorists just get complained about, and I don't think anyone has ever played an eliciter, ever.

>>51650294
They're honestly so lacking in actual class features that making one basically boils down to "dip Incanter, choose the caster you acutlaly want and go to town".

>>51650254
>Cheliax
Powered by a cruel mix of bound elementals and slave labor.
>Taldor
Large and slow, but can move an entire batallion at once.
>Andoran
Golden eagle figurehead and can probably launch small glider aircraft.
>Molthune
Small and silent, but armed to the teeth.
>Alkenstar
Gunwales bristling with bombards. They might not be as big as Taldan airships, but they're the only ones that can demolish a citadel with a thunderous rain of lead.

>>51650171
>Who has the best pirates app? Who are the most fun characters? The most memeable?

How about this, but for the assassins game?

>>51650339
How about this, but for the Hot Slave Harem game?

Gonna be running an SoM playtest game today, we got a striker, armiger, and paragon on deck for it which seems like it's gonna be a lot of fun.

>>51650339
In both games DHB has one of the strongest apps.

Isn't that sad?

>>51650294
Most just seem super underwhelming since all your fun stuff comes from what spheres you pick, they may as well be the actual classes.

That being said I'm playing an Elementalist\Hedge-witch thing and I know someone who abused the shit out of Lifeweaver to make an ubernecromancer.

I've been in a party with a Shifter and I'm in a party with another one right now. Maybe this one won't end up with the capacity to end the fucking world because permanency is some bullshit. Useful bullshit, but some bullshit.

>>51650407
DHB, please just fuck this guy already.

He's so desperate for your dick, it's painful to watch. Just pity fuck him for the rest of us.

>>51650429
DHB goes silent every time this guy shows up. I think he learned his lesson not to heckle back when the one and only time he did /pfg/ descended into a 3 thread long shit posting blood orgy.

>>51650245
Numeria would do it easy as well, as long as you don't mind replacing the giant balloon with antigrav units.

>>51650378
I am interested in hearing how that turns out. All the classes you listed interest me greatly.

Its a shame about the Sage, though its new rewrite is making me hopeful again.

>>51650378
There shall be midget-tossing, punchgirling, and HEROICS.

>>51650339
i was writing a big thing of my thoughts on each character before i realized there's like 30 apps and plenty of them don't even fit the game's chargen criteria. others are just ERP vehicles, like this painfully typical drow that also worships calistria for reasons we are all aware of. then there's the outright trolls like "Brick Simpson".

Another question, this one regarding something I had asked a few days ago (for people who don't hover over /pfg/ like me, here's a brief synopsis: playing a half giant pathwalker, focuses on primal fury, sleeping goddess, and using natural attacks, dsp and 1pp allowed but the GM probably will not approve any more 3pp). Is Deep focus worth setting a feat on fire for Psionic Body? The amount of HP it gives seems kind of scrubby even considering all the psionic feats I'll be taking, but I will be blowing and regaining my focus a lot (I already have psionic meditatiion and Sleeping Goddess style planned in my build, and pretty much every feat after level 9 or so is open at this point.)

When is it the most efficient moment to use Power Attack?

>>51650682
Who don't follow the chargen criteria?

Who would you say is a "decent" app? Like who out of the bunch aren't garbage.

>>51650114
Raised as an undead, sorry.

>>51650712

When you have a ton of accuracy and want to do more damage.

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>>51650553
I plan on doing a write up for it; I've made SoM enemies mixed in with other enemies for them to face as well.

>>51650712
All the time

>>51650254
>>51650321
Okay let's do this:

>Cheliax 1d6
1. Flies by means of a portal to hell across the keel which discharges hellfire towards the ground at speed
2. Flies by cursing the air around it; upon approach save vs. random curse spell
3. Fighter wing of strafing devil-witches on broomsticks
3. No sails - in their place racks of crucified slaves whose life energy powers the ship
4. Ship more of a fortress chained to the backs of two enormous winged demons
5. Everything on the ship is possessed. Everything. The crew, the captain, the barrels, the wheel. Everything. Even the biscuits are possessed. Has two huge possessed metal devil horns which rend other ships.
6. Spill blood on the ship and be confronted by visions of your own sins and the hellish fate awaiting you until you jump off the side.

>Taldor 1d6
1. Bomb bay holds pack of lions enchanted to levitate
2. Has a huge fortified gangplank that it slides onto your ship and then a full wing of actual armored knights on horseback charges down it
3. Prow of the ship is a giant ship-sized lance
4. Figurehead is the gilded bones of an long-dead Taldean king
5. Everyone on the ship is a titled noble, everyone believes they should actually be in charge of the ship by hereditary right.
6. Ship has long since run out of proper ammunition; now fights by flinging bits of gloriously ornate ancient Taldean architecture at foes

>Andoran 1d6
1. Ship is enormous mechanical eagle
2. Ship is enormous actual eagle with platform lashed to its back
3. Ship not an eagle but has huge bronze eagle wings to crush other ships with
4. Ship holds an election for each and every command position before each engagement
5. Ship has a mis-allocated contigent of Gillmen marines with big bubble helmets filled with water
6. Eagle eagle eagle eagle IDK bored now fantasy America is surprisingly boring

>>51650765

How much is a ton of a accuracy?

>>51650712
If you're full BAB you should never not power attack/deadly aim.
I really doubt there are exceptions to this rule.


>>51650079
Just toss the shit that is the "skill challenge" system out a window and make sure you're using the Inherent Bonuses system to avoid cheesy specific-item builds; 4e can be pretty great.

>>51650807
If something is "almost dead" (and maybe there's a Slayer present who literally knows its hit points), then you want to just hit and don't care how badly you overkill it.

>>51650807
What if your 3/4ths

>>51650824
Get out of the way and cast a damn spell bitchboy

>>51650837
What if I'm not a spell caster

>>51650807
>Just toss the shit that is the "skill challenge" system
Not having played 4e, what is a "skill challenge" system?

>>51650721
real quickly, one side of the gestalt is supposed to be "Assassin-ish themed class" and these outright don't fit the bill:

>Sugara Higa, Ranger/Fighter (!??!?!)
>Thryssa Sylyssar, Monk/Inquisitor
>Valra "Silkworm" Koprin, Inquisitor/Kineticist
>Alexis Grivorly, Bolt Ace/Fighter
>Charon Blackblood, Antipaladin/Bard

then you've got a huge list of alchemists and i suppose that's the gm's purview as to how that fits, but I really don't consider it to be an "Assassin-ish" class. especially when 3 of the alchemists are just Alch/Barb to cash in on strength boosts.

What levels do you use as "bench marks" to see how a build functions. I normally count the big "build should be relatively functional" levels as every 4.

I use level 12 normally as my "this is a build's endgame in a normal campaign", and say if a build does not come together by level 12 you're pretty doomed. Even by level 8 if most of the moving parts in your build aren't present something is wrong.

I normally say level 4 is when a build first comes together. Below that level you don't have enough options to really be called a build.

Level 16 is most for high end adventures and generally if you level to 16 your build has likely changed.

20 I only really consider for one shots. However I consider it for the whole finality of a build at level 20.

What do you guys use as your bench mark levels? I have also heard 1, 3, 7, 13 as bench marks.

>>51650883

Only level 1-6 matter as no game lasts beyond that point

>>51650854
Okay, you walk up to a guard, you have no permit or invitation but you REALLY need to speak with the Baron.

In 4e's Skill Challenge system, this becomes a whole shitty ordeal. Roll and pass no more than three individual Diplomacy checks, maybe toss some Bluff in there, oh and roll a History so you know what this baron likes and blah fucking blah, pass X of Y checks and you get to not fail horribly.

>>51650856
>then you've got a huge list of alchemists and i suppose that's the gm's purview as to how that fits
They're literally the poison and drug class. They do rogue better than rogue. Alchemists make perfectly fine assassins.

Same goes for Inquisitors.

Bolt ace is a stretch, but I can see it. Same for Bard depending on archetype and play style.

>>51650893
t. faggot who can't keep a group together

>>51650856
Alchemists are easily the best poisoner in the game, it's just that being the best at something shitty doesn't help much.

>>51650883
Usually whatever level my current IRL game is at.

But most of the time, like 3-4 for when the build's main schtick should come online, around 7-10 for its peak or longest plateau of power, and then maybe 13 for the endgame. Past that I usually just assume I'll be picking up save- or initiative-boosting feats and talents and so forth.

>>51650856
Ranger 'might' count as assassin-ish depending on the archetype.

>>51650893
We've had this discussion like 3 times. Each time someone says this multiple people tell you that you're wrong.

Heck both games I am in right now are above level 6. One is level 9, the other is level 15. Things still exist even if you don't like them. Heck, if your games always fall apart that quickly maybe it is you that is the problem. If everywhere you go it smells like shit, maybe it's time to check your own shoes.

>>51650847
Then I think you got doublefucked. Aren't Rogue and stalker Vigilante the only ones left after Monk got bumped-up? Neither are Power Attackers. Don't take Power Attack on those.

>>51650929

I've been DMing a game for 10 years. Everyone's still level 4

>>51650952
Why the fuck would you subject people to that?

This reminds me of the guy who took 83 sessions to finish book 2 of Reign of Winter and acted like it was something to be proud of.

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>>51650935
By a wide margin, poison conversion + inhaled poisons is the best poisoner in the game by far.

>>51650797
Average AC+Power Attack Penalty-5

>>51650952
What the fuck. Why. That's not a good reason for your assertion, if anything you've just shot any argument you had in both knees and feet.

>>51650952
>>51650952
How?

Like I agree with you games that get past level 10 are abnormal, but how?

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>>51650856
I'm pleased that I count in your eyes.

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>>51650952
Sweet merciful hell

>>51650893
>no game lasts to 20
>no game lasts to 16
>no game lasts to 12
>no game lasts to 10
>no game lasts to 6
>no game lasts to 4
>no game lasts to 2
When will you fags just give up? No game ever lasts to level 1, every Pathfinder game in history has been stillborn.

>>51650856
NOW GIVE UP YOUR TOP 10, let's see who makes the top 1/3.

>>51650856
How is Bard not an Assassin class? How is Inquisitor or Monk not? Are you retarded?

>>51651052
It's more like he went full ISIS on his argument.

>>51651087
No game that isn't an abortion starts at level 1.

>>51651099

Sarenrae is a religion of peace!

>>51650923
>>51650935
i do get that but so far none of them actually seem to be focusing on "Assassin-ish" aspects of Alchemist, and definitely not poisons.

>>51651080
i saw the GM give it the okay so I didn't include it. but i think your backstory is more shock than substance.

>>51650949
that's probably fair, though there's no archetype listed. i think of rangers as being fighters, not rogues.

>>51650856
>ranger can't be an assassin
>inquisitor can't be an assassin
>gunslinger can't be an assassin
>antipaladin can't be an assassin
Those are some shit opinions you've got there.

Of all the /pfg/ games currently playing or applying, who is the most eligible bachelor in them?The most eligible bachelorette?

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>>51651144
I agree. I think I drew out the backstory longer than it had to be, and it would have been better off short and concise. It feels like there's more shock than substance because I stretched out the horror moments longer than they needed to be.

As a simple backstory it's just fine. "Girl is born miswired and ends up getting involved in the wrong kind of sorcery" works out cleanly enough, I just pushed the 'shock' too much.

>>51651172
Rubio and Valeriya, from the two RotJRs.

>>51651172
Please stop farming roll20 drama in these threads.

>>51650788
>Alkenstar 1d6:
1: Has 1d4 semi-automated arms capable of aiding in grapples and boarding or repairs
2: Is composed of two turret-like halves around some sort of alchemical flotation system. The ship's two halves can rotate independently
3: Uses a rigid, armored flight envelope that encloses the ship proper. Extremely magic-resistant
4: No flight envelope; runs entirely as a massive gyro-quadcopter hooked to a colossal artillery long-gun
5: Is actually six 'huge' two-man propeller-driven gunship blimps around a main resupply/living-quarter core; They split off and attack with various weapons at multiple angles in battle
6: Completely automated clockwork monstrosity. If heavily damaged, it will attempt to ram and detonate with enough force to wipe a village out

>Numeria 1d6:
1: Self-sealing envelope. Very light airship, extremely fast, though speed changes due to wind direction are also doubled. Rubber coating renders it immune to sonic and electrical
2: One or Two-man grav-fighter. Huge sized, plasma-thruster flight, equipped with beam cannons and a support-AI. High level versions count as "construct armor worn" allowing even spellcasting and martial maneuvers by the pilot
3: Repurposed Jumpgate Generator. Acts as a technological "Teleport Without Error" with two charges, recovering 1 charge per 12h. Charge may also be spent to perform a full-attack as a Colossal Gravity Beam Cannon.
4: Escort Carrier: Has hangar for up to 10 huge robots or fighters, can launch(free move) any number as a move action. Heavily shielded, but only antipersonnel weaponry mounted
5: Aetherwave Transport Spurs: ALL magic, psionic and supernatural effects within 10ft of the ship may chose their origin point from anywhere within 50ft of the ship.
6: Nanotech Catastrophe: Entire vessel is actually a colossal swarm of fine organisms. May spew laser rifles at all targets or combine into single massive blasts. Only AoE vulnerable once force field down. Consumes matter

>>51651098
>>51651162
>my opinions
i'm basing this off the game's posted chargen rules, boys.

>>51650893
The farthest my group ever got was starting at Level 1 and finishing at Level 10 (the DM got tangled in his own plot, lost focus and didn't know how to meaningfully continue the campaign after accidentally wiping half the party by completely underestimating an encounter we couldn't run from - Purple Worm against 3 underequipped characters...)

>>51651172
If I had to build a team for each?

>Fookin' Sky Pirates
Vera Vonizen
Haelin
Alexander Julio Antonio Ricardo Fernandez Carriedo
Morg "Bubbles" Benson
Mary Oswald, or known as Betty the Bomber
Kiramaru Bloodbeard

>Assassins
Ormizd
Arden Croft
Akorian & Toad
'Thimble'
Viviane Blanchet

>>51651281
We get it you like DHB.

>>51651103
I started my players at level one, and got them to 32nd level over the course of 15 years.

You are clearly mistaken on several counts.

>>51649746

Hard to say, since they're still pretty early on in their adventure.

The naive, energetic teenage Human Swashbuckler girl just looks up to the others. She tends to chat with any NPCs, or help the Small members of the party with reaching tall things.

The Halfling Kineticist (Wood Element) is a young man who likes to whittle and whistle, and is glad to talk and tell stories to the Swashbuckler. He's glad to be in a group with other Smalls, and just generally chipper overall, despite being a farm boy with a mild bit of social anxiety amongst large crowds.

Of the two Ratfolk girls, the first is a /fit/ musclegirl Unchained Monk who spends much of her free time doing push-ups and crunches and showing off her guns. She grew up in a big, human-dominant city, and is eager to explore. She's got a thing for nice-looking clothing, and she really appreciates the floral aesthetic that the Kineticist maintains, what with the petals and buds that he's always got nestled into his hair.

The other Ratfolk girl is a stern, dutiful Witchguard Ranger. She appreciates the rest of her party, and is glad to help protect them as she can. She gets along with the Kineticist quite well, both being Small and both having an affinity with plants. She also enjoys the company of the other Ratfolk, despite growing up in a different culture amongst Elves. Helps to have one of your own around, y'know?

The middle-aged Human Cleric is like that one older friend you have. The one who has seen a lot of things and has plenty of advice to give out. He's also pretty well-learned from working in a Church for the last twenty years, and equally horny for the same reason. Now that he's out and about, he enjoys the return to his the lustful ways of his youth, and most likely has plans to screw every female member of the party, with the exception of the Swashbuckler. He's got a bastard son older than her, for Pelor's sake.

They seem like an odd bunch, but they like each other just fine.

>>51651305
Build your teams m8. It's slim pickings in both games. I'd be surprised if he didn't make the cut for one. Most of the characters posted are dog shit.

Am I missing something, or does Vigilante just obsolete Rogue?

>>51651353
Stalker vigilante does d4s in open combat but it is vastly superior to Rogue, yes.

>>51651353
>Am I missing something
not really. the only thing you missed are the other classes that obsolete rogue.

>>51651353
To be a fair, the rogue is pretty much obselete with the trait that gives disable device versus magical traps.

>>51649746
Does the Strangler (Brawler) Sneak Attack qualify for prestice classes with Sneak Attack Prerequisite?

Does it stack with Sneak Attack? Both ways, one way?

If DHB's characters are so great, he must be in a lot of /pfg/ games?

>>51650464
That would be more fun than this fucker begging for depressed dick.

>>51651407
If you lust for BDHBC so badly why are you acting so coy?

>>51651441
I don't know anything about him, or it, or whatever. I just see a lot of memeing on the subject. How many games is he in?

>>51651407
He made it to the 'honorable mention' of every game he applied to, but didn't get in any. Honestly a big reason I think is he builds characters with very strong personalities/goals and a lot of GMs don't know how to handle that. Having a character that will actually pursue a goal outside of the main plot will often put GMs off their game because it isn't what they planned, especially if the character pursues it doggedly.

Strong stories/personalities/npcs can mess up a GM's story. In every one of DHB's applications he has put 3+ NPCs related to his character in some manner, and 2+ goals parallel to the main plot. In each his autistic level of back story writing shows a strong personality.

Force of personality is off putting.

>>51651472
Just Molthune

>>51651490
In RotJR he had his mentor, his father, two uncles, a search for the source of his curse and a search for his mentor.

I want to play a high level game.

Where do I find a high level game.

>>51651472
Most /pfg/ GMs are both lazy and easily threatened. They want you to do the work for them, but not too much work, because that makes them feel bad.

And DHB's backstory stuff is too inflexible to be worked in, but too boring to build off of.

>>51651499
I was referring to the "Honorable" mention bit, since Molthune was the only one that had one.

>>51651211

>tfw Rubio and Valeriya aren't in the same group

Sad!

>>51651511
Evolve a low level game.

>>51651514
Pendragon also did and he was on that list. He almost made it into HV and was fucked by scheduling.

Jesus Christ would you stop talking about this fucking faggot already. Holy shit.

>>51651513
>And DHB's backstory stuff is too inflexible to be worked in, but too boring to build off of.
I can agree with inflexible, but I for one like his character's backstory and goals.

Punch Fatty was interesting despite being a joke character.

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>>51651411
It's all that he wants.

>>51651514
Didn't Molthune turn out flaked, though? Not really sure being chosen OR rejected counts for a game the GM never planned to run.

>>51651555
Holy shit just shut the fuck up. We get it. You like the guy and want to keep him here so you stroke his ego so he stays despite the big mean anons that say bad things to him. Just please shut the fuck up. This level of brown nosing is crossing "infantile" into fucking annoying and creepy.

>>51651536
Pendragon's honorable mention list was literally 'everyone who didn't get into the main game except someone who was declined because they're in the GM's other game already and another guy with a legitimately awful application'

Where could I find some builds?

>first DHB gets witch hunted
>then stalked

What if witch hunter and stalker are the same anon.

>>51650856
The normies don't scare me because I'm probably more normie than them. I'm still going to apply, as soon as I figure out which character I want to submit. Right now I have a Protean Prowler masquerading as nun of Desna, but then I realized that Skullgirls character is sort of vaguely the same thing. Now I'm not feeling very strongly about it, along with some other reasons. The other is a gnomish widow of an ex-gangster from Varisia.

>>51651615
Some guides have builds in them. Paizo and GitP forums.

>>51651620
What if your waifu orbits my dick?

>>51651620
Where does all this drama come from? The IRC? This thread is completely cancerous. Who cares who's in a game? Why would you even apply for a game with this environment?

>>51651584
What the fuck is this, a love triangle?

>>51651666
I just lost my cool and chimped out. This shit is getting so goddamn annoying and I know I shouldn't even indulge him.

>>51649746
Comic shit image is worse than kitsunes.

>>51651706
>Marvel vs Capcom
>Shit
It's utterly irrelevant , but I'd take it over the usual.

>>51651666
Who even needs anime? I have /pfg/.

>>51651663
The IRC's actually pretty quiet most of the time, at least when it comes to /pfg/. A large chunk of people don't even visit the threads anymore. It's pretty nice there, more friendly and helpful than you'd think!

>>51651783

Now you're making me sad that I don't like using IRC!

>>51651783
I just can't stand this stupid shit in these threads. What is the point? Is it just one person, or what?

>>51651820
>What is the point?
anonymity is a hell of a drug

How do you play someone with high Intelligence or Charisma and great other stats without seeming like a Mary Sue?

My Avowed pacted with a lonely little wyrmling, what kind of dragon should he be?

>>51651540
we could always talk about 2hu instead

>>51651889

Copper dragon, they're desperate for conversation.

>>51651864
Give them flaws that anyone could have. Even if you're intelligent and charming, you could have a possessive streak, or have a problem with petty grudges, be bad with money, have a common fear (like the dark or spiders), or be easily swayed by certain topics (sob stories, people of a certain race/religion, anyone who talks louder than you, etc).

>>51651864
A Mary Sue is not in the strength, but in how they use it. Stay humble and modest, though with an honest assessment of your skills. Don't lord over the rest of the party even when you outdo them. Never assume the will of another.

>>51651864
Give them a character flaw?

>>51651889
either faerie for maximum d'aww or gold for maximum justice.

Or chromatic for maximum drama, I guess

>>51651353
Slayer Vigilante has all the classic problems of a Rogue (systematic ball shots to tumbling flanks, getting multiple attacks, getting consistent SA with the grease/blink/invisibility nerfs) while still thinking splitting the Str/Dex difference with TWF (or lord help you, going one hander) is good enough. Also, you get a dice nerf for when targets are aware of you (which given the new Invisibility rules, they are as soon as you hit them), so unless you have one real good shot, you're ass.

Meanwhile, the Scout Rogue is built on that one good shot, what with SA on a charge and all. Not having to jump through hoops to two hand Power Attack with Dex to Damage and throw SA on that bitch is better for straight damage than anything the non-weeb Slayer Vigilantes can do, outside of Twisting Fear AoE tricks.

The only thing that still eats a URogue's lunch is a Vivisectionist Beastmorph Alchemist, since they have an easy way to get SA and a rude amount of attacks on a full attack action.

>>51649869
Barrister, son

>>51651864
Mary Sue is about unrealistic character expectations and lack of flaws. Make them what a person with those sorts of stats would be like.

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>>51651666
....
YOU
....
Just picked the perfect name for my new Ho'kuun class.

>>51651820
seems to be one or two people who just gigasperg the fuck out.

>>51651864

Play him like great men from history, like Augustus, Hitler, Sherlock Holmes or other geniuses.

>>51651864
Like everybody else has said: Flaws. Make them be visibly afraid, make them not understand things beyond their sphere of influences and/or make them act like a normal person despite being smartypants wizard and a bard who can charm half the town with just the smell of his sweat.

>>51652070
Self-centered prick who masturbated to his own reflection, self-centered prick who effectively lost the war due to taking advice from the wrong people and a self-centered prick who was actually just a high functioning autist?

>>51652070
Sherlock Holmes was fictional my dude, and from time to time had MASSIVE Sue qualities.

>>51651563
GM ran the first session, flaked after.

>>51652105
An amalgam of fur and feathers, this bizarre half-bear, half-owl monstrosity raises its huge, ursine claws in anger.

Owlbear CR 4
XP 1,200
N Large magical beast
Init +5; Senses darkvision 60 ft., low-light vision, scent; Perception +12

DEFENSE
AC 15, touch 10, flat-footed 14 (+1 Dex, +5 natural, –1 size)
hp 47 (5d10+20)
Fort +10, Ref +5, Will +2

OFFENSE
Speed 30 ft.
Melee 2 claws +8 (1d6+4 plus grab), bite +8 (1d6+4)
Space 10 ft.; Reach 5 ft.
STATISTICS
Str 19, Dex 12, Con 18, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 10
Base Atk +5; CMB +10 (+14 grapple); CMD 21 (25 vs. trip)
Feats Improved Initiative, Great Fortitude, Skill Focus (Perception)
Skills Perception +12

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Okay, I may be opening myself up to a HUGE shit storm here, but I have to ask.

What is the major difference between Pathfinder and D&D that makes these two seperate games? Because I find a lot of people converting to Pathfinder and everything I read sounds the exact same...

Also I'm in Alaska and I feel like the only nerd up here and can never find any groups to join...

>>51652155
>What is the major difference between Pathfinder and D&D that makes these two seperate games?

A team of lawyers.

>>51652105

That's not nearly enough to go on for a class, but the only thing I can say for certain is that she's either a Pitborn Tiefling with mild mutations or an Agathion-blooded Aasimar.

>>51652155
Pathfinder is literally 'Wizards of the Coast stopped caring about d&d 3.5 and fans didn't like that, so paizo took 3.5, made a few changes, and called it their own thing'.

Pathfinder is just D&D 3.75

>>51651513
>They want you to do the work for them, but not too much work
Like Espagnoll with his stupid voting shit for 3pp material in Shattered Star?

Is a character very low charisma a character with an awkward personality, self-esteem issues, a stern and humourless person, or a sociopath with no empathy?

>>51652188
>D&D 3.75
That's generous, more like D&D 3.51

>>51652220
Any or all of those things, depending on how you want to play the character.

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>>51652155
D&D is a game with over 40 years of history m8. The various editions are pratically games unto themselves.

Pathfinder itself is an off shoot of 3.5 edition. Effectively house rules, some skill and class differences+some slight changes in monster math. It's still very different from 4th and 5th.

Do Tieflings have -2 Char because people hate them, they cause problem, or is it a supernatural rejection?

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>in 24 hours the incest twins and the talking monkey are going to be picked

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>>51651540
I miss nazi anon.

>>51652285
Demons have autism.
The real answer is "because race balance", but Aasimar throw that shit out the window so who the fuck knows.

>>51652285
All of the above.

Also they're supposed to be ugly.

>>51652285
>Tieflings are quick in body and mind, but are inherently strange and unnerving.

Apparently they just creep people out naturally.

>>51652301
No you don't, you miss attention, you whore.

>>51652296
Anon, don't you mean 27 hours?

>>51652296

Is that pic supposed to be one of the incest twins?

>>51652285
A combination of stigma, naturally alien psychology, ugliness, and social oddities.

Reminder that Milestone leveling is superior.

>>51652296
Loli twins > Incest Twins

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>>51652301
As do I.

>>51652352
Reminder that it should be what works best for your group and you shouldn't hold yourself beholden to the expectations of stranger.

>>51652296
Yet another reason I'm glad I didn't apply to that game.

>>51652343
(1 day from now)
You're technically correct

>>51652346
new twins not the loli twins

>>51652382
shit taste

>>51652296
Does anyone actually believe DHB's character is getting picked? I mean really?

>>51652393
The GM has been gone a full week now, anyway.

>>51652416
He's been gone for a week, crusader GM has been gone for two.

Flake GMs, the lot of them. If they just said "game canceled" instead of disappearing I'd be more ok with it.

>>51652416
Well yeah, but it was more the lolsorandom pirate ghost girl, wacky fetish twins and literally a monkey being top picks for the fucking game.

Shit, if that was the kind of choice I had, I'd bail too.

>>51652452
Dear god, it wasn't just me? These are the exact 3 characters that made me not apply. Also the one that's just Geoffry Rush from those Pirates movies.

>>51652452
>Well yeah, but it was more the lolsorandom pirate ghost girl, wacky fetish twins and literally a monkey being top picks for the fucking game.
What's wrong with a talking monkey/ghost pirate?

The fetish twins I understand, but the game never struck me as hyper serious to begin with.

>Wanted to start my new campaign this weekend
>Have to get a surgery that will render me unable to talk for a week
I wish text games didn't bore me.

>>51652495
>>51652452
Especially in a game where your captain is a futurama reference.

Has anyone in the history of this game ever died to barrel explosion?

>>51652495
>>51652492
>>51652452
>>51652296
What's wrong with the tiefling twins? It's irredeemable magical realm to play cute girls or something?

What's a good name for the son of an honest, hardworking cleric and his Tiefling wife?

>>51651390
I'd say depends. If it wants you to have "at least 2d6 sneak attack dice", sure, Strangler gives you those.
If it wants the actual Sneak Attack class feature, you're out of luck.

>>51652602

Joe

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Hello everyone. Posting one more time for opinions. At the moment I am reexamining the Mercenary Lord at its base as it doesn't fit many types of games.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12297995

For the Unchained Fighter:
>Mercenary Lord
Gains a version of leadership where their leadership score is influenced by their ranks in profession soldier. Their followers are their mercenary company. It begins with all warriors, however they have a series of new options for Advanced Equipment trainings that give them special followers. Such as a low level alchemist with brew potion, a scribe with scribe scroll, curriers, stable masters, kennel masters, special mounts, and more.

>Scofflaw
An intersection between the Unchained Fighter and the Unchained Rogue. Makes the unchained fighter a bit more skill based, and gains rogue talents/skill unlocks.

>Pact Master
A concept I had that gives the Unchained Fighter gains a sapient set of armor and weapon. These have a number of abilities the fighter can decide to use each morning. As well it has an encroachment mechanic where the fighter juggles possibly being taken over for extra power.

For the Unchained Cavalier:
>Beast Lord
Essentially this is an unchained cavalier gaining Rage-lite. The idea is based around a more primal version of the Cavalier, separating them out from the knightly stereotype.

>Green Knight
A four level casting Cavalier based on the druid spell list. They would change out their mount of a plant companion along with favored terrain abilities. Their companion will evolve for what terrains they choose and gain access to special abilities rather than bonus tricks.

>Castellan
An archetypes entirely based around defending and fortifying locations. Changed to remove mount and instead lets the Cavalier bond with an area. Changing this bond is fairly quick to get the minimum bonus, then strengthens over time. It allows them to use a number of tactics specifically in that area, mainly for defending their allies.

I have a question, /pfg/.

Which 1PP monsters aside from the Nymph, Lilitu, and Succubi have special abilities that grant nontrivial bonuses to things (ability scores, saves, skills, ability score bonuses), but aren't doing so via Wish (like an Efreet) ?

>>51652625
Also for a quick announcement! The Unchained Gunslinger is going to be published starting this weekend by Purple Duck games. Thank you everyone for all your support during production.

>>51652630
>Lilitu
Huh, didn't know about that one. Stronger effect than Succubus AND they can't retract it, nor have to worry about being mentally harassed. Will have to keep it in mind. Don't know about other creatures with similar effects though, unless you count a level 16 Dragon Pact Avowed.

>>51652611
I like it. We'll call him Joe.

>>51652527
Hm... I don't know offhand, but it's entirely possible; at higher levels a full-attack can easily blow your barrel up before you can do anything. The damage isn't high, but if you were already in critical condition...

>>51652738
level 16 dragon pact won't count. It's not granted by the creature actually, it's a class ability AND comes from the avowed's own power. The dragon just basically either taught or jump-started the avowed's magic originally, which helps shape what it becomes.

>>51652602

Cirelc and Gnilfeit

>>51652625
Castellan feels more like an NPC class to me, being tied to an area doesn't usually work for PCs. Regular Cavalier also already has an archetype with the same name, so might want to try to find a different one to avoid confusion if possible.

>>51652776
Why does it have to be from a creature ability specifically anyways? Do you want to go hunting for monsters to power you up or something?

>>51652603
>Special: Sneak attack +2d6.
So that would work then.
Onto the other question.

If you have sneak attack from a different class, say Rogue. And you make a sneak attack, does it stack?
If you have sneak attack from a different class, say Rogue. And you make a grapple attack, does it stack?

>>51652452
>wacky fetish twins
What fetish?

>>51652804
I saw this complain previously and have been thinking it over. The idea has changed from binding to one area to be able to bind to an area given a short amount of time (maybe as short as 10 minutes). So basically it would work in any situation that isn't a surprise ambush or on the road. However that is still restricting as you said.

>>51652839
Yes

>>51649746
>I would play that game, I would play that game so hard.
My groups usually tend towards a 'fuck you guys, but fuck anyone else that would look at us sideways first.' mentality that slowly grows into a real band of brothers type thing.

>>51652829
I'm the guy that originally asked the question, and yeah, that's pretty much it. GM has houseruled Simulacrum to where I have to have a piece of whatever I'm copying, hair or skin or whatever, so I figure I may as well see what I can take advantage of.

>>51652848
Monster girl and incest.

>>51652850
Have you considered letting it be tied to a mobile object that's large enough like a wagon so it can work in the caravan guard function when it gets ambushed?

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>>51652452
>>51652492
>>51652495
I was under the impression it wasn't a full on serious game.

Besides that, ghost pirates are radical as hell. Never seen a flying dutchman?

>>51652452
>pirate ghost girl, wacky fetish twins and literally a monkey being top picks for the fucking game.
Who said they were top pick? Some troll anon who came in and claimed he was the GM?

>>51652839
>The strangler is always considered flanking her target for the purpose of using this ability.

I'd say if you qualify for sneak damage on a grapple normally it would stack, but if only one of Strangler grapple-sneak or Rogue actual-sneak apply you only get those.

>>51652908
While I think it's dumb to say that a core race in most D&D editions is a monster girl, we've had that argument and I can't win it it seems.

But... are you actually accusing him of making a character that's actually two characters, for the sole purpose of having sex with the other half of his own character? In a game that doesn't really have sex?

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>everyone so focused on the triggered twins, ghoastgril and monkey that they forget the literal fucking snekgril app.

>>51652942
That is a fantastic idea.

>>51652996
WELL NOW YOU'VE GONE AND REMINDED ME, FUCK YOU

>>51652992
I wish I was as dumb and naive as you. You clearly don't understand how far incestfags will go to shove their dumb fetish into places it doesn't belong. They're almost as bad as footfags, vorefags, furfags, diaperfags and yurifags. Almost.

>>51652992
Were they tieflings? Because fuck tieflings being core.
In fact, fuck all those half-humans being core, get that shit out of here.

>>51653038
>hating on half-orc/half-elf
y tho

>>51653038

What do you have against half-elves and half-orcs?

>>51653051
>>51653058
PURITY FIRST!

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>>51653031
Wait a minute, are you some kind of faggot who doesn't want to bang hot twins?

That's a normie thing to want.

>>51653038
Prehensile tail for dual pistols

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>>51652943
It's okay they're just jealous.

>>51653038
>>51653065
>nazi shithead is back
Guess we won't be seeing Jolly for a while again.

>>51652992
player's mentioned he intended to do incest lewds in-thread, yeah.

Of course it all could be trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls

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>>51653070
NORMALS LEAVE!

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>mfw making a Swordlord character for Kingmaker gestalt
>mfw +11 to-hit with a Dueling Sword at level 3

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>>51653116
>needing +11 to deal 1d8 damage

>>51653082
LIke... ERPing by himself? or as in a joke about doing lewd things with the other players and having both of the twins in there?

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>>51653161

He's got Scarlet Einhander, you big dumbie! That means 1d8+1d6+7 not counting Strikes!

And then I'm taking Dueling Mastery, so his total AC is 23 with an extra +3 to his damage!

>>51653199
I cast Sleep.

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>>51653199
>using the book of weeabboo fightan magicks 2.0
Wew lad.

Anyone here ever played in Cerulean Seas? Was it fun? Was it lewd?

>>51653209
Yes, and? I pass the save.

>>51649746
What's your favorite class
mechanically and in terms of role playing?
Is it the same?

>>51649746
Aside from DSP, and PFG's own homebrew, is there any 3PP you guys actually like/would use given a reasonable GM?

>>51653219
It is excusable, and preferable to vanilla, until SoM comes out.

>>51653209

Good luck getting through my +7 Will, you dork!

>>51653219

You got a problem that that, you bug-eyed anime girl?

>>51653238
Spheres of Power, Spheres of Might, N. Jolly content, Forrestfire Studios are all popular here.

>>51653238
Almost everything I've seen by Forrest and Jolly looks very fun and solid.

So one of our party members recklessly set another on fire in a fight with some roaches. What's the Just response? Chastise the reckless one? Comfort the injured one? Both? Neither?

>>51653070
You know, the pornos or 'dear penthouse' stories always talk about twins or at least sisters, but...

Usually actually it's roomates.

>>51653275
Depends on your God.

In any case, prepare to fall for whatever you do cause "lel evil action" for not doing the other thing first

>>51653295
It still disappoints me that pfg refuses to look past the tits. There's quite fertile ground ba-dum tsh to work with in the backstory.

>>51653348
The Lady of Trumpets

>>51653390
I'll work with your Backstory, slut

>>51653238
My ideal in terms of content at this point in time would probably be something along the lines of:
>1pp+Forrestfire+Jolly for baseline content, with case-by-case review by the GM of other 3pp since there's often actually some gems out there
>or at least things worth considering, like the 3pp magus arcana that makes Enduring Arcana not shit, or Yokai for Kitsune
>feat tax rules, background skills, and stamina rules enabled, and 9th casters besides Sorcerer and Oracle banned.

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>>51653031
>>51653070
I have an actual twin sister and I figured I'd chip in.

Kind of used to it, to be honest. Both of us. Like, it's a common enough fantasy. Doesn't offend us or anything. If someone paid enough money, y'know?

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>>51653199
>>51653116

S-Speaking of Sword Scion, what are another two traits I should take for a hot-blooded prodigy of the Dueling Sword? I'm aiming for maximum POWER here!

His Initiative is at +8, but it can go higher!

>>51653472
Have you been rehearsing? Which one tops?

>>51653472
I'm sure senpai

>>51653494
You got the Reactionary Trait for +2 to initiative? Do you have access to the Riven Hourglass maneuvers? There's a stance that gives you +4 to init.

>>51653472
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1VOQRY5bCZx

>>51653528
>You got the Reactionary Trait for +2 to initiative?

+2 Dex, +4 Improved Initiative, +2 Sword Mastery, I could probably take Reactionary for that extra +2, and Riven Hourglass sounds real nice! I'm relying on Einhander for the moment, but Riven would be real useful for showing off his "zandatsu."

>>51653555
You'd only need the stance at the start of battle. Once your inititives are decided, you could switch back to Scarlet Einhander, since you can change Stances for a swift action. Thus gaining the benefits of both classes

At what point does "high AC" become "too much fucking AC jesus calm down nigga" for levels 3-5? What about for Touch AC?

>>51653452
>feat tax rules
>Stamina Rules
I assume these are unchained variant rules?

What do they do? How are they better?

>>51653258
Really? It seems every time someone brings up Spheres, the people making it are the only ones with good things to say about it. I got the impression the general consensus was "Worse design than Paizo, and the guy in charge is an ass." I had written it off as something to skip over based on what I'd been hearing.

What makes spheres good?

>Jolly, Forrest
Fair enough.

What about the actual publishers, do any of them put out good stuff? Legendary, *Genius, Kobold, etc?

>>51653591
>since you can change Stances for a swift action

Wait, really? I thought you can only change stances as a standard... This changes everything.

>>51653611
According to the SRD, that's true.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/systems-and-use
>Stances are initiated as a swift action. A stance remains in effect indefinitely and is never expended. The benefit of your chosen stance continues until you change to another stance you know as a swift action.

>>51653058
Nothing, as for the races themselves.
It's just real fucking bland when all the core races are humans.

>>51653472
... I have a twin sister too... we did end up sameface enough that we're probably related to Hisashi Hirai.

With the right girl it would be kinda like watching a genderbent version of ourselves fucking... watching I think we'd be okay with. But actually teaming up at the same time, no. That's just ew.

>>51653679
>>51653549

>>51653598
First question: At the point where it starts eating into your other capabilities. Using a heavy shield instead of a light shield is mostly just an upgrade for little cost, but taking the dodge feat just to turn that 29 into a 30 is probably eating into the other shit you could be doing.

For the second: As much as possible without harming yourself otherwise.

>>51653679
What are you, gay? Embrace that sibling booty, son!

>>51653234
Both of those are probably the Reincarnated Psychic, I love being a spontaneous caster able to just go "I know this spell not even from my list today", really helps out.
The one I played was an ex-Life Oracle, made some fun times realizing that my past self was so Lifey they're bleeding into the next one.

A shame the campaign didn't really go anywhere, wanted to see what kind of backstory the DM attached to the past life.

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>>51653603
>Feat Tax Rules
It's from this: http://michaeliantorno.com/feat-taxes-in-pathfinder/
Personally I would use at least a slightly altered/expanded version, but there's too many fucking feat taxes to reasonably list them all. Major things, though?
>makes Power Attack, Deadly Aim, and Combat Expertise into things anyone can just fucking DO, if they have +1 BaB
>bashed several combat manuever feats together so you're not pigeonholed as hard
>loosened the noose around TWF, made bows (and I guess other ranged weapons) require at least one less feat to get going

>Stamina Rules
Stamina is one of the few really fucking cool systems that paizo has come out with, but it is one that will NEVER be expanded upon, because FUCK YOU MARTIALS. It is from Unchained, yes. Fighters getting it for free is a common thing, as well.

>>51653611
The fuck? It's been swift actions since ToB.

Could I get build critique/advice?

Unchained Rogue, Human; Standard TWF Hammer Rogue & 20 pb

Str 10, Dex 19, Con 14, Int 10, Wis, 12, Cha 10 (willing to drop int and cha)

Feats:
1 - Improved Initiative
H1B - Two Weapon Fighting
3 - Great Fort/Iron Will
5 - Great Fort/Iron Will
7 - ???
9 - Improved Two-Weapon Fighting
11 - ???

Talents:
T2 - Weapon Training (Weapon Focus on Gladius)
T4 - Resilency
T6 - Pressure Points
T8 - ???
T10 - ???

Campaign should end in low teens, need to be viable and competent at all levels. Uncertain about 3rd and 5th level feats, but seem like decent choices, and uncertain about my rogue talents beyond Weapon Focus.

>>51653603
Spheres is a lot more focused. In vancian, you're a little hardpressed to have an overarching theme. Its hard to just be 'fireguy' if thats what you want.

Spheres can do that way easier.

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>>51653631

Alright. What would you prefer as core races?

>>51653704
Mostly curious about a reasonable limit before I'd start pissing off a GM, since I'd be pushing 30 at 5th, before taking into account magic items. While buck naked and only using a sword, and where it would also apply to touch since >dodge

>>51653800
As a GM when my players started getting too high of an AC I started giving mooks custom feats that did nothing but boost their attack rolls. That's a nice 30 AC you got there. Would be a shame if this random gazelle had a feat that gives her +27 to attack rolls against PCs.

>>51653756
Humans, Elves, Dwarves, Actual Orcs, Gnomes, and merge the Oread/Ifrit/Undine/Sylph/Suli races into one that just takes on an aspect of where they live (and that aren't just humans who fucked something else)

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>>51650294
In my time playing with spheres, I've seen Incantors, Hedgewitches, Sphere Summoners, Elicitors, Sphere Sorcerers, and Soul Weavers relatively often.

>>51653860
> not just using spells/spell likes to make AC irrelevant

>>51653860
You sound like a shit DM.

>>51653870
Forgot the Armorist and Shifter get a lot of play, too.

>>51653860

>Aw shit dood, my AC isn't even high enough to avoid getting hit by a gazelle
>better up my AC a couple more points!

>>51653860
>As a GM I prefer to invalidate player choice.
>None shall escape the rails!

>>51653860
>not just throwing something that denies dex bonus to AC and rendering all that bullshit invalid
>not throwing shit that bypasses AC entirely

What, are you giving random mooks all "Favored Enemy +20: This One Faggot Who Dodges Good" like some kind of tool?

>>51653860
Bad solution is bad.
Have enemies that think! Hit him grease, area effect spells, grapples!
Make the player put their awesome AC to good use body blocking, be a team player.

>>51653876
>>51653914
>when PCs get too tough abruptly everyone in the world is a spell slinger with a caster level of 9.
Makes sense.

>>51653877
>>51653903
You sound like a shit player. I bet you're the type who rolls a 1 but then tips the dice so it shows a 5 or something.

>>51653927
So why should anyone bother havin AC in your games if you're just gonna shit on them anyway? And what about people who didnt jack their AC?

>>51653679
I get you senpai. I'm a hot triplet and I'd totally bang my other two hot triplet siblings with these two sets of super hot septulets we hang out with and bang all the time anyway.

>>51653927
This is bait, but I'll take it.

No, not everyone is a spellcaster, but nearly everyone has ACCESS to a spellcaster or good enough alchemist.

Tanglefoot bags, nets, alchemists fire in large quantities, drowning, poisoning and more. There are tons and tons of ways to challenge such a character without resorting to 'well everyone that attacks you gets a bonus on their to-hit cause I don't like to think'.
Hell, I had a party facing off against a fuck-off steel golem thing once they I knew they couldn't do anything against so that they would run. They made the knowledge checks, they knew what it was, and that it was dirt dumb. So they lured it into a trap made of stone to mud and mud to stone, encased the fucker, and I had to call a pause to figure out how the story would progress with them getting to a place way to early.

Point is, use your fucking head.

>>51653965
>17 genetic freaks getting freaky

That's...kind of arousing

>>51653982
I live in London, too.

>>51653971
No dude, if you don't just suck his dick you're a cheater, obviously.

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>>51653927
>he doesn't put the party against things capable of using spells anyway
>anons are all shit players because they call you lazy

Moshi moshi baitu-desu

>>51653862
>taking away the Geniekin

But why?

>>51653993
I don't get it, is this some old meme I'm not familiar with?

>>51652829
It's psychic magic, it comes from an emotional connection to the thing. It also doesn't have to be from a creature - those are called Esoteric pacts, and come from an emotional connection to something else.

>>51654083
>announcing you're a newfag

>>51654083
Yeah, thirsty anons on /fit/ who lived in London and asked any attractive girl or guy if they were from London too.

Are paladins just incapable of being afraid? How would that impact them in their day-to-day lives?

>>51654122

Follow up, would it be possible for a paladin to have social anxiety?

>>51654110
Well, can't blame anons for trying I suppose.

>>51654083
L O N D O N
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N
D
O
N

>>51654122
>>51654137
They're not incapable of fear, they're just not affected negatively by it. So the paladin is scared, but he doesn't drop his sword and run, he just pushes through it.

>>51654122
Basically? Either they don't feel fear anymore, or its impact is so reduced they function perfectly fine.

>>51654122
I think it's more like you can't be demoralized or adversely affected by fear. Being afraid becomes a matter of personality--you can still be afraid of things, or afraid of possibilities, but you are divinely empowered to stand strong against the physiological effects of fear.

Your hands won't shake, you are immune to the fight-or-flight instinct, you are not physically affected in any way that might cause you to flee or falter.

Is the Roll With It feat as great as I think? Any goon can have +10 Acrobatics without trying at creation.

>>51654174
Wait, does that mean they still carry diseases that can't affect them? That's fucked, son. Super fucked.

>>51654200

I don't believe that's the intention, no.

>>51654200
Depends what disease. If they're not a viable host for a pathogen then they can't be a carrier.

>>51654200
No. Paladins are just flat out immune to disease. They can't contract them in the first place. An anti-paladin on the other hand is the immune carrier.

If im a level 10 zwei sent warder what is my range for defensive focus?

>>51654077
Because I feel genie-touched should be a template aquired during a character's life, not a race that just kinda popped up when someone decided to fuck a genie.
At a minimum they shouldn't breed true; each genie-kin should require a parent to be a genie.

>>51654350
Assuming you start with 5ft reach, that's +5ft for zweisent, and +15 for defensive focus progression, total of 25ft.

>>51654188
It's an immediate action, so it's only one attack per round that you can avoid, but yeah it's not terrible. It falls way off in later levels though, because damage ends up going well in excess of 40 or 50 per attack, and enemies have way more attacks as well.

>>51654358
If it infuriates you so to have strange and fantastic elements in your game, why don't you just go play something that isn't fantasy?

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>>51654460
> baiting this poorly

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I'm bored and need ideas for a fantasy race to homebrew

Gimme some kind of idea to work with, not even just a race idea, but any small thing to start from, and I'll see if I can make something of it.

>>51654494
playable leshy

playable leshy

PLAYABLE LESHY

>>51654494
Three legs, three arms, and three eyes

>>51654494
>>51654509
And three dicks.

>>51654494
CUTE

ANIMU

ANIMALS

>>51654494
Lobster people!

...with options for crab and shrimp.

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Only 24 hours remain....

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>>51654506
seems kinda iffy, especially considering how leshies are essentially druidic homunculi, so I'm unsure how to make such a thing without a serious overhaul.

Also, DDS already beat me to the punch on it.

>>51654509
I can doo something with this! Do you mind if I give them a racial eye beam and ahve them go OOOOOOOLAAAAAAH!

>>51654543
last I checked, a kemono supplement already exists as a 3pp thing

>>51654569
This also sounds like a fun idea, may work on this as well. I might also give them a Mantis Shrimp ART or archetype

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>>51654494

>>51654617
That looks like a Grey Render or a Motherless Tiefling

>>51654604
I have to go listen to that whole album again, fuck.

>>51654604
>I can doo something with this! Do you mind if I give them a racial eye beam and ahve them go OOOOOOOLAAAAAAH!

Sounds perfect.

>>51654640
>needing a reason to listen to the album
Just take a look around you,
At the world we used to know.
Does it seem to be much more
Than a crazy circus show?

But maybe from the MADNESS,
Something beautiful will grow.

In a brave new world,
With just a handful of men,
We'll start,
We'll start all over AGAIN!

ALL OVER AGAIN!

Man, the Artilleryman such a perfect NPC

>>51653890
A million times this.
That's just causing a fucking arms race.
>"I thought my AC was high but it turns out it's shit"
>"Fuck. I'm missing my PCs again. Better up the attack rolls by another 5!"
>"Goddamnit, how fast does monster attack bonus go up? Is there anything left I can still find to get it up to at least 70? Surely I won't be getting hit 9 times out of 10 at 70?"

>>51649746
What are the best domains?

And why is it Void (Isolation? )

>>51654604
DDS did leshies?

>>51654768
Anon, that's not how you spell Self-Realization OR Nobility.

>>51654768
I like Animal and Travel. Chaos would be baller if it didn't require a melee touch attack. Luck never hurts.

>>51654792
>nobility

too bad it's probably gonna be banned in most games

>>51654842
Self-Realization will as well. It gives you Paragon Surge as a domain spell.

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Tell me about your favorite country to make characters from, lads!

Of course you should make a character from the region the AP takes place, but when you're given free reign to be from *anywhere*, where do you hail?

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>Ornate Coffin is only 100 gp, 50 lbs

I wonder how offended the Dhampir Summoner in the party would be if I bought her one as a gift.

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>>51654494
What about ayy lmaos. Like literal ayy lmaos, little green men and shit.

>>51654890
>Of course you should make a character from the region the AP takes place
Weak bait.

>>51654890
I grew attached enough to Korvosa that I've made most of my characters from there. It's a nice, detailed city that's had a couple books about it, and the AP taking place there is one of the better ones (usually).

also Trinia is bae

>>51654774
Yup, though in name only really
Their in the Skyborne players guide, and are essentially Swampthing/Groot

>>51654929
I thought Paizo already did them

>>51654915

... Why would a Dhampir want a coffin.

It also flabbergasts me how people don't realize so much of the "good life" stuff in Golarion is really cheap. You want to settle down? Houses are only a thousand gold - heck, if you want luxury a mansion is only five, or a noble villa eight. A luxurious meal is only a gold piece, and outfitting a room with luxury (like, velvet drapes, silk sheets, lacquered chairs, goose feather beds) is hardly more than a hundred gold.

A level 8 adventurer should be living the good life, they should have a pavilion and cart carrying all the comforts of home, staffed by a dedicated butler and camp followers.

>>51654890
Usually, wherever's "next door" or best firs the concept.

So, if we're in the Worldwound, I might make a Kellid from Numeria, or the Realm of the Mammoth Lords. I might even make an Irriseni. Just so long as it's someone who might pop over for a visit from not so far away.

>>51654945

>I'm going to completely ignore the Campaign Traits that usually suggest I'm a native to either the country or the region because I need need NEED to make my Japanese Samurai.