/swg/ Star Wars General: My Boyfriend Edition

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First for Atha Prime, ruler of the dark worlds.

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>Renposter is at it again

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>>51634131
You will never truly be free of me.

>>51634131
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5enKjKAlQU

HEY

>>51634068
If that's your boyfriend post a picture of the two of you from your last date.

>>51633949

So I think that Star Trek actually gives a better narrative context to this sort of issue of bridge crews than Star Wars does, and can be useful to think about when trying to figure out what players can do in this situation.

Guys on the bridge crew are important NPCs (rivals) and PCs. Individual members of their specific crew don't matter, especially once you get up there in crew complement - but in a standard military structure if your department head has no idea what he's doing, you're gonna be disorganized or force to stand around with your foot in your dick. So players skill is important to roll to kind of figure out how they get people to do what they do for standard ship actions.

For captains/commanders specifically, look at what those guys do on Star Trek. They point at specific bridge officers and give orders (Giving a Rival or fellow PC an order with an ability like Field Commander, just remember Rivals don't recover strain, it has to be recovered as wounds), they use their knowledge to find out things about enemies, and they can use their own skill to perform actions to supplement their specialists like plotting the course the pilot will take, giving gunners fire discipline, etc. They also are usually your point of contact, so they handle all the talking with other ships, crews, etc.

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>>51634174
Note that I edited a fake face on my own to avoid identification

>>51634216
I said date, anon, not your last trip to your sex dungeon.

>>51634212
These are some pretty good ideas, thanks anon!

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>>51634068
>Ep.8 trailer within the next couple months
>more Kylo Ren

fuck off Luke and Rey, give me more Ren, Poe and Finn

>>51634223
You say sex dungeon, I say "playroom."

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https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v4!s!84:-1,163:-1:20:;205:8,-1,184,-1:41:26:;139:-1,126,-1,17,167,24,-1:-1:16:&sn=Unnamed%20Squadron

r8 my jank /tg/

I've had this k-wing sitting around for some time and wanted to put it to use, and I just picked up the ARC so might was well kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

>>51634313
I like them all.

But I really can't wait for punished TR-8R and the return of Phasma.

>>51634531
>Hobbie and not Biggs
>Miranda without TLT

I am ever surprised at just how bad /tg/ is at almost everything.

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>>51634575
>Phasma
God, I hope they do something that makes her worth existing.
>inb4 she exists to sell toys

>>51634575
TR-8R survived, I don't care what Disney says.

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We see Gallofree GR-75 transport ships participate in space battles in ROTJ and in Rogue One. But we never actually see them do anything. As far as I know, they only have a single turret or at least only defensive armament.
What do they actually do? Do they just float there and act as distraction targets?
I have also heared that they are used as floating bombs or suicide crafts, but that does not make sense either. In ROTJ, we see plenty of them still floating around after the second Death Star is destroyed.
Help me solve this riddle, /swg/. You are my only hope.

>>51634643
For real, I was actually thinking she'd be some kind of actual-badass Stormtrooper who'd give the heroes pause. But nope. Nothing. I think she had like six lines total in TFA.

>>51634630
I saw some clown that used Miranda to vomit out 5 dice missile volleys and I wanted in on that. TLT is the correct choice in all likely hood, but it looked >fun.

Hobbie because I love the idea of K-turning back and forth forever. But good versions of these builds use biggs normally so you are correct.

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>>51634653
Probably filled with all those shield generator supplies for that planetary shield the Rebels set up IMMEDIATELY after the DS2 blew up, IOT save the damn Ewoks.

Pic related

>>51634663
You can have missiles AND tlt on Miranda...

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>>51634649
He became legend, Anon.

And Legends never die

>>51634691
but the points man

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>>51634653
They could be heavily shielded/armoured acting as a screen/as barrage balloons.

Alternatively, the ones engaged over Endor could have just been upgraded with extra weapons systems to be repurposed as fighting craft.

>>51634696
He's spinning in our hearts now.

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Continued from >>51631469
Recap: Question was
>why don't the early Rebels use more TIEs

I understand most of these counter-arguments about Rebels emphasizing survivability and the lack of hyperdrive severely limiting its hit-and-run capabilities.
I was, however, also considering the potential "waste not, want not" aspect of doing so.
For starts, I have to imagine the early Rebels were starved for equipment, and smuggling and personal ships only gets you so far. Now a lot of real-world rebel stealing from your opponent for arming yourself is nothing new and even an encouraged tactic. Raiding supply depots for arms, ammo, and other equipment, as well as scavenging it off the battlefield, are all good sources of materiel.
Along with this, I would have to imagine a lot of Imperial defectors would take their ships with them on their defections. Like I also mentioned, that "TIE" carrier also probably not only came with a complement but maintenance parts as well.
While the TIE/LN is by no means an "ideal" craft, but considering a) at that stage you need all the equipment you can get and b) you have a good number of craft lying around anyway, it would make sense to press them into service until you can increase your fleets of better craft.

Tl;dr the early Rebels probably shouldn't reject something when they can use just about all they can get

>>51634855

To clarify something from here you can also smuggle/steal spare parts if you want; Sienar has a lot of factories and the TIE is so mass produced the parts shouldn't be hard to acquire, even in your early stage.

To continue as well, while the TIE isn't independent of a carrier ship, it can just be shipped with the carrier. I can imagine the Rebels stealing a few carriers or Gozanti cruisers with the TIEs intact and using those in their raids.
Even without that, I notice the Rebels typically travel in small fleets. The TIEs can therefore be used as rear-echelon fleet protection.

Again, this is all until the Rebels are able to get enough of their "own" ships.

>>51634653
they are pretty good support ships in armada, and those dont have guns either
they are probably loaded to the gills with command and control equipment

>>51634855
X-wing has a stolen TIE for the rebels, but the lack of generic pilots implies it is for specialists only

it also seems that the rebels always had an impressive arsenal, the rebels show has them engaging in A-wing spam, and Rouge one has them with a very good arsenal to match scarifs garrison

all this before the battle of Yavin, so they were never so strapped for cash that they had to resort to stolen fighters

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>>51634696
>that spoiler

>>51634914
I think the issue with the Rebels is that it's a lot harder to get a hold of trained or skilled fighter pilots than it is to get a hold of the craft themselves. As such, the few pilots they have use the best, most versatile craft. TIEs are fast, but not very independent or "mobile" in terms of operation. In the late days of the Rebellion I suppose it could make sense to have a stolen Gozanti or whatever, but in the earlier days, I don't think the Rebels could afford to gamble pilots on craft that couldn't escape and regroup independently.

Eg; an attack goes sour and the squadron is scattered, they can at least jump to hyperspace individually and regroup later if they go in X-Wings/what have you. If they went in TIEs and a carrier and the squadron was scattered, they'd have to all manage to get back to the carrier to dock, and then escape; if the carrier is destroyed or disabled, the fighter pilots are fucked.

>>51634855
You're still ignoring the core problem that the Rebel fleet wasn't exactly overburdened with the capital ships necessary to haul these ships around until after Yavin. The ships they did have weren't capable of carrying TIEs in the numbers necessary to make the fighters useful. The average TIE Squadron was what, 24 or 36 fighters? Assuming you refit the GR-75 to carrier half of that, you're still not as effective as hauling a Z-95 squadron. Would the Rebels use them on the quiet? Sure what the hell. But making them their main craft seems bizarre.

>>51635027
TIEs simply arent equipped for the fights rebels are planning
only effective in large number, which the rebels will never have
A-wings seem to be their new cheapo fighter

>>51634653
I could see some being refitted as light carriers for headhunters and V-wings and other non-hyperspace fighters, and others being used to collect shot-down pilots and escape pods

>>51634855

To clarify something from here you can also smuggle/steal spare parts if you want; Sienar has a lot of factories and the TIE is so mass produced the parts shouldn't be hard to acquire, even in your early stage.

To continue as well, while the TIE isn't independent of a carrier ship, it can just be shipped with the carrier. I can imagine the Rebels stealing a few carriers or Gozanti cruisers with the TIEs intact and using those in their raids.
Even without that, I notice the Rebels typically travel in small fleets. The TIEs can therefore be used as rear-echelon fleet protection.

Again, this is all until the Rebels are able to get enough of their "own" ships.

>>51635121

Whoops double posted by accident

>>51634653

Same thing they do in XWM anon.

They're support craft doing command and control duties. The cargo space means they can haul additional supplies, materiel, and equipment which a ship their size might not otherwise be rated for. They can be armed with additional shield generators and projectors to act as cover and screening ships, they can act as supply tankers to help ships in a fight, they can carry ECM/ECCM and other support gear like sensor and comms gear. In a pinch, you can make them makeshift carriers or mine ships.

>>51635033
I was really referring to using them at all, probably as a reserve craft, instead of making an entire fleet out of them. Like I said, it was just to pad their Starfighter fleet until they can get better fighters

What makes the X-Wing a better fighter than the ARC-170? It's probably much cheaper to make but is there anything else I'm missing?

>>51635259
>smaller
>less crew required
>presumably more maneuverable

Does the ARC-170 even have shields?

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>>51635259
>More engines = muh redundancy
>Sexier
>More forward-facing firepower
>Smaller crew requirement
>Slightly smaller in Legends
>Slightly higher max atmospheric speed in Legends
>Better hyperdrive in Legends
>Higher max acceleration in Legends
>Back-to-back Death Star champ
>Fewer (visible) moving parts
>Sexier

The X-wing has a higher price tag, but seeing as Republic credits and Imperial credits are different, I have no idea how they actually stack up when accounting for exchange rates. PT-era prices were weird. Eta-2s somehow cost about as much as TIE Defenders despite only being slightly better than TIE Interceptors.

Does anyone have the actual Star Wars Sourcebook for the WEG game? I checked the bin, not there sadly... though pretty much everything else is.

>>51635354
>Eta-2s somehow cost about as much as TIE Defenders despite only being slightly better than TIE Interceptors.
Supply and demand, my dude. Everyone wants to look cool in their jedi starfighter. Also based Raith keeping costs low.

>>51635311
The ARC-170 reminds me of the A-10 warthog sometimes. Also, can a normal civilian buy a cruiser?

>>51635386
I mean, can't you look at the similarities?

>>51635174
>>51634653

In EotE, the GR-75 is stated to have two hard points, and an encumbrance capacity of 1000. They require a crew of 7 at most to operate. While they aren't very hardy (They have about the same hull integrity as sturdy light freighters, which no longer makes me laugh at them for being torn apart by like 3 interceptors in Rebels) they have pretty good armor for a ship that size, and shielding in all sectors.

They cost enough that you can get six and some aftermarket for the same cost you can buy one whole CR90. They're hyperdrive equipped and have a Medium sensor range, so they have pretty good talking and seeing radius. With two HP there are a lot of suggested mods in the system to allow all kinds of specialization. And then with the astonishing amount of Encumbrance you could carry all kinds of external equipment and gear not part of the ship itself.

>>51635371
You have to look in the older RPGs pastebin, not the FFG one.

>>51635386
Probably depends on where they are, who they're buying it from, and how they're sourcing the multi-million credit cost.

>>51635354
Good points but I still feel like having a gunner is a great point for the ARC. Imagine if the rebels had a gunner to shoot back the Ties trailing them on the Death Star. Could probably have saved some pilots

>>51635434
I looked in the older one, not there man.

>>51634997
Xwing also has arc170 as a rebel ship because?

Point being that factions need to be diverse and unique.

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>>51635386
If you look at the P-61 Black Widow, the WWII in SPESS design similarities are quite clear.

>>51634663
I used to run around with Miranda, Airen and Jan Ors.
Jammy and frail as fuck, but the look on people's faces when I fired my 6 dice TL+focus homing missiles, dude. Priceless.

Threadly reminder that Star Wars died the moment the new canon began.

>>51635434
Alright. So, how would hybrids be treated between other species in star wars. Let's say a twi'lek and a human fall in love and they have children. With some technobabble.jpeg they aren't sterile. So this is in the empire era, and the father is an imperial captain who isn't a dickwad racist. So, what happens next?

>>51635673
>waaaah

>>51635679
The father gets demoted into oblivion and never gets invited to get drinks.

>>51635679
Hybrids between different species is stupid bullshit. Human/chiss is fine. Human/Zeltron is fine. Human/Twi'lek is bullshit. Human/Zabrak is bullshit.

So what's a good way to get characters that fight in the Clone Wars to remain relatively young so they can fight in the GCW? I was thinking carbonite freezing, but that seems kinda cliche. I was also considering a ship's relativistic shield failing, but that also seems kinda ehhhh

>>51635844
Why not have the elite clone commanders in a system just like how they kept MAzer Rhackham alive in Enders Game?

>>51634643
>>51634649
>>51634696
How the fuck did no one think to give his part to Phasma. That still irks me to this day.

>>51635866
Why would a Captain be on the battlefield unless absolutely necessary?

>>51634653
>What do they actually do? Do they just float there and act as distraction targets?
They carry BRAVE REBEL MARINES to assault the PUNY IMPERIAL STAR DESTROYERS in glorious MANO HANDS OF FATE combat.

>>51635896
I was under the Impression that she fought at the front, having custom armour and all.

>>51635896
To lead and direct the soldiers under her command when engaged in such a big operation like that. They way she decided to just turn off the shields instead of dying was dumb too for someone so fanatically loyal.

>>51635844
Well, there's nineteen years between RotS and ANH.

So, if they're a teenager during the Clone Wars, they could be in their early-to-mid thirties.

Also, Cassian supposedly fought at some point in the Clone Wars, and he was like six at the time.

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>>51635354
>X-Wing Writefag accidentally endorses A-Wings: the post

>>51635896
Captain is pretty much as high as you can go and still be on the front.

>>51635929
Possibly ceremonial, but indicative of having seen combat yes.
>>51635938
Sergeants, lieutenants, and so on, would be more likely to be put at risk as she leads from the back, having presumably seen combat and proven herself before.

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>>51635896
>FOLLOW MY TRACERS
Sometimes captains do get assigned to frontline duties.

>>51635967
>Implying A-wings aren't my second-favorite Rebel craft
She's still the littlest sister in the Incom family to me. Kuat-built my ass.

>>51635896
>Why would a Captain be on the battlefield unless absolutely necessary?

Why would a Princess be on the battlefield, ever?

Why would a Commander single-handedly sabotage an AT-AT?

Why would a General fly a freighter inside the Death Star?

Sometimes, I feel that /tg/ forgets everything about Star Wars and supplants it with common sense. Star Wars doesn't make sense, folks. Stop being spergs and accept that not everything seen in the movies is the proper tactical decision.

>>51635938
>They way she decided to just turn off the shields instead of dying was dumb too for someone so fanatically loyal.

Yeah, I have to headcanon that as her not believing the base could be threatened or her being a private contractor that was kept on the FO's payroll and given a nice rank and benefits to keep training troops.

>>51636037
>Sometimes, I feel that /tg/ forgets everything about Star Wars and supplants it with common sense.
Welcome to /swg/, where people try to make sense of the prequels rather than just ignoring them outright and avoiding the issue altogether.

>>51635997
I know, but are they still not usually the least at risk out of their unit or whatever in the fuck we call them now?
>>51636023
Sometmes but not always.
>>51636037
Her planet was destroyed the answer is simply revenge.

Fun.

Also fun.

I never claimed it made sense.

>>51636073
Well then, in that case, Captain Phasma would clearly be on the battlefield for revenge. Finn is a traitor who betrayed Phasma, as the head of the Stormtrooper program.

Oh look, it's easy, you fuckin' nard.

>>51636023
>She's still the littlest sister in the Incom family to me. Kuat-built my ass.
Look at all the junk in her trunk, man. That ass is Kuat.

>>51636073
>I know, but are they still not usually the least at risk out of their unit or whatever in the fuck we call them now?
Company, captains lead companies in general.

Within that company they can do as they like, throughout history there have been captains to prefer to take a step back and those who prefer to take a run forward.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Fenton_Aylmer,_13th_Baronet#The_Victoria_Cross

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>>51636037
>Why would a Commander single-handedly sabotage an AT-AT?
He was a Jedi, perfectly capable of kicking ass on foot, shot down, and close enough to do something about it. In the Rebel Alliance, Commander is still a frontline combat rank.

>>51636096
The program was under Hux not Phasma, why would she care about one stormtrooper who killed maybe 5 others before escaping with the best pilot in the resistance? He had done nothing to her directly TR-8R or FN-idfk was a squadmate and thus had a personal grudge.
>>51636143
So it's apparently her preference to lead her company from safety.

>>51635896
???

Captains in regular forces typically command a company (multiple platoons). In special operations and intelligence, they head up teams (usually 8-15 individuals). In the Air Force, they're often flight leaders (lead the flight of four aircraft); it's typically the lowest rank for the commander of a transport aircraft as well.

Captains do a lot of work, man.

>>51635997
That's Light Bird these days. Full Birds are normally tied to TOCs and AOCs, but Light Birds get to run TFs and a forward-deployed battalion.

I always wonder at people who don't have the slightest idea of how military rank structure works. Somebody should write a Wikipedia entry about it.

>>51636186
Air force never counts, man, never, we're talking regular Army, or Marines which is the two closest branches we have to what a Stormtrooper would be.

>>51635770
What happens with Human/Zabrak? An extra heart is a huge deal.

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>>51634761
That's why you take Biggs. Or Not. The runner up at worlds had a 52 point Miranda. So it clearly is a very good build if you know how to use her.

>>51635679
Rogue One might actually be the best Star Wars thing ever. So I'm willing to give Disney a lot of slack for their other bullshit because of it.

>>51635844
Child soldiers are a thing anon. Especially in a war as brutal as the Clone War.

Otherwise: the tugboat continues to be awesome. Unkar is now I think the best blocker in the whole game. I made a Dengar have zero agility, it was a thing of beauty.

>>51636220
>Muh real military
>Star Wars

Dude it's about baroque space opera not muh tacticool operators. This is a series where jedi lead a bunch of clones on open terrain into a hail of blaster fire or a gambler guy who just betrayed several important rebel leaders is put in charge of the biggest space assault in the history of the Alliance

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>>51630707
>Reminder: taking money from droids is like picking it up off the ground.
>Property doesn't own anything

A droid has five gold kublars. I take them. I now have five gold kublars, and the droid is unlikely to tell me it has money ever again.

A droid has five gold kublars. I take them as an installment on a (fictitious) "spirituality module". Every week, the droid brings me five more gold kublars.

Reliable income is almost always better than single payments.

>>51636186
>That's Light Bird these days. Full Birds are normally tied to TOCs and AOCs, but Light Birds get to run TFs and a forward-deployed battalion.

Nah, homes. I think what anon meant--- and he's right-- is that Captains are the last level you hit before you become "field grade" and get put into a super-safe COC or TOC somewhere. I've seen a light "in the suck" only a handful of times, and he was basically doing morale tours of our FOB. Other than that, all Majors and above were ensconced safely in the COC, where there was heating, running water, working plumbing, and plenty of fortifications.

Our CO, though? Slept in the cold with the rest of us. If he slept at all.

Anyway, personal anecdotes aside, Captains are basically it before you get pushed off to be staff somewheres else. You may be forward deployed but you're not going to be shooting at anyone.

>>51636299
>Caysin Bog

How terrifying holy shit

Which epic ship should I get first? I only play scum but the C-ROC isn't out yet

>>51636310
>>51636186
I'm talking from the prospective of a very amateur British military enthusiast, one who has admittedly always had trouble with rank responsibilities and roles.

>>51636292
There are a lot of more mature moments in Star Wars, never mind that "tacticool" operators is what the other anon brought up, special forces is literally "muh tacticool" operators operating operationally. I simply asked a question that started a discussion. and that question is why would a Captain of Phasma's obvious esteem and seeming experience be on the frontlines, fight a grudge match with a fresh out of training grunt instead of FN-2199 aka TR-8R?

>>51636335
Roofoo? That's the pseudonym of Dr. Evazan. AKA, Mr. "I have the death sentence in twelve systems."

>>51636299
K-OHN wouldn't be property so I dunno what that guy is on about. Credits are credits.

>>51636409
AND you see him briefly there too... Jesus, dude, that's pretty horrifying.

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>>51636359
What do you want to use it for?

Generally the Rebel Transport and Raider are the ones that come with stuff you actually want for the regular game. Running X-wings effectively basically mandates that you get a Transport, ditto the TIE Advanced.

The CR-90 and Gozanti generally don't, and I wouldn't recommend picking them up unless you want to actually play epic games.

Since you only play Scum, I really don't think there's much on offer for you there.

Epic ships tend to be pretty self-sufficient purchases, and virtually everything you would want in them only benefits their faction. Only the mod cards in the Gozanti are "fixes" of a sort, and it looks like the C-ROC comes with them again.

So, I'd recommend not if you truly only play Scum. The C-ROC should be out in 4-6 months.

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>>51636438
That's not all he did

>>51636310
>>51636390
Then again, no matter how high you get there's always a few mad bastards desperate to get stuck in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jock_Campbell_(British_Army_officer)#Second_World_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._Jones#Falklands_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clifford_Coffin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Henry_Percy#Military_career_and_Crimean_War

Alright /swg/, give me your best, your weirdest, your coolest ideas for droid characters and NPCs.

>>51636511
>jock Campbell
Sweet fuck what an absolute madman.

I believe there's also a story about the Canadian commander at the Fall of Hong Kong who, seeing that things had fallen apart beyond repair, stormed out of the bunker with a pistol in either hand shouting "I'll see if I can't hold them for a bit, boys."

EOTE Newbie here, for EotE Slicer tree, do i need to get all of the left column to get to the rest of the tree?

>>51635259
Cheaper, less crew, easier to find replacement parts (just rip apart an old z-95), smaller size, faster sublight speed, faster hyperspace, better handling

>>51636692
To get a talent, you need only one connecting talent. If a talent isn't connected to any other, you can buy it right away. Welcome to my favourite roleplaying system!

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Species: the Renlars

This is not canon. Feel free to adapt it to EoTE or something and post the results.

Renlars are bipedal scaled sentients. The have flat, wide faces and large mouths filled with peg-like teeth. Completely filled - their tongues move between a maze of stumpy grey teeth like a snake through grass. Their eyes are small and dark and set very close together. They lack hair or visible ears. They are tall and broad, like a Wookie, but slightly bent. Their limbs are thinner than you might expect, and end in clusters of clawed digits.

Renlars, despite their fearsome appearance, are not monsters. The can speak Basic and pick up other languages given time. They resort to violence no more than your average sentient. If provoked, they will happily claw you apart, but who wouldn't? They favour robust, high-powered weapons adapted for their hands and eyes. Renlars find work in many industries, but are rarely pilots. They get dizzy easily and they tend to break control sticks when stressed.

All Renlars are mildly Force sensitive. They can sense, with remarkable detail, the emotions of other nearby Renlars. The emotions of other species are mysterious to them. They either feel nothing, or interpret strong emotions as "noises" or "bad tastes". The fear, grief, rage, and love of other species have no effect on them, for the most part. The emotion they describe as "frustration of nearly completing a difficult math problem only to discover you have made a fundamental error" sounds like pleasant brass bells. Many Renlars enjoy visiting universities. The wealthiest of their species keep court mathematicians, who are brought out for display purposes when other Renlars are visiting, and are otherwise used as alarm clocks or background entertainment. Renlars do not believe that their abilities are supernatural.

Renlars do, however, have supernatural beliefs. They are all firmly convinced of the existence of ghosts.

>>51636185
The program genuinely was under Phasma, who was under Hux.

>>51636742
So yes. alright thanks bud.

>>51636750
>Completely filled - their tongues move between a maze of stumpy grey teeth like a snake through grass.

This made me both incredibly uncomfortable and very aware of what my tongue was doing in my mouth.

>>51636750
I like this.

>>51636773
She still wouldn't have a reason to confront him directly as he was just another faceless grunt, one on one, she'd likely have wrecked his ass worse than FN2199 did.

>>51636750
Custom races? Creativity? More of this please!

I'll post something too maybe when I've got enough fluff to post.

>>51636776
Woah, looking at the slicer tree for the first time, that has to be some kind of mistake. That is the most pants on head retarded shit I've ever seen.

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>>51636829

Ooh, I have a custom race!

Reylos. They're lanky humanoids with pale skin and oddly shaped bodies. Despite their appearance, they give off strong pheromones that affect the weak minded, causing them to helplessly worship the Reylo and aid in their mating.

These hangers-on go as far as to suckle from the Third Teat of Dysnee, a ritual that encourages the spread of the Reylo pheromones throughout their home sector of Tumblur and beyond.

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>>51636750
Renlars believe that, when a sentient creature is killed, they linger as a spirit. This spirit is usually quite weak. It will follow the person who killed it around and bother them in their dreams, spoil their eggs, spill their yeggis, and make their shots miss.

This doesn't happen to other species, because other species aren't interesting enough to follow. Only Renlars are haunted. The kills of other species just hang around or dissipate.

There is a way to avoid being haunted. Renlars must - and this is a "must", they'll do their best and will be very unhappy if prevented - eat the flesh of a creature they've killed. They are permitted to cook it, transport it, or delay up to six hours. If they don't, the spirit will haunt them. They eat so that the spirit can enter the Renlar's "spirit-bladder" or "-gland", and reside there in comfort and happiness.

You see, Renlars believe that they are so excellent and blessed that ghosts /really/ want to be part of them and help, and, if a ghost is prevented from doing so, they curse the Renlar who spurned them.

The idea of what counts as a "kill" is nebulous. A Renlar who blows up three Stormtroopers with a grenade need only eat one bit of flesh - their deaths were linked, producing an aggregate (and more potent) ghost. The same thing would apply if a Renlar shot down a starship.

For a fee, Renlar shamans will dismiss your ghosts. Powerful shamans can even talk to them, or convince them to enter your spirit-gland, or turn your own ghosts against you. They are widely feared.

The only Jedi to study the Renlars reported, in a very terse letter, that they are "most likely correct" about being haunted, although "they seem to be doing it to themselves."

Renlar shamans, upon hearing of the destruction of Alderaan, created a secret monastery. For a fee they will resettle ghosts of you choice on the "ghost" of Alderran (planets, some starships, and occasionally droids also have ghosts).

>>51634855
Rebel TIES is the stupidest fucking idea and you're a fucking idiot for trying to push it.

>>51636938
When making such vicious assertions, you should really try to explain your position so that people don't dismiss you out of hand.

>>51636952
Plenty of evidence was given, the /co/mblr cupcake kept persisting.
Also, go fuck yourself, too.

>>51636062
>Yeah, I have to headcanon that as her not believing the base could be threatened

Honestly, this is probably what she thought. The Resistance would have been fucked if Han and pals didn't fuck up the oscillator from within.

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>>51636926
Renlars didn't have an afterlife, unless haunting someone was part of it, until they found out about Alderaan.

A ghost planet full of pacifists sounds like an excellent place for a Renlar to spend the afterlife, eating other ghosts, building cities, or raising clutches of ghost-eggs.

Renlars are monogendered. They can produce eggs (by vomiting them up). The eggs are delicious - Renlars don't have a problem with you eating their eggs, provided you don't have a problem with you eating them. Cannibalism in Star Wars is kind of a grey area. Most people are too busy to wonder if their dinner's last words were "Moo!" or "I swear, I've got the money!")

In any case, if properly incubated, a new Renlar will hatch in about sixteen days. They take years to grow to full sentience and ability, and they smell like ammonia and seaweed for the first decade of their long, scaly lives.

If a Renlar really likes you, you might be asked to "contribute" to their egg. They don't want anything liquid or soluble in benzene from you, so this isn't the usual "contribution". Hair, nail clippings, or dried slime-flakes will work. The items will be swallowed and incorporated into the baby Renlar's head-crest, which falls off once they break free of the egg. There's no limit on the number of "contributors", so a Renlar might ask several close friends or lovers for assistance.

"You must have had a mighty head-crest," is a Renlar way of saying, "You are awfully big."

>>51636507
Dude had weird kinks.

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>>51636777
Oh good. That's the plan.

>>51636798
Thanks.

>>51636829
Less is more, if it's evocative. I don't listen to my own advice.

Hey, /swg/, I've never run a Star Wars campaign before, and while I plan to choose the system to use later, I still need to make a main antagonist for the party to deal with.

I want to make him a force user, but not explicitly a sith or jedi, something more like someone who's naturally attuned to the force from a young age, and just sorta develops the skill from there on one of the most backwater planets to ever exist.

Should I make him a human, or should I have him be some other species? I also think that he'll likely only use the force, and not have a melee weapon.

>>51636960
I should have to go sifting through an old thread to find validation for your angst? New thread, reiterate your point. Getting mad and making insults on the Internet is the domain of children.

>go fuck yourself
>muh tumblr
>cupcake
It makes sense then.

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>>51637129
Okay.

So.

How do you feel about crazy space wizards.

And I mean full on "Appear in a puff of smoke and cackle wildly and wave your arms around and people start dying" space wizards.

Because that's the Sorcerers of Tund.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sorcerers_of_Tund

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>>51637129
I posted a bunch of ideas last thread.

>>51602374

As for the human vs not thing...

It depends. What aspects are you going for here? Sympathy? Cruelty? Near-human mockery? Fear? What emotional or thematic notes do you want to hit?

>>51637129
There's a dozen non-Jedi/Sith Force organizations, religions, cults, and groups. Your antagonist could easily be one of those.

Alternatively, you might want to take inspiration from the character Kar Vastor in Stover's book Shatterpoint. He was a Force sensitive boy who was the sole survivor of an attack on his clan and was left on his own in a very, very dangerous jungle. Against all odds, and trading the majority of his humanity to gain access to greater proficiency in a very feral affinity for the Force, he successfully made his way back to civilization. It took a year.

As an adult, he is powerful enough to cure would-be-fatal disease by parasitic insect larvae out of brains, talk telepathically, and beat Mace Windu in a fistfight. He's incredibly dangerous.

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>>51636292
I guess you never play RepComm?

>>51637283
That ain't real Star Wars, boy. Git that Traviss-inspired shit outta my thread.

>>51637223
Honestly, there's more like a hundred named Force traditions in Legends, and realistically any decently populated planet/home planet of any species that can have Force sensitives probably has some local tradition.

Kar Vastor was actually someone I was going to mention, but then I remembered that he used those shields with sharpened edges for weapons.

Also, he was supposed to be a HUGE motherfucker.

>>51637304
>That ain't real Star Wars, boy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz3wpkCt2Ms

>>51637304
>Traviss-inspired
Don't put the shitty cart in front of the badass horse, anon.

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>>51637202
I do like the Space Sorcerer idea, but you've got to make it properly weird and mythic. Everything is "normal", but with some theatrical fire effects from the scenery, until the Sorcerer Supreme curses one of the PCs... and they start oozing black blood from their eyes and ears.

Shit like: http://goblinpunch.blogspot.ca/2015/01/loot-from-beyond.html

>>51637310
Yeah, but we can skip the teardrop shield things, and replace it with... I dunno, anything.

There's something in the Rogue One Visual Guide that I find particularly interesting:

>Guch Ydroma
>Ydroma claims to have been touched by the god of his Phirmist beliefs during a desert pilgrimage, and gifted with the mystical ability to summon water. He has visited the many temples of the Holy City of Jedha and brought forth water "as if from the air itself," sealing the liquid bounty into bottles marked with the temple name. He sells these bottles to believers and the thirsty alike.

So this guy, apparently, can use the Force do act like some sort of moisture vaporator, enough to make a living filling and selling water bottles with it.

>>51637283
Please don't remind me of the greatest tragedy of the Star Wars universe. May Sev live on forever in the hearts and minds of all the good people.

>>51637283
thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEJP3y7QLPA

>>51634855
>Raiding supply depots for arms, ammo, and other equipment, as well as scavenging it off the battlefield, are all good sources of materiel.
Rebels stealing a crate of E-11 blasters then tossing it into a light freighter as it jumps to lightspeed away from Imperial rapid response reinforcements is vastly different from stealing: a Tie fighter, the fuel, and all the maintenance equipment needed to keep just one of the things operational before the Imperials reinforce their supply depot and shoot down the fighters incapable of jumping to lightspeed.

Also tracking devices.

This whole Rebel tie fighters topic reminds me of Captain America's obsession with collecting AKs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFLqya9_Ikk

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>>51637352
Who says it's the Force?

I mean, sure, it might be, but it could be something else entirely. The galaxy is a big place.

Maybe there really is a Phirmist god, and he wants Guch Ydroma to have water.

>>51637388
It's the Force.

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>>51637398
Ok, so, /you/ say it's the Force. And the Jedi would say that too.

But on Ronto Seven, they'd say that the Force is just an aspect of the All Consuming Serpent, whose body contains us all.

And their neighbors, the Equilox, believe that the All-Consuming Serpent is really another name for the Mystic Brain Dimension, where all brains go to live in harmony or disharmony.

The Force is just one explanation for "shit we can't explain."

But people do explain it.

>>51637442
Yes, I understand that. But we see the Force working exactly as it's supposed to, on time, pretty much every time, from trained Jedi and Sith. Their methods can be duplicated and performed by others.

As much as it's mystical in fluff, it's science from an outside point of view. Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Anakin all learn how to become incorporeal and go to the Afterlife of the Force.

This isn't some "one possibility in many" shit anymore. The Force is the real deal. We don't need to speculate that some god exists because some guy does something "unnatural."

Yeah, he thinks he was given a gift from his god. But he fuckin' used the Force.

>>51637442
>look at me, I make things up because nothing real supports my argument

>>51637442
Ashla, Bogan, the Current, All-Consuming Space Serpent, Space Jesus, these are all different names for the same thing. They are all the Force, regardless of what people call it.

>>51637202
Ooh, that's cool as shit, thanks for pointing me toward them.

>>51637213
I want to have the sort of character that thinks he's superior to everything, simply because he's never met another force user before. Digging the whole 'cackling wizards' angle from the SoT, though it might be a bit loud. Perhaps something along the lines of someone who considers himself more a force of nature or deity rather than just another force-user.

>>51637223
Also cool as fuck, thanks.

With all of this, it's making me think that he should be something like an attempted tyrant on his home-moon/planet, possibly a successful one. Make his own shitty Empire and whatnot.

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>>51637500
Well, nothing really supports the argument that Guch Ydroma doesn't get his water from a tap, like everyone else. He might just by lying and preying on believers.

But clearly, there are believers in the Phirmist god. "Ancient religion" and all that - there's more than one ancient religion out there. Most of them are probably fakes, but some of them might be aspects of the Real Deal.

You could have a Force-enhanced priesthood that calls on "divine powers". Are they wrong? It only works because they believe it. There's probably not some fat bearded dude on a cloud, but confabulated religions with multiple avenues to "the Truth" is very in-setting.

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>>51637521
Exactly. But the Force is just another name. It's not nessesarily a "closer" truth, just a more abstract (and effective) one. It all depends on your point of view.

>>51637442
Yay for unexplained mysticism in Star Wars!!
>>51637496
>>51637500
>>51637521
Well aren't you guys fun and open.

Also a race idea; the Gen-Laiin.

A heavy-set race of vaguely catfish-esque aliens with gently glistening skin, these creatures evolved on a world with naturally occurring energy weapons in some of it's wildlife, such as the deadly Laserhawk and nigh legendary Khyber Dragons (I did take a lot of inspiration from laserhawk-anon) that roam their world, leading their hides to develop a flexible crystalline structure which is known to be exceptionally resilient to modern blaster weaponry.

These beings, though clearly sentient in having an advanced starfaring society, are routinely hunted for their hide, which is highly valued by criminal organisations for it's glossy sheen and protective qualities.

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>>51637526
>himself more a force of nature or deity rather than just another force-user.

Pretending to be a god is fantastic when you can actually back it up.

Maybe he floats around, Magneto-style, like some sort of dark messiah. He attracts followers wherever he goes, such is his charisma and power.

His abilities are unnatural. He can reach into your body and pull out your soul. It looks like a tiny screaming maggot made of fog. He eats them or keeps them in jars.

He can't forsee your death, but he can forsee the moment or moments you will beg for death.

If he closes his eyes and exhales, he can put out every light in a twenty mile radius.

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>>51637571
But anon, you do not realize... I was lazerhawk-anon the whole time.

Dun dun dun.

I like the Gen-Laiin. Maybe they get quite offended and wear humanoid-leather cloaks made of faces on special occasions.

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Looks like the YT-2000 is canon again.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/YT-2000_light_freighter/Canon

>>51637620
He's been around a long time, and at this point has amassed enough of a following to create an independent government on his homeworld.

With a flare for the more unnatural approach to things, he makes every fight and execution more intimidating and flashy than the last, and due to this constant workout of his powers he grows in strength faster than most do, seeing just what he is capable of.

Different clans/collectives/factions on his homeworld all call him different names, but they all just roughly translate to "God of Destruction."

I really like this. Someone who's born with immense force-potential trains himself through sheer will, becoming what the people of his home consider the avatar of a god of war or destruction.

>>51637496
>>51637500
>>51637521
What we see in the movies and books is what is prevalent in the galaxy.

The Jedi/Sith are the prevalent force users in the galaxy.

Therefore, we refer to everything as the Force, because that's the lense we see the Star Wars universe through.

>>51635896
Think its mostly because sci-fi writers forget Lt's exist in a lot of settings.

But in real world deployments- your mileage may vary as does the simple fact of luck, force composition and just how much contact you end up collecting during certain types of jobs. In Iraq as a captain I took a lot more contacts than any of my previous tours dragging some EOD/response guys from one crazy shitfest to another and our escorts where just not up to scratch, plus my Lt's where not experienced in combat and did need that bit of extra help keeping their shit together. Think the saving grace for a lot of those guys was the NCO's being utterly fearless, angry fuckers that where super aggressive when they needed to be which the rest of the teams just latched onto.

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>>51637689
It's also killing him.

The Dark Side tends to wither and twist its users. Channeling the antithesis of life does not lead to a healthy skin tone. He's rotting, slowly, and desperate for a cure.

But he'd rather die in a blaze of glory than bow. He will claw the your secrets from the curdled matter of your brain and the - oh yes - he will live forever.

>>51637739
Hm, this makes me think, is there any way to vampirize someone's life-force or whatever using the dark side?

>>51637785
>, is there any way to vampirize someone's life-force or whatever using the dark side?
Yes, but it doesn't reverse the effects or buy you more time.
There's no reason this guy would know that, though

>>51637785
TCW Season 6 has Mother Talzin and a different cult of dark side users literally steal the Living Force out of people. In fact, Mother Talzin herself isn't a "natural" Force user - she got the ability to use the Force through a similar ritual, taking in the Living Force stolen from someone else.

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>>51637785
Yes.

There might also be a canon way, but drinking someone's life essence isn't a Dark Side thing, I don't know what is.

Wrote a bit about it here >>51602444

Maybe the PCs are the ones who tell him about the idea, by accident. He thinks it's a great idea. They... didn't intend for that to happen.

>>51637693

>Think its mostly because sci-fi writers forget Lt's exist in a lot of settings.

Everyone forgets about Lts. It's in the job description.

>>51637806
Even if it doesn't extend his life, it would still be some terrifying shit.

Okay, so personality-wise, I imagine something like your stereotypical overlord-vader style guy, until he's angered, at which point he get very loud and very physical/forceful.

Perhaps a race based on Mandrills, simply for the head/face style would be good? Should he wear a mask?

>>51637836
I need to finish TCW, I lost the steam about a season in.

>>51637847
Oh, that's probably going to happen. The players I have in mind aren't great with keeping cats in bags.

>>51637785

That one dude from KOTOR 2 did exactly that, no?

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>>51637857
You just need to bait your players eeeeeever so subtly in the right direction. Get them talking about "unnatural" techniques when they think he's not listening.

Of course he's listening.

He's always listening.

And yeah, draining someone's life is going to be a messy process. You think electrifying someone's skeleton is painful? This is worse.

>>51637865

One of the guys from the Cantina could pull that stunt. He was an Anzat, wasn't he?

>>51637879
It isn't hard to get them talking, in past experience they all really like to try and guess what the enemy's doing based on a few actions.

Imagine the displays of power he puts on. Everyone's just walking about, minding their own business, when suddenly a known dissenter who was normally left alone gets compressed into a small ball of gore. Nobody even sees where the antagonist is, they just know he's around.

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More species!

This is not canon.

Dengo Dengo

A few centuries ago, Dengo Dengo, warlord of the Seventeen Beautiful Worlds, richest man in the Outer Rim, decided he would live forever.

He summoned the finest geneticists and cloners in the galaxy to his lair. If they completed his grand design they would inherit vast wealth and immeasurable prestige. If they failed, he would feed them to his pet Zenshredders millimetre by millimetre. Zenshredders, by some trick of fate, also shred the blood relatives of their victims, so the threat was particularly ironic, given Dengo Dengo's project.

Mere clones would not satisfy the warlord. He wanted improved creatures, freed from baldness, liver spots, paunch, palsy, and the other vicissitudes of biology.

After years of hideous failures, the cloners finally produced a few "workable" specimens, grey-skinned demigods with perfect features and elegant poise. Dengo Dengo tossed them into a plasma furnace and demanded "better".

Eventually, the addled cloners created specimens that pleased the warlord. They were functionally immortal, incredibly strong, beautiful - to Dengo Dengo's slightly unusual standards - quick-witted, quick-handed, immune to most diseases, blessed with a host of digestive extras and healing improvements. They could bleed bacta... or poison.

Satisfied, Dengo Dengo unleashed his creations by dropping them off on every civilized world he could find. He died rich, happy, and syphilitic.

The Dengo Dengo are now a species. They breed true - children, from most humanoid species, will be Dengo Dengos invariably, carrying none of the mother's traits. They dislike each other, but love company and adoration. Their drive to procreate is strong and they are, it is said, excellent lovers, but they are terrible parents and tend to abandon their offspring to seek new mates on new worlds. Some Dengo Dengo strive against this with sterilization surgeries or raw effort. They seek to redeem the reputation of their species.

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>>51637961
Or he just falls over dead. That's often creepier - no splash. Just... dead. Scooped out of life.

Or someone praying at a shrine rise with new purpose, and greets the PCs with secrets.

Or an assassin is forced to carve apart her own body in front of the god-king, piece by piece. There is no mind control. The assassin fears a worse fate. She's right.

>>51637847
>Everyone forgets about Lts. It's in the job description.
It's not that everybody forgets, they're just always fucking lost

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>>51638097
God, that would be great. God-kings are fun.

As for a name, I think maybe K'ngoh would work?

Or perhaps that'd be a species name for whatever he is, if he's a non-human. I really want to make him sorta mandrill-esque simply because their skulls and faces are kinda horrifying normally, imagine a decaying one.

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>>51638074
Dengo Dengo can always find work at a brothel, provided they've been sterilized. They're an exotic delight for generations that have been raised to fear their ever-so-flattering attentions.

They make decent bounty hunters, but poor soldiers, as their ambition outstrips their skill. The Empire tried recruiting them but after a few high-profile incidents cancelled the entire initiative.

There are rumours that Dengo Dengo, the warlord, implanted secret genetic information-nodules in his creations. Those that become architects do seem to love designing grand, palace-like structures. They all know how to fly a Tyberon Mark Seven Starfighter, even though there are three existent models, all in museums. When probed by a Force-user, they naturally think the Deadly Thoughts, mind-forms that can kill both the seer and the victim.

The gene-coding isn't perfect either. One in a hundred Dengo Dengo's is born twisted and monstrous, and even advanced medical techniques cannot save their unraveling forms. They can live for centuries, but sometimes die suddenly and without warning, dissolving into slime and noxious gasses.

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>>51638144
They aren't lost. The world just needs to sort it shit out, goddamn it.

>>51638276
That sounds like something a lost LT would say
>That pic

You can tell us if you're lost in the sauce, LT.

>>51638074
>>51638256
This race broke as fuck in terms of balance, but is nonetheless quite interesting.

Seems like an amalgamation of the Space Jockeys, Asari, and Horatio from ES2 to me. Am I right?

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>>51638299
I am not lost. It's just all this shit is disorganized, you know. Fuck!

Anyway, what time are we supposed to be leaving?

>>51638324
Just put it 45 minutes before the last word you heard, sir. Just to be safe. The guys won't mind being up at 0330 so we can eventually leave at 1100.

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>>51638304
A lot of this stuff is propaganda. They heal faster an are fairly fit and athletic, but nothing that would shock you. Plus, they're lazy. If you could naturally jump a meter in the air and lift three times your own weight, you wouldn't bother working out or training. It all averages out in the end.

And it's a mix of... well, a lot of stuff. I don't really keep track of my inspiration sources, and it's not /hideously/ original, so yeah, you are probably right. I have no idea what those references are though if that helps.

>>51638324
Shit, does anybody have a spare 9-line card?

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>>51638346
Right, so, uh...

Uh....

What's forty-five less than 1430?

Ah fuck it. We'll do 1200.

And we'll do it completely tactical.

>>51638376
YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT SHIT MEMORIZED FUCKIN' BOOT I TOLD YOU T-- oh wait, it's L-T? Oh. Here you go, sir. (...boot)

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I'm just imagining this occurring in a clone division.

"Did you know that they remove part of your brain when you make Lt? They replace it with a chip that just screams all the time."

"Nah, see, I heard the Jedi mind trick you into believing you're a Gronx. After six weeks eating grass and shitting yourself, you're ready for promotion."

"Lads... we're all identical. How does this make any sense?"

"Some of us are more identical than others, sir."

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Were the clone troopers sterile? I know there is some shit in Legends that says they weren't. but I don't know if it was ever addressed in nucanon.

>>51638397
I was a cadet for a year and change (before deciding on getting my degree, enlisting and going for OCS instead).
The dumb shit you'd hear from even the 3rd and 4th year cadets made my fucking head spin.
>Be point on an FTX lane
>Sign: 1 opfor, ~400 meters, 12 O'clock
> "what the fuck are we stopped for? keep moving"
>Keep moving, signalling every few meters
>PL marches us (with ruck on) directly on top of the opfor

I think that guy branched Infantry or Engineer

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>>51638513
Could be worse. Could have happened thirty miles out of Kandahar, in the middle of the night. But that's neither here nor there.

>>51638586
Could be wrong but I think he's focusing on the target, not the reticle/sights.

>>51638504

Clone Wars showed that they weren't.

A clone deserter banged a twi-lek and had half twi-lek half Jango babies.

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>>51638603
That implies he had had at least one eye open.

>>51638513
We had an LT stop our squad leader in the middle of a "live" op (the squad was actually engaging the opfor) to chew him out for not having a radio pouch, and carrying his radio in his dump pouch. The squad got wiped out by the opfor and the squad leader cussed the LT out, almost got NJP'd and a rule was made that nothing could be carried in the dump pouch. Ah, good training.

All that being said, stupid shit happens because of stupid people. Thankfully none of it happened on deployment.

>>51638633
>ib4 "not confirmed" crowd gets here

I think you're right.

>>51638661
>stupid shit happens because of stupid people. Thankfully none of it happened on deployment
I've heard horror stories about deployed NG units. But this isn't really the place. Already too much of a tangent as it is.

>>51638633
>>51638671

Pablo Hidalgo said that while the kids were half human, Cut wasn't the father

>>51638727
I guess they should have called him Cuck instead of Cut, huh?

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>>51638727
>In the distance, a faint "cucking" can be heard, like a flock of chickens growing closer

Anon... what have you done? They'll be upon us soon.

>>51634068
Am I the only person who liked the d20 Star wars system, pre-Saga edition?

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>>51638746
>>51638757
My God, they're quick. We are already lost.

If you see your wife, tell her I love her.

>>51638768
No, anon, I liked it too.

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>>51638768
>>51638787

>>51638774
>more jedi concept art

They're dead, get over it.

>>51638860
Actually I think this was supposed to be the Princess of a new major faction that LF was toying around with.

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>>51638860
>>51638872
Both incorrect. It's just concept art for an ILM art contest. The "major faction" was made up for the contest. Sorry.

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>>51638902
Right. The "Danji."

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X-Wing players are asleep, post concept art

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>>51639154
Oh fine.

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>>51639154
I love this one.

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>>51639246
The artist got so much right. The contrast between the gut-less foreground character and the bloated orange guy. The orange guy's gun. The weird limp-haired guy with that simpering "I'm a cackling advisor" grin. The droid wiht the unique but instantly recognizable face. And the weird centaur-lady to the left holding an egg or something, All mysterious and excellent. Even the lighting is in-setting.

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>>51639287
This one is good, too. It's interesting how similar this looks to Jyn's outfit. Nailed the aesthetic.

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>>51637847
>Everyone forgets about Lts. It's in the job description.

Foreign military must different. Mine was overpaid, over-educated CO's chew toy and widely hated by everyone.
So just sign my shit up for that business

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>>51639154
Did somebody say "X-Wing players" and "concept art?"

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>>51639378
Oh God no...

>>51639378
>tfw we only got a third of these tie experimentals

Number 12 and 6 look pretty good

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>>51639378
Oh dear god...

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>>51639378

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We're now Raith Approved™

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>>51639398
I like how the text is in slightly broken, panicked English. It's like it's being sold by a used car salesman in Bangalore or explained by a very frazzled Republic engineer.

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>>51639398
>>51639407
God can't help you now.

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>>51639399
I agree, but the TIE Bomber is already the missile-launcher TIE. And the bomb dropper TIE.

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>>51639444
Not concept art, but I don't care. This one's worse and I haven't seen it in these threads before.

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>>51639465
Here's a Legends-worthy fan creation from an XWA forum. Three turbolasers. It's almost as good as that one anon's TIE Hetzer. Almost.

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>>51639475
So they ran out of spice and just moved onto the draino

>>51639465
I kinda hate that the Empire has all these wacky and sometimes awesome variants and experimentals and Rebels get boring shit like 10 functionally identical headhunters and an orange B-wing

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Wheeeee....

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>>51639511
Ah, but the Rebels get Uglies.

>>51639511
Most of these wacky designs are fanmade.

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And the Imperials get... things like this, sometimes.

>>51639511
Legends Rebels got shit like the T-wing, M-class, H-wing, and Tempest. Uglies, too, if you were feeling kinky.

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>>51639378
What the HELL is that thing on the bottom right?

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>>51639587
>front bit says "Death from above"
A TIE-shaped guided missile and/or a very large marital aid.

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>>51639512
I really like that design

>>51639601
Raith Seinar might be the most terrifying man in the galaxy. He goes to jail, right? Like, someone eventually stops him?

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>>51639642
The biplane look is neat.

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>>51639653
You tell me, anon. You tell me.

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>>51639653
Who do you think cooked up this nightmare for the First Order?

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>>51639653
We /tried/ to put him in jail.

The... thing he turned his cell into is now the core of the Imperial atmospheric defense force.

>>51639681
"Hey, what's that giant plate doing blocking the cockpit there?"

"Oh, nothin'. It ain't a problem, really. We only turn left."

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>>51639653
He gets murdered by Santhe in the legends- but they're not canon any more so effectively he lives forever now

>>51634653
The rebels don't have any fleet bases, so mostly I think they haul around parts and supplies, but in battle each one could have a specialty. This one a comunications center, that one cordinates starfighters, anouther jams the enemy. Support stuff.

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>>51639713
I mean, he lives forever either way.

>>51634656
She's the new Fet, they put her in because she looked cool, now they have to figure out what to do with her.

>>51639681
> CEC VCX-112 Superfreighter
Seems like the B-29 to the 100's B-17

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>It's like a TIE vampire bat!
>What's a bat?
>What's a vampire?

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>>51639740
Don't know that model, it does look very angry and fast though

>>51639745
Wait, wait, wait. I have an idea.

Imagine a gender-swapped army of Phasmaclones in the sequel prequels. Except we find out that Colonel Phasma was the original, and Captain Phasma is an unaltered clone of Colonel.

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>>51639781
>What's a bat?
You mean a hawk-bat?

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>>51639788
That would be silly.

You are silly.

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>>51639802
>Hawkbats
Yub yub, Commander.

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>>51639745
I know what I'd do with her

>>51635673
Reminder that new cannon saved star wars.

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>>51639802
Or a snake-bat?

Ooh, maybe the fearsome gronk-bat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D41SBcq1wYk
No, it just says... bat

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>>51639823
Don't take the fucking bait, anon. COME ON.

>>51639817
I liked the E-Wing, it's a shame no one in canon liked it. I never could figure out why they would force the ship to interface with an R7 when the NR still had a shitload of older astromechs.

>>51639544
What IS that??

>>51639869
see
>>51639601

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>>51639869
I don't know, but let's see how it does... on our track.

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>>51639653
>>51639673
>>51639685
>>51639688
>>51639713
>decide to read about Seinar on Wookieepedia
>turns out he was obsessed with capturing a living planet so that he could learn how to make starships faster
>turns out that planet was the homeworld of the Vong, or something

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>>51635679
Some species are "Near Human" meaning they are closely related to humans and can sometimes interbreed. In Legends the explination was that they were decended from early slower then light colonies that had millenia of seperation.

I have no Idea what evolution lead to brain tails but half Twi'lek war babies are adorable.

>>51639740
>Hey, hey Santhe! *sniiiiiff*
Ugh, what Raith? What.
>I've been thinkin'. *sniffle*
Of course. Wonderful. Sienar is thinking again.
>No NO NO LISTEN! Listen. You know the foldy-wing one? It has... the foldy, y'know, like...
The Lam-
>NO BALL COCKPIT HAVING PIECE OF KRIFFIN-
Raith. Calm down Raith. Breathe.
>RAAAAAAARRGHHH
Okay, maybe we'll switch to the sedatives, now, yes? Yes. I know what you're going to say, honestly. You wan-
>PUT A BALL ON IT! AND THE PANELS! AND MAKE IT FOLDY!
Look, we're on thin ice with-- Raith, put the blaster down! Stop! NO!

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>>51639895
Not sure if this is canon, but the way I've always thought about it is that there are no "humans".

You have people from some worlds that look pretty similar. Some of them, especially worlds that have been connected for millennia, are pretty homogenized. Core worlds are where you find most of the big "human" enclaves. These worlds are rich and send out colonies.

But everybody is an alien in Star Wars. On some worlds, you are likely to be the only one of your species, no matter what your species is. There are a few spectrums (the near humans, the near-whatevers), but they aren't called that in the setting. Everyone is just... from whatever world they are from. Or they're something weird, like the Dengo Dengo.

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>>51639929
>Well, it's still better than YOUR shit

>>51639890
DESU I'd pay a decent bit of money for Clarkson and the gang to do a series on TIE fighters and the -Wings. Would be so much fun.

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>>51639894
>Planet-sized TIE
God, I love Legends Sienar.

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>>51639953
Run it as a game.

Seriously. You've got a Wookie (Clarkson), a droid (May), and an Ewok (Hammond), along with a stormtrooper-like thing called the S.T.I.G (Storm Trooper Infantry Guy)

They go around stealing vehicles, reviewing them on the holonet, and bothering the locals.

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>>51639894
>turns out that planet was the homeworld of the Vong, or something

>Raith turns up to Vongsville
>Gets drunk, pisses on their sacred relics
>Makes jokes about how their shit's too slow
>Scampers back to his ship giggling like a mad cunt

Jihad declared

>>51639965
That would be hella fun! ...but I doubt I'd find players who'd want to do that, sadly. This concept is so awesome as a game concept though!

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>>51639993
Ah well. Up for online stuff? You could recruit in this very thread.

>>51640035

Jesus, it's like the TIE and the StarViper had a baby.

>>51639979

I'm not sure if that's a Super A or a Super Y, but do you think they gave it enough zoom?

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>>51640035
You'll certainly find plenty of Gearheads in /swg/.

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>>51640052
Ootini indeed.

Well, try recruiting. That's a good trick.

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>>51639955
>when you think about it, a planet is the greatest ball cockpit ever designed! We only need to figure out how solar panels fit into this...

>>51639979
>Seinar caused the Vong war
>The Vong regard Seinar as the human by which all other humans are compared

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzExFrZ9vX4

What is the AE86 of Star Wars?

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>>51640087
>We only need to figure out how solar panels fit into this...

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>>51640087
>Wait.

>Wait.

>You know about Dyson spheres?

>SEINAR Spheres! Solar panels on the inside AND on the outside. And we'll put the engines... the engines.

>The engines will ORBIT!

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>People sometimes ask me, "Wraith, are you crazy?" And I say, "That is a stupid question. You should ask, 'Are you crazy enough to save the Empire?' "

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>I call it... the Imperial Inquest
>Because people will always inquire "Which direction is up? Can it land? Where are the weapons? Why did you get red paint on the solar panels?"

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>I put the solar panels on the inside.
>I'm... honestly not sure why.

>>51636511
>>51636642
There was a biritsh officer in the gallipoli campain who told his superior something to the effect of "Should you order any further attacks I would feel obligated to lead them myself" implying if anymore men were sent to their deaths he was going to go die with them.

>>51634068
Anyone have the copy pasta on the force being Kantian and the like?

>>51636642
> Sweet fuck what an absolute madman.
It was a tragedy him dying just a few weeks after being given the 7th, he could well have gone on to become one of the legendary staff officers of the war.

>>51637496
Who says the " force" is even real as the Jedi say it is.

They could all just be genetic psychic precognitives who use the teachings as a focus and confuse it for a mystic truth.

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>>51640408
I'm not sure how useful that would be.

Its not like Lucas extensively studied philosophy. He extensively studied Flash Gordon, and that's a different sort of system.

I'd just pick whatever interpretation of the light, the dark, good, evil, and balance that you prefer, because you sure as hell aren't going to get a consistent answer out of canon.

>>51640488
Considering that force sensitivity is a thing and has been proven to be a genetically heiritable trait, this is just as likely to be the case.

Meaning the difference between sith and Jedi is literally just how they channel their psychic energy ( raw emotion or focus)

>>51640488
George Lucas does, and I believe Disney took all of his known work on the franchise as canon, did they not?

>>51639890
>>51639953
>CLAAAAARRKSON!

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>>51640715

anyone have the rogue one visual dictionary uploaded somewhere?

>>51640700
It's not raw emotion that powers the Sith, it is literally being driven solely by your negative emotions alone, Jedi can use their emotions to focus the force or to overpower a foe but they don't fall into the trap the Sith do out of self control, but the most powerful Jedi are powered by inner peace and serenity like Yoda.

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>>51640739
I've got bits and pieces downloaded, but I haven't found the whole thing. What do you need?

>>51640701
That's out of universe information, in universe it's identical.

Probably how they were so easy to dismiss the Jedi. Unless you were drinking the kool aide people could justify their ability with literally anything, it's also easier to digest than " touched by god" speel they give everyone.

>>51640765

I havent seen any of it before, so anything is new to me. Thanks

>>51640760
Doesn't actually refute the point he was trying to make.

They could all just be psychics with different methods to utilize their ability.

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>>51640801
Well, google will be your friend in that case. Sorry.

>>51640765

Not him but the TIE Fighter page if you have it, cargo shuttle, and krennic shuttle

>>51636170
Why didn't he just hop on a foot and cut through one of the legs? Anyone who says 'phrik' or 'cortosis' is wrong.

>>51636299
>K-OHN
So he plays in a high school band?

Do i miss anything special if I don't buy the original core set?
I bought the tfa one and I'm wondering if there is anything interesting in the core set that doesn't come with expansion packs

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>>51640839
Ever tried cutting down a tree. You don't hug the tree, or sit under the branches when it collapses. It's bad plan, and people on the ground can shoot you easily enough.

Plus, it's a big thumping footstep. It's hard to hold onto cold metal.

And it looked cooler for the movie.

>>51640944
Pretty much just Biggs and R2-D2

>>51640792
I was under the impression we didn't live in the Star Wars universe, so how is out of universe information less valuable than that from within?
>>51640811
I didn't say it refuted his^ point that the force could be called psychic abilities, I was calling out you specifically, not him, with that comment. His assertion that they could be called that is correct, but calling them that would be incorrect, they aren't psychic, they simply have access to zero-point energy through the midichlorians.

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>>51640831

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>>51640859

>>51636922
>Sacks of fat
>from their home sector Tumblr
You can't make this up

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>>51641415
STOP TAKING THE BAIT you fucking idiots.

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>>51641135

thanks bru, have some bodhi i got off tumblr

>>51641526
He's bait as well you fucktard.

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>>51641534

Was hoping for the Krennic shuttle infobox on Cyguns and the Tion lady.

When it comes to large and manned ships like Star Destroyers, do they get to fire all their guns in one turn?

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>>51641135

And the full TIE page has some interesting things about pilot training I think.