/swg/ Space Utes

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Also a neat submarine
If you ever want your characters to shit bricks, have them go underwater

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Second for crazy EU bullshit

>>51579687
Is this some kind of alternate universe shit, or did Yodas ghost get aboard a third Death Star?

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Since It'll be a while before I'll get to try it myself, I demand more tales of the space tractor.

>>51579845
Star Wars Infinities: A New Hope

Basically, the rebels fail to destroy the Death Star over Yavin.

>>51579746
>There weren't that many Nimitz built, you want something with more turnover and mass production.
That's fair.

>The number of Abrams
Are you seriously comparing the complexity of a star ship with tens of thousands of crew and accommodations for each to a tank with a crew of four?
62 Los-Angeles-class submarines were built, which are a meager 110m long.
The USS Honolulu (SSN-718) was laid down in 1981, commissioned 1985. That's still four years for something a fraction of the size and a fraction of the complexity.

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>>51578052
>>51578671
>>51579013

I mean, if they've got a Factorio-style ludicrously parallel resource processing, where ore becomes Star Destroyers in a more or less continuous path, it's not unfeasible.

Plus, robots. They work quickly and perfectly.

>>51579845
Here's the story in brief.
>Alternate timeline
>Lukes torpedoes blow up midway down to DS's reactor
>DS shoots at Yavin IV but doesntblowit up with first strike because laser got banged up a bit
>Second shot blows up the moon but rebels manage to flee
>Only to get captured
>Luke and Han manage to get away
>Luke is contacted by Bens force ghost who tells him to go to Dagobah
>Luke goes through his full training while Vader starts training Leia to become a force user
>Also he reveals to 3PO that he is his creator
>Han, Luke and Yoda team up and fly to Coruscant on an Imperial victory over rebellion anniversary
>Yoda goes to DS and mind controls Tarkin into flying the thing and starts shooting at the imperial fleet with the main laser
>Meanwhile Luke and Leia duel, Vader kills Palpatine when he starts electorcuting Vaders kids
>Vader dies and is left behind, Luke, Leia, droids and Han escape while Yoda J'edi ackbars the death star into Coruscant

>>51579938
Have you seen Star Wars, what makes you think that droids are particulerly efficient?

>>51580098
The droid factory on Genosis? Sure, the droids themselves weren't much, but the production line at least was quick.

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>>51580148
>>51580098

As far as I can tell, droids only develop personalities and the associated issues if you make them deal with situations outside of their programming.

If they never have to adapt or improvise or think laterally, they'll be perfectly efficient and pretty nearly mindless.

Robot construction workers building endless identical Star Destroyers, with no issues and no creativity, will do just fine.

>>51579687
That is some horrendous same-face.

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>>51577187
>>51577914
Remember that cargo hauler thing?

It's canon... ish.

http://4lomkuss.com/kenner-cameos-present-the-f-ler-the-yt-xc/

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>>51577664
Thank you, most honorable Sempai. Thank you for taking me on this most wonderful journey. There's just something so hilarious and wonderful about the earliest ideas for the EU. They were looking at it through such an innocent lens, at what Star Wars could be, rather than building upon the existing traditions. Hell, the concept of canon didn't even exist then, really.

>>51580401

Canon is mining the fuck out of old kenner toys.

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Best specialization is clearly gadgeteer. Worst is easily performer. Most underrated is arguably gambler. Best species is human/cerean while worst is the rest. Thank you for reading.

>>51581346
What's wrong with Gank?

Are you counting corellian and mango human with human?

>>51579620
I understand that this is a /v/ oriented post, but what if they made a star citizen style game, where you can be a spacer, a bounty hunter, a miner, slaver, etc. Will that be a good idea /swg/?

>>51581346
Rodian and Embo's species are pretty good, and Klatoonian is pretty good too. I would argue sullustan is one of the best pilot races.

Drall and chadra-fan are solid competitors to Cerean.

>>51581918
I would honestly want something free-roam like SWG, but with Star Citizen-type gameplay.

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>>51581346
Hi bait, nice to see you again.
>>51580560
This seems weird to me, because the Kenner toys were never that... amazingly well designed.

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>>51581918
Fun idea but very prone to being overscoped if you take things to space. It would probably be doable if the game world was kept to a planetary region somewhere between Vvardenfell and Daggerfall in terms of size.

>>51582023
My guess it's a peace offering to the grognards. They seem to be filtering back as many old vehicles and set pieces without altering the story.

>>51582023

Well, mostly it's for units in like, cheap mobile games or just in reference material. The only thing I think which has been very prominent is the Imperial Troop Transport in Rebels, and that actually is an okay design.

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Ok, time to trigger some autists.

And, to be fair, anyone blessed with the gift of sight.
>The definitive lightsaber of the Bladebuilders system provides kids with the unique components needed to create 100+ combinations from their imagination. The Jedi Master Lightsaber comes with a main Lightsaber featuring lights and sounds, two independently-lit lightdaggers, expansion hilt, two elbow connectors, dual connector, and cross connector. Combine with other Lightsabers in the BladeBuilders system (each sold separately) and imagine the thrill of battle with a custom Lightsaber! Requires three AAA batteries, included.

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>>51582292
That lightsaber is small-time.

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>>51582292
>Turn to the dark side with the Star Wars Bladebuilder Spin-Action Lightsaber and prepare to do battle against the Resistance fighters with just a flick of the wrist, or use the included lightdagger for close combat. Defend from every angle with the 360-degree spinning connector lightsaber hilt that sets this Bladebuilders lightsaber apart from any other!

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>>51582304

Son, these kits are modular.

You could build your own dual counter-rotating swastikasabers if you'd like.

>>51582320
>those cross and triple emitters
Gross.

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>>51582320
Did Sienar have something to do with this?

Will we ever know?

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>>51582346
Oh, you ain't seen nothing yet.


I was going to encourage /tg/ to construct their own hideous lightsaber-hamstertubes, but the official photos are as awful as anything we could invent.

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>>51582370
>Sienar
If Sienar was involved, we'd see TIE panel shields included in the package.

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>>51582405
>>51582346
What could possibly be worse than the spinning Inquisitor sabers?

This.

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>>51582430

There are no words...

>>51582467
You know, I could really go for a lightsaber trident.

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>>51582467
We need to go crazier. Someone call Bloodborne's dev team. We need to use that lightsaber kit as a stepping stone to ever more ludicrous bullshit.

Swg,

Lore question; How are ship weapons classified?

Ship scale blaster
Laser canon
Light turbo laser canon
Turbo laser
Heavy turbo laser

These may all be modified with macguffin ores and kyber crystals to be more powerful but they still fall into one of those five categories unless they are super weapons?

I have heard back and forth that all of them are actually plasma weapons that just use lasers to ignite the plasma but cant confirm...

I started down this rabbit hole because it always bothered me that star destroyer turrets look CIWS scale compared to their hull sizes. Would a star destroyer turret be stronger, barrel to barrel against say a CR90? Is it just the stupid number of canons that make them dangerous? Was this a thing even ever addressed anywhere? I suppose i always thought of battleships and how the size of the ship determined the size of the main canons but the ISD looks like a dreadnaught covered in AA, like it never finished outfitting.

If someone really wants to go there, is technology stunted in the setting? I was reading up on HK-47 and engineers 4000 years after he was built marveled at his advanced design... and weapons/shields dont seem to have changed at all in any period I've seen unless you want to go back something like 12000 years to belt pack powered light sabers.

>>51582511

Or a lightsaber sai.

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>>51582657
I think the Rebels team is doing a good job on their own.

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>>51582671
Eh, not really. They just copied something that's already been done.

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>>51582748
Yes. I'm sure they saw /that/ episode of your obscure robot fighting tv show, anon.

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>>51582760
>Gundam
>Obscure

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>>51582769
Yeah.

So which series from 1979 to 2017 should they have seen?

The issue isn't obscurity of brand - Gundam isn't unknown - but content glut. There are so many series, side-series, movies, and remakes that it's pretty hopeless to expect anyone but the most dedicated otaku to know every single episode and reference.

But then again, this is /tg/. That's apparently exactly what we expect.

>>51582886
Not that anon.
More like that one series was one of the ones they happened to watch. You don't have to know every single reference to know one.

Either way it's pointless argument because only the creators would know the answer.

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>>51582976
I think that once they decided to make them auto-spinning, helicoptering was the next logical step.

>>51583194
Logic is a word you can use to describe that I suppose.

>>51583194
Naw, spinning was just Gen. Grievous-tier. Flying is a whole extra level.

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>>51582467
rate my tardsaber

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>>51583440
Is it crank powered?

>>51582340
>You could build your own dual counter-rotating swastikasabers if you'd like.

I-is such a thing even possible? A weapon to surpass the metal gear!

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>>51583737
>This is the weapon of a Jedi Knight. Not as clumsy or as random as a blaster. An elegant weapon... for a more civilized age.

>>51583779
10/10 made me laugh

Especially because i look at some of theseand hear harrison ford's voice in my head
>forget all that hokus pokus, give me a good blaster any day over something like that

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>>51583870
They've got a module for that too.

You could make dual counter-rotating swastikasabers that also shoot nerf darts.

God help us all.

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>>51583952

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>>51583939
>that gunblade
TENNO HEIKA BANZAI

>>51583939
All you need to do to finish that look is start loudly ranting about the glory of the german people whilst the swastikas are spinning

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By far, the best I've found so far

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Why do I get the feeling the next Inquisitors I use will be based on these three?

>>51584010
DUDE THE VIDEO IS BETTER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aa5o-gLiQU

>>51584063

Damn, Episode 8 looks dope

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>>51584063
The Knights of Ren!

>>51584245
Bwah? Does... does this make yellow sabers canon again?

>>51580540
You're welcome.

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>>51584364
Sure. Why not?

>>51584364
Haven't they been canon since TCW?

>>51584364
Yellow sabers have been canon since TCW Season 5 at least. All of the Temple Guards carried them. They might have been shown before that, I don't know for sure.

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>>51584364
>does this make yellow saber canon again?

They already are. Jedi Temple guards had yellow blades, and they were shown in both Clone Wars and Rebels.

>>51582467
The lightsaber trident is nice, but we need to.go further. We need to create a lightsaber menorah.

>>51584447
Good damn, does that also make lightsabers powered by D cells canon? Is there a reasons for those hilts of compensarion?

>>51584537
They're double bladed anon, they've just not got the other blade activated.

>>51584561
Yah but... I've seen double sabers all over the place. This is like three double sabers glued end to end and then just wrapped in tape to give it some girth. But maybe thats just what you need to get those light-horse-cock sized blades.

>>51582003
>Tfw no Star Wars Citizen
>Tfw no Dropzone: Star Wars

Life is suffering

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>>51584447
Ashoka also had a yellow blade.

>>51584675
That picture isn't quite right. Her off-hand saber wasn't full yellow, it was kind of yellow-green.

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>>51584733
It's pretty yellow, m8.

>>51584625
>tfw no X-Wing Commander
>tfw no Dark Forces 3
>tfw no Battlefront: Bad Company
>tfw no Hearts of Beskar or Neo-Crusader Kings
Well, at least you can look forward to the inevitable Star Wars DLC for Kingdom Hearts 3. If you're into that.

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>>51584792
>tfw Sev is still waiting for extraction

>>51584810
Is he, though? The game is no longer canon so technically, we don't even know if Sev went missing in this timeline.

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>>51584752
Yes, but it's definitely not just yellow - there's absolutely green in that saber as well. Compare that saber to these:

>>51584826
At this point, we don't even know if Delta Squad even fought in the Battle of Kashyyyk in canon. They literally only have one appearance, and that was Witches of the Mist in TCW Season 3.

>>51583571
Yeah, you crank the dagger handle and it extends the main blade. Conversely you could swing it by the dagger grip like a pick axe.

Thinking about picking up an E-wing because I've heard Corran is making a comeback. Is it worth it?

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>>51585330
Corran's good and A'baht is interesting. Getting a single E-Wing isn't a bad idea.

>>51585272
Hopefully all of them make it through the Clone Wars. It would be cool as shit to see oldfag Delta Squad get sent to take down Sabine's Mandalorian allies or Rex's rebel clones.

>>51585330
The guys I play with insist Corran is the only pilot on it worth using and I'm inclined to believe them, Abaht's ability is neat but even pairing it with someone like Ten Numb who can really leverage the crit it's just underwhelming for how many points you pay for the thing. Even when I try to make lists around E-wings I just find myself thinking I could put in a significantly more pimped out and capable T-70 for the same price.

>>51585383
>>51585537

Etahn is supposed to be really good in Epic, where you can get a lot more friendly ships on the action, and can get huge ships dice mods.

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>>51585330
>Corran making a comeback
>With Kylo Ren out now

>>51585596
Yeah but nobody seems to like playing Epic and with that many ships around there's undoubtedly going to be something capable of nuking an E-wing off the board in the first turn of shooting.

>>51585383
>>51585537
With that in mind, how's this list?

>Corran
>>PTL
>>R2-D2
>>Fire Control System

>Biggs
>>R4-D6
>>Integrated Astromech

>Jess Pava
>>M9-G8
>>Pattern Analyzer
>>Integrated Astromech

What are some good dark side force visions to tempt my Force and Destiny players?

>>51585620
Name another 3-attack Rebel ace with 3 agility and an evade action.

While on the subject of Kylo, is it wrong that he makes me think FFG is consciously trying to fuck over Rebel players?

>>51585704
What does it matter when you're going up against RAC with KR+Gunner+HSCP?

>>51585704
I'd rather have a 2 agi T-70 with passive autothrusters than a 3 agi E-wing spending actions on evades.

>>51585726
I don't plan on running him without Biggs (as mentioned in >>51585672).

>>51585694
We need to know more about your players before we can say what would be good to tempt them.

>>51585694

Hit 'em in the motivations and weaknesses.

>>51585704

I think FFG consciously tries to fuck over ships/lists people who don't play them complain about. Not everybody enjoys rebel Regen, Kylo eats regen but can't alpha strike wipe an entire enemy list like UBoats.

Just like FFG released half a dozen ways to kill Soontir Fel.

>>51585788
>>51585803

1. Commando background character that has tangled with hutts, slavers, etc.
2. Wookiee who was put through the battle pits. Tends to brute force his way through things.
3. Force sensitive on the run from Inquisitor that killed his family.
4. Sage that has been going heavy on the narrative end of foresee.
5. Ithorian healer. Not a lot of characterization.

Last two have been giving me the most trouble.

>>51585834

Kylo comes with ways to fuck his day up built in, but I imagine more counterplay to be upcoming if he's too hard to wrangle.

>>51585856

Well, by nature those last two still HAVE motivations and I assume emotional weaknesses. Even if they aren't well characterized you can still hit them in those aspects and if they're like "I don't get it" you can still point down to their sheet.

I know that breaks the fourth wall a little but sometimes you need to remind characters why they give a crap.

>>51579638
got a link to dugait's arts?

>>51582769
Who's seen anything but that one series that wasn't complete shit?

I think it was Mobile Suit Gundam Not Shit?

Now if it were Macross, you might be on to something.

>51585890

Fair enough.

Anyway, the wookiee is going into a battle pit and is going to fight a dark side representation of his own bestial nature. After he fights that off and realizes it, he's gonna be trapped in a room. Trying to brute force his way out with move will cause the room to contract.

The one on the run is going to run into a manifestation of the inquisitor. Though I'd be open to suggestions because they encountered him in the session before in a big reveal.

The commando is going to be forced to go through a mission and choose between sticking it to the Hutts or keeping to the mission.

>>51583952
Yeah sorry dude, Pablo has spoken.

>>51584596
>"This design actually looks usable! It's shit!"

Tell me about sports and holidays in star wars. What sorts of tournaments are there besides pod racing on Boonta's Eve?

>>51586003
Smashball, Thrashball, Umgullian Blob Racing, Speeder Racing, Speeder Bike Racing.

As for holidays, the most important one is Life Day

>>51586003
Bocce! A language! A sport! A holiday!

>>51579868
It's a pretty shit ship desu, it's cards are interesting though.

>>51586003
There is Empire Day, which is an Imperial holiday commemorating the anniversary of the founding of the Empire.

>>51586035
Yeah, but are there any sports played on Empire Day?

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>>51585958
>Macross
>Higher brand recognition than Gundam
Gundam's track record has been spottier in terms of shit/not shit series but you're crazy if you think it has less brand recognition than Macross among Western audiences. Pic related.

Jumping into an Etoe game, running in as a Jawa Outlaw tech. Any suggestions to make this as hilarious as possible?

>>51582430
Might be fun to create a launcher for those, have them fling out of a semi-auto light shuriken.

>>51586003
Dont forget about Life Day.

Jesus fucking christ Star Wars is horrible.

>>51586041
No, but a lot of Imperial celebrations, parades, and events. There could be some local games worked into whatever planet your campaign is on.

These military parades might also present opportunities to rebel agents looking to make a statement on the Empire's founding.

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>>51586069
>Life Day
>Bad
Anon pls

>>51586050
I think Pablo's tweeted about Robotech related stuff.

>>51586059
Jawas are silhouette 0. This means you can get tossed around with the base move power. You're mechanically much easier to hide and move around too.

>>51586092
That goatee guy loves that turkey

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>>51586191
Hissa makes one hell of a Hype Man

>>51586215
A damn shame the epub versions around the net have cut out the illos.

>>51586000
Useable is one thing but those spaceslug dildoes are outside the established realm of lightsabers as we've known them. What is the purpose of it looking so far removed from all other saber variants?

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>>51586231
The X-Wing comic has plenty of illo to make up for it.

>>51586143
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So my dm is allowing us to use the force to imbue items using discipline checks combined with force rating. I know it's goofy but I was wondering if you guys had any ideas on what qualities I could give such items with successful checks? So far it's only an idea he's playing with. We're around +500 xp and trying silly stuff.

>>51586310
Silhouettes have a mechanical purpose. 0 items encompasses up to Jawa and Astromech (R2-D2 size) sized items. Silhouette 1 items are most humanoids. 3 is an x-wing and a tie fighter. 4 is the millennium falcon. This stuff has a mechanical purpose.

>>51586310
Silhouettes are an important mechanic. If you're two below a certain size it upgrades the enemies check to hit. But I believe it makes it an easy check at medium range to shoot enemies that are two above you as well. It's an important mechanic to look into.

>>51586525
Make lightsabers shinier. Give them so much Disorient it hurts you to turn it on.

>>51586690
But I already have the concussive 2 mod on my light foil

>>51586064
That seems like an expensive way to build a gun.

>>51586525
Items that give wildly inappropriate bonuses. Like an Astrogation pistol

>>51586699
Plus there are rules already for modding kyber crystals. He may not allow the embuing of lightsabers more because of how powerful they already can be, so I'm just thinking of melee weapons.

>>51586795
Oh that's neat. Make the scope kind of like a force sextant.

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>>51586059
Speed and stealth.

You need repulsorlift boosters under your robes. You need the ability to deploy smoke bombs and then fly off at damn near the speed of sound. You need the ability to camouflage yourself in any environment. Have an empty astromech chassis on the ship so you can hop in and pretend to be a droid, in an emergency. Heck, have two matching astromechs programmed to act as distractions.

Steal every bit of tech that's not nailed down. Pull the wiring out of the bar. A droid sits down? Steal its legs. A speeder parks outside? Crawl under, it, steal the valuable bits. The Rebellion hires you? Steal EVERYTHING - they are awfully trusting. Build a mini hoard.

Display absolutely no concern for the following things: nudity of others. Food. The Force. Ideals. Bathing.

Display total, overpowering concern for the following: items of value. Personal space. Secrets. Pranks. TURBO SPEED.

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>>51586795
This is a very good plan. What's the weirdest skill/item pairing you can think of?

>>51586855
>>51586059
Also, Jawa baths.

>>51587291
>What's the weirdest skill/item pairing you can think of?
Not him, but a shotgun with lore bonuses
>tell me your secrets, obrez
Or possibly a Goddamn Chainsaw with force bonuses
>yeah bud, you can sense the future but good when revving this saw and cutting down trees

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>>51587516
>shotgun with lore bonuses

Every time you fire one or more shells from the shotgun, they spell out words. The words are sometimes useful, sometimes inconsequential, but they always - eventually - mean something to the person who did the shooting.

>Chainsaw with force bonuses

What's a pretty easy way to tap into anger and manic rage? Wielding a goddamn chainsaw, that's what. Dark Side booster!

So, I live in an apartment.
Will playing Armada forever be out of my reach? I think one of my FLGS has an occasional game night, but I'll be damned if I can find a reasonable, storable, and or affordable 3'x6' play area. Should I just focus on X-Wing instead?

My Armada campaign group had most of our first session today (one of the players wasn't able to make it, so he and his opponent are going to play during the week sometime).

Of the two games that were played, Rebels won both.

I won a Hyperlane Raid mission against double Vics, double Gladiators, and Dengar with a TIE swarm, final score was about 300-200, and I got 100 resource points for my team. The downside is I'm going to have to spend most of my points repairing my fleet (I lost an Assault Frigate, two CR90s, Wedge, and a couple of X-Wings).

The other Rebel player who got a match in today successfully assaulted the Imperial base in the Saberhing Asteroid Belt, like, 60-14. He and his opponent hardly took any shots at each other's ships, because the Imperial player for whatever reason just kept waiting for the Rebels to come to his ISD.

Our remaining player will be defending the Rebel base on Nubia against another ISD list. I really hope he can hold onto it, because I could really use the extra 14 resources and 5 refit points for my fleet.

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>>51587291
>>51586525

Imbue a pair of pants with Vigilance bonuses. You sometimes get a funny feeling...

Give a hammer medicine bonuses. Keep your patients guessing.

Work together and give the silliest, ugliest hat you can think of /massive/ Leadership bonuses.

Clone Trooper armor is supposed to be generally superior to Stormtrooper armor. In the FFRPG, how would you convert stormy gear to clone gear? This question could apply to both normal laminate armor and the Imperial Storm Commando Armor.

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Here's a table of terrible crits I just built.

It's designed for starhips of the unreliable, extremely difficult to manage sort.

Give 'er a roll, and tell me how your group would deal with such a crisis.

Rolled 7, 20 = 27 (2d20)

>>51588223
lets see

Rolled 5, 12 = 17 (2d20)

>>51588405
so steering is.....

>>51588419
>steering is bent
C'mon, lad, just trim it out.

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>>51588455
Who knows? If you're lucky, it might even correct the trim you've had to apply to compensate for the extra cargo pods.

>>51579620
My group wants me to GM for a Star Wars campaign but I must confess I'm not really a big Star Wars nerd... I've seen all the movies, Rebels, and even read a few of the books as a kid, but that's about the extent of it.

Any tips on how to study up to be a better GM? I've started reading the Darth Vader comic (which is awesome!) and am aiming to read more of the novels and comics as well, alongside watching The Clone Wars, but it seems like a daunting universe to get to know well enough to GM for... so if you have any tips for quickly getting a hang of the setting, that'd be great.

In addition, if it helps, my group is going for Force and Destiny around the time of Rogue One or Episode IV. So Jedi-in-hiding with mystical, spiritual, and moral stuff is gonna be the big theme, probably.

>>51588675
Oh, and thanks for the Star Wars canon dump in the OP. That's where I got the Darth Vader comics. The resources in this thread are amazing!

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>>51581969
How the fuck are chadrafan good at anything let alobe cerean level? They have 1 willpower which is the most important stat by far.

>>51588675
The animated clone wars show has some good stuff, but also some boring stuff, especially towards the beginning, so make don't be afraid to use the viewing guide in the OP. Rebels episodes can also be a very hit or miss, try not to give up because of the first two seasons of either show.

If you've got a commute to work or just like audiobooks you can get a 1 month free trial on audible.com which has some star wars books.

The assumed setting for the FFG rpgs is 1 ABY (After the Battle of Yavin), iirc, so you're going to have most everything you want statted in the various books.

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>>51588675
Stop. You're looking for love in all the wrong places.

More accurately, you're confusing "knowing the canon" with "being a good storyteller."

Canon is the stories other people have told. They can give you ideas and inspiration, but they also close off doorways. See:
>>51568221
>>51568459

If you've seen the movies and Rebels, you have all the canon and tone and background you need. Stop adding more food and start digesting what you have.

Tell me, what are three major themes of Star Wars?

How can you build a game that incorporates those themes?

>>51588755
I'm actually on season 3 of Rebels! Just watched "The Antilles Extraction". Been really enjoying it. It definitely started as hit or miss, but it's been super great lately. Really loved the season 2 finale.

I pirated a lot of the 'best' Star Wars books (from what little research I did on the internet) and plan on reading those. On my commutes I've been listening to actual play podcasts (Campaign currently, been trying to find a good F&D one because while Campaign's fun, it isn't the right feel really). I'll definitely look into Audible though, audiobooks while driving or working out sounds nice. Thanks for the suggestion!

I was definitely considering using the viewing guide. I have a pretty high tolerance for cheesier stuff, especially in shows like Rebels and the like, but if it's just straight-up boring then I'll probably just resort to skipping ahead.

>>51588795
Ah, no worries anon! I wrote that post pretty poorly... I know that just knowing the canon isn't gonna make me a better GM, lol. I just want to get a better sense of what species are common in the Star Wars universe, what planets are going to be well-known, what events, etc.

I was actually gonna write this in my original post, but my current plan is to rely a lot on my own material and not really worry about the canon. I'd like to know stuff that makes it feel 'legit Star Wars' like species and kinds of starship and all that, but I know it's not essential. I can always just set it far away from the rest of the stories, make it on planets of my own devising, species of my own devising, etc... but I also genuinely want to learn more about Star Wars canon!

I'll totally answer your questions though, because I am aiming to be the best storyteller I can be for this.

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>>51588835
Species-wise, I'd ignore canon, for the most part. Sure, pick a few species and learn their attributes. If a player wants to play one, it's up to /them/ to tell you and the rest of the group about it. And not just things from canon. Let them make up stuff too.

Make up your own species. I created this PDF for my game. Just peel off an NPC, invent a species, a description, and an ecology, and you're good to go.

The more you delve into canon, the more doors will be closed off. "Oh, there's already a spider-like species," you'll say, as the idea fossilizes in your mind.

Make your players answer questions too. "So your friend Guntar Guntar is a bounty hunter and a Solipharian. What do the Solipharians look like? What do they eat? Where do they live? What sort of minds do they have? What do they enjoy?"

Collaborative worldbuilding is extra satisfying.

>>51588795
>>51588835


>What are three major themes of Star Wars?

I was actually just chatting with my group about this. I was thinking based on the framework of "principles" from Apocalypse World and other PBTA systems, and was idly musing on what some good 'principles' would be for a Star Wars campaign. Here's what I had come up with, with some of my players' suggestions:

> The nature of good and evil

A common recurring theme, even with non-Jedi, is the struggle to stick to the 'light side'. Redemption, temptation, corruption... those themes are huge to the power of Star Wars. The conflict between good and evil is both on the individual level and the universal level, and I want to emphasize the allure of the dark side, and the cryptic "everything has a reason" trust in the light side, as much as I can.

One of my players, when I asked what they thought was important to making a story feel like Star Wars, noted that they really appreciate that good always triumphs. Evil often wins individual battles, but good will ultimately always win the war. I definitely like how that is a 'universal' reflection of the theme that the Dark Side is quick and easy, but ultimately doesn't pay; and the Light Side is subtle in its rewards, and requires trust and faith.

> The impact of the past

I really like how so many things in Star Wars feel like the products of such a grand universe. When I watched Episode IV, it feels so... worn-in. The Rebels existed before Luke; the Millenium Falcon is old and beat-up; there's a Clone War, a Kessel Run, and all these other details only briefly alluded to, but not seen. You can feel that the present is always the result of a huge and epic past.

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>>51588934
I run my games in Fate Core, so we have "Game Aspects", but yeah, same thing really.

I agree that the Nature of Good and Evil is in there. But it's capital G good and capital E Evil... with some room for the lower case versions too.

But dig deeper. It's not an examination of "what does it mean to be a good person?" It's an examination of "what are the consequences of my choices?" It's not about the nature of Good and Evil so much as the struggle between them. And it's an immensely personal struggle, but one in which Hope vanquishes Fear, Love banishes Hate, and Peace wins over War.

I love the "used future" aesthetic. Not much else to say here, except work to make the worlds and NPCs feel /real/. Everywhere you go, the place should feel slightly greasy, slightly lived-in, like a truck stop or a motel. There should be noise and clutter and too many languages and species to count.

>>51588934

> The impact of the past, cont.

I actually just watched the LotR trilogy for the first time since I was a kid (loved it!) and it really struck me how important it is to a fantasy to make things feel alive, and to constantly bring to mind a sense of wonder and awe to the audience by sheer virtue of age and time. The same thing happens in Star Wars, throughout it. Rather than being new and shiny, like other sci-fi, Star Wars sought to feel like a legacy, a descendant.

In addition, the past haunts a lot of characters. There's the matter of blood and family, but also tragedy and trauma. The Skywalker family is obviously related to this theme, but so too is the alluded-to backstory of Obi Wan in the first movie. Han's referenced Kessel Run gave him his Millenium Falcon, and helps establish his reputation. Lando and Han share a history that has created a bond, which makes Lando's betrayal all the more hard-hitting. Etc... We follow Luke's in this story, but there's clearly so much more to it.

> Mystery and destiny

The Force was awe-inspiring because it was magic that truly felt magical... it was mysterious, wieldable but also fickle. The zen philosophy of Jedi was really exotic when I first saw Star Wars, and was such a stark contrast to the near-scientific magic you see in so many other series. I loved it.

This is a big part of what makes Star Wars "sci-fantasy". In combination with the constant allusions to the past, or other events or species or places, it constantly elicits a sense of wonder and curiosity in the audience. And importantly, when those questions are answered, they inspired awe, and more questions.

Series like Rebels are fun not only because we answer some of our questions - what were other Jedi up to during the rebellion? What was the Rebellion doing before the events of the movies? Etc... but also because they provoke new questions.

(Continued...)

>>51588882
Has it ever occurred to you that maybe some people actually want to play their Star Wars game in the Star Wars universe and not some other generic space fantasy universe you pull out of your ass?

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>>51589007

And that's fine. They can do that.

Problem is, there's /so much canon/ that you'll never be able to play a fully, exhaustively canonical game.

And since the canon authors made stuff up in the same way you do... why not continue the spirit of the tradition? It's not like the guys naming the bounty hunters in ESB had access to divine inspiration or were somehow orders of magnitude better at storytelling.

You can stick to /only/ materials you know are canonical, but that kind of misses one of the major themes of Star Wars. The galaxy is a big, diverse, and messy place. It's got all sorts of people in it, and they are living their own lives.

Have you ever read the artbooks and designers notes for the films? They designers and concept artists do almost exactly what we do here, except on a tighter schedule. There's no magic involved.

>>51589007
>Oh, you want to land on this planet that's only been mentioned once in a movie and never elaborated?
>You land on the planet. There's nothing here.
>Sorry, I'm not allowed to make things up, this is a canon-only zone.

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>>51588995
Family is a major theme in Star Wars, especially the dichotomy between adoptive families and bloodlines. The Owen Lars/Luke/Vader story is mirrored by the (unused) Obi-Wan/Luke/Owen Lars arc. >>.51571464 Everything is tied together by family. These stories are like viking epics. People inherit swords, destinies, tragedies, and fates. Even the new movies get that.

So at least one of your PCs will have a family connection. There will be a twist. It's pretty much mandatory. Don't decide right away, but by the end of the first session, you should have a sense of how it's going to go. Then start setting the stage.

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>>51589096
That's a far cry from "Species-wise, I'd ignore canon," and you know it. There are enough sapient aliens to cover basically any need. If you find a gap you need to fill, then that's fine, but there's no need to trash everything but the lightsabers because waaah I feel so constricted

>>51588995
>Mystery and destiny

Moments like the Bendu speaking of Ashla and Bogan - of an ancient origin of the Jedi... or of the power of the Holocrons being brought together... or the "Siege of Malachor" and the Sith "Temple"... that stuff is great!

In addition, characters always have a hope, a dream, a 'destiny' to fulfill, and I love that. One of my players noted, half-jokingly, that the idealistic hopes of so many main characters helped them make sense of Star Wars being Disney - they sometimes felt like Disney-character wishes! And I think that's a big part to the series, honestly. Having ambitious desires, a universe stacked up against you, but trust that things will work out for the best... that heroic spirit (and foolishness) is nice. The Rebels are underdogs, the Jedi strive for an ideal... it's good to remember that.

>>51588984
Yeah, I just decided not to capitalize them because it felt weird to do that alongside Light and Dark Side.

I definitely agree it's not about 'what is the Light Side'. I do like the specific focus on consequences, that's a good catch-all term for it. The main nature of the conflict between Light and Dark Side, narratively, is certainly in what costs they bring, and what side-effects they carry with them.

Yeah, variety and diversity is big too! Thanks for reminding me of that.

Currently, my idea to represent these in-game is basically to just have them as 'reminders' on my GM sheet. I was planning on sitting down and breaking up the Light vs. Dark Side into a few basic spectrums. I really like how you divided it. I'll definitely use Hope versus Fear!

I had Passion vs. Peace, Power vs. Knowledge, and Victory vs. Harmony. (Using the Codes as a basis, which worked out well!)

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>>51588995
>magical... it was mysterious, wieldable but also fickle.

Make sure you are choosing a good system that reflects how you feel about the Force (if it will be used in your games). Make sure there is player buy-in that it's not magic powers you level up and that's it. Enforce mysticism. The Force lets you do impossible things, if you trust in it.

>>51587605
>shotgun with shells that spell words
"Send nudes"

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>>51585905
https://www.artstation.com/artist/jbdugait

He's got a lot of more scenic, landscape stuff

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>>51589154
>Poor Jawa's getting their shit wrecked

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>>51589133
>"Species-wise, I'd ignore canon,"

Like I said, learn a few, and if your players want to learn more, let them.

But if you memorize this whole damn encyclopedia you're in for a rough time. It forces you down pre-defined paths written by other authors. What do you /gain/ from this? Recognizability? How many people out there know that Sullustians can breathe ammonia? Is that ever going to be relevant?

http://gsa.thegamernation.org/2012/10/31/star-wars-edge-of-the-empire-the-unofficial-species-menagerie-2-0/

>>51589147
I'm using Force and Destiny. I know it's got power-trees and all that, which I'm not too jazzed about, but the dice system and Destiny Points seem well-poised for the more mystical aspects of the Force, I hope.

Thanks for the advice!

>>51589133
I think they were exaggerating with "ignore canon". More like "don't ONLY use canon".

>>51589178
Nobody has to memorize anything. That's there are source book PDFs and the internet and the ctrl+F function. You don't have to drag hundreds of clay tablets to your game sessions any more, old man.

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>>51589143

I would also go with Control vs. Freedom.

But yes, good, make lots of little notes, and guide your players along these lines during character creation. Not everything is a binary spectrum, but it's a handy tool.

Don't get too hung up on the Force philosophy thing. What makes an act a "Dark Side" act is entirely up to you as the GM, and to your players as well. It's not about rules lawyering your way out of a massacre, or taking consequences for acts you feel are both just and pure. It's about character change - unless the /character/ changes, the points don't matter.

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>>51589199
But I /like/ my clay tablets.

I use technology pretty heavily in my games, but very rarely as a reference tool. Why? It slows down the game. I don't need to look up the political structure of the Mon Calamari. I can just invent it... and amazingly, what I say is canon in my games. That's how GMing works.

If a players has an interesting idea - canon or not - I might go with that instead or as well.

The main use of technology in my games is for music. I have a 90+ track folder with named and sorted music. Each PC has a leitmotif (from non Star Wars music because I'm apparently also a masochist). I also have sound effect boards open. With these tools, I can /increase/ immersion and theme while sacrificing nothing.

What does looking up a canon race in a book get me from a storytelling point of view? Very little. If my players care, it's their job to tell me - to bring their idea into the story. If they don't care, then why should I use the ideas of another author over my own ideas, assuming they're both equally thematic and match the game's tone?

>>51589223
Ah yeah! I was gonna say "Freedom vs. Duty".

The idea of the conflicts actually came from my experience GMing Masks. I loved the conflicts that the rulebook offered between different styles of heroics, since they gave me the ability to present nuanced and interesting conflicts to characters while only needing to write down two words per conflict on my GM sheet notes. So I wanted to do the same here. The idea here is that they help me brainstorm scenarios or decisions that will test the players' Morality.

>>51589273
I'd love a playlist! I've been looking for music that feels Star Wars-y without being recognizably Star Wars, and it's been tough. I've been relying on the video games a lot.

>>51589199
>Hang on, give me 5 minutes to read about this obscure alien species that none of you have ever heard of.
>It's really important that I respect the canonical attributes that were established in shitty novelization #121.
>I know everyone at the table cares deeply about this alien, which is why I'm wasting all of our time to scroll through this PDF to find out that they can "smell infared", and they consume "Belthrudian hyper-drugs".

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>>51589287
This isn't really uploadable. It's also custom built for my games. I've also edited tracks to remove some leitmotif's (like Vader's theme).

But it's a mix of the 8 film sountracks, plus:

-Some tracks from "The Man from UNCLE" (leitmotifs for one character)
-Prokofiev's "Romeo and Juliet" (more leitmotifs)
-Some Morricone (very carefully chosen) as leitmotifs
-Some tracks from "Lucky Number Slevin" (leitmotifs)
-Some Dvorak
-Some Mussorsky

And this wonderful piece is the main theme for the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4drLmXeoJqI

It played at the start of the first session, after the opening crawl and the main theme, and the players were /hooked/. Hooked by the soul, my friend.

>>51589273
>>51589293
The reason to play in a particular setting is so you can interact with all the things you've seen in the related media. Does the player want to go to water planet 10 and see fish race 8 or do I want to go to Manaan and see Selkath? If it's the former, literally why are they bothering to call it Star Wars? There's nothing stopping you from putting magic and laser swords in your personal setting you've made up with your friends.

>>51589330
Awesome, thanks for the suggestions! I was going to start digging into more classical / orchestral stuff like that myself.

>>51589331
Ah yes, Star Wars, the setting where no new planets or aliens are ever introduced in any of the sequels.

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>>51589356
What you're looking for is :

-Music with no choir
-Music with few repeated verses. There should never be a clear chorus or phrase that repeats more than three times. If it feels like it loops, it's not Williams
-No piano. I'll accept the guitar, electric or otherwise, for Western-themed Star Wars games. Your major instruments are the violin, the trumpet, and the flute.

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>>51589331
>The reason to play in a particular setting is so you can interact with all the things you've seen in the related media.

It might be for you. But that would feel like too much of a "theme park" tour to me.

"Oooh, look, it's Mandalore. Let's go see the things I've seen in associated media. Oh, the other players haven't? Well fuck them. That's their loss. I'm having a great time."

>Does the player want to go to water planet 10 and see fish race 8 or do I want to go to Manaan and see Selkath?

The players are here to tell a story. It can be a Star Wars story and /never once/ involve any canonical planet. You need a few canon elements to tie the whole thing together, but planets and species are definitely not on the mandatory list.

Do you run a lot of games, anon?

>>51589392
Yeah. At the same time, though, I need music that loops if I want it playing for a while during a scene... unless I just use music as stingers to set up scenes, I guess.

It's tough using the movie soundtracks because they so often 'tell a story', too. If you know what I mean.

>>51589415
>Do you run a lot of games, anon?
I am presently part of a game, if you're trying to imply that I just post angrily and never play.

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>>51589424
I've categorized my music as follows:

Battle
Filler
Force
Imperial Music
Intro
Leitmotifs
Outro
Special
Urban

So I might have a track named "Filler - Shadow of the Empire - 4m06s" for a track like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T9dvUqWGWs

Filler tracks are designed to be looped or played in quick succession without feeling like they dominate a scene.

It's also perfectly acceptable to keep the music off for a bit, then bring it back as needed. If it plays all the time it loses its impact.

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>>51589442
Running a game is an entirely different beast.

But I assume that, in the game you're in, you don't cross-check everything the GM says for canon veracity? Do you insist other players stick exclusively to canon materials? If there's a question, do you go to Wookipedia first and ask "what would be the most interesting answer?"... never?

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>>51589476
>>51589424

But you also need to edit. That filler track in my playlist is 3m26s. I chopped off the end bit because it didn't fit my needs.

And then you need to learn to tell a story in time to music.

It's... tricky. But it's a lot of fun. Soon you'll hear your own playlist in your head as you make plans.

>>51589494
>Running a game is an entirely different beast.
I've GM'd games before.

The disconnect here is that you and your group gather to tell a story. Mine gathers to play a game. What something IS matters more to us than what if it was something else. Your method might work well for you, but frankly if I wanted to tell a story I'd do it with Microsoft Word, not a bag of dice.
>inb4 some shitpost about diceless games

>>51589476
>>51589506
I have a similar system for my current campaign (Pokemon). I have Route, Town, Wild Battle, Trainer Battle, and Themes (for various characters). Each folder also has "tags" - so for example, the Route songs are split into "easy / medium / hard", and also tagged with what Route they commonly appear on. I also have some leitmotifs, though I really should work on establishing more of them...

Right now, I have music a lot of the time, but most of the time it's quiet and mostly for a noise-filler (my group likes having a bit of background music to help set the mood). I only turn it up when establishing a big dramatic moment or when it's a 'theme song', like for bosses, rivals, etc. I also use silence at times, of course, for dramatic effect.

Fortunately, as it's based on Pokemon, I have an AMPLE amount of filler. Still, making an entire 'filler' tag for a Star Wars campaign is a great idea... I'll have to use that!

Right now I simply use Youtube playlists with the Notes serving as my 'tags' repository', but I definitely have been leaning more towards just downloading the music, especially so I can edit it.

Thanks for the amazing advice!

>>51589540
Yeah, I had a feeling the root of this conflict was that you both simply sought different things out of your Star Wars experience. Wanting a game that sticks closely to canon is not a problem, if it's what's fun for you! That's really what matters.

You want to play in a game that has things from Star Wars. He wants to tell a story that has the feeling of Star Wars. Very different goals, even if they overlap with the same medium. And both are fun!

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>>51589540
I guess "tell a story" is the wrong phrase. Maybe "discover a story" works better?

Nobody has any idea what's going to happen next, but we're all going to find out together.

I'm not sure how you're defining "playing a game". Is this a D&D style "beat X encounter, get Y XP, move on", where the game is really just a series of logic puzzles/challenges/optimization problems? That's fine too... but why does it have to be exclusively canon in that case? It seems like that type of game relies /less/ on canon than a story-based one.

>>51589569
It doesn't have to be, it relies on canon because that's what they want. The fun is playing a game that lets them explore their favorite Star Wars places, meet the coolest Star Wars races, etc.

>>51589330
Dude, your selection is awesome! I'm gonna have to dig more into my classical memory and see what I can find to match the aesthetic.

Any chance you can post up a screenshot of some of your playlist?

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>>51589564
No problem!

And I prefer downloading because I can more easily mix 2 tracks - fade one in, bring the other up. Instantly see that "Oh, right, they're going to run into the Imperials soon. Let's use a bridging track to introduce some Imperial themes and then switch music entirely."

Also, this may not be useful at all, but I've written a Fate Core hack for Star Wars. It's light, quick, extremely fun, and it has less fiddly bits than EoTE. It also has a very... mystic Force system.

>>51589595
Cool, will check it out. I already got the dice for the F&D system so I not only have a fiscal investment, but my group already seemed interested in it... but this'll be on my list for sure, and my group might want to go for a lighter system, especially after the hellscape that is PTU. (Ugh...)

Thanks!

Also, anyone have any suggestions for an album-uploading website? Imgur's gone to shit lately. I have a bunch of images I want to upload in thanks for the help I've gotten and I don't know where to do it. I'd just dump them, but I'm not gonna be up much longer.

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>>51589585
That's the funny thing. Since I renamed all of the tracks and edited them, I can't really tell what the original ones were.

I mean, there's at least 80% of ANH's soundtrack, with most of Rogue One and about a third of TFA's. Once we get into ESB and RoTJ, Vader's leitmotif (the Imperial March) and the Emperor's leitmotif (the choral chanting) dominate too much, so I had to be very selective.

Some of the more eccentric tracks.

Cantina music: https://soundcloud.com/rig/boogieman

Ed (the Hutt's) Leitmotif: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUmq1cpcglQ&feature=youtu.be&t=90

B4-S1L (the protocol droid's) "Past" Leitmotif: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nci9xdpqi7I

Omi Palova (the Twi'lek used starship sales...Twi'lek)'s militant leitmotif: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSthccvAd3I

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>>51589626
Well, sunk cost fallacy and all that..

Anyway, give it a read, and skim the Fate Core SRD online. It's completely free, so you don't have to drop any more cash on books or specialized dice. Well, maybe some Fate Dice would be handy, but regular d6s and a sharpie work perfectly.

>>51587753
i wanna merry this women lol

are there any stat blocks out for no disintegrations yet?

>>51589667
I actually already have some Fate Dice. I use them for counters. :)

I genuinely really like the Star Wars system so far from what I've seen and read and played. It seems like a good mix between crunch and narrative. I myself lean far more towards narrative most of the time, like FATE, but a bit of crunch can be nice. And my group is really used to crunch (they started with DND), so more loosey-goosey systems can be a hard sell. They are pretty open, though.

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>>51589691
I've got cellphone-quality pictures of the ships in it.

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>>51589710
Oh dear, they're right-side up locally.

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>>51589705
You might like how I'm (secretly) using Force in this game.

Every time a player with Force makes a Force roll, they can also damage a concept named "Secrecy".

Secrecy has 2 stress boxes and 3 consequence slots, just like any NPC.

When a player succeeds on a Force roll, their shifts of success are dealt as damage to their Secrecy.

Stress isn't so bad. It goes away. But the consequences... ooh, those can be nasty.

And then if they manage to accidentally kill Secrecy, very, very bad things will start to happen to them.

This goes on behind the screen, of course. They'll learn about it soon enough.

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>>51589719
Gookmoot please stop!

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>>51589735
And that's it for ships.

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>>51589745
And that's all I've got.

>>51589626
>>51579620
Just decided to use mediafire.

Here's my folder of "Inspiration" images I've been assembling. Do enjoy.

https://www.mediafire.com/?s524cxq7eap0448

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>>51589287
Here's a bit of an eclectic mix of tracks from my eclectic tastes

Dead Can Dance - The Protagonist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_3wdH-RRqQ

Wardruna - Hagal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQA7RQEo-ss

Ryan Farish "Indian Summer"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXUpz3N_c-o

Vibrasphere - Erosion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsaOqAj_sOo

Chicane - Red Skies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wn6UHWXiyc

Engage - Tourmaline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq560SiTq9c

>>51589273
Dude there's nothing wrong with the way you play your games but the way you preach your shit to everyone like a door to door Mormon is the most obnoxious shit. Please stop.

>>51589710

Thanks man, cracked a chub, could you the operator tree and explanation pages?

>>51589595
Oh of fucking course you're the Fate guy. It all fits together now.

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>>51589810
At worst, it's generating content. And it's not like your monitor is running out of ink.

Do you really want to have another thread where everyone argues over, I don't know, Grey Jedi?

>>51589818
Nope, sorry, not my pictures.

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>>51589831
Yup.

But hey, glad to hear I've got a hate-club out there.

>>51589833
You're generating the same discussions repeatedly across multiple threads, it's just as bad as the same lore discussions being retreaded over and over. It's fine to talk about how you run your games but you do it like you're a goddamn evangalist, trying to convince everyone of the amazing virtues of your approach to GMing while also throwing in the occasional "but how you choose to run your games is up to you :)" to make it look like you're being fair and balanced.

I actually LIKE how you run your games. You sound like you'd be a fun GM to play with. But in these threads you're just an obnoxious cunt.

>>51589836

nw, appreciate you sharing them

>>51589754
Mando armor

oh fuck yes

>Using canon sources and making up your own species/planets/etc are somehow mutually exclusive approaches
What is this bullshit?

I make tons of use of canon. I visit Wookipedia all the time when I'm planning out my campaign notes. I also regularly throw in things which have never had any presence in canon. You can easily do both.

Most people who play Star Wars RPGs are big Star Wars fans. Ergo they know a pretty big chunk of the lore from the get-go, and will eagerly look up more when building their backstories and trying to get a sense of where they fit into the existing universe. You don't need an encyclopedic knowledge of the canon to use the canon extensively, and the existing Disney canon is actually pretty small in scope, many people in this thread have been exposed to nearly all of it.

>>51589881
The stats are pretty barebones though.

>>51589833
>Do you really want to have another thread where everyone argues over, I don't know, Grey Jedi?
Yes.
>Many people can be involved.
>It's actually relevant to the setting, which is the thing the thread is for.
>There is at least one right answer for canon or legends that someone might be exposed to for the first time.

I'd rather argue about kyber crystals, the nature of the force, or gray jedi every day rather than listen to a self inflated narrativist preach the virtues of oc doughnut steel every day.

Didn't see it last thread so here's a link to Forged in Battle from 7chan

>https://mega.nz/#!Qg8jgRZK!IjKRSqGC_07_kSz6cmq6Z3uGWqUPc__b1h1IT0NQoDM

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>>51589860
>You're generating the same discussions repeatedly across multiple threads

I try to respond to questions, and not just post in a vacuum. It's not like these threads are a finite resource. And I also post images, which is helpful.

>trying to convince everyone of the amazing virtues of your approach to GMing

As far as I can tell, my approach to GMing is different enough that it's worth bringing up from time to time, when people ask "How do I plan a one-shot game" or "How do I make an interesting encounter?" People say "thanks" a fair bit so I must be doing something right.

If I didn't think it was a good approach, I'd do something else.

And no, I'm not fair or balanced. I like the way I run my games. I steal ideas and examine new ways of doing things. I think people would have more fun if they examined some of their preconceptions about canon and GMing.

But the limit of my ability to get anyone to do anything is to post about how I do things, and see if my ideas catch on. It's something. And if you don't like them... ok. No loss to anyone.

It's definitely an arrogant approach, but again, it's free of cost and consequence.

>>51589927
>As far as I can tell, my approach to GMing is different enough that it's worth bringing up from time to time
Every second thread is not "from time to time".

>>51589897
can you post them?

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>>51589904
Hey, that's not fair. I have friends and posters who helped to inflate me.

Seriously though, if you want to start a discussion on any topic on /tg/... start one. Post some OC. Discuss how your game went. Pick apart a story. Whine about inconsistent canon. Weep over lost waifus. Rage over herky-jerky prose or CGI actors or bullshit dials in X-wing.

It's a free thread, my friend. No cost or consequence.

>>51589949
1 defense, 2 soak, 5 hardpoints

>>51589909
Thanks!

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>>51589939
I try to bring up different stuff every time. I bet there are entire threads I was in where you had no idea I was posting. And I'm pretty sure I post the FateCore thing about... once a week, at most. It probably seems like more because of the long posts.

And it only eats up 4chan's bandwidth, not yours.

>>51589909
Based, thank you

>>51589959
that's pretty good for non powered armor. what is the encumbrance?

>>51589909
>It's a good scan
There is a god.

>>51589973
Does anyone think this are really lazy in comparison to the Cantina scene from ANH? Maybe I'm just jaded from seeing a whole bunch of aliens in movies, but these guys just don't seem as weird as Rodians, Ithorians or Bith. They feel by the numbers somehow.

>>51589997
6.

The real goodies are all the potential attachments. Shuriken throwers, micro-rockets, grapple hook, basically anything you've seen jango or pre visla use.

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>>51590010
I think it's the cleanliness, and the fact that the creatures were clearly designed by a team of competent people, rather than a few panicked costume designers rooting through bins of whatever they had handy. Every design in that image was approved by someone. ANH's cantina was a mess, but it was a glorious mess.

That photo does suck the magic right out of the scene though.

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>>51590019

>>51590019
rarity and base cost?

>>51590090
>rarity
8/special

>base cost
Not sure what is says in the table, but >>51589754

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>>51585958
>Hes calling G-Gundam shit
>Literally Exalted in giant robots

>>51589833
Can you sleep on a ship this small? Or would travel on something like this require a stop at a space super 8?

Does anyone have a list of careers with wellrounded?

>>51590200
Sure, just sleep in your seat. There is probably even a small shitter tucked away somewhere. It's really poor for long term habitation though.

>>51590200
Not comfortably, but some people can sleep damn near anywhere.

>>51585958
>08th ms team
>shit

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>>51590200
I prefer this layout, makes more sense.

>>51590247

neeto

I wish it was easier to find Star Wars campaigns online that are taking new players. Roll20 has a couple going but the GMs seem to be illiterate so I don't hold high hopes for the quality of those games.

>>51582467
>>51584063
>>51582320
Get one of the cross hilt part and four bendy ones, then slap on four of whatever sabers you want.

Swastika saber.

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So Martial Artists can effectively knock any boss out of a fight with one crit now?

Staggered is a hard crit. So is losing your fucking eyes.

>>51590247
Almost half the ship is corridor.

Efficient.

>>51590908
Hard to do much else with such a narrow design if you want to have individual rooms.

>>51590870
Eh, if it's a Nemesis you can just flip a Destiny Point to let them escape. And they'll be gunning for that Martial Artist next time.

>>51590937
>Eh, if it's a Nemesis you can just flip a Destiny Point to let them escape
I know the rules let you do this but it's my least favourite thing to do as a GM. Like, villains running away is a fine trope, but I prefer to do it in structured combat so that the players have a CHANCE to stop them.

Just having them poof with no questions asked when you flip a destiny seems to rob players of opportunity to do anything.

>>51590958
It's very much their win whenever it happens. Command structures under that villain will be in disarray immediately after too, so it's not just a one-encounter win, it pays forward.

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>>51586855
I thank you sir. I will now proceed to do make this list my mantra.

>>51590937
Where is this in the rules? I always see people mention it but I can never find it in the actual rulebook.

>>51586855
Almost forgot, but out of what source is Respulsor lift boots? I found jump boots, which I guess could be flavored narratively.

>>51584537
It is a well known fact that Temple Guards are neckbeard smalldicked permavirgins. That's why they wear masks and have huge sabers that they always have activated to compensate.

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>>51586248
They're ceremonial, i think. Or maybe they're designed so you could feasibly use it like a baton or truncheon. And i could see why having some sort of crowd control option that doesn't involve dismemberment would be useful for a guard.

I do like the look of the temple guard sabers they showed in rebels though. Overall they have a closer aesthetic to what we generally see fro sabers and they don't seem as bulky.

>>51591491
Having them fold in like that was cool, although it seems to have more utility as a thing to use in the field, not in a ceremonial, defence role.

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>Be temple guard
>Obi Wan rolls up stoned as a motherfucker, reeking of spice
>Has 5 twilek hookers and someone in rubber on a length of chain
>Says
>These arent the hookers I'm looking for
>ok

>Those where not the hookers I was looking for

How do I make an infamous pirate's flagship seem suitably unique and personalised? Naturally it'll be modified to all fuck, but how do you make the internals feel lived in and evocative?

Any tips on characterising and writing stories involving pirates in general would be cool, too.

>>51591046
Seconding htis

>>51591987
Trophies, graffiti, jury-rigged moonshine production, and all sorts of luxuries, creature comforts, and non-milspec stuff. Maybe even a bit of superstition thrown in. A high-ranking officer, for instance, might have a king-size bed with an honest-to-God wooden frame. Good luck charms might hang from the air vents. A crewman might have a potted plant somewhere that reminds him of home. The lower decks could be the gathering place for all the hangers-on of the actual crew--wives, prostitutes, vendors, scavengers, knife-sharpeners, tattoo artists, etc. Pirate ships might also be home to all manner of vermin, poorly maintained machinery, etc.

>>51586050
In America, virtually everyone knows Macross even if they don't know that they know about Macross because Robotech.

>>51589154
thanks brehmen

>>51592386
>In America, virtually everyone knows Macross even if they don't know that they know about Macross because Robotech.
I hope you just mean among nerds otherwise you're out of touch if you think the average person has even heard of it.

>>51590129
>Exalted
>good

Pick one

>>51592429
>I hope you just mean among nerds otherwise you're out of touch if you think the average person has even heard of it.
It was aired on Cartoon Network. Virtually everyone who was a kid in the 1980s and 1990s has probably seen it.

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>>51592386
Most people dont know about macross or robotech actually and if they did they would just think its another kind of Gundam.

>>51592461
Hahahahaha no not in the slightest. In America if people know about a Giant Robot show its either Gundam or the Big O.

>/swg/ - mecha

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>>51592559
Duhh

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>>51592559
Well, Gundam is to Japanese nerds what Star Wars is to Western neckbeards. X-Wing Build Fighters TV show when?

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>>51589754
>Beskar'gam is now statted

>>51592662
And it has no special rules, just numbers.

I don't get what people were expecting.

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>>51589754
>that price tag for veteran armor
>mfw it's more expensive than a used Cloakshape
>mfw two suits are more expensive than a used Pinook
>mfw a single platoon's worth of those could cost more than a fucking TIE Defender

>>51592461
The cable provider in my hometown didn't carry Cartoon Network until after 2005 or so.

>>51592684
Fuck off, let us mandofags have our day

>>51592703
When you have Mandos, you pay for quality

>>51592516
>"I AM THIS MAD THAT DRAGONBALL Z IS WESTERN CARTOON FAN FAVORITE"

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>>51592728
Dude what the hell are you talking about? Are you ok?

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>>51592516
>Implying this is a bad thing
>Implying Giant Robot Batman isn't all you need

>>51592763
Do people who dye their hair usually dye their eyebrows too? That seems like dedication to me but it might be totally normal.

>>51593129
What when in my post did I diss Big O or Gundam. I love Big O and most Gundams. I was saying that they are vastly more popular than robotech in America.

>>51593142
Some do. It's pretty easy.

>>51582886
Zanscare choppers were pretty well known, even if people generally avoid watching Vitory because Tomino was even more off his meds than when he made Zeta.

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>>51593249
>I love Big O and most Gundams.

>>51592386
Macross/Robotech barely aired in the 90s and alter, I saw two episodes of it on Toonami's "Giant Robot Week" and that's it.

I only know about it from researching the legal drama about Whoremoney Jewgold fucking over Battletech.

>>51589719
>>51589710
>>51589745
Those pages are pretty illegible, can you do each one separately?

>>51593791
No. >>51589836

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Hello /tg/, I have a quick EotE question I hope to have answered.

I'm interested in using both shipfag's rule mods for starship combat as well as the various houseruled ships /swg/ has thrown in the dropbox, but could someone tell me if the HT and SS values for these ships are balanced for the base game or use with the shipfag's house rules? I don't want to apply the buff to something that already got it.

Thanks in advance for any answers.

>>51594077
>>51594077
The values are not preajusted. I did the ships that way to ensure complete compatibility with any house rules or adjustments, not just mine.
Also, I've revised my house rules in the years since I originally put them up here.
I would now have piloting skill add outright difficulty dice to hit, with handling adding setbacks. I've also been experimenting with having handling upgrade the piloting difficulty die to reds, though I haven't used that one too much so far

>>51592595
Camille is best girl

>>51595167
How can you say that when you can't even spell her name right?

>>51585856
With folks with foresight, I tend to load them on with good stuff they need to know, then bad stuff they can't change. Pick a few rotational points in the history and drive them to despair/make them cause them by trying to prevent them. Pretty classic.

With regards to healers, test their commitment to healing. Make an old enemy - preferably one that is petty, but caused great damage, like a con man - then have them turn up in need of medical aid later: genuinely desperate. See if they deny them.

>>51595099

Would you be willing to post the current set of houserules you have?

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>>51595099
Thank you glorious shipfag. Please also know I look forward to murdering my players with your Carrack Cruiser soon!

>>51595362
Pic related

>>51591046
That's the point of Destiny Points, they have structured uses for rolls, but can also be used to just make things happen.

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There are people in this thread that think playing a diplomat is in anyway shape or form acceptable in a Star Wars campaign

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>>51595942

There are people in this thread that think playing Outer Rim Riff Raff is in any way, shape, or form, acceptable in a Star Wars campaign.

>>51595942
I dunno, analyst looks pretty cool. Handing out triumphs n shit.

>>51595394
>we ought to just add it to the OP

>Thread is currently at 300 posts

I'd say seize the opportunity, however ends up making the next thread. Where should it be added, exactly?

>>51596188
]I was thinking the same thing. I'd say throw it in under the EotE/AoR/FaD Folder Link

Lemme go grab the link to the particular file in the folder...

>>51596234
Here it is.

Shipfag's Starship Combat Fixes for EotE/AoR/FaD
>http://www.mediafire.com/file/y9w713etmckbs98/Shipfag.JPG

>>51596092
>>51596095
Setting is called STAR WARS not Star Ambassadors or Star Senate. That shit was one of the reasons why the prequels suck.

>>51596296
>he can't into a war of words

>>51596348
Boring.

New Thread
>>51596398

>>51595942
Diplomats in Star Wars are prone to getting overly involved in conflicts, and even using blasters or lightsabers when things don't go their way. See: Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi as "Ambassadors"; Viceroy Bail Organa; Senator Padme Amidala; Princess Leia.

>>51589889
This.
I need some proud warrior race dudes to fill a villainous terrorist role in my game? I have Deathwatch, and my players can go 'ooooh, Deathwatch!'

But that isn't to say that you automatically shy away from the players discovering the last remaining survivor of an Imperial purge on some weird force tradition that listens to the winds and weather to auger the future.
Yes, the Baran-do sages exist, but how many of your players care in the same way they care about Mandos? Also there isn't anything wrong with duplicating similar themes - heck if someone at your table turns out to be a massive Baran-do sages fan - incorporate some story around those similarities later!
Canon vs. New stuff doesn't have to be mutually exclusive.

>>51592386
What the fuck is Macross? Is it a sport?