What's /tg/'s thoughts on Touhou? Smug girls and lasers

Ran a one-shot where the city of Greyhawk appeared one day on the shores of the Misty Lake. The party were low-level guards and merchants trying to survive amidst all the swarming youkai and spontaneous danmaku battles. They almost got eaten by Rumia, almost did a dine and dash on Mystia, and almost got lured into the bamboo forest by Tewi before Keine took them in at the human village.

>>51575390
All memery aside, touhou is fairly good on just about every aspect but the actual art, and even that improved at some point.

I'd run a campaign, but half the people i know of that would play it would immediately try to run off and fuck their respective waifu's, and i don't do ERP.

>>51576909
I do ERP.

>>51576950
I say that, but its more an issue that it'd never be a coherent campaign and they'd all be better off just going off and fapping to actual porn of the characters.

>>51575390
I think it died on /tg/ after 5e came out?

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>>51576909
>even that improved at some point
ZUN's art never got better, only smugger.

>>51575390
I've been baffled for years by anons talking about Touhou. Best I can get through research is that it's a genre of retro style game. But you faggots always go on about it like it's an IP with a specific setting and characters (which are all smug moeblob shitters). What's the fucking deal?

>>51577055
His style never changed, but are you seriously gonna tell me he didn't improve over EOSD sakuya?

he just got somewhat better at anatomy, which is an improvement

Also, smugger is better.

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>>51575390
>almost got lured into the bamboo forest by Tewi
That's very inconsistent m8, Tewi lures people OUT of the forest. This is a problem I'd have if I ever participated in a 2hu Campaign, I'd be REEing and calling the GM a secondary at every turn.

>>51577055
smug has a quality all its own

>>51577128
Bonus points for me quoting the wrong person and having a file that ends in "gif.gif". Obviously meant for >>51575534

>>51577066
It's a Korean visual novel series made by some fat guy named NUZ who's only notable for hating alcohol. The main character is a flying turtle called Genji who fucks every single one of the colorful cast of girls on his adventures.

>there are people on this board that don't remember when it was jokingly called /touhou games/

>>51577117
I'm joking.

>>51577066
well, it is an IP with a specific setting (a fantasy world in a parralel bubble dimension) thats basically fantasy life support.

There are specific characters, a shit ton of them, based on various monsters and gods from japanese myth's and legends.

The deal though is that the maker is pretty good at show don't tell stuff. With the music and variously named patterns of attacks the girls use, he managed to give each one an identity, simple though they were.

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>>51577066
It's a series of "bullet hell" type games: you know, the arcade games where you fly a spaceship from the bottom of the screen upwards while dodging ridiculous amounts of lasers and missiles and shooting at enemies, before finally confronting a boss that shoots even more lasers and missiles. Only in Touhou the spaceships are replaced with lolis and lasers and missiles with magic lasers and magic missiles. The gameplay is good if you like those types of games, the music is good as well, but the official art is godawful.

Usually when people talk about Touhou, they don't talk about the games themselves, though, but the shitloads of fanmade stuff that exists. Touhou has for some reason one the most prolific fanbases out there, and there's a ridiculous amount of doujins, music videos, fangames (such as a Touhous fighting game), and even a fanmade animation with quality higher than a lot of actual anime.

Basically, all you need to know is that there are lolis who wear silly hats, they fly and shoot lasers, and will probably eat you.

>>51577281
I've been looking for a good shoot'em game like that. Are there a vast amount of upgrades, weapon choices/combinations, and power-ups?

>>51577326

No. The only thing that upgrades are bosses

>>51577326
Thats dependant on the game itself.

Some have a good deal of options depending on character choice, others are much more simplistic only giving a couple.

The earliest game most people play is EOSD. In it, there are 2 "heroines" to play as, Reimu and marisa. Each one has 2 shot types that power up as you get items for it, and a bomb for each type. Different characters get different bombs with different uses.

Other games will have more or less people to play as, more options, different mechanics, no one game is exactly the same. Even just between EOSD and PCB there is a good degree of difference, including seeing your hitbox when you hold shift to slow down.

So the answer is that you choose your shot type, and get it to full power. Past that, you are stuck with your choice until you fail or win, and choose a different shot type to try.

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>>51575390
I've considered villains who go non-violent once they realize they aren't going to get their way, and eventually become passive, or possibly even allies. That whimsical quality where you sit down and have tea with the boss after defeating them is more what Touhou is about for me.

Gonna test it with my next group, which is 100% moralfags who are sure to leave every enemy stabilized at 0hp.

>>51577055

The fighting games have great art, though, so it works out.

>>51577326
All those traits you described are Euroshmup crap. 2hu is a pretty raw game, you usually have 2 or 3 shot types and the closest you get to a power-up is the Bomb, which is either a separate "item" by itself or is derived from your shot power from Th10 forwards.

>>51577777
>derived from your shot power from Th10 forwards.
really only in 10 and 11, dude.

>>51577777
checked

>>51577599
Well, yeah, but the art in those are done by some dude in Tasofro, so it doesn't really count torwards ZUN's art progression.

>>51577800
Oh ? I did play SA, but I've yet to play the others so I thought it stayed that way.
Can I also assume that you go back to needing MAX power to collect all points in the screen, then ?

>>51577835
Nope, in fact TH14 revolves entirely around collecting items from the top of the screen to get extra bombs and lives.

>>51577865
Why, of course, if it wasn't bad enough that Th10 is pretty much noextendslmao all along. One more question, are continues from MoF forwards the same as MoF (Start from the beginning of the stage) or do they go back to PCB style (Continue from where you died) ?

>>51577936
I'm pretty sure it went back to the way it once was but since I never use continues I'm not sure.

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>>51577974
Oh right, thanks for the info I guess. I'm still trying to get past Stage 4 in MoF and these new features are killing me. Not only is it just as long as PCB S4, but now I can't power my way through and by the time I get to Aya I have a life left or something like that because like I said, extends are a dying breed here.
Needless to say, I'm still a shitter.

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We had a story when entire party initially created rule 63 of touhou characters,and GM,being a touhoumon thought it was intentional and expected us to get all of his references.

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>>51578258
*We had a story ,when an entire party unintentionally created rule 63 of touhou characters,and GM,being a touhoufag ,thought that it was intentional and expected us to get all of his references.Shit was surreal.

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PCB has the best story

>frilly ghosts have stolen Spring
>are you a bad enough miko/witch/meido to rescue Spring?

>>51578464
That's not MS
>friendly demons take a vacation in Gensokyo
>miko/witch/skeleton go off to the demon world to beat the shit out of Satan for doing nothing wrong
>alternatively play as flower girl, terrorize and bully the demons and threaten to commit demon shoah

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>campaign where the PCs go on a righteous crusade to wipe out all the evil youkai of Gensokyo

Sounds fun desu

>>51578679
>>51578464
You've both spelled MoF wrong
>A god from the outside has set shop in Gensokyo and apparently you're a schizo, because voices are telling you to close your shrine
>Now beat the shit out of some 4 people completelyurelated to the incident for fun
And now that you've beaten said god you can go back to your empty donation box and sulk.

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>The (((new gods))) have introduced nuclear proliferation!
>are you a bad enough miko/witch to initiate SALT 1?

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>>51578932
>>51579151
still wrong
MS has the greatest 2hu story

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>>51579151
It all makes sense, Reimu is BB and Kanako and the Moriya crew are the Patriots. Gensokyo is the Big Shell, an elaborate ruse mission setup by Yukari Shalashaskumo.

>>51578679
Don't forget
>If you play as flower girl you stalk witch and make the other witch in the game your meido to learn magic

>>51579251
I'll be honest, i like IaMP story.

>little oni girl makes everyone start having sick ass parties in the hopes of getting other oni to join in. No such luck. Instead starts squatting at the miko's house

Ugh, I'm getting flashbacks to Stripe Pattern simultaneously shrieking about how Byakuren and Sanae are actually evil psychos who genocide the earth daily and doing Urobotchi's stupidass campaign artwork

Does he still fucking do shitty doujin?

>>51580233
If he doesn't, someone does. Its an inevitability of such a large and dedicated fanbase.

Pay it no heed, for it is retarded.

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>>51578464
>PCB
>not IN

>>51580321
Yeah, I remember Jiroo moved his emo doujin to Kantai, Zounose also does Kantai, too...

If anything, I'm glad there's less grimdark going around, but I left around the time SOPM's sequel got released and people were /pissed/ about the changes ZUN made.

>tfw nitori goes from shy kappa to racist, fedora-tipping antitheist, and capitalist asshole who brags about how she scams everyone
>tfw nitori became a libertarian

>>51580736
Yeah, kantai is much more easily viable for grimdark shit, despite touhou's fairly gritty backstory.

That, and boatfags actually thought they killed touhou at some point, which was hilarious, because 2 times they beat touhou in doujin sales.

>>51581935
The only really good thig to come out of botes are the abyssal designs and that only because biomech aesthetics are something I love.

>>51582017
>Still not an option to play as an abyssal fleet

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>>51580442
Lunarian Master Race

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>>51577281

I really loved fighting Suika in 7.5

I mean, for a start just getting to her is a stoneclad bitch on account of the fact that getting past Yukari without a continue is a fucking nightmare on account of how (accurately) broken she is.

So then you have a boss who doesn't just hit you, she also goes after your power bar, the timer and finally your health bar. So you're stuck there trying to deal enough damage as she summons forth the black hole like she's the final boss from Guyver or something.

>>51577326

The main draw with Touhou is the intricately designed bullet patterns on the bosses.
I mean, go looking for the level 3 (I think, might be 4) from Subterranean Animism where the Oni summons forth a fucking river of bullets, complete with trees and waves and you have to navigate your way through it.

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>>51582364
>Reisen
>Hallucinatory Electromagnetic wavs
Wew Lad

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>>51575390

I like it best when the more escosteric aspects are aknowledged like American space marines and their fairy allies from hell fighting against Lunarians and their Amazon-moon rabbit forces armed with the most advanced technology and magic known to man.

In fact, Gensokyo is one of the few settings where you can have a tribal shaman from the darkest reaches of Africa, an aged Japanese geurilla from World War II who still doesn't know the war ended, a fairy who manipulates ice, and an 80s robot given sentience by a magical red substance in the same party and it would somewhat make sense.

>>51582017
I would say design wise its not bad in general, but the fanbase can get really uppity about dumb shit.

Not that touhou's doesn't, but touhou doesn't tend to attack other fandoms.

>>51582448
Not even just electromagnetic. Any type of wave, really, can be manipulated by her. Sound for example. She's unique in that regard among moon bunnies.

>>51582508
>I like it best when the more escosteric aspects are aknowledged like American space marines and their fairy allies from hell fighting against Lunarians and their Amazon-moon rabbit forces armed with the most advanced technology and magic known to man.
secondaries get out reeeeeeeeee

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>>51582730

>>51582730

...Okay, maybe the Americans and fairies didn't actually fight the Lunarians at the same time, but that doesn't sound as cool. I've 1CCed EoSD, honest.

>When you're the guy that tells Secondaries all the lies that they procede to parrot because it sounds cooler than actual history

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>>51582567
>Any type of wave, really, can be manipulated by her. Sound for example.
What's stopping her from hitting the resonance frequency of everything to break things apart on an atomic level?

>>51582792
magic

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>>51582792
>So, just to make sure the point on this is too fine, even if the frequency is dialed in perfectly, most things can not be destroyed by resonance.
Touhou Guide

Magic .

>>51582792
Resistance. Things do still have inertia despite her ability, and do resist it as a result.

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>>51582929

>When arbitrary limitations are placed on your abilities but the power to destroy everything is given to a child with no strings attached

>>51582953
There are actually strings attached. She can't use her ability without her hands, its just that most people in gensokyo aren't specialized in hand to hand

>>51582953

How did Flandre get her abilities anyway? It can't be because she's a vampire, since other vampires don't seem to have that amount of power.

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>>51582953
Flan isn't even that powerful, if you want to see absolutely broken abilities talk to Yuyuko "I can "invite" anyone to die" Saigyouji, though I'm sure she's more than mature enough to understand the consequences and the fact she shouldn't use it.

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>>51582953
>>51582986
>>51582990

>>51582996
She is and does. Its why she never has. Thats actually been outright confirmed.

>>51582990
Flan and remi are unique to themselves. Its probably their unique abilities due to being as powerful as they are.

Have you seen the sheer amount of aura they can emit at will?

>>51582809
>>51582929
>>51582950
What about radiation? Stuff is melt-proof?

>>51582996

Yuyuko is a very-much needed failsafe in case Reimu or any of the other S-listers were to go bananas and start abusing their powers. She has exactly the personality needed to ensure her abilities aren't abused, which makes her actual danger level relatively low unless you're intentionally being needlessly evil.

>>51583086
Oh no, not at all. But it does resist it. Reisen does have that ability in SWR and hisoutensoku. Its one of her average abilities, even.

But things will resist it, through inertia or sheer magical aura.

>>51583093
Frankly, thats more up to eiki. Even then, the system is set up so that the S-listers would fight each other should any one go insane.

That and most of them are elder youkai that know whats up in general, and realize it'd be a bad idea. Mamizou, as an example.

>>51583093
>She has exactly the personality needed to ensure her abilities aren't abused, which makes her actual danger level relatively low unless you're intentionally being needlessly evil.
From your point of view

>>51583200
From her backstory. She suicided to prevent her power from killing others for no reason.

His description isn't wrong, and its been pretty much confirmed that she does indeed reign in that ability because she doesn't like killing people.

>>51582996
>implying that killing anyone will stop them from just beating the shit out of Komachi and coming back as a ghost to carry on doing whatever they were doing
Tenshi shits over shinigami all the time and Komachi's only the ferrywoman.

>>51583353
Komachi is lazy, not weak.

>>51583370
That describes 3/4 of the characters.

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>>51583370
>Komachi is lazy, not weak.
Komachi please.

>>51583353
What
>>51583370
Said. That and the fact that if anyone is really up to no good, like, going so psycho that Reimu can't solve it tier, that person would be going against a lot more than just Yuyuko and the Ministry of Right and Wrong.
You have to remember that aside from Yukari and crew, there's still the SDM, the tengu and Youkai Mountain people (Aya being confirmed to have gone easy on Reimu), the celestials, and so on.

>>51583480

So, what was plan B in SA if Reimu hadn't been able to put down Nuclear Powered Yatagarasu? Just have Yukari create a boundary between her and the nuclear power she was using or something?

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>>51583552
Youmu would have been last line of defense as the Prophecy foretold

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>>51583645

>Eternal Nuclear Winter in Gensyoko

CIRNOS TIME HAS COME

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>>51583689
>CIRNOS TIME HAS COME
Sadly no.

>>51583552
Reimu's power is always winning if something becomes an [incident], so she is the Plan A, and the Plan B.

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>>51583689
>>51583645
>>51583552
IT WILL BE A SILENT SPRING

>>51583552
The thing about it is, okuu is not the strongest being in gensokyo. Any number of elder youkai can counter her. She's basically fire cirno on crack, so she's not terribly hard to deal with. Even cirno was able to fight against her for an extended period, and thats cirno's natural enemy.

Gensokyo is built on a really thin balance of checks and balances where its a free for all stand still.

>>51583751
>reimu's power is always winning

This actually isn't true. Its stated that she has lost and retried several times, and will continue to until she does win.

She does have unfair techniques, but nothing outright broken.

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>>51583645
You Speak of Lies. The Prophecy spoke of a Human Goddess.

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>>51583741

>Did you ever hear the tragedy of Al Gore "the wise"? I thought not. It's not a story the Mikos would tell you. It's an Outside World legend. Al Gore was a Vice President of the Outside, so powerful and so wise he could use technology to influence the environment and preserve life... He had such a knowledge of the science that he could even keep the ice caps, such as the type your ice fairy relies on, from melting. Technology is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful... the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. It's ironic he could save the environment from death, but not himself.

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>>51584266
Is it possible to learn this power?

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>>51584457

Not from a Shrine Maiden.

>>51584266
Funny thing is, cirno doesn't seem to rely on the environment like other fairies.

She can act at full capacity despite environmental effects.

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>>51577281
The art is a very interesting case of "Let's see YOU do better!"

ZUN is good at one thing: He makes each instantly recognizable. That's how this works so well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lNZ_Rnr7Jc

He's great at character design, just...not at closing the deal. But other people picked up on it, and ran with it.

>>51582792
Also, if she tried that, Reimu takes off the kiddy gloves.

You don't want that.

No one wants that.

>>51584676
Indeed. Let us not forget the time she fought Okuu in a reactor before finally leaving of her own accord.

>>51575390
Back when I first started coming to this board, it was not uncommon to refer to /tg/ as standing for Touhou Games.

So I 'm gonna say at least the smug lolis have some history here.

>>51585169
and then went on to fight goliath, no worse for wear.

>>51585095
He's also really loose with the IP, and welcomes fan works at a level most would think insane, even going so far as to add certain fan interactions into the games, albeit on his terms.

Its created a really connected and generally nice community.

>>51585116
This, seriously. 90% of Gensokyo's named residents can destroy everything if they actually used their powers to their full extent. That's why everything is handled with comparatively tame bullet hell danmaku battles and spell cards: any two characters going all-out against each other is likely to be apocalyptic.

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>>51577326
>Are there a vast amount of upgrades, weapon choices/combinations, and power-ups?
No, this is cancer for babies. Open your heart to CAVE's DonPachi series (and everything else they made) and you will see the light. otherwise Gradius 3/5 is what you want

>>51583332
Sauce?

>>51582567
>Not even just electromagnetic. Any type of wave, really, can be manipulated by her.
That sounds pretty damn hax if you really think about it. Hell, at the quantum level EVERYTHING is a wave to some extent.

>>51586638
Indeed it is. Its why her soku skillset is so damn trippy.

That said, she can only really control things that are waves at a regular level, not quantum. Controlling sound, light, radiation, and electromagnetism is still a fairly diverse power, all things considered

>>51577128
Well, not exactly lured in by Tewi. The party spotted her and a bunch of rabbits in the forest and almost ran after them until they got spooked by dozens of little red eyes. Ran away from the forest and straight to the human village.

>>51586740
probably the smart thing to do. Tewi may bear no ill will to humans, but that doesn't mean the other dwellers of the bamboo forest don't.

Had they walked in, they'd have had to hope to god that tewi or mokou would save them.

Since all the ones made for it aren't that good, what other systems WOULD work for a Touhou game?

>>51588420
well, its recent and only has the one translation and set of pastebins, but kamigakari would probably fit the bill.

The issue is that most systems made for it try to quantify the abilities as they are in the series. Unfortunately, many of them aren't quantifiable at all, like remi's fate manipulation.

>>51586924
I really emphasized the power gap between the average denizen of Gensokyo and low-level D&D characters. Rumia was a terrifying monster devouring guards in seconds. Until the party saw her crash into a tree and pass out.

>>51589015
I mean, technically the human village does have people trained to fight youkai. Just not on the level of reimu or marisa.

Also, rumia is a specifically anti-human monster. Her shtick is eating people bones and all. Frankly, it would be more than a little sad if she couldn't eat some random shmucks. She'd have starved ages ago.

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>>51589015

The terrifying thing isn't just that any non-fairy/villager character is abnormally powerful, but they're also disproportionately low-leveled for their amount of strength. Subscribing to the "Nobody in real life has ever passed level 5" theory as a benchmark for how much experience it would take to "level up" (as Gensokyo is technically a subdivision of a "real life" setting), Reimu and Marisa are likely not even in the double-digits yet (especially Reimu whose lack of training has been emphasized) but have enough raw power to take on beings that far outstrip their alleged experience ratings, meaning they're not even close to peak ability. Sanae is less experienced but has made hints of what a max-level shrine maiden is like, and the answer is something close to "Physical Goddess".

>>51589056

Rumia is malnourished due to finding it difficult to actually capture anybody with her abilities, and she's unintelligent enough that one can fool her by saying they're a native of Gensokyo, even if they aren't. Of course, one needs to know that this is actually a rule in Gensokyo in order to invoke it, which I doubt a pack of common-speaking guards would, or even be able to communicate with her for the matter.

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>>51588523

Well, rather than start by giving everyone boss-level abilities, why not try Gensokyo from the PoV of lower-end characters? For instance, a outside world soldier whose very effective at fighting mundane threats such as other humans, animals, and machines but finds themselves quickly overwhelmed by youkai, a fairy who is terrible at fighting mundane threats but excels in repelling youkai and fellow fairies with her abilities, a lesser youkai who has all sorts of weird utility abilities depending on what they are such as a lamp Tsukumogami with light-based abilities, and a human villager who has a leg up in knowing whose who and can converse with some of the major characters to keep them from attacking everyone else on-sight. They're not going to be stopping an Incident that requires Reimu's attention on their own, but they can stop an issue from erupting into an incident while it's still low key, or simply interact in the setting in weird ways similar to the manga featuring similar low-key individuals like Rinnosuke or the Three Fairies of Light.

By endgame, they might get strong enough to be compared alongside the ranks of Cirno and Wriggle who with clever use of their abilities keep themselves on an even footing with main characters in a Danmaku fight, or a less-conventional encounter detailing the exploitation of character flaws and/or quirks in order to overcome the raw strength difference, much like in the folklore that Touhou was based on.

>>51583751
Isn't Reimu's power to be above things?

>>51589794
>"Physical Goddess".
But that's Byakuren.

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What's her Character Aligment

>>51589916
More or less- she's able to basically fuck off from reality for a bit so she can just "no" anything coming at her, so presumably in the event of an incident where the rules have been broken and spell card system is not in play reimu would be using that to fuck the culprit up from beyond their reach.

so how does Remilia's fate manipulation work? can she just go "you are fated to die from heart attack in 40 seconds" on people?

are anime protagonists her natural enemy?

>>51585851

Well she is the strongest after all.

>>51590658
It's not really known, but it is implied that she can greatly shunt the will of the universe in her favor, but not to the point of a guaranteed win

>>51575390
I had a years-long private RP that went from shipping a stereotypically violent Yuuka who fancied herself a vigilante and Flandre to weird shit like Old Testament/Kabbalah/Islamic/various-pagan-religions demons who were forced out of Makai attacking the surface to nearly all of the Imperishable Night cast going to the moon to stop a raging civil war between Chang'e and Tsukiyomi (which basically was Einhander vs. Ketsui) that culminated in Eirin having to rescue a clone of herself, who acted exactly as every stereotypical evil Eirin did in pretty much every fucking doujin ever.


Also, it had a really kind and sweet Eirin who ruined me, because 99% of the Eirin depictions I come across has her as the world's biggest asshole who makes everyone on Umbrella's payroll look sane and balanced.

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>>51590935
>Eirin

>>51590384
Chaotic Neutral, just like 95% of everyone in that setting.

>>51590384
So/Nanoka

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How do you guys feel about Awoo?

>>51591172
>-4 INT, -4 WIS

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>>51591311
Jp hates her becausd of pol.
Media labelled her and by extension Touhou as a hate symbol and white supremacist video game.
Rather conflicted.

>>51589794
It was a playtest for a homebrew system, I just used Greyhawk and Gensokyo as the setting because I thought it would be fun. To further emphasize the power gap, I had the party witness danmaku battles between Reimu/Marisa/1-2 other playable characters and some of the more powerful inhabitants of Greyhawk. As they ran for the gates, they'd see the head of the mage's guild flinging fireballs while dodging lasers and homing amulets. Get to the city gates and there's blood and limbs all over the ground as a ball of darkness swallows those on watch duty. I should do another low-level game sometime, that was fun.

>>51591376
>becausd of pol.
What ? /jp/ hates her because she's not even a character. It's pretty much a foolproof secondary detector, anyone says their waifu or favorite character is Momiji and rest assured, that person is either memeing or a secondary.

>>51592615
You can like her character design or her spell cards. Koakuma is also a midboss with no lines and look at all the love she gets.

>>51593366
She's also got the benefit of being part of the SDM crew so can be easly lumped in with them for fanstuff.

Speaking of characters who're less well known than, I'd like to see some of the major PC98s come back or be mentioned in some way, particularly the HRTP ones as it would be interesting to see how they'd play in a true danmaku game and with actual dialogue.

>>51591376
Of course. This is why nobody is believing the media anymore. Anybody with slightly different ideas is a Nazi and any memes they may use is also a hate symbol.

They never do their research and always get told how wrong they are.

Don't worry about it. Even classic liberals now a days like Sargon are called evil racists. Everyone is tired of their garbage.

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Stat her, /tg/.

>>51593366
Don't get me wrong, I love her design myself and really wish to see her become an actual character, but so far, all that we know is that she plays shogi and may have a rivalry against Aya. Even her tail and wolf ears are fan additions.
>spell cards
Now, I never played MoF on Lunatic, but far as I know, she doesn't have any.

>>51593679
Am I missing something here ? Did Momiji become the Pepe of /jp/ or something ?
Post a link if you don't mind.

>>51593808
I was just responding. >>51591376 might have the link claiming that Momji "Awooo" is the new Pepe.

>>51593840
Oh well, I'd like to know more but hey. Might also have to do with the MAGA ohayou pic.
It would actually pretty funny if the "white supremacist wolf girl" or something equally silly appeared on CNN, we're in need of new memes anyway.

>>51593729
>Flowers fall, everyone dies

>>51593729
STR: Yes
CON: Very

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>>51591376
>Jp hates her becausd of pol.
What

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What does /tg/ think of 2hu Sephiroth?

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>>51595660
Best newhu, the rest were okay I guess, Hecatia and Clownshit can go drink Clorox. Magical Clorox.

>>51595725
What did Hecka do to you, kiddo?

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>>51595725
>Clownshit
That ain't her name

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>>51577281
>fangames (such as a Touhous fighting game)
The fighting games are official, though.

>>51575390
>What's /tg/'s thoughts on Touhou?
https://youtu.be/E7lHJXPKoX0

>>51577936
>are continues from MoF forwards the same as MoF (Start from the beginning of the stage) or do they go back to PCB style (Continue from where you died) ?
11 and 12 use MoF's system, but 13 and onward went back to the old system.

>>51595725
>we allow lunarians to post on /tg/

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>>51595725
Doremy a cute

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>>51595882
You'd be quite surprised...

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>>51593729
>>51594555
Tiefling druid (the druid variant that gets barbarian rage instead of wild shape)
STR 18, DEX 7, CON 18, INT 14, WIS 16, CHA 5 BUST 36F

>>51593759
Momiji has spell cards in Impossible Spell Card, a spinoff game where everyone (both you and your opponents) are intentionally breaking the spell card rules and throwing cards at each other that are meant to be unbeatable. It's a pretty cool game.

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>>51594555

>>51596054
>CHA 5

Thats absolute bullshit. Her intimidate skill is through the fucking roof.

Her dex is also probably at least average.

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Why is she so perfect?

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>>51575390
>dropping in without reading the thread
I actually finished GMing a game in a heavily-modified version of that old as balls Tale of Phantasmal Land system recently. The mechanics were shaky but playing in the world was fun, even for me as the GM.

The plot was garbage and full of memes because as it turned out my players were all mostly secondaries who find the games too hard. Mima stole Reimu's balls and the players had to be bad enough dudes to get them back from Reimaden before the shrine maiden came back from slamming Seija on suspicion of theft.

Turned out I underestimated one of the PCs' bitch potential. One of them couldn't fly, so they beat up Marisa and borrowed her broom, flew to Hakugyokurou, bullied Youmu into giving them leads, fucked off over to Myourenji to steal the ship and travel to Makai (as I'd hinted that Reimaden kinda was/wasn't in Makai at once), then actually started playing along once they made such a mess that Shinki got involved. After that it was fun as fuck I even snuck in a couple of donutsteels without anyone noticing

Does anyone know of any other good 2hu-specific systems out there? I had a look at Flowers, too, but it seems borderline unplayable.

>>51596349
Str-boosted intimidate

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>>51596370
She wasn't tainted by those shitty Windows games, obviously.

>>51596436
But even in the PC-98 games themselves she's such a fun character.

>>51596349
>>51596400
Skill focus (intimidate) and a trait could make up for a bit.
She's the slowest character in PoFV so that's why I thought she'd have below-average Dex. Maybe it's just that she's so in tune with the earth that she's terrible at flying as a result.

Now that i think about it, Oread is a much better race choice.

>>51596400
Okay, what about her bluff? Gather information? Diplomacy?

Even if her STR boosts it, She is still an extremely charismatic person, in the same way that a terrible tyrant can still be charismatic.

>>51596465
Another explanation is that she goes slow because she didn't exactly need to go fast. Most of the other characters were totally unaware of what was happening. Yuuka was the first to realize it, followed by cirno. Thus, there was no urgency to yuuka doing things. She just wandered around, knocking heads until she got to eiki.

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>>51596460
She's unapologetically evil and doesn't really care about playing nice, and only stays in check in the later games because she cares more about bullying Reimu than causing widespread havoc. Even in her PoDD ending when she wishes to become massively powerful, her first thought is "let's use this power to fuck with Reimu."

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>>51595858
Thank fucking god, I finally got to Kanakek but I really don't feel good about it, not after I discovered I've got infinite continues and probably used 5 of them.
Or more.

>>51596561
Well, the game actively makes fun of you for using continues at all, so that doesn't change. The only one where this isn't the case is 15's point device mode where you basically have infinite lives.

>>51596140
Right right, I think she also appears on DS or StB, now that I think about it.

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>>51596536
*in the later PC-98 games

One thing I wish we got from Mima was more interaction with Marisa. They don't really have any association with each other whatsoever after SoEW, not counting their post-battle dialogue when they fight in PoDD.

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>>51575390
/jp/ was created as a containment board for Touhou because it triggered fa/tg/uys.
It didn't help that the shitposting came from both sides.
The Touhou Hijack meme was actually created here and some people used to call /tg/ Touhou General.

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>>51596595
True that, first time beating PCB I got the bad end and it basically turned smug on me by saying "Try winning without continues next". On the other hand, I heard Junko mocks you if you reach her with no continues on Legacy.
>>51596396
Post donuts, I swear I won't steel them.

>>51596698
Junko mocks you if you get to her on Legacy in anything but a No-Miss run, saying you struggled to get there. She uses dialogue identical to her Pointdevice dialogue if you get to her in a No-Miss Legacy run.

>>51596396

>Beat up Marisa in order to steal her broom

Don't they know that broom doesn't actually have any magic powers on its own? Though, the idea of someone stealing from Marisa is hilarious.

>>51596054
She's charismatic enough to walk around in the village without much issue, the only issue she has is a terrible reputation (that she probably cultivates).

She'd just come off across to someone who doesn't know about her as a slightly eccentric lady who lives by herself. Of course, everyone in Gensokyo knows about her because she's old.

>>51596396
Okay, in terms of sheer skill, there is no DnD PC imaginable that can go up against youmu.

She fights on even ground with world breaker classes, easily beating aya's max speed, through skill alone rather than an innate ability. Your PC's never stood a chance of bullying youmu.

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>>51596840
>easily beating aya's max speed
But Aya's the FASTEST, delet this.

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>>51596943
But is she faster than the fastest guy in the universe?

>>51596943
I said she beat her max speed, not max sustained. Aya can keep up a great speed for as long as she wishes, where-as youmu can only do it in bursts.

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>>51596698
I don't have anything other than names, fluff and some shitty barely-ZUN-quality tokens I drew them which I'm too embarrassed to post pic sorta related

>>51596790
The system we were playing said the broom was magical, so we decided to roll with it. Yeah, it was one of the highlights. Immediately following that event the PCs walked into a fairy invasion after someone caught wind of what they'd had the balls to do.

>>51596840
One of the characters knew Yuyuko, who was watching; a fair fight wasn't something she could have given them at the time. Watch some more endings.
>also power is relative, etc.

The more I think about the game the better I remember it going, actually. Making up as many new spell cards as I did was hell on a bike but it was surprisingly fun getting into the spirit of things during combats.

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>>51597057
Oh right, so we're talking about a SR-71 VS X-51a kinda deal here.
>>51597088
There's no shame in being autistic, we all are. Post donut names and backstory.

>>51597088
Oh, so yuyuko basically made youmu take being bullied. Thats literally the only situation where youmu wouldn't fillet you.

>>51597157
Yep. Slash of eternity is a hell of a thing

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>>51597364
Is this that survival spell that lasts like 20 seconds where she strafes side to side while raining bullets onto you ?
Because that's my absolute favorite, though I just call it the "bomber card", for a good reason of course.

>>51597606
There's that version in PCB, and there's the version from soku that doesn't actually slow down time.

Either way, its fast enough that they had to slow down the game to allow you to dodge it in PCB, which even aya's cards never did.

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Can your party even TOUCH Knife Meido?

Keep in mind that she has 1,000,000 knives and can move at infinite speed with no ass.

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>>51597741
>with no ass
Why do i want to touch that?

>>51597741
She doesn't have a million, she's probably got around 50-100 that she carries around. Its been stated that she just picks up the used ones when she runs out because no one can stop her from doing so.

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>>51596634
>>51596536

Is it weird I view Mima as not actually evil, but like the diet coke of evil? As in, she has an extremely mild view of what evil is (e.g.: harassing people, harassing various magical beings, harassing small children, laughing evilly, having wild-ass schemes to scam the Gensokyo populace out of money), but as soon as something actually evil/assholish pops up (like, uh, say, soul-eating tree or murderious youkai rampage), she's on the good guys' side?

>>51596692
its ok to talk bout touhou again yo.

>>51598106
She expressed a desire to kill humans as a vengeful spirit. All of them.

Though, with 3 humans in her employ in SoEW, at least one of which stuck around, she either picks favorites, makes exceptions, or was just trying to egg Raymay on.

>>51598106
Its the same thing that put team rocket on ash's side in several of the movies.

Whats the point of being evil if theres no world to evil in?

its an enemy of my enemy type of thing.

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>>51598233
It's either the very last option, and/or she really sucks at killing humans, not to mention she kept Marisa on to harass/mentor.

>>51598239
Holy fuck, that was exactly what I was going for, but I completely forgot about the movies. :V

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>>51597708
Oh, right, you're talking about Youmu. I mean, while in lore Aya IS the fastest, it just so happens that Youmu's gimmick is that they slow shit up.

It exists in my play groups collective vtm universe, though initially as a joke.

Through a long string of unfortunate events one of my pcs works for/was sold to the Scarlett devil mansion as a night gate keeper/playmate in order to garente the survival of his lord and his lords companions after they accidentally traveled there, note that my pc was the only non elder vampire amongst them.

Whenever i use this pc, its assumed that it is an off season at the manor and he is allowed to leave gensokyo

>>51598395
To be fair, they both have a card like that.

Also, nowhere in lore does it say shes "The fastest". Thats self proclaimed. Marisa's a self proclaimed ordinary magician, and she fights with S-listers on a regular basis.

She's easily one of the fastest, but both byakuren and youmu can give her a run for her money in a sheer speed contest. Byakuren can move faster than musou fuuin, something very few people can do.

>>51598479
>Fucking up in VTM so badly you end up as a 2hu's personal toy
i've got to admit, i'm impressed, when you fuck up, you fuck up big time.

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>>51598488
Okay, fine, she IS supposed to be the super proud tengu and all that, so I guess she does exaggerate from time to time. But then again, wouldn't Youmu saying she can cut all kinds of shit plus do it at a speed of [Insert archaic japanese unit of measure here] also be kinda self proclaimed ?

>>51598732
Her ability to cut anything is more bragging about the quality of roukanken than anything, and as for her speed, thats something i mathed out myself. She never outright brags about that.

>>51598732
>>51598395
It's less of a gimmick and more that she's travelling at relativistic speeds so shit slows down.

>>51598761
Well, yeah, she does keep pushing it onto your face that her swords were forged by youkai and whatnot.
About the speed thing, I'm pretty sure it comes from one of her spellcard's name, which, related to the other comment, contains some rather ridiculous units. But really, I never take card names too seriously, else we'd have a bunch of shit about Seiga actually collecting fetuses to throw at people or Nitori being a walking nuclear sub.

On another note, give me the maths, did you do it with character size and pixel by pixel calculations ? I'm interested.

>>51598918
>he doesn't like the grim darkness of the grim dark future where there are only cute girls with frilly hats

>>51598946
Zounouse plz go, no Byakuren doesn't eat babies to keep her youth dammit. No Sanae didn't have to eat a sacrificial kid, dammit. No, Akyuu wasn't gonna get wiped out of the face of the universe (That one almost made me cry a little), DAMMIT.

>>51598918
Its actually way simpler than that.

If you look at soku's version of slash of eternity, you notice two things. The first is that she hits twice for every hit on the counter (Both slashes tend to pulse at the same time, meaning two slashes), and that she isn't using myon as a springboard, meaning she's doing it through sheer personal skill alone. She is also keeping a perfect square shape the entire time, but this isn't really important.

This adds to about 33 hits, not counting the first and last one. Byakurens best in a spellcard is 22 or so, from Hopeless masquerade. aya's best spellcard in this sense is illusionary dominance, where she hits around 27 times, and you can see her in each one where she hits.

On the note of spellcard names, you are talking about 200 yojana in one slash, and that is an obvious exaggeration. IF that were to be taken on faith, youmu would move at mach 70. If she moved at that speed she'd rocket into space.

>>51599088
No, that explains everything. Youmu didn't appear in LoLK because she tried to fly to the moon, and ended up overshooting it before anyone else tried to fix things.

>>51599088
Sorry, i forgot to mention, Aya's spellcard does the brunt of the hits in 6 or so seconds, byakurens in 3, youmu's in 2. I discounted the first or last hits on youmu's and byakurens because they aren't part of the speed portion, acting as starters or follow ups.

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>>51599088
>Soku
Well shit, you lost me for a second, I didn't play any of the fighting games yet so I didn't know about any of this.
Whenever I thought about character speed I would think about Illusionary Dominance in MoF and any of Youmu's spellcards from the Stage 5 battle. By the last 5 seconds of Aya's spell you literally can't see her moving anymore, unlike with Youmu.
But I'll take your answer, that's some very interdasting stuff.

>>51599151
Yeah, but Aya builds speed up. She doesn't shoot her wad all in one go like the other girls, she has actual momentum.

>>51599211
Well, keep in mind that in youmu's spellcards it actually slows the game itself down, unlike with aya.

The reason i used soku and HM as a meter though is because its more internally consistent.

>>51599231
Which is why youmu has higher max speed, but aya has higher sustained, like i said earlier. Byakuren is a close second to youmu in max, beating aya barely, but is below both in sustained.

>>51595725
I prefer Junko as my newhu of choice, although hecatacia and the gu are alright.

>>51599258
I suppose you have a point about Youmu slowing bullets down, so I guess I'll grant her the title of second fastest in Gensokyo (^:. All kidding aside, I guess six decades of sword training in a world where everyone is dead does make you ridiculously fast.
>>51599276
>Hecatia
Eh, I just don't ... like her really. Nothing about her character stood out to me, and the poor fashion sense didn't help.

>>51598991
>i disregard canon because it disgusts me
Youkai eat people and are honestly very terrible asshole creatures, cry harder.

>>51599339
There's a bit more talked about hottopica in latest FS chapter, where shiki speaks fairly fondly of her. And there's also the bit where she's a lot more familiar with outside world compared to other touhous which would be part of her fashion sense. She doesn't blend in but its sorta intentional there. The real question is how do her multiple bodies work- are they each a separate instance of her that can communicate between each other or is she a single consciousness in many bodies.

>>51599339
>six decades

Where the hell did that number come from?

>>51599361
>trying to survive is an assholish thing

First, not all youkai eat humans. Some subsist on simply surprising or messing with them.

Second, simply doing what you were made to do does not make you assholish. If a lion eats a gazelle, its not a crime is it? so why is it a crime when a youkai eats a human? the short answer is that its a double standard based on self-preservation.

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>>51599361
>I create grimderp headcanon and parade it around, shooting down everyone who doesn't take it because THEY'RE the real secondaries
It's written all over your post, buddy.

>>51599423
Probably the former.

>>51599423
>where shiki speaks fairly fondly of her
Or rather, where Shiki gives her the benefit of doubt AT BEST.
>>51599440
Seasonal Dream Vision. It's implied the CD that Youmu is at the very least 60 year of age, though it doesn''t give an exact figure. That and I doubt she'd be a lot older, like hundreds of years of age, because she's still part human after all.

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>>51599500
>>51599423
>where shiki speaks fairly fondly of her
You mean, where in Visionary Fairies Shikieiki states Hecatia's higher on the judgement scale than she is and is literally doing the best she can as someone who's supposed to punish the evil dead? Like the greek Hades being the nicest god around?

>>51599685
>Hades being the nicest god around
Reminder, by punishing the wicked, Satan is being the best goy out there. Thus, on the same page, we shouldn't view the oni who punish people in Hell as evil, but as, uh, kindergarden teachers!

>>51582364
>No CAUTION: SUNFLOWERS
>Not even a CAUTION: NUCLEAR RADIATION
that better be an incomplete version

>>51598681
It wasn't even his fault, an as sad as it is its prob safer in gensokyo than outside when it comes to the shit that happens to him.

He's an official denizen there so he won't be killed by irate passers-by only beaten the shit out of, and ive been playing as him for a long time so his stats are inflated by now so he can at least outrun a good portion of shit.

Gen 10 gangel
5 str 4 dex 5 stam
3 cha 4 man 2 ape
4 per 3 int 5 wit

Solid all around talents, skills, knowledge including 5 brawl 5 athletic 5 stealth

4 potence 3 celerity 5 fortitude 5 protein 3 animalism 2 auspex

Statistically he's a monster, however as a person he is the saddest looking most depressed gangrel who looks like a 12 year old your ever gonna lay eyes on

>>51599445
Why are there so many retards who crow about canon and shriek every time there's a depiction of youkai that isn't a baby-eating monster, never mind "extermination" is outright stated to be equivalent to "go away + magic", and SOPM, they explicitly say nothing's set in canon? I know ZUN and company decided to subvert it in the sequel and pumping out official doujins, but still. There's a bunch of doujin that get mad at other doujin for not making every youkai a baby-eating monster and they're all edgelord trash.

>>51598991
jesus christ and i thought stripe pattern was awful

what is with zounouse and cannibals?

>>51600090
>pissing off so many things gensokyo is a safer place to be
Anon plz, what the shit did you do? Did you manage to enrage your whole clan or some shit? god damn.

>>51599361
>a shitty grimderp doujin is canon

lmao you thought stripe pattern was a good author, too, didn't you

>>51600125
I seriously have no idea. His Momiji story was cool, his Youmu story was cool, his Akyuu one, sad and iffy as it was, was cool. But then he goes full apeshit and all the sudden Shou mangled Nazrin and now the Myouren crew made her into a vegan but they put human blood into their veggies and the real Nazrin has PTSD et cetera et cetera, bonus points for Byakuren eating babies.
>>51600110
Beats me, anon, beats me. Everyone knows SOME youkai eat humans, but the grimfags feel the need to ignore the fact that suicidal humans from the outside serve as a replacement food source and whatnot, thus no real loss happens.

>>51600125
Because the man's made of 400% edge. He's like a hypercube of edge.

>>51600264
naw, that's stripe pattern. zounouse has some humor but stripe pattern is basically urobotchi at his worse, amped to unironic levels

It helps Stripe Pattern is a good friend of Urobotchi and did artwork for him when he was fully in his misanthropic phase.

That said, Zounouse somehow manages to be more irritating, somehow. It might be the lame "hurrr byakuren r ebil" shit started by Stripe Pattern, it might be the fact he isn't as self aware as Asatsuki Dou.

>>51600381
oh yeah and don't forget, stripe pattern /actually fucking quotes from text to 'prove' that byakuren is a mass murdering genocidalist and wrote a doujin that hated on comedic portrayals of suwako and kanako/

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Reminder that Rumia should technically be a grimdark people-eating youkai but she has one of the lowest threat levels in all of gensokyo because of how easy it is to trick her

By comparison, Chen is a more dangerous youkai

>>51600222
>>51600222
That reminds me, I know it was a thing among THP and the West to divide youkai into 'civilized' and traditional/monster-style 'ferals' that are basically RPG monsters - do many doujin do this? Most don't deal with the areas outside of the populated region.

>>51599500
She has to be less than 60, due to PoFV. Maybe in the span of time between the two she hit 60, but thats a very very rough estimate at best.

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>>51600443

Don't bully Rumia!
She's a GOOD GIRL!

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>>51600443
Well yeah, working for someone who works for the big cheese of Gensokyo means you get to swing your weight around.

Compare one of the weakest things around, who only gets by because she's a jerk who can dodge things REALLY well.

I don't like SHMUPs so I don't play the mainline games, but the official manga are great for getting yourself into the headspace of animism and other eastern mythos stuff. I read them a while back to prepare for a campaign that drew on Shinto for inspiration.

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>>51600450

There's a ton of doujin, grimdark and not, that address feral youkai.
But they treat them as cookie-cutter mobs that are little more than animals, as powerful as a dog.

The problem with inserting "normal" youkai in a touhou setting is that all of the named touhou characters are retardedly broken.

Even the weakest of fairies in the canon is part of the highest echelon of power that kind of youkai can reach.
Chen is "just" a nekomata, but she's still at the age where levelling a country is within her capabilities.
Even humans like Marisa have gone past their own limits to a degree where they can fight on equal ground with world-class youkai even outside of spellcard fight rules.

"Normal" youkai have no grounds to stand on.
Even if you pickest the strongest feral possible, it'd be useless.
Even pitting the strongest insect against the weakest of dinosaurs will produce a very short fight.

In a way, everyone in Gensokyo is so fucking broken that they're actually pretty balanced.

>>51600471
Yeah, I guess I should've meant she was around 60, not at least, but I do think she was present during the last flower event of 60 years ago. Note, I think.
>>51600583
Well, tell us more about it anon.

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All this talk about power levels, and all I'd want to see is more use of the youkai whose powers aren't for combat.

I mean, we have a youkai pair whose powers are reading your conscious or unconscious mind, and the concept is never used for anything past making gag manga.

A very interesting pairing would be Hata and Satori.
A youkai that can't express any emotions, and a youkai able to read them. It'd be fun.

>>51600615
If i remember correctly, she wasn't around, but as both a gardener and half-phantom, she realized what was up more quickly than others did.

>>51600633
Thats sort of the joke between koishi and kokoro.

Admittedly, there does need to be more displays of power from those with less combat useful ones.

>>51600600

To that I'd add that sentience is one of the staples that Japanese folklore uses to signify the birth of a powerful youkai
So the fact that a youkai is feral in itself would mean that it's weaker than a sentient one (eg: all of gensokyo)

>>51600131
K to abridge his background he's part of a cam knight circle thats existed since before the anarch revolt, he himself was recruited in the last few days of ww2 after he attacked its leader while he was on the verge of total loss of humanity, the leader being a swell wackjob of a warrior salubri that he is decided to recruit and re educate him personally. Up untill this point the longest a recruit has lasted under him is a few days at most due to his antics such as charging sabat packs solo and fist fighting werewolves. To date my pc has lasted the longest under him several times over.

As for enemys he's pissed of an elder black hand member, a scorpion eater, arch bishop of Seattle and former bishop of New York. The entirety of Anarch russia, a few werewolves, varous sabat packs, a few hunter groups, former bishop of vegas(killed in 1v1), barron samdi, and a few others

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>>51575390
I'm terrible, simply awful at the games, and I think I might be a secondary because I only ever came to it after finding a lot of pictures on here. I only understand the very basics of the lore, and I'm not very confident about it -- I know that Gensokoyou is a sort of fairy land with lots of youkai, and vampires and other things, and I grasp what danmaku and spell cards are, but that's about it.

But the girls are cute, and it's a good way to kill time if I feel like getting frustrated.

>>51601415
If you've played the games, you're not a secondary.

>>51601304
woah dude here i try to always rember happy day and here u are doing me the great spook of all times how yuo can do this i wonder greatly it must be that you is literal hitlersatanturk

>>51593477
Being a Sariel fan is true suffering.

>>51601713
That theme is always the best part.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOSg0Mrk_N8
I managed a good ending on normal mode once. Fun game once you get the hang of it.

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>>51600443
I really like the fan theory that the talisman in her hair keeps her docile and relatively weak.
I always figured she's only dumb because the talisman screws with her head as a way to keep her from remembering her tremendous cosmic powers.

I want her to be the strongest. It would be delicious.

>Smug girls and lasers aside
But what's left then?
Honestly though, sell me on this, OP. What's the setting like, what's interesting about Gensokyo?

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>>51601713
It's a real shame ZUN chose to retcon everything PC-98 besides the four characters that made it past the border, I imagine characters like Sariel would have been fleshed out at least a little via manga appearances. I also bet Sumireko wouldn't stick out so horribly if she was in the same universe as characters like regular human mechanic Rika and scientific dimension hoppers Chiyuri and Yumemi.

>>51596840

Aya has to hold back her speed or she'll quickly finder herself crashing into the edge of the border, hence her statement of "going easy" of Reimu. If it weren't for the fact the location she's in is so restricting, she could defeat a great many mortal foes by liquifying their insides with sonic booms.

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>>51601846
That map is wrong though.

This one isn't much better, but it's more correct.

>>51601874
Cute girls doing ridiculous things, then sitting down together to have tea, cookies, and sometimes drunken parties.

It's the highest power levels paired with the highest comfy, with a healthy dose of waifus around every corner.

It's also not really a setting, in the sense of a game setting. So your question isn't accurately answerable.

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>>51601874
>what's interesting about Gensokyo?
It has a retarded nuclear demon bird

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>>51601883
we all know what she meant anon.

>>51597167

>Fillet

I think you mean bludgeon until your bones were powdered. According to the fighting games, her sword is magically unable to cut flesh- it's a safety sword, and it only cuts things that are inanimate, as well as concepts. Still, hitting object+hypersonic acceleration should allow her to do enough concussive damage to ruin any living thing it hits, regardless if it cuts or not.

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>>51601874
Not OP, but to put it simply, it's a setting in which the power scale is so over the top that everyone is broken--so they sort of all agree and/or are coerced into a dueling tradition that's made of lasers and sparkles, because if they piss the magical protagonist off enough to make her stop being a lazy shit for real and she's seriously threatened, some powerful and inspecific deity or deities will bitch slap everyone until they are a fine mist.

Also, the character designs are interesting, it does the fantasy kitchen sink in a way that's loose and celebratory rather than autistic and overthought, and cute things are fun.

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>>51601913
Okuu isn't retarded! She's just slow!

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>>51601953

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>>51601846
>>51601896
>nameless hill
>has a name

What does it mean?

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>>51601953
If Okuu is a total bird brain, but she has nuclear power
does that mean she's like those Iraqi nuclear engineers who think that the reactors they got from western countries run on magic?
Also, assuming that's true, wouldn't she technically be correct?

This is very confusing.

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>>51601940

Well technically, there is a lower end of the scale where the moon rabbits and operators and cute fairies fall...

But nobody cares about that part.

>>51575390
dont you know /tg/ stands for /touhou games/?

>>51601940
>tfw you're the only one who ships reimu/marisa/alice/patcholi

>>51602010
I imagine Utsuho is genius-level knowledgeable about shit like science and nuclear engineering and all that fancy shit, but she has so little common sense that she talks and acts like a dunce when she isn't spouting technobabble and she's really ignorant about shit like history and literature and nerd shit like that. That's just my secondary headcanon though, I might be dead wrong.

>>51601713
>>51601798
I don't think Sariel actually has fans so much as her theme does. It is a really good theme though.

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>>51601990
>listening to link related
>open gif
>mfw

Jesus Christ

https://yungbaebae.bandcamp.com/track/lets-dance

>>51602065
>bro its touhou
>there are ships for every possible combination of characters, including characters that don't even exist yet
>you are never alone
>2hu best fandom, brother

Feels comfy man

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>>51602092
That's actually correct. Only thing she knows is nuclear fusion and that's kinda it, headroom filled

I'm banned from /jp/ right now, can I hang out with you guys? I know nothing about tabletop games though.

Anyway, I like Touhou's setting because it has a very nice equilibrium between being cheery and having darker themes. If you look at the mangas they're mostly relaxed SoL stuff, but then you get chapters like the Fortune Teller one where the most minimal disruption to the borders between human and youkai is retaliated with extreme violence. It's really interesting.

>>51601874
The other responses so far have all been focused about "so OP characters!" and waifus and shit but that's not the setting at all.

The coolest thing about the setting, to me, is that it's written by an eastern mythology nerd for other eastern mythology nerds. It's a huge (and accessible, thanks to all the translations) fantasy setting that draws inspiration from what is, to me, a foreign and exotic mythology. I think most of us have been to exposed to western fantasy concepts that it's all very cliche to us by now. Having fantasy drawn from a less intimately source helps reinforce the "fantastic aspect" of fantasy. You don't even blink at the idea of the Minotaur anymore, but some weird japanese spirit you've never heard of might leave more of an impression.

>>51601713
Hey, you're talking to a guy who played as Shingyoku and Yumeko, once.

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>>51602289
Only if you tell us why you got banned from /jp/.

>>51601850
The RP I was in did use this, but instead of superpowered little girl, she turned into an Eldritch, Hedorah-style mass of pitch-black and teeth who hated everything, and especially hated the fact she had been sealed and found things like 'friendship' and 'human companionship'.

>>51602314
This post
https://warosu.org/jp/thread/S16523816#p16523931

If you don't get it that girl is a seiyuu in Love Live who was found out to have starred in a JAV in 2008. The guy that fucked her said she had poor hygiene

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>>51596840
>there is no DnD PC imaginable that can go up against youmu.

Not even the 3.5 TheoreticalOp board's builds?

>>51602397
they probably took charisma as a dump stat, so yes

>>51596840

Pun-Pun is not only an accurate example of how a Touhou character is made (low level, high-power), but probably would be able to take her out as soon as he set his sights on her. She's has to be in the same room as her target, after all.

But Pun-Pun still couldn't beat Yuyuko, because technically she's already "defeated", as in dead.

>>51596840
Its a good thing i've been playing Anima then.

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>>51602474
Not the ones that need Cha for their shenanigans!

Youmu doesn't have that good Cha, she's too soft for that.

>>51596840
You too easily forget of the great, Pun-Pun, destroyer of balance.

>>51597741
one of our Anima party members has 20 agility, so, yes.

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>>51602344
fucking kek, that ban was worth it.

>>51602344
>3dpd 0/10 would not bang shit

lmao @ u

>>51602344
fuck man /jp/'s mods are no fun allowed, thats hilarious.

>>51602344
RT CRITICAL
LT CRITICAL
You're welcome here, man.

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>>51603519
An Anon got banned for this

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>>51603568
to be fair
Commies are only good for REMOVE

>>51603568
man if this was a year ago mods would have laughed their asses off at this with the rest of them, did some newfag asshole mod get in there and fuck up the whole board?

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>>51603568
>>51603657
/pol/ pls go

>>51603681
4chins stopped being a seekrit club and mod quality went downhill

>>51603698
i miss when we were a tight little community and a seekrit club, things were so much more comfy then.

>>51601919
Holy shit look at the meat on that bird. You could feed a family of 12 for days.

>>51602092
She's an idiot savant, like Rainman. Knows everything she needs to about nuclear fusion to run the reactors and keep from exploding, but is dumber/more gullible than Cirno, as well as being a ditz with her literal bird brain. She's also a mook tier youkai that is the strongest of her race, like Cirno before CP got hellbuffs.

Play Soku.

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>>51603843
>dumber/more gullible than Cirno
That is physically impossible

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>>51603916
Yoshika is dumber than both of them by a long shot. Anything's possible in the land of the impossible.

>>51603843

Okuu might be able to be decommissioned by a good tap to the head with a blunt instrument, but good luck actually hitting her.

>>51603843
>her race
Is there a race of hellcrows in Touhou? Do we ever see others?

>>51604550
No they are extinct. Okuu the only one left

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>>51604599
apology for poor english

when were you when hellcrow dies?

i was sat at home eating smegma butter when pjotr ring

‘crow is kill’

‘no’

>>51604599
What? No. There's dozens in stage 6 of Touhou 11.

>>51604694
And one Reimu later they went extinct.

I haven't played any touhou games. Where should I start?

>>51605547

6, 2, or perhaps 8.

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I'm currently in the process of designing a Touhou themed cube for M:TG; here's a card.

>>51605547
8

>>51600615
>official manga
The ones I know of are Silent Sinner in Blue and this. http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/touhou-ibarakasen-wild-and-horned-hermit-r2307

>>51605651
>Arena but it can carry a sword
>Arena but it dies to bolt
I'm not sure how to r8 it m80

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>>51605547
Subterranean Animism

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>>51605948
Well ideally it would be balanced within the context of the cube itself; it's gonna be a 360-card custom set. Gonna need to do heavy play testing to make sure everything is fun/balanced to draft. Unfortunately it's way easier/more fun to design bombs

>>51605948
It's also got built in evasion, it's pretty good. Give it the right sword and it'll eat bolts forever.

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After (beginning) reading Forbidden Scrollery, I decided to add a bunch of yokai and Gensokyo-ish stuff to my setting's Feywild.
Also, I have a goddess whose appearance I based on the Aki sisters.

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>>51606364
Wrong!

>>51606364
Why aren't the Aki sisters more popular.
They're comfy and their themes are good.

>>51606649
No real relationship to the rest of the cast and lack of official appearances would be my guess. MoF stage 1 does indeed have great music though.

>>51600691
True, but you also had fuckers like the orochi, raijin, Tsuchinoko, and that giant ghost rooster - I think the raijin can be sapient, but from their descriptions of attack, it could just as well be a well-coordinated feral behavior.

>>51600222
iirc there's the implication "eat" means something else that isn't vore

on top of the suicidal humans, i VAGUELY recall braindead/actually dead humans being used to feed the carnivorous ones

>>51575390

I'm not a giant spergaloid so Touhou never did much for me.

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>>51606810
Wrong!

>>51606815
>is on /tg/ but denies being a spergaloid

hey look everyone i bet he's going to tell us he visits something awful and owns a house, too

>>51606833
>stripe pattern is talked about
>it's only now someone posts stripe pattern

oh goody now all we need next are the flamefests over how "innovate" and interesting stripe pattern's interpretation is

>>51601883
Her power actually directly avoids sonic booms. She's only capable of that speed by removing the air pressure directly around her from her wind based powers.

She is indeed fast, but she can't beat an oni, as a base example. For that matter, tengu at one point were subordinate to oni. Yukari's border shenanigans would also easily beat her. Sakuya technically moves at infinite speed.

Sorry if you are an ayafag, but thats just a gross overestimation.

>>51601939
Thats probably more of an effect similar to myon's ability to hit things. She just hardens energy around the swords edge as a sort of guard.

The sword thats actually incapable of hurting people is the other one, hakurouken. It'll still hurt like a bitch, but won't cause permanent damage to living targets.

>>51602010
In the same way that you insinctively know how your arm moves, eating the yatagarasu lets okuu instinctively know how her ability works.

You don't know all the math behind moving your arm, but you do know how to do so. Same idea.

She probably thinks about it about as much as you do about your arm.

>>51602789
>>51602581
I must be way outta the loop, the fuck is a "Pun-pun"?

>>51603940
Thats not a fair comparison, yoshika's brain is literally rotted.

>>51607137
You gotta be waaay out of the loop.
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Pun-Pun
Pun-pun: or "how to get your DM to kick you because your are a passive aggressive faggot".

>>51605547
Six is the best entry point, as its got the least gimmicks.

It is the game in its purest form, and as such is a good basis to start from. The lack of a visible hitbox when slowed is a bit annoying, but its good practice for estimating it when not in slow mode.