Warhammer 40k general /40kg/

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Now we wait

>>51572024
Second for Ynnari.

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I dont get what this is saying

I can always just move my guys onto the field on my table edge, or the 2 short edges?

What if im playing Hammer and Anvil and the short edge is my opponents?

>>51572057
You go on his side.

There's another rule that lets you do that too.

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DA BEAST better come an stomp dem humies and spiky boyz

>>51572057

>if able to do so

Scout and infiltrators can roll in on a flank, and anything with Deepstrike can Deepstrike.

>>51572024
Awuuuuuu

>>51572073
So, its just letting me use deepstrike and outflanking on turn 1? Do I still have to roll for reserves?

The wording is absolutely fucked

>>51572024
it needs the other wolf on the chariot

>>51572102
>>51572057

This sounds like a custom mission not formation/dt bonus. "Eldar player" obviously suggest it, its wording used in campaign missions.

>>51572057
your table edge and opponents table edge are self explanatory, short edge are the sides. this wording suggests that the units you would be moving on are in reserves, and that you would not have to roll for them.

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>>51572125
Ah, I see

>>51572102

You should read it again. I don't see what's so hard about it.

>Hold everything in reserve
>T1, being in as many things from reserve as you want
>scouts and infiltrators can outflank
>this means they can come in from a table edge
>jump units, raiders, ect have Deepstrike
>this means they can Deepstrike
>anything you didn't bring in stays in reserve
>roll for reserves on T2 as normal

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> Start playing 40k like two months ago
> Love it
> Go crazy buying/building/painting models
> Am finally at the point where my Army is big enough that I can start looking at Formations and their various benefits

Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit this is awesome

>>51572125
This is it, seeing as it also refers to your table edge separate from the "short" table edges, implying the board setup is pre-determined

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>>51572156

Sail on sailor, dont let anyone bring you down, try as they will

>>51572153

I'm so glad I did this

Does anyone have a scan of Fall of Cadia? Or at the very least a scan of Cawl's full rules, not just those boxed with the mini?

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Reminder that the Night Lords theme song has been found at long last

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=IUGzY-ihqWc&feature=share

FAQ:
>Dubstep is gay lol?
Dubstep suits many chaotic factions as it is fairly chaotic
Also this song is hardly Dubstep

>I listened to three seconds and I thought it was shit?
No, you are shit. Try lasting longer than you do in bed next time, before giving a review

>If this music isn't to my personal taste, does that mean it is the wrong song for the Night Lords?
No

>ITS NOT METAL I CAN SHAKE MY NECKBEARD TO????
Metal music doesn't suit chaos, this isn't the 80s. The Night Lords have evolved a lot in the last 8-10 years, so get on board or fuck off. Metal only really suits World Eaters, even then, probably Hardcore.

>My Emps Children love the shit metal though!!!
No, your structured music would bore them to death. Please read current fluff, not your 80s shit

>LOL LOOK MY SHIT SONG ABOUT BATS OR LIGHTNING IS FUNNY
*Pat pat* nice original joke, friend

>Does the above point apply for any of my other "funny" song ideas?
Yes.

>I know more about music than you because that is brostep, not dubstep
Doesn't change the fact that it is the correct song for the Night Lords

I want a 10 bikers Ravenwing Black Knights squad but I'm a poorfag. (That would be around 130€)
I will use normal ravenwing bikes from eBay (they're cheap because of Dark Vengeance) and convert them into Black Knights.
Give me ideas on how to convert them, please
Need to have:
> Plasma Talon
> Corvus Hammers
> Badass look
> remain cheap
What do?

What do I equip on my exalted sorcerers to make them worth fielding?
What about my scarab occult terminators?
If possible, what about my rubrics?

>>51572219
you equip them with 30k rules

>>51572203
this fits better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06Ot0DaN1hM

>>51572181
just buy the $50 book dude.

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>>51572170

Thanks.

It seems there are some formations which are basically "1-X units of Y", which seems fairly convenient if you were planning on taking Y, since now it's a separate formation and doesn't take up a slot in a CAD.

>>51572156
I am guessing Orks. Have you found their theme song yet?

>>51572227

He's actually autistic. Just filter him.

>>51572232
careful, some of those arent formations, but parts of the decurion. Formations that can be taken by themselves always have their own page.

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>>51572226
Is there no way to make them decent with 40k WoM/Traitors rules?

>>51572203
I know what suits Word Bearers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0t1LDynSvs

>>51572263
no

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>>51572203
>"We have come you" for spoke the marine, in the spookiest voice he could
>As he spoke the Night Lord fondled his hedge clipper impatiently
>"But first let me play you the song of my legion!"
>WUB WUB WUUUUUUB! WUB WUB wub Wub
>The anon before him fell to his knees
>"Stop please, I beg you! Its so shit!"
>The Night Lord sparked the throttle on his hedge clipper, its throaty roar merely added to the cacophony of shit musical taste
>"Kill Me, Kill Me now! I can't stand it anymore!" Screamed anon
>"Another metal head anon." wept the Night Lord, his tears half drowning him in his helmet
>The hedge clipper made short work of anon. But soon other anons heard the shit music
>And the cycle repeated

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>>51572275

>>51572280
of course there is they'll just be entirely situational like 90% of the units in 40k.

>>51572263

You can savage people in fluffy games, but thats it.

>Its another /tg/ tells new Ork players to field Boys and Trukks edition

>>51572306
wat

There hasnt been a single mention of boyz or trukks in the thread so far

>>51572306
Ork players can field whatever they want and like. If you are only looking competitive lists for Orks, you are doing Orks wrong. Bloody git.

>>51572317
They're I2, you've got to wait a couple of posts.

>>51572306
>YFW you realise the only advice the Ork player has received is to find a theme song

Hoping Deldar get something that isn't just "plug craftworlders into your army to make it work properly"

>>51572325
>Ork players can field whatever they want
>Why do Ork players do nothing but whine!

Difference between competitive builds, working builds, and the shit /tg/ suggests like Boys and Trukks.

>>51572234
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y61DLw88dBA

Is it worth giving my NL Raptor champ a power sword or claw? For now, I'm only running them as two squads of 5 with meltas, but I can still charge transport occupants.

>>51572227
Thanks for your opinion. It is wrong, but any contribution is appreciated.

>>51572367
Power Sword, use chain glaive from FW to represent it, no one will question it because Rule of Cool.

That or go two claws, but that gets expensive.

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>>51572232

Oh, I know. Thank you though. I'm going through the Angels of Death book right now, checking out different datasheets for things. Gotta get some more mechanized units.

>>51572234

Space Marines. I even came up with my own custom chapter. I'm a basic bitch I guess. I thought about Orks, but everyone told me they were fun to model but godawful on the table. I like some of their stuff though. If you were big into conversions/kitbashing/etc they seem like they would be the perfect army.

Speaking of conversions, good lord who designed the dual treads on the Tauroxes? They look ridiculous unless you throw some actual wheels on them.

>>51572391

I would love a pair of claws, but like you said, expensive. CSM don't even get the discount for the pair, so it's 30pts on a 1W model.

I could use a glaive. I need some for 30k anyway. It would be sweet if they could actually take them, though.

>>51572352

Also I don't play Orks, it was just easier to find a picture of an Ork smiling than it was to find a picture of a Space Marine smiling.

Take that how you will.

>>51572458
What chapter?

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>>51572458

>>51572466

Plays as Iron Hands. I like walkers and mobile armor so that seemed like a natural fit. I thought about going IG instead since their tanks were way better statwise, but I figured the last thing I needed while I was learning how to paint minis was a horde army.

>>51572490

FEMALE SPACE MARINE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>51572494
There's a full tank army you can play with only a few Mech Vets for objectives and shit. (30-40 dudes total.)

Imperial Armour, Armoured Battle Group.

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>>51572501
much meme very humerus.

>>51572501
Is there anyone who is actually bothered by the thought of Female space marines here? I mean i think the general consensus is not that we hate the idea its just its not necessary in the game to have females represented in every role.

Eye of Ezekiel novel
Dying Lion
Azrael has to beg Cypher for help
Ezekiel possessed and no one detects it
Truly the gay legion is the home of evil degeneracy- just like that Breitbart bumfucker

>>51572526
There is a good in-universe reason why there aren't any. The hate of female space marines is just the logical reaction to the push for female space marines by others. If geneseed were fluffed differently right from the start I don't think anyone would mind.

>>51572517

Yeah but I couldn't have afforded that while I was just starting off.

>>51572526

> Is there anyone who is actually bothered by the thought of Female space marines here? I mean i think the general consensus is not that we hate the idea its just its not necessary in the game to have females represented in every role.

I think it's more like dudes feel that women and/or "gender politics" are intruding on all of their hobbies while simultaneously attempting to shame them for having fun, and they find tabletop wargaming to be one of the last few predominantly male safe spaces that they have left. It's easy to see how people could be defensive about it.

>>51572553
Thats what i meant there is no reason to change the fluff just to fit something irrelevant and that no one here is actually autisticaly bothered by just the idea.

>>51572071
The Beast lost

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>>51572563
>last few predominantly male safe spaces that they have left.

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>>51572526
The thought no, the noisy people clamouring to pound that square peg into 40k, yes.

What I AM bothered by is the insistence that female space marines after extensive enhancements, bulking, hormone treatments and layers of sloped armour wold be identifiable as female.

>>51572589

Know what's better than a space Marine? A fucking temple assassin.

>>51572563
>Safe Space
What now? Going were a safety pin, since Trump won?

If you want a safe space go to a university where those stupid things are in place.

Cuck

>>51572589
Exactly i agree with you entirely but lets not derail this thread any harder than its starting to get. On a scale of 1-10 how bad do you think that craftworld eldar is going to become the old eldar cheese?

>>51572575

> Videogames
> Sports
> Computers
> Role Playing
> etc

Tons of traditional "guy hobbies" have seen a large infusion of females over the past decade or so and have changed as a result. Whether or not that is a good thing is a subject for a completely different thread.

Tabletop wargaming is the grognardiest of hobbies, some dudes see how other hobbies have changed and they don't want to see that sort of change in wargaming.

>>51572629
What?

>>51572621

Safe Space in the metaphorical sense you dumbass, not in the physical "I'm a 20 year old co-ed and some guy smiled at me in the cafeteria and now I need a place to cry for 3 hours about how I was stare-raped" kind of safe space.

>>51572621
Woah, calm down oh triggered one. Put down the swastika coffee mug and just focus on painting your little mans like the rest of us.

>>51572645
On a scale of 1-10 how bad do you think the old eldar cheese is going to be compared to the new eldar cheese

>>51572631
It was your description of it as a "safe space" for guys that made me laugh.

Come on, Anon, fucking hell that's gay, and I'm a literal faggot who plays Eldar.

>>51572526
In universe they make no sense.

Model wise? Still do not make sense since they would look just like male marines.

Also at this scale unless you for something like SoB. With big boobs on the armour and noticible waist from afar you won't notice shit.

Look at any miniature model at this scale, unless they have huge boobs or a very define waist model armour parts you won't notice it.
Unless well the model is naked.

SoB make sense in universe and the boob and waist armour work perfectly to show they are women.

Unless you go out of your way to show they are women you end with things like Victorian miniatures alternative guardsmen, that unless you look very closely men and women look the same under combat fatigues.

>>51572526
Yes, Space Marines are supposed to be hyper masculine soldiers, masculinity is a big part of their identity. Also there's the fact that they were designed to be physically superior soldiers, and although there are very strong and fit women out there, it's simple biological fact that the most physically strong men (and Space Marines only take the very best remember) will always be stronger, by a large margin, than the most physically strong women. A female space marine would have to by necessity be written as a "man with boobs" to avoid ruining the space marine identity in which case, what's the point?

Female guardsmen I'm all cool with. Hell I'd like to see an all female regiment, and I wish GW would put out female Cadians (inb4 Cadia is kill)

>>51572665

> Literal faggot
> Plays Eldar

I believe it.

You gonna get Gangs of Commorragh?

Speaking of boxed games, are any of the 40K ones any good? Space Hulk looks like fun but is spendy as hell, but what about stuff like Lost Patrol and the assassins one?

>>51572648
>>51572652
Did you saw this >>51572631 ? He is a massive cuck.

I was just shitposting but damn he was actually serious.

>>51572684
>what's the point
Cause its biologically possible and in a galaxy covered in bizare alterations and outcomes arising from different planetary conditions acknowledging it helps flesh out the setting?

Personally I have no burning desire to see female Space Marines, I'd rather have SoB Boob plate get removed. I just find it totally puzzling how much of a conniption /tg/ throws over the idea

>>51572686
Yeah, even if it's just for Jetbikes for my Ynnari force.

Looks like a fun little game though.

>>51572699

> Calls someone a cuck unironically

/pol/ is that way, friendo

>>51572704
>I'd rather have SoB Boob plate get removed

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REMINDER TO REMOVE YNNARI WHEN SIGHTED!

THEY ARE KINSLAYING, DEAMON WORSHIPPING BASTARDS THAT DESTROYED BIEL TAN!

REMOVE YNNARI!

>>51572686
Don't you mean Gangs of the Daemon infested ruins of Commorragh?

>>51572713
Yeah I think its unnecessary and ugly

Am I imagining things or do those Eldar rules seem even better than the stuff in the first Gathering Storm for the Imperium? Ynneari is certainly better than Greyfax as is their Triumvirate formation bonus. Their general utility also seems way more diverse and flexible than Cawl's and Celestine's rather basic "can't be killed" rules.

>>51572714
Ynnari are the future of the Eldar race, Ynnead is the only hope.

Also can we call non Ynnari fucking heretics now?

>>51572704
>I'd rather have SoB Boob plate get removed
It's an important part of their identity as Not-Men! under arms.

>>51572720
It's not like Vect and the Covens didn't just make another one.

>>51572728
Don't worry, they make up for it by losing everything in fluff.

Its apparently a deal GW's design studio made with the fluff writers. Since the fluff writers are always only gonna crap on the Eldar, in return the Design Studio were allowed to make them OP in the Crunch until the Fluff gets better

>>51572728
Who do you mean, Yvraine or the Yncarne?

>>51572731
>Ynnead
>future of the Eldar race
Nah, it's Eldar race future food for Ynnead.

>>51572731
No, that retarded imperial shit.

>>51572744
Oh right, meant Yvraine.

>>51572731
>Ynnead is the only hope
for the Imperium

Does the combined Aeldari list mean we can get Howling Banshees in Raiders now? Without having to pay an Allies tax or have them start out on foot?

>>51572747
>Nah, it's Eldar race future food for Ynnead.
Are you having a stroke?

>>51572704
I don't think it even is biologically possible to be honest with you, unless the female in question was some mutant in which case she might have a hard time getting picked to be a Space marine.

I used to think the same about SoB but then someone made a good point. The whole idea behind SoB is that they are not MEN at arms, they are women. So the armor is intentionally designed to show off their feminine features. Maybe this was originally so that their army would never be confused as male soldiers, and persists to this day as a symbolic thing. But I guess I can understand people getting upset about boobplate.

>>51572737
You could literally remove it and I wouldn't notice. The presence of giant moulded boobs on their armour has never stood out to me at all as an important part of their character compared to their religious imagery

You can feel free to like it. But I don't

http://imgur.com/a/dbR41

Have this been posted yet?

>>51572771
>remove it and I wouldn't notice
No point then.

>>51572739
But they don't. They run away and make a new smaller city which is nowhere near as large as Commoragh since Commoragh was described as being incomparably the largest realm within the Webway. Vect and the Covens don't recreate Commoragh, Dark Eldar have been permantenly and drastically reduced in strength

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>>51572755
>>51572747

>the day when 40k finally falled into normalfags who enjoying noblebright progressive nu-Imperium

>>51572770
Mutants are frequently among the Space Marines. From the Space Wolves to the Black Dragons. The recent novel of Vorago's Fastness even concerns this.

>>51572779
Touche. Poor choice of words on my behalf. I should say that I don't consider it important and would prefer them without it.

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>>51572787

>>51572787
So what? Ynnead still consuming Eldar souls like Slaanesh and just turned them into small Imperium sub-faction without future.

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>>51572773

>>51572799
>just turned them into small Imperium sub-faction without future.

Seriously, stop making up your own headcanon.

>>51572787
Name a battle Ynnead has won. If its the salvation for the Eldar and God level of strength it should be doing some pretty impressive victories. Name one.

Does it destroy a Blackstone Fortress like the Imperium did in FoC? Make Abaddon run? Name a victory it achieves. At current all your doing is posting bland platitudes of 'maybe it will' or 'it could one day'. Mention one solid victory it actually wins.

>>51572793
Black dragons have a mutation on their geneseed brah and the Sisters have to be overtly female to obey the ban on men under arms.

>>51572793
Yeah but those are mutated by the Space Marine making process itself. I mean if we go by that logic almost all Chapters have some serious mutations. But I don't think most chapters would accept someone into their ranks who was already a mutant.

Anyway doesn't matter, at the end of the day it's not scifi, it's fantasy in space. They can do whatever they want.

>>51572790
Its coming anon, Age of Girlyman is upon us. Gonna see Eldar turned into Guard 2.0 and Imperium turn into Noblebright Empire of great glory

>>51572812
>baiting this poorly
Have a (You) in hopes it stops your shitposting.

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Eldar are retarded

Stop making gods already all you ever do is fuck everything up

>>51572812
How about the book gets released first.
THEN you can compare it to decades worth of imperial books?

>>51572806
Lolwut? Most of Eldars were destroyed by Ynnead and Chaos the survivors surrender to Imperium and give them all knowledges, from returning to live Guilliman to Webway

>>51572814
You seem to be getting confused here. No-one is saying Sisters of battle aren't women, that's not even being discussed.

Additionally I know the Black Dragons have a mutation on their geneseed. What is your point?

>>51572815
>Anyway doesn't matter, at the end of the day it's not scifi, it's fantasy in space. They can do whatever they want.
Agreed

>>51572817
Wait i thought it was Age of the Emperor did it get changed cause someone saw a primarch or something?

Anyone got the leaks for the stats yet or is it only the special rules that have been leaked???

>>51572812
>Name a battle Ynnead has won.
Well, he consumed Bile-Tan.

Which weapons should I put on Tomb Blades?

>>51572820
So you can't answer? Thought so

>>51572817
Well I guess it's time to travel.

>>51572825
Some Eldar die, the Eldar RESCUE the Imperials being chased by Chaos, and then eventually revive Guilliman.

>>51572822
>Stop making gods already all you ever do is fuck everything up
This is pretty much Eldar

>>51572836
How is that a victory? He's supposed to be on Biel-tan's side.

Oh wait your trolling them arne't you? Great m8

>>51572833
Then The Black Dragons aren't recruiting mutants.

>No-one is saying Sisters of battle aren't women, that's not even being discussed.

No the point is they have to be over(t)ly female in battle, thins waist and boob-plate accentuate that to make sure they cannot be mistaken for men.

>>51572862
>why has a god/faction whose first book isn't released yet not won any battles yet?

>>51572864
No they really don't need boobplate for that. But this is a fruitless discussion so I'll end it here. I almost forgot where I was

>>51572851
>Some Eldar die,
Almost all except Ynnari

>>51572881
To be fair Eldar have been around for at least twenty years haven't they? You'd expect at least 3 or 4 major wins in that.

I mean the Imperium in the last couple a years alone got Damnos/Sanctus/2nd Armageddon/Diamor/Gothic/Pandorax and more.

Even if I agree complaining before the book drops is dumb, I can understand Eldar fans being frustrated by the way GW shovels wins to the Imperium but not them

>>51572888
but the fucking book isn't out yet an the WD says nothing of the sort.

cite your source and quote.

>>51572864
>No the point is they have to be over(t)ly female in battle, thins waist and boob-plate accentuate that to make sure they cannot be mistaken for men.

That's not really a thing they need. It's a design decision but they can follow the No Men Under Arms without it.

>>51572902
>an the WD says nothing of the sort.
WD literally saying that most of remaining Eldars now with Ynnari.

>>51572907

That's not the same thing as they die. Ynnari has plenty of living supporters.

>>51572907
SOURCE AND QUOTE

>>51572913
Ynnead, Ynnari are the faction supporting Ynnead.

>>51572898
This is a side note, since I think I already see where this discussion is headed, but I just wanted to note that I always see when someone does make a reasonable post like this, so not going balistic about a book that isn't out yet, but just pointing out that Eldar do get treated like shit in the fluff, no-one can really say anything.

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>>51572907
No, it doesn't. Read it again.

>yfw Ynnead is Slaanesh

>>51572933
Fucking hell we're gonna get so much ultrasmurf wanking in the days to come. Ynnead's pretty much universally agreed to be shit by the boards and everyone's getting ready to ride Roboute's dick.

Ward really has come back

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>>51572913
This implies that only a minority don't join the Ynnari

>>51572936
I actually wholeheartedly subscribe to this interpretation. It makes Ynnead's proclivities to team killing make sense and its also pretty ingenious by Chaos

>>51572359
Boyz are decent if you use them as the cheap expendable troops they are.

You may think trukks are inexpensive for them at 35 points but then you've got to realize that you should only be paying 70-80 points on a boyz squad (of 10), that's a 50% or so price increase. Same goes for giving the nob a klaw, it's not worth it.

Give them shootas, give them a nob and MAYBE give them a big choppa to break rear armour. Run them as a wave to catch bullets give cover saves to your units behind to make up for lack of armour/invulnerable saves.

So is Guilliman going to take his gloves back off Calgar?

>>51572933
Yep it does, go away normie.

>>51572960
Why bother?
Who needs powerfists with a stombolter when he has one with a heavy bolter and flamer?

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>>51572945
>Though the Reborn seek to reforge Eldar society in Ynnead's name and restore the glory of the ancient Ayyyldari, their arrogant coercion of their race's fate has alienated as many Eldar as it has united.

READ, MOTHERFUCKER

>>51572971
Gimme a quote, screencap, photo, anything of where it says that.

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>>51572822
Hey buddy, at least their gods do something.

When was the last time gork or mork helped your shitty >I2 ass out?
Do they even exist? I'm starting to think Gork n Mork are the only supernatural entities in the setting NOT to exist!

>>51572990
You forgot malal

>>51572925
Thanks. Yeah I was actually in a thread yesterday where there was a rare consensus that the Eldar do actually get to hard done by in the fluff (normally cause of Marine wank) but it was more the rarity than the norm.

Basically at this point I'm just watching and waiting for Eldar or Orks to get a major win. I got a soft spot for the oldies even if I play Guard myself (and I'm glad bad as our rep is it at least isn't Eldar or Orks bad). But I'd really like to see characters outside the Marine spectrum finally be competent again. Like Ghazghkull or Eldrad actually achieving something or coming across as impressive, instead of both coming across like ineffectual Saturday Cartoon villains.

I mean GW's already shown that, when they really try, they can make non-Marine characters impressive (Farsight and Shadowsun) so I'd just like for some of that to be applied to the Eldar and Orks to. And to a lesser extent the Necron.

>>51572945
I really wouldn't trust the ynari i mean they litterally get power from eating/using souls of their brothers and sisters. That is some slaaneshy bullshit if you ask me

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>>51572960
Nah. They wouldn't fit anyways, now that primarchs are enormous rather than marine sized.

>>51572980
>their arrogant coercion of their race's fate has alienated as many Eldar as it has united.
And 95% of anti-Ynnari died on Biel-Tan, go away normie.

>>51572990
As a Eldar player I'd rather have Gork and Mork. I mean Gork and Mork at least never blew up Ullanor and killed Ghazghkull personally.

Also, side question, why are Warp Gods so weak other than the big four? Like Gork and mork, Ynnead Khaine and co. aren't even Primarch level

>>51573003
>have no proofs
>spout bullshit
>get proven wrong by his own posted information
>reeeee you're wrong normie
can you stop

>>51572998
>That is some slaaneshy bullshit if you ask me
Well actually GW confirmed it, Slaanesh and Ynnead are siblings, and Ynnari actions empowering Sllanesh presence in galaxy

>>51573001
Do you think loyalist primarchs will be MCs in 40k?

>>51572834
>he doesn't know

>>51572990
I actually play both, I've always prefered Xenos to Imperium (kill me I know) and Orks and Eldar together were always kinda my fave.

It breaks my heart to see what's become of them

>>51573010
Only after you, Mat.

>>51573011
Great now we got another fucking chaos god. Thanks Aeldari it's just what we needed. Not like the imperium doesn't have enough trouble already

>>51573003
>He thinks Biel-Tan is all the Eldar.

Anon, there's dozens of Craftworlds all as big as Biel-Tan.

>>51573015
I don't think so, but they probably will retain their basically-MC stats and rules.

>>51573018
Oh i know about Gulliman coming back but changing your end time narrative just makes the entire narrative seems stupid

>>51573024
>Anon, there's dozens of Craftworlds all as big as Biel-Tan.
Nope, all other named craftworld were attacked by Chaos/Ynnari, only Yanden survived with 1% population.

>>51572998
That's actually a plot point.

>many see the Ynnari as corrupted by the very daemonic forces they seek to thwart, while others believe they are already dead inside.

>>51573037
inb4 this is GW's plot to turn all non imperium and tau factions to chaos so that chaos seems like an actual threat

>>51573036
Stop making shit up or provide proof.

>>51573007
>Like Gork and mork
Never shown on the TT
>Ynnead
New god also a shard wearing a empowered mortal shell.
>Khaine
as above, but evne more shards.

>>51573007
Because the big four are so aggressive in cultivating their power.

Other gods make due with only the faith of their followers but the big four go out of their way to tear holes in realspace and drag entire planets worth of souls back to their realm to devour and every soul they devour makes them more powerful.

They also go out of their way to corrupt the minds of mortals and trick them in to not only surrendering their souls but to send them other people's souls in exchange for 'rewards'.
It's all just a big, infernal pyramid scheme.

>Black Templar primary Space Marine force in Gathering Storm 1 and 2
>get 1 mediocre Formation with 220+ points of unnecessary units you need to take in order to get the main benefit
>Ultramarines only involved on the side and by accident
>get their Primarch back in book 3

I'm not even asking for Dorn to reappear or to get some broken tier 1 formation, but I really hope the Ultramarine favouritism tones down a bit as more Primarchs show up and the Imperium gets treated more and more as 1 army rather than a dozen.

>>51573043
I think it's just a way to legitimize the regular craftworld/dark eldar players keeping their armies free of the new rules. The yneldar are doing some definitely risky, not kosher shit, and people aren't going to be cool with that.

>>51572994
I play Harlequins and am kinda new to the lore, but I had this initial period where I was super into it, but then it kinda all died down when I read deeper and found out the Primarchs are all stronger Psykers than the Eldar and better warriors than the Phoenix Lords and we win like no major battles.

Is there a way to change it? Or can you recommend any good Eldar fluff where they win? Cause I've not been able to find anything.

I'm still stupidly happy that a Primarch has returned even if it is Ultraturds.

>>51573024
No. Literally no. Biel-tan is the only Craftworld to ever even beat a single Space Marine force. Ulthwe and Saim-hann have never done so. Even if their populations are similar its clear that Biel-tan's military might alone comprised close to over 70% of all the Craftworlds military might

>>51573046
Fracture of Biel-Tan, spoilers were posted week ago on /tg/.
Now, go away mr. normie.

Was sanguinius a psyker? I cant seem to find any information on the subject but i know he had premonitions of the future.

>>51573001
>GK guy that far in the back
>Cypher not even hising somewhere in the background
>Cawl without any personal guard at all
This image is weird.

>>51573070
Post pics or link.

>>51573070
I was there. All of them proven bullshit.

>>51573043
Actually anon my theory is that they're gonna turn Tau/Eldar/Necron into Imperium vassals, Orks and Nids become 'Destruction' and then we got an almost AoS-esque breakdwon

>>51573023
Except this time the god is not actually wanting to eat the eldar. And every other thing.

Funny note: Ynneads sacred number seems to be 7. Nurgle time to step the fuck off!

>>51573086
>Post pics or link.
Google it.

>>51573077
They're all Psykers.

>>51573077
I'm pretty sure was stated to be the second most powerful psyker after Magnus, not counting post awakening Logar.

>>51573096
You're the one claiming, Anon. You're full of shit.

>>51573085
Cawl was busy getting it on with his boxes, the Grey Knights are sneaking up on the first plastic Sisters in 10+ years.

>>51573052
But Gork and Mork have all Orks in the galaxy. And Ynnead has every dead Eldar. You'd think that would still at least put them over a Primarch, but the books seem to be saying that Roboute coming back does more to fight Chaos than either Gork, Mork or Ynnead can

>>51573091
>All of them proven bullshit.
Because you say it, Mat?
>>51573095
>Except this time the god is not actually wanting to eat the eldar. And every other thing.
He still needs souls that's why Ynnari helping them to consume craftworlds

>>51573077
He never developed it into active powers but he was very gifted, that's kind of his deal, he had everything except ambition.

>>51573103
I thought plastic sisters were delayed to next year? oh wait or was it they were suppose to be released this month?

>>51573094
Necron are mindless kilobits though

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>>51573085
>Cawl without any personal guard at all
Can't you see the crates behind him? that's a good 40 or so point unit right there!

>>51573100
>You're full of shit.
>says normalfag from Reddit

>>51573115
My favorite part was that even when he was given control over the Imperium Seccundus he seemed like he didnt enjoy. Like he knew he wasn't created to lead the imperium just to fight for it

>>51573055
Eldar fluff where they win? I'm afraid you might have chosen the wrong army.

I can only think of one, the Valedor novel. In general Eldar, even if they're the protagonists, will still lose in their own book. To be honest this is true of pretty much everyone but the Imperium, but their are more Eldar focused novels than any other Xenos (not many) so it probably is more noticeable with them. Sorry

Also Phoenix Lords are both a big disappointment and feel like a very large waste of the fluff.

>>51573110
Because I was there for the real spoilers from this month wd. One craftworld gets destroyed.

>>51573116
Celestine and the twins are plastic sisters, mate. Can you not see them there?

>>51573108
>But Gork and Mork have all Orks in the galaxy.
True.

>Ynnead has every dead Eldar.
Only the ones implanted into the infinity circuit.

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>>51573118
Not their leaders

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>>51573137
>shilling so hard

>>51573142
That's still a lot of Souls, you'd think that would make a literal God more powerful than a Primarch. Or at least able to do something, interfere in some way.

Goes double (more like triple really) for Gork and Mork. I mean I don't wanna be funny but between Celestine and the Legion of the Damned it looks like the Emperor is stronger in the Warp than Ynnead and Gork and Mork

>>51573110
>He still needs souls that's why Ynnari helping them to consume craftworlds
But that was the point all along. Evade Slaanehs omnoms and gather enough souls so they can birth a new god who is going to kick Slaanesh's weirdly shapely ass.

>>51573131
That's why I like him despite him being the ultimate sue.

Even fucking Horus wanted him to lead.

Hell if he had the heresy would likely have been quashed.

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>>51573139
I forgot about daemon princess celestine and her daemonic twins. Must of been all the girlyman hype that got to me. God i love his model to bad he will be vanilla marines only

>>51573132
Valedor? Okay, thanks. So then no other novels to really try out? I was recommended this Path of the Eldar series, how's it?

>>51573170
>how's it?
It's shit.

>>51573165
Yea but even being the ultimate sue. I think he redeemed himself a bit by actually dying and not plot armouring his way out of it.

>>51573169
The answer is obviously to give up play Ultramarines or Ultramarines successors. Maybe Guilliman senpai will notice you.

>>51573158
An avatar is not THE god.

The avatar of Ynead/Khaine are comparable to greater daemons.

God-juice crammed into a temporary mortal shell.

Primarch were of the world built to the world.

That said, they are overtuned, but TT vs Fluff is a battle everyone loses.

>>51573170
well...
>>51573185
Yeah, or I'd say so. I mean its writing is legible. And there's some exploration. But if your looking for a novel in which Eldar win I'd definitley not recommend it. Despite being the, so-to-speak, primary Eldar novel series its primary battle is effectively the story of how the entire Craftworld of Alaitoc, with the help of the Phoenix Lords, cannot survive an Imperium attack which only includes one Marine Chapter and their forced to pretty much beg the Imperium for mercy

So...I don't think you'll enjoy it. Like I said I do believe Valedor is the only novel I've ever read in which Eldar win.

>>51573196
But i like my Blood Angels

>>51573198
I get that but why aren't Ynnead or Gork and Mork capable of any feats like Celestine and Legion of the Damned and such?

Also why are their Avatars so much weaker than Primarchs?

>>51573195
Also hsi blood rage and need for strong willed advisors to help him make decisions.

Who but sanguinius would have suffered the council of the Flesh Tearer? Even the world eaters though him savage and blunt.

>>51573202
>its writing is legible
High praise

>>51573215
>Ynnead
You mean like granting their followers extra movement/assault/shooting phases? Healing when people die around them?

As for the Orks, GW don't know what to do with the orks so they push them form team to team procrastination, gluing on sparkly sticker bu making no real effort.

also

#ASK GW

>>51573185
There's actually a novel series worse for the eldar than path. Its about octarius and its like three separate stories which each follow the exact same formula;

marins fighting orks, eldar show up to help, marines kill all orks and eldar by end.

And that happens three times in a row. I think its got like two different Eldar seers fuck up their vision, Raven Guard who can't be detected by Eldar Rangers or Autarchs and a Eldar Psyker who pretty much dies to let a Librarirn fight a Weirdboy cause she's apaprently too weak too.

>>51573215

I dunno, giving people extra chunks of turns is pretty damn potent for an army-wide special rule.

>>51573242
Are the path of the eldar/dark eldar books that bad?

>>51573232
I meant more like creating armies of dead super soldiers and an immortal resurrecting woman who can fight Abaddon who interfere multiple times to help the Eldar win fights.

Like the Legion of the Damned, you know?

>#ASK GW
Noted. Sorry to bother you

>>51573255
I mean not if your a fan of the Imperium I suppose? I guess their better than Death Masque since they don't have a Space Marine Captin be a better Seer than Eldrad (to be fair at this stage in the fluff a rabid chimp is probably a better seer than Eldrad)

I don't quite know what to say. I prefer not to get too vitriolic but yeah.

>>51573259
>dead super soldiers
Wraith-everything.

And LoTD are not nailed down in origin/source, may well just be an exotic warp curse or latent psychic power.

>>51573248
They're kinda talking fluff I thnk. So if it doesn't translate into any wins that's kinda like getting fancy new guns but then all dying and losing anyway

Okay so, I wanna make a cult limo using GW parts because I play in a GW store pretty much exclusively. There are no other stores around here.

How do I accomplish this? Theoretically FW is fine too.

Orks by design are an incredibly one dimensional race and that is why they will never receive bonuses like the Tech capable Tau, the Awakening forces of Necrons, the God birthing Eldar, or the infinite possibilities of Chaos.

Orks are a barbarian faction that consists of copy and pasting one design, with no special abilities or powers that can be drawn on to create new and interesting models or units for future codexs.

Same goes for their battle prowess, psychic powers (or lack of), or vehicle requirements.

Orks by design will never be an interesting race because there is nothing you can do with the race as a whole to make them interesting.

>>51573278
FoC has pretty much confirmed their Warp entities though.

Also Wraiths aren't created by Ynnead and the only important battle Wraiths ever won was too defend Iyanden (and even then it was Yriel's fleet that saved the day). I mean where's the stuff like when the Legion of the Damned helped the Invaders destroy an entire Craftworld?

>>51573290
I disagree

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>>51573288
Get this, attach wheels somehow and cult symbols and paint it different?

>>51573273
Surely the Eldar win something other than Valedor?

>>51572945
Just says that an unspecified amount of eldar from most walks of life have joined with the new Faction.

That is not the same as 100% of Eldar from most walks of life have joined the new faction

>>51573314
Well there's a short story called Swordwind in which the Eldar certainly are badass (bordering on silly in my opinion) but in the book the battle is inconclusive, it ends before the fight has a winner so we don't know who will win.

And the earlier fight in the book was a classic 'two space marines outwit a Farseer and his Wraith bodyguard' type deal.

So you could try it but, again, I stress that though it makes the Eldar look powerful, they don't win a fight in it, at best the fight is inconclusive and, personally, as its the Mortifactor Chapter, I'd say its a foregone conclusion that the Eldar will lose.

But you can check it out if you want, its a short story so its rather cheap. In the same vain try Wraithflight. The Eldar do beat an Ork army in it. Sadly the protagonist still dies but asking for a Eldar Novel in which they win and the protagonist is treated like a Space Marine protagonist is sadly out of the question at current.

so I want to start an ordo xenos retinue for an inquisitor without caring about gameplay
really want a blanche approach so will try to do a lot of conversions

what does the retinue usually consist of?
right now I was thinking the inquisitor, a deathwatch marine or two, some mechanicus delegates and some normal mooks (maybe using the militarum tempestus models)

any other ideas? where could I find more informations about them?

Why when models and GW community team are getting better fluff is getting this worse?

>>51573336
Is there ever a novel in which the Eldar beat the Imperium?

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>>51573309

Seems kinda land raider sized and costs £110, but yes the Custodes vehicles have the right curves to be a civilian Grav-car.

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>>51573338
Look at the Inquisition codex and the acolyte squad.

Everything can be Ordo Xenos, from crusader, demonhost, DCA, psykers, monkey, etc.

There are minor Xenos that do have access to warp shit. So a mix of faith, Xeno tech, warp power and even your own demon can help.

In other words anything can be Ordo Xenos warband

>>51573342
Well I don't think its all terrible, though certainly some of it has been objectionable. Personally I would just like to see more attention and success spread around. I am glad for Chaos to finally have one unambiguous great victory, but I'd prefer if more time could be taken to give all factions similar treatment, give every faction major military success to be proud of and top tier characters.

>>51573360
No, not as far as I know.

>>51572990

>I'm starting to think Gork n Mork are the only supernatural entities in the setting NOT to exist!

Gork and Mork exist because the Orks believe they exist.

>>51573365

Wait for the mini one-man Custodes Grav thing to come out, use it's curvy sides to kitbash another kit?

>>51573303
>pretty much
>all but

=Not

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>>51573411

The Pallas is out.

Hmm... Does look kit-bashable into a civilian Grav car, but it'd need the central body bulked out a little somehow.

Do the different Knights available come with all Knight weapons or only the options for their specified Knight version?

>>51573408
Yeah, well, and Orks think they're the best too but in the lore and in the game we both know that's not true.

Orks are always get spanked in every major fight they're in.

>>51572990
GW probably forgot about the entire concept.

I die a little inside when I see people bandying about the term truescale as if the game isn't scaled to marines, most factions are already correct relative to marines and it's just that the plastic cadians are completely oversized.

Is there a link to download fabius bile prodigal?

>>51573332
>That is not the same as 100% of Eldar from most walks of life have joined the new faction
Yeah but now Ynnari are only existing faction of Eldars.

>>51573486
Orks win every fight they're in.
They have fun, the weak are killed, the strong get stronger and the enemy suffer far more permanent losses (Except for Tyranids)

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>>51573557
agreed, but there's nothing anyone can really do to stop it at this point

It's cute seeing them try to convert up landraider-size rhinos and baneblade-size landraiders, though.

Why aren't Necrons seen as more of a galactic threat? Their tech is vastly beyond even the Tau Empire's, they're ridiculously numerous, and even when they do fall, the Canoptek stuff can repair them. People talk about how Orks and Nids are impossible to defeat without Exterminatus, but the logic follows that Necrons are exactly the same way. Unless you destroy the Tomb World, they're just going to keep churning out more Crons.

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>>51573614
Not this shit again, we've been through this.

>>51573612
They so far spend most of their time napping, pursuing hobbies or reclaiming dead worlds.

>>51573612
Because they're still fucking sleeping.

>>51573619
It's what happens when people say truescale.

>>51573612

Sautekh are a pretty major problem, but the rest of the dynasties are small and squabbling for the most part, or at least more about their own issues than trying to conquer the Galaxy.

Also the Silent King seems to be one of the galaxies small handful of genuinely decent dudes.

>>51573612

Motivation. Necrons know they're millenia at least ahead of everyone else, so they genuinely just don't see humanity, eldar etc as threats. If they could be bothered, they could just send thousands of Deathmarks to simultaniously assassinate any major military leader in the galaxy. But they just don't care about what non-Necrons do until they oppose them.

They're weirdly chill about the whole thing. Hell, Trazyn has millions under his command yet he just spends his time collecting esoteric stuff like an eon-old otaku.

Ech, small league game where points aren't a thing and what units you have are randomly generated.

If I roll "20 Neophyte cultists" from the table, am I better off going shotguns and flamers and using them as a chargey horde, or 16 autoguns, 2 grenade launchers and 2 seismic whatevers?

>>51573612
They're conquered everything and retired

>>51573001

I just can't wait to read how Roboute interacts with Calgar and the rest of the Ultramarines, and the Imperium and when he sees Celestine... ahhhh

>>51573612
They are among the great 3.threats that the narrative is focusing on.

The threat level gors like this according to the latest fluff in order of threat level.

-Chaos
Necrons
-Tyranids

>>51573641
Go with the codex. Seriously, you all are morons.

The Necrons are swiftly uniting and organizing as a race. By 999 41K, the Necrons are posed for the Great Awakening. The Sautekh might be the biggest but the other dynasties are also launching ever increasing raids and campaigns across the galaxy that have grabbed considerable amount of space land. These guys are but a fraction of the Necrons. The majority is still sleeping.

>>51573799
>when he sees Celestine.
*tips his laurel wreath "Mladyyyy"

>>51573799

I'll admit, I'm very curious about the Roboute/Celestine interaction. Especially considering she brought the pieces together (Getting the Death Avatar/Mechanicus together) to get him fixed in the first place.

>>51573799
Yeah, it's going to be smurf central and I love it.

>>51572990
The Ork codex confirms that they exist. Currently they are fighting against the daemons in the Warp and planning to thwart the Chaos Gods using Ghaz..

>>51573851
There won't be much of an interaction. She will shove the Emperor's sword in his hands and give him a stoney silent stare for a long awkward while.

>>51573873
Lies

>>51573288
Just get the taurox and plasticard a back for it. Although I dunno what the point of a limo even is for GC, it'd have to proxy as a goliath rockcrusher and they are closed and only allow 5 genestealers. Patriarch might not even fit.

>>51573938

I'd be running if as a truck for the magus and friends instead.

>>51573895
It's not The Sword of the Emperor it is A sword of the Emperor

Errm, hallo. I wanted to ask do you remember that story with the Palace of Slaanesh and the corrupted knight in the end?
I remember many were guessing that he was a grey knight or even Draigo hismself, but I think it was eventually disproven.
Can you tell me who that spess marine was and/or give me a link to that?

What do space marines do when they retire?

>>51574017
Never explicitly proven or disproven.

>>51573895

Man, Celestine wielding the Emperor's sword would be so much cooler than Gulliman wielding the emperor's sword.

I wish I could care about Gulliman, but his character is violently torn between "Statesman who cared more about the empire as an institution than the emperor, who was a functional but unenthusiastic general more at home in senates" and "PRIMARCHS ARE SUPER GIANTS WHO IT HURTS TO LOOK AT BECAUSE THEIR PERSONALITY IS A TANGIBLE OPRESSIVE FORCE AND THEY CAN HOLD UP A TITANS FOOT"

Fuck the heresy novels and fuck models and statblocks tainted by their influence.

>>51574040
No? I thought there were even a name and chapter of that spess marine given later. That or I remember wrongly.

>>51574039
Rot.

It's a lifetime job.

Some are assigned to drill recruits but they are always prepared to fight.

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>>51574039
They train space marine recruits/captain space marine ships/perform administrative roles that don't require direct combat but benefit from their immense intelligence and experience.

Read Space Marine.

just to clarify you CAN take a armor save against a gets hot roll, and then a FNP roll if that fails right?

for some reason i thought you werent allowed to take an armor save against it but it looks like its just no look out sir and cover saves.

>>51574086
right

>>51574066
...go on

>>51574086
Yes you can, its retarded, but yes you can.

Its why its stupid that GW thought it would be a downside to the Riptides nova charger when in reality it isn't going through a 2+ 5++ anytime soon.

>>51574066

You know, Chaplains are meant to be morale officers and brilliant orators. He had a perfect opening here to make an inspirational point, then turn things about to make the other cadets laugh at the smartass instead of him to drive the point home and make them remember it for a long time.

But nope, pain glove.

>>51574111

Nova charge ignores armour, it's got to go through a FNP only.

>>51573085
>"Brother Grey Knights, the demon does not make war here!"
"Grand Master, the Black Legion..."
>"Not our problem. Deuces, Ultras."
"... and they brought a Maulerfiend."
>"Fuck it up, brothers!"

>>51574111
Are you confusing it with Gets Hot that its main weapons suffer if they overcharge/novacharge?

>>51574114
Not him, but why do space marines need morale officers in the first place? They are fucking space marines.

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>>51572203
You made the Night Lords my least favorite faction in the game with this post
I hope you die of cancer

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>>51574106
Was never a full comic, I believe there was only three pages done but I can never find the first one. Lexandro D'arquebus is the protagonist of the novel Space Marine.

>>51574114
Well, he is an imperial fist. Pain glove is how they motivate people.

>>51574163
Chaplains are also the guys who spot the initial signs of damnation and work to reform, or if need be expunge them. They're discipline officers and therapists, like commissars but with reference to the chapter's cult and ideals rather than the authority of the administratum.

>>51574163

Because they're Superhumans, not beep boop automatons.

They can beat indoctrination into their heads, fuck with their hormone levels and give them painfully rigid schedules with only a few minutes downtime just before lights out... But they can't outright lobotomise them of all human thought without just ending up with a fancy expensive Servitor.

Isn't Szarekh one of the few "sane" characters in the 40k universe? All he ever did was for his people. He even decided to protect the galaxy by stopping war. His only wish is for his people to have actually flesh bodies again and to rest in piece.
Sure, he sealed the deal but he was tricked into it

>>51574163
I dont know about other chapters but Blood Angels pretty much depend on there Chaplains to spot signs of the Black Rage. If not for them i think the entire chapter would of collapsed by now

>>51574190

>Squat snipers use multi-meltas

Why was this faction removed again?

>>51572563
Next time you bait put something on the hook

>>51574223
They never had cyborg-ambull cavalry on the tabletop, so no one bought the models.

whats your verdict on ratlings

>>51574223
>Squat sniper has a multi-melta, demented grin and empty beer can and ambushes space marines from close range with no kind of cover or concealment
This is ISIS tier

Picked up the Eradication Cohort yesterday, mostly play 850 point quickies at my store.

Is the formation itself worth running at that point level (since you can quite comfitably get to exactly 850 with upgrades) or should I sell off the Electro-Priests like I originally intended and use the other units in different configurations with the Start Collecting Skitarii box and the unit of Vanguards I already have?

a Tau Pirahna with a single fusion blaster (not even twin-linked) costs 50 points.

a Crisis suit (not bodyguard) can have two fusion blasters, costing 52 points (47 if a single twinlinked fusion blaster)

wouldnt it be easier to have multiple crisis suits dropping in all over the map with these fusion blasters instead of having pirahnas which are extremely vulnerable to say the least?

>>51574290

And you can slide your suicide Monats into troops slots too.

Oh, and have them try to JSJ into concealment once in a while, giving them two turns of Melta shooting.

Just got gifted a Land Raider Crusader/Redeemer for my birthday, which variant is better for a Dark Angels army? Or should I just try magnetizing it if it's actually possibile

Are all the Eldar Gods still alive in Slaanesh's belly?

>>51574017
The story is 50% of the Slaanesh description in the codex. "The Palace of Slaanesh". Page 16.
You can't miss it.

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>>51572990
>actually getting upset over orks
Holy shit calm down you dumb autist

>>51574365
At least three are not.

>>51574394
I know about the story and I've actually reread just recently, what I'm asking is who the knight was.
That story is some 3 or 4 years old now and I've heard some rumors that included a full identity, which I, sadly, don't remember.
But if nothing officially came in on that part, then I've been fed bullshit and it's still suspended in the air.

>>51574361
Excelsior.

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>>51574041
>"Statesman who cared more about the empire as an institution than the emperor, who was a functional but unenthusiastic general more at home in senates" and "PRIMARCHS ARE SUPER GIANTS WHO IT HURTS TO LOOK AT BECAUSE THEIR PERSONALITY IS A TANGIBLE OPRESSIVE FORCE AND THEY CAN HOLD UP A TITANS FOOT"
That's only really because of BL shitty writing.
It looks like GW is taking an interesting path based upon the WD articles, showing guilliman as a "man" wrought with guilt, feeling that he failed the imperium.

Which could be really interesting, esspecially if they play up the fact that the heresy is basically a repeat of the death of Konor
>guilliman is off somewhere by the orders of his dad, and while he's away his father is betrayed by his closest and most trusted compatriot, and guilliman is too far away to do anything about it, only able to arrive to see his father die and the only thing he can do is try to wipe out the traitors and fulfill his fathers vision.
Which in part might explain why he was a dick to dorn when he arrived on the vengeful spirit.
If they run with that, and the statesman stuff, while occasionally having moments that remind the reader that this is a guy who is far beyond human, a living demi-god, and despite how human he may seem at times he is still at his very core something else, it could actually be pretty good. As long as they put the few good writers they have on it, and tell every one else (goldberg, A ”the D stands for daddy issues" DB, and most of the dong hunters) to stay 1000 miles away

>>51574412
*4
That one bitch is still """hanging out""" with nurgle

>>51572156

This really brings a tear of nostalgia to my eye. Remember being this happy guy with not a worry in the world, playing away all my summers, staying up late painting!

Now though, infected with the bitterness of the overall Internet, my time consumed by work and family, only having a few scarce hours each night when I'm to tired to do anything. And when finally weekend comes along, I'm to exhausted to bring myself doing anything useful.

This year Ill turn it around though... I promise to play more games, and paint more miniatures!

>>51574463
Nurgle propaganda!
The fair maiden rests in peace!

>>51574473
I went through againt with this when Skitarii came. I bought and build every single unit. Also bought a knight because fuck yeah admech. Then they released Cult mechanicus and I went bonkers, more admech! Once again bought all units and painted them.

Then they released a formation where I can combine all three and I was so happy! Finally! A real admech army!

...The formation was War Convocation.

Now everybody hates me.

>>51574041
The fact that it's Guilliman stuck wielding the Emperor's sword and being the big punchy hero man is interesting because he has that duality.

Dude explicitly did not want to do that. That's why he removed himself from power and gave it to the regular humans. And split up the armies of the Imperium into autonomous organizations, separate from the legions. And now it's forced into his hands because everyone wants him to be the reborn chosen one. If they capitalize on that, it'll be fuckin' sweet.

>>51574463
LIES, Nurgle hols her prisoner and torments endlessly with poisons.

>>51572771
Not only do you defeat your own point, bit also confirm that you have never seen them in real life.
Their boobs are smaller than space marine or even ig hands and most models hide them with their arms in front of them

>>51574438
Those rumours were wrong. It doesn't match GWs style. Not then and not now.
I'm not opposed to the theory it might be Draigo. But the latest GK codex is way younger than the CD codex and it said nothing.
But if/when GW choses to reveal the identity of the knight, it won't be just another copy of the story with name or chapter. It would be a whole story arc.

>>51574453
I guess you can say he's now Robute Guiltiman

[insert Carlos face]

>>51573169
>to bad he will be vanilla marines only

Hardly.
He'll be like the triumvirate and take able be any Imperial faction.

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>>51574163
>why do space marines need morale officers in the first place?

Which Space Marine chapter has the most chill and fun players and is the most fun to fight in a fluff game?

>>51574774
blood angels, imperial fists, ultramarines

the last one might change with the release of bobby G but we'll see

Been away from 40k since they realise Magnus and returned now.
WTF They destroyed Cadia, sestroyed Biel-Tan, made new slaanesh and resurected Guilliman in only 3 books. Everything is so fucking rushed.

Do Imperial Knights always wear their house regalia or are there canon instances of a Knight wearing a Space Marine chapter's iconography and following their doctrines? Hell, are there any Knights that are considered "honorary members" of a chapter, since Space Marines can also be announced as a chapter's honor member? (For example Ekene from the Celestial Lions being both their new Chapter Master but also a member of Helbrecht's own Sword Brethren)

>>51574826
truly the end of times

>>51574829
>are there canon instances of a Knight wearing a Space Marine chapter's iconography and following their doctrines?
house hawkshroud

>>51574787
>ultramarines
>most chill and fun players
piclk one

>>51574826
They're probably going to do a mild AoS. Rumors say that Dark Eldar + Eldar and severial Imperial Forces (Imperial Agents + IG) will merge

>>51574826
>Everything is so fucking rushed.

You're the worst.
You don't need 1001 books to tell this story.

>>51574854
I'm sorry my personal experiences differ from internet memes.

I'd say raven guard as well, but I've never seen a raven guard player ever.

>want to get a SC box of IG
>realize its roughly 250 points
>compare with other boxes
>differences of 400 points on average
what the fuck GW

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>all these new models

Awesome. Custodes get a Heavy Dreadnought. Fucking every other Legion is MANLETS.

>>51574908
>Horde shit army
>Wtf, I need to buy lots?!

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>>51574925
Everybody seen these already I guess or you want me to dump? Sister of Silence shit is great.

>>51574908
They really should tone down the comparative cost of a horde army's basic troop boxes. If someone wants to play a horde of Orks, IG or Tyranids they need a metric fuckton lf infantry and will have to pay a small fortune for a rather casual list.

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>>51573844

>not implying that when she is summoned she goes full https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6HAHogcHFI

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>>51574925

Yeah, we seen it.

I hope they add a blade before final release, just for asthetic.

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>>51574958
Does this happen when she's with her Geminae? :3

>>51574970
is that a gatling lascannon?