Pathfinder General /pfg/

What is the best domain/mystery for a support cleric/oracle?

Party already has two good martials and two good spellcasters, so I don't need to worry about damage or tanking.

>>51506812
>Spheres of Might previews:
first for still narrow, fiddly garbage!

>Be Ehn Jolly
>copy-paste text of Diehard, Spring Attack, and other garbage feats
>masturbate furiously

>>51506884
>>51506960
>bawww its not pow 2 bawww

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Because this thread is off to such a terrific start. Here's the thing that got made last thread

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Here is the updated version of Bloodforge: Infusions: Esoteric Energies:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/gq9dsp

The only update is: "The ethumion race now has the same bonus feat favored class bonus option."

Of particular note in this document is the new Mixed Blood trait, which replaces the Mixed Blood feat from the original Bloodforge 1. It is now considerably easier to count as just about any type or subtype you desire, while gaining bonuses out of it. This means that you can pick up feats like Altered Life, Unnatural Vitality, Vestigial Wings, and/or Aerial Wings far more easily now.

If you enjoy this product, consider purchasing it on the Dreamscarred Press website when it becomes available there.

>>51506978
But being narrow, fiddly garbage without noncombat options is why people complain about PoW. SoM is shaping up to be PoW 2 exactly.

>>51506983
Huh, this is neat. They finally made the heritage feats work for most races instead of just planetouched?

>>51506995
It really isn't though. Talents are persistently being modified and added to allow more flexibility and out-of-combat utility.

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>>51506979

Onryou is going to be a goldmine for Dorian art, isn't she.

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>>51506979
Symmetrical boob to boob combat needs to be a thing.

>>51507029
It is. There's an anime specifically about it.

>>51507029
>he doesn't know about Keijo!!!!!!!!

>>51507056
>>51507055

No I mean I want mechanics

>>51506995
Oh sorry, I did not know you wanted more gems added to the game like this
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/rogue/rogue-talents/paizo---rogue-advanced-talents/rumormonger-ex

>>51507076
More stuff like that would be brilliant, yes.

>>51507063

Why? All you need is Unarmed Combat.

>>51507076
I fucking hate that kind of shit

>>51507122
It needs its own special subsystem.

>>51507138

No it doesn't!

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>>51507095
>>51507129

>>51507150
Yes it does. It might be based on unarmed combat, but you could also crib things from the dueling rules from ultimate combat

>>51507063
Ok what do we need to take into account
breast shape
breast solidity
breast skin slippiness
chest muscles
inertia

>>51507178

People aren't going to be slapping people with their boobs unless it's on accident or rough sex!

im going to die

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>>51507232

So, unchained barbarian can rage and gain barbarian levels, if he becomes lawful?

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>>51507232

>>51507232
no

>>51507178

"Choose your weapon"

"Boobs! "

"I accept"

>>51507265

That sounds incredibly painful for her though.

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>>51507276
Incredibly painful, or EXTREMELY painful?

>>51507288

For you? Either.

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I like where this thread is going

>Bow
1d8 damage, free action reload
>Crossbow
2d6 damage, move action reload
>Gun
2d8 damage, full-round action reload

All other stats are identical. Thoughts?

>>51507353
Bows are still god.

Ok real talk
What does out of combat talents even mean
Do you just want bonus skill points?

>>51507353
A slight improvement?

>>51507370
People want spells without it counting as spells. They want to be able to bluff so hard they can teleport to be in two places at once.

>>51507371
>>51507364

>Bow
1d8 damage, free action reload
>Crossbow
2d8 damage, move action reload
>Gun
3d8 damage, full-round action reload

Is that better?

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>>51507353
>>51507420
Where are the waterballoon stats?

>>51507370
Look at vigilante social talents, see how you can just fucking HAVE a hideout immune to scrying bullshit just show up in a place, solely because you said "yea i want to move it to this town"? Shit like that. Vigilante got it (almost) right.

>>51507375
No they don't you stupid asshole. Stop ruining Pathfinder.

>>51506995
Just wait until Spheres of Skill.

>>51507485

This General needs an SoS

>>51507375
That's what PoW and Skill unlocks are, you know.

>>51507440
Safe House and Ventriloquist are the only examples that fit your idea
Rest of them are just fiddling with fame

>>51507370
Skill tricks, some Ex wuxia shit, and maybe a bit of punchan utility.

>>51507470
I could legitimately argue that an extreme bluff could in certain circumstances function as a teleport, fluffed as "You think I was standing here this whole time, but IT WAS A TRICK! BAMBOOZLED AGAIN!"

>>51507518
That shit is too Gonzo

Ok so the teisatsu vigilante looks pretty damn good from where I'm standing. Is there some sort of hidden trap in there somewhere or is this a solid choice?
Main spotlights include monk ki powers which translate to access to abundant step and quiggong spells and a caster level for crafting shit.

>>51507509
Elaborate
Gimme specific examples

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>>51507350

That's too chubby, you weirdo.

>>51507353
Bows outpace all of them at BAB6 at the LATEST:
Usually earlier though (rapid shot, haste, manyshot, or all three), and never looks back.

You have no understanding of how anything works.

>>51507524
>caster level

lolwut, pretty sure you don't get that from noncasting vigilantes.

>is there a trap in there somewhere or...
The only trap is that it delays your ability to pick up Lethal Grace until 4th at earliest, and if you wanted any Rogue Talents you're shit out of luck. Thankfully, if you're considering a Teisatsu, you're probably doing 1pp-only, which means that doesn't matter to you and it is basically a STRAIGHT UPGRADE from Stalker. Wakizashi is dank as fuck, and if you're worried about weebshit just ask to refluff.

>>51507541
Running on water, going so fast you create mirror images, illusions or at least can grant yourself concealment, running on walls, the ability to run on razor thin edges (hell, even swords). A few sword beams or long range punches from ripples in the air, even if there are conditions to their use.

As for skill tricks, you know, like the 3.5 skill tricks.

As for the you know, doing combat slightly better, it has that down, but it's still lacking in general out of combat utility.

>>51507552
Longswords outpace axes. no one cares.

>>51507485
>>51507370
>Spheres of Skill

Fuck, this WAS what we actually needed instead of just SoM, wasn't it. We needed a Skill Unlocks system dialed up to 110.

>Your ability to appraise is so good that you become capable of identifying literally anything
>Ability to use Disguises so well you might as well be shapeshifting
>The Heal Skill, but it actually fucking does what it says without wasting everyone's time
>Can Stealth so well that you straight up vanish mid-fight
>Dance so hard you create whirlwinds and play a song so depressing you cause it to rain
>Swim so hard you part the sea behind you, allowing your allies to follow

>>51507628
>a 1d8 1h weapon outdamages a 1d12 2h
riiigh

>>51507656
>crit range outpaces raw damage
>both can add 1.5x Str

who'dda thunk it

>>51507610
I doubt anyone is going for feats of that style
Even 3.5 tricks were somewhat mundane with few exceptions

>>51507584
Doesnt it let you snag monk ki powers which in turn lets you snag quiggong which in turn grants you a caster level?

Also, I've been wondering if lethal grace works with the agile upgrade as it specifically mentions needing dex to attack and str to damage.

>>51507649
It is feasible that they could add a few cool abilities to each sphere, like give lancers good jumping, scoundrels some stealth and give Athletics and equipment some shit that isn't 90% combat. Even if they're forced to add 'advanced talents' to enable our Chinese Cartoon fantasies that don't involve foxes.

>>51507673
I meant spheres of might stuff.

And yeah, it doesn't change the fact that 3.5 skill tricks were really fucking good and pathfinder doesn't have them.

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>>51507542
I respectfully disagree

>>51507703
Since it is 3.5 stuff, you can use it still

>>51506105
At the very least, one or two of th PbP games have started for it!

>>51507552

A) No one gets to level 6 anyway
B) Commoners with 3d8 firearms is pretty scary
C) My other houserules would allow anyone with high bab to make 15d8 vital strikes with said guns

I need to homebrew an avowed patron thats bound to the character, but can potentially overpower and dominate them. They are based around shadows, psychological manipulation, and domination, and have plane shifting abilities. These beings would work like a summoned creature, almost.

I have no idea how to do this. Its mainly for NPC use but I want to make sure its ready if the players do something crazy.

>>51507725
>Opinions/Personal Anecdote
>Alright fair enough
>These other rules I didn't state previously make my other shitty rules less shitty

>>51507678
>Quiggong
>granting you an actual caster level
I'm doubtful, but that's mostly because monks getting anything nice, however small, does not sound like something paizo would do.

>Agile enchant
Lethal Grace shuts off if you use Agile, because you MUST be using Str for damage. This is perfectly fine, because half your level to damage lets you make up the difference after a bit, especially if you're using TWF. It's not like you're dumping Str like some kind of faggot, right anon?

>>51507736

Its only +3d8 more than normal Vital Strike

>>51507703
well spheres developers are not entitled to serve your tastes

>>51507666
Actually 19-20/x2 vs x3 is effectively the same.
There's a slight advantage with increased crit range (17-20/x2 vs 19-20/x3) but small enough that the +2 base on the die more or less equals it out.

>>51507786
Nigger, someone asked 'what I want from combat talents' I said what I wanted, then someone said NO ONE WOULD MAKE FEATS LIEK TYHAT!1!1!2 so I explained I was refering to SoM stop being a passive aggressive cunt

>>51507820
>I don't like what I'm seeing from the SoM previews
>What would you change?
>Specific examples
>BITCH NOBODY ASKED YOU!

>>51507656
Handaxe you dipshit

>>51507541
I wouldn't mind some talents that allows utility tied into skill abilities or otherwise grouped things together to allow a diverse range of effects.

>Giant smash - you can wreck class levels 5 feet blocks with a swing of your weapon, this can affect hardness 2x your character level. Any creature in this path takes an attack at your highest BAB and falls prone if you beat its CMD. Takes a stamina point.

>Balance point - Any activity that requires a sense of balance has its DC dropped by -10+CL. You do not lose dex to AC for any movement type.

>Versatile Equipment - gain any equipment trick in the book

>Impressive Flex - With the use of another talent, use the damage dealt by an attack in place of your diplomacy/intimidate skill result

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>>51507929
>mfw I tried to comprehend giant smash

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>playing a campaign where we're two priests and a mage slayer trying to stop an ancient sorcerer from reenacting a ritual that destroyed the world humanity originally came from 1200 years ago (they're all refugees on the elven world)
>nobody believes us, but we've seen the signs
>actual prophecies being fulfilled, think biblical book of revelation
>scripture tells of seven catastrophes that will devastate the world before all is consumed by darkness
>we're making steady progress, but at the end of almost every session the DM reveals another news bomb
>we're now certain at least 4 of the 7 signs have already occured, but we can't be sure there have been more elsewhere on the planet
>volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, this kind of stuff
>last session heavy snow started falling
>in june
>DM 3 sessions ago, when another player talked about wanting to DM an idea he had "I don't think we'll need more than 3 sessions"
>DM 2 sessions ago "I don't think we'll need more than 2 sessions"
>next session is this weekend

>>51506865
oradin is objective best heals in the game, unless you have psionics in which case vitadin has it beat.

you can look into more than that yourself i'm sure

>>51507993
oh and life, life oracle

>>51507958
Lemme rephrase
>Giant smash - spend one stamina point to destroy 1 five foot cube of material per class level in a line. The toughness of the material broken this way must be less than 2 times your character level. You can carry out an attack action at your highest BAB on all creatures that are standing on terrain you destroy in this manner.

>>51507518
You mean like actually functional feinting?

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>>51508083
>spread out the volume of the attack to small as fuck thickness
>anyone in the planet

>>51508083
"Destroy" how? Giving the broken condition? Creating difficult terrain? Disintegrating the material?

>>51507706

You're a heckin' weirdo!

>>51507706
> lust and gluttony got consolidated

>>51508114
No, it needs to be 5ft cubes. Sorcerers with shape spell can't spread their attacks over infinite distance either.

>>51508124
Disintegrating the material, or sundering whatever it is if it's an unattended item. You could probably have it treated as difficult terrain, that's a nice one. I was thinking more like cutting through stuff, but difficult terrain works nicely too.

>>51508139
Where is this rule?

>>51508197
In the fucking description of the ability, moron.

>>51508213
Five foot cube is just measure of volume
Nothing says it has to be that shape

>>51508238
Oh, one of those.

Yeah, whatever you want rules-lawyer. It's because of you 3.5 and PF and 5e are absolute shit.

>>51508238
You do not create the volume of x cubes, you create x cubes, period.

>>51508260
>>51508262
well that makes spells like stone shape utter shit then
the cubes are gonna be wasted on massive amounts of empty air

>>51508293
Stone shape calls out a specific volume of stone, while the ability you're talking about calls out a specific number of 5 foot cubes, you mong. If there's one thing worse than a rules-lawyer, it's a rules-lawyer who can't read.

>>51508293
Stone shape uses a different wording.

>>51508337
If you still don't get it:
5 cubic feet =/= a 5-foot cube

One is just a volume, the other is a volume and a shape (and yes, it's larger that the other in this example)

>>51508329
It's not that they can't read it's that they're selectively ignoring the words that don't fit the narrative they're trying to push. They know exactly what they're doing, they're just hoping you won't notice their tricks.

How do I kurwa?

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>>51508129
It may be weird, but damn does it work for me.

>>51508618
Dobson please stop

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>>51508618
I said no fat ships!

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>>51508618
At least post quality.

>>51508618
>>51507706
gross

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Deer/Goat/Sheep Race is in its first draft!
Who wants it?

>>51508616
Be someone from Brevoy trained in the Dueling Sword. Then get a mount, some goofy armor wings, and kurwa all day

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So /pfg/, correct me on this because I feel like someone would have spotted this by now if it worked. Overwatch Style/Tactician/Vortex with Kinetic Blasts: does it work?

>>51508770
I take offense with one of those statements.

>>51508753
>>51508618
>>51507706
>>51507350

Would that obesity feat from 3.5 be alright in today's pathfinder?

>>51508809
It would give bonuses to Fort Saves and Cha checks because fatshaming is wrong you shitlord #FrasierAndWu

>>51508852
Well it already positively affects fort saves due too +2 con.

Cha checks dont make sense due to force of personality.

>>51508618
>>51508750
>>51508753
We would all be better off if /pfg/ was deleted and banned.

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>>51508132
>>51507706
I for one welcome our new slanneshi overlords

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>>51508972

Maybe the release of a brand spanking new AP will get our butts in gear to talk more, fap less.

How do you make a "good" spell list for a spontaneous caster? What do you make sure you are able to do? What "types" of spells do you make sure you have access too?

>>51509006
Except strange eons is in the release and hell's vengeance came out and no one cared. It's time to pull the plug. There is no reason to force us to suffer any more.

>>51509031
Just wait till pathfinder 2 comes ou

>>51509031

I'd say it went further back than that, we hardly cared about Hell's Rebels too.

In fact, the last AP I recall we discussed at length as it was being released was Wrath of the Righteous, which by all accounts heralded the end of us giving a shit about Paizo writing quality.

But hey, Amber Scott wrote Wrath of the Righteous, and Amber Scott's writing Ironfang Invasion.

Maybe we will... Oh no... Oh my god, no...

>>51509079
>Maybe we will... Oh no... Oh my god, no...

The AP after Ironfang Invasion is "Ruins of Azlant," which involves the PCs investigating the remains of that shattered continent.

>>51509101
Now THAT sounds awesome

>>51509072
Who is hyped for starfinder?

If I wanted to know more, where could I learn more about starfinder?

Should 9th level casters be killed in childhood? People who say no are probably 9th level casters.

>>51509115
>>51509101

>Thousands of years ago, a barrage of meteors called forth from the vastness of space by humanity’s greatest enemies rained down on Golarion, cutting short the remarkable human empire of Azlant while plunging the world into an era of darkness. Since then, the shattered continent of Azlant has lured intrepid explorers to its broken shores, but few have the mettle to survive in the remains of this dangerous and mysterious land. Now, a hopeful expedition has established a colony on one of the nearest islands across the sea, but danger has struck the fledgling settlement. An ancient enemy was accidently released from its prison and has resumed its millennium-old machinations to punish the hubris of humanity once again. Can the adventurers survive in a faraway land and track down this enigmatic being before its sinister plans can come to fruition?

>The Ruins of Azlant Adventure Path begins with the adventurers standing on the deck of a ship ready to make landfall at their new home. However, dread settles in as they notice that the colony is empty and abandoned. Tasked with finding out what happened to the previous colonists, the adventurers go ashore and explore the deserted settlement. Uncovering strange evidence leads the adventurers across the island where they encounter two survivors that can give them clues as to what happened the rest of the first wave of colonists. Can the adventurers survive long enough to discover what truly happened?

>>51509013
Theme is important, but so is utility vs combat capability. Witch list is about as specialized as you can safely get without gimping a full caster.

>>51509130
That's a damn problem, right now, trying to learn more about pathfinder.

They're not exactly forthcoming. They remember what people did with the swashbuckler, and with the kineticist, and how they had to deal with all that rage, all those numbers, all that mechanical proof, and for what? They were only releasing it for hype, it was going in as-is from the begining!

Nay, paizo has learned their lesson now unfortunately. It's all behind closed doors, and they assure us it will be really good because we're not there to point out the places where it's really bad.

... At least, not until we get our hands on it.

>>51509031

Strange Aeons is an AP nobody wanted using a theme nobody actually cares about, and Hell's Vengeance was horribly marketed and deeply underwhelming.

Honestly, I think Paizo is losing their touch.

God dammit /pfg/ I can't enjoy a game with you if you're going to do 2hu-level optimization and use shit from 21999 different pdfs to make your character do everything ever.

>>51509136

> yfw mengkare is outed as a Veiled Speaker in this one

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>>51509166

But I've never done that before, buddy. In fact, I'm probably the same as you in that I simply take a theme for the character and make it as effective as possible without becoming more optimization than flavor.

>>51509159
Or maybe they are the same and you are just getting old and jaded.

Yes, strange eons is kinda strange flavor, but three of the women I know will jump on any cuthulu related cock they can so I'm not complaining that I get to run a game for them and include mind control in it.

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>>51509166
>Want to make character for kicks, and so I can pull it out next time I need one
>No longer even know what limits I even want to have on chargen, let alone which ones people use
>People scream no matter what kind of thing you say you want

Why do I even look at this shit anymore

>>51507730
Bumpti

Does shaken from the same source (critical hit from weapon of awe for example) stack?

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>>51509130

I'm rather excited. Which, as >>51509156 points out, may be setting myself up for disappointment, but I'll survive.

The blog page will probably have info on what the devs have revealed thus far.

>>51509285
Depends on the wording, but usually not - usually, the time shaken is extended instead of the intensity increasing.

>>51507978
>ancient sorcerer
>enacting ritual to destroy elf world
>you're trying to stop him
so it's an evil campaign?

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>>51509159
>Nobody wanted
You didn't wanted
>A theme nobody actually cares about
I guess you never played Call of Cthulhu in your miserable pleb life nor even read any of Lovecraft's fiction.

For the record and to remind you all fucking millenials, when the OGL came to be what made it a success was a little module done by then small company named Green Ronin Publishing.
Said module took place in a city state controlled by pirates and depicted the snakemen from Howard's Kull tales as enemies as well as references the King in Yellow and the Yithians. It won the Ennie in the year 2001.
That the useless mouth breathing fatfucks/twinks of Paizo had pulled the Cthulhu card is a hint the company is diving into the bottomless Pit and they are praying their asses out that Starfinder is the next Shadowrun or they will be back to be Wizard of the Coast cum guzzler whores.

>>51509365

Anon, if the sorcerer destroys the elf world, how will humans take it over?

>>51507724
>PbP
Speaking of those, does anyone know how they're going so far?

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>>51509485

I heard they're having a party!

>>51506979
No spider?

Shame.

Still, excellent stuff!

>>51509365
What, you're just going to let some jerk kill the best love slave race?

>>51506812
There's no such fucking thing as social martial you twatbag.

Martial means FIGHTING.

>>51509500
I don't think he got references>>51509500

>>51509500

Spooder does not have boobs, she can't possibly join in!

>>51509485
Still hanging around the Sandpoint festival. Bit of dancing and stuff.

>>51509494
Oh, that sounds fun! I would have (re)applied myself, Pbp just doesn't work for me.

>>51509532
I recall the guy posting a text reference.

>>51509546
She's meant to be the judge!

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>>51509546
Mandatory doze of rage.

>>51509531
Pretty much, Martials can have none martial skills but at the end of the day a martial better be good at fighting.

Not like there is any money in tabletop rpgs anyway

>>51509167
>yfw expecting anything to actually change in Golarion lore

>>51509546
She's got an ass, don't she?

>>51509589
S'what I'm getting at.

Martial implies fighting. Noncombat abilities from SoM should thusly be derived in some way from your ability to fight, or your physical prowess or training.

Like that example before of 'martial summoning' being like, blowing a horn and getting guys? That's not martial at all and doesn't make a lick of sense.

>>51509633
I think the current canon is she needs 1.65 chairs

>>51509576
Hey man I like Shuguru

MFK /pfg/'s most memed characters, go!

>>51509653
The best kind of "Skills gained from martial talent" is probably the Advanced Weapon and Armor training talents. There's some pretty good things in there they could look to for inspiration or ideas.

Hell DHB's unchained fighter talents are pretty good. Steal some of those for inspiration.

>>51509653
It is all because rules for non-combat is always a huge mess.
It is the rumourmonger issue. If you make it into a rule that only lvl class x or feat y allows you to do something non-combat action, then you locked that away forever from other people

It makes somewhat sense that you need to learn how to disarm traps, but the rules for DETECTING traps are fucking inane. Because players need to detect traps, not characters.

>>51509101
So now I'm on the fence...I have their subscription for getting APs (just started with Strange Aeons because I am interested in playing it) but I hadn't planned on continuing with ironfang...but I do like the concept of exploring Azlanti ruins

>>51509546

Valeriya's got boobs, she could join in!

I'd recommend Saboten and Quinn too, but they're the wrong group!

>>51509663
Glorious

>>51509140
Lets say you are building a sorcerer, what abilities do you ensure your spell list can fulfill?

>>51509670

She's got nipples as large as your thumb, anon. That ain't right.

Personally, the best is thumb-sized but very short.

>>51509663


D-does she have trouble with doors?

Can someone post the new /pfg/ games in case I missed any?

I have or am planning on applying to:
>Wrath of the Raunchy
>Crusaders n' Shit
>Fookin' Sky Pirates
>Bathe Yourself in Blood
>When the Sun Falls

What other games that aren't explicitly ERP are around?

>>51509834

I wish there was Game of Thrones in Brevoy, but beyond that dream we got nothin'

>>51509663
>tfw one of the characters takes ranks in profession (woodworking) just to make the spooder a comfy rocking chair for the fireside

>tfw planning on making a game advertisement
>gonna make it in a prime playing time slot
>gonna accept 6 players
>suddenly cancel the night of the game, never show up again
>ruin their chance to get into other games

I can't want for the butthurt. Worst part is you'll never know if the advertisement is me!

>>51509851

Wouldn't that be a Craft check, not Profession?

>>51509829
Oh, pshaw, don't be silly, anon!

She has Escape Artist.

>>51509872
You have to make it realastic though. Have like a kick-ass setting but something in the char-gen that pisses some people off.

Something like "PoW is fine, but no starting attribues above 18" or something.

>>51509851
She already has the most comfortable ass in the world. She can sit any where

>>51509872
You know that's what happened with Molthune, right?

Whatever happened to DrowAnon's LotLK game?

>>51509882
Not necessarily. If he wants to make a masterwork one, then yes, but if he's a woodworker, there's no reason he can't make a chair. Professions are catchall categories for a reason.

>>51509911
Scheduling between at least three of the players and the GM messed with it, so it's been put on indefinte hiatus, potentially coming back to it later.

>>51509828
Nipples the size of your thumb with areola the diameter of your palm on breasts as big as your head is best

>>51509798
That spoiler reminds me: Are the loli-twins actually lolis or is that merely shitposting, and was it ever confirmed whether shapeshifter-kun ever had a female identity in the past?

>>51509887
Oh I have plans for that. Can't say what they are though or it'll tip people off.

>>51509895
Did it really? That's funny honestly.

>>51509895
Wait what happened to it?

>>51509917

>He doesn't want to make a lacquered chair done in the Empire style, inlaid with silver and plush with velvet

Would I be a dick for asking if I could play DHB's homebrew in a /pfg/ game?

How long until the whole:
1pp + Forrest/Jolly becomes 1pp+Forrest/Jolly/DHB?

>>51509932

Mah nigga!

>>51509959
>>51509942

Molthune Knights had an intro session, and thereafter the GM disappeared, not even logging in since the end of the into.

>>51509959
Exactly that. Fake game was fake.
Too bad, too, the people in the group seemed rather nice.

>>51509942
>>51509872
You're a cunt, you know that?

>>51509653
>>51509719
Honestly just play DHB's unchained fighter.

It's non-magical and has an actually good mix of in and out of combat ability.

>>51509834
What are all of these?

>>51510003
He also pretended he'd been sick all week despite being perfectly fine the day before, and so intro was also short. The discord disbanded one or two days ago after everyone gave up. One guy offered to run mechs or something but it was a different system so no.

>>51509938

They are indeed children.

>>51510017
>Just play this one specific homebrew class that is much less likely to be permitted.

>>51510038
Uh oh...WoTRaunchy dm is sick too...

>>51510054
Thankfully, there's still nigh on a month before that game is supposed to even end applications.

Hope he gets better.

>>51510038
>>51510054
From what I've seen in meatspace, there does seem to be a bug going around. Maybe it's that?

>>51510031

Wrath of the Righteous with sexy lady Knights riding fat demon cock.

Crusaders is a vapid power fantasy built around kidnapping Qadiran girls because Taldan strong.

Sky Pirates is... Pirates in airships. No plot, no setting, just the premise.

Assassins in Absalom, actually very interesting!

>>51510038

Maybe the DM died?

>>51507993
Oradin can only heal teammates 5HP/turn, which is nice early but when your party gets to 6+, that don't cut it.

>>51509978
Nah, you wouldn't be a dick.
Usually, game have a questions area where players can bring up other 3rd party stuff for them to consider / look at.

Gonzo 2 was brought up in a few games and was given the ok, same with the KoP stuff.

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>>51510064
That entirely depends on one's location doesn't it? Sure I've been sick the past 3 days, but that would not stop me from an online game. Only from sunday's meatspace game because that could have infected my nephew.

And, you know, you actually warn people when you're sick, and tend to, you know, show up again when you're better.

You know?

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>>51510042
>16 year old twins

Let's do that thing we do and rate characters. It's at least a fun distraction.

Today we'll be doing the Assassins game, Bathe Yourself In Blood.

Link can be found here: https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/67813/bathe-yourself-in-blood

>Characters
Name: Kannas, of the Seven Waters.
Race: Ratfolk.
Alignment: True Neutral.
Classes: Brawler/Rogue.

Name: Cynthia Bellafountain
Race: Tiefling
Alignment: LE
Classes: Wizard(Necromancer), (Rogue) Knife Master

Name: Ormizd
Race: Elf
Alignment: Lawful Neutral
Classes: Monk (Black Asp), Slayer (Cleaner)

Name: Zindel Leroung
Race: Half-Elf
Alignment: NE
Classes: Alchemist/Barbarian

Name: Evellen
Race: Half Elf
Alignment: Chaotic neutral
Classes: Unchained Rogue Sniper / Ranger Guide

Name:Ausrehkah
Race:Kobold
Alignment:Neutral Evil
Classes:Psychokineticist (kineticist) / Alchemical Trapper Alchemist

Name: Varra, The Drunken Mask
Race: Shabti
Alignment: True Neutral
Classes: Internal Alchemist / Drunken Brute Barbarian

Name: Neboa Cysur, shadow's whispers and warmth
Race: Wayang. Originally human.
Alignment: Neutral Evil.
Classes: Shadow Oracle / Secret Broker Occultist.

Name: Arden Croft
Race: Human
Alignment: CN
Classes: Fighter/Unchained Rogue

Name: Akorian & Toad
Race: Human
Alignment: TN & CE
Classes: Symbiotic Slayer Vigilante | Shadow Warsighted Oracle

Name: Viviane Blanchet
Race: Human
Alignment: Lawful Evil
Classes: Consigliere Unchained Rogue/Mesmerist

Name: Charon Blackblood
Race: Dhampir
Alignment: Lawful Evil
Classes: Antipaladin (Tyrant) / Bard (Archaeologist)

Name: Quinn Pinkerton
Race: Human
Alignment: True Neutral
Classes: Brawler/Rogue

Name: 'Thimble'
Race: Human
Alignment: NE
Classes: Rogue(Blade Master)/Inquisitor (Infiltrator)

Currently there are 14 characters. The only /pfg/ celebrity to have created a character just far is DHB with Akorian & Toad. In a few minutes I'll roll and we'll see one character to examine in depth. I will also be doing statistics for the characters in that post.

>>51510082
Yeah well he's gonna have to prove that because that's a pretty major claim.

>>51510104
That's completely legal unless you're their teacher or a cop or otherwise in a position of power over them (then it's 18, or possibly "never" in certain particular careers).

Yes, you're an old perv if you're 34 and banging a 16 year old. But that's all. Those creepy old ladies on the bus that used to pinch my ass when I was going to college weren't pedophiles either.

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>>51510148
Fair enough I suppose, my dude. But I ask the following: if a race lives for a millennium, does that mean a 120 year old member of that race is still roughly equivalent to a 12 year old in human years?

>>51510148

>Yes, you're an old perv if you're 34 and banging a 16 year old. But that's all. Those creepy old ladies on the bus that used to pinch my ass when I was going to college weren't pedophiles either

>Casimir is 32 and the oldest woman in the party is 21
>Snickering_Anime_Whores.gif

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>>51510148
I'm reminded of that episode where Ike's hot teacher is in a relationship with him.

Everyone's reaction (except Kyle) is
>nice.
>NICE.
>... nice...
>Nice
>Nice!

>>51510148
>Those creepy old ladies on the bus that used to pinch my ass when I was going to college weren't pedophiles either.
Is there something you want to tell us anon?

Did something happen?

>>51510168
Depends entirely on how the develop mentally.

>>51510168

It might not be a 1:1 aging process. They might mature at a quick rate and just live for a very long time.

Well atleast this topic is not as bad as that one guy who said "rape is part of mature fantasy for adults"

So Molthune died, did RotJR die too?

/pfg/ games are a mistake.

>>51510148
Assuming you're a dude for a sec

Old ladies pinching a boys ass is just one of the world's double standards man, it'd be a different story if they were older men pinching a girls ass.

Aside from that I agree.

>>51510207

RotJR starts Fri/Sat.

>>51510207
RotJR hasn't even started unless you count the PbP one.

>>51510215
I think you mean ends sunday.

>>51510115
>Statistics

>Sex
7 Male
7 Female

>Races
5 Human
2 Half-elf
1 Tiefling
1 Elf
1 Shabti
1 Kobold
1 Wayang
1 Dhampir
1 Ratfolk

>Classes
7 Rogue
3 Alchemist
2 Barbarian
2 Oracle
2 Brawler
1 Inquisitor
1 Mesmerist
1 Antipaladin
1 Bard
1 Vigilante
1 Occultist
1 Fighter
1 Wizard
1 Monk
1 Slayer
1 Ranger
1 Kineticist

No surprises here. In an assassins game Rogue is most common. Human is the most common race, as with all /pfg/ games, but half-elf is in second rather than tiefling.

>>51510217
>PbP
those seem alien to me

Does anyone have the revised Bloodforge?

>>51510204

Isn't it? Game of Thrones has rape, and it's the textbook example of classic fantasy!

>>51509801
Depends.

Remembering that sorcerers can trade out spells at higher levels, you take one offense for every defense+utility spells. So 1:2 is usually your best ratio at low level. At higher levels, you can make it 1:3 or even 1:4, since you can spam your attack spells much easier. You need at least one defense and one utility spell per spell leel, and you are usually better off with 2 defense, 2 utility, and 1 attack spell for each level of spell known. when you can trade off spells, replace lower level attack spells with utility or defense, and increase the number of attack spells in your highest level slots (as these will be the ones that get through opponent saves more easily).

Fortunately, themes are easy to follow, but always have at least three elements (and preferably, all five).

>>51510168
THAT, yes. Though the numbers are off.
Elves for example, in pathfinder, reach adulthood at 110. Adulthood is when they're finally starting any specialized adventurer (it IS kind of like the military in that it's specialized training for dangerous conditions, or at the very least vastly-higher education like mage uni).

So, literally, a 100 year old elf is basically like a 13-14 year old. Takes the 'young' age category modifiers and all that. If you're doing a 90 year old elf girl, you're most definitely screwing what's legally and mechanically (yes, by the rules) underaged.

One manga, "death march" has elves a bit like that. They live ultra-long as usual, and yes, they do in fact mature that slowly both physically AND emotionally. They do *learn* fucktons in the meantime, but that 130 year old elf girl is very much a 13 year old girl (and her parents still rather childish as well, like being in jr.high and your parents still wanting to spend the night gaming because they're only in their mid 20s).

>>51510221
I forgot Alignments!


4 True Neutral
4 Neutral Evil
3 Lawful Evil
2 Chaotic Neutral
1 Lawful Neutral
1 Chaotic Evil

True Neutral and Neutral Evil are tied for the most common alignments.

What class, would be the ideal, child-like, halfling sidekick of a LE female tiefling slayer?

>>51510173
And the spider is 17

>>51510314

Unironically bard.

She's the skill, he's the tongue.

>>51510314
Depends
Magic or Nah
3rd party or nah.

>>51510115
>>51510221
>>51510289
These evaluations please me.

>>51510314
Vivisectionist alchemist

>>51510173
The creepy old ladies on the 435E were like in their 80s.

>>51510181
*exactly* what I stated actually. There were some geezers, I still remember one of them was blind and would use her cane to tap around and figure out where our legs were, anyways the old ladies would "accidentally" grab or pinch - often on the "auntie got your cheeks" level of ow - butts of college boys and girls.

Actually one day I nearly got in shit for groping a girl's ass, but nodded behind me and she realized. My hands were in the air holding my violin and the rail in the other... And this ancient elder was giving us a big toothy grin and making a tweaking motion.

No one's traumatized on this stuff, but shit as absurd as that cannot be forgotten.
Grabby Geriatrics Gingerly Groped my Gluteus

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>>51510173
>32 and 21
Well, it is true that having a daddy fetish is in vogue.
I can't wait for women to start growing out of that shit and realizing how they wasted their years.

>>51510314
>>51510345

They Fight Crime!

>>51510258
martin is a hack fraud

>>51510442
It's called becoming a cougar.

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>>51510258
>classic
>started '91, first published '96

>>51510257
Not that I've seen.

>>51510442
Anon, it's sorta pathetic how hard you are typing yourself as a bitter young guy who couldn't get a girl regardless.

>>51510204
Well, they're Half right.
They just forgot to say "Historically Accurate" first. But if you don't want fantasy with a touch of historical accurate personalitie I don't blame you, because dealing with that kind of creep isn't fun.
Most of the time.

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>>51510173
>>51510344
Does anyone even have the range of ages for the groups written down somewhere? What about all the other "background stats", like height/weight?

>>51510565

Not only that, but the campaign doesn't exactly have any 30 year olds which the PC could date anyway.

>>51510588
Pretty sure the spider's like, 5 feet tall.

>>51510588
Onryou: age 19 (Cant have her being older than Ameiko) 6'2" 240 lbs

Aranha: age 17 5'1, 110 lbs

Valeriya: age 21 5'10 160 lbs

Casimir: age 32 6'1 160 lbs

Corwin: age 21 6'6" 257

Seht: age 19 5'4 112

>>51510682
Wait, how much older *is* Ameiko supposed to be? Because that might inform how old I need to make my character.

>>51510682
Wow, Corwin is HUGE. Which one is he again?

>>51510708
>Wait, how much older *is* Ameiko supposed to be?

She's in her mid-twenties.

>>51510682
>ywn pamper the spider and make her abdomen even bigger than it already is

110 is far too skinny!

>>51510708
20

>>51510722
Stoner Ulfen with PTSD

>>51510738

The ideal weight of a girl at 5'1 is between 100 and 131 lbs!

>>51510738

onryou has profession cooking

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>>51510682
>Corwin: age 21 6'6" 257

Corwin's a real big boy, isn't he.

Did the harem game go poof?

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>>51510792
Bane joke goes here.

>>51510796

Yup, it died and went straight to hell.

Where it belongs.

>>51510732
>>51510708
>>51510682

if we go by her standard birth year. Ameiko would be 18 at the start of Rise of the Runelords

therefore Onryou is still too old.

>>51510776
BIGGER

>>51510808
first book of RotRL got bumped up by two years for RotJR

>>51510796
Yep.

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>>51510808
>therefore Onryou is still too old.

>6'2, H-cups
>17 years old

>>51510776
>>51510777
>>51510814

Onryou keeps giving Aranha WAAAAY too much food. "You're gonna blow away in the wind if you dont eat."

>>51510682
>tfw Aranha+Seht would be super cute but inevitably gets shouted down by a chorus of "BUT ONRYOU NEEDS HER HORSECOCK"

>>51510824
That means she can only go up from here!

>>51510854

Honestly, I think Aranha+Seht would be the sweetest thing - they're both peculiar runts of their respective litters and yet have come far through perseverance and skill.

>>51510854
That's always the way of it, ain't it?
>she's my perfect pure waifu
>NEEDS A BIG FAT NIG-uh i mean-ORC COCK

>>51510847
Onryou + Aranha OTP

>>51510895

Reminds me of Saber in the Nasuverse always getting paired with huge black men.

>>51510819
Well, that does make me feel a little better about playing Rubio--he's probably spent a fair bit less time watching his family business fail given the edited timeline (I think?).

>>51510854
Thing is, the voices of this rabble don't matter in the least. All that matters is what these six players work out via natural evolution of their characters.

Are there any feats or class features that specifically make you physically larger?

I know the Brute Vigilante does, but only while in your vigilante identity. Anything else though?

RoTRL GM just confirmed that the game will take place 2 years later than normal. and has a shorter timeskip of 2 years instead of 4.

Ameiko is 20, Onryou is 19. Still werks

>>51510904
I mean i'm not opposed to it.

>>51510682

Now post each of their theme songs.

>>51510115
The fact that the only interesting character is DHB's is really fucking sad.

>>51507353
Literally no reason to use guns or crossbows ever. You could make guns deal 10d6 damage and they'd STILL be terrible by midlevels unless you can reduce the reload to free action.

>>51510824
I have met a 13 year old girl who was 5'10 and had d-cups, and weighed 180. she was voluptuous and pretty, and THIRTEEN.

>>51510934
all i know is Onryou's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He40owFC_8M

>>51510934
Aranha's is https://youtu.be/c6rP-YP4c5I

>>51510682
Well, if nobody's going to do the OTHER party...

>Aster/Tia Both: 16 y/o, 5'0", [not indicated] lbs
>Etan: 26? y/o, 6'1", 145 lbs Gil is 125 y/o
>Quinn: "20's" y/o, 5'9", 125 lbs Also a woman now?
>Rubio: 21 y/o, 5'11", 193 lbs
>Saboten: 22 y/o, 5'6", 132 lbs
>Sweettooth: 62 y/o, 5'3", 131 lbs

>>51510847

by book five (or six considering things) Aranha's doubled her weight.

Nooooo! ...yes!

>>51511006

sorry, i didn't have the other sheets saved.

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>>51511006

>The fox weighs 145 lbs

>>51511027
Built like a CLAMP character, he is.

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>>51511007

>>51511027

>That filename
>Not "Etan testing the quality of his latest work."

>>51509367
>I guess you never played Call of Cthulhu in your miserable pleb life nor even read any of Lovecraft's fiction.
If that was the kind of game you wanted, you'd set fire to your Pathfinder books and one of the many systems that can actually do horror well.

>>51511024
It's cool senpai, I had them handy so I figured I might as well.

>>51511053
>My FINEST CREATION

>>51510921
Anything with spells/SoP casting/psionic powers can use the appropriate ability to increase their size.

>>51511006
Wait, Quinn's a girl?

>>51511112

got swapped once it was discovered the team was a sausage fest.

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What classes work best with a mighty bardiche?

>>51511154
MIGHTY BARBAROI

>>51511154

Barbarian, Fighter, Slayer, Warder (ZS), Warlord!

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>>51511112
>>51511126
It was a 2 (3?) to 4 for Gals/Guys before, now it's a 3 (4?) to 3 (2.5?) ratio, I think.
You can't tell me the shapeshifter didn't swing to the other side of the fence at least once.

>>51511027
>mysteriously lightweight for a human
>big and stocky for a fox

>>51511126
Who's Quinn again? I can't exactly remember.

>>51511164
>it ain't me starts playing

>>51510990
>Right in the feels

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>>51511007
>>51510847

my face when Aranha's booty goes from 1.65 chairs to 2.8

>>51511164
Brain Damage fits the character almost too well.

So I have picking theme songs for all my characters.

Right now I'm on these:

>Akorian & Toad
>Moon born Assassin
>Pink Floyd's Brain Damage
>https://youtu.be/Bg_dfV4TO2E

>Argus Mangus
>Fish man asmodean advocate tiefling
>Ween's Ocean Man
>https://youtu.be/6E5m_XtCX3c

>Morg "Bubbles" Benson
>Gun wielding monkey witch doctor
>Guns N' Roses' Welcome to the Jungle
>https://youtu.be/o1tj2zJ2Wvg

>Benjamin Reed
>Street gangster luck thief turned Lion Blade
>Creedence Clearwater Revival's Fortunate Son
>https://youtu.be/ec0XKhAHR5I

Anyone thing there would be better fits for these?

Still not sure what I'm gonna build for When the Sun Falls, but probably a Siege Engineer.

>>51510968
Christ "built for breeding" has a whole new meaning. I know you said she was 13, but how else do you describe someone with genetics like that?

Evolution decided This was the path that would "most likely" have their genes passed on.

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>>51511238
>>51510847

>Implying the wiser, more level-headed members of the group won't try to teach Aranha the value of moderation and daily exercise

>>51511320
I never found Aranha to be interesting and don't get the memeing about it. Y'all can continue or whatever, but I just won't understand.

>>51511363
Aranha was cool because she was a nice simple premise of "I want to go on an adventure like my Dad did" and "I screwed up something as a kid because I didn't quite learn it right, and have to live with it"

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>>51511320

>implying she won't completly ignoring the lesson on moderation due to loveing Onryou's glorious cooking skills.

I can already see the party interaction. and i love it.

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>>51511320
>Implying the wiser, more level-headed members of the group

What *are* the Wisdom scores of that group, anyway?

>>51511456
We got some 14s. The horse is a 13. Some negative wisdoms. Aranha's a 10.

And the wisest one is Onryou!

>>51510115
So /pfg/, who is the worst? Who is the best? Anyone have some spicy opinions?

>>51511456

Onryou 17
Aranha 10
Seht 12
Casimir 14
Corwin 7
Val 8

The important question is, what are the attractiveness scores of the RotJR parties?

>>51511568
Using what calculations?

>>51511596
IIRC it's (Cha+Str+Dex+Con)/4

>>51511596
I prefer Comeliness myself, but the usual thing here seems to be [all physical abilities] + Charisma, then divide that by 4.

>>51510934
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YlfUcnSbKDA
Guess.

>>51511503

>Wisdom 8

Jesus Christ, Val.

>Wisdom 7

PANIC

>>51511503
>tfw the only 9th-level spellcaster in either party has 8 wisdom

>>51511669
Reminder that Friday RotJR has Saboten with 5 Wis and 20 Cha, and Sweettooth with 5 Cha and 18 Wis

>>51511503
Might want to double check your numbers there. Seht has 14.

>>51511726

Who needs wisdom when magic can literally solve all your problems?

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>>51511568
>>51511608
To pull a double duty for Wis AND that silly "attractiveness modifier" for Friday team.
>mfw half this fucking party has 20 Cha
Jesus Christ

>Aster: 11 Wis, 13.75 Att
>Tia: 10 Wis, 13 Att
>Etan: 13 Wis, 12.25 Att
>Quinn: 10 Wis, 13.5 Att
>Rubio: 8 Wis, 15 Att
>Saboten: 5 Wis, 15 Att
>Sweettooth: 18 Wis, 12.25 Att
>Etan's Sword: 7 Wis, [not valid] Att

>>51511405
Aranha will end turning into a Bloatmage at this rate.

What's best for slayer, two weapons or a tou-handed weapon?

>>51511734
>>51511793
Jesus Christ, are the PbP parties at least slightly more well-rounded?

>>51511568
>>51511608
Onryou: 13.25
Aranha: 14.25
Seht: 13.25
Casimir: 13.5
Corwin: 15
Valeriya: 12.5

>>51511811
Wisdom scores are 10, 10, 14, 16, 16 in the five character party, so not bad? Attractiveness are 13, 13.5, 15.5, 15.25, and 12.25.

Nobody has a score below 10 in anything either.

Does anyone have Dreamscarred's Psicrystal book?

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>>51511669
>PANIC

LET THE FUN BEGIN!

>>51511799

She's a shapeshifter, she can deal with it.

>>51511877
Who's the highest QUALITY member? (STR+DEX)/2

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>>51512046

The joke is there is no joke.

>>51512038

Onryou and Casimir are tied with QUALITY both at 16!

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>>51512038
wait, QUALITY? how do you quantify that?

>>51512328

It's an effective split between your "attack" attributes in Dark Souls, which are Strength and Dexterity.

A character that is QUALITY in Pathfinder has an excellent distribution of Strength and Dexterity that lets them float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.

>>51512364
But what if you get Dex-to-damage? Does that alter how your QUALITY is calculated?

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>>51512399
>Does that alter how your QUALITY is calculated?

No, of course not.