/STG/ - Star Trek General

>>51475873
I spent about half a minute waiting for the gif to load before actually checking the image format, rip

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Best ship, preparing for ramming speed.

>>51476692
That's a good shot of the Steamrunner. We don't get a lot of good shots of best ship, thanks for posting one.

>>51476692
Even his ship gets Worfed.

>>51476692
See that's confusing cause I can't see where the Nebula class ship is in that picture. I think you may have posted the incorrect image, anon.

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>>51477307
>nebula
>dorf galaxy with foetal alcohol syndrome

>>51477557
>Compact, functional design
>The first multi-mission ship to be a worthy successor to the Miranda
>much less lavish interior than the galaxy class, almost like it's a military vessel or something

Sorry, anon, I ain't buying what you're selling

>>51477638
>wanting military aesthetics in Starfleet
>having to buy something
>compared to the Miranda, dogshit in ship form
No nigger, you are the faggot.

>>51478024
>bitches about military aesthetic in the same post he praises the Miranda
>the Miranda, a ship from the WoK era of a militarised Starfleet

Solid argument there buddy.

>it's gonna be one of those threads.

>>51478109
Uh, I literally called the Miranda dogshit in ship form. Not high praise, fool. Get your comebacks straight.

>>51478142
Not my fault that a Nebulafag decided to shit up the thread. Just trying to help him out.

funposting is fun

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>>51477002
Muh Talax-ilzay

>>51475873
>I thought OOP was going to post this and so waited way too long sub-edition

Sorry if I wasn't clear on that. I made sure to put the new op towards the end of the last thread so it would get used even if I wasn't around to create the new thread (which, it turns out, I wasn't).

Fantastic 'Edition' btw.

>>51477557

>galaxy with fetal alcohol syndrome

Isn't that redundant?

Although I actually -do- like the Nebula. It's not best ship though.

>>51478294
>I literally called the Miranda dogshit in ship form

You shut your whore mouth, boy

>>51478426
No, the galaxy's just a straight up downie

>>51478422
Right? Steamrunner is best girl.

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>>51476692
Who needs best ship? What you really want is comfiest ship.

>>51478575
>comfiest ship
>tiny shitty 80-man budget intrepid
>only made for planetary research and occasional supply runs
>comfy
still a beaut, just not comfy in the slightest

>>51478511

That's hilarious- for as long as I can remember I've actually thought of the Galaxy-class as looking like a ship with Down's Syndrome. I thought fetal alcohol syndrome was close enough, though, so I didn't bother to change it when I responded.

Actually, now that I really think about it the term 'hydrocephalic' is what really comes to mind. That oversized, misshapen saucer section.

>>51478602
What would you describe as comfiest, then?

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did someone say best ship?

>>51478602
>smol and cute
>nacelle fins
>lil slot for the secondary deflector
if the nova isn't even a candidate for being your shipfu, you have shit taste

>>51478642
I really don't get the hate that some people have for the Galaxy class. She's not the prettiest ship in the fleet, sure, but she follows the general design MO of Starfleets exploration cruisers.

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>>51478737
You know it
I know it
Deep down everyone knows it
Galaxy class from the TNG (not DS9, not Movie) is the comfiest, bestest ship

>>51477557
>dorf galaxy
It's funny because the nebbie was literally just a kitbash of galaxy parts when they needed a new design on short notice

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>>51478783

I'm quite partial to this one, but for RP reasons.

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dumping ships

>>51478781
The main ship we had seen before that was the Connie. After that it was the Excelsior(?). Both of those are better proportioned than the top heavy, overstuffed Galaxy.

Sovereign was a massive step forwards in terms of design. It took all the good shit from Intrepid, all the good shit from Connie and made something not shit out of it.

Also it's not a cruise liner with, for some reason, a bunch of children being used as meat shields.

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I have no idea what the fuck this is but I want one.

>>51478893
>>51478954
>>51479014
>>51479044
What are these and how do

>>51478993
Just make sure you stay out of the jeffries tubes, m'kay?

>>51478959
I don't see much common lineage between the Sovereign and Connie, to be honest. No more than between the Connie and any other star-fleet cruiser anyway. The proportions are entirely different, the general shape and colour scheme don't match up. The only thing that comes to mind is that both of them have circular deflector dishes.

>>51479121

my STO RP fleet ships. All of the ships are screenshots from STO

>>51478959
Sovereign always looked more like a very modernized Excelsior-class to me.

>>51479261
I mean the show-esque intros - was that from STO as well?

>>51479356

nah that's someone in the fleet who is a graphic designer for a living.

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>>51479187
Oh fuck yes.

That's the Kingdom of Dave.

Nobody trespasses in the realm of Innatubes.

>>51479121
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>>51479261
Not him, but damn, those are pretty

>>51479583

I'll post some more cool stuff when I get off work.

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>>51478575
>Nova class

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>>51479014
>Bellerophon

>>51480594
>has objectively best pylons and arguably best secondary hull out of all the variants (unless you prefer cochrane tacticool).
>combine that with vanilla intrepid or discovery saucer and nacelles to taste
10/10 shipfu

>>51480594

it's a science ship and uses the Intrepid bridge

>>51480711
>vanilla intrepid anything
>especially the ugly nacelles
Bellerophon is sexiest ship in the game. Too bad it's stuck with Pathfinder stats.

>>51480924
Say what you like about it, but all of the saucer options other than vanilla are literal congealed vomit.
I meant pick your own nacelles to taste, though.

>>51480924
>>51481058 (me)
Also, pathfinder stats? I've made a pretty comfy drain build out of it - not going to be breaking any DPS records, but perfectly punchy for a relative newbie to Lv60

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>>51481075

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>>51481102

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>>51481612

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>>51481700

>got new computer
>will now have to re-download STO
oh that can't be too bad, a few GB and---
>24 GB
oh fuck me, at the very least the game will look fucking beautiful when it's done

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>>51481799

aaaand now I'm done for real. my brain is barely functional after being up till 5 AM for our session last night.

hope I didn't shit up the thread.

>>51481782
Slap another 4 or 5GB on top of that if you don't want on-demand patching to have to spend 5 minutes downloading shit every time you change maps

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Alright, how would you go about fixing the Kazon. I feel like a lot of the right pieces are there already but they just didn't get the sort of stories they needed to be an engaging enemy.

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I don't know what you lot all whine about, I've gotten a couple dozen of these every year...

>>51483298
Firstly, I'd give them a bit of a redesign. The head plate thing was... novel but it made them look a tad ridiculous. Perhaps instead some sort of headdress, worn as a symbol of status.

Next I would combine their cultural backstory with the Malon and the Vaudwaar. So, up until about a century ago, the Kazon were hot shit. They ruled an empire that spanned half the quadrant. The Talaxians, Vidiians, Ocampans and whoever the fuck else was around were servants and subjects to the great Majes. Then, as happens to all empires, they became decadent and lazy. Eventually their proud Empire fell to ruins and the various clans scattered, culminating in the destruction of the Kazon home world.

Now, without access to the technology they had at their height, the operate powerful, but haphazard, ships that produce dangerous amounts of Theta radiation, poisoning entire systems in their long and bitter war against their former servants and against each other.

Think something along the lines of the Mongolian hordes after the death of the last Khagann. Powerful and dangerous, yes, but nothing but a pale shadow of their former magnificence.

Now, as Voyager traverses their broken empire. A bold young leader takes to the field and seeks to restore the Kazon to mastery of the quadrant. At first he is a friend to Voyager, saving it's crew from the vidiians, but it soon becomes clear that he is a monster and, as soon as he has no further use for the Starfleet crew, he will slaughter them and turn Voyager into his personal weapon of conquest.

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Could anyone stop them if they banded together?

>>51485345
Yes, anyone who left them alone long enough to implode.

>>51483941
Bakas don't know about increasing their mouse sensitivity.

>Finished ENT
>don't want to watch Voyager
>Babylon 5 isn't streaming anywhere
>Stargate feels really fucking meh

Space scifi is really letting me down.

>>51485381
Touche.

>>51478575
Damn that's a nice ship.

Usually I just love the FUK HUEJ ships like >>51478993
But the Nova class ships just look so fucking fun.

My only gripe is the stupid looking nacelle fins, but that's just me being petty.

How I wish the new Star Trek series was going to be set on one of those during the rebuilding post DS9.

>>51478959
>Also it's not a cruise liner with, for some reason, a bunch of children being used as meat shields
Was there ever a reason why there were a bunch of children on board a ship whose mission was to explore the dangerous unknown?

Considering that the hydrocephalic Enterprise had the exact same mission as the old Connies it seems beyond incompetent. Especially when you look at the survival rate of all the Constitution.

I mean there's accidentally putting kids in danger and then there's purposely assigning them as passengers on suicide missions.

The more cynical part of me wants to say that it was a "if you screw up your children die" type incentive but surely Starfleet wouldn't be so Romulan.

>>51478536
Shit yeah, she is. Dat Spoiler.

>>51488222
No the Star Fleet guys are just too commie utopia obsessed to see that shit can go wrong and will go wrong when you poke the unknown. It should have been a colony ship really where the crew with family were just in travel most of the time. Not permanent crew on long tours that's what was so stupid about it not crew with family.

i liked sisko a lot but i think his actor tried to ham him up like shatner to kirk

>>51488222
It's representative of the arrogance/ignorance that Starfleet had developed. Despite having fought numerous wars, post Khitomer, they haven't been properly challenged.

We know that it's a recent development, as Picard is surprised by the notion, not to mention annoyed. So I'd say the the Enterprise-D was the first deep space vessel to implement it, seeing as she's the flagship. Space stations have likely had it for some time prior. After the Enterprise they began rolling out civilian residency to other ships, until Wolf 359 gave them pause and they began to reconsider that policy. After the Dominion War, absolutely no family are allowed on starships.

>>51488222
Starfleet had become a lot bigger by TNG and it was possible for ships to spend years away from the core Federation worlds during a tour of duty. Starfleet realised that this could have a profoundly negative impact on the crew as they are required to potentially leave spouses and children for a decade. So Starfleet came up with the idea of allowing a contingent of civilians on board, as a way for family-oriented crew members to avoid the hardship of separation.

>>51489053
You know what's worse for morale than not seeing family for years at a time?

Watching your family get killed.

>>51489081
Well in that case there's pretty good odds that you're dead or otherwise incapacitated from duty, so the point is kind of moot, isn't it? Being entirely cynical, Starfleet command could reasonably expect most of their crew to give their lives before allowing civilians to come to harm.

It was a peacetime decision, applied to a Federation that no longer felt threatened by its neighbours. In a way it was a demonstration of supreme arrogance.
"Hey there, Spoonheads. We put a bunch of helpless civilians on board a ship. Why don't you just destroy it? Oh wait, you can't? Your most powerful vessels can't even take out a ship that has more daycares than torpedo launchers? How embarrassing for you."

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>>51483298
>>51484189

>>51489683
I mean, yeah, that would be ideal.

>>51489617
>In a way it was a demonstration of supreme arrogance.
That goes all the way back to the TOS era at least, The UFP have always been full of themselves and think all worlds they can colonize belong to them if there isn't a sign that says 'Property of' somewhere on it. It happened in 'Arena' and even the Feds by the end of it thought they could have been in the wrong. I really hate the way Feds do expansion of territory, it is totally not an 'enlightened' way of doing it.

>>51478959
>better proportioned
By what metric? There's no specific proportioning rule via a vis starships so you can't really make claims like that. You can certainly have your opinion, but don't try to play it off like you have hard evidence to support it.

>>51492568
By the metric of not looking like it has water on the brain.

>>51492846
So you think ships look like people?

>>51493331
I think both ships and people can be ugly.

>>51494853
But specifically, you give them human attributes.

Star Trek in the POV of cadets and ensigns. Ensign qt like Ezri but not slurry.

>>51495144
*slutty

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>>51492568
>There's no specific proportioning rule via a vis starships

Actually there can be several. The Golden Ratio is a pretty good one but not the only option. But much like any other object design like architecture, there's a bunch of mathematical principles that can be applied to work out appropriate proportioning that the human brain registers as good more often than not.

I believe the Ent-D was designed with this in mind, but for many people they chose the wrong proportions to combine; namely the over-large primary hull. Much like the original Enterprise looks better with swept nacelle pylons than it does the straight ones despite the appropriate proportioning.

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>>51495240
So anon could you do a breakdown of the newest ship or know of a person to have done it already? I would like ton know just have off this thing looks is just not a me thing. Thanks

>>51489683
well...yeah, that's basically it.

>>51496351
I might have a go at it. And it's really not just you, a lot of people HATE how that thing looks. Though the colouration is well received.

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>>51496351
>that horrible combination of hard edges and curves
>that massive flat surface with literally no detail
>those marker pen nacelles

>>51496351
Not that anon but I'm gonna take a crack at it. Because what would the internet be without unsolicited opinions.

So the ship actually doesn't look terrible from a side profile. But that's mainly down to the fact that you don't actually get much of an idea of the ship's real design from it. Perhaps its just a result of how my brain works but I can see a much better design hiding in the side profile. That being said, any other angle of the ship makes it immediately clear what her principle issues are.

Namely, her saucer and stardrive sections are incongruent, her stardrive section is flat and she doesn't know what she wants to be. Let me explain.

1: Take any major Starfleet, Exploration Cruiser design in Trek. Now lets split that design in half at the neck or most likely breaking point between saucer and stardrive. You'll still see a clear design similarity. The Connie's saucer is clearly spartan, like it's star drive, the flowing curves of the Galaxy makes it organically click together, the Intrepid flows perfectly. If you cut out the Discovery's neck. There is nothing to link the 2 sections, design wise. The Saucer looks like it would fit better on a proto-Excelsior while the stardrive looks like it should have some sort of wedge design built back over it's wingspan.

2:Why is the Stardrive flat? No other ship has this. Hell, not even the original McQuarry artwork has it flat. By making the nacelles flush with the stardrive, they end up looking more like oversized stabilisers.

3: The Engines are clearly NX era. The Saucer looks like it could be TOS era and the stardrive looks to be WoK era. The Ship has 3 separate aesthetics at work simultaniously and it suffers for it.

>>51498080
...Stardrive?

>>51498628
The name given to the engineering hull in TNG. When talking about separating the ship, or problems effecting one of the hulls the referred to them as the Saucer and Stardrive sections.

>>51498628

I think he means the engineering section/secondary hull.

>>51498628
Secondary/engineering hull. TNG refers to it as the stardrive section during saucer seperation.

>>51498080
>Why is the Stardrive flat? No other ship has this. Hell, not even the original McQuarry artwork has it flat. By making the nacelles flush with the stardrive, they end up looking more like oversized stabilisers.

Worth pointing out that its only flat on the top, so its hardly as monolithic as people act like it is.

New STD footage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9QHrNdgX4U

>>51499970
>This video is not available.

>>51499987
For non-Federation citizens: http://streamable.com/2orsh

>>51499987
Work for me anon
>>51499970
OH GOD THAT LAST PIC WITH BRENT SPINER BEHIND PATRICK & THE LADY.
THAT FACE WILL HAUNT MY DREAMS!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

>>51499970
...Is that the same announcer guy who did all the Trek UPN commercials?

>>51499970
>Discovery still looks like shit
>other Starfleet ship looks like it doesn't fit the design aesthetic of the era either
>that uniform
The only thing keeping me interested at this point is the cast.

>>51499970
>0:34
Oh god more pics of that ugly ass ship but from more angles now. Does anyone else think it looks like something out of the old 80's Buck Rogers show.
>0:39
Hey wait this doesn't look that bad. Could this be the actual ship and that other thing was just a bad nightmare. Please be so...

>>51500211
>Could this be the actual ship and that other thing was just a bad nightmare.
It's likely the USS Shengzhou or whatever since the captain of it was announced with the rest of the main cast.

>>51499970
>Miranda equivalent to the Discovery Class, looks better then the actual ship.

>>51478993
Ah, the USS Overcompensator. First of her class.

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Am I the only one who really likes the NX class and the general aesthetic of ENT? It's weak and underpowered and slow compared to later eras but it seems more compelling somehow.

>>51499970

Can someone post pics from that vid? I have a feeling it's region locked.

>>51501369
It is ok I guess. Never grabbed me. Doesn't look primitive enough compared to what came after. The saucer section needs fewer bulges and more plain clean lines. The revised version of the ship though with the added secondary hull, that balanced things out nicely.

>>51501144
Have you seen any of the higher-tier ships in STO? They get ridiculously huge.

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>>51501369
FASA did it better aside from the crossbar between the nacelles. STO did it one better by giving it the fucking TOS skin too.

>>51501369
I love it. Really want the NX Refit in STO, but I'm 600 lobi or 330 million EC short of affording it.

>>51501558
funny thing is that the oddy has a crew of 2500

>>51501595
sad thing is that I need the NX refit so I can get the final console

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Alright I did a really quick and dirty Fibonacci spiral comparison doodah for the Discovery.

Neither by length nor width does anything come close. It's badwrong shaped. And that's science. No it's not.But hey, halfassed proofs that it's not conforming to the golden ratio.

>>51484189
>>51483298

You don't think there's any merit to their basic concept as is,ie the worst nightmare of the Prime Directive, a profoundly primitive species uplifted by gaining access to technology centuries ahead of their development becoming warmongers that spread terror and death across a vast swath of space because no other nearby civilization has the means or will to oppose their barbaric ways because the tech's previous owners were peaceful neighbors?

Not to mention the fun little twist that they were Stargate Cavemen and the peaceful neighbors were oppressive slave overlords who are at least partially responsible for the Kazon being so warlike.

I mean, the Kazon had a lot of problems but I don't think their basic outline was one of them.

>>51485345

The Dominion.

Probably the Tholians.

The Breen? They're implied to be huge badasses who have fought off both individually with ease, it stands to reason they'd at least have a chance against them united.

>>51501566
>FASA did it better

That can be said in just about situation where a comparison can be made. Those guys knew how to make a setting that was simultaneously expansive, detailed and internally consistent.

>>51501848
Golden ratio? What is this, 1517 AD?

>>51485345
>Borg
>Undine
>Voth
I think the worst enemy to that alliance would be the alliance itself to be honest.

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>>51476692
That's not an Avenger

>>51504257
My niggah! Slap the Arbiter pylons on that bitch, and she's the finest ship Starfleet's ever wrighted.

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Worst ship, trundling through.

>>51505357
If it didn't have the big empty chunk at the ares end of it I would really like it.

>>51503832
>Voth
65,000,000 year advantage.

Gets fukkan rekt by Admiral (you) in a 23c ship of Frankensteined 2nd hand parts.

Voth are a joke without a punchline.

Borg Collective are almost dead.

Undine are reasonably formidable but breathtakingly stupid.

>>51505582
Right? Everything else about the ship is fine, but that ugly fucking rectangle space is just unforgivable.

>>51502271
Given how integral it was to the design of the original, yeah sure why not.

>>51505582
I think it'd have to be a tube or vaguely tube-like rather than flat for most of the length. If left flat like the rest of the wings, it looks weird. Needs the bulk underneath.

Maybe a hollow shuttlebay?

>>51505357
hey, the saucer's pretty sweet fampai

>>51505357
I've had a thought. It would be pretty cool if that section was supposed to allow for mission module installation. Like a Soyuz-esque sensor array or some form of weapons array.

>>51506867
That's like saying Bailey Jay has nice tits: technically correct, but missing the bigger picture.

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>>51507572
Bailey looks nicer than the Norway class.

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>>51507908
So who thought it would be a good idea to model a ship after a crab?

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>>51508565
Image related. Duh.

>>51507908
You're not wrong.

>>51505357
Playing FTL has really given me a new appreciation for ship designs where it's easy to get from one place to another. It'd be so easy to connect those two prongs so your engineers can quickly go from one nacelle to the other.

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>>51510000
This might be my /m/ mind speaking but that space looks a perfect place for a parasite vessel to dock to. Something like a storage system or MACO delivery system vessel.

>>51508565
Dunno, but THEY WERE RIGHT, YOU HACK. Saber/Sabre's GORGEOUS.

>>51511771
good taste detected

Relative newfag (at least to STO) here, this is my first anniversary event - why is it that omega stabilising always seems to cut out mid-trace? It's happened a few times before elsewhere, but none of the minigames seem as shittily broken as this one. Is there anything I can do about it?

>>51511771
The Saber was okay until I started reading the Corps of Engineers books and kept REEEing over the fact that they assigned the best engineers in Starfleet (relatively) to what is essentially a gunboat and told them to be space mechanics. Now I just purge the design from my mind.

>>51511382
I could see Section 31 turning it in to something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HhiAqtex0Q

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>>51512311

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Any STO players here that can shed some light on how weapon prices work on the exchange?
I lucked into a mk XIV epic quality pulse phaser beam array with [crtd] [dmg]x3, and while there is one on the exchange for 174mil, I have no idea if this is actually a typical price for a weapon like this or if I should be aiming lower when selling mine.

>>51512311
Now I know what to name my T6 fed escort carrier

>>51512014
Go somewhere with less lag. That happens when the game lags out. Best thing to do would be to go to the least-populated instance (game puts you in the most populated but not full instance) and try to find an omega that's a bit distant from everyone else.

>>51512856
Here's a hint: NEVER undercut. If there are obviously a bunch of undercutters (there is an obvious increase in price on the first exchange page), pick the most common price before all that happened. 80% of the time that is the "natural" price, and you will sell. Also, when a price is matched, the newest goes to the top of the list for some reason, so there is no point in undercutting by 1 or other such silliness.

>>51512856
As in there's only 1 other of your variant on sale? Yeah it's hard to gauge then.
Go for a similar price. If it doesn't sell then just drop your price gradually until it does.

alternately, compare it to other beam flavours with a similar mod and see what they sell for. There's bound to be some sort of natural price.

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>>51513194
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

>>51513300
>compare it to other beam flavours with a similar mod and see what they sell for
They're all over the place. Ranging from 25~75mil on the first page alone, and then there are still some higher than the one I'm selling.
I'll put it up for the same as the other and go from there. Thanks.

>>51512856
Lockbox stuff, especially in the first week, is pretty hard to guess. Just match him; if it sells, great, if not, no big, just lower the price a few million.

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A question for STO guys, how did shuttle bays work? Do all ships that look like they have one, can they launch smaller craft? Or does it need a console or be a certain type of ship to have launch bay ability?

>>51514068
You can get devices that launch fighters or shuttles, but those are consumables. There are specific hulls that have permanent fighters, like the Obelisk Carrier, the Cruiser carrier I can't remember right now, and the Thunderchild Escort on the Fed side and others for the other factions. Those have the fighters/shuttles as specific items.

>>51496351
Looks like art deco. I like it.

I finished watching Deep Space 9 yesterday. I gotta say that the overarching plot was the worst aspect of the show and that the Dominion was a pretty dull antagonist. Other than that the characters and premise is probably my favourite out of all the shows.

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>>51514451

>the overarching plot was the worst aspect of the show

>>51514608
Well, it became pretty uninteresting once the war with the Dominion started.

>>51514669
Congrats on your objectively shit taste. Maybe you should go watch Voyager, or season 3 of Enterprise, I'm sure they'll be more your speed.

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Have the Borg ever used cloaking technology? I know they've assimilated Romulans and Klingons, I find it weird that they would find no tactical application for tha?

Also, why does it seem like I never see anyone discussing Star Trek: Ascendancy? Is it not good or just not deep enough of a game to garner long-term discussion?

>>51505582
>Not liking twin boom fighters.

>>51514687
I dunno man, the Dominion just felt like a different flavour of the Borg. A super powerful faction with a bunch of soldiers without personality that wants to assimilate other cultures into a massive collective.

I just found the lingering conflict between Bajor and Cardassia to be a lot more interesting.

>>51514693
>Have the Borg ever used cloaking technology?
I think the borg don't do any sort of strategy other than massed frontal assault unless they absolutely have to. Hell in the TV shows their ships didn't even have shields because very few ships even had the massed firepower to put a lasting dent in them.

>Also, why does it seem like I never see anyone discussing Star Trek: Ascendancy? Is it not good or just not deep enough of a game to garner long-term discussion?
I'm actually thinking of getting it, now that I'm looking at it. This sort of strategic game is the sort of thing i think I can get my friends to play. They don't go in much for rpgs.

>>51513140
Thing is though, it's more dependant on system than traffic. I can be in orbit of Andoria with 4 players and it'll cut off when I have 15 points, but I can get through the minute perfectly fine on an ESD full to capacity.

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Why don't starships have seatbelts?

>>51515293
Because 99.999% of the time, if your inertial dampeners can't take it, seatbelts won't help either. Also, with all the exploding consoles, do you really want to be strapped in front of them?

>>51515293
>When your ass really itches but you're in the middle of a red alert

>>51515293
Because the set isn't on a gimbal. As you can see by the cast juddering around as they please, rather than moving in the same directions. Also, fluff wise, inertial dampeners are second or third on the list of shit to remove power from when the shields are losing power quickly, because reasons fuck you we're Starfleet engineers don't ask questions captain can't you see I'm up to my tits in warp core components?

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>>51514608

>>51515392

This. Unfortunately, "...and then the crew was a series of wet smears on the forward bulkheads. The end." makes for a lousy story.

>>51514780

>bunch of soldiers without personality

>Jem'hadar

>Assimilate cultures into their collective

>Founders

You did watch Deep Space Nine right?

>>51514780
Dominion were meh, yes. But S6/7 had some of the best episodes of the series. Sometimes one must look beyond the story arc to the individual stories contained within.

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>>51498663

The old Starfleet Technical Manual refers to the secondary hull as the stardrive section as well, which is why I've always referred to it that way. Not the guy who originally was using it in this thread.

>>51514068

Not in the way you're thinking. You have a special slot of small craft that you can pilot and take on specific missions that require you to climb into the ill-equipped and thrice damned things, but you can't launch them in combat as pets unless you're using a consumable (which takes up a device slot) or your ship has dedicated hangars, like the dreadnoughts, carriers, and escort carriers.

>>51514780

The Dominion is the antithesis of the Federation. Dedicated soldier caste genetically engineered and manufactured with as little free will as possible, dedicated warships whose purpose is to protect and expand the Founder's influence (rather than peacefully explore, defending only at the extreme failure of diplomacy), fear and hate taken to their logical extreme - if people hate you because you're different and want to harm you, then obviously the only thing to do is enslave or exterminate them before they can.

>>51508565

I dunno. You tell me.

Though this is more of a lobster than a crab.

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Goddamn I look good

>>51489617
That likely IS the case for most ships anyways. Most starfleet vessels don't do front-lines, and most of them don't encounter a ship-threatening situation every single week.

Plus, when they DO encounter those mega-emergencies, they tend to be of the type where the only real difference between being onboard that cruiser and being down on that planet over there is several seconds before you also die.

>>51516282
The Jem'hadar was boring.

>>51516328
Oh yeah, I totally agree. The story arch picked up towards the end as well I just thought it was dragging on forvo long while.

>>51517719
>The Dominion is the antithesis of the Federation.
Yeah, I got that. I just didn't find it interesting.

Anybody thinking about what they're gonna name their anniversary ship?

I'm feeling pretty strongly about the U.S.S. Cool Ranch.

USS Doritoprise

>>51521725
USS ITS A TRIANGLE

>>51521725
U.S.S. Nacho Grande

>>51521725

U.S.S. Bermuda.
.

>>51521725
U.S.S. It's a Fucking Leaf.

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>>51523054

>>51520851
>The Jem'Hadar were boring

I agree, actually. I kindof wish they came across a bit more like the Hirogen. With an awareness of a culture they once had and have no nearly lost.

>>51525055
They just kinda felt like a poor mans Klingons to me with almost no culture.

So what's the problem with Voyager?

>>51525812
I dislike this as an argument. It seems like any other race that has any sort of warrior code is immediately reduced down to "klingons but _____"

>>51521725
USS Triangulum.

Punny AND lore-appropriate.

>>51526512
to list a few:

1: Poor character consistency.
Janeway and Chakotay are probably the worst offenders here, but many of the others bounce around too. 1 episode Be'Lanna is calm and collected, the next shes trying to kill herself by taking dangerous missions. Pretty much the only characters that were consistent were Kim (because he never developed), 7(because borg) and the Doctor(which I thank god for).

2: inconsistent writing.
The previous point flows into this one a bit, but tone and overarching storylines were often conflicting, depending on which of the writing teams were in the office that day. And the fact that there were 2 competing writing teams should inform you as to why this was the case.

3: even more techno-babble.
Taking 30 seconds out of a tense emergency situation to tell us that if you recalibrate the positronic emitters within the thermal integrity dampeners you might just be able to invert the tetryon cascade's flux induction wave doesn't make for more tension, it just makes you wonder why anybody would make life saving procedures on board the ship so complicated.

4: failure to explore some of the obvious character development opportunities.
The crew was a mishmash of Maquis and Starfleet and the only times that really ever came up were when Be'Lanna or Chakotay threw a strop about how the didn't like the rules. Oh and a couple of times when the good writing team teased all the storylines they wanted to do in oneshot episodes (Worst Case Scenario).

>>51526531
I'm just saying that it felt like more of the same, but with less of a sting to it.

>>51526512

There's no stakes. While the premise of the show is that of a stranded ship with no ability to resupply, decades away from home, the situation further complicated by the inclusion of a terrorist crew... they pretty only do lip service to the idea.

>"Oh, we only have [X] torpedoes. Make every shot count."
>Two episodes later...
>"Fire a full tactical spread!"

It doesn't help that the ship never looks that much different over time. Some things do change, but in general it looks like an adult day care (like most fucking post TNG ships).

As this anon says >>51526740, the writing is horribly inconsistent across the board. Janeway is at times heavy handed in her authority, and other times uses a light touch. Worse, she alternates between being reasonable and downright crazy ("There's coffee in that nebula!").

And it isn't restricted to Janeway. The entire cast is inconsistent depending on the episode. I guarantee you I could write an essay about every character from TOS through DS9, but VOY I'd be writing a paragraph or two at most for each character, most of it unflattering.

Perhaps most unforgivable is how preachy VOY is. It presents situations, and then usually dictates to us, the audience, what the "correct" action was. Tuvix is a standout counter-example, but it's far from the norm for the show.

Ultimately the show is unsatisfying because there's never any sense of danger or menace. Even the borg are effectively defanged (and then further shown to completely retarded in the finale by Future Janeway). The ship can be attacked over and over and over again (for seven years, nearly every episode) and she looks more or less the exact same as she did when she entered the Delta Quadrant.

Only the one-shot-reset-to-status-quo episodes ever give us the tantalizing glimpse of the show that could have been. Everything else is forgettable.

>>51528663
Oh god the torpedoes. Now you make me have to post this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIGxMENwq1k
You monster.

It seems I'm not the only one who likes the looks and toys of the Trek setting but not how they are used. This seems to be a big flaw in a lot of Sci-fi universities, that the setting can be engaging but the stories within them are shit. I know why this is. You should never let the idea guy write the story since he's more in tune with the setting than the characters usually. So how do you fit this? I think the only time I liked how alien races worked was in Babylon 5 since they had their own race relationships with each other totally outside the human sphere of the show. It made it feel more real to me at least. That's the big problem with Trek if it is out of sight, it is out of mind where nothing seems to happen in the universe if the main characters aren't there to see it.

>>51529864
>You should never let the idea guy write the story since he's more in tune with the setting than the characters usually.
>anon goes on to praise B5, which is exactly that more than any other show
I think you got it backwards, anon. The idea guys need to be behind the scripts too. The idea guys know what they are getting at, while a bunch of staff writers might not get the whole picture. And then you get the problem of multiple writers leading to multiple interpretations of characters, etc: a good head writer can fix most of that (see DS9), but it can just as easily lead to hell (VOY).
Of course, if the ideas at the top are crap usually the scripts will be crap too: see S1-2 of TNG and ENT.

>>51529864

The thing about writers is that you need them to be good at their job, and when they aren't, you get a steaming pile of crap full of contrivance, plot holes, and inconsistency.

Anyone can be an idea guy. Not everyone can be a good writer. Good writers do research and ask questions from experts so they can get an idea of how something works if they're doing the not so wise thing of ignoring the "write what you know' commandment.

>>51531571
Helps if your experts are actually experts. They had one for Voyager to consult on native american matters, guy was a known fraud who wasn't even american let alone native.

>>51531661

Considering Scientology is an acceptable thing to believe in in Hollywood, I can't say I'm surprised.

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Reminder that Klingon-Romulan hybrids are the true master race

>>51533219
Makes me think how the strength of the parentage is for different hybrids.
>Human+Vulcan=Looks fully Vulcan
>Human+Klingon=goes about half way between with ridges still but lessen
>Romulan+Klingon=Looks almost fully Klingon except for pointed ears
I wonder if there are any hybrids in canon with the most diverse looking races?
>INB4 Troi
The two races she's from look almost the same except for the eyes so she's a bad example.

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>>51533398
Ba'el also got Romulan ridges, they just kinda blend in with the Klingon ones. She also has Romulan (ie, normal, not fucked-up) teeth and, arguably, Romulan hair.
You forgot about Cardassian-Bajoran, btw.

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>>51533453
So I was wondering if there was a Star Trek race maker/blender outside of something like STO. I would like to see what a crossbred with a Gorn would look like? And other races of course.

>>51533398
So would a Ferengi+Vulcan get huge pointy ears?

>>51536189
id do that gorn

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>>51511382
the odyssey already has a pocket defiant

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>>51523054
Fuck that's good.

>>51537492
Where does that even undock from?

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>>51540045
the nacelles fold into a compact shape

>>51537492
>>51540158
I'm only lv51. What is this and how does it work?

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>>51542097
It's a tier 5 Federation flagship, Odyssey class.
It comes in triple packs and in three separate ships (Tac, sci and eng configured).
They come with consoles that allow you to perform chevron separation, launch the auxiliary craft and deploy work bees.

The ships have also tier 6 variants, as well as a relatively cheap variant bought with fleet credit, this one is identical to the one given for free during the first anniversary event.

http://sto.gamepedia.com/Odyssey_Star_Cruiser
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Odyssey_Science_Cruiser
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Odyssey_Tactical_Cruiser
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Odyssey_Operations_Cruiser

T6 variants.
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Operations_Star_Cruiser_(T6)
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Science_Star_Cruiser_(T6)
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Tactical_Star_Cruiser_(T6)

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>>51542315
Bort is better

>>51543206
Now that is a THICC Negh'var if ever I saw one

>>51543206
>all those big heavy forward-facing weapons
>can't turn for beans

>>51543206
>Bort

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K99OWlAWeN4

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>>51542315
>chevron separation
So you could say the chevron is locked by default?

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>>51544655

>>51543441
correction: negh'var is an anorexic borp

>>51544986
But the Negh'var came first though. And, seeing as we're criticising starfleet's ships for looking like cruise ships, the Negh'var has the profile of the HMS Belfast, while the Borteas looks more like the QE2

>>51544916
>The scene where Teal'c tells a joke
I fucking love this scene. It was just such a perfect role reversal.

>>51542097
Random question - as a fellow newb, what kind of build do you run?

>>51545317
When you say "newb", what level are we talking about?

>>51543206
This ship has the side-profile of a D'Kora Marauder. This is not a good thing.

>>51545507
Relatively fresh 60, no alts, starting to make some good headway into delta and temp reps, DPS still pissing in the wind compared to literally everyone else in the STFs I'm grinding

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I really love their new interpretation of fluidic space.

>>51546294
>Inb4 a giant space angler fish comes and eats the fleet

>>51546387
You mean like that carnivorous nebula from VOY?

>>51546294
>USS Spooon

You should feel bad, anon

>>51546703
Never.

>>51546703
>>51547362
Speaking of which, ship names? Do you theme them based on the ship class, the ship role, or stuff with Captain (You)'s personal preferences/history?

>>51547606
I just pick whatever cool and/or silly name comes to my head, or I use a name generator (and pick the silly/cool name from that). Some of my characters have themed names, though the theme falls into the above.

>>51547606
I have 2 or three specific names I like to use for my main characters, but for the most part i just use ship names from various navies as well as the names of national heroes.

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>>51537492
>>51540158
>>51542315
So to any anon that knows, can and should you put all those special consoles on a single ship? And which of the special consoles is the best out of the bunch? I like to see someone use the separation and pocket escort at the same time. It would be funny to see how a 1v1 turns into a 3v1 when you do that. Is the auxiliary craft totally autonomous or can you give it orders? What can I say I really like ships with gimmicks that deal with force multiplication.
>Pic related is a favorite ship.

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>>51547606
Used to just hit random until I found something I liked, but with my AoY character I've been naming them after locations from Final Fantasy IX.

>>51548811
One: You can mount all three of the consoles on any one of the ships. Two: You probably shouldn't, the bonus(es) for doing so aren't that great. Three: You cannot launch the Chevron (saucer) and Aquarius (pocket escort) at the same time. Using either locks out the other until it is toggled off and re-docks.

>>51548899
Aww....that's kind of disappointing you can use both at the time. So which in your opinion is the superior console for the subset Odysseys? I kind of like the Aquarius escort but I have seen a vid where someone used it well. Is it actually any good or is the AI for it crap?

>>51549221
>*can't

>>51549221
Well, you gotta remember that, if you factor in the T6 versions as well, that's two sets, for a total of SEVEN consoles. So take that as you will.

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>>51548899
Oh forgot to ask but does the Aquarius count as a hanger pet or does it count as an actual ship? Since some bonus in game only kick in when things that count as ships are in play.
>Like the T6 version of pic related ship skill.

>>51548811
It just flies around and does its own thing, like the any other separated ship. Pretty lame, and more useless than even the saucer sep because you don't get a turn bonus.

>>51550614
Counts as a pet, but not a hangar pet. Don't know if it would count for the Hestia console though.

>>51550927
>It just flies around and does its own thing, like the any other separated ship. Pretty lame, and more useless than even the saucer sep because you don't get a turn bonus.
That's sad to hear, I wish Cryptic would work on their pet AI function. If they did this ships with a feature like this would be so much better. Just an ability to give targets and priority would be great but nope. Almost makes want to go out and make my own game with all these features in.

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Fucking hell.
I bought an Alfa 117 Canine Companion the other day, but I got an orange one (Uncommon) when I just wanted a grey one (Common).
I can't find anyone to trade me for a grey one +EC, or even just a straight one-for-one trade.
Anyone wanna try their luck at market jewing and trade me my orange alfa 117 canine for a grey one? They list on the market for like twice as much.

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>>51547606
I usually stick with a theme for a given captain or "group" of ships. Like, on one of my alts all the Breen ships are named after the classical Greek names for the Winds; Zephyr, Boreas, etc. My AoY captain (inb4 shill) has all the T6 retro ships named after nationalistic personifications; Olympia, Columbia, Britannia, Germania, etc.

And then there's this ugly fuck, the USS Medusa.

>>51552680
I hate that the ugliest ship in the game is also one of, if not THE, most powerful ship(s) in the game. If I could reskin that abortion into a Sovereign, an Avenger/Arbiter, or an Odyssey, I'd pay Cryptic more money than I've already paid them, and that's a lot. I have a serious problem.

Speaking of ugly ships, I want an intel cruiser, but damn do they look terrible.

>>51551604
Yeah, would be neat if you could get temporarily at least the fighter commands and order your saucer/Aquarius/other parts of the ship to either fly in close with you, just charge at everything or whatever else those commands were, the only other one i remember is the one that commands your hanger pets to dock with you for transport and repairs.

>>51547606
I like to theme them a bit with my main, which i mainly use for mirror captain playing (aka i just dress up as a mirror universe mook and try to pretend that im in the mirror universe, the lack of agony booths and agonizers does eat away at that feeling, but at least we got plenty of war).
Sobasically my ships are mostly named with some sorta imperial naming system, like Relentless, Imperious, Ozymandius. That sorta stuff.

>>51554939
Some of the foundry missions do the Mirror Uni pretty well, and along with a different outfit and ship loadout make all the difference.

>>51554336
How you planning to run it? From what I've seen of the stats, a drain build with intel spec magics seems to be a fairly safe choice

>>51555049
Can you list me those missions?

>>51555058
"Mirror Wars" is a pretty fun one.

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does he have the makings of a good nagus, /stg/?

>>51556264
nah, his lobes are too small, like a females

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>>51556371

>>51546056
Well I have 2 primary characters. First I have a Romulan Tactical officer. I've got him in a T6 Jhu'Ael (that I've put the Ar'kif skin on). It's an absolute glass cannon. High dps, high turn rate, decent shields but very little hull strength. I tend to use it like a bomber. I try to flank around the enemy, attack from a blind spot. Then I hit them with FaW, Jam-sensors and Nadion pulse fly past them and then high energy plasma torpedo the fucker.

My other character is a Human Engineer. Him I have a few builds for. 1 for a T6 exploration cruiser(done up like a Galaxy), one for a T5-U Science cruiser(done up like a Nebula) and I'm currently working on a T5-U defiant build.

The Galaxy is all tank, I want to respect her for a high dos build eventually. My Nebula I have with drain, gravity well and exotic damage.

>>51556264
He's gone bankrupt more than once. I think that technically bans him from ever entering the golden exchequer.

>>51556445
But he has also bounced back from there.
Does that count for anything in the Ferengi society?

>>51556682
Going by Quark's example, no.

>>51556264
>Trump
>doesn't even own a moon

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Ok guys, id like some help here.
Which one should i get?
A tier 6 temporal ship for my TOS era alt or a tier 6 Excelsior for my WoK inspired alt?
Pic related is what id like to pick for my TOS alt.

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>>51546056

So, one of the quickest ways to up your DPS is to find one damage type (phaser, disruptor, plasma, etc), and buy the tac consoles for that specific type. Shit stacks, yo.

Note, most of the rep and lockbox weapons have a specific damage type, but with some kind of 'perk', like DoT or a debuff. Coalition Disruptor is the current meta, though I heard it on good faith that the Pulse Phasers from the current lockbox can give them a run for their money.

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>>51557256
Excelsior.
Make sure to pick up a full set of pulse phaser beams for it too.

>>51557256

In terms of raw power, none of the Temporal ships disappoint, but the T6 ships don't automatically get the TOS skin - you have to have the lower level ship too (in the case of the Paladin T6 battle cruiser, you'd also need the T5 Ranger).

The Resolute (T6 Excelsior) has access to all the Excelsior skins/parts. But it has underwhelming stats and performance.

Does anyone one know what game engine and render the STO game uses. I want to see if it's possible to rip the models and do like a movie animation. Some of the ships look too good to not try and use n a fan short movie.

>>51557583
I already got all of those earlier TOS ships.
Except for T6 Connie.
Fuck you cryptic! Yeah i still mad!

>>51557708

Me too.

>>51555058
>>51555173
Mirror Wars was the main one I was thinking of, although to be honest I just searched "Mirror" in the foundry missions and burned through all the ones that looked interesting - most of them were from Mirror Captain (You)'s perspective, for bonus RPing fun.

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>>51552680
>Not liking Starfleets biggest warship

>>51556415
>>51557310
I'm a Fed Tac (it seemed like the safest and most vanilla choice) cap in a T6 pathfinder running a relatively comfy DrainX build - I'm split between Phaser and Polaron at the moment because of QPC and Delta Weapon sets. I actually tried to glass cannon once, climbed back into my Prometheus that was my first T5 pick (disappointing, grinded dil to buy a Luna) and filled it to the brim with tetryons from the cardie arc, along with appropriate tac consoles.

Tried it out in Midnight to see how it'd fare in some PVE, and I got about five seconds of pea-shooting before I crumpled like a paper bag.

On a whole, I just seem to have severe survivability issues - why is this? Both the prommie and the Breen Warship from this winter have much higher hull than my Pathfinder, but pop as soon as they come under any serious fire. I know Scis get a shield boost, but is it really that much? Even against Borg and their OPplsnerf shield drains, the sci ship has far better survivability - why?

Will post builds if requested, but will also fuck off if requested

>>51558375
Tacs are good for exotic damage and general damage builds. Drain is really a Science/tailored-Engineer build.

>>51558565
There is absolutely no difference in the classes anymore, except for their abilities. Even at launch, the differences in space were negligible beyond said abilities.

>>51559580
If you're shit they are, yeah.

>>51560073
Name one, ONE mechanical difference that is not an ability. ONE.

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>>51556264
He's going to make a deal with the rigelians to get a warp drive.
He's going to build a space wall to keep the Gorn out, and make them pay for it.
MEGA!

So, does anyone know how close you can make something look like a Starfleet ship and not get sued? I know some stuff got taken off Shapeways for looking too close, but they don't mess with the people making actual Trek miniatures, its weird.

>>51546056
Get into a non-faggot fleet, get the vulnerability locator consoles from the fleet spire (I'd go with +Beam or +Cannon, depending on your build) and the plasma explosion sci consoles from the fleet embassy. For your weapons I would look for [Dmg] and [CrtD] modifiers for whatever guns you can get (don't buy them from the exchange though, just craft them). Make sure you're filling up your traits and specializations - try to get stuff that increases crit chance, crit damage, shield/armor pen, etc. Get Kemocite 1 from the exchange.
>>51558375
Sci ships just have more heals in general, so their survivability can be higher. Also, T6>T5, especially the free garbage that can't even get to T5U. (And, the Pathfinder definitely has more hp than the prometheus, even at lvl 50.). Get Neutronium engineering consoles, fleet if you can. (Just a couple though, since resists have serious diminishing returns.) Escorts and sci ships are squishy no matter what, so you're kinda stuck there. The Chel Boalg from the winter event has two universal seats, so you could stick an engineer boff or two in there for more heals. Also, make sure to get that ship trait for it - the main key to survival is to kill faster, and that trait can help you do that.

>>51560149
Miracle worker. Which is a class specific ability, yes. But your qualifier is bullshit, given how STO deals with balance.

>>51561909
I said that the only difference between the classes was the abilities. I didn't say that they were nothing. I didn't say they were negligible. I said they were the only difference. And they ARE fairly small. APA is great, yes. Photonic Fleet is pretty bullshit. Miracle Worker's even better when you have that one trait. They're still pretty insignificant.

I was thinking about my Romulan-Klingon hybrid again and got to thinking what the combination of cultures might be like. Sneaky assassins and proud warriors and all that bullshit.
I realized that if you combine the two, you literally get Cardassians.

>>51562680
For all their sneakiness, Romulans seem to enjoy picking fights as much as Klingons.

>>51475873
Was pic related the best Star Trek episode of all time? Yes, it was.

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Temporal agents get their own combadge design but intel doesn't? Super lame.

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>>51564535
Found it.

>>51564677
why do they have the olympic torch on their badge?

>>51564721
It'd guess it's symbolic of illumination. Makes more sense than the regular combadges, really.
Can anyone with some photoshop abilities make some neat designs with that intel combadge style? I can't imagine I'm the only one interested in it.

>>51564721
The torch illuminates that hidden in the dark. This makes it a popular symbol with intelligence agencies.

>>51563305

I'm confused, what does the OP pic have to do with 'Balance of Terror'?

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>>51564677
Cut out the logo and gave it a transparent bg

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>>51564858
Eh, I got this far on the badge, but I'm bad at cleaning things up properly and I don't really know where to go from here.
If anybody wants to mess with it, feel free.

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Looks like I used the wrong symbol, anyway. Dumping official badges now.

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>>51565857
>>51565879

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>>51565857
>>51565879
>>51565893
And then there's this one. I don't even know what to believe now.

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>>51560198
>TFW Terra Prime was right!
I know Star Trek is supposed to be uplifting but why does only the shitty people stuff in it come true for us?

>>51526740
>Poor character consistency
Its because of this reason alone that reviewer sfdebris has a "stupid Neelix monent" reward for most VOY episodes.

>>51556445
There is a difference between a business going temporarily bankrupt (this is what Trump did, and only 4 times out of 100+ businesses) for reorganization and a PERSON going bankrupt. I suspect the latter is what matters to the Ferengi. They'd hardly be able to have a quadrant scale business empire without that distinction.

>>51567346
>4 times out of 100+ businesses
4 times out of the only 4 businesses he had that were public, and therefore needed to file for bankruptcy for the reorganization you mentioned.

>>51567733
You really don't understand any of this.

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>>51567002
>why does only the shitty people stuff in it come true for us?
It's got to get worse before it gets better. Trek Earth pre-FC was pretty damned horrible. I swear, modern liberals are so lacking in their apocalyptic imagination.

>>51569428

Hell, we haven't even gotten to the homeless internment camps, genetically-engineered tyrants, drug-addicted supersoldiers, mass euthanasia and global nuclear war yet.

>>51569663
A lot can happen in 4 years.

>>51569879

If your referring to a certain current political situation it's not going to just be one term.

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>>51570020
As was prophesied

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>>51570097
You know if you are going to go back in time to become a important historic figure in your own past. Sisko could have at least done it with a little more style you know.

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>>51570529
Yeah, he was nowhere near Archer's level.

>>51570529
>Gabriel Bell
>Literally a violent crimes nigger getting gunned down by overeager cops causing national outrage
That's it. We're already there m8, its just no one gives a shit.

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>STO
>try to make a J. U. Tylor character
>realize there's no way to even pretend having S++ Luck and E Wis in this game
I can headcanon/Drozana the rest of the stuff, but that kinda kills the feel of it. Grand Admiral (you) is just too competent and proactive(violent).

>>51485492

Seaquest bro.

>>51485492
What about Farscape?

>>51485492
Firefly

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>>51485492
Farscape, very highly recommended, especially after season one when lead has brain scrambled and show becoming increasingly insane
Firefly
The Expanse
Killjoys
Dark Matter
Star Wars: The Clone Wars, the CGI cartoon

>>51485492
Old BSG
>New BSG if he don't mind a shit ton of melodrama and a howler of an ending
Space: Above and Beyond
1980's Buck Rogers TV show

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>>51574691
>Space Above and Beyond

This is only the third post mentioning that show since I started browsing this shithole site in 2006

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>>51574757
2004fag here, seen it come up maybe five or six times, at least 3 of which were by me. I did quite like that show, still annoyed it died in a single season like so many with potential. We could really do with a resurgence of sci-fi shows like that getting thrown out to see if anything sticks. But I guess all the safe money these days is in superheroes and other licensed properties.

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