MTG Modern General

TRON IS ARCHETYPE OF PEACE REEEEEEEE

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>>51436894

I play 8-rack, because I am a fun and kind person.

>>51461156
Cheeri0s
Maybe meme fuse reanimater next
Cheeri0s is one of the few decks I've built in a while that has a good match up against tron

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>What are you playing?
GW tron, UR prowess.

>What are you building?
Thinking of either mono B controll or 8 rack.
Leaning more towards controll since dem obliterators

>Have you accepted our Lord and savior Karn Liberated into your heart?
Yes

>There's no Tron at my local meta
>I own a U-Tron deck

DARE I?

>>51461212
Is your meta aggro heavy?

If not, go for it.

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>>51461199
you know what must be done

>playing
Nothing yet
>building
Cheap red green burn
>Have you accepted our Lord and savior Karn Liberated into your heart?
Nah

>>51461156
>What are you playing?
>What are you building?
>Have you accepted our Lord and savior Karn Liberated into your heart?
I'm playing Naya Burn at the moment, and I'm building Affinity.
I have Tron built but I honestly don't enjoy playing it all that much.
I'm gonna go and get myself another Ugin and All is dust

>>51461156
>playing
Nothing
>building
Nothing
>karn
I just come here to complain about tron, because it's always a really boring matchup in MTGgoldfish Against the Odd's Videos.

>Oh look, the opponent got turn 3 karn again!

The one exception to this is when Seth had commandeer in hand. That was hilarious, and something every tron player deserves to have happen to them over and over and over again.

Fuck tron.

>>51461277
That's so diabolic I'm gonna go for it.

Thanks anon!

>>51461156
>playing
Lantern mostly sometimes Naya Burn
>building
Considering building skred or putting together my Esper control list in paper
>Have I accepted Karn
That bald faggot can eat my pithing needle fuck tron lmao

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>>51461156
>>What are you playing?
RG Breach
>>What are you building?
Enduring Ideal, because I have a fetish for the card.
>>Have you accepted our Lord and savior Karn Liberated into your heart?
I run RG Tron on MTGO, so yes, I have.

>>51461156
>What are you playing?
Legacy
>What are you building?
RW Moonwalkers
>Have you accepted our Lord and savior Karn Liberated into your heart?
yes i play him in every format hes legal

>>51461237

Damn, it is aggro heavy unfortunately. It's nothing but Delver, Eldrazi, Merfolk, Naya Burn, and Dredge. Not sure what to do.

>>51461444
Maybe post a list first what you're using in your deck?

Implying you don't run the Mindslaver lock mobo U tron.

>>51461156
>what are you playing

Angel's Grace Control primarily and some Karn Tribal on the side. Not really that crazy about Karn Tribal, its ok, but not nearly as fun as Angel's Grace Control.

>What are you Building

Considering making Titan Shift, it seems like a fun deck that suits my play style. I tend to enjoy combo decks.

>>51461317
>Seth had commandeer in hand.
which video was this?

>>51461528

Nah, the U-Tron deck I had built was one based on Possessed Portal/Spine of Ish Sah/Trading Post shenanigans, as I already had all of the cards except for the Expedition Maps (which I decided to pick up). https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-93-20-tix-modern-trading-post-tron

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>>51461673
>trading post

That brings back memories of making the shittiest mono W tron some years ago.

>Elspeth Suns Champion
>value white spells and artifacts
>trading posts which I call goat posts
>goat posts because I managed to beat couple of people with 2/3 flying goat tokens
>their faces when

It was a shit brew, but beating people with 2/3 flying goat tokens was the most fun I had with magic.

>>51461616
Ula's temple
Match 1 I think

>>51461156
>>What are you playing?
Modern Enchantress
>>What are you building?
Something with Walking Ballista
>>Have you accepted our Lord and savior Karn Liberated into your heart?
My match up is 50/50 against Tron so not yet.

My only deck is Tron but I live in a poorfag country and I'm the only one in my city with a modern deck. Online isn't satisfying. Wat do.

>>51462035
Play online.

>>51462035
Make a casual deck to play with others?

That's what I did to play with friends and have fun instead of stomping their faces 24/7

>>51461759
>>51461616
Yep, ula's temple. One of the most satisfying matches of against the odds I've seen.

>>51461156
>What are you playing?
Anything goes. Last Friday I played Affinity. Week before that, it was Tron.

>What are you building?
Thinking of trying Cheerios next week.

>Have you accepted our Lord and savior Karn Liberated into your heart?
Whatever.

>>51461429
>legacy
Me too. Just went to a few small events. Went 2-1 with Eldrazi and 2-1 with D&T. I really dug D&T.

>>51461673
Just realised, wouldn't a mono U tron be better with Obelisk of Alara and some form of mana fixing like Prisms for end their games faster?

>>51462216
i play a mud tempo-like deck

>>51462268
Wut

>>51462035
Find a stupid mechanic you like and commit to it as hard as possible. Like a fungus deck, or a samurai deck, or something along those lines.

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>>51462343
This is what I ment.

And is also on budget.

>>51462426
>samurai deck
Does anybody have that one shitters Samurai tribal deck that was posted here awhile ago?

I need a good laugh

>>51462551
No.

>>51462551
I know what cards you were referencing. I still remain confused.

>>51462762
>Mindslaver lock them
>get prism
>get obelisk
>proceed to bolt them each turn
>??????
>profit

>>51462815
>>Mindslaver lock them
Stop right there, that is literally all you need

>>51462815
Way too many resources. This is dumb.

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Haven't played 'serious' Magic in a few years. Still have some RTR standard-era GW stuff left like Temples, Voice and Smiter. Anything you can do in Modern that's worthwhile with these cards?

I love the stompy beatdowns.

>>51461277
okay

>>51462951
you can play like GW aggro, it's like the same thing but with lingering souls and wilt-leaf liege

>>51462951
GW hatebears sounds like something you might enjoy

>>51463092
>>51462985
Keeping in mind these decks aren't very good

>>51462815
get gud

>>51461156
>Have you accepted our Lord and savior Karn Liberated into your heart?

I Ceremoniously Reject him

>>51463255
Hate Bears is fine, its nowhere near as good as Legacy DnT but its still a damn fine deck. Renegade Rallier lets you Strip Mine people even harder by recurring your GQs while Leonin Arbiter is out..

>>51461422
What's an enduring ideal deck? I run enchantress and can't fathom getting away with one card a turn.

My local meta is budget 8 rack, budget American control, and budget burn.

What fun, jank decks can I play and still win?

>>51463596
Once you cast ideal you set up some kind of prison with Form of the Dragon. It's not like normal enchantress.

>>51461936
Show your list or you're a liar: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/23-01-17-bantchantress/

No one plays my snowflake deck in this format.

>>51463616
How "Budget" are we talking here senpai?

>>51463677

>no starfield
>no throne
>no courser

Do you even enchant son?

>What are you playing?
Breach
>What are you building?
Bant Knightfall
>Have you accepted our Lord and savior Karn Liberated into your heart?
Tron is a bye for Valakut :^)

>>51463477
>leonin arbiter. Dec
It's shit. The leonin gimmick is the only power it has

>>51464161

I wish enchantments that were brought back by Starfield would trigger Throne... sigh...

>>51463677
I played against an eternal dominion deck on MTGO. I was Martyr Proc and the board go to a position where neither of us could kill each other and we both had mistviel plains so no milling out either. There's no 'mutually agree to a draw' option on MTGO, so I had to play for 40 minutes just passing till he timed out.

>>51464369
Aether Vial flash Gimmicks are pretty good too.
Most decks only run like 4-5 basics, so even without Arbiter you can still GQ and Path people hard enough that you eventually out attrition them. And Aven Mindcensor works as a 5th Arbiter so its not like you have to mulligan 3-4 times to get a good hand.
Hell you can forgo the regular DnT route and play CoCo in the deck to make everything extra gay.

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Does this have a home in any deck?

>>51465014
it has a home in _____the trash

>>51465014
>6 cmc
>doesn't win you the game or immediately put you in a better position than you're opponent.
Take a guess

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>>51465110

>you're

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>>51465150

hey /tg/, suggestions for this 8c-rack ?
remember, there's no need to be rude.

2x lavaclaw reaches
1x arid mesa
1x marsh flats
2x blood crypt
1x graven cairns
2x dragonskull summit
2x mountain
4x bloodstained mire
9x swamp
4x liliana of the veil
4x the rack
4x shrieking affliction
4x crack the earth
4x inquisition of kozilek
4x raven's crime
3x funeral charm
3x blightning
3x dismember
3x thoughtseize
sb:
2x waste not
2x death's shadow
3x lightning bolt
2x kolaghan's command
3x rakdos charm
3x slaughter games

>>51461712
Dude ive been trying to do that for a while now. Westvale abbey is pretty cool, ie sacrifice the goats to satan. Its janky and slow af

>>51465229

What is your plan for getting around Leyline of Sanctity/Ivory Mask?

I'm not sure Crack the Earth would work well in the deck, because your opponent can choose any permanent, even land, to avoid having to sack their protection against the Rack.

An idea that might work is to replace Crack the Earth with Smallpox, which would let you hit an opponent's land-creature-hand, but also include Haunted Plate Mail as an alternative win-condition that could skirt around smallpox.

>>51465354
Leyline doesn't protect against the Rack

>>51465354
Why would anyone play Ivory Mask over Leyline?

>>51465382

Huh, doing a little bit of research, you're right. The Rack doesn't say "target." That's weird.

>>51465383

Budget.

>>51465354
actually i like crack the earth and i like how umpredictable is, and if you don't like it it's a no-remorse discarding for the +1 of liliana

>>51465382
>>51465444

wait, derp, I meant their protection against discard, which would be their protection against the rack. You can't target them with your discard spells when they have Leyline of Sanctity/Ivory Mask out, so you still have to have a way to deal with that.

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>>51461156
>Playing?
Jeskai ThopterSword, FourColor Gifts and Grixis Delver

>Building?
Legacy Recruiterless-Aluren

>Karn?
Fuck Karn.

>>51465229
my suggestion is to start playing an actual deck

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Is putting Skaab Ruinator and Myr Superion into a bant CoCo shell too memey?

>>51465652
Superion is hilarious because you usually can cast it for {2}, or just tutor it. Ruinator is still a problem to cast sometimes, I would not put it in.

Chording for {2} against an attacking reality smasher is fun as shit.

>>51463845
Like "I can't afford khan fetches" budget

>>51467148
Don't bother

>>51467179
Don't bother paying a non-meta deck that can beat people's budget version decks?

I was asking what was a fun deck to shit on buffet versions of 8 rack and burn.

>>51467205
Probably budget Boggles

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Haven't played since i was a kid, but i was cleaning my room, found this waaay under my bed.

I gave all my other cards away long ago, should i just throw this one out, or is it worth something?

Pic related, i looked it up on google images.

>>51467510
apparently so
http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/arabian-nights/diamond-valley

>>51467535
o fuck

where can i sell this thing?

>>51467510
You can buy a home console with it. Congratulations.

>>51467542
eBay.

>>51461191
Any suggestions for improving this
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/16-09-16-assisted-suicide/

>>51468438

What decks have been giving you trouble?

Which K-ON! should I sleeve Lantern in?

>>51468540
Burn and Tron but I feel like generally its too slow

>>51468578
The black haired twins

>>51461156
>>What are you playing?
thalia & friends nobody-can-have-fun-but-me variety hour

>>What are you building?
a salt mine

>>Have you accepted our Lord and savior Karn Liberated into your heart?
costs 8

>>51468725
He's a Tron star what do you expect.
Dropping one him turn 4 is pretty magical

>>51462815

Mindslaver lock IS the wincon. Why run a card that's only good when you've already won?

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>>51468745
>He's a Tron star what do you expect.
i expect you to try to pay 8 mana for your 7 mana funwalker while i'm ghost quartering your tron lands.

>Dropping one him turn 4 is pretty magical
good luck i'm behind 7 phyrexian revokers.

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>>51461156
>playing?
I just ported my legacy Elves to this heap of a format.

>building?
Nothing, as Modern is linear bullshit.

>Karn?
Not yet, but he's quite the liberal so who knows.

>>51468881
Nobody cares dude

>>51468881
I just took my Victimize/BuriedAlive/Gravecrawler/CulltheWeak/Zombie tribal deck and changed to modern.

>literally not a single grave tutor left besides Gifts Ungiven, im using doomed necromancer and zombify unless theres better modern return to play or tutor cards for graveyard

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>What are you playing?
Eldrazi-Tron
>What are you building?
Goblin Burn
>Have you accepted our Lord and savior Karn Liberated into your heart?
Yeah he exiled my wallet. He's certainly good but I often play the Ceaseless hunger instead

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>>51469221
No wonder dolphins want to fuck humans

>>51461156
I played a bit of hearthstone back at school, but I'm curious as to why the card in the OP's pic would be viable for tournament play?

Is that level of control normal in pro MtG?

>>51469270
wow, headfuck there. I meant Mtg back at school

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>tfw that stupid cheerios deck is going to get opal banned
How will I play my robots ;_;

>>51469270
He goes in a deck that looks to play him on turn 3. He comes down and takes out any permanent you want, then begins fucking with your opponents hand. One thing he has over most other walkers is that his plus ability gives more loyalty than his neg takes.

>>51468582

Wellll if you want to speed it up, I'd say drop the more controlly elements of it like Contaminated Ground, Waste Not, Sign in Blood, and Arena, and put in more creatures (Hypnotic Specter for discard/evasion, Black Knight if you've been running into Path). A way to gain life like "Syphon Life" in you sideboard would help against burn, which you could abuse with Dakmor Salvage. That's all the suggestions I got.

>>51469282

What Cheeri0s deck?

>>51469309
are such turn 3 drops common in the modern game? glad I stopped playing when I did

>>51469270
In a Tron deck he can drop turn 3 and start exiling permanents before you have a good response to him. He's fast and his abilities hit anything. 4+ Loyalty points for attacking your opponents hand pays for 1.33 permanent exiles which is pretty crazy. He's a strong play in a Tron deck that gets him out fast along with huge creatures and board wipes around the same time. You Karn into an All is Dust and suddenly you have an empty board turn 5 and you most important land is gone.

>>51469311
Thanks, I have a playset of Bloodghast and I was thinking of adding Cry of Contrition, what do you think of that over raven's crime (I rarely want to sacrifice the land and waste turns dredging it)

I forgot Hypnotic Spectre existed, might go for that over Black cats or Abyssal nocturnus.

>>51469337
the puresteel/sram deck that digs for retract and can bounce everytying to draw their entire deck and kill you on t2.

Yet another reason why they should just ban storm in modern. All these retards crying for fast mana bans and then something comes along to just slightly justify it and we get 2 decks that die as a byproduct of storms degeneracy.

>>51469369

Tron is a deck that, when three particular lands are on the field at the same time, they can generate 7 colorless mana together total. It's the only "fast mana" available in Modern and therefore it can power out big colorless cards faster than any other deck.

>>51468956
It seems you do, as you bothered to write down this elaborate, wellwritten retort.

>>51469430
what a ridiculous design decision.

Sounds like WoTC jumped the shark some time ago

>>51469419

Raven's Crime is neat for keeping an opponent's hand clean in the late game if you've stalled out. However, it is a control-ish card. I'd say you can drop it entirely or keep it at one. I haven't ever seen someone use Cry of Contrition or the other Haunt cards effectively in modern (it worked well enough in Limited, though). I'd keep piling in on creatures that force your opponent to discard when they enter the battlefield or when they hit the opponent.

Considering memeing on people at next fnm, Any thoughts?

4x Serum Visions
4x Sleight of Hand
4x Mana Leak
3x Spell Snare
4x Lightning Bolt
2x Spell Pierce
1x Electrolyze
3x Anger of the Gods
3x Cryptic Command
1x Logic Knot
4x Polymorph
2x Indomitable Creativity
2x Progenitus
1x Pact of Negation
4x Misty Rainforest
4x Wooded Foothills
3x Steam Vents
2x Spirebluff Canal
1x Dryad Arbor
2x Island
2x Mountain
4x Temple of Epiphany

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>>51469447
Tron lands were printed in 1994, they were re-printed and allowed into modern and they're not really broken. Being combo that needs 3 pieces that can only be played 1 at a time means its extremely susceptible to a number of cheap land removals and has counters like any other strategy. It's also weak to faster decks like Infect and burn.

The real niggerish cards that are probably a bit too good are things like Chalice of the Void or Aether Vial which are crucial for Tron and Tribal respectively

>>51469527
sorry anon, I clearly don't know what I'm talking about if they were printed in 94. I still think it's a goofy decision that breaks the meta by having everyone play them, or everyone playing land removal instead.

Then again, I think that cards like Dark Ritual are quite fun...

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>>51469682
Outside of colourless you're less likely to see Tron lands, green can just fetch and ramp faster.

Are you familiar with the Infect rule? Now thats some bad design choice.

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I kinda need help

>have all but cavern of souls and bushlands for bant eldrazi

What can I run in their place? I'm ready to shit on kids at fnm

>>51469282
Cheeri0s is a fair deck. If you tap out turn 1 you deserve to lose desu

>>51469858
why not just post the link to the page

>>51470029
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/modern-dredge-v2-1/

sorry

>>51469427
If you ban storm I'D just play lab man

>>51469527
There's no cheap land removal in modern. If you're spending more on your removal than thething you're removing costs (including value from etb, additional costs, etc) then it's expensive removal

>>51470056

>Ghost Quarters
>Tectonic Edge

>>51470075
How exactly is tectonic edge saving you from 3 tron lands?

>>51470075
>gives a basic
>costs 1 and comes far too late against tron
Neither of these cards are good against tron. Ignoring tron and having a fast clock is the only good strategy. Anything else is akin to bolting a (unequipted) memnite

Or resolving crumble to dust

>>51470092
Ghost quarters replaces it with a basic land and they're going to keep playing lands with expedition maps, Tectonic edge isn't a bad option for taking out a eldrazi temple or the Tower Turn 5. You could also run Contaminated Ground or Blood moon.
Im not suggesting you make a a deck built around these land removal, these are just land removal options a deck can take for disabling the Tron battery without having to alter colour or pay a lot of mana.

Also a lucky chalice can lock you out of most of your burn spells and instantly blow the game for you, having off cost destroy land/artifact on the sideboard could actually be a good option.

>>51469858
That is not a deck.

>>51469986
When I lacked caverns or brushlands I was using a set of Corrupted Crossroads, 1 Sea Gate Wreckage, 1 Mana Confluence, and 1 extra Yavimaya Coast.

>>51470295
yes it is

>>51470190
By turn five both Tron and Bant Eldrazi are going to be ramming your ass hard, and you're going to tap out to cut them off of 2-3 of their 6-13 mana?

14 different decks in last SCG Classic top 16. Is Modern fixed?

Also wtf is that Affinity list?? 4 Etched Champions & 3 Hangarback Walkers

>>51470531
Looks like they were expecting lots of removal

>>51470556
That's what I was thinking! Still think stock affinity is good since it steals so many wins

They basically cut Master of Etherium & Memnite slots. Memnite helps steal wins with Springleaf Drum, Arcbound Ravager, and Cranial Plating. Master of Etherium is good versus (non-white) Eldrazi as a big body. Hmm....

Something to try out at FNM & see where the strengths are! Hope of Ghirapur is another card I'd like to test (as well as Pia's Revolution). Not sure if any are relevant in the current meta to warrant deviating from stock mainboard, but FNM is pretty low stakes.

>>51469040
decklist? Does the deck actually work?

Went 3-1 with japanese Bubble Hulk at FNM
http://www.hareruyamtg.com/en/k/kD05174W/

Lack of grave-hate is a godsend (and Venser, Shaper Savant in the side)

>>51464633
What was said?

>>51470757
?

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>>51470670
This list isnt complete, Im looking for something like Gifts Ungiven and something better than zombify. I also need discards to use on myself incase I draw a big hitter

At the moments its a wildcard deck that occasionally makes your opponent pick two big creatures then lets you play them both for 2 mana. its probably wont get a lot better

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/dead-already/

Lol @ the standard babbies crying about Tron

>waah, i don't like being punished for being uninteractive!

>>51470686
You've already posted this.

Reminder that it's not worth making a Modern deck unless enemy fetchlands get a reprint at at LEAST rare in MM17.

>>51471029
Tron punishes interactive decks and gets steamrolled by uninteractive ones though

>>51471096
I just want caverns desu. I would have pulled the trigger already I'd I didn't think they were coming too.

>>51471118
It's almost as if lands should never be at rare because every deck in their colours needs them.

>>51471130
I agree, but that doesn't exactly apply to caverns

>>51471142
Still shouldn't be at rare since every tribal deck needs 4 automatically.

>>51471096
>>51471118
>not having a pile of Chinese duals and Caverns
Idiots.

>>51469682

Back In those days cards like Strip Mine and Armageddon were a thing so land destruction effects would keep you off and there were no big colourless mana sinks that were backbreaking when cast. Also against land destruction people would play mana dudes/mana rocks to beat aside land destruction. Now the current thing is Tron has far too many efficient cantrips and tutors in the deck that just find those lands quick and easy.

>>51471217
I can't read Chinese :^)

>>51463677
tappedout.net doesn't properly display the list (MB and SB are mixed, I don't know why...)
But here is the list:
1 Horizon Canopy
3 Canopy Vista
3 Plains
4 Temple Garden
4 Windswept Heath
5 Forest
3 Courser of Kruphix
3 Herald of the Pantheon
4 Eidolon of Blossoms
1 Seal of Primordium
1 Starfield of Nyx
2 Greater Auramancy
2 Journey to Nowhere
2 Leyline of Sanctity
2 Sigil of the Empty Throne
2 Sphere of Safety
4 Fertile Ground
4 Ghostly Prison
4 Utopia Sprawl
2 Idyllic Tutor
4 Kruphix's Insight
SB: 2 Stony Silence
SB: 2 Seal of Primordium
SB: 3 Rest in Peace
SB: 2 Nevermore
SB: 2 Runed Halo
SB: 2 Suppression Field
SB: 2 Leyline of Sanctity

>>51471359
I'd pay money to resolve a couple of EE on your ass.

>>51471403
The problem is either you build the Deck with Chalice in mind or EE, but not both.
And since EE is less present than Chalice I chose that.

>>51471403
>le seelver boolet ;^)

>>51471454
ee is pretty versatile. It's mostly a sideboard card due to hitting your own stuff, not lack of opponents it works against

>>51471476
I never said it wasn't. Do you understand the meaning of the term "silver bullet"?

Since this is the highest MtG thread and I don't browse /tg/ enough.

>thoughts on playing MtG Duels for a player to learn the game?

>thoughts on long term investment in MtG like this guy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciLPINVo48E

>>51471544
A very specific card generally only good against a single strategy, apposed to a versitile card that's good in many situations? Or any sideboard tech specifically for the tribal werewolves match up I guess

>>51471552
>>thoughts on playing MtG Duels for a player to learn the game?
It's good.
>>thoughts on long term investment in MtG like this guy?
I don't think it works. Rudy is funny though.

>>51471552
>highest mtg thread

not for another half-hour, ayy lmao what the fuck are you talking about?

>>51471552
>thoughts on playing MtG Duels for a player to learn the game?
It's fine to learn how to play the game.
>thoughts on long term investment in MtG like this guy?
Only a giant fucking tool would actually invest in Magic for so many reasons. If the trade of Magic cards was regulated like a real market, so many people would be in prison for all sorts of fraud and racketeering right now.

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>Tarmogoyf reprinted twice now
>STILL over a $100

>>51471557
>tribal werewolves

Don't summon that autist

>>51471625

Wait! That's actually a thing?

Best MtG youtube channels?

>Not for net decking purposes I promise.

>>51471630
There's this furry autist that post from time to time in this thread with his shitty werewolf deck.

He's not even using battle lands since "they're too expensive".

>>51471630
Pretty sure its the "rev for 15" guy

>>51471654
None

>>51471658
>battle lands
They're called Tangolands you autismal fuck. Take your nu-Wizards PC shit and suck a fat one.

>>51471715
I think you have autism. sEveryone calls them battlelands, sorry for your disability.

>>51471800
No one called them Battlelands until SCG and Wizards refused to call them anything else. It's like Creaturelands. Everyone called them something else until the coverage teams stopped calling them that.

>>51471837
Do you not call them Genderlands? It's 2017 bro come on

>>51471837
nigger, I'm talking about BFZ lands, the ones come untapped if you have 2basics in play and can be fetched. Those are battle lands.

>>51471886
They were called Tangolands the instant they were spoiled because it takes two to tango.

When did you get hooked on the cardboard crack?

Did you ever quit?

>>51470874
that looks like absolute dogshit. But I like the idea

>>51471916
Got hooked May 2012, stopped shortly after when I realised that mythic rares were the most powerful and expensive cards.

>>51471916
Scars of Mirrodin-Innistrad standard.
Tried to quit after Born of the Gods but my friend got me hooked again shortly after Fate Reforged.
How do I quit the cardboard crack train?

>>51468578
Mio

>>51471104
Gx Tron gets steamrolled by Infect, everything else is 40/60 at worst with the correct sideboard. I would argue anything running Loam+Quarter is a worse matchup than Burn or Ad Nauseam.

>>51471906

Mate that's reddit shit naming. They're called Battlelands to denote the set they're from.

>>51472067
Nobody gives two shits about the set a card is from.

>almost done with Merfolk, Grixis Delver AND Eldrazi Tron

These FNMs are going to be way more fun with my friends.

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>>51472212
Show me your Eldrazi Tron friend, im testing mine out this friday with some unsuspecting scrubs

>>51472314
It's just the standard list, with a few tweaks. I want to test it more because I think 2 Smuggler's might be a good addition. Oh, and if there are too many Ensnaring Bridges, I'll have to splash green. I have never seen a deck that folds to a single card so hard.

Main:
2x Spellskite
4x Matter Reshaper
4x Thought-Knot Seer
4x Reality Smasher
3x Endbringer
1x Wurmcoil Engine
2x Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
3x Warping Wail
3x Dismember
4x Chalice of the Void
4x Expedition Map
1x Batterskull

1x Sanctum of Ugin
3x Wastes
3x Ghost Quarter
1x Sea Gate Wreckage
4x Eldrazi Temple
The Tron lands

SB:
3x Pithin Needle
3x Relic of Progenitus
1x Oblivion Stone
2x Ratchet Bomb
2x Surgical Extraction
3x Spatial Contortion
1x All is Dust

>>51472394
I used Conduit of ruin to find Ulamog more reliably to get rid of the bridge, it is difficult though if not impossible to do with colourless unless someone knows a cheaper than 7 way to dispose of an artifact or permanent. What do you think of Endbringer? I see it in a lot of lists but I took it out, warping wail dealt with critters 1 toughness critters.

>>51472394
4x Chalice of the Void
I hate this list already.

>>51472394
A dude at my local store has a deck like, Ive had some dogshit games against him recently.
>chalice for 1 on turn 2
>Conduit turn 3 with tron lands
>Drops a temple, Void winnower
>I cant do anything
>he drops another chalice for 3
>I can only play 2 spells in my deck
>He plays Aeons torn

>>51472448
I have some Conduits here and I was thinking of using them for that reason exactly. A Wordly Tutor that comes with a big creature sounds really powerful. Have they performed well for you? How many do you run?

Endbringer has a lot of abilities, and works best in grindy matchups. It can kill lots of 1 thoughness creatures, like Lingering Souls tokens, which Warping Wail can't really deal with and can render some unfair decks useless if for some reason they're too slow since it can force an Emrakul to be unable to attack. Oh, and it draws cards too. Overall, a very efficient creature.

What would Lantern and Affinity look like if Opal got banned?

Would they even be remotely competitive?

>>51472587
I might try it again, also just remembered ratchet bomb for dealing with Ensaring Bridge, its on my sideboard

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How's your masterpiece collection coming along /tg/?

>>51472611
Affinity yes.
Lantern I don't think so.

>>51471591
"Reprinted" twice at mythic rare in limited print run premium sets that had $10 boosters. Of course that's not going to lower the price much. It's about the same as the effect expeditions had on fetchland prices.

>>51472623
I-I got a black vise and a painter's servant

>>51472647
The exact opposite, nigga.

>>51471715

t. Redditor

>>51472775
Affinity was a thing wayyyyy before opal was printed though.

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>>51461156
>What are you playing?
8 Rack
>What are you building?
Nothing However slowly aquiring pieces to splash in green in 8 rack deck
>Have you accepted our Lord and savior Karn Liberated into your heart?
>tfw surgical extract a uzra land or karn
Karn babies are my favorite matchup

>>51471906

>They were called Tangolands the instant they were spoiled because it takes two to tango.

It doesn't fucking make any sense as the land comes in 3rd. Year ago we were calling them by "cucklands" here. I'm still using that name

>>51472820
>Nothing However slowly aquiring pieces to splash in green in 8 rack deck
May I ask why?

>>51472820
Im basically just waiting for a cheap Lili to come up, in the meantime im playtesting this http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/16-09-16-assisted-suicide/

>>51472959
>Phyrexian Obliterator
>Arena
You. I like you.

>>51472827
We were arguing over the name actually. Tangolands is my preferred term too. The land IS the tango, and it takes two to do it.

>>51472618
Maybe a 2-1 split with Conduit would be ideal. I forgot to post.

>>51472535
Sounds fun, but who the fuck plays Emrakul without a way of cheating her? She's way, way too expensive, even for this deck.

>>51472623
I have a Scroll Rack, and I've been thinking about buying a Sculpting Steel, even though my wallet doesn't want me to.

>>51469282
They'll ban Retract or Grapeshot. Honestly if they hate storm so much just ban Grapeshot and Empty the Warrens. Then we can get cantrips back.

>>51465014
No. Generally speaking, by the time you can play a six CMC creature, your opponent can just hold lands in their hand and still cast everything in their deck. So in most matchups that card will be a 6CMC 5/7 colorless creature, and that's it.

>>51470075
Ghost quarter is a costly removal card. It puts you behind on land. Tectonic Edge doesn't stop tron.

Now, if wasteland was a thing in modern (and it should be, go fuck yourselves tronfags), then tron would be fair.

>>51473147
But they also hate blue so much
Because it's a color so full of unfaire mechanics, such as playing at instant speed, and preventing your opponent to goldfish.

>>51471664
Don't make me start posting Mardu lists again.

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>>51472623
None, as they are fucking ugly.

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>>51472623

I have never pulled an expedition or a masterpiece. I hate you.

>>51473501
You're dead inside.

>>51471654

Tolarian Community College.

>>51473608
Isn't that the guy who set up a patreon to bum money off of people? I haven't seen a scam that obvious since (((Anita))).

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>>51473623

I don't think you know what the word "scam" means.

>>51471096
I have money though

>>51473683
>promise better content in exchange for support
>deliver same content
>still take support

>>51471096
Fetchlands should be reprinted in a non-Standard set without a limited print-run or banned from Modern

>>51471096
>not using GBP to buy your fetches

>>51473579
Neither have I, and I've open nearly 100 Kaladesh packs and 20 AeR.

Yo! as a fairly new player which one should i get? aether revolt bundle or kaladesh bundle? I know singles is the way to go, i just feel like cracking some packs is all.Which one has better playable cards?

>>51473976
None of them in Modern, except for Fatal Push in Aether Revolt
But that's an uncommon, so you're not sure to get one

There will be Standard playable cards though, head to the Standard general

>>51472623
They're hideous, desu

>>51473590
Yes, I am. Plus I just like regular foils better.

>>51472623
Already got 4 Moxes, 4 Steels. Trying to get my first Ravager. The first time I played with my deck with the masterpieces, the feeling of that first Golden hand. So beautiful. Almost cried.

>>51474077
But they look like dogshit

>>51474103
What kind of dog do you have for its shit to look so great?

>>51474103
Do I need to scan my cock so i can cock slap you through the interweb, you little mouthbreeder?

>>51474103
The arts are great, but the borders aren't that much...

>>51474154
>>51474135
>>51474122
If I'm given a choice between the opal drawn by Baga and the fallopian tubes, I'll take Baga any day

>>51474154
Actually the borders are one of my favorite parts of the Masterpieces, specially when they are next to each other. They get connected.

>>51474225
I don't like the hands and the background. I prefer the emphasis on the Opal alone.

>>51474177
>>51471906

Just call them what they are, Shit Duals.

>>51474225
I'd take any Mox Opal any day

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>>51471715
This is and always was and a forced meme from its inception.
It was pretty much
>"Oh guise waddawe call 'em?"
>"Hmm Doublecheckers? Slowlands? Battlelands?"
>LOL HOWBOUT TANGOLANDS LOOOL TAKES TWO
>No, fuck off.
>Yeah that sounds fucking retarded.
>LOL YEAH TANGO IS COOL TANGO IS A FUNNY WORD I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT MEANS THOUGH LOLTAKES2AMIRITE
>FUCKING WIN GREAT MEME GUSY
>Stop you faggots
>ffs there's gotta be something better.
>How about Falselands? (Temple of the False God)
>No that's shit too.
>Damnit
>LOLTANGO IT IS RIGHT GUYS
>WOO TANGO, NAILED IT

Like seriously the excitement over this cancer was retarded as fuck. Every cuck just forced it everywhere and only other cucks (of which MTG has no shortage btw) perpetuated it.

>Listening to Cuck Level Podcast
>Hi Patrick!
>My Cuck Jaaay!
>So... thoughts on the uh, new BFZ spoilers?
>This upcoming standard season is looking crAZY. I'm talking only 3 Siege Rhinos in main and 1 in the side! I just. I dunno man.
>...and y'know Patrick you can sorta maybe potentially have a really decent naya deck thanks to there being both fetches and the new TANGO lands.
>The what?
>TANGO lands. That's what the new lands are called Patrick! IT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE CALLING THEM.
>Nah. I'm not calling them that.
>:'(
JUST INNOVATE, INNOVATE, INN-OVATE

It doesn't make sense when you think about it for more than a single second and aren't enamored with the retarded name which only cucks like.

>>51472827
This fml.

>Battlelands
Like Checklands at first being called m10 lands until a decent name catches on.
>Baselands
'Base' alluding to 'basic lands'
>Doublechecks
Because you check for two of something.
(Unlike a tango, which takes two INCLUDING the tango-involved subject that requires that second tango-involved object.
Have none of you cucks had basic dance lessons or basic grammar lessons? The name 'Tango' just sounds funny because of your weak ass sense of humor that makes girls around you look funny? Get the flying fuck out.)

>>51474258
>>51474332
Fucking had to repost because MYKEK JAAY wordfiltered to include kek. Shit was so funny the board itself laughed.

>>51472623
Sometimes I'm tempted but then I remember I wanna buy playsets of shit.
>>51474077
That golden hand does sound really nice though. Fuck.

>>51474225
My nigga
Volkan is based

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>>51474281
>>51474647
I'm inclined to agree.

>but tfw the full range of Mox arts will never see print.

>>51471916
7th edition, quit around betrayers/saviors and came back around tarkirs/origins.

>>51474332
You sure did spend a whole lot of time typing out what could be boiled down to "stop liking what I don't like".

>>51475290
Yeah but it just wouldn't be the same.

>>51471916
First introduced during Apocalypse, started playing in Onslaught quit after Coldsnap then came back during 2015

>>51471916
Scourge/8th Edition. Quit at the first Zendikar set. Came back during Theros.

>>51464161
Starfield is just asking for removal. An army of 2/2 enchantment creatures isn't the wincon. I'd play Sigil before Starfield

>>51472805
Yeah when artifact lands were around. Without either you're better off playing Burn or Infect.

>>51470757
That was an entirely legible post, if not technically about an enchantress deck.

>>51470038
then do that

>>51471552
>thoughts on playing MtG Duels for a player to learn the game?
Lookup Forge instead, it's free and has an AI.

>thoughts on long term investment in MtG like this guy?
Investing in MtG can't be profitable without a time machine or inside information. Rudy (that guy) makes some of that money back through selling product to his patrons, I wouldn't call that investing.

>>51471630
Technically, yes. Practically, no.

>>51471654
Tolarian Community College: Reviews of MtG products and accessories. Box openings to illustrate the financial risks.

Alpha Investments: Eccentric investor doing eccentric things.

>>51473721
>>51473683
>>51473623
Every internet celebrity has a patreon these days. If people wanted to throw money at me to do what I'd be doing anyways, I'd take it.

>>51473976
Buy singles. But if you just want to crack packs, buy a pre-release kit or a Fat-Pack from whatever set looks cool to you.

>>51473623

He was layed off from his teaching job that he had been doing for 25 years and is going to have to focus on TCC full-time now.

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>March 13, 2017
>Lantern of Insight is banned
>Mox opal is banned
>ensnaring bridge is banned
>blood moon is banned
>phyrexian mana banned
>twin unbanned
Make modern great again

>>51476555
>phyrexian mana banned
This. Will. Never. Happen.

Only two mechanics in the history of magic have been blanket banned, and they both came from the original set.

>>51476555
>banning lantern
Just kill the bridge, I'm fine with that since it makes lantern decks work when they just dump their hand without a care.
Blood moon shouldn't be banned unless they give us something that makes the same function in exchange.
Mox oppal is fucking disgusting and has no reason to exist, affinity can work without it.
And I want simian out for the same reason as probe. Fuck that card.

>>51476555

While I respect them trips, I think you're a retard.

>Butt-mad baby
>Can't beat shitty lantern
>Probably has MLP sleeves over his tier 7 homebrew

B-ban the B-boogieman, guys!

If you could master a deck, what would it be?
I'm talking like, kung-fu master a deck. Like, you're so goddamned good at the deck that you're actually known for it.

What would you master, /tg/?

>>51465201
>Implying the person who corrected your grammar is the same person asking about the card just because you're insecure about your grasp of English

Wew.

Lad.

Sure hope English isn't your first language senpai.

>>51476555

Way to spew stupid opinions twinniger

>>51468578
Yui, always. Let your opponent stare into your waifu sleeves and despair.

>>51476722
Fuck you, when I sit down at fnm I actually want to play a good game of magic and literally every card on that list is unfair in some way.
>nope you don't get to draw that
>Free rainbow Mox t1 :)
>nope you can't attack
>Hope you like mountains :)
Twin was at least interactive, this gay hoser shit and stupid prison decks need to go.

>inb4 sideboard for it
Literally nothing in Mono black that touches this garbage. I wish wizards would actually help this format.

>>51476914
Try playing an actual deck.

>>51476914
>mono black
Well theres your problem

>>51476914
>Play Mono Black
>Lose
Your opponents cards aren't the problem.

>>51476555
>wanting to ban the most creative deck we've had in a while

>>51476740
Taking turns

>>51476740
>it's a /tg/ pretends that mtg has some kind of very high skill ceiling espidoe

>>51476914
>plays a tier 4 "deck"
>complains when tiered decks beat his ass
ebin

>>51476955
>>51476934
>>51476941
Mono black control is good though. I know it's not as good as muh $3000 dollar Jund deck, but that doesn't mean it's not competitive. The problem is that these unfair cards are allowed into a format where there are no answers for them and wotc does nothing about it.

I mean I've all but given up playing modern except when it's with my EDH group, because at least they have some decency.

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>>51477006
>Mono black control is good though.

>>51477006
It's really not.

>>51477006

jesus christ just buy some ratchet bombs if you need to get rid of lantern pieces you tremendous child.

How do I use shadow of doubt and ghost quarter properly? Shadow before gq? Or gq then shadow in response?

>>51477107
>play those
>t1 inquisition or thoughtzeize + surgical extraction
>nope you can't draw that :)
Literally impossible to beat Lantern unless you spend $1000 on some balls to the wall aggro deck that's no fun to play.

Lantern deserves a ban not just because it's op, but because it's utterly unfun to play against.

>>51476740

I'm already the Elves specialist in my group. Legacy, Modern and Frontier

>>51477006

Even mono green stompy is more competitive.

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>>51477242

>>51477130

The order very rarely matters. If you're against a deck that can counter your Shadow of Doubt then cast Shadow first because that would be the only time it would matter.

>>51477242
Sometimes you have the answers, sometimes your opponent does. Stop hating on that lovable super synergistic garbage pile because you're too inflexible to alter or abandon your jank brew

>>51476555
Why exactly do people want to ban cards from decks that aren't even oppressive, or have great win rates?

>>51477969
Because they're scrubs

>>51477242
>play trash
>whine when you lose with said trash
What is the point, I don't understand.

>>51477242
Do you know why people netdeck? It's because those decks can work, even if they are very unpopular or have better substitutes, but they still work.
Currently you are hating one 2 very interesting decks that are no way in the power level of infect, Dredge, or those very fast aggro-combo decks. Affinity is basically a trademark of Modern, they oldest deck of the format, with a very interesting gamestyle and it's very interesting to see during GPs etc.
Latern is a unique control deck, one of the few true control decks in the format, it can be an aweful experience to play against, but is in no way overpowered. Modern is in a dire need of Control Decks. It has a very diverse Meta, but not a diverse Archetype. Asking to kill a deck just because of your attempt of being a snowflake in a competitive environment, while that deck being unique is just plain disgusting.
If you aren't having fun, there is a simple solution: use an effective Deck. And no, not every deck costs 1000$, many decks costs 400-500$, even other more expensive decks can be very cheap in other countries/continents, like Affinity (400-450€ in Europe).

>>51477969
Affinity have a pretty good win rate senpai
And I never tested to play against it, but cheeri0s looks strong with sram

But the others cards are ok
Also :
>playing nothing but swamps
>complaining about blood moon
????

>>51478215
He/She/It (most likely the latter one) is either baiting or doesn't know how to play, but considering his/her/its option of a Deck, is most likely the latter in all options.

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>Goryo's won the last SCG open
>Infect and Dredge didn't make top 16
wake me up inside

>>51478424
Turns out that when you run main deck ways to gain a shit load of life it makes it hard for Burn to beat you

>>51478424

>Infect on suicide watch because they no longer have free information protecting them from getting btfo after going all-in

oh, how sweet it is

>>51471359
>Courser is bad for you, swap in mesa or verduran enchantress
>Starfield is the weakest wincon imo, details below
>really need to run oblivion rings
>don't need eight mana ramps, I'd say five max or you're wasting slots
>need suppression field mainboard but be careful about fetches
>if you're running four prison you don't need two sphere's, i'd even just run 3 and 1 let tutors do their job
>mainboard a RIP as a tutor target
>you do not need four leylines of hexproof in your 75 3 is plenty i only run 2 split 1-1

About wincons:
This isn't legacy so you can't just shit angels and assume that's gonna work. I have no problems with someone wanting to run Sigil as their main wincon. It's good matchups are problems 4/4 fliers can solve and that's most things, but it's a 5 drop that has to be cast sorcery speed and you have one card that can get it back from gy and that's your other wincon here.

Ethereal armor is gas for W, and Conscription resolving ends the game on the spot usually, both options for immediate beatdown threats.

As for Starfield, while it gets back eliminated threats like ORing it also makes everything fucking targetable by creature hate and I HATE DAMNATION.

(I do Bant cause I'm a huge tool so I use Tamiyo and Tutelage mainboard with conscription and Sigil on the side. )

>>51478424
Interesting how according to /tg/ the expertise list is far superior but was strangely absent. Really makes me think

>>51479362
>Interesting how according to /tg/ the expertise list is far superior but was strangely absent. Really makes me think

Really? I never saw that. The deck is cool, don't get me wrong, but requires a lot of working parts to even be workable.

You have to have a greedy-as-all-get-out manabase, in addition to requiring multiple cards in your hand that are not at all synergistic and can even be useless without the other. All of the expertises are not worth the mana to cast them.

>>51479484
No, it was just autists spouting it

>>What are you playing?
G/R Tron, will probably jump over to GB soon

>>What are you building?
Esper narset control, not sure if should have 2 colonnades or 2 vents/1 tar-pit for man-lands

>>Have you accepted our Lord and savior Karn Liberated into your heart?
Karn is my guy

>>51479362
Interesting how one scg event means everything

>>51465579
How did you create that image?
Any site to do that?

>>51472623
I just have my mana crypt from the kaladesh prerelease.
I still wonder if I should have traded it away back when it was around $220ish, but the art is too good to trade it away now.

>>51482412

New Thread

>>51482412

>>51482412

>>51482412

What's your favorite non-meta deck?

>>51471916
my friend would always talk about mtg and i would call him a fag, eventually peaked my interest so i bought a 10$ box of commons scrapped together a deck and tried my luck at modern fnm, got rocked. and here i am 2000
$ spent later playing mono green devotion

>>51472122
But does a tango land refer to a land that requires two basics to come into play untapped? Or the one that requires you to reveal a second land from your hand? Or one that taps for two types of mana?

Naming a land with a shitty esoteric label that could easily apply to many other kinds of lands is stupid. When I say battleland you at least know what I'm talking about.

>>51473132
But you can play the card anyway. You don't need two other lands to play it.

>>51476914
Just play mono black twin. It plays exactly the same as before the ban

>>51477242
>play mono black
>complain about t1 discard
Are you just running 4 phyexian obliterators and 56 swamps or something?

>>51461277
If you're gonna go for a stupid "combo" like this, why not just splash green for prey upon or ulvenwald tracker?

>>51476707
>Mox opal is fucking disgusting and has no reason to exist, affinity can work without it.

This is ridiculously wrong. Affinity is tier 10, utter garbage, without opal, dude.

>And I want simian out for the same reason as probe. Fuck that card.
>Just kill the bridge,

Go back to Frontier.