Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

I'm supporting this thread because digits

first with a question

If you could ask the god emperor of mankind any one thing what would it be?

>>51417216
"Dude, why do you just sit around all day? We never hang out anymore."

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fourth for brother of darkness

>>51417216
Plastic SoB

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Feedback appreciated.

>>51419096
not enough renegade knights.

>>51419096
not enough bikers

>>51419096
Add a riptide wing

>>51417601
For when Night Lords aren't quite enough edge.

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You know this to be completely true /tg/.

>Except there is no Omegon tank.

>>51419700
Shame the Robute tank is no longer around because the technology to make such a wondrous tank was lost.

Should I magnetise my razorback turret and predator?

How hard are these to do without greenstuff?

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>>51419700

>here we see a rare picture of the Curze

>>51419700
I'd certainly dig an EC sniper tank

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>>51417133
So everyone knows Aeldari hate making wraith constructs because it's disrespectful necromancy. But what about the wraiths themselves? Are they indifferent, glad to be of use to their still-living brethren, or resentful? I know Wraithblades are always fucking pissed, but I forget the reason, and Lords are generally cool guys that Eldar treat a lot like Dreadnoughts, that's to say, seeking their counsel in times of battle.

>>51419096
I'd replace Zagstruk and the Stormboyz with two units of two rokkit koptaz and a painboy on a bike.

Looks dead killy.

>>51419586
night lords are edgier than the brotherhood though, maybe that's why they split from the NL. "wearing human skin for a mask? I hate imperials too but come on what the fuck"

they don't really have much fluff, the worst thing I can find about them is that they killed everybody at an astronomicon relay station and burned the astropaths alive. as far as 40k evil goes that's like 1/10 on the edgy scale, hell even loyalist marines pull stunts like that.

>>51419973
I'd imagine it is a bit similar to Dreagnoughts, though without the hypno indoctrination that marines usually get.

Thus, most Wraith constructs are probably selected from the fallen Eldar who are most likely to still want to serve on the field of battle, though most often they'll all just be wanting to rest. Some constructs may be more hesitant or angry about it, as many of them would have just been random militia who weren't really prepared to die, or to be called into service yet again

>>51417205
In the old Fluff, humanity was responsbile for the first 3 chaos gods.

>>51420102
Wraithlords and more are honored warriors like autarchs and such

>>51420133
You mean they aren't now? Where did they come from then?

>>51419973
>Eldar treat a lot like Dreadnoughts
That's because they are dreadnoughts ya whipper snappers!

>>51420168
The new fluff doesn't specify anymore from memory. It seems to imply they just "showed up", but weren't specifically caused by humanity.

>>51420176
Maybe once, but their fluff has come in leaps and bounds since they used that name. I'd say they are unique concepts from one another these days.

>>51420207
>I'd say they are unique concepts from one another these days.
They are still both mechanical bodies so that revered ancient warriors can continue to fight beyond death.

Wraithlords are still dreadnoughts, Aeldari are still Eldar. It's just a new name to make the universe seem less generic.

Same reason guardians don't use lasguns anymore, and Orks dont all have bolters and bolt pistols anymore.

>>51420168
IIRC in the old fluff Khorne came about during the mongol invasions or something, Nurgle the black plague, I forget when the other two came about

>>51420425
Pretty sure Tzeentch was the renaissance by that one, and Slaanesh was always Eldar.

>>51420425
You're right, but what I want to know is the new fluff so I can ignore it but at least be aware of it

>>51420425
>>51420458
but where did malal come from

>>51420489
Contrarian hipsters

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>>51417133
Why are there no female Custodes?
Was the emperor gay? He could have created a personal bodyguard of sexy giant amazons.

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>>51417133
Not sure if this is the thread to complain about this, but can anyone tell me what the hell is up with pic related?

I haven't been keeping up with the game much since the first gameplay they showed up. But I was checking out the DoW III website and saw this shit. The final design is mostly okay (I dislike how they pretty much gave him a claw to have the obligatory MOBA hook character); but this concept art really made me scratch my head.

I also heard from an anon that they were basing shit on the C.S Goto novels too, but he wasn't specific. Like should I be worried or something?

gangs of commorragh is so fucking cool holy shit

>>51420489
Nowhere. He was and wasn't.

>>51420513
Nigga he had the Sisters of Silence. That's like a harem of anti-psykers who instinctively make everyone but himself dislike them.

>>51420478
Not that anon, but it's basically the same thing except not humanity specific. Khorne was born from the first murder (just not the first human murder, that's the Daemon in Abaddon's sword now). and Nurgle was probably birthed from a massive plague (just not the Black Plague now). No idea about Tzeentch though.

Timeframe wise, we just know that they came into being, or at least sentience, sometime after the War of Heaven, and (obviously) before the Fall of the Eldar.

>>51420513
>>51420545
>Nigga he had the Sisters of Silence.

What this anon said.

Not to mention they, in contrast to literally everybody else, just saw him as a normal human being due to their whole null thing. Everyone saw him as some golden glowing god-like figure, while they didn't see any of that and just followed him as a human leader. Something he probably appreciated.

>>51420545
>Nigga he had the Sisters of Silence.
They are not the same thing. They weren't his bodyguards, they weren't standing guard in his bedchambers like the Custodes.
Also, what makes you think the emperor was completely immune to the discomfort they caused in psykers?

Lastly, bald girls are ugly.

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New player. I have these models unbuilt. (besides one dread and one tacquad from black reach which are set in equipiment)

What would you change or add?

The vehicles are the main thing im worried about along with special weapons with tac squads.

I will try to magnetise vehicles and special weapons as best I can. Razorback in particular and sponsons on predator look very annoying to mangetise though.

So with the continuation of Gathering Storm, what other faction character trios will we see?
>Silent King, Void Dragon shard, plastic Trazyn?
>Plastic Abbadon, Typhus, and Lucius?
>A totally-not-Sara-Kerrigan for Tyranids?

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Any way i could effectively take more than one silent sister formation?

>>51420596
Didn't John Grammaticus see beneath the Emperor's glamours and get freaked out?

It seems unlikely that all the Sisters saw the Emperor as he truly was. There's already precedence for sufficiently strong psykers overpowering blanks (Eisenhorn trilogy), and the Emperor is a pretty strong psyker.

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>>51420610
>this
>ugly

>>51420677
SHE'S CUTE

CUUUUUUUUUTE

>>51420677
Yes, looks like Abaddon.
You are supposed to shave down there, not your head reeeeeeeee...

>>51420655
>Any way i could effectively take more than one silent sister formation?
By taking two? What are you playing ITC?

Why do people keep saying the Necrons and Tau Empire are going to become allies?

>>51420705
>Yes, looks like Abaddon.

How do blind people use the internet?

>>51420745
Shitposting.

>>51420596
>>51420610
Ive had a funny theory about the silent sisters recently. I think the emperor did in fact put them next to him to guard him but also to nulify his sense to the warp. I suspect he used them to shut his mind off from distractions so he could focus on the webway. I think he also demanded they shave their heads and take a vow of silence to remind him of the tribal women he grew up with.

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I've got a pretty intense debate going on, and I was wondering what everyone's take on it was:

Suppose you have a unit blessed with Foreboding (they gain counter attack and can fire overwatch at full BS). They get charged by a unit that has invisibility (a unit that targets this unit must fire snapshots, and in combat they can only hit on 6s).

What BS would the unit with Foreboding fire overwatch with?

>>51420790
Active player decides which power gets applied first. So the one charging.

>>51420669
>It seems unlikely that all the Sisters saw the Emperor as he truly was

You could be right, I was mostly using one scene from Master of Mankind as backing for my view. Since it briefly showed a scene from their perspective, and all they saw was a man in pain (because he was on the Golden Throne), while everyone else just saw a majestic glowing light.

>>51420757
>How do blind people use the internet?
I have a browser plugin uses text to speech

>>51420624
Just because magnets are the preferred method of modularization doesn't mean it's the only viable way. If you do use magnets, consider using smaller magnets embeded into shallow holes drilled in the back of the sponsons. Then just use a large, powerful magnet on the inside wall of the rhino and rely on the big magnets' larger magnetic field to pull the sponsons on though the thin plastic.

>>51420790
Their full ballistic skill. They are still firing snap shots, just snap shots at a ballistic skill higher than 1.

>>51420745
It's mostly shitposting, the Necrons would probably see them as infestations in their Empire like they do with everybody else.

I mean it isn't impossible, they would be willing to team up like they did with the Blood Angels in the face of shit like Tyranids. But having a full on race team up is retarded. Especially since the Necrons are as fragmented as they are right now.

Though I would be fine with seeing Farsight work with a Necron force. That makes much more sense since he is more aware of the fucked up nature of the galaxy (specifically Chaos) than the rest of the Tau.

I just noticed
where is the Genestealer cults codex in the mega?

>>51420882
>having a full on race team up is retarded
An Imperium-Eldar superfriends narrative is retarded, but it's still happened.

>Allies are Come the Apocalypse for a reason, but the Apocalypse has Come

>>51420900
Its infiltrating but cant assault this turn.

>>51420918
nevermind, I found it but it's a fucking epub, who the fuck uses epubs?

>>51420938
>who the fuck uses epubs?

Everyone.

>>51420938
Games Workshop.

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So my friend is downsizing and her husband offloaded a Citadel crate full of orkz and bitz.

Pic related, it's the fifty-odd boyz/nobz, six or seven bikes and the handful of meganobz that can stand on their own at the moment.

There's some stuff I can bash together into battlewagons or trukks too, probably.

None of this is worth shit because nobody is buying orkz in this edition for some reason, so how the fuck do I play orkz?

>inb4 melee race I2

>>51420952
Oh yeah it's mostly unpainted and half-assembled if that wasn't obvious. And yes that's my unmade bed it's sitting on because I'm a slob.

>>51420952
>all of that shit is unpainted
Sadness

Anyway spam warbikes and take a look in IA8.

>>51420946
pdf is better for computers, epub is for tablet niggers

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Trying to plan an armored list with my imperial fists to mix things up. How's this for a 1250 pt anvil detatchment?

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>>51420974
I know right? He's got a tau army he's holding onto that looks gorgeous but he just bought it and sat on it for a couple of years because he couldn't find the time. Feels bad man.

Pic related's one of about eight boyz that have a lick of colour on them.

>>51420518
>but this concept art really made me scratch my head.

The point of Concept Art isn't to try and nail the final design in one go. Each of those drawings wasn't an idea of what Gorgutz *should* look like, but an idea of what he *could* look like. A concept artist will hammer out as many different possibilities as they can come up with which fit the brief they've been given, and those designs will be passed up the chain to someone who'll make a decision. Often there'll be several iterations of this process, where the higher-ups will say "give us another round, but using the arms from picture 1, the legs from 3, and the head from 6" or whatever. And you slowly evolve the design from there.

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Anyone else planning to make an army of these guys?

>>51421071
Depends on the rules

>>51420995

Do you know how many phone posting millennial newfags there are these days?

>>51421071
I've been playing mixed Craftworld/Dark Eldar superfriends armies ever since Allies were formally introduced to the rules. But I sure as hell ain't gonna repaint all my Kabal and Craftworld models.

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>>51421071
>No plastic incubi

>>51421071
Doubt I'll make an army, but I'll certainly give it a shot with the minis I already have.

>>51421071
Maybe. I've already got a pretty heavily mixed Eldar force, so this might be what I'm looking for.

is there a world eaters (post-heresy) painting guide anywhere?

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>>51421071
Do they have something to do with Craftworld Altansar?

>>51421130
Step 1. Paint red.

Step 2. Cover in Blood for the Blood God

Step 3. ???

Step 4. Profit!

>>51421130
Start with the preheresy theme. Then layer on blood effects until you cant see the blue.

>>51421142
Nah, they're a darker red. They match the Visarch.

>>51421130
>>51421145
Check Duncan's Blood Angels tac marine guide, although you might want to move a few shades brighter red.

>>51421130
I don't know of one. Request one on their facebook page. Request post heresy WE marine or maybe kharn specifically.

>>51421130
I'd use these.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QG8MAwaFVdk

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=30B1UmJ5AFc

>>51420910
It's not retarded, it's logical.
The Eldar may be cunts, but they don't want to destroy the galaxy.

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r8nh8 my 'when will the suffering of this meta end' list

Canticles of the Archmagos count would start at 5. Can give the Knights 5++ on the exposed arcs, or IWNDx2 if I go second and take damage for example.

Cohort has Fearless, Special Not!SplitFire, better Protocols, IWND from he Land Relic, and Cawl with all his gubbins, making the unit and especially Cawl nigh unkillable. Plenty of AP3 and dakka for all sorts of synergy, plus the annihilator and cawls laser for AT.

Inquisitor detachment is for skulls, scoring fodder, and potentially free orbital strike or more infiltrator hate.

>>51421071
I was restarting corsairs. I have about 1850 of them I converted from my DE. I'm going to wait on any FW purchases until I see the rules for them.

Could go either way.

>>51421071

>how do we sell all this shit no one uses?

>>51420900
The updated Mega died.

>>51421371
I mean, yes? Making products more appealing so people buy it is business 101. Why criticise?

>>51421371
I'll be thrilled if they give me a reason to use my Wyches.

>>51421371
>This is a bad thing
We do need to see some plastic Incubi though.

>>51421405
Even if they don't buff them, Ynnari get more owerful if Eldar die near them, so sacificial units would be useful.

>>51421419
That doesn't mean you want to outright waste points though. That just makes MSU more beneficial and favors taking more aggressive squads, like Melta Storm guardians rather than normal Guardians with a long range turret.

>>51421371
I mean, there are a good number of models I absolutely love but don't use because the rules are shit. So I would actually like it if they had that attitude.

>>51421436
True, but KDK have a similar mechanic, and you see sacrificial squads there.

>>51421438
>only uses models with good rules
>I hope they make busted formations for shit units
>not just using your favorite models even if they suck
Faggots like you are ruining the game.

>>51421142
>>51421164
Altansar does get mentioned I believe, but I don't think the color scheme has to do with them.

They just copy the Visarch guy, who we still don't know who is is. Other than the fact that the Incubi and Aspect Warriors respect him a great deal.

>>51421371
>tfw when i play ulthwe guardians

>>51421071

What's happening here?

Are GW merging all the Eldar factions or something? Is this it... Age of Emperor here we come.

>tfw want to take a chaos land raider and stuff to go inside
>realize CSM LRs suck
>so do termis
>also realize that I have three maulerfiends in my list
Oh well!

>>51421470
Except I do use them all the time in friendly games? I was just talking from a competitive standpoint. And no where did I mention I'd like OP formations, just things that make them viable, since a lot of the ones I like are just not worth it from a cost effectiveness view.

No need to swing that pole up your ass all the time anon.

>>51421491
There's a new Eldar Faction called Ynnari who follow Ynnead. They come from Harlequins, DEldar and Craftworlders.

They get at least one "Castellan" style detachment. Not all units will be available to it, we know this includes Haemonculi Covens stuff.

The rest of them keep doing their usual thing.

>>51421491
It's a spin-off combined mini-faction.
Calm yourself.

>>51421491
>Are GW merging all the Eldar factions or something? Is this it... Age of Emperor here we come.
No anon, it isn't. It's another Eldar faction, one that follows the God of the Dead. It isn't a union since they are still split up, with not all Eldar or Dark Eldar getting behind Ynnead.

They made this pretty clear in the livestream about the book, and the leaks of the White Dwarf. But I assume you haven't seen those yet.

>>51421401
>>51421405
>>51421418
>>51421438
>>51421478

Wyches still suck, though. Why waste points having them die when you could take guardians instead? At least they can rend something before they die, and iirc storm guardians got melta, too.

>>51421491
This >>51421549

It's going to be like that Castellans formation from Fall of Cadia that lets you pick some of the units from the different books, but probably miss out on a lot of the special characters or benefits.

On the plus side, might make running Harlequins without formations more feasible.

>>51421550

Nah I've been out of the loop of 40k for a few month. I've kept up with the releases but haven't read the new campaign books.

Good day for corsair players I suppose.

>>51421470

Except Wyches are actually unplayable garbage. You can't even pretend they're good at anything besides dying.

>>51421590
>implying corsairs are going to be included in a GW book

>>51421106
>reading dexes on your phone
WHY

>>51421623
codexes are free if you download them

>>51421599

I mean you can count as corsairs.

>>51421640
yeah but why the fuck on a phone?

>>51421674

Because its difficult to fit a 10" tablet in your pants.

>>51421623
>>51421674

Look, I'm an old fart, but I can say that having 20 free codexes on my phone is easier than paying $600 for 100lbs of books I need to drag around. It's also nice being able to use use a search function to bring up rules. Hard books have their advantages, but I can't deny the convenience of digital, especially Epubs.

As for why a phone in particular? I always have it, and I'm not going to accidentally leave it at home.

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>>51421674

> TFW Too intelligent for anything with an electric current.

Anyone got a link to the Planetary Onslaught supplement? Can't find it anywhere online

>>51421712

>100lbs of books
>he spams allied units from 20 different codexes

fuck you

>>51421786
>missing the point entirely

>>51421797

The point is you're a double faggot.

>>51421786
I'm waiting for someone to do that. It would be glorious.

Leave the orks on some objective on your corner so they can at least allow the useful parts of the army to act

>>51421742
I just personally hate phones

>>51421712
Wait so are the epubs actually free and in open circulation or are they pirated?

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>>51421591
I feel like they're a reasonable tarpit if they can actually make it into combat alive. If Dark Eldar just had a nice way of negating overwatch attacks they'd be in a much better position. It's been, admittedly, a long time since I've seen any fielded to judge them though.

Sexy, red-headed, gladiator, elf bitches must be improved, I demand it.

>>51421848
if they were in open circulation why would we need the mega

>>51421833
>double faggot
>those digits

Checks out. Sorry anon, go suck two dicks at once.

>>51421864
suck two niggas at once. suck the same nigga twice

>>51421833
That's not me :^)

>>51421857
As a compendium? I see your point. Just checking because anon was referring to whipping it out on his phone mid-game and I mostly play in my local GW so I dunno if that would go down well.

>>51421900
yeah that's fair. I think most of us just lie and say we bought it. Manager of my local GW just doesn't give a shit

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I'm wondering if maybe I should replace the Contemptor with a Hellbrute and spend the remaining free points on a fortification for the Havocs. Anyways, what do y'all think so far?

>>51419096
2/10 "nigger tier"

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Orks, Tyranids and Dark Eldar were all very noticeably nerfed in their hardcover updates. 3 of the weakest factions. Was there any reason given for this? Im genuinely curious. It cant have been by accident that the weakest factions were further nerfed.

is there a chaos space marines epub somewhere?

>>51422109
About to be collectively Squated

>>51422109
>Tyranids
>Hardcover update

When

>>51422109
The usually theory behind it is that around the start of 7th edition, GW was going to make an attempt to simplify the game. For those armies, they removed a bunch of specific special rules, wargear, and various other things that toned down the overall power level of each faction.

This might have worked, had they not given Necrons their Decurion during their release, and ignoring it entirely once Craftworlds dropped and every aspect warrior had their own rule.

At worst, it was actual malice for designers who dislike and don't play those factions. At best, it was an attempt to streamline the game that was forgotten halfway through.

>>51421478
Black Guardians are getting new rules, so you've got that, I guess.

>>51421853

They die in droves to overwatch first, then fail to wound anything, then get punched out because T3 6+/4++ isn't even that great at tar pitting anything.

>>51422172
African American Guardians*

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What army fits a doom theme most? I wanna rip and tear big guts and brain ayyliums with shotguns all with the least amount of models possible.

>>51422180

Aefrican Aemericaen Guardaens™

>>51422186
Definitely Deathwatch.

>>51422109
Tyranids were nerfed a whole update before that.

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>>51422194
I love this meme

>>51422186
Kaldor Draigo is 40K's Doomguy.

>>51422213
but then I'd have to play gey knights

>>51422233

I'm sure you could do it with Castellans

>>51422212
Maem*

>>51422249
oh shit wait, an army of castellans with draigo allied in

>>51417133
Hey Tau bros, if you're running a Farsight Enclaves list what's are some good layouts for your Crisis suits.

>>51422265
Double flamer

>>51422265
plasma gun x2, stim injector

or fusion blaster x2, stim

or 2 missile+early warning override.

>>51422180
Basketball American Guardians

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>>51422186

>>51422265
I don't run many crisis suits personally, though my friend has a couple squads. I think he runs one with some fusion blasters and extra flamers on them in case they get charged, since they'll usually be in enemy lines. He also runs a squad with Cyclic Ion and missiles for hunting marines and vehicles.

The only one I run is a triple burst cannon suit for maximum bullets.

>>51422298
Oh shit, that is too perfect

>>51422261

Castellans can't take GK. I forgot.

You could take a Deathwatch Kill team from IA with something?

>>51422281
i keked
>>51422172
not sure if i am happy with that
the chances are they will not be balanced and be written by phil kelly and as much as i like kelly writing the eldar army book he doesn't always make balanced stuff

>>51422173
Their initiative is a big advantage over other melee units, they'd probably fare a lot better if they could actually kill things when they hit them first, reducing the amount of hits they take back. The Hekatrix can hit with some force, but I wonder if maybe they'd be reasonably strong if their basic melee weapons were poisoned instead of just their pistols.

>>51422265
Depends on what you want out of them and what holes they can fill in your army.

>>51422316
I'm thinking deathwatch team with >>51422298 as a hero unit, or just a load of castellans with the same leader allied in.

>>51422314
He's literally the biggest SM in the canon. Bigger even than Abbaddon (maybe). He IS physically stronger than Abbaddon at S5.

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>>51422316
But they can take SIXTY ROUGH RIDERS.

Also Rough Riders with Hatred makes for a somewhat 'okay' unit, even though the base unit by itself is entirely meh.

>>51422358
Yea, definitely going to kitbash a model for him.

>>51421550
Where was this Livestream?

You'll all be happy to know Eternal Crusade is still garbage because Eldar are smaller, faster space marines with better guns

>>51422337

They should have melee blade storm honestly, but at 10pts, GS are still better in every single way. The Hekatrix is also a 45pt model when she has an Agonizer, so you're looking at what, 200ish points after the raider? That's a lot of points for a tarpit that as to live through the overwatch without their 4++

>>51422395
The Exorcists are one of my favorite chapters, mate.

>>51422265
Unrelated, but speaking of Farsight. If there is a Gathering Storm involving the Tau. Would it be crazy for me to think that O'kais might be someone they would bring in as a new Special Character?

They obviously need something to fill in the gap Aun'va left as meh as he was. And the references to the guy have actually gone up quite a bit in both the rule books and the Black Library books.

I mostly just want him because, other than Farsight, he's the only Tau character I actually like.

>>51422428
Not that anon, but it was the Twitch livestream from Warhammer TV yesterday.

>>51421578
>>51421591
Wyches are death activation fodder to buff your other units. GW made them dying actual benefit something

>>51422109
GW tends to wildly vacillate between periods of increasing complexity and decreasing complexity. It's possible that Orks and Dark Eldar were caught in a complexity-reduction.

GW also has major issues with their writers playing favorites and half-assing factions they don't like. Robin Cruddace, for example, had a bone to pick with Tyranids, so he gutted them for their 5E update and continued it with the 6E update. Nobody on the rules team likes Orks, so they get fucked.

>>51422438
>>200ish points for a light infantry melee troop choice
That's just gross.

>>51422428
On the official GW studio channel on twitch. Like every other livestream they've done since launching their community stuff.

What's the best way to run chosen with powerfists?

I want five powerfist chosen minimum which is 215 points off the bat, what legion should they be, how do they move around.

Do I stick these fuckers in a land raider and call it a day?

>>51422472
I didn't know they existed, but they sound hella cool

>>51422473
Doubtful. The guy is in a similar stealth suit to Shadowsun anyway, so I doubt they'd want to double up.

I'd personally expect some sort of Kroot HQ, though it depends where the campaign goes, if they get one at all.

I'm just hoping we don't get a Riptide Commander character or anything dumb like that.

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I'm waiting for all this armor shading to dry.

What are you up to /40kg/?
What are you working on? (Read: procrastinating)
Play any games? Plan to?

>>51422511
Well going by the recent fluff, I doubt they will be giving him the XV22 like Shadowsun. In the Damocles novel they mentioned he was strange, going for the Monat one man army approach, rather than Kauyon or Mont'ka.

While I really do hope they don't do a giant mech or something. Having a really heavily armored and armed personal battlesuit would be kind of neat for a Tau special character. Since the other two value mobility so much, it would be cool to have one that is really sturdy.

>>51422511
>I'm just hoping we don't get a Riptide Commander character or anything dumb like that.
You and I and everyone else here all know that's EXACTLY what we're going to get.

And by "we" I mean "warhammer" in general because I'm not a goddamn taufag.

>>51422554
what if they introduce one but kill it off

>>51422538
god they really are fat

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>>51422502
They're pretty much reasonable, if radical, Grey Knights.

Their chapter tactics are that you may choose any chapter tactic from C:SM to represent their tactical ability and combat knowledge.

They're actually GK successors.

>>51422473
>O'Kais
Sure, just like they gave us the other DOW characters in Gathering Storm I and II.

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>>51422542
I could get behind the idea of a Broadside commander. Even moreso if they give him Double Onager Gauntlets

>>51422538
>What are you working on? (Read: procrastinating)

How did you know?!

>>51422562
They didn't kill off any of the Imperial Triumvirate and it doesn't sound like they're killing off any of the Eldar ones either.

Me, I'm afraid of what they're going to do for Tyranids. If we get another fucking unique special character like the Swarmlord I will rage so fucking hard. Maybe they'll do a unique Patriarch/Magus/Primus combo for GSC instead, that would be super good.

>>51422574
More cushion for the pushin, fampai.

>>51422579
If I make my 4th army Space Marines, I'm going Exorcists. I already play GK, so it'd be cool. I just want an official Silas Alberac model.

>>51422495
>What's the best way to run chosen with powerfists?
That's an absolutely dreadful idea.

If you insist, go Death Guard to try to keep them alive and stick them in a Dreadclaw. Land Raider costs too much and might get Immobilized/Destroyed on your side of the table. A Dreadclaw at least guarantees they'll make it into midfield.

>>51422495
You don't do that. Don't do that. That's too many points for 5 MEQs with no increased survivability and a low chance of making their points back.

If you want a squad of power fists bring terminators or obliterators, or just put one power fist guy in a regular squad.

>>51422502
>>51422579
Their flexible chapter tactics combines really well with Silas's re-rolls for Deny the witch, since you can supplement that even further with Black Templar tactics to get Adamantium Will on everyone and deny on a rerollable 4+

>>51422579
>those assholes that try to claim they can pick their chapter tactics pre-deployment

>>51422594
Just remember to never ever ever let the GK or non-radical =][= find anything out about the chapter practices.

They're the Exorcists for a reason.

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>>51422538

>>51422596
>>51422595
dreadclaws are forgeworld gay how accepting are people at allowing me to take normal drop pods and build them with the tines upside down

what if I fill them out with chaff chosen as ablative wounds

I was liking the look of deathguard for relentless so all their boltguns can fire before they fist things to death

I've got six oblits that I like to run as a death cult, don't like them getting into melee ever.

What about a butcherhorde so they can do the 2d6 move, fuck the raider, fuck the dreadclaw?

>>51422538
>What are you working on? (Read: procrastinating

I just got a bunch of new models in, and I'm debating what to work on...Noise marine squads, a Daemon Prince, Harlequin bikes, Necron warriors, loyalist Tacticals, two different Rhinos...

I may have gone a bit overboard.

The Imperium and Eldar both had multiple factions being tied together with their Triumverates. Why do people think every faction will get one?

>>51422637
Haha, awesome!

>>51422594
>More cushion for the pushin, fampai.
best answer

>>51422608
>>51422579
Shit, now you're making me want to start another cool army

>>51422650
Because GW said there'll be something for everyone in ther stream.

>>51422643
I'd say to go with 2 powerfists, and have the other 3 chosen meatshielding as a baseline. One fist on the champ and one hidden in the squad should give you plenty of attacks with them.

>>51422481
>free kill points for the enemy in exchange for a minor buff while also losing 50 points minimum plus transport

>>51422643
>how accepting are people at allowing me to take normal drop pods and build them with the tines upside down
Very.

Definitely take a couple ablative wounds.

Five Power Fist chosen running around on foot is just stacking retardation on top of retardation. It doesn't suddenly turn into a good idea, it just gets more retarded.

>>51422473
No, you're gonna get that crazy Earth Caste guy in some bullshit new suit and you're going to like it.

>>51422650
Every Faction might not be getting a Triumvirate per se but every Faction is getting new content in Gathering Storm.

>>51422676
>minor buff

You know what they get?

>>51422667
Sure, everyone will get something. That doesn't mean triumverates.

>>51422659
They're the Exorcists because to become a fully fledged Battle-Brother after being a Scout is that they lock you in a room with a Librarian, a Chaplain, and an Inquisitor, iirc. They then shove a Daemon in you which you must then exorcise out of yourself by sheer willpower alone. To do so marks you nearly invisible to Daemons. To fail means a bolt round to the head. The Exorcists have two extra scout companies to combat the high casualty rate of this process, which means that they are now canonically the largest SM chapter as well.

Because the BT got retconned, y'know.

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Orks please be after eldar

>>51421578
>>51421591
We have no idea what:
>the new formation benefits will be
or
>the ynnari special rule benefits will be
that could make them worth taking.

And on the stream they specifically said part of the draw of this book is that it buffs weaker underused units that the community have been asking to be buffed so they can use them competitively again.

>>51422488
Haven't kept up with anything. I left at the beginning of 5th edition. It's nice to see the player base hasn't changed.

Quick, how do I represent traitor guardsmen, vets with carapace and hotshots or bigger infantry squads in the platoon and they come back from the dead at 5+? Btw fuck LatD are expensive af, I need ethier 5 boxes of stormies or 20 of guardsmen and that's just infantry.

>>51422723
https://www.warhammer-community.com/

See Warhammer TV section.

>>51422718
Sorry, dude.

DIGITS FOR DRAIGO

>>51422758
>bigger infantry squads
Chaos conscripts/penal legion

>carapace and hot-shots
Traitor Tempestus Scions

>>51422758
If you're going for Khorne or Nurgle, I'd say the latter human wave tactics. If it's Tzeentch, the former.

Khorne would want the massive amount of death, and Nurgle fits well with the enduring theme. Tzeentch likes his AP 3 and typically has fewer numbers. Slaanesh could fit well with either.

>>51422758
tempustus scions covered in chaos runes and tattoos

Alright, here's my thoughts so far on this DooM list:

>4 Kastelan maniples of 3 robuts each
>ally in Alberec

Thoughts? Concerns?

>>51422758
>>51422775

He's way ahead of you lad, he literally mentions buying stormies in his post.

It depends whether you want to run a horde army or a more professional, specialised fighting force. There are examples of both abound in the fluff, like pretty much every chaos cult in every book ever of the former type and the Blood Pact in Gaunt's Ghosts for the more elite, serious, formidable human renegade army.

The answer is always the one that involves the least models to paint

>>51422857
This is a fucking dope idea if you get a transfer sheet or some fantasy khornate bits or even just go to town with a hobby knife on their carapace armour.

>>51421900
You can by legit copies of the epubs off the Black Library website. That's why they're epubs and not pdf scans in the first place. There's nothing wrong with using digital codexes in a GW shop.

>>51422758
Go for Khornate Scions.

The Blood God commands they shoot everything.

Everything.

Do it.

>>51422775
>>51422799
>>51422857
Yeah, forgot to say, they are Khornate. Also most of them were supposed to be ex-guards. I guess I'll go with stormies, cause 20 boxes of 10 is too much for me to paint. Gotta slowly buy the scions then. Guess I'll say they looted a munitorium world or something.

>>51422758
Easy way to make Nurgle Traitors is to mix a box of Zombies from fantasy into boxes of Cadians.

>>51422951
You can just say that they're traitor sturmtruppen, m8.

>>51422650
The human mind likes identifying and filling out patterns.

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>>51422951
personally I would replace the heads, the scion masks are a bit too iconically loyalist for me if that makes sense. they look cool tho. depending on what you have in the rest of your army, you could use a few cultist bits for head swaps, pic related head would look dope on a scion body.

>>51422977
But das gay, Im not a fan of gloryboys. Plus they are too indoctrinated in the Schola for so much of them falling to chaos. Also I already made a story for my warband, don't feel like changing it. Btw, Guard vets do get carapace so its pretty safe to say that they had it before turning, no?

>>51423022
Arent those snapfit?

>>51423025
Iirc, there have been one or two Chaos Commissars, and there are Chaos Sisters.

Only grenadier guard vets, but guard vets don't get hot shots.

>tfw gonna get a huge load of Imperial Guard in the mail today
Which variant should I build out of the Leman russ demo boxes?

>>51422951
Could also say that they fought some other loyalist guard scions or vets and snagged it. There's a lot of ways to justify them getting carapace.

Khornate scions should look sweet.

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>>51422538

>>51423049
I'll just fluff it somehow, I have some ideas.

I'm fucking lost here. Does the Beast Arises just end that fucking suddenly with the random arbite killing the body guard and walking away? What the fuck was that ending.

>>51423042
yeah, that's what a hobby saw is for.

also looking at the scion models again now, actually I'd probably replace the scion arms too. looks weird to have that head on a fully clothed body, so I would end up doing a lot of conversion work by cutting the arms off the scions at the shoulder and fenagling bare arms on via pinning. then I'd put a bunch of badass khornate tattoos on his biceps, kill notches on his hotshot, etc

>>51423076
refer to
>>51422637

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>>51422951
>>51423022
I'd agree with this. But it's probably better to just get head bits. There are a bunch of third part post apocalyptic heads that would work. I also think some of the FW HH heads would look good. Like the Sons of Horus one here.

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-SE/Sons-of-Horus-MKIV-Upgrade-Set-Heads

Going to be doing an Armageddon era campaign I've got blood angels and salamanders in my collection already so at 2k points should I go 5050 or lean more on one side? I'd ideally like to have vulkan he'stan in the list but anything could work

>>51423108
There were six times as many Salamanders as Blood Angels in the Third War for Armageddon if that matters to you.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Armageddon_Imperial_Forces

>>51423080
god damn it i need to tank a grumpy dump now

>>51423144
thanks for the spoilers

>>51423155
I mean the book is like a year and a half old

>>51419096

Red Paint Job is worthless. Drop it.

Not sure what Zagstruk is doing in there, since he's pretty awful. Honestly I can't see the Stormboyz doing much.

Drop the Klaw Nobz in the Tankbusta units. Trukkbustas are designed to be disposable. Tankbustas are also pretty poor these days following the grenade nerf. Of course if your group ignores that ruling, then they're still great.

If they don't though, I'd consider swapping them out for Mega-Nobz, which will give you some much needed heavy hitters.

The Dakkajet I'm neutral on. They're not great, but they're not bad either. Really it's a personal choice. If you want a flyer they're probably the best option.

>>51423099
those are pretty slick too. depending on how many traitor scions you have, you could do some cultist heads, some of those, etc.

in my CSM army, literally every model has different power armor bits from helmets to pauldrons, because they're meant to be have ragtag scavenged parts. no two dudes have the same helmet or armor setup, although some are just altered versions of the same helmet. I've got regular CSM parts, OOP CSM parts, chosen/raptor torsos and boots, various chaos-ified loyalist power armor bits, pieces of guitar wire, carved sprue, and scrapheap power packs, all kinds of bullshit everywhere and it aint even close to painted goddamn this has taken forever

>>51422345
Well, if I'm going for 1850, what should my starting point be? I don't want to run any infantry apart from maybe a few units of Pathfinders.

>>51423170
they're really long and I haven't gotten around to reading them, fuck you, it's not hard to press ctrl+s like this, fuck you

What would happen if a Lictor landed on a planet with a dormant Genestealer Cult?
Would they work together?
Would the cult see it as a threat to the Patriarch's supremacy?

>>51423140
Well that settles that

Wondering if I should bring hammernators in a lrr

>>51423254
Probably depends on a few things. If the Lictor is from the same Hive Fleet as the Patriarch I can see them working together - at the very least they might just ignore each other and do their own things and the Cult wouldn't pose any threat.

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>>51423076

Could someone post the formation that uses Khorne Berserkers and a Dreadclaw?
I seem to have forgotten the name and specifics.

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>>51423076

>>51423271
Wouldn't they have the exact same goals though? Infiltrate high society, gather intelligence about supplies, defenses, and infrastructure, as well as taking out key figures?

>>51423025
>Plus they are too indoctrinated in the Schola for so much of them falling to chaos.

If muhreens can fall to Chaos, I don't see why regular humans who grew up in an orphanage can't.

Astartes are supposed to be psychicly tested for loyalty by the librarius and hypo-indoctrinated to install loyalty, if that fails, a bunch of praying and drill abbots isn't going to do better.

>>51423252
No the first one is like 180 pages and barely even worth a read. If you're angry now just wait until you read it.

>>51423076
Why would you do that to such a good model...

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In the process of trying to fluff up my growing Kabal. Anyone have some cool lore or stories for their dudes?

>>51420654
Personally I'd like to see a new Old One Eye, a new Doom Of Malan'tai, and a new Deathleaper. Swarmlord can stay at home.

>>51423274
....Why do I dig this? It's actually really well painted.

>>51423342
I used to, but I forgot when I shelved my elves for some reason about 2 years ago.

>>51423356
You should unshelve the elves stories for me then brotha!

>>51423278
Fist of khorne

>>51423342
My Kabal of the Shattered Pelvis revolves around a female Archon (Archoness?) who is batshit obsessed with decorating her throne room with enemy combatants (in stasis, of course) at the immediate time of their realization that they just lost.
I just went through a break-up.

>>51423355
it could be better, the paint could be thinned more, the highlighting is sloppy, the right pauldron needs another thin coat of dark green (but it could just be washed to that shade, blech), the boots are a mess, the birds are largely ok

There's actually nothing impressive about this scheme, it's just really basic techniques executed in a mediocre manner.

That said it's better than most of the shit posted in here, and it's funny.

So it's pretty cool

>>51423342
this looks really cool

>>51423303
Similar but not identical.

Lictors are more instinctual and less overall strategically minded, they don't care about supplies and infrastructure but they do care about the genetic material of the dominant prey, concentrations of biomass, probably things like composition of the atmosphere and terrain.

Genestealers are playing a militaristic political game, Lictors are more like scientific surveyors or biological researchers probing for weaknesses and desirable targets.

>>51423372
I'm trying to remember, but I can't. I seem to remember it was a wych cult that was for some reason led by an Archon.
Possibly trying to fulfill my harem dreams.

>>51423384
Sorry for the breakup Anon. Good to vent such through the hobby though!

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>>51423278
It actually uses a motherfucking Kharybdis. Fucker is huge.

>>51423412
the kharybdis is stupid

>it's a drop pod!
>but it is actually a walker that crawls around after landing!

>>51423406
Thanks man! First attempt in a long while.
>>51423408
Maybe he had dirt on the leader of the wych cult! Or The domination fantasy that works too

>>51423432
>he thinks that's stupid

Which is the one that can fly around permanently and never disgorge its occupants?

>>51423454
both

>>51423432
What, really? That's not stupid that's fucking cool.

>>51423432
It's not a walker though, it's an assault drop pod that can fly.

Imagine putting that thing on a Flying Base, anon.

I think that's the Kharybdis I'm thinking of.

>>51422689

Do you? You're already willing to sacrifice them.

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>>51422720

>cant use wyches as a Dark Eldar wych cult
>have to use faggy Superfriends

>>51422387

Show me more of that model.

>>51423484
Because I don't particularily care about winning.

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>>51423483
Yeah both it and the Dreadclaw do that.

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>>51423512
The Dreadclaw can even be fitted on a flying base.

>>51423523

It's a shame they are forced to take possession and eat their dreadnaughts

>>51423523
>jump out of the butthole
>get gored by the spikes on the way down

>>51423529
You don't pod Helbrutes. If you want to deep strike them you take a Mayhem Pack and let them do it on their own.

>>51423499
Yeah I like the idea of a wych cult army a lot and was sad they are apparently bad. The dude from tabletop tactics spams reavers and calls it a cult! He seems pretty tourney intensive though.

>>51422720
Oh sweet, Eldar are getting a buff? About fucking time if you ask me, god knows we need one [s/]

>>51423546
The Claws are primarily boarding action assault craft. They're designed to attach and cut into the sides of spaceships.

>>51423584
Dark Eldar you humongous faggot.

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>>51422538
Contributing my Celestine and twins.

Yes the eyes look a bit googly and the feet look big, its the photo pls trust me ;_;

>>51423584
Not exactly. They're creating a new Eldar faction that uses models from the other factions.

>>51423590
That's dope as fuck got any play in with them yet? Or were you waiting till they were done?

>>51423590
Looks good. Nice job.

>>51421071
If I want to play Craftworlders, I'll play Craftworlders. If I want to play Dark Eldar, I'll play Dark Eldar. If I want to play some combination of both, I'll bring both. If I want to play some combination of both AND have them all be a different faction while still using similar weapons and vehicles for some reason, I'll play Corsairs.

I'm not entirely sure why they thought an entire new faction was needed, but I guess if I already have the models laying around I'll give it a shot. It can't make Incubi or Wyches any worse than they already are.

>>51422298
Is there any other models with the Slayer rule?

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>>51423603
I might play them tomorrow with some IG. So far I've heard she's as durable as her stat line implies.

>>51423631
>It can't make Incubi or Wyches any worse than they already are.

It'll make them better.

>>51423639
I always wondered if that's a zipper in the front of the Sisters of Battle corset.

>>51423631
I just saw a batrep of corairs for the first time and they seem like a fun force. Is it hard to make an army for them? Done anything of note with them recently?

>>51419700
This is literally a screen cap of a reddit post.

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>>51423650
I never thought of it as more than another random tube, similar to the one's on the side of their legs.

>>51423639
Hope she performs as well as she's painted then man! Kudos again.

>>51423662
I mean, if it was a zipper it would be incredibly easy to disrobe them.

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>>51423673
STOP

CELESTINE AND THE SISTERS ARE NOT FOR LEWD

Also they probably have real power armor under the corset.

>>51423680

[TRIGGERED]

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>>51423699
You do know that Sisters are not required to be celibate, right?

>>51423655
More than half the Corsairs entries don't have models, and the other half use almost exclusively existing plastic models with upgrade kits sold to make them look more unique. The implication is that you use your existing Eldar/Dark Eldar army to make up the difference. You could, if you wanted, run a Guardian Battlehost or Dark Eldar CAD and simply call it "Corsairs" and it would be 100% appropriate.

As for running them, I don't have much experience. Their Cloud Dancers are more expensive scatbikes that can also take Dark Lances and Splinter Cannons. I highly recommend both of those options. Also, their psyker is nice if you want to run an assault unit like Grotesques or Harlequin Troupes because the primaris of his psychic table is auto 6s on runs, charges, hit & runs, etc. Their Venoms get Scout and they have access to those neat jump walkers which are insane. For fluff, imagine EVE Online meets Pirates of the Caribbean in all the best ways, and in game terms, imagine Eldar and Dark Eldar merged into an entirely coherant and wacky balls to the wall aggressive force.

>>51423699
But I want to lewd the sisters

>>51423727
Why are you sexually attracted to cattle

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>>51423722
Empowering the human form with consensual missionary position is not lewd, and does not require quick disrobing
And that's if the sisters even have time to practice such an act. There are a lot of Heretics to be purged.
>>51423727
No

>>51423745
How did you know huge breasts are my favorite
>>51423746
But she asked me to

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>>51423745
Celestine is THICC

>>51423724
Damn that sounds fucking great. I have some dark eldar and harlequins may try those rules out sometime. Thanks for the nice write up anon!

>>51422473
Oh we're getting a gathering storm book and it is going to be glorious. Tau developing FTL travel faster than warp travel. A recent lore change was us being retconned away from using proto-warp drives to "slip" drives basically how Star Trek does it.

The other major plot point is the civil war.

Also there is a real possibility of us defending Ultramar or possibly depending on how the grand allliances go destroying it with whatever super faction we get lumped into. I find the the defending of it more likely.

Also the whole proto warp storm thing that the Ad Mech has stied up with their Heretek bullshit.

I think if any character has a chance of getting remodled it is Farsight, but if they go with three new characters then it could be anything. I doubt they will make O'kais or O'res'ka from DoW1. Even though I hope. A new Ethereal seems all but guranteed though and some sort of new commander since gotta have a battlesuit release.

Tau Empire Ascendance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_CP4SuoTU

GW should release a Gabriel Angelos promo model.
His new termie suit is the shit.

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>>51423769
I've heard some people say it's Tau, but I think it looks like AdMech.

>>51422473
O'Kais isn't an Ethereal, though.

>>51423789
A Dawn of war character set would be neat-o

Angelos, Macha, whoever else is in that series. Especially Macha

>>51423799
>looks like a psychic hood
>you can see the back of the terminator armor
>its tau or admech!

>>51423799
That image is Kaldor Draigo.

>>51423799
GIVE ME THEM DIGITS FOR DRAIGO

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>>51423817
Literally who

>>51423813
MOTHER
FUCKING
GORGUTZ

Man, a boxed Dawn of War commander trio would sell like crazy.

>>51423831
These digits?

>>51423832
you are either really new, or really old

draigo is matt ward's mary sue to end all sues, before they fired him

gw recently re-contracted matt ward to write some stuff

>>51423246
What formations are you using, if any.
Running a dawn blade contingent?

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>>51423832

>>51423799
That pic yes. The Tau book won't be next after the Biel Tan book. I think the Tau one might be one of the ones later in the year or maybe in the middle.

It all depends on when they plan to have 8th drop. Recent rumors and theories say the gathering storm will last all year and have a book involving every army in the plot and possibly a model for them. So if this is true then 8th is being pushed back.

Otherwise we only got about 4-6 books left before 8th could realistically appear in the middle of this year. So it all depends on what turns out to be true. I have no idea what to think on that matter either could seem likely from GW.

>>51423562
Mayhem packs can't be taken in a Warband.

>>51423768
If you want to make your opponent go absolutely nuts, here's what you do:

- Take the Cast of Players, giving them the shrouding Death Jester and a lvl2 Shadowseer with the Mask of Secrets. Take 12 clowns in it and give them all Caresses.

- Take a small Eldar CAD with 2 Jetseers.

- Take the Corsairs formation, which is 2 HQs and 1 Troop. Make the Corsair Prince a lvl1 psyker and make the Void Dreamer lvl3.Give the Prince a bike and the Armor of Misery and give them both Shadowfields.

- Roll your Prince on Divination for the primaris and your Shadowseer on Phantasmancy also for the Primaris. Roll the Farseers on Runes of Fate for Fortune and, if you get it, begin rolling on Telepathy for the primaris.

- Deploy the whole damn shootin' match in a single blob and park your Corsair HQs in the front on either side to make sure they're soaking the initial damage with their 2+ invul. Use your bikes to daisy chain long movements for the unit and cast Veil of Tears to keep from being shot. VoT and Fortune are absolutely necessary.

- Once in 12" of something meaty, say, a death star, blow your psychic load on Fortune, Prescience, and that Corsairs power that gives you max movement. You'll get the charge, you'll get a 2+ rerollable invul in close combat, and your clowns will be punching things with rerolls to hit, which with the Caress, means MASSIVE damage.

- If what you're fighting survives, H&R 18" away and do it again.

>>51423832
>>51423799

Taufags and Mechanicushits get out

>>51423876
take the mayhem pack as a separate formation outside of the decurion

>>51423886

You don't get it. I can't use a mayhem pack to fill a slot in my Warband.

>>51423881
For the record I am a Taufag and clearly think it's a space marine of some kind.

>>51422473
Bruh, one thing is going to happen.
Tau fmc.
I'm betting on a xv86 riptide where that gives it fmc and a preset weapons loadout.
XV164? XV1046?

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>>51423854
I heard of him. sounds gay. Can't wait for him to kill Celestine and use her blood as a protective paint.

>>51423866
He looks old and tired like the Grail Knight from Indiana Jones.

>>51423902
Why are you taking a warband at all? Did you get tricked by the lure of power via the Legion rules and Decruions into taking a bunch of tax units? Just like the corrupting promises of the dark gods, that way lies only ruin and failure...

it's not to late to return the the Emperor's love and guidance

>>51423920
given Ward's discomfort with women it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if he were to try something like that

>>51423879
Holy shit that sounds like a pain in someones ass.I can practically hear tense music playing on the approche lol The H&R tactics sound really really fun.

Wait, Matt "Flufficide" Ward actually got fired?

>>51423902
So? You want those slots for Havocs.

>>51423936
The Chaos Warband is really good. ObSec everything is very strong.