/swg/ - Star Wars General - Jedha Edition

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the bf

>>51398728
Boring force-user?

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>>51398835
do NOT bully Kylo

>>51398835
That statement is redundant

>>51398728
*my bf

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>>51398911
get away from my bf you fucking slut

>>51398906
you watch your mouth, Force users are cute

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>>51399030
He's so cute when he's angry lol

What the fuck is going on in here

I know this thread is mainly for game stuff, but just figured I would ask. Any of the Star Wars comics worth reading?

>>51399079
Autism!

>>51399030
>>51399055
MORE LIKE KYLO NO-FRIENDS

>>51399090
Just like any others, you've got good and bad Star Wars comics.

Marvel's stuff they've put out since they got the license back at the end of 2014 has mostly been solid, with even the worst being simply kinda there and not actively stupid like some of their mainline stuff has been in the same time period.

>>51399129
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>51399079
A new, mutated form of Roshposting. Renposting. Legends Ben > nuBen.

>>51399090
The X-Wing series
Tag and Bink
Star Wars Tales
Tales of the Jedi
Knights of the Old Republic
The nucanon Lando comic

If you like really silly shit, the old Marvel comics were also fun. I especially enjoyed Droids.

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>>51399129
kylo is a good host

>>51399090
Nucanon or Legends? For nu, Lando and Son of Dathomir, Star Wars and Darth Vader if you feel generous.
Legends? Hoo boy, where do I start.
>Knights of the Old Republic
>Legacy vol 1 (pretty divisive), vol 2 (underrated)
>Crimson Empire (vol 1 mainly)
>Darth Maul (Maul murdering people for five issues)
>Thrawn Trilogy
>Clone Wars/Republic comics (not all of them though)
>Agent of the Empire (what if notJames Bond was in ISB)
And more

>>51399166
Kylo is cute.

Is there a way to make using slughtrowers not absolute trash in EotE? I really like the idea of using one, but they're so unmitigatably bad, as far as I can see, and I can't find any attachments that really improve on them.

>>51399345
>Verpine heavy shatter rifle
>trash

Anyone want to help a newbie EoTE GM learn the ropes? Got room for one or two more players

>>51399417
When?

>>51399392
What book is that from? I should've also included "not prohibitively expensive," if that's relevant.

>>51399446
Friday evenings EST

>>51399345
Add specialized ammo. Depleted uranium rounds, armor piercing rounds, beanbags/rubber bullets, etc.

>>51399345
It's Star Wars. Blasters are pistol/rifle sized particle accelerators that blow holes in shit and punch through personel armor with relative ease, all while needing very little in the way of logistics support. And you want a fucking bullet-tosser?

>>51399446
>What book is that from?
Strongholds of Resistance

>not prohibitively expensive
That's out of the window then. Have you considered the Model 38 Sharpshooter's rifle from Enter the Unknown?

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>>51399490
Sometimes, Ivan wishes to use glorious old rifle of Sergei Mosin design. Homebrew special snowflake bullet is also not totally out of questioning.

>>51399490
I mean, there are in-canon examples of slughtrower rifles cleaning house (can't remember what the book was called, it's the one with Luke busting out the mathematician). I get that realistically blasters should be better, but Star Wars isn't really about realism (or internal consistency for that matter).

>>51399491
Even that's a little pricey, I guess I'll just go with the standard slughtrower rifle and learn to deal with it.

>>51399475
Do you have an email/skype I can get a hold of you at?

>>51399553
>Do you have an email/skype I can get a hold of you at?
Here you go: issac.lindenburg

>>51399540
Rifle was fine. Rifle is fine. Rifle will always be fine.

>>51399553
>Even that's a little pricey
If you've got some points in mechanics, parts for a slugthrower rifle are pretty easy to come across and only cost 125 credits and a working day to smash together. If you get really lucky on a roll you could even get the blast quality.

>>51399540
>>51399582
Laser too flashy, shootings of give away location and ruining Stormtrooper armour for stealing.

With rifle, only small hole, can put tape over top and is of good as new.

>>51399565
Shot you a message, I think

>>51399540
>>51399582
>>51399624
Great. Now i got a mental picture of Verpine version of Sergei Mosin cranking out affordable Verp Shatter Nuggets. Chambers anything the size of 7.62x54mm and smaller

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>>51399656
Whoops, forgot to mention that was my skype name and not an email

>>51399730
>Chambers anything
Fixed, desu.

>>51399489
I would imagine you could find exotic ammunition to actually out perform blasters in many cases.

Stuff like a phrik, cased hyper matter, kaiber flake shrapnel etc.

I think blasters are just much more common because of cost/logistic limitations. A well paid, gun nut bounty hunter doesn't have those problems.

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Is it just me, or does the low-effort posting go up considerably every weekday night and drop off every weekend?

It's weird.

>>51399753
Is your picture an Asian person?

>>51399845
>low-effort posting
Are you talking about renposting or /k/posting?

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>>51399866
Yup, that's me

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>>51399873
Renposting, /k/posting, anime-reaction-image-one-word-reply-posting...

The works.


Also, how should a party armed only with blaster weapons fight a Sith Inquisitor armed with a lightsaber, the Force, and actual training?

They have limited cash and no grenades.

>>51400058
>how should a party armed only with blaster weapons fight a Sith Inquisitor armed with a lightsaber, the Force, and actual training?
A continued strategy of tactical withdrawal.

>>51400058
Hey, /k/ posting isn't the worst thing ever.

Also, they could try running him over?

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>>51400058
>Complaining about /k/posting
>/k/posting in response to a question about guns
>In a thread about a franchise that focuses on war
>Centered around films that used fucktons of milsurp
cyka

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>>51400114
That's what I figured. They might try flanking him or shooting him with a ship-mounted weapon.

Canonically, can a lightsaber parry a turbolaser shot?

If so, what effect would it have on the wielder?

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>>51400150
>>51400143

Got no objection to posting weird or interesting weapons that could actually see use in a SW game.

Got some objections to posting more Mosin-wanking.

>>51399090
>>51399162
Seconding Tales of the Jedi for Legends stuff. Don't know enough of the other old comics to make any other recommendations.

For nu-canon, I really enjoyed the Darth Vader series. The main "Star Wars" series is fine. Of the mini-series I've read, I'd rank Lando as the top, followed by Leia, then Chewbacca. Han Solo just arrived today, but I haven't had a chance to read it yet.

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>>51400207
Is only silly joke, tovarich. Besides, the Lee-Enfield series of rifles is sexier anyway.

>>51400058
Don't fight fair. If there's something explosive, shoot it. If not, get some distance and take good cover.

Abuse flanking attacks, volume of fire, and whatever weapon qualities you got. Knockdown and Entangle are your friends here.

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>>51400159
Tie Advanced is such an ugly ship absolutely putrid. Darth Vader deserved better to be honest. How sad!

>>51400159
A lightsabers ability to deflect is based on the power of the containment field.

Pretty sure even heavy lasers would fuck up a saber. A turbo laser would leave a 10m hole where the saber used to be.

>>51400410
We have examples in both Legends and canon of lightsabers deflecting shots from the main weapons of AT-ATs and shuttles. The shots tend to have a lot of kinetic force that can knock a person off their feet if not ready, or shove them back if they are, but they can be stopped.

Doesn't really make sense based on relative size of bolt to saber, but then again, scale has always been an issue for Star Wars.

>>51400410

While I don't know about anon's first assertion, I DO know that lightsabers don't save your sorry ass from atmospheric effects, like the ambient heating from a few hundred terajoules of hate burning through the atmosphere in your direction. Even on a close pass, a turbolaser blast should reduce an unarmored human to a greasy splorch on the steaming pavement.

Did Palps kill all the jedi so they wouldn't delfect the death star laser with their lightsabers?

>>51400820
Yes.

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>>51400392
I don't know, I kind of like it. It's very coffin-like, it's got a profile that suggests it's a leader's ship - especially while flanked by TIEs - and it looks sturdier too.

>>51400565
>>51400410
So with the power of the Force and a good wide stance, there's a chance? Good to know.

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If Wedge Antilles were a real person, what kind of car would he drive?

>>51401256
what kind of car does his actor drive?

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Fear the reaper

>>51401291
What game is that from?

>>51401357
Galaxy of Heroes

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>>51401291
>TIE Reaper
Does Kylo Ren have a new ride?

Which classes and force affinity combinations create good stories in Star Wars: The Old Republic? I've heard that the imperial agent's story is awesome regardless of you morality and that the Sith Marauder is good if you go light side. Are there other solid options?

>>51401431
It was in R1, alongside the Striker.

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>>51388800

GM of the guy who built 30 lightsabers until he got one he liked and now want to play some sort of minmaxed Gambler build...

Quit playing with this guy.

Just... don't invite him back. And if he complains, don't let him. He doesn't have a right to your time. Go find someone else. Star Wars is a pretty big media touchstone. You'll be able to find some noob out there, someone who's never played a tabletop game, and train them to be a great player.

Anyone have a deck plan for the YT-1000?

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>>51401664
Best I could find.

Why would you use the ugliest YT though

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>>51399490
Not to mention they have light demolition uses too.

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>>51401664

>>51401682
I need something old and outdated for my campaign that could have been used for low-profile mission during the Clone Wars
>>51401718
Thanks anon

>>51401749
Use the G9 rigger. It's abolute trash. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJR9WNQvRCg
>videos this low quality are allowed on youtube

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>>51399490
REMOVE EMPIRE

DRESSEL STRONK

>>51401827
I use Dressellians on my force arena rebel teams. they're bros

I see that the viewing guide for clone wars stops after season 5. Am I right to assume that no one bothered to update it because "just watch all of s6"?

>>51402533
The Fives ark is brilliant, the Banking Clan episodes are also very good, there are 2 Jar Jar episodes of basically no plot relevance that can be skipped entirely and the last Yoda ark is at least fairly important for world building purposes.

>>51402567
The Jar Jar episodes are at least worth watching because you get to see Mace Windu actually do something for once and the end of the Nightsisters witch bitch

>>51402567
>>51402533

Pretty much no arc in Season 6 is bad. The Jar Jar arc actually does something remarkable - it manages to make him funny by pairing him with a good straight man. It also introduces another Force tradition, the Dagoyan Masters, who although "light side" like Jedi, are total pacifists and actually really dislike the Jedi.

>>51402567
>>51402594
>>51402615
Okay then, thanks for the advice. I have been enjoying the view with the viewing guide a lot more than my initial viewing of the early seasons because it cuts it all down to the gold and not the stupid trash that is all between and in the movie.

>>51401291
Why couldn't that be the next Imperial ship in X-wing instead of the Upsilon?

>>51403002

[Tech][Tech][Crew][Crew]

Also it has like 5 minutes of screen time FFG probably didn't know about. Wave XII confirmed.

If there a way to increase the max hard points on a vehicle?

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Goddamnit is there a single youtube session where the players are not joking and fucking around instead of roleplaying seriously in character. How the fuck am I supposed to get a feel for the game and its mechanics when the players are wasting time fucking around?

>>51403506

RAW, I don't believe so. As a GM, I would theoretically be okay with people adding more hard points by removing already-existing features of the ship, using the existing attachments as a guideline.

For instance, you might be able to swap out the sublight engines with smaller, weaker ones to gain yourself a hard point at the expense of Speed, or you might be able to remove your shield generator in exchange for a hard point.

>>51403506
>>51403680
Rigger (Stay on Targer) has some talents that increase vehicle HP, and doing complete overhauls to the ship that are bloody expensive.

>>51403664
>How the fuck am I supposed to get a feel for the game and its mechanics
Get some friends and play the beginner box adventure?

>>51403664
Are you the same sperg that was throwing a tempter tantrum about people telling jokes in the other thread?
Because if you are, fuck off, little nigger.

>>51403710
He was here two threads ago and was being entitled. Ignore him.

>>51403680
I dream of doing dirty things to a TIE/LN as a rigger, but I look at that 0 HP and I cry.

>>51403701
Where? I'm looking at the rigger tree and I can't seem to find the talent. Are you sure you're not thinking of technician:modder? That only works on items, not vehicles.

>>51403710
Haven't bought anything yet. I want to see a session done first to see whether I would want to gm it. In order to get my friends to play I would have to buy everything and copy pages for them. I don't want to buy something I won't like.

>>51403745

Man I dunno, the TIE/LN is so barebones. I can't even imagine what you would do to it other than basically convert it into an Ugly.

>>51403728
>>51403740
What the fuck are you talking about? This is my first time here I am from a Shadowrun background.

>>51403773
Oversized external weapons mount.

>>51403664
Who the fuck plays an RPG without a healthy amount of fucking around and joking? Do you not like your friends?

>>51401827
ball sack for a head

>>51403664
I'm curious, if you introduce a Bothan with info for the party, do they *not* make a joke about how many Bothans died for it? If they make a deal, do they not joke about altering it further? Your games sound kinda intense for my tastes, I like to let my Paladin shout out a line from Manowar or my Monk to say they want no trouble.

>>51403799
When I am a GM I don't take kindly to others interrupting my narratives with silly jokes and dilly dallying. My stories are serious and well crafted. Not some quippy nonsense that Marvel spews out.

>>51403773
Not to mention making it so any alterations to the base design have to be made at the factory probably suits Rath Seinar's drug needs just fine.

>>51403832
Alls I want is to see is how a combat encounter takes place without wasting an hour of my life listening to the players joke about nonsense.

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>>51403855
You can have a serious story and also not be a fucking wet blanket.

>>51403893
Why don't you just read the book? It has plenty of examples.

>>51403940
How about you do you and I likewise kid

>>51403957
To be fair, watching and listening to something isn't quite the same as reading something.

>>51403997
Maybe if you luck score wasn't so bad you wouldn't keep responding to bait.

>>51403987
This I just want see how the players and GM interact together when using advantages and threats. I am not used to games with such a open ended system.

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>>51403664
We have seen this bait before.

>>51369029
And it was shit then.

>>51403710
>>51403728
>>51403799
>>51403832

Don't be fooled by anon.
>>51403777

>>51404044
>literal autism

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>>51404070
That's the best you got?

That's pretty pathetic.

Go post on /v/ or something, where your talents will be appreciated.
Anyway, what the fuck kind of face is under this helmet? is there a video screen? A ring of eyes?

>>51404133
What is google dumbass?

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>>51404157
You know, I should have figured that there's an overly detailed canonical explanation out there. This is Star Wars, after all.

For the curious, they're cybernetically augmented gang members. The central disc is a sensor.

>>51404133
Man, Target must have cut a hell of a marketing deal with Disney.

>>51404217
C'mon it was probably like two troopers.

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>>51404226
Better than the deal Wal-Mart got. R2-Discounts was never going to be a major character.

>>51404217
Sorry for calling you a dumbass my wife just left me

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Can I make npcs and custom vehicles with OggDude's character generator or is that a different program?

>>51404270
I can see why.

>>51404275
Yep, though I prefer to make 'em straight from scratch.

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>>51404253
>"Sir, the Jawas sold the droid to a farmer down the road yesterday. Should we head there immediately?"
>"Nah, fuck it, the entire garrison is deployed. Those droids aren't going to just walk off on their own. Send everyone."

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>>51404270
>Sorry for calling you a dumbass my wife just left me

It's OK, this is /tg/

When you guys roleplay do you actually speak your character's lines or cop out by saying my character preyt

>>51404414
I mainly talk in character, but I'll sometimes 'cop out' by just saying the rough outline when I cannae think of what to say.

>>51404414
I do either, depending on the situation. If it feels like an appropriate circumstance to have a conversation I'll stay in character, but if it's just "I tell the guy to come over here" then nothing is really lost.

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I know it depends on the campaign but is there any skills that are almost always great and are there any skills that seem underpowered unless the GM goes out of his way to craft scenarios to make them useful?

>>51403987
This is a good point.

>>51404568
Ranged (light) is useful as it covers a wide range of blasters, grenades and thrown weapons. Perception is useful, being the system's version of spot.

Worst skill i think is Astrologation and that's mostly my fault as a GM, because I move the party along at the speed of plot and it can be somewhat negated with an investment in a ship mod.

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SO quick question:

My AoR group is on a mission to find a way to get to Byss. so far they have gone to Cato Nemoidia to talk to an ex-CIS commander who participated in the 2nd battle for Coruscant to see if she happened across it. She had, but with Stormtroopers on their heels they forgot to get a copy from her, luckily one of the PC's was able to at least remember Byss's coordinates but none of the connecting jump coordinates.

So they figure they might be able to go to one of the major space-faring civilizations and hope that 1: they have been keeping their own star charts independently from everyone else, and 2: that those charts are complete enough to include Byss, and 3: that the Empire hasn't tampered with said charts. Certainly Empress Teta and Kashyyyk could be potential options, they figured on Corellia and Duro; certainly they seem like valid options both are major space-faring societies, so I gotta know:

In EU or New Cannon, Did the Corellians and/or Duros have their own star charts? or would those just be the Old Republic/Imperial star charts?

Also, after reading Suns of Fortune, I'm curious if the data they are looking for wouldn't be in the Great Archives on Drall; would this kind of information be there? Or is the entire Corellian Sector just one big 'ol dead end? I have no problem with that mind you, I'm just curious.

>>51404643
Ultimately it's up to the GM.

I would have the party visit both the Corellian system and and the Duros system having to pick up pieces from the various locales and assemble the map themselves.

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>>51404643
They might have really ancient navigational charts, pre-Empire or even pre-Republic. Byss' star isn't going anywhere, after all.

Time to raid an ancient temple.

>>51404643
The Great Archives might not be a bad idea. I certainly like it.

>>51404643
The biggest issue is the sheer unpredictability of stellar drift and other moving obstacles in the deep core. They absolutely NEED up to date info to make a working jump. And the Empire or MAYBE the BoSS is the only place to get it. (And if the theft is detected an ambush WILL be waiting.)

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>>51405112
Unpredictable to you humans, maybe. But to a QUORVIAN ASTROPLOTTER PRIME it's second nature. Why, they're practically born to do it.

Unfortunately, the only Quorvian Astroplotter Prime you know of resides in seclusion on the sludge moon of YOMP. He will tell you his secrets if you bring him QUORVIAN FIRE-GIN.

Sadly, the last fire-gin distillery was destroyed during the Clone Wars. There is a collector who will sell you a bottle, but only for the almost-as-rare VITUPERIAN BRANDY, special edition, which can only be found in the VAULTS OF SONKAR, the key to which is held by the MONKS OF TIME AND DISTANCE, who will happily trade it for anyone able to answer their COSMIC RIDDLE, the answer to which is known by the RIDDLE-THIEF RAZASITARIAN THE CORPULENT, who covets secrets, riddles, and TRULY VAST QUANTITIES OF PUDDING.

So really, what you need is pudding.

I'm brand new to the FGG system (FAD), so I was hoping for some advice on a character design. His central philosophy is that it is best to act swiftly and decisively. This carries over into combat, which he believes should be ended as efficiently as possible. What's the best career/style to reflect this? I was thinking either Shien Expert or Shii-Cho Knight.

>>51405272
For swift and decisive, Ataru Striker is a good way to go. With moves like Hawk-bat swoop giving you additional mobility and synergizing with Saber Swarm to deal huge single target damage, you will be the swiftest and the most decisive.

>>51405263
I giggled at this, seems fun.

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>>51405451
It's a good way to generate plot ideas.

The PCs will, of course, kidnap the astroplotter, drop the gin, steal the wrong brandy, piss off the monks, forget the answer to the riddle, and/or accidentally poison the riddle-thief.

All part of the story.

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>>51405263
Man, fuck going to Byss, give me that fire-gin and brandy, sounds rad as hell.

>>51405381
I thought about it, but Ataru seems a little too flashy for what I'm trying to make.

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Are there any Imperial ships that could be equivalent to a WW2 destroyer?

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>>51405594
Most of my games end up with the players going "Wait, six sessions ago we set off to steal a starship. We are now pretending to be accountants to infiltrate a secret organization of sentient gourds, in order to overthrow their leader and steal his hat, because we need his hat to pay off our gambling debts, debts we only got because...."
"Wait..."
"How the FUCK did we end up here?"

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What do you folks think about an ex-Jedi enforcer/wandering swordsman as an antagonist in an edge of the empire. I'd imagine a Jedi who went to the Hutts for protection after O66 and started down a dark path while working as an enforcer for them. His association with the Hutts and his tendency kill force users in duels keep the Inquisitors off him.

>>51405690
Arquitens Light-Cruiser

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Imperial_light_cruiser

>>51404643
What's the bunny rabbit in the middle there?
Is that the Jazz Jackrabbit race from the Marvel comic?

>>51405850
That's still a mini-carrier.
Carrack might be a bit too heavy, but its what came to mind.

>>51405740
Jeez man, even Rube Goldberg would be telling you to streamline your adventures!

>>51405690
Raider Corvette

>>51405993
>What's the bunny rabbit in the middle there?
I think it's the artist's interpretation of a Drall, even though Drall are 3-foot-tall guinea pigs, not rabbits.

>>51401210

Two seater TIES still seem awful to me. I cannot see the space being taken up being worth it, and if you are holding your TIE steady so your rear gunner can shoot, you are doing TIEs wrong.

>>51406001
There is nearly nothing in SW that can't double as a carrier in at least SOME degree thanks to how easy itnis to dock fighters.

>>51405690

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/DP20_frigate

Hey /tg/

I've been out of the X-Wing loop for a month or two, and I was just starting before (away for the winter). Now I'm getting back in and I got a new Hound's Tooth I want to try out but I'm still not quite used to Large Ships - I just did a few matches with a Firespray before.

Anyone have any advice on good ways to run this big guy, or what to pair him with? Apart from the Hounds Tooth I have a HWK, a Firespray and Y-Wings and Headhunters, plus a Star Viper I got as a present I haven't really looked at yet.

>>51406167
Oh, yeah. That works pretty damn well.

>>51406143
>holding your TIE steady
I don't think that'd be an issue, neither the guns on the Falcon or Fin and Poe needed to worry about steadying. I figure there's got to be some level of auto stabilization going on.

Has anyone statted the Dark Trooper phases and spinoffs and/or Death Troopers, both the zombies and the new-canon Jin-Roh fuckers?

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>>51398660
Is it just me, or would the galaxy be better off if all force users were deported to planets labeled "jedi", "sith", and "grey", had all FTL capable craft destroyed so they were stranded, and destroyed all sources on education of the force so no force users born later could train themselves?

The force seems to be the mother of all conflict in Star Wars, not peace. The Jedi and Sith are always starting shit.

>>51404133
I've actually been using Guavians a bit in my current campaign - in so far as my party is concerned, it goes a bit like this:

Guavians pick folks up, give 'em medical treatment, and then put them in functionally indentured servitude to pay off the costs. Since 'being in a criminal gang' is a high-risk, high-injury chance kinda job, this has a tendency to cause a slight positive feedback effect. Those faceplates are their actual faces insofar as they are concerned. The comm ring connects straight to a neural interface.

>>51406336
Isn't the Force completely tied to all living beings, save for those who are basically holes in the force and the YV fuckers?

Besides, people have started wars without the Force - see the Rakatans and the YV.

>>51406367
Those are two freak instances separated by TENS OF THOUSANDS of years. Meanwhile the fucking force religions seem to be behind fucking everything. The galaxy is better off without them, they're just trouble.

>>51406400
Don't forget Ssi-ruu raids, which you can probably say are Force related, since they lack the Force and rip out your soul to power their tech.

Mandalore conflicts weren't Force related, weren't they?

>>51406336
>The force seems to be the mother of all conflict in Star Wars, not peace. The Jedi and Sith are always starting shit.
It's not the Force. It's people doing stupid shit because they are high on power.
Doesn't matter if you are powertripping on money, violence or the ability to feed your hot gf by levitating fruit right into her fucking face.

>>51406297
We are not totally sure if the non zombie Death Troopers should be top tier minions or mid tier rivals, people have made stats for both. I am pretty sure there are fan stats for phase one, phase three and phase 0/nucanon phase2 (seriously WHY did they make those into phase2?)

>>51406433
>Don't forget Ssi-ruu raids, which you can probably say are Force related, since they lack the Force and rip out your soul to power their tech.
Man. I need some sleep. I read that as Snu-Snu raids and the power to rip out their teeth with the Force. Though that last one would be terrifying.

>>51406447
There was this conceptart of a person with their frontal cortex removed. Rumors were that the Death Troopers were supposed to be lobotomized cyborgs, but that was apparently too dark.

>>51406470
There are lobotomized people walking around on Jedha, they recanonized Dr Evanzan's experiments.

>>51406447
>you will never play a campaign where you're rebels breaking out of a Star Destroyer while Death Troopers (the undead) and Death Troopers (the living elite sent to sterilize any trace of the infected) are ripping apart the decks

>>51406470
Funny enough, that's one of the Dark Trooper spinoffs/projects, iirc - Dark Troopers were clones and then vets augmented, but iirc as time went on they had to lobotomize them due to PTSD/trauma from the augs.

>>51406336

I'm onto you Kreia

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>>51406297
Similar, did anyone ever stat the various Rebel armors, like the ASI Commandos, or would they just basically be refluffed Stormtrooper armor?

>>51406607
That looks like a really big disruptor there.

>>51405690
Seconding >>51406048
The Raider is even roughly the length of a WWII destroyer.

>>51406622
I always thought it was basically the Mass Effect Revenant, myself.

>>51400058
Why the retarded side-along cockpit when it already has a centered cockpit? Why the fuck would a pilot want to be forced to remember that all of his ship is on the left and guess at maneuvering it?

>>51401210
>deuterium cells
>that can be recharged by the solar panels
>somehow. magically.
Raith Sienar, you magnificent bastard, you've done it again!

>>51406725
I don't think they charge the deuterium cells, they just provide auxiliary power.

>>51406192

There's not a lot of them out there because in general the Empire doesn't go for combined arms in that way; they mostly just field Star Destroyers and then fighter screens, because their doctrine is based around asymmetrical shock and awe warfare.

Which actually makes it really easy to portray an Imperial tactical genius, because you can just... have him use combined arms! The DP20 will /tear up/ fighter wings.

>>51406749
>the average armada player would be thrawn-level genius

>>51406746
Says it right on the image.

I was thinking about dming an rpg style space game so my mind went to this. Been dming dnd for a year what do i need to dm this. I dont understand the whole EotE/AoR/FaD thing. Are they expansions or different games entirely?

>>51406901
they are just options for different types of adventures
EotE is for scum and villainy, bounty hunters smugglers, etc. it has a focus on han solo style adventures
AoR is for straight up rebels who want a war story
FaD is for when you want a focus on jedi and the force
all of them are completely interchangeable, and you can easily combine more than one kind into an adventure

if you want a EotE feel, watch the death star and tatooine parts of episode IV, the han solo parts of V, and the tatooine part of VI
if you want an AoR feel, watch the opening and climax of Episode IV, the hoth parts of V, and the endor parts of VI
if you want an FaD inspiration, watch the dagobah parts of V, and the death star part of VI

>>51406940
thanks man, I'll go with EotE

>>51406892
Where? I am on a phone, it's a bitch to track it down, I only saw "pre-charged"

>>51406956
EotE is probably easiest to go with

I want to work a Holocron made by Dooku into my next game somehow.

what should my first purchas for armada be after i get the core set?
i was planning on going rebels

>>51406433
>Mandalore conflicts weren't Force related, weren't they?
The Sith were behind all of them.

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What Stats Would I give General Grievous?

>>51407754
>if you end the turn engaged with general grievous you die

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>>51407754
I'm doing a bit in our Age Of Rebellion Game where he's been brought back to life as an assassin for the Empire; unofficially of coarse, Star killer Style

>>51407754
Hmmm...

A metric fuckton of defense plus beefy Parry & Reflect skills, Lightsabers count as having Linked 3. 4 Automatic failures to leadership tests when fighting Jedi.

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>>51407777
>Automatic failures to leadership tests when fighting Jedi

How so?

Also Checked

>>51407777
>quads
he can easily fight 5 jedi at once, so he is pretty deadly

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>>51407797

He also had some gnarly backup

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>>51407754
As an aspiring duelist, and given how he fights, zero weapon skill and zero intelligence.

>>51405993
>>51406077

>Not knowing about the pint-sized lagomorphs

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Max_(bunny)

I want to run Prince Xizor, but I have no clue how to do it viable.

Anyone have ideas?

>>51407809
magnaguards were pretty rad

Is any of the stuff introduced in the vidya canon in the tabletop, at all?

>>51408994
only the movies, the recent comics, TCW, and rebels are canon

although technical data is rarely contradicted

>>51408770
Do you mean run him as a foe or make him as a character?

>>51409067
you forgot all the mobile games. Those are considered canon too

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>>51408075
Don't forget the Lepi!

>>51404275
>Stormtroopers aren't shown deploying the folding stock on the sten
>must only be a handgrip, then
Goddamn, why does this trigger me so much REEEEEEEEE

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>>51409352
It could be worse.

>>51408770
VI, Virago, FCS, glitterstim. PS9 repositioning is nice and FCS gives you action efficiency you sorely lack. Fly him with a couple G-1s or Ys plus a Z or two.

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>>51408046
Seriously, the amount of retarded bullshit grievous does in the movie/show is well, retarded. This man does not know how to fight, but he doesn't even know how to use his arms.

>>51408994
>Canon in the tabletop

FFG draws pretty heavily from both legends and nucanon, and started before nucanon existed. What is in or out in your game matters much more on your personal preferences and the preferences of your GM

>>51405993
>>51406077
>>51408075
Your all wrong its a Kushiban sentient lagomorphs from planet Kushibah. One of them was Anakin Solo's master in legends.

>>51406367
The Rakatan's hyperdrives were fueled by the darkside of the force.

>>51409228
Not all the mobile games. Just Uprising and Commander.

>>51409361
That wouldn't look that bad, if you got rid of the very front hinged bit, or made it a bipod.

>>51409414

Jedi fight well when they can predict what the opponent can do. If he doesn't know what he is doing, nor can the Jedi.

>>51404044
sauce

What are the best/most official deck plans for a Gozanti? My party stole one and I figured I could show them what they're working with.

>>51410628
There are none.

>>51407743
>Implying the Mandos cared
>Implying the Mandos didn't just want an excuse to start a war for fun

>>51408075
>Simon the Killer Ewok isn't canon
REEEEEEEEE

Why would Han and Leia name their kid after someone Leia never met and Han only knew for one hyperspace jump?

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>>51411052
>We will never have a nucanon cartoon about Tag, Bink, Simon, Skippy, Kettch, Max, and Jaxxon teaming up to fight Trioculus

>>51401431
>>51401471
He was making a joke about Kylo being an Edgelord like Reaper.
>>51401291
Oh darn beat me to it with an even better image. https://swgoh.gg/units/ships/tie-reaper/

>>51411078
Luke asked them too if they wanted him to be a God-Father

>>51411152
That's a pretty dickish condition for a potential god-father to demand.

>>51411078
It's more that leia is naming him after one of her father's best friends, and han for the man who gave up his life to let him escape, AND was the only reason he and leia ever met

>>51411259
Her father's best friend was Obi-Wan Kenobi not some old crazy hermit named Ben.

>>51411259
>>51411433
>implying her father's best friend wasn't Yoda, who he personally helped escape from order 66

>>51411433
I mean Leia clearly recognizes the name "Ben Kenobi" in the Death Star

>>51411259
It's probably more like the writers wanted to reference Obi-Wan but didn't think it through. "Ben" would have been a far more fitting name to give to Luke's kid.

>>51411489
Luke doesn't have any kids and his waifu isn't real.

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>>51411522
>his waifu isn't real
His first waifu has been real since 1977, anon. And I'm referring to "Luke's kid" as a hypothetical scenario. I'm arguing that if the writers wanted to use the "Ben" name, they should have done so by writing him as a son of Luke and giving Kylo a different birth name.

>>51411563
I'm just tryin' to get a rise outa you, senpai.

>Reading Black fleet Crisis for the first time. Get to Lando on the Qella ship

Why does he always get the best side plots.

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>>51411585
Is this the rise you wanted? I was always more of a Chie man myself.

>reading FaD
>multiple Motivations involve propping up the Empire or destroying the Rebellion

What the fuck?

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>>51411870
got to throw a bone to them darkside edgelords.

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>>51411736
I always knew you were a man of taste.

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>>51411736
>>51411992
Chie a meat eating shit

So in Legends, did any material go into what a clusterfuck the fall of the Empire was like? Even with Sheev dead, that still leaves a ton of Star Destroyers and an entire galaxy-spanning government to defeat/convert. I can't imagine that was quick or painless.

>>51412140
Nope it wasn't. A bunch of Imperial admirals with SSDs became warlords who warred amongst themselves and the fledgling New Republic

>>51412140
Yes, most of the 80's and 90's EU.
The Thrawn Trilogy, the X-Wing books, Courtship of Princess Leia, Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor, Dark Empire, Crimson Empire, the Marvel Star Wars comics, and more all deal with the breakdown of the Imperial government, the rise of warlords, the formation of the New Republic, and the New Republic's attempts to unite the Galaxy. In Legends the fall of the Empire and the Rise of the New Republic continued for several years after the Battle of Endor.
Hell, the Hand of Thrawn duology is about the Imperial Remnant trying to unify and figure out how to deal with the New Republic, and that takes place about fifteen years after Endor

>>51412140
Oh, it was GLORIOUS, the X-Wing books cover a lot of the first Warlords era, then Darksaber covers the second Warlords era.

There's a lot of supplementary stuff in the Star Wars Adventure Journal and the Essential Atlas/Essential Guide to Warfare as well but those are not so story focused.

>>51412264
This covers a ton of it.

Personally I find it to be the most interesting period of Star Wars history.

>>51412140

There was no succession plans, which led to the various Moffs, Admirals, Governors etc all vying for local power. This led to a lack of coordination, with resources being wasted fighting amongst each other

>>51412293
One of the saddest things of NuCanon is over a decade of in-universe campaigning, fighting, and politics was condensed to one year.

>>51412324
It might make more sense after it gets more fleshed out. We know Sheev had kind of a Scorched earth protocol in place in case of his death.

>>51406367
The Rakata were huge Darksiders, actually. "Darth" is supposedly an old Rakata word for 'ruler.'

So basically just the YV, and the YV are Shit.

>>51412363
What I want to know is how the hell the Rebellion got the resources to not just win, but allegedly overwhelm the Empire in, what, a year? Where did the money come from? What logistical witchcraft did Mon Mothma pull out of her ass to build, equip, crew, and maintain enough fleets to take the Empire on so many fronts? Did this fuck over the economy and lead to the mass demobilization that caused TFA?

>>51412399
true, but people have started wars without the force.
See, all wars in our history.
The force is involved in Star Wars wars because it's a source of power. Sources of power get involved in war. Land, fuel, technology, etc.
That's the nature of war.

>>51412482
Haven't read Aftermath but my guess is following Palpatines death and the revelation that ANOTHER Death Star was being made most of the planets easly joined the Alliance.

>>51412519
>ANOTHER Death Star
Are we talking the second Death Star or did the nuEmpire seriously commission a third anti-son-of-a-bitch machine?

>>51412482

Xin Sheng? :^)

>>51412516
We're not talking about our history. We're talking about Star Wars history. And in Star Wars history, every single major galactic war was because of the Force. Except the Vong, and no one cares about the Vong.

>>51412482
even in Legends, the Imperial fleet got wrecked at the battle of Endor. The SSD there had a huge percentage of the top navel commanders, and losing Sheev destroyed their coordination.
The battle DS destruction, which they cut away from, is a complete rout for the empire.

Also, even in Legends the empire starts facturing almost immediately.

So the question is battle of Jakku basically breaking the last of the leadership and moral of a disorganized Empire and scattering the remaining power, or do they somehow destroy all remaining naval power of the empire.
Because the first one isn't that far off from legends, while the second is stupid.

>>51412541
DSII, gotta keep in mind that it wasn't public knowledge and that the Rebels reacted at the first rumor of a potential project.

>>51412550
because the force is a source of power. of course it's involved.
They also all involved hyperdrives, lets get rid of those too.

>>51412566
An Imperial fleet, not THE entirety of the Imperial Navy. The Empire still had SSDs, officers, and fleets stationed across the galaxy. Legends' Empire took multiple years to collapse even with the Imperial Civil War going on. Coruscant wasn't even in Rebel hands until 2 years after Endor. Also note that the Rebellion threw its heaviest hitters into the Endor battle and still lost quite a lot of materiel. What baffles me is the speed of the conquest and the resources necessary to accomplish such an effort.

>>51412566
>So the question is battle of Jakku basically breaking the last of the leadership and moral of a disorganized Empire and scattering the remaining power, or do they somehow destroy all remaining naval power of the empire.
>Because the first one isn't that far off from legends, while the second is stupid.
In Nucanon the empire surrendered and disarmed itself after Jakku.

>>51412640
The deaths of the Emperor, Vader, and their trusted military commanders pretty much broke the Empire until Thrawn reorganized the remnants.

I am running a Force and Destiny campaign for my friends that takes place a year after the Battle of Yavin, except the Imperials won and the Death Star wasn't destroyed. What are some planets that were in open rebellion before the Battle of Yavin? The only one I can think of is Mon Cala. Trying to make of a list of planets that that Empire would have definitely destroyed.

>>51412640
>Coruscant wasn't even in Rebel hands until 2 years after Endor.
and at that point the Empire was dead.
There were warlords and threats, and other military powers, but the Empire as empire was gone.
Going from 2 years to 1 year isn't that big of a deal.
And really Ysaard's empire was a pretty pale shadow of the empire even before that.

>>51412697
>disarmed itself after Jakku.
so I've gotten some conflicting reports on this, because some seem to be saying that the remains of the Empire agreed to take their toys and go home, not bothering the core wars and the republic, but still existing.
Others make it seem like every single TIE fighter was taken apart right after this.

>>51412782
Uh, no, there were vast swathes of the galaxy still in imperial or Imperial styled Warlord hands, and at the beginning of the Thrawn Trilogy they mention the empire still had a slightly more powerful fleet when Han said "We're ALMOST evenly gunned, but our guys are more motivated."

And that may not even be counting the forces that hid in the Deep Core as the clone emperor (Glad he's gone at least) called them away.

>>51412847
>Uh, no, there were vast swathes of the galaxy still in imperial or Imperial styled Warlord hands,
you mean just Imperial styled Warlord hands.
They we're scattered powers, not "The Empire".

Thrawn didn't actually have that strong of forces, not enough to take on the Rebel fleet concentrated, until after he pulled some mass rearmament out of hidden pockets.

>>51412776
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Alliance_of_Free_Planets#Known_member_planets_of_the_Alliance_of_Free_Planets
These are after Endor. I don't really think planets WERE in open rebellion before Yavin. The senate hadn't even been abolished until just before Alderaan.

>>51412776
Chandrila was another planet that was planned to be destroyed as a result of their defiant attitudes.

>>51411702
>Why does he always get the best side plots.
because he's the best side character

>>51412140
up until approximately '99, that was literally 90+% of EU plots. it was a total fucking nightmare warlord mess and it was great

>>51413007

I know we're getting young Lando but if there is going to be no old Lando in the sequels I will be even more disappointed.

>>51412897
The Imperial Remnant was still considered the Empire during the signing of the Bastion Accords, which didn't occur until 19 ABY. The Empire and warlords kept up the fight for over a decade, unlike the nuEmpire. Taking Coruscant didn't win the war, it was just a symbolic gesture. Coruscant didn't produce ships, guns, food, medicine, etc. The Legends Remnant and warlords still held numerous agricultural and industrial centers across the galaxy to fuel their war efforts, and they had plenty of firepower to spare.

If the nuEmpire did surrender and voluntarily disarm at Jakku after one year of war, it still doesn't answer what happened to all the other worlds the Empire held and garrisoned. They weren't like Imperial Japan, which always suffered from resource shortages. Did the NR somehow conquer, hold, and fortify the vast majority of the Empire's economic centers in less then a year? How? Where did all those trained ground forces and ship crews come from? How did the poorfag Rebels manage to set up the logistical framework necessary to manage conventional, overwhelming galactic conquest? How many times did Wedge have to repeat the Razor Rendezvous gold medal run?

>>51412897
There was one "Empire" but it was pretty much leaderless between Isard and Thrawn. Probably some kind of interim council (Oddly enough the Thrawn Trilogy Sourcebook from WEG implied that Captain Pellaeon was the highest officer in the Navy during that time. Which was just wrong but hey, it was super early.)

>>51413080
>but if there is going to be no old Lando in the sequels I will be even more disappointed.
The actor indicated that he was interested in being in the sequels, but couldn't do 7 for health reasons, so we'll see

>>51413084
okay, who lead that Empire?
Who all reported to that guy?
Did the warlords consider him the Empire, or just another Warlord?

>>51412545
Go back to /btg/, freebirth Liao dog!

>>51413092
>but it was pretty much leaderless between Isard and Thrawn. Probably some kind of interim council
IIRC there was something of the sort, though it had very little actual power
>>51413242
>okay, who lead that Empire?
Admiral Gilad Pellaeon
>Who all reported to that guy?
a large number of former warlord kingdoms were absorbed, as were various loyalist straggler groups who were defacto warlords but didn't consider themselves a such
>>51413242
>Did the warlords consider him the Empire, or just another Warlord?
that varied warlord to warlord. the NR certainly did

>>51413283
So an Imperial Warlord who, who was being pushed back, didn't have the forces to take on the Rebel fleet directly, and relied heavily on newly impressed troops.

So very much not the Empire, just the biggest Warlord.

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>>51413242
>leader
The Council of Moffs, Daala, then eventually Pellaeon.

>who reported to that guy
Pellaeon and Daala's personal forces, as well as the fleets and territories of thirteen warlord factions following Daala's execution of said faction leaders. The IR also held a large number of loyal Imperial worlds who voluntarily aligned themselves with the Remnant. According to the Wook, the IR was the largest Imperial entity in the post-Thrawn era.

Not all warlords agreed with the IR, but that was irrelevant. The IR was larger, more powerful, wealthier, and more recognized by the galaxy than them. They held the new Imperial capital and the most Imperial form of government. For all intents and purposes, they were the Empire.

>>51413242
Between Isard and Thrawn I believe it was led a by a conglomeration of Moffs as the civilian govt, with various admirals and captains in service including Admiral Rogriss. Never called anything aside from "The Empire."

>>51413283
After Darksaber yes it was Admiral Gilad Pellaeon (Who resisted being declared Grand Admiral till some time during the Vong invasions I think.)

>>51413349
He wasn't sole leader he had the remains of most of the Empire and Pentastar's civilian government as well. (And Ironically they were more war-happy than he was)

Anyone got their quadjumper yet? I pre-ordered in December and it's now showing as Feb 2nd release; as far as I can tell it just keeps getting delayed. Is this limited to my chosen store, or is FFG delaying it?

>>51409414
Are we talking about the first Clone Wars cartoon? He knew what he was doing there, before Lucas came and raped him.

>>51413349
he also had the closest thing to the correct place in the theoretical imperial line of succession to legitimately hold the title of the Actual Empire

>>51413382
In an article published this Monday, they named Feb 2nd as the official release date for wave X, so I think they're sticking with it. Be sure to tell us all about your experience with the space tugboat once you get it, anon.

>>51403855
Then I guess you've never watched Star Wars

>>51410451
In the first scene I posted, Grievous had pinned Ahsoka's right arm, her left arm was free, but he an arm able to block and the arm was very far away from grievous' body.

Meanwhile grievous had a fourth lightsaber doing NOTHING and was RIGHT AGAINST AHSOKA'S ABDOMEN. Had grievous rotated his wrist by about five degrees, Ahsoka would have been vivisected.

>>51413364
>>51413370
And all official diplomatic papers refer to North Korea as People Democratic Republic, doesn't mean they are.

The IR was something created after the Empire was broken, a new government put together by scattered military leaders and worlds. It's no more the Empire than the First Order is.

>>51413449
Plot armor.

>>51413453
And? Even some of the individual Warlords could threaten the Republic or at least had enough forces to bloody noses and keep their independence.

>>51413548
and my point is that the Empire, as the empire, the unified form of power, highly disciplined government, etc, died shortly after the empire.

There were was a lot of military power, a lot of beurocratic organizations, a lot of inferstructor left, and a number of military commanders left. Those things were problems for the Republic, and eventually a number of them formed back together into a bigger problem.
But that was the new threat created from the remains of the Empire. The empire broke first.

Nucannon isn't changing the Empire breaking, they're only changing how the broken bits of the empire reacted after the fact.

>>51413645
Either way it's made it boring as fuck.

>>51403855
You sound like a shit GM with a yardstick up your ass.

>>51413665
What did he mean by this?

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>>51412482
>What I want to know is how the hell the Rebellion got the resources to not just win, but allegedly overwhelm the Empire in, what, a year?

Well, they didn't really. You've got to remember, the NR doesn't really have much of a military and in fact is opposed to owning one, hence why the resistance exists in the first place. Also, the NR doesn't even have a capital world, they just vote for a new one each year on a different world. So basically, the NR is this incredibly weak, essentially non-existent government that filled the void after the Empire imploded. This is also why the FO is so popular, because people are sick of galactic anarchy, and the NR's ability to handle it.

I guess essentially its the opposite of old canon; the NR is a clusterfuck of feuding warlords, and the Empire is a small, determined force taking them on.

>>51413453
It's less NK and more Eastern Roman Empire. The citizens consider themselves Roman/Imp, the government considers itself Roman/Imp. Most of the old government tenets are still followed, but unlike the ERE, the IR did not experience a massive cultural shift. It was still mostly the same culture.

>>51413944
Emperor was all but worshipped in the old empire. Their god died, that's a pretty big cultural shift.

>>51414060
Nah, the emperor only really cultivated a cult of personality in a limited portion of the imperial infrastructure, not the general public.

>>51407754
Max his agility so he can run away faster.

>>51413413
Ah, okay. I don't frequent FFG's site, thanks for that. I will do, though it's likely to be some time!

Hey /swg/ - I'm starting to accrue more X-Wing models and I need more than a tackle box. I've seen guys with carrying cases with foam cut outs that look nice - anyone know which are some of the cheaper/better versions?

I mainly have scum ships at the current moment.

>>51414153
did you read the x-wing series? there is plenty of 'beloved leader' shit going on.

>>51412782
>so I've gotten some conflicting reports on this, because some seem to be saying that the remains of the Empire agreed to take their toys and go home, not bothering the core wars and the republic, but still existing.
>Others make it seem like every single TIE fighter was taken apart right after this.
from what I understand by reading wikis because I have yet to invest in nucanon, Empire officially agrees to disarm after/during the battle of Jakku, but huge portions of the fleet escaped to the unknown regions rather than follow their orders to surrender. These either become warlords, or fold themselves into the First Order, while the "real" Empire disarms and makes peace with the NR

someone feel free to correct any details I got wrong

>>51414419

Something like that.

Its the nucanon explanation for all the bizarre story choices TFA made. Its Star Wars, in a part of the galaxy with not many familiar Star Wars things, except some of the same characters are there, doing things they used to do 20 odd years ago because they're not in the part of space where the story advanced.

>>51412566
At best the Empire lost 100 Star Destroyers at Endor, they had 20,000 more.

>>51414294

I personally use the Feldherr range of foam/carry cases. They do foam trays for everything X-Wing, right up to the CR90/Raider.

>>51407776
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/N-K_Necrosis

>>51414710
Endor wasn't the last battle, they keep bleeding to death all the way to Jakku.

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>>51414419
>but huge portions of the fleet escaped to the unknown regions

Not huge portions, a small, pathetic fraction of the the Imperial Navy. This is why a lot of senators in the NR refuse to take the FO seriously, because this small defenseless force has mysteriously renewed resources and strength from somewhere in the unknown regions.

>>51413415
Yeah I only watch films I don't waste my time watching flicks.
>>51413689
You can feel free to slander me with ad hominem all you want. It does not make you right in the slighest. My players love my narratives because of the maturity and complexity they exude.

I want to run a Star Wars oneshot in SW d6 and I am constantly told that for most purposes - lore [we're playing an Episode 3.75 kinda situation, so no Jedi around] and system wise [Force and mundane characters have shit balance] parties should be all Jedi or no Jedi.

Problem is I'm gonna be running for newbie friends and I assume they'd like to see some lightsabers 'n' shit, and the idea of depriving SW of its most iconic element is kinda sketchy when I think of it. How do you run your all-mundane games?

>>51414781
>How do you run your all-mundane games?
Using EotE.

>>51414800
Frankly I picked SW d6 for its simplicity and wanted to try out that one Tatooine module without much customization, if that's not a problem. [or is EotE just as simple?]

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>>51414781
>How do you run your all-mundane games?
You don't need the Force to fly a starship, hunt bounties, perform heists, drive a tank, complain about being infantry, or be a sneeki breeki.

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>>51414710
Yeah, but the Empire made the mistake of being obsessed with raw power, while neglecting logistics (the worst mistake a commander can make)

Remember that the Empire disbanded the Senate, blew up a popular and respected planet, and then threatened to destroy anyone who didn't obey them. This turned the entire galaxy against them, especially all the major Core World and CSA planets that supplied everything necessary to run their army. After Endor, these planets revolted, destroying any power of logistics the Empire had.

Unlike in old canon, the Imperial Military follows logic, and can't descend into warlordism without losing the tech and logistics necessary to be a warlord, IE the Empire died within a year.

>>51414739
>bleeding

Its stupid though, the forces simply do not exist to 'bleed' them in space that way over a period of only one year. The rebels have had their main fleet battered and the Empire can throw another hundred fleets at them easily.

The way the Empire loses in the new canon is just poorly thought out. One year is far too little time for a decisive battle to be possible. Five years would be enough time for the rebels to build a real fleet amid mass defection of Imperial worlds.

>>51414813
People meme about the dice but FFG sw are extremely simple with enough depth that you can do pretty much anything. You also don't need to be a math wizard to play the game either.

So I might end up playing Star Wars Force Destiny and wanted to know what would be a good class for a lightsaber pike, Soresu Defender or Shii-cho Knight?

Also would a curved lightsaber handle be a good alternative lightsaber for Shii-cho Knight, fluff wise?

>>51414813
Once you get past the non-standard dice it's a breeze, and you can use phone apps or google hangouts (but google is dropping this feature) if you don't want to shekel up for dice you might not use a lot.

https://cjhooker.github.io/eote-dice-roller-qa/hangout-button.html

>>51414867
Problem is that system was not released in Poland so I don't have the dice or the opportunity to buy them at all. Unless I'm misunderstanding something.

>>51414853
>the new canon is just poorly thought out.
Yes.

>>51414710
>know the entire rebel fleet that is your only major threat is coming.
>send less than 1% of your fleet against it.
when soft sci-fi authors throw out numbers, it's best to take them with a lot of salt, or ignore them in favor of broad generalizations.

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>>51414930
The other 99% are prepping for the YV.

>>51414850
You really think its feasible for a galaxy spanning military to be unable to muster even 1% of its normal forces after one year? Because 200 Star Destroyers is a match for anything the rebels could muster so quickly. They would still be able to hold a number of factory and supply worlds. There would have to be supply bases on worlds somewhere without large and unhappy populations.

>>51413084
The fact that Imperial Remnant is no longer a thing hurts me physically

>>51414985
well somehow they weren't able to muster that many for a trap they had set up to take out the rebels when they had all their senior command staff alive.

>>51414991
they just changed the name.

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>>51414985
see
>>51413819

The Empire didn't have enough resources to maintain its absurdly expensive fleets, 99% of them were operating around 1% efficiency. It's far more realistic than what we got in old canon (however its also far less interesting, I agree)

Think of it this way: The US Military revolts against all the local governments in America, then threaten to nuke any state or corporation that doesn't do what they want. Then their nuclear arsenal disappears, and every state, from Russia and China to the EU and Israel declares war, and as a result they lose ALL manufacturing and logistic capabilities to the newly freed America. Furthermore, they've lost all competent officers with the nukes. And then to add to that, they have to (without and resources) maintain several colonies in the solar system just to continue operating. That's what the Empire is like after Endor.

The New Republic just slid poorly into place after the Empire self-destructed.

>>51406607
Fuck it, I'm inspired.

How would you go about an adventure to begin having your players get their NPC Rebel Mooks to this level?

I'm thinking defecting stormtrooper instructor, but beyond that I'm lost.

>>51414879
nothing?

>>51414850
In the EU the various warlords and the Remnant had pretty solid logistics bases to keep their fleet and direct uprisings were less common since they either held worlds in iron grips or were actually popular there despite everything.

It's still logical if you assume everyone was willing to put aside the Death Stars as madness from Tarkin and Palpatine that didn't make the rest of the Navy totally untrustworthy.

>>51415842
so even more not the Empire but new powers with left over equipment.

I think the nucannon actually has room for a lot of interesting stuff to be filled in that happened. They just did a major time skip.
While time skips have problems, they don't mean the time can't be filled in by later works.

>>51412904
Mon Cala was, the Empire just didn't think it was worth the time or effort to reconquer the world due to its remote location. But they didn't formally join the rebellion until after Yavin

>>51414902
You can simulate the dice with your regular RPG dice

>>51416191
While the core rules have a chart with the dice conversion on it, I also recommend using an online dice roller or a phone app for ease of use.

http://game2.ca/eote/

>>51414902
>>51416191
You can also use the dice app linked in the OP of every thread, order a set of dice online, or make a custom set by buying blank dice and painting the symbols on.

It can be a minor inconvenience but it shouldn't be the thing preventing you from playing.

>>51416191
>>51416307
I know this is annoying and slow even for x-wing which has the easiest dice to simulate.
If you're really hard up I get it, but the dice are probably worth paying for.

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>>51406336
>why don't we cure cancer by taking all these potentially immortal and definitely parasitic cells and putting them in a nice little home safe away from the immune system and all the other cells where they can grow and be free because they're still feeding off their parent organism
Life begets conflict, deal with it wisely.

>>51416584
Its more like quarantineing a genetically transmitted disease.

Only step one IMHO, they should gas them after rounding them up too.

Only downside is you need the force to find the force users.

>>51416857
Mandatory Midichlorian tests?

>>51416857
your argument is still mistaking correlation for causation.
and that's if we accept the premise that conflict Star Wars is so radically different than in our world that we can't include any of those examples of war without force users.

>>51416891
If I never hear that word again it will be too soon

>>51416915
I don't think it will end war, people will always have beef.
It just stops superheroes from walking over everyone else with impunity.

Sure, Mandos become a bigger problem. It's just more easily countered.

>>51416963
Wars are much easier to fight when you're not stuck fighting an army of neigh invincible supermen with psychic powers. It's trading more wars for less horrifying wars and playing with the fate of the galaxy on a whim.

>>51406336
The setting is about Wars among the Stars and force user are also a big part of the universe. They naturally brush up.

Now leave, you Kotor 2 threads were insipid, don't try to turn this into one.