Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1301: Jumpchain, Jumpchain Never Changes

Missed some questions last thread, the supernova class fortress in the new alterworld jump I posted, I got the measurements directly from the book so... its supposed to be a octogon with segments 1/2 mile long. Or at least thats how it is described in the book.

>>51338485
Does Broody Hen work on all eggs or only 1 type of egg that we choose when we take it? Also, in Prince of the House of Night it says we are technically the husband of a princess. Who is she/ what is she like, and can we take her as a companion with the perk?

>>51338508
>Who is she/ what is she like
An intolerable bitch who will want to sacrifice you to the sadistic goddess mentioned in the +600 drawback so that she can revive her previous husband. (among other things)

>>51338485
Have to say, I never ever expected anyone to make a jump out of russian stuff, much less Play to Live. Kudos and thanks.

What's next? Someone makes the Watches jump?!

Maybe one day.

>>51338508
Broody hen lets you hatch any egg you have, technically her husband but her real husband gets brought back to life and she actually loves him. She is a high priestess of Lolth the spider goddess, she is a lieing, deceitful, backstabbing dark elf. In the story the mc becomes prince of the house but he doesn't actually get to follow through (because she tried to kill him and send his soul to lolth) she mellows a bit later after reviving her husband but she is still a bitch.

>>51338541
>>51338530
So no waifuing the princess, got it. Thanks.

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Jumpers!

Be honest, now. Do you ever go out of your way to be an ass to the settings MC? Who was it, and why were they asking for it?

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>>51335006
>spoilers
You jest, but I'm actually thinking of doing something like that when I get to writing Alchemicals.

Except of course not giving the jumper the ability to make Alchemicals (that's Autobot's sole domain after all), but offering a companion purchase that's a team of Demiurges with a connection to Autocthon. The extremely rare materials and exceptional souls (and soul gems) neccessary for the process would be left as an exercise for the particular jumper.

Not sure why they'd be comparable to the Red androids thing though? I didn't watch too much of YJ, but Red Tornado didn't seem that impressive.

>>51333681
Orichalcum and Moonsilver from Exalted are good contenders, I'd say? Both are naturally occuring, nigh-indestructable metals. Orichalcum's more durable, Moonsilver's kinda fluid. (Jade's also an option, but not a great one.)

Octiron from Discworld or Uru from Marvel might also be good option, depending on whether they count.

I kinda wish there was an option to be /entirely/ living metal though, instead of a small-ish spot like that perk. It'd be pretty badass.

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>>51338573
They wanted to steal the main stage form me.

>>51338573
Hunter x Hunter. Gon Freecss a shit, so I beat the shit out of him after making him transform into uber Gon or whatever that form is called.

>>51338541
So, if you get both Prince of the House of Night and Lolths Curse... Can you assume she already tried to sacrifice you and it didn't work for some reason?

Also, what is this dead/revived husband like? Decent guy, worse than the princess, kinda meh, or something else?

Speaking of, how does Prince of the House of Night work for Max now that we start just when he made his character? Can he still become a Prince too, even if I already am?


And unrelatedly to the drow stuff, canon companion option?

>>51338635
I can put in a canon companion option, sure.

The prince is surprisingly decent, if you take lolths curse she already tried and failed. Max tries to not get anywhere near her but abuses his title as prince to bug her, like walking up to guards and making them all paint their armor pink. She still has overriding power but if shes not around he can order them around.

>>51338573
>Being a shit to people
>Not helping them be better
What's wrong with all of you?

>>51338573
SAO. After getting to know him my plans to shit on him changed into just pranking him every now and then. He's a good kid even if he's a bit bullshit for his world, maybe i should have taken him with klein?

>>51338688
>I can put in a canon companion option, sure.
Nice, thanks.

>The prince is surprisingly decent
Huh, that's unexpected. Might just be nice and resurrect him myself then.

>Max tries to not get anywhere near her but
So he still becomes prince anyway? Good to know, I suppose.

>>51338485
Why is the capstone for an origin a single spell? It is a good spell but it is something you can obtain in game. Wouldn't the luck that allows the MC to get stuff like that make for a better capstone?

Do I need to take Life Hunter to use the necromancer class? Being able to collect soul stones is an integral part of the class which you appear to be charging extra for.

Create ability scroll is a good ability but it is still only a moderate buff to an ability you can pick up in game, not worth it as a capstone.

The entire Golem Master tree, the Golem thing seems like it should be one perk in a crafting focused origin. Not an entire origin in and of itself. (which it sort of already is as the rest of the tree seems more generally crafting focused, still one crafting focus seems over priced and normal golems are common enough).

Quest Giver should not be a capstone, that is just something NPCs (and some players) can do. Unless we start out as a nameless one without that perk in which case that origin is a massive trap.

Does the Holy unmercenary come with the effects of the base unmercenary title? (your corpse cannot be looted?)

The Adamant weapon seems underwhelming as it is just a weapon with no apparent bonuses, you could wank that it has the class appropriate bonuses such a weapon would have but that should be part of the description.

Wunderwaffle is nowhere near enough for the price, an weapon with a decent boost to to areas? That is every weapon any perma would be caught dead with a lowish level, it needs to be stronger for it's price (preferably replaced with the adamant weapon).

Super Nova Class Fortress is awesome, way more awesome than is described in the description. You should include the features such a fortress would have. (also the fact that any castle can summon NPCs in exchange for money should be noted).

Cont.

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How loyal are your companions to your persona? How far have they come to help you? What's the weirdest/most horrible thing that you have asked them to do and they complied?

>>51338485
>>51338745
Overall the jump is disappointing, it is an high level fantasy setting where game mechanics are laws of physics but very few of the options reflect that and those that do still don't give an idea of the scale of things. Where are the Epic items? The equipment sets that scale to your level? The descriptions that display the coolest parts of the setting?

>>51338573
Man, Clone Wars got away with a lot of shit you wouldn't expect on Cartoon Network. I kinda miss it.

>>51338714
I help people by beating them. And usually they /are/ better as a mushy pulp than they were as living beings.

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Reposting here for the drive as I'd judge it finished unless anyone has comments.
Also redid some bits of text here and there.

>>51338485

Do we get to keep the dragons from Broody Hen?

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>>51338806
Both of the Clone Wars cartoons were great and, for my money, more interesting and enjoyable than the prequel films.

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>>51338828
Could you unbold the perk descriptions? It kinda just blends together with everything.

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Where can I get some cool-looking magic eyes that aren't too edgy?

>>51338863
Bayonetta.

That's... pretty much it, I think. Most magic eyes are pretty edgy.

>>51338863
Biomancy

>>51338863
Light Bringer can get you rainbow eyes if you buy all the colour magic types and one of the capstones.

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>>51338863
Mushoku Tensei? It's got a lot of magic eyes.

>>51338863
Fate has some neat ones.

>>51338860
Erm, it's not bolded, that's just the font i used (Arial Rounded MT Bold).
Should I change it or leave it like that?

>>51338745
>Why is the capstone for an origin a single spell..

Only the mc gets the spell in the book, its one of those super special achievement rewards. Nobody else is able to obtain it, it was literally a god (the ai controlling the quests at that point) leaning on the game engine to give max a cheaty ability.

>Do I need to take Life Hunter to use the necromancer class..

No you can take necromancer without it but this one lets you get them as standard drops for anything, the updated version lets you get soul gems for anything you destroy.

>Create ability scroll is a good ability but it is still only a moderate buff to an...

It lets you put jumper stuff into scrolls.

>The entire Golem Master tree...

Normal golem crafting is nowhere near common, its one of the least common jobs because learning to craft golems costs so much it literally causes those wishing to learn it have to basically sell themselves into slavery. Even the ability to use golems is a rare ability.


>Quest Giver should not be a capstone, that is just something NPCs (and some players) can do. Unless we start out as a nameless one without that perk in which case that origin is a massive trap.

I disagree.

Npcs can give quests in the setting but this allows you to do it for people outside of the setting.

>Does the Holy unmercenary come with the effects of the base unmercenary title? (your corpse cannot be looted?)

It does what it says, it loots stuff for you.

>The Adamant weapon seems underwhelming as it...

It can cut gods, how is that not impressive? Thats what it does in setting.

>Wunderwaffle is nowhere near enough for the price, an weapon with a decent boost to to areas?

adamant is already in as an option but I am not adverse to lowering the cost of wunderwaffle.


>Super Nova Class Fortress is awesome, way more awesome than is.....

I gave the description the book gave, the npc creation was a part of the world and I felt it was fine giving it as described in the book.

>>51338899
Well whatever is easier for you. Just that the text just everything seems to blend together.

>>51338899
If you like Arial, just use a non bolded version of it. Arial Unicode MS looks pretty much like the non-bolded version of your original font. If you use that, or something like it, you could bold section headings or perk names or whatever works best.

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What are some perks to help with PTSD and with going from a "kill everything" setting to a "slice of life" setting?

>inb4 jumpers don't get PTSD because they're the traumatic event

>>51338847 #
I was going to add them as buyable eggs that you can get for buying the perk at a discount.

>>51338786 #
Im sorry you feel that way

>>51338931
Meta, from Project Freelancer. It ensures that you'll always have positive emotional growth and improving psychological stability. It doesn't grant it on its own, so it's not a quick fix, but it's always active and guarantees that given time you'll be able to come back from even the worst trauma.

>>51338931
Mass Effect has a perk specifically for that.
General sanity/mental healing perks should also help, someone asked about those just last thread.
Worm, Nechronica and the new Madoka jump were mentioned.

Child at Heart (Chronicles of Narnia) and Don't Ever Change (Kingdom Hearts) should also help, to an extent.

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>>51338926
>>51338912
So I edited it and here V0.4: Unbolded Edition.
Is it better? If so I'll keep it like that.

>>51338988
>Mass Effect has a perk specifically for that.
Which is a bit ironic as Shep suffers from PTSD throughout 3 and gives the distinct impression that he's ready to die.

>>51339002
Looks good m80

>>51339002
Looks a lot better.

>>51338909
>Only the mc gets the spell in the book, its one of those super special achievement rewards. Nobody else is able to obtain it, it was literally a god (the ai controlling the quests at that point) leaning on the game engine to give max a cheaty ability.
And one cheaty ability with narrow uses isn't particularly good as a capstone, it isn't worth the price and that origin should have better perks (they all should).

>No you can take necromancer without it but this one lets you get them as standard drops for anything, the updated version lets you get soul gems for anything you destroy.
Necro's already do get those as standard drops for everything, if they don't post jump then the class is worthless post jump

>It lets you put jumper stuff into scrolls.
And it is possible to put abilities into scrolls in setting, jumper stuff would not be an exeption. All this does is let you put the types of things that can't normally be put in scrolls, into scrolls. Which is great, but not worth a capstone in a setting like this

>Normal golem crafting is nowhere near common
Normal golems are found guarding the entrance of any guild who wants to show off how much money they have. You have a capstone that can be readily bought with money, sure players would have trouble getting that much cash but for a jumper. . .

>Npcs can give quests in the setting but this allows you to do it for people outside of the setting.
Fair enough I suppose but it is still too weak for a capstone, "you can do this thing you can do in jump outside of the jump" Has minimal value in setting even if it is valuable post jump

>It does what it says, it loots stuff for you.
Then it isn't worth it, you can earn this power in setting easily enough regardless but a nerfed version of an ability you can easily get yourself isn't worth 300

cont.

>>51339016
>>51339028
Okay, then. Unbolded Edition it is.
You know, that's the same font I used for my first jump. Think I should do the same to it? Not like it'd take long.

>>51339067
Yeah, putting headings and perks in bold and leaving body text unbolded makes things much easier to read. So if it isn't too much trouble, that wouldn't be a bad way to go.

Thanks for this jump, btw, I'm a fan of the Tonelico series.

>>51338909
>>51339065
>It can cut gods, how is that not impressive? Thats what it does in setting.
Yes that is impressive, but it isn't right. Weapons in this setting double as stat sticks, it should have stats to match. If it doesn't have the stats it has no value unless you are fighting someone who needs Adamant to harm them (a very short list) especially for casters.

>adamant is already in as an option but I am not adverse to lowering the cost of wunderwaffle.
The current version of wunderwaffle shouldn't be offered as a CP purchase at all, it is an item beneath what an average perma player would be using and is doomed to become obsolete.

>the npc creation was a part of the world
If the aspects of the castles that stem from the world aren't included in the purchase then neither of them are worth the price.


Might I suggest taking a look at the Overlord LN jump, it might help.

>>51339119
>>51339065
Put your trip back on Brellin.

>>51339119
>look at the Overlord LN jump, it might help.


Oh you are one of those assholes. Ignore this guy aion.

>>51339132
Not him.

>>51339141
Why would a jump set is a similar setting not be a useful reference?

Have you read the Play to Live books?

>>51338485
We get to pick what the quests from the NPC capstone are, right?

Can we give them stupid stuff for their quests, such as telling them to compose a poem about our greatness or go streaking? Obviously this wouldn't give them much growth, but is something like that allowable?

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>>51339080
So here the Unbolded Edition of Origin: Spirits of the Past for the drive.

>>51338622
Why though? He's a pretty cool MC with actual flaws and weaknesses.

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>>51338863
Gravity Falls?

>>51339155
Yes of course.

>>51339119
Bigasd self improving castle isn worth cp?

Only weakpoint is the gate is not worth cp?

>>51339065
Standard drops for anything including stuff you normally wouldnt like robots for example.

And I highly doubt you can put jumper abilities into a scroll standard, and even if you could you would need divine sparks. This has not got that weakness.

>>51336945
Thank you kind image editing anon!

>>51339158
Nice. Much easier to read.

>>51339223
Bigasd self improving castle isn worth cp?
When it is missing many of the core functions? Yes.

>Only weakpoint is the gate is not worth cp?
What exactly do you mean by this? Because it is either wrong, OC, and/or Overpowered.


You have chosen to make a jump based on the most popular series in a small genre with a cult following. The few people who know about this setting are likely to do a lot of REEEEEing unless it is exceptionally good, including me (sorry if I'm being a dick about it).

>>51339158
I'm sorry, but could you justify the text?

It might be just me, but I'm not really used to read an unjustified document.

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>>51338573
Yes. Probably the worst offender was SAO. But honestly I was the god emperor of dicks to everybody in that universe. I was Kayaba's accomplice and used my programming skills and admin rights to make the game significantly more responsive and challenging. My biggest contribution was probably revamping the systems responsible for dungeon and monster spawns to scale the challenge in real-time based on hundreds of additional factors, resulting in the game becoming much more difficult and thousands of more people dying than they did in the original story. Even Kirito had some close calls there but his plot armor really is too fucking ridiculous. Meanwhile I hung around as a totally innocuous player who mindfucked people with psychology to spur on quarrels and arguments. I was responsible for hundreds of more deaths via personal interaction alone. I also constantly ran into Kirito and Asuna and went out of my way to befriend them. Only to later expose myself as the Boss of the 99th Floor, explain everything to them in detail, and fight them to the death. I didn't use any OCPs and deliberately gimped my skills and intelligence down to a level where I was very challenging but not impossible. They beat me, which I'll admit was impressive, so I congratulated them as I disappeared. Basically I spent my entire time in SAO being an unbelievable dick.

Then I showed up in both Alfheim and Gun Gale later on and trolled the shit out of both of them, starting off with pretending to be a cheerful, friendly shota player who didn't know them and joined up with their party only to drop the bomb much later and then even later killing Death Gun with Glitch from Creepypasta (by forming a gun with my hand and saying "Bang!") which caused Kirito to have to a nervous breakdown. I didn't let up on the psychological anal rape of everyone in that universe for ten years. In the end I was caught and convicted of basically being Satan and locked up. Then I disappeared as the jump ended.

>>51339355
...Justify the text? Wut?
The only thing I did was change the font to my jump which was already on the drive.

>>51339354
You can only attack the gates in the setting. Thats covered a lot of times in the books. After they take down the forcefields the only way to take a castle is to take out the gates so you have hundreds of people attacking a gate when there is a hole in the wall not far away.

>>51339380
Oh wait *facepalm* I didn't understand what you were saying. I'll do it in a second.

>>51339354
More like powerwankers reeing because they can't get overlord levels of power from a jump that never shows anyone having that much power.

>>51338573
Gundam SEED. I spent that whole jump clowning on people with my far superior mecha. No one was spared my dickishness. On the plus side, it actually did lead to positive character growth for Kira and Lacus, even if I didn't intend it. Seeing how my going around and interfering with other people's battles with my uber-Gundam was disruptive and only made things worse convinced them not to do so, themselves.

>>51339396
Maybe you should just fuckoff then. If you can't make me happy and satisfied with your jump we don't need your shit here.

>>51339396
>You can only attack the gates in the setting.
Can you source that? Because it doesn't sound right, you generally have to attack the gates of a castle because that is the only point of vulnerability but I don't remember that being a system enforced thing.

>>51339422
Have you read the books?

>>51339454
Timmy please go and stay go.

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>>51339401
Alright, done. I'll just put it back in the Upload Folder since it was already on the drive.
As for the Ciel Nosurge, here's try 2: Unbolded and Justified Edition.

Sorry for the PDF spam. That'll teach me to not have English as my primary language.

>>51339454
Go away.

>>51339455
Which might explain why, despite the door being open in silent welcome but a few feet away from us, we still blunted our swords on the closed gates like a bunch of idiots.


Book 3 has this part.

Will look for more.

>>51339454
Yeah this is why I dhould have stayed gone. Not sure if you are serious.

>>51339490
>Not sure if you are serious.
That is Timmy, the shitposter. He is serious but you should ignore him. He hates everyone and wants the thread to die.

>>51338574
>I didn't watch too much of YJ, but Red Tornado didn't seem that impressive.

They weren't, that's the entire thing that gets my goat. Brellin was justifying his bullshit with "So this jump lets you make superheroes? Here then, my jump lets you make fully-fledged Exalted. DO YOU LIKE ME NOW."

>>51339481
Much better, thank you.

>>51338714
You're on 4chan.
You're on the internet.

You're seeing people be who they really are.

>>51339528
Which is exactly how jumps should be made.

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So, what exactly is the downside to Damned Sexy from Highschool of the Dead?
I mean, 90% of everybody is dead anyway, right?

>>51339548
>jumpmaking should be a popularity contest

Could you pipe down already? Your mother's in the process of getting ready for our dinner date.

>>51339558
No clue.
Presumably people don't give a shit if ugly people get zombified, but when they're pretty it's bad?
Some people can't bring themselves to shoot a pretty zombie in the head and get eaten?
I have no idea, but somehow the pretty zombie apocalypse is apparently worse than the normal kind.

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>>51339558
Honestly Damned Sexy is one of those, not really a drawback, drawbacks especially if it carries over HOTD standard of beauty to other worlds.

I think that this drawback means that any perks that would stop you from being distracted by the sexy don't work and that you tend to find a lot more situations where your distracted by the sexy come up. But that just my own home ruling and the drawback as I read really does not have much downsides.

However technically speaking its one of the few "change everyone's appearance in this and future jumps" in jumpchain, with only the Investigation and Senran Kagura jumps having the other perks of that category.

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>>51339528
Ah, fair enough. Sorry, didn't get the reference there.

Didn't really pay much attention to all that stuff.

The one time I decided to go and check if SB had anything to say on my jumps, I didn't find much. Apparently a few liked it, which was nice?

Brellin was apparently using a different (more powerful) statline for the Crown of Thunders, and assuming Infernals gave you that instead the Oadenol's Codex version that's actually described?

...not sure where he got that from? But I guess it /is/ the first result if you google Crown of Thunders. For some reason.

Personally, I'm just kinda happy we're getting jumps for every splat (eventually), since judging by the jumps we already have (and my ideas), one general jump would be stretched too thin.

>>51339558
There are a lot of sexy dead people shuffling around. It is basically free points. Feel free to keep it in future jumps given they lack a zombie apocalypse. There, everyone in future jumps is HoTD levels of pretty.

>>51339666
Well satan I thought it was that the world would be full of sexyness, only said sexyness is dead and wants to eat your face. Could also be the temptation towards a crime against nature.

>>51339718
>>51339666
I don't see anything in the drawback description that would suggest that it applies to future jumps.

>>51339666
>Honestly Damned Sexy is one of those, not really a drawback, drawbacks especially if it carries over HOTD standard of beauty to other worlds.
>I think that this drawback means that any perks that would stop you from being distracted by the sexy don't work and that you tend to find a lot more situations where your distracted by the sexy come up. But that just my own home ruling and the drawback really does not have that many downsides.
>Technically speaking its one of the few "change everyone's appearance in this and future jumps" in jumpchain, with only the Investigation and Senran Kagura jumps having the other perks of that category.

In other news I fail at grammar.

>>51339158
Haven't seen the movie but just read the summary on wiki, got to say, fuck the forest. Wreck the moon, kill most of humanity, subjugate the survivors, and it's all good because for some reason they grow humans?

Nope, I'm sorry Smoky but I'm spending the next 10 years running around starting forest fires.

>>51339733
Yeah, but that was already a thing in Highschool Of The Dead even without a drawback.

>>51339749
Some people fanwank that you can keep drawbacks with you. You don't get any extra CP and most drawbacks are a hassle which is why most jumpers don't do that, but then there are "drawbacks" like the Fan verse in Naruto which jumpers actually want to keep for future jumps.

>>51339671
>not sure where he got that from?

I say this not meaning to be thread-racist, and am likely gonna sound thread-racist so fuckitall, but part of the difference between 4chan and SB is that they... always go for the most powerful interpretation. Of everything, internal balance be fucked on the side of the road. They're the type to look at the Tsukihime jump and go "Stronger-than-canon MEoDP? By golly fuck the rest of the jump."

So any assumption on Brellin's behalf was likely deliberate.

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>>51339925

>>51339925
Huh, strange. I didn't get a (You) from this post, same as >>51339265 and >>51339355, but I got one from the others.

Does anyone else have this problem?

I've a question, for any who've managed to do this; how in the world do you get Alma to leave the F.E.A.R. jump? Kidnapping her and stuffing her into a pod is the only thing I can think of, but how do you kidnap a ghost?

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>>51340037
>how do you kidnap a ghost?

>>51340037
>how do you kidnap a ghost

Same way you kidnap anything else of a psionic/mental/otherplanarly nature, anon.
Attractiveness perks and a large brain.

Alternatively, you just covertly replace the protagonist of FEAR 2.

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I've come to the conclusion that I've become /jc/'s recycling bin.

Anyways, haven't been paying attention lately. I miss anything?

>>51339119

I was actually thinking of dropping the castle prices by 100 and adding 100 cp optional upgrades to them to allow them to spawn npc guards that require constant periodical payments to keep around. That does happen in the books but to be honest instant army seemed op. Would you prefer that? I am tring to make this good and the series has been oit a while with no interest from jc Im honestly surprised to ser so many fans.

>>51340100
>that pic
...Oh god, they'd get along famously, wouldn't they?

>>51340120
That sounds like a decent solution to that one.

Doing some brainstorming for a potential jump and wondering: What would be a good price for a gag option of an incredibly powerful particle beam cannon that is fiat locked against ever doing damage to actual enemy combatants? It could massacre fleeing civilians, but as soon as you fire it at something that's trying to fight back (or would fight back, if they knew you were there, for purposes of sneak attacks), the beam just splashes off of them. What's a good price for that?

>>51340100
>I've come to the conclusion that I've become /jc/'s recycling bin.
>explain.meme

>>51340120
I wouldn't do any more than that, otherwise that one asshole is just going to keep pushing after realizing he can get away with it.

>>51340203
Question, have you read the books?

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>>51340192
>Disgaea
>Previous jumpmaker disappeared and the other one who was supposed to pick it up got frustrated with the original WIP.
>Metroid
>Previous jumpmaker disappeared after leaving a tasty WIP. No one picked it back up for at least a year, I think?
>Nanoha
>Previous jumpmaker got tired of the WIP and passed it along. I volunteered.

This literally just sank in and I don't know how to feel about it.
>>51340125
I wouldn't doubt it. Neither of them really understand happiness as humans do for different reasons. They'd probably happily advance their own agendas as a duo.

>>51340203
Just trying to make the jump better for everyone, this way the castles are more affordable but also more uniques if you pay more.

>>51340190
Probably very high, as if it's incredibly powerful, probably a lot of things would flee if you were firing it at them. Sounds like a mess to balance and easily abusable either way.

>>51340260
The second you have to tell someone "Go look at Overlord" and use interjump balance to try and justify something, it really doesn't matter. That's the best way to kill your argument and just make yourself look greedy.

>>51340269
You're the closer, dude. You bring it home when it's on the line. You can rock it in your own right, but you can also step up and help jump makers and the community get the content we want to a level of doneness the IP deserves. You're good people, Heavens.

>>51340285
You have a point. And yet, I really don't want to price this thing highly when it was completely useless in canon. Maybe I should just offer one that isn't subject to plot holes rendering it ineffectual.

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>>51340269
>I don't know how to feel about it.
Feel good. You're doing God's work.

Can someone please post that picture of Angelroids as rescue service? Thanks in advance.

>>51340305
I suggested looking at Overlord for ideas, not for inter jump balance. If you had read the books you would see why the current state of the jump needs a lot of work.

Overlord would be a good reference because Play to Live is exceedingly similar to a lower power version of Overlord. I wouldn't be surprised if the Writer of Overlord read Play to Live.

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>>51340374
Here you go, anon. It's a great picture, and the Angelroids are top tier S&R.

>>51339666
>However technically speaking its one of the few "change everyone's appearance in this and future jumps" in jumpchain, with only the Investigation and Senran Kagura jumps having the other perks of that category.
Dead or Alive has one, as well.

>>51339671
>Brellin
There's your reason.

>>51340037
Speaking of the FEAR jump, anyone know what the creepy doll does?

>>51339987
Maybe you lost your cookies, so 4chan forgot what posts where yours?

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>>51340269
>This literally just sank in and I don't know how to feel about it.

>>51340487
Maybe but meh, they seem to be back and I didn't change anything significant. May have been my internet crapping itself.

>Want a jump.
>Jump is open to make.
>Make jump.
>Get shit on by powerwankers.
>Repeat.

Why does this place still exist?

>>51340573
Have you read the books?

>>51340573
Dont be like that, I like making stuff and appreciate comstructive xriticism

>>51340573
It's the triumph of hope and fun over douchebaggery and entitlement.

>>51340593
Someone constantly reeeeeing and using interjump balance to get their way, only to condescendingly say "Have you read the books?" as their excuse to be a dick isn't constructive.

>>51340573
If you don't like it then leave.

>>51340593
You yourself said you shouldn't have come back..

>>51340573
It happens every thread.

>>51338942
Are there any limitations on the immunities you get from drinking a god's blood?

>>51340573
If it's just a single person, post it once and upload it after to the drive.

>>51340614
>You yourself said you shouldn't have come back..
>improper use of ellipses
>You yourself
So not only are you shitposting, but you're shitposting with plebeian Tumblr'esq grammar. Holy shit, you're a disappointment.

>>51340611
I'll admit that I am REEEing a bit but my points are valid, and seriously have you read the books? because your response to my arguments seems to indicate a no.

>>51340616
It's fucking hilarious.

most jumpmakers you'd swear act like battered wives.

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>>51340671
>I'm shitposting, but I'm shitposting for a reason

>>51340625
Thats a hard one and the reason Im not offering god blood, iirc it only works once per god per immunity. And it only works on things that make you take damage directly after drinking it. Seems to be anything but if something is multy part like flame arrow would give partial flame and partial projectile. But not full immunity.

>>51340674
Maybe if anon weren't a violent, demanding alcoholic?

>>51340671
Whether you have a valid argument or not, being pissy and condescending to people will turn others against you. You can use logic all you want but if you're a dick, eventually it'll reach a point where people ignore whatever arguments you have just because you're being a massive cock to everyone.

Politeness makes you a lot more convincing and it makes those who go against you without a good argument a lot less sympathetic. Cutting down on the "Have you read the books" in response to criticism of your criticism and explaining why it should be that way instead would go lengths to helping.

>>51340120

Yes please

>>51340671
And there you go again, trying to use it to act like a dick.

If you weren't such an asshole about it maybe people wouldn't have a problem. See >>51340740, they explain it a lot better than I could.

>>51340671
>I'll admit that I am REEEing a bit but my points are valid, and seriously have you made a jump? because your response to my arguments seems to indicate a no.
See above.

>>51340788
Prolly a worse example, because that's how Bramastra always tries to avoid critique.

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>>51340269
Think of yourself less as the thread's recycling bin, and more as /jc/'s curse breaker. Unafraid of dark Meme Magic.

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>>51340671
Your tactics completely undermine your message. Consider seeking professional help with your aspergers.

>>51340788
>seriously have you made a jump?
Not him, but really? That's fucking retarded, anon.

>>51339971
Yeah, it's... weird. I had a discussion over there the other day about why everyone always wants to go for the same minmaxed builds. They basically said they felt it wasn't "in character" to not go for the optimal choice in their chain and if they didn't they were bound to get butt fucked by Nicol Bolas or something. They also said they mostly absolutely refuse to take risks in their chaisn.

Which I thought was incredibly boring, but if people have fun then I don't see what it hurts.

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So Jumpers, ever made OC companions that are supposed to be related to canon characters in jumps before?

>My main companion/waifu is Rose Truax, the twin sister of Elestagirl because I am not a home wrecker.

>>51340819
>>51340855
>That's fucking retarded, anon.
That's the point. His argument is retarded and the thread routinely shuts down that type of asinine reasoning.

>>51340868
well , technically, one of my companions is the descendent of a Canon character, Does that count?

>>51340881
He's saying "read the books" to someone calling him a powerwanker because they don't understand the setting. It's a valid argument on that front, if nothing else.

>>51340712
What I mean is can we use out of context attacks on ourselves (Baelfire, Skullduggery's Godkiller weapons), and gain those (full or multi-effect partial) immunities, or are we limited to in-game effects. Also, are the immunities degraded when fighting greater gods and such.

>>51340671
>I'm going to act like a asshole in order to get my reasonable argument across.

>Literally everything wrong with the BLM movement at the moment. Except even their reasonable arguments are usually trash.

>>51340916
No it's not, he's just using the phrase to shut down anyone who would dare question him. If he wanted to make a valid argument, he would explain what happens in the books instead of acting like we're not worthy of approaching his grand design.

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>>51339925

>>51340935
Oh fuck off already. I don't need to see political bullshit in /jc/ as well.

>>51340992
:^) TRUMP'S CABINET NOMINEES

>>51340865
I mean, I can kind of see why. Why would you take unnecessary risks just for the hell of it? You don't go playing in traffic drunk jest 'cuz it's fun, do you?

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>>51340935
I just realized that Bancho is more or less what you'd get if any BLM SJW became a Jumper, only with even more racism. I've never been more scared of what would happen if all this were real.

>>51340992
HILLARY'S SCHIZOPHRENIA OVER RUSSIAN CARTOON FROGS

>>51341091
>I just realized that Bancho is more or less what you'd get if any BLM SJW became a Jumper, only with even more racism. I've never been more scared of what would happen if all this were real.

what racism?

>>51341027
I mean, I'm kind of an adrenaline junkie, personally. So I've taken a lot of unnecessary risks just because I thought it would be fun.

I see their point, I just think it's pretty boring to never take risks.

>>51339925
With one drop of the formula the forest was able to use the *moon* as a source and bridge the distance to the earth multiple times. Now it has actual nutrients, water, and air. You would literally have to glass the planet to put the forest down, and even then it wouldn't be a guarantee.

If I was seriously going to kill the forest....I mean...I guess you could push the planet into the sun, but you would have to make sure it didn't jump to a passing comet or something.

The formula is one of the things that might make 40k worse.

>>51341091
You know the really horrifying part? He's improved. When he ran under the name of Tera he was exponentially worse, both in how he treated people and with his approach to jumps and jumping.

>>51340932
Well you have to first survive taking damage from whatever and the immuniry would probably be split into things in alterworld ad to if it would let yyou be immune to greater gods and such, well Im not offering it as a cp buy and if I did it would be a high cp item so I can only say fanwank something. I hate saying that, sorry.

If I see a good enough persuasive argument to add it I might, but at this time its not going in.

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So jumpers, tell me which settings you'd like to see as a jump. Personally I'd like to see the lfg webcomic and perhaps Destroy all humans. The darkness game series would also be interesting but I'm not sure how it'd be done.

>>51341091
...how?
I mean, fuck bancho, that commie fuck. but i don't think i've seen him do anything racist. Just autistic.

>>51341161
You don't remember the times he wanted to purge all the darkies or cleanse the middle east? That last one was what got him banned from the IRC finally.

>>51341160
Tmnt
Warlock in magus world
Reincarnator
Bringing the farm to another world
Otherworld diner

>>51341160
I've got a half-made WIP of Moon Hunters that I really need to get around to finishing at some point.

>>51341224
that wasn't a race thing that was a religion thing. There's a difference, hell my dad is black!

>>51341243
Are you really arguing that because you have minority ancestry that you can't be racist? Because it's only racist when white people do it, right?

>>51341243
Yeah, it's sooooo much better to kill someone for their religion instead of their skin colour. You're a regular old saint.

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>>51340868
My kids.

>>51341259
>>51341258
I am against genital mutilation and pedophilia. If something promotes genital mutilation and pedophilia. I feel it's okay to be against it That's all that is if I could change Islam So that They didn't do that anymore I would be cool with Islam.

>>51341259
Well, yeah. It is, actually.

You can't choose to be born a different race. You /can/ choose not to behead your daughter for disrespecting you or not to rape children.

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>>51341160
>pic related
A Buggerfall jump would also be awesome.

>>51341160
The Lazy King. The main character is a demon lord of sloth who sleeps all day, but the perspective focuses on a different character each chapter. The setting is in the demon world, where each demon has a differnt deadly sin. I definitely like the world, and also the characters. Pillow is the best!

>>51341289
Oh, I'm just mocking your rhetorical technique, man. I don't care about your position.

>>51340740
It is hard to respond to "criticism of my criticism" politly, other than the jumpmaker (and those expressing the same thing as you) the only people who have replied to anything I have said about the jump have said something to the tune of "fuck off power wanker" in a way that makes it sound like they no nothing about the setting. It is hard to respond politely to criticism when said criticism includes no arguments and is pretty much just an insult.

I have just responded "Have you read the book?" to people because they were throwing insults at me despite the fact that they have made no counterarguments due to probably not knowing the setting.

I have not gotten a single yes to any of the times I asked that question.

>>51340948
This is a good point but I would have to go through the books again, which could take a while and I really should be working on stuff for college. Instead of posting on 4chan.

The gist of my arguments is that the setting is a high power fantasy setting, one where you will by the end of it be very powerful if you actually decide to play the "game" (go on quests, raid dungeons, kill monsters and such). That said there is very little power in the options (other than the two dragons which should really be more expensive, I mean holy shit those things are powerful. Other than the Super Nova Castle and the Adamant weapon they are the best things available in the jump.)

The few options that are actual powers are very narrow, Astral Mana Dispersal (despite it's wonky description) is the only example the jump offers of the kinds of things found at the higher end of the setting and doesn't convey it particularly well.

I guess that is my biggest problem with the jump, it doesn't convey the setting very well. The introduction is the only real fluff you get and that is really only minimal background information, I would have thought that more fluff (and details about the game/setting) would be in the perks.

>>51341295
Those examples don't match up at all. What you should be saying is- You can't choose to be born a different race, you can choose to be in a different religion.

That's still wrong of course. Being born into a heavily religious family/community, especially one that punishes or ostracises those that disobey or leave it, is very difficult to leave and separate from. And Bancho was purging everyone who believed in that religion, regardless of whether they do the bad things associated with it or not.

>>51341289
Most people would probably switch religions very quickly if they saw a literal active god running around and influencing things in their lives directly, anyways.

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>>51341347
>Have you read the books, bro?
>Uhh, I can't remember anything specific from the books and I don't have time to research. You can totes trust me though.

>>51341347
Dragons are more expensive, the hen perk just gives a discount. I am trying to make the jump right but honestly I suck at fluff and flavor texts, I always have.

>>51341386
Yeah and another percentage would just go even further hardline and traditional art of fear that they and their ancestors were wrong all this time,with the background influencing perks I have"the star God's have returned" is pretty much the standard operating procedure for when my Jumper and his family had to a new setting

>>51341368
Only because of the difficulties involved in killing an idea,if there was a more peaceful solution. I would jump on it in a second!

>>51341347
>I would have to go through the books again, which could take a while and I really should be working on stuff for college.
You mean all this time you've been bitching at us to read books that you yourself won't even bother to look at again, insisting everything needs to be stronger because... you say so and we should trust you?


Are you real?

So that guy who said Bancho got better, I'd just like to point out how he's back to trying to justify a religious purge of millions and millions of people, despite having others explain countless times other ways to help.

Bancho/Tera is and always will be a psychopathic nutbag.

There's a way to talk about experiments in terms of genocide. Like, my jumper has killed all the black people in the world, to see what would happen.

Then again, I did the same thing with asians, whites, muslims, and jews. It came out about the way you would expect. But i don't TALK about it. Let alone parade it as some moral virtue.

>>51341368
You don't have to tell me. I was born I to a heavily religious Christian family. Not as bad as Islam generally is, but pretty fundamentalist. I left and to this day most of my family won't talk to me. But I don't regret it.

You have a choice. You always have a choice. But most religious people never sit down and think. They just willingly accept the brainwashing.

And Islam, and Christianity and Judaism if you actually read the damn books, are inherently terrible and incompatible with civilized society. The versions most Christians or Jews practice today I'd so watered down and far from the book that they'd all be deemed heretics or blasphemers based on their own Holy Words and should be killed based on their own laws and commandments. Anyone not being a violent extremist while practicing Islam is the same.

>>51341477
>Only because of the difficulties involved in killing an idea,if I wasnt too lazy to find a more peaceful solution. I would jump on it in a second!

Fix'd.

>>51341540
That's what we get for using religious texts that haven't been edited since the Iron Age. They tend to reflect much more bloodthirsty and hateful values than are modernly acceptable.

>>51341431
>>51341489
I haven't asked anyone to trust me, I have made arguments to the Jumpmaker (who obviously has read the books).

If someone makes any actual counter arguments I can easily go through them again to the relevant parts, or I can refresh myself on the details of the books overall tomorrow after I get my school shit done to give more detail to my arguments. Only apparently this is happening now, when I have no time.

. . . why the fuck am I still doing this I have shit I really need to be doing right now.

>>51341562
I am of course open to suggestions. I've considered erasing all memory of The religions in question with Omega level telepathy, but that still leaves the books and a lot of people missing a lot of time

>>51341584
Yeah but if you're editing your religious texts then your I admitting they're either not the Word of God or you're okay with ignoring the Word of God.

>>51341540
First, you're ignoring that the majority of the religion is not as bad as the most extreme examples. Everyone who believes in it is being purged, even those who are peaceful and want to work to fix it's problems.

Second, having a choice does not mean a choice that won't result in you dying or starving alone or being miserable for the rest of your life.


So what if they're watered down? That just means all the more that it's even more wrong to murder countless people who don't follow the original interpretations.

>>51341652
Or the humans who recorded it over the years recorded it incorrectly, wrote it erroneously, interpreted it wrongly, missed stuff, added stuff or any number of other interpretations as to why you believe a different thing.

>>51341593
Constantly refuting anyone with "Have you read the books?" and trying to shut down anyone who doesn't answer your question is asking us to trust you that you're totally legit despite not actually being able to give defined examples. You complain about how no one is knowing anything about the setting, but aside from "only these options are OP enough" you have not given any knowledge about the setting either. You just keep insisting you know what you're talking about and that we should listen to you. That's asking us to trust you.

You'll understand that without the proof to back up your claims, trust is an issue.

>>51341584
>>51341652
Guys. GUYS. This is bancho. Many have tried to help him before. He pushes away and ignores every single one of them. He's made entire crusades against namefags because he flew off the handle with things they've done, even complaining that projects he's blatantly stolen from other jumpers aren't powerful enough to make him Elder God Demonbane then spent 20+ threads whining about it. He'll even try to piss over those jumpers by claiming he can do their projects better than they can just because his lawyer degree will make him more clever about it.

>>51341519
>he's back to trying to justify a religious purge of millions and millions of people

This IS better.

>>51341160
Princess Tutu would be nice. I like how they managed to turn a lot of fairy tale tropes on their head, and I especially like that the main cast was fighting the author of their story in order to get a happy ending.

>>51341744
No, this was one of his worst moments. It's the exact thing that got him banned in the IRC. The difference is that he was almost this bad all the time, instead of only when it gets brought up.

>>51341160
Last of Us
Fallout 1&2
Rest of Fate (counting on you Val)
Nyaruko
KonoSuba
Channel Zero
Helck
Kumo Desu Ga
Re: Zero

>>51341702
What's the point of following a religion if you're going to ignore huge chubks of it?

>>51341725
Well then why did the all powerful God let that happen? And if the age of miracles and God intervening are gone, how can you know what the correct version is?

>>51341728
Bancho's a lawyer?

Huh.

>>51341652
Oh, I'm agnostic. I assume that nothing is the Word of God, because humans claiming absolute knowledge about the divine sounds way too arrogant for me to believe.

>>51341807
No, he has a degree. That doesn't make him an actual lawyer. He keeps trying to use it to justify his loopholes and his interpretations because he claims that's what that's how it makes him think.

>>51341775
Because religion is about belief and you don't need to believe in what everyone else does exactly to believe in something.

Free will is the most common answer. It's humans choices to do things and we bear the results from those choices. We don't know what the correct version is. You just have to have faith that what you believe is right. The problems arise when people decide others need to believe their version is right too.

Do you actually know anything about this except for the extremism bad stuff?

>>51341593
I had an idea for a free prrk that gave everyone a screen to show theit capabilities as stats as well as healthbars and damage calculators being imposed on those around you as part of perma perks but I couldnt figure out a way to word it that didnt seem op. Or useless since hp bar is standard during the jump.

>>51341728
Not him, but at least he's trying to help improve the jump itself. It feels like you are trying to attack his tone for no reason at all.

>>51341807
It explains so much, honestly.

>>51341728
okay, That was literally over a year agostop bringing it up

>>51341540
To be fair, in the case of Christianity a lot of the more violent laws of the Old Testament were overturned in the New Testament. Remember when that crowd wanted to stone a harlot, and Jesus said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."? That's a prett big change from how it was done.

>>51341593
>spoiler
Just don't worry about it, dude. Soon you'll get over the fact that the setting you like is only tangentially represented and that your opinion doesn't matter because you dared to criticize a jumpmaker. Then when they're long gone, you'll accept that's the best you're going to get.

It happened with FoZ, Bleach, Lost Odyssey, and it'll happen with this series. It's no big deal, man.

>>51341875
Keep the "show their abilities" part general and not too specific, and focus on the healthbar and damage calculation. They synergise well, and look like a good 300 or 400 CP perk.

>>51341925
Now you know how I feel about Bayonetta.

>>51341925
This isn't a hugbox, man. If you act like an asshole, you're going to get treated like one. If he was polite about it, I doubt anyone would have even blinked.

>>51341896
Your religious purging bit was over a year ago, yet you keep bringing it up.

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>>51341160
The Darkness and Witchblade.

...which would really be all one jump, as they're in the same setting.

Preferably, with a certain drawback/option for the Witchblade half so I could grab a certain Milfblade as a Companion.

>>51341160
I'd love to see some jumps for the Xanth and MythAdventures series. I feel like we need more whimsical jumps to offsit all the grimderp we have.

>>51341728
Fucking hell. . . I'll re post all my arguments again tomorrow with excerpts from the books to back them up. Would that be enough? Right now I have things to do that I needed to do yesterday.

>>51341875
Have the HP bar work as an indicator for how close you are to death post jump? Or maybe have it free in jump but require a purchase to keep?

>>51341896
So why are you still defending this shit?

>>51341925
No, mib opened Familiar of Zero up for others to work on, along with Code Geass. He still lays claim to Bleach, though.

>>51341954
I feel like anime Witchblade could be it's own jump honestly. It's only barely related to the comics.

>>51341904
In the case of Christianity it's also that the extremists go the fuck to jail if they don't mind the law.
Most countries with Christianity as a majority religion have seperated church and state centuries ago, so the church had to learn to mind their manners and toe the line.
Before that they were no different than Islamic extremists are today.

>>51341949
>this isn't a hugbox
Really, because you're making it feel like one. He didn't act like an asshole at all, but you still decided to take offense with how he worded his posts.

>>51341956
>I'll re post all my arguments again tomorrow with excerpts from the books to back them up. Would that be enough?
Actually yes, that would be enough. It'd really help us all understand what's going on instead, and thank you very much for that. I'll look forward to being proven wrong on things, so thank you. No, really. I will be. Actual evidence would be amazing to get some context.

>>51341948
Assuming this isn't bait, what's wrong with it?

>>51339925
Yeah there's such a thing as salty and capricious nature deities, and there's this one. I think even a hippie wouldn't want to hug those trees.

>>51341969
Dude look at the first reply. It's scatovore, don't feed.

>>51341593
If your issue is really a matter of conveying the setting and options, you should probably just accept it as it is. Not every jumpmaker focuses on that, and there are plenty of jumpmakers that can't make a jump with engaging fluff to save their lives. Different people like different paces. You're basically asking them to change their writing style for you.

>>51341967
I'm not defending the stuff from >>51341728
that was wrong of me and I was stupid and new and had worse medsthat really needed adjusting anyway

>>51342010
So why are you defending the mass genocide?

>>51341875
You could maybe have the HP bar be able to stack with other HP bar perks.

>>51342024
Because it's fun.

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>>51341997
>Assuming this isn't bait

>>51341954
Anyone remember that one live-action series where the Witchblade was just a regular suit of armor? Like, I get that they couldn't do the stripperific armor for decency standards reasons, but couldn't they at least make it look organic? Was their costume budget that small?

>>51342037
>>51341956
>>51341944
Not bad ideas, I will work it in.

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So bancho is a mixbreed communist jew

jesus

>>51342024
because if A group institutionalizes something evil It is an evil group and it is a good to destroy evil groups? I feel like I'm missing something

>>51342052
>Was their costume budget that small?

Even that isn't justification. I mean look at Kamen Rider - they usually have abysmal budgeting, and yet still make ridiculous shit with it.

>>51341896

Bancho you might want to leave the thread or post without your trip for a while. Things are heated

>>51341865
Yes I do. But I've studied history. Religion is a net negative for the world.

>>51341994
Except that's not true? Only a few groups ever did that. Witch burning, for example, was something the Catholic and Orthodox Churchs thought was stupid.

>>51341949
Nice double standards, there. People act like assholes all the time, and it's not about "talk shit, get hit", it's more that if someone does something that doesn't fit your narrative then it's fine to treat them like dirt.

>>51342002
Fuck you. You're poison to this community.

>hurr durr look at the first reply

Right? Because it's okay to dismiss sweep someone under the rug just because the shitposter, who is known to springboard off of everything jumped onto it? No, people like you will be just as responsible for our demise as he is. Because of you, he can cause chaos and discord without even being in a thread.

>>51342071
So it's good to kill you?

>>51342078
noted

>>51342068
/po/ was right again.

>>51341904
Jesus also said
>Not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

>>51342052
I remember that show, the villain wasn't half-bad at all. Things kind of started to go downhill when he got speared in the throat, but it had a good run.

>>51342049
You never know anon, for all we know it could be some actual issues instead of "waaaaaah I want more power"

>>51342081
One, you must have been an idiot student then, two, just because something happened in the past does not mean it will happen in the present or future.

>>51342081
This is false. A great amount of knowledge was saved by the Church during the Dark Ages, after the Western Roman Empire collapsed due to corruption and lazyness.

>>51342109
The Law wasn't changed. However, unless you were without sin, you could not enforce or engage in said law.

>>51340865
I understand playing like that your first few jumps, but after a while you get to the point where you don't NEED an optimal build to thrive, so you should just go for what's fun.

>>51342084
Ever hear of the crusades? The inquisition?
That's not just "a few groups". The Catholic Church has their fair share of blood on their hands.
Inquisitions still took place until the end of the 18th century iirc, and they weren't all that concerned with pesky things like the truth when rooting out heretics.

>>51342143
>A great amount of knowledge was saved by the Church during the Dark Ages
To be fair, most of that knowledge only needed to be preserved because of the (Christian) anti-intellectual sentiments that pushed scholars and knowledge out of the Mediterranean and into the Middle East, and then out of the Middle East as the Muslim Renaissance ended with the burning of mathematical and astronomical treaties.

>>51342061
Dude why do you keep trying? Just give it up already.

>>51342081
You should ask for a refound.

>>51341386
That's my plan desu. Radical islam would become a minor cult at best when someone pops in and starts performing miracles. Claims of miracles were enough to get everyone to switch to those religions in the first place, an actual fucking god should work even faster.

>>51342115
Religion is packaged morality and (to a lesser extent) science. It was good when we were starting out and had yet to really get off our feet, but we've long since outgrown it.

>>51342168
You know that Christians translated Muslisms works and translations, don't you?

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>>51342115
Religion has caused massive amounts of suffering and actively inhibited societal and scientific growth. It's definitely a net negative.

It doesn't mean it will, but it's likely. Sure, it could suddenly turn society into a utopia, but history is not pointing toward that being likely.

>>51342143
Fair enough. Too bad no one follows that.

>>51342177
How am I wrong?

>>51342171
Cause I want this to be good. I want things baded in canon but still fun. Im trying so I can do this right

>>51341160
Guild Wars 2 would be a fun one, I think. If I ever wanted to throw mat hat into making jumps, I think I'd start with that.

>It's a two-in-one philosophy AND religion argument

See ya'll next thread.

>>51342211
Of course they did. Most of the original Greek and Latin works were either lost or translated during the Muslim Renaissance before it ended.

>>51342224
That anon is attacking you for the sake of attacking you, ignore the fucker. I'm looking forward to seeing how the jump turns out.

>>51342153
I've heard of both, and I don't deny that the Catholic Church has its own sins. However, the Crusades happened because the Muslim rulers of the Holy Land refused to allow Christian Pilgrims to enter, and either drove them off or killed them. The two sides had gotten along before because Christian pilgrims could enter, but now that had changed. The Crudades were about retaking land from a blatantly hostile power that had already killed members of their own group. The Inquisition was due to the fact that there had already been war with Protestant and Muslim powers, as well as corruption in both the Church and State. Innocents were killed, yes, true, but comparing that to Radical Islam is ridiculous.

>>51342146
I think it's the opposite, desu. Get your shit together for a few minutes to get what you need, and then have fun in the jump. I mean, c'mon, who the fuck needs specific perks to have fun?

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>>51342262
You know the worst part?

I'm now craving french toast again and I didn't feel like cooking this morning. Damn it, /jc/!

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>>51342171
>>51342275
Stop trying to chase away another jumpmaker, Timmy.

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>>51341160
Mignolaverse

>>51341540
Jesus was a good guy. You can't really blame someone who taught non-violence, forgiveness, and brotherhood to everybody just because people became dicks once they managed to seize the Roman Empire.

>>51342291
holy crap bro

i just finished my french toast

>steps away for a moment to eat lunch
>debate about religion & history ensues
Crusades jump when?

Why jumpchain of all things is talking about earth standard religious bullshit is beyond me. It's a memetic. If you don't like it, whip up a counter memetic, or go back in time and start a counter memetic organization. Whatever. You won't even be on a standard earth most of the time. None of this is even tied to a specific jump. Stop shitposting.

>>51341702
>Everyone who believes in it is being purged, even those who are peaceful and want to work to fix it's problems.
That doesn't really work for Islam. The moderates are always the 'don't actively get involved in the killing and rape but don't bother to stop it either' type.

>>51342341
Pretty sure Cenanon was working on a Crusader Kings jump.

>>51342279
Crusades also were about getting rid of third sons.

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>>51342330
WHY IS FRENCH TOAST LINKED TO STUPID /JC/ ARGUMENTS

WHAT IS THE SECRET

>>51342219
>>51342262
Hey, leave the poor boy alone. He needs to get some use out of his cardboard box degree.

>>51342368
>WHAT IS THE SECRET

Bodacious Babes

>>51342361
Well yeah. All these nobles and kings and knights didn't want their reputation soured, so...hey, I'm not saying the guys participating weren't huge dicks, because a lot of them were.

>>51342342
My solution is simple: Become god myself.
I have the perks to hear and answer prayers (thank you, Innistrad).
I get power from worship (Master of Magic, Exalted Sidereals, Actraiser) that i can then use to further improve the lives of my people (Master of Magic spells again, white + green are really good at that).
I can design rituals that actually help my worshippers without me having to do shit.
Just being faithful to me already improves health (Civilization).
People can even call on me directly or get one of my avatars if necessary (Generic Creepypasta).
Any statues of me in my temples simultaneously function to defend the settlements around them (Actraiser again).

I'd say i'm a much better god than all the others with that, even if i never lift a finger to do anything personally.

>>51341652
That's actually only an issue for Islam.

See, with Islam the idea is that Gabriel, I think it was Gabriel, came down, accosted Mohammed, and literally dictated to him exactly what to write. That's why those people who claim that the only way to read the Koran is in Islamic are actually correct. The words given to Mohammed by Gabriel were the no shit dictated words of God. So if you deviate from that in any way, yes you're messing with the Word of God.

Now, with the Christian Bible that's not the case at all. The Christian Bible has many authors who were said to be /inspired/ by the Holy Spirit, ie God. That's why the Gospels all sound different: each of the authors was a different person, with different life experiences, writing for different reasons to a different audience. So you can translate it without any problem so long as you're faithful to the original meaning. You can also make the case that parts of it are open to interpretation due to the fact that the actual authors were people with their own biases, etc. This side-steps the obnoxious pedantry of inerrancy vs. infallibility, but that's largely, though not exclusively, an American sport.

The Torah is similar to the Bible with respect to inspired by / authored by.

So your argument doesn't really fly, but I get why you make it. That's a common meme tossed around about religious texts.

>>51341980
Probably.

The only downside would be the lack of male options for said jump.

>>51342439
I thought you had to possess the statues from Actraiser.

>>51342404
To be fair, popular crusades were full of dicks. Knight crusades weren't so bad.

>>51342368
>>51342394
I was going to make a joke by posting an anthropomorphic french toast girl, but I couldn't find anything. Rule34 has failed!

>>51342474
This is true.

>>51342279
I will never not be salty that Richard the Lion Hearted's sister refused to marry Saladin's cousin. I mean, I get it lady, marrying some heretic sucks. But when you're a noble, you're as much a public servant as you are a person. Saladin was generally a balanced guy, if this alliance had been finalized then not only would there be a strong Christian kingdom and presence in the Holy Land still, and it would've been aligned and allied with Saladin and his successors. A friendly Middle East with some degree of Christian/Muslim alliance would've done nothing but good for both religions.

It's a credit to Saladin's character that even after whooping Richard's ass once that deal fell through, he got together with Richard and made a deal that Christian pilgrims would be allowed to go to Jerusalem and other holy sites without assault (and I guess it speaks well of Richard that he can put aside his pride enough to settle on such a deal.)

>>51342482
Just look for Adventure Time fanart of Breakfast Princess or other Breakfast People. It's close enough.

>>51342468
I use Avatars (Generic Creepypasta) for that, so i don't have to do it myself. They can have any powers you have, but all the avatars you have can't exceed you in power. Usually not a problem though, i have a lot of power.
I'm a lazy god, sue me.

>>51342238
It's probably best not to pick a MMO to make your first jump from.

>>51341954
>Witchblade
Would. Jump. The fuck. Out of.

>>51341980
Yup.

>>51342464
Eh, kinda but not really. You can either just go by the material, which will cause grief but other jumps have done. Or you can give a jumpchain-fiat waiver, and give male options. Plenty of jumps have done that, too.

I get what you're saying though.

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>>51342238
>Guild Wars 2
Norns a best. A BEST.

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[Arsene Lupin]

Drawbacks: Herlock Sholmes, The Great War

Rolled Hamburg, Germany

Phantom Thief

The Ace (Free)
Prince of Romance (900)
Master of Disguise (700)
Kaito (400)
Look Into The Soul (0)
Gentleman Thief's Attire (Free)

I've...never actually read a Maurice Leblanc novel. Are they anything like Tintin? I'm getting a Tintin vibe here.

Um. Anyway, I'm not exactly in need of anything that can be stolen from this time period so. Uh. I guess I'll have to figure out something else to keep me occupied? Maybe "steal" the position of police commisioner for irony points. Honestly, I haven't been a thief for a while, I usually just socially engineer other folks into doing that.

Wait.

Wait, I know! I'LL STEAL AUSTRIA-HUNGARY, and with it the possibility of the First World War! Sidereal Charms, activate!

Also I should probably check to see if this Lupin fellow ever marries anyone named Sandiego.

>>51338573
...unfortunately my wifi's so borked I'm not sure it'll hold up long enough to desrcribe what I did to the MCs that really crossed me, so uh.

That one Kamen Rider guy? The one from the one with the really fast alien bugs?

I was basically his Zoom, mainly because I was trying to get someone more qualified than him prepped with the speed gear he was going to snatch. So as I am wont to do, I began a campaign of gaslighting prank wars to convince him to skip town.

I laid the banana peel at his feet.

I denied him that promotion he would've gotten.

I retroactively put a Subway sandwich on his subway seat.

I shit his pants.

>>51342194
If we'd outgrown it then people wouldn't still flock to it. I wish we could do without, but the fact that a good portion of the masses still need spirituality means they we can't, and thus our best option is to see to it that the religion they most turn to is one that works well with our society and teaches good morals.

>>51341160
Left4Dead
Crysis
Improbable Island

>>51342547
>Nordic amazon
Your logic is sound

>>51342224
>>51342275
Ok then just to put this out there as a still needs work perk how does this sound?

Welcome to Alterworld! (Free or 300 cp to keep after jump)
You have your first steps into Alterworld, things work a bit differently here. Injuries and damage is calculated according to how deadly something would be to you then asdigned a numerical amount of damage which is then taken out of your overall life total as shown on your health bar (which you can toggle in your view) barring certain injuries (called debuffs) you will not be inconvenienced by injuries again and will only die when your health bar reaches 0. Another bonus to this is should you concentrate this will allow you to see how dangerous others are as it assigns them an estimated level of strength, health, and injuries.

>>51342474
Poor Children's Crusade.

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>>51342534
It's kind of funny, really.

I mean, it's been a while since I watched the anime, but the various male monsters were derived from study of the Witchblade and resulted in them transforming into these bio-mecha... things with no relation to the human form.

Whereas the female-derived artificial Witchblade versions resulted in
>pic related
barring the redhead Milfblade who's the real deal.

>>51342534
>give male options
The Warlockblade.

The Wizardsaber.

The Ddagger.

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>>51342583
Did I mention they're on average about 7'11" tall with the upper end being 8'4"? Because they are. It's also super hot when you're in a group and you're towering over everyone else.

>>51342518
Tell me about it. I mean, an alliance between Christianity and Islam in the Middle East would have prevented a number of tragedies that have happened since then, as well as helped the two religions understand each other. Plus, then the Fourth Crusade, which went rogue and sacked Constantinople, wouldn't have happened. Relations between the Catholic and Orthodox Churchs would have remained good.

Yeah, Saladin was a good man, or least as good of person as he could afford to be. And to his credit, it would take a great deal of strength for Richard to swallow his pride like that.

>>51342463
>I think it was Gabriel
It's Gabriel. Arabic name is Jibril.

>>51342534
Almost tempted to try it. I won't, got both my WIP slots filled at the moment, but damn am I fond of Witchblade. At least, the anime anyway, mediocre as it really is. Loved the Darkness comic but the Witchblade side never interested me and what actually counts as part of the Darkness is complicated cause it's big and sprawling. Sarah's just not that exciting.

>>51341160
This is somewhat ironic, as most of the jumps I want - or at least, the one's off the top of my head - I have a half finished WIP for.

I should work on those.

>>51342622
The Bonesword?

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>>51342641
Thanks man, it's been a while since I plowed through comparative religions so it's good to know I got that right at least.

>>51342584
Looks good to me famdesu.

>>51342622
Male options could just be the darkness. Or just have male jumper be like one of the few males who have used the Witchblade "because having male character X use it would be cool so we make plot hole/exeption".

There have been a few men who used the Witchblade.

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>>51342622
Obligitory

>>51342635
This really needs to be a jump, asap.

>>51342646
When you get around to updating extra, will it follow the same rules for servants as the new fsn jump? That is to say, that you'll lose all your cp and get sp instead, so the old tactic of dumping all your cp in and building a 2000 sp servant is no longer feasible?

>>51342659
Bonersword. It's like your not even trying.

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>>51342659
The HyperWeapon.

>>51342702
Well it shouldn't be TOO obvious, now should it- Oh wait.

>>51342702
It will yes.

>>51342635
I know I'm in the minority here, but I like the Asura. There's just something about their ears and size.

>>51342689
If you really want some fun, check out female Norn Elementalists. Imagine a stereotypical meguca's attire, something that has one foot in floofy pretty and one foot in full stop sexy. Now put that outfit on a 8 foot tall, muscular/athletic woman and give her a don't even think about fucking with me expression and voice.

Then have her go fuck up giants, bears, giant bears, and the like for fun.

That's the joy of playing a female Norn Elementalist.

>>51342702
I'm going to assume _somebody_ was frustrated with the builds that came out after Fate/Extra's release.

>>51342669
If I remember right at least in the comics there was one male Witchblade wielder. Before they retconned him into being just in possession of half of it. Excalibur I think.

>>51342773
When I played one of my regular partners was a Asura Engineer. It was a fun pairing. We both enjoyed the size disparity.

>>51342757
...shit.

>>51342757
There you go again retroactively ruining builds.

>>51342826
You get a master companion for free that has 1000CP which you can have then convert to SP if you like. Just like the FSN jump. Please read.

>>51342847
You're an idiot.

>>51341954
>...which would really be all one jump, as they're in the same setting.
Not sure if you are trolling or shit posting for lolz.
Same setting is not a good reason to bolt separate series into one jump.
Which is why we don't usually. Like the Marvel and DC jumps, the Exalted jumps, the Magical Index and Scientific Railgun jumps, etc.

>>51342773
They're certainly creepier than the usual loli catgirl race you get in mmorpgs.

>>51342757
Okay, this is likely a reading comprehension fail on my part and if it is I apologize. In the new Fate jump, can you not convert CP into SP to donate to a Servant?

>>51342847
Oh, shut up. As long as val adds in a new drawback or two of each rank, i'll be fine.

>>51342856
I retract my question: >>51342871 Sorry for bothering.

>>51342238
It'd be great but very hard to do well.

I think it's been attempted before but never finished which is a shame because:

>>51342547

among other things.

>>51342871
You can't convert CP gained as a Pseudo-Servant back into SP. That's literally it.

>>51342871
You can yes. Please look at the Stronger Servant option.

>>51342883
No worries.

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>>51341160
Touhou PC-98
Murcielago
EVE
Magic: The Gathering - Urza's Saga, Mirrodin, and Kamigawa
Touhou PC-98
Kumo Desu Ga, Nani Ka
Helck
Touhou PC-98

>>51342238
Please do.
I could use another Fantasy setting that isn't ridiculous on the powerlevel scale.

>>51342646
The most I've gotten into the Darkness side is with the first-person shooter game. Which is funny, cause that game goes SERIOUSLY heavy into the lore, holy shit.

Pretty fun, really. Way too short. There's just something satisfying about ripping a guy's spine out and re-fashioning it into a shield of eldritch darkness.

>>51342906
>not wanting power for cheap CP.

>>51342909
Oh, the games were really fun. The first was definitely more of it's own thing then the second, which was way more like the comics, but they're both old favourites.

I still love the first games version of hell. So freaky.

Resident evil virus to turn every woman into an amazon who can control how buff she is. Has no effect on anyone who isn't a woman who will be turned into an amazon.

Infection method choice (50)
Mental clarity (200)
Bulked up (200)
Null and Void (200)
Common trait female (50)
Adonis (200)

With 100 left over either for Changing Mass if you want to give them even more control over their buffness or some other feature.