Warhammer 40,000 general

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This thread could do with some bingo! Current free tile is just the center, because I'm feeling like a lazy bastard. Also the tiles up for changing tonight are
> "Cataphractii Bikes"
> Magnus the Red
> Johnny(I'm so sorry)

>>51284927
FMC aren't MC is old and needs the boot

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>>51284792
Sounds like you're looking for a Fist of Khorne.

Reminder that Fall of Cadia gives Tau Commanders 14 more relics per model.

>>51284940
I can agree with that. Also I'm going to replace one of the tiles with
> WORD SALAD
Seeingleez eas ceeaaareent meaaem

>>51284945
Just because you can take as many signature systems as you want doesn't mean you can take as many of the extra relics as you want.

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>$60
Maybe I'll stock up on Reavers.

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Okay latest revisions based on feedback.

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>>51284964
>Celestine/Cawl rules simply signify the ability to purchase relic-equivalents
>Tau Crisis Commanders have no limit on purchasable relic-equivalents

>>51284828
No, you're not understanding
Imagine a squad of Riptides deep striking deep into the heart of enemy lines, a trio of giant mechs each able to square up to a smaller Titan using their jetpacks to descend onto the battlefield.
By pure chance, there happens to be a single, lone Conscript wandering where one of the Riptides has happened to drift towards. Maybe he's on a coffee break away from the trenches.
The second the leg of one of the hundred-ton Riptides brushes against the loosely-fitted helmet of the oblivious Conscript, the machine VIOLENTLY EXPLODES, disintegrating into a fine mist of metal and blood as the entire battlesuit and the crew within is instantly vaporized.
In the distance, the other two Riptides meet a similar fate despite landing perfectly on clear ground, the symphony of pointless explosions giving Khorne a semi in the distant warp as over 700 points of units disappear without a trace.
The Conscript continues drinking his coffee, not having noticed a thing.

Meanwhile the same Conscript can fucking pirouette out the way of a Tank Shocking skimmer going twice the speed of sound without a fucking scratch.

Magma Cutters versus Lasher Tendrils on Maulerfiends?

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Show me your games and army pics /tg/!!
What are you anons up to right now?

Took this at the end of a 3000pt game. I barely tied in kill points against Faggot the Despoiler and his Lord of Skulls everything is a D weapon bullshit.

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>>51284927
I have made some changes. There's now a few free tiles available for new thread memes.

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daily reminder that failbaddon got his ass and spine handed by 2 humans and Big-E own version of a Daemon Princess, which is sailor moon during the series finale

and that failbaddon is now on a wheelchair

>>51285032
The Emperor Protects, you filthy fucking xenos sympathizer

>>51284792
>>The entire Deep Striking unit has a 16% chance of dying instantly
>>Doesn't matter that you're deep striking a Drop Pod or squad of 10 Crisis Suits
in what world do pods have a chance of dying instantly? their drop pods, unless they scatter off the table they're fine.

>>51285032
Because then you end up deliberately deep striking on units in order to kill them.

>>51284986
>tfw no cash
>tfw have an NiB AoS Start Collecting that I'm trying to sell
>tfw no one has made an offer

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>>51285032
>expecting less from the Emperor's finest
Oh, ye of little faith.

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>>51284878
>>51285056

and to add more salt on his wounds, the big 4 are probably choosing his next replacement

>>51285117
>AoS
You fell for the "it's actually fun guys!" Meme, eh?

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>>51285048
Oh hey, you just inspired me to put up another tile. Maybe I'll put less shitposting in this bingo and more positive discussion things.

>>51284927
Instead of Bitching about Magnus it could be "Arguing over Castellan formation" or something

>>51285117

Which one anon?

>>51285160
Why no GGA in the bingo?

>>51285032
It's intentionally doing that way to avoid weaponizing standard deep strike. It's one of many rules in the game that are not providing a realistic simulation of what they represent, but at abstracted for expediency in game.

Also thought the mishap was "caused" by the conscript, the narrative abstraction would suggest that their mishap is actually the result of distant AA fire or something similar.

>>51285156
No. I got it for free from a contest, but my group doesn't want to start AoS.

>>51285171
Skeleton Horde.

>>51285079
>Meanwhile the same Conscript can fucking pirouette out the way of a Tank Shocking skimmer going twice the speed of sound without a fucking scratch.
If your units can easily dodge a skimmer bursting out from behind cover at supersonic speeds, then there's no reason they can't sidestep the 50-meter tall Titan jetpacking onto the battlefield.

The problem here isn't that the Conscript is fine. The issue is that an entire unit of units all instantly died, just because one of them landed an inch away from the dude with a t-shirt.

Seriously, think of the implications here
>A lord-general has recently received a medal for developing a new unbeatable strategy against the deep-striking Xenos forces: by spreading out the Conscripts in his charge across the battlefield, each of them standing exactly five feet apart, all xenos arriving from orbit instantly explode upon reaching the battlefield. Other planets are now incorporating the so-called Conscript Relay into their defenses, the planetwide grid of soldiers forming an unbreakable defense against landing parties.

>>51285164
That's already there, it's basically List Disaster/People getting rules wrong

>>51285187
Except then you need a whole subsystem that checks how different units interact with each other from deep strike.

>>51285187
This often happens when you are performing tabletop abstractions. Wraithknights cannot step over conscripts to hit the land raiders behind them. AA weapons cannot fire at riptides entering from the atmosphere. That's just how the rules work.

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>>51285176
What's GGA?...

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>>51285187
You in the white.

>>51285207
Grey-Guard Anon. The dude who always posts his games and asks people about what they're doing. Was posting his bat-rep against an annoying chaos player last thread.

>>51285176
He's got a friendly nod from the "someone covers the thread in batreps..." tile.

>>51285207
What the? Grey Guard Annon? You don't know about him?

>>51285207
Grey Guard Anon

>>51285207
Do you think we should put Maulerfiends onto the bingo card?

>>51285210
Oh yeah I remember that. Guy had a army based around walking on the board on his turn 1 from reserves so he could counter deploy on the fly. But his opponent could set up within 24" of his guys on that mission and since he had 0 guys on the board he just filled the table edge with his bikers. The other guys troops couldn't arrive and thus he was tabled on turn 1 before even getting a turn. He hoped the judge would rule that he had to be allowed to get his guys on the board. Ref said he was screwed because he chose to not deploy anything his turn to set up.

>>51285268
Probably not, they're not really meme material enough like the insane amount of butthurt against Riptides and other giant mecha. They're just a mediocre unit that occasionally gets complained about on /tg/.

I'm adding Leviathan Dreadnoughts though, seeing as they occupy a neat little niche in the board meta, since every time someone posts one, it invokes a storm of people DOOMPOSTING with their own leviathans. Which by the way, I now want to have a picture of a Leviathan to go underneath the text, preferably one with a nice mugshot. I'm not using Raptors Anon's leviathan because it has fuzz on it, so maybe I'll go for either someone else's, or an official artwork.

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>>51285336
Forgot the picture.

>>51285032
THE EMPEROR PROTECTS, ALWAYS.

>>51285348
Oh right, I forgot FAQ butthurt was on there. That's pretty much the whole point of the Maulerfiends thing

RAVENGUARD/RAPTORS/INQUISITION 2000pts

**PINON BATTLE COMPANY** (760)

Captain-(200)
-chapter master, jump pack, swiftstrike and murder

Tactical Squad-(80)
-melta

Tactical Squad-(80)
-melta

Tactical Squad-(80)
-melta

Assault Squad x9-(126)

Devestator squad-(135)
-4 missle launcher, armorium cherub

Scout squad-(59)
-4 sniper

**SHADOWSTRIKE KILL TEAM** (440)

Scout Squad-(65)
-camo cloaks

Scout Squad-(65)
-camo cloaks

Vanguard Veteran Squad-(155)
-jump packs, 4 power weapon, 1 stormshield, 1 powerfist

Vanguard Veteran Squad-(155)
-jump packs, 4 power weapon, 1 stormshield, 1 powerfist

**SKYHAMMER ORBITAL STRIKE FORCE** (415)

Tactical Squad-(85)
-plasma gun
Drop Pod-(35)

Tactical Squad-(85)
-plasma gun
Drop Pod-(35)

Tactical Squad-(85)
-plasma gun
Drop Pod-(35)

Land Speeder-(55)
-multi melta

**COMBINED ARMS DETACHMENT** (285)

HQ
Lias Issodon-(175)

TR
Scout Squad-(55)

Scout Squad-(55)

**INQUISITIONAL DETACHMENT** (100)

HQ
Inquisitor Coteaz-(100)

>for the 2 anons from last thread, thanks. made a change or 2. changed allied to CAD and swapped dig weapons (thought it was re-roll to hit) with multi melta on landspeeder. 82 infantry models, hope I dont fight tau

>>51285268
>>51285336
I just want to know whether I should give them magma cutters or not.

>>51285357
>tfw no maulerfiend buff

I kinda want to start collecting Tau. im making a 1000pt list, how would you deck out your riptides and stormsurges? SO many more gun options than im used too

Who
>depressed due to lack of painting skill every time they see something decent
in here?

Some of the stuff I've seen at my local workshop is gorgeous

>>51285384
>1000 pts
>Riptides and Stormsurges

Here's your (You)

>>51285376
They're already S10, right? I mean melta is nice but I dont think its necessary, the lashes are much better as they will help when hitting shit that isnt tanks, like walkers and MCs.

>>51285385
>tfw no LGS
>rain all month
>bunch of unprimed models
>sadness

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>>51285048

Fought my first game against Tzeentch demons. We played at 1250 points and did the gametype where you generate tactical objectives based on the number of objectives you control.

Two big things stood out to me:

1. This unit of screemers had some sort of shenanigans with a book that gave them a 2+ rerollable invulnerable save. I couldn't do a thing till turn 5 when he failed the book roll (which had a reroll) and my robots were able to march in and punch faces. I got lucky, but by that point they wiped out so much it was the end of the game anyway.

2. I can't kill pink horrors with shooting attacks. They took two objecives and split and split and split. It was rough.

Overall, the guy was nice and it was an interesting game. I learned a lot about the army and will know what to do next time.

>>51285384
nice bait bro. I laughed pretty hard though.

I'm a farsight enclave player and feel like I am pretty good at holding back the cheese. Only 1 riptide (mostly for deepstrikers) and then 14 crisis suits and farsight to fuck shit up.

MECHS ALL OF THE MECHS

>>51285385
Just depressed, I actually paint OK table top quality, I just lack the motivation to do so.

>>51285398
Yeah, but they're only 4A on the charge though.

>>51285408
YES!!! Anon I'm so happy someone else has the same bases as me. That's frigging great. Anymore pics?

>>51285406
Grab paint-on primer. It's helpful for those emergency situations.

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>>51285406
Meanwhile, at my LGS

>>51285408
>Tzeentch Daemons
>nice guy
pick one

>>51285408
>Tzeentch Daemons
Man. Fuck Daemons in general. They do so much shit every phase.

>>51284878
>just deciding to get into the hobby for real
>choosing imperial guard because normal unaugmented dudes going up against all sorts of alien and demon shit is badass as fuck
>hey man these kasrkin models look pretty cool
>out of production

Kill me now. Am I really going to have to buy those forge world respirator models so I can avoid the horror of painting faces and eyes?

Also is this whole fall of cadia shit going to affect the models GW is going to put out in the near future?

>>51285434
But would you fuck it?

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>>51285376
> tfw my buddy makes me roll my Deredeo as having 3 attacks base
> tfw it's still hilariously shit in melee
> mfw I charge a 30-man blob of ork boyz with my Deredeo, and they don't have any Power Klaws
> mfw the entire squad got sweeping advanced off of the board by a dreadnought with ap- melee and only 3 attacks.

>>51285393
Im being serious. comeptitive meta. thinking one of each but possible 2 riptides and a stormsurge if i can fit it.

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>>51285442
>tfw only move fast and deny on 4+

>>51285385
I try to avoid worrying about it an just focus on getting something that's not too thick or messy while being a neat or colorful scheme.

If it looks fine from 6 or more inches away, I'm happy with it, as during play I don't typically make a habit of holding my or my opponent's models directly next to my face where any imperfections are noticeable.

>>51285434
FUCK, I RECOGNIZE THAT GEEDUBS, AND THAT COPY OF DEFF SQWADRON, AND THAT MAGNUS.

Either this is a strange fucking coincedence, or you're from jacksonville too.

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>>51285424

Not of the battle, but here is the army I ran during that game. Note that some of the models aren't done being painted yet in this photo.

>>51285448
You could go for Scions and Stormtroopers, as they have closed helmets. That pretty much locks you into going for Veterans in Chimeras though.

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>>51285474

Why do my photos keep going sideways? Fuck sorry.

>>51285464
Fuck these dogs so fucking hard. 30 quid for a minimum sized unit and you need a dickload to play a decent khorne daemonkin list

>>51285471
I keep making the mistake of looking at my stuff up close and under harsh lighting.

>>51285472
Nah this GW is in bongland

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>>51285385
I usually paint to a tabletop quality. Most of my generic troops I just paint to look okay at arm's length. Heroes/characters I'll focus a little more on, but they're still not the best.

I just focus on getting better with each model and I can see the slow progress.

Seeing something painted great just gives me a bigger push to get better.

>>51285474
You hire the Dragon Ball Z Camera Man for this battle Annon?

>>51285448
Never paint the eyes. Just agrax the face so that the eye sockets are shadowed. You and your opponent will be viewing these units from 3 feet above so its literally unnoticeable.

As for model changes they are unlikely. First because changing the look of Cadians means changing the sprues for the Leman Russ, Chimera, and all the Artillery. That costs money and is hardly worth the time. At best, expect a slightly more detailed version of the current stock.

How much do you guys fluff out your armies? Have any of you fully written out a background description to explain why your army does what it does, or why they use certain formations over others?

>>51285501
those better not be yours if you're saying they're just "okay"

>>51285497
Bloodcrushers trigger me to no end. They don't fucking die.

>>51284878
Someone explain to me why are the Eldar getting renamed.

>>51284943

Is the page implying that the assault claw drop pod is going to get a plastic release?

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>>51285501

>>51285472
>Jacksonville
the gw run by that short fat guy?

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>>51285032
>Pirouette

>>51285472
DUUUUUDE I'm in Jacksonville though. My nigga.

>>51285048

Oh god he's back

>>51285501
If those are yours they aren't
>okay

Okay is doing a base coat, staying in the lines, and then hitting it with a wash and calling it a day.

>>51285485
They're still putting out stormtroopers? The scions are the only ones I'm seeing available right now from geedubs.

>>51285503
That's probably what I would've done for whatever models I got that didn't have helmets but I just prefer models with helmets in general. Plus the fact that I like the more armored looking guys instead of the uniformed ones that pretty much locks me into getting either cadians or elysians.

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With some of the talk of painting, I was wondering if I could get some thoughts on a color scheme for a small marine force I'm working on.

The paint job doesn't show up best with my potato camera, but it's essentially layers of Lamenter's yellow over a metallic base coat for a metallic yellow look, without being outright gold.

Looking at it more closely, I see some spots I'll have to go over for detail work. I also haven't done the shoulders, highlights, or any washes yet, as I want to be sure in the general scheme before I go too far.

>>51285542
Oh god that guy who actually plays, paints, and talks about games is back!

However will the general handle the influx of actual hobbying?

>>51285048
>complaining about a Lord of Skulls
>complaining about a Lord of Skulls in a 3000 point game
Are you retarded? Like actually, clinically retarded?

Any of you from Houston?

>>51285536
> Short fat guy
Bruh, rod's a cool motherfucker who speaks like 5 different languages. I don't even know how many he actually speaks, but I've personally witnessed him speaking french, german, spanish, and sign language.

And plus all of the explosion noises and entheusiasm when he's giving demos for newcomers is a great backdrop for when I'm painting.

>>51285512
I do so to a good extent. I don't write a fully lineage of all their past battles and history, no, but I do have such background details to explain the composition of their force, the strategies they use in battle, and preference for certain units or color scheme.

If I take a formation, can I only take models in said formation (ie give a unit a dedicated transport)

>>51285524
I thought Bloodcrushers were bad?

>>51285526
GW copyright on Eldar expired, and they can't reasonably defend their use of it due to it being prolific in other media, most notably Tolkien.

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>>51285474
Here's a pic of my battleline in my pic.

>>51285589
Models in formations can take dedicated transports if they have the option and nothing in the formation forbids it.

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A dumb Castellans list I'll use at some point. Will probably fail terribly but it looks fun.

>>51285589
What do you mean?
Are you asking if you can take dedicated transports for troops that are part of a formation? Because the answer's yes, dedicated transports are basically like wargear.

>>51285597
Not if it's the Daemon player in my group. Mother fucker has the best dice rolls I've ever seen.

>>51284943
Wait what where the fuck is this from? It would let me actually enjoy my berzerkers in daemonkin instead of forcing me into CSM World Eaters to have fun

>>51285524
Crushers are aight, not too expensive real money wise and a lot more enjoyable to paint than flesh hounds

>>51285597
Crushers aren't amazing. A C.Lord on a juggernaut however

>>51285560
A-Anon, I don't know what to tell you. Metallic yellow is gold.

Also, THIN YOUR PAINTS on that shoulder mang.

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>>51285597
Can't they just call them Snooty Space Elves that Are Too Smug? Have the office of the Head Fin for your trouble. Thing's neat enough to belong to an Ultramarine.

>>51285603
Remember, men! Keep the rears of our tanks against this arbitrary invisible line in the ground, and nobody can flank us!

All this army needs now are some servitors!

>>51285569
Dude said it got thirty attacks. Ge only said he "accidently" got it wrong after the game and after it killed most of my Guardsmen. And it's hard as shit trying to focus down a superheavy when it's locked in combat and unable to be shot at most of the time.

>>51285628

They can't call them Elves, Eldar, or anything which would invoke the ire of the legal arm of an entire Hollywood movie studio.

>>51285557
Hmm...I wasn't sure if they were or not, but I guess they aren't. Apologies, Imperial Guard is the army I'm least familiar with.

It does seem like you would be stuck with Scions or vehicles, if you really want helmets, barring any 3rd party or forgeworld stuff.

>>51285605
So as long as the formation does not explicitly outright state it, and the models would normally be able to, you're fine?

>>51285639

Live and learn and force your opponent to check the rules with you.

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>>51285641
Why not just call them Craftworlders and leave it at that?

>>51285639
>He only said he "accidently" got it wrong after the game and after it killed most of my Guardsmen

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>51284986

I already have two Deldar SC boxes, only one of which is mostly assembled. On top of that, I have Scourges, a venom, a succubus, and Wyches to assemble. However, that's a steal for $60. I can't help but wonder what's wrong with the models.

Why do I get the feeling that I'll get and add it to my massive pile.

>>51285620
Think less gold and more shiny yellow car.

I did thin my paints as well. That's multiple layers of white scar that I watered down, though I did have to go over it a couple times to get it right with the trim. I have no idea why white paint always goes on so chalky.

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>>51285608
Very fun, anon.

>tfw you will never defend Cadia to the last man with righteous zeal with hordes of your battle-brothers

>>51285668
Dat subtle shoop. Nice.

>>51285677
>I can't help but wonder what's wrong with the models.

They'll be those sameface, fixed joint lemming models.

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>>51285551
>>51285520
Yeah, they're mine. They're also HQs so I gave them more love.

Here some boyz. Outside of staying in the lines it was a pretty quick job. Just zenithal priming then hitting with inks on all the non-metal bits. Metal is just a steel metallic and nuln oil.

Zenithal priming feels like cheating.

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>>51285603

I love seeing an Enginseer behind all those tanks. He has got this under control no worries.

>>51285635
I wish. I'm converting some pistoliers into Rough Riders as my next project but servitors are gonna be next.

>>51285512
I haven't written out any fluff but i've autistically planned out the command and company structure and make sure to represent it on the models.
They're imperial guard so i restrict my army to a very specialised core (mechanized infantry with a smaller tank spearhead) , and if i want to include anything else it has to a distinct accompanying regiment (i want to include an artillery company in the future) or a detatchment from the imperial navy/superheavy/abhuman regiment or whatever.
As for the fluff, i figure they'll earn it in real games.

>>51285687
The trick, oddly enough, is to NOT start with white scar. You instead need an intermediary beige color. Or 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRR7W5-F15c

>>51285651
That's right. For an easy example, there's the Space Marine Demi-company. Everything in there can take Rhinos, Razorbacks, or Drop Pods as normal.

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What do you guys think of the viability of using lost and damned for kill team
>I'm also thinking of homebrew regiment
>I call them the terror legion
>after there give planet was attacked by the night lords the survivors began worshipping Konrad Curze and the concept of fear itself
>they are travel around the eastern fringe s from planet to planet sowing fear and terror
>they basically function as an army of slasher villains(think Jason,Michael Myers,leather face,etc.) led by worshippers of the nighthaunter and what he stood for

if a lost and damnded army is viable in kill team should I run this home brew

Also here are some other ideas I had for kill team
>Tzeentcth worshippers(brethren of fire look it up on 1d4chan) and some pink horrors or Flamers
>band of freelancing kept mercanaries

>>51285727
Thank you.

I like the start collecting: [???] boxes, but I feel like they don't quite go far enough:

They give you a decent number of models and a vehicle but then don't actually give you anything in the box to start /making/ that box, like a pair of pliers and glue.
I feel like they could a little more, there. But i'm glad they exist - I only recently picked up a skitarii box because of the boxes.

I hope they expand on this Start Collecting thing, I feel like they could definitely get a lot more interest with it.

>>51285722
I didn't start with white scar. I gave it a grey undercoat.

I'll keep that in mind for next time though. I think I've got a few tans lying around.

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>>51285385

I'm more

>depressed because I have no one to play with and this can't find the reason to paint anything

I just post this guy every so often because it makes me feel better

>>51285574
> a cool motherfucker
the dude is the epitome of a gw employee

I walked in once just to scope out the place to see if it was a good hobby spot and after he found out I wasn't a newcommer he pretty much just told me to buy something or get out

>>51285719
I plan on converting servitors from Tempestus, with the idea being these are tech-alcolytes in armor assisting their Enginseer mentor.

What of you? I bet a lot of the skittarii/Cult models would work or maybe something from FW? Or are you grabbing the actual, metal servitors?

>>51285512

The fluff for my sisters is based on the old games I had with my friends in 4th edition, and how the SoB WD Martyred my jump canoness.

>>51285773
Not a Jacksonville player but I'm not inclined to believe you read too much into his words because what you just described is business suicide in a niche marketplace.

>>51285741
They're called start collecting and not start assembling though

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>>51285771
I'd fight you anon and have epic Imperial Guard and Alpha Legion batreps with you.

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>>51285821
>alpha legion

>>51285831
You'll have to forgive him. If it wasn't obvious the man has no eye for color.

>>51285512
>How much do you guys fluff out your armies?

Just barely, Marshall of my Black Templar crusade is named Octo Mendoza and is on a quest for penance of his past failures. Rather than being assigned to a crusade against a foe, the High Marshall has given him the objective of reclaiming chapter keeps that have been lost, to assess their state and bring back relics, equipment or gene-seed to the Eternal Crusade.

>>51285720
as a Dark Eldar player, I've fluffed out my army to the extent I don't even know if I want to include incubi, Haemonculi, wracks, or grotesques in my army since it would clash with my fluff.

>>51285776
I'll probably grab the metal ones. I really enjoy metal models and the weight of them. Especially Kasrkin. I'm still deciding if I want them to have Multi Meltas or servo arms for 2+ hullpoint restoration.

>>51285029
Yeah, but none would really be very useful to tau with a 200 point minimum tax.

>>51285831
GGA hereI'm sorry anon I'm so used to Alpha Legion shitposting here that I think everyone is Alpharius by default.

>>51285814
I get that, I guess it's just the name seems to be aimed at new players? I guess, I feel like they could have taken a better name if it set for people who have /already/ started the hobby.

Can someone post the rules for Chaos Reaver Titans?

I can't decide what army to play. I like them all, and don't care about power level.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12144091

>>51285919
Play Guard

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>>51285919
>not playing the true eldar

>>51285512
Does it count as fluff if I set out with an army build in mind that I tend to stick to regardless of rules changes?
When I first started collecting Space Wolves my goal was to fill an entire FOC and stop there, which is why I ended up with 3 different fast attack units and elites units. I mean I did pick up an extra each because someone dumped a dread and a land speeder on me, but I never really had it in my mind to spam Thunderwolves. I preferred to have many kinds of wolves over huge blobs of expensive cavalry.

>>51285949
Too Edgy

>>51285947
Too Vanilla Human

>>51285981
Dooooooo it. Just ally mechanical to Guard tanks and you're set for life anon.

>>51285963
just fluff it out. give a reason for your choice.

I currently don't have more than a single talos, no wracks, wyches, incubi, or grotesques, and I've fluffed it as my Archon being barely powerful enough to secure her own raids under another, more powerful archon's banner.

She has trueborns working with her on retinue from the other kabal, but she herself only has a few squads of warriors, hellions, reavers, and venoms under her employ.

>>51285863
Easy answer!

Who would you rather shoot the enemy with? Your mechanics, or the freaking tanks? Also, not 2+: GARENTEED Restoration. It's not a leadership or character test; it's its own special rule.

You can tell because whoever made the rule lets you take JUST enough servitors to get that garenteed repair and no more. He or She knew that if you could only whittle it down to a 2+ nobody would take more than 3 servitors.

I have been trying to properly paint my models, but I just fail to see any improvement even after numerous video tutorials and models painted. Frankly, between not being able to get them the way I want them and the cost of the paints+brushes, is it any cheaper to just get a commission painter to do it? I'm going to guess that the majority of responses will be just do it yourself, but that's a bit difficult when I have to stop every once in a while to get over the disgust at how my models look.

>>51286019
Post pics

Hey guys Anon asking about the decurion/Reclamation legion lists over the last few days.

Tonight I wanted to ask you guys opinion on the Royal court. Obviously I have to take an overlord in the regular legion, but if I just want to use Orikan as my Cryptek and him being the only Named character in the list what would be some good builds for the other Lords to deal with problems?

Should I also consider making a CAD with some Preatorians for Orikan to go in or should I just go with the Retribution phalanx?

Like right now I'm considering going kinda bog standard but people keep giving me Ideas of different ways to run 'crons...I think I wanna try and make them my go-to tournament army after being out of the game for so long, I just feel kinda paralyzed by choice at the moment.

>>51286019
>are you thinning your paints
>are you bracing your models effectively
>are you using a small enough brush
>are you waiting for the paint to dry
>are you highlighting

>post pics

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>>51286019
duncan's videos gave me a lot of confidence in getting better in my paintings. I'm still pretty shit, but I started to enjoy painting. I'd say stick with it.

>>51286019
Show benis

>>51286019

Post pics. What the hell are you trying to paint? Worse comes to worse, do a very simple color scheme that requires no additional shading and very little detailing.

>>51286082
>what are you trying to paint?
Himself

>>51284943
>still a mishap if it lands on a friendly cultist

Fuck these rules

>>51286041
Give the lord a warscythe and the veil of darkness, stick him with orikan with a unit of lychguard.

The cryptek takes the solar staff and goes in a unit of warriors or immortals.

Praetorians are nice, but are wasted on orikan as they're jump infantry.

>>51285907
pdf link in the OP. Imperial Armor 13.

>>51286112
It'll mishap on a cultist but it won't get immobilized if it's not a vehicle or building.

So... How can I make Land Raiders actually take a hit?

Rapiers are not fun to face in one.

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>>51286117
Mega refuses to load for me.

I just figured out how the Castellans detachment works with units that change battlefield role. For instance, Space Marine Mounted assault:

The unit changes its type to troops. Its still take from the list where it is in the detachment (so bikes are from Fast Attack list) but they count as troops, like Mounted Attack says. They now do respawn on 5+ but you cant have more than 6 units.

>>51286133
You can't. Land Raiders suck.

>>51286143
Great.
How can I assault as Inquisition without a Land Raider, successfully?

>>51285032
Deep strike should remove the mishap table

Instead if a unit scatters into something like a table edge or enemy unit it should be moved back along the scatter until it can be placed 1 inch away

Then any single enemy unit that prevented it's pavement after scatter should be able to either resolve one round of shooting against the deep stiker or declare an immediate charge with no Overwatch

>>51286174
>Deep strike should remove the mishap table
honestly, just moving the deep striking unit into ongoing reserves would be enough of a slap on the wrists to make people wary of fucking up their deep strikes

Being forced to walk on your table edge is killer for infantry.

>>51286157
Footslogging might actually work. Or a Rhino.

You basically would try to pull a reverse distraction-carnifex. Units like Crusaders, DCA and Arco Flagellants aren't really that "scary" compared to other things, so if you have allied TWC/Wulfen, Death Company, or similar frightening melee units or close-range shooting units, your enemy will prioritize those and won't realize that his dudes have just been wasted by T3 human supremacy until they've already been smote with the Emperor's might.

>>51286143
Abbycuck likes Land Raiders.

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>>51286082
>>51286046
>>51286042
>>51286036
Pics WILL suck because i have no proper setup, but ok.

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>Death Guard Vectorium
>nothing but marines, havocs and obliterators
>not even a single vehicle

Great idea or greatest idea?

>>51286116
I think Lychguard is what I actually meant...

A helpful anon on here the other day was talking about how Orikan and a unit of them can stand on a point and hold it pretty much forever. Short of you just rolling fucking terribly.

>>51286202
>pull the camera back a little
>get a clear white sheet of paper
>shine light (literally any light) straight down, no shadows

It doesn't actually look awful from what I can tell.

BTW that file size. blud for blud god, etc.

>>51286202
Looks alright, Anon. But would need a better picture to tell for sure.

>>51286203
Going heavy on Death Guard havocs to take full advantage of relentless heavy weapons could probably work rather well, actually.

>>51286203
Greatest Idea.

>>51286209
Orikan, vargard obyron, overlord from reclaimation legion plus five sword and shield lychguard are the basis or the orikanstar. It gives you a rerollable 2+ armor save, 3++ reolling 1's invun saves, and a 4+ rerolling 1's RP.

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>>51285831
You called?

>>51286246
What this guy said. DG can go full bananas on infantry mounted heavy weapons due having Relentless. So fuck meltaguns, real men use lascannons.

>>51286131
Not immobilised... But my opponent gets to place it

>>51286256
>Lychguard
Werent wraiths the basis of Orikanstar? Move faster, tougher, better inv, hit harder in melee. They are in all ways better than lychguard.

>>51286202

Looks okay. It would pass for a grade 3. If you have trouble with finer details or splashing your brush across areas it doesn't belong, try a smaller finer brush.

>>51286203
You give up some power in not having the ObSec Rhinos. Personally I'd only take one Warp Smith for the Oblit formation and run something like 3-1-1 for the squads to take advantage of the guidance rituals.

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>>51286200

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>>51286221
>>51286229
>>51286300
I genuinely cannot get a better picture how i am.

>>51286311
Dont handheld you camera. Stack up some books or something and let it rest there.

>>51286311
Looks fine, Anon. Not the best but definitely decent.

>>51286311
That looks fine. Give the Onager a bronze or gold metallic highlight on the trim, and red highlights on the hull.

>>51286311

Use the zoom feature for a stable focus shot

>>51286297
Wraiths are better off being able to move freely, rather than being stuck to an infantry character. You don't want to put more eggs into your deathstar than you have too.

>>51286311
Can't really tell too much on the peasant guy, but that dunecrawler will look quite good with a bit of washing the metallics and highlighting armour plates.

>>51286246
>>51286248
>>51286273

I was more excited about T5 FnP Stealth Obliterators sitting in cover being absolutely fucking indestructible. Meanwhile plasma marines and autocannon Havocs advance as a wall laying down constant fire. Mandatory bike squad (because fuck raptors) zips up the flank to melta something and just be a general nuisance. Warpsmith sits with Oblits and cries.

>>51286321
>>51286329
>>51286332
>>51286367
It's an Iphone with no case, that's not really an option.
Maybe I've just watched Duncan too much and my standards are too high.

>>51286375
Google up duncans first miniature. Look at it and look at it hard.

You can always do better yourself. Just paint more and the quality will get better.

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From a 1 outta 10, how good is this?

>>51286403
2/10. Really, it is.

>>51286375
Put it this way, that dunecrawler is already better than 75% of the shit I see around here on the table and it's not even done.

>>51286403
1660 points? wut

>>51286256
So other than those two and the overlord from the Legion take Should I take anything else from the royal court?
Should I keep it at 5 Lychguard or up it to 10?

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>When you feel good about your paint scheme and then someone kitbashes and makes your same army look like shit

>>51285900
They're for both though. I mean anywhere you buy them the people there will be able to tell you they don't come with that shit, and also sell those things there.

>>51286403
3/10

>no transports for tacticals
>heavy weapon on tacticals, missile launcher no less
>sniper scouts not useful for anything
>Pedro not useful for anything
>Termie chaplain useless
>using normal termies
>schizoid termie load out anyways
>GRAV PISTOLS (literally don't ever take these unless you could somehow get them for reduced price)
>schizoid VVet loadout
>Barely any anti-tank, barely any anti-horde, proper deathstars will smash you, and armies that bring more than one flyer will kill the interceptor

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>mfw I googled Duncans first mini and at the bottom of the article it says
>Thought for the day: “Thin your paints.”

Kek, surely he shitposts here.

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>>51286432
>Carnosaur Raider
SWEET VECTS TESTICLES

>>51286403
It's pretty bad. Why do you only have one drop pod and what is it carrying?

>>51286431
Nah regular lords and crypteks are wasted on a decurion. Keep it to 5 guards, orikan and the lords will be doing all the killing, they're just there for ablative wounds.

>>51286461
True, I should prob get rid of it.

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Good night anons. Before I go I will leave you with this.

And should I just make my scions just into more carapace vets yes or no? Just seems like it would be cheaper to use them like that and maybe put them in a Chimera.

>>51286260
They look beautiful but why are so many shoulder pads on the wrong side?

>>51286432
>Have a nicely painted army
>It's not God Duncan tier but I think it looks alright
>Most people I play with at the club comment on it
>New guy shows up to the club, he's just moved here and I set up a game with him
>He pulls out a fucking GD paint level skitarii army that's converted to hell and back

I'm pretty sure he did it himself too since he sometimes paints stuff on the weekend when we do terrain fix up days and it looks nice.

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>>51286432
Oh fuck me that's cool.

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>>51286491
>the last thing your brave scions see is a trouser cannon that skipped leg day

>tfw just finished painting a land raider
fuck this shit, took way too much paint and took way too fucking long

>>51285639
what a faggot
how many attacks does it usually have?

>>51285639

The most I've ever seen is 12 or 15 and that was with some Belakor shennanigans.

>>51286647
Well at least it's done and over with right?

>>51286657
4 + 1 for each HP it loses.

>>51286657
Profile says 4, but it can go up to 10 with its special rule

>>51286657
4, and it's attack characteristic may never exceed 10.

>>51286466
10-4

Alright so Currently I'm sitting at 1499, good for 1500 but I'm trying to hit at least 1850.

>Reclamation legion
Overlord-125
>Veil of darkness, Warscythe
5x Lychguard-150
>Sword and Board
10x warriors-130
-Ghost Arc-105
10x warriors-130
-Ghost Arc-105
3x Tomb blades-64
>2x Nebuloscope, 3x Particle beamer

>Royal Court
Vargard-120
Orikan-120
(Don't I need a third dude in this group for it to be legal?)

>Canoptek Harvest
Spyder- 50
6x Wraiths- 240
8x Scarab swarms-180


Thoughts? Suggestions?

I got into warhammer 40k like head on within the past couple of months. It seems like GW likes to do a ton of stuff but a part of me feels like this was done only because of the timing that I got into the hobby.

Is GW constantly making events and changing up the lore or is this something like maybe once or twice a year?

since the triumvirate can all be taken as armies of the imperium HQs in a CAD can i finally take a skitarii CAD with one of them as the HQ?

>>51285884

It's not a bad habit, actually.

Still, my area is dry and GW confirmed it. Shit sucks. No one wants to play because they're too busy with MTG.

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>>51285032
I don't think you understand how the guard works.
A bunch of jackasses in ill fitting t-shirts can charge a fucking Blood Thirster with naught more than a pointy stick and WIN because some priest is singing at them.
The Emperor Fucking Protects.

>>51286720
You need a unit of immortals for the legion and an overlord for the royal court. Don't take extra scarabs in the harvest, they're too expensive for what they are.

>>51285731

At least for HoR LatD is viable and pretty cool. The best way to do fluffy chaos imo. CSM is so boring, you can have better variance with mortal chaos worshippers.

>>51286720
You need a cryptek in that royal court. Take one with the solar staff if youre planning to deepstrike them with the lychguard and overlord. They can only hit you with snapshots for one turn with that relic.

>>51286721
Hadn't changed in 13 years or so before last year.

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>>51285436
>mfw I picked them purely for the aesthetics and don't want to be labeled that guy
I am sorry anon

>>51286752
Should I just drop the harvest all together? I think wraiths are cool and the spider is neat (but would probably make a cooler conversion)....is there anything that might be a better fit?

>>51286761
10-4

>>51285497
>Flesh Hounds
>Expensive
If cost is a problem, go for WHFB Warhounds. If not as much, but still fuck GW, get Puppet War Baraghast Fiends.

>>51286761
Orikan is filling the slot of the cryptek

>>51286781
The harvest is powerful and provides some much needed reach. You can field any of the other formations as an alternative though, if any of them seem more appealing.

>>51286781
Wait I may have it wrong is orikan the cryptek who ascends or the lord with the scythe?

Either way its 1 overlord, 1-3 lords, 1-3 crypteks.

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>>51286647
I have yet to finish brush priming my defiler ... Send help...

>>51286771
Wrath of Magnus fucked you in that department if you liked Horrors. If you were building Screamerstar you were always that guy.

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>>51286816
>Mfw I literally have 100 Pewter Pink and Blue horrors

>>51286816
>Playing to your factions strengths makes you 'that guy'
>Post a shit list and people optimize it for you

Mixed messages tbqh senpai.

>>51285731
Lost and Damned should be fun in Kill Team. I'd play it, and it sounds like you've made some pretty sweet fluff.

>>51286809
Man I hope you haven't built the whole thing yet, the legs are a bitch to do if they are already glued on. Also, magnetize the turret to the chassis so you can transport the thing

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>>51285981
>Too Vanilla Human
>Vanilla
The Guard is many things. Vanilla is not one of them.

>>51286760
Thanks for your input anon

>>51286798
Opinion on destroyer cult? I've always had a Soft spot for the bastards.

>>51286687
true, it's not very great, but it's fucking painted, my god it took so long.

>>51286844
Thanks for the advice anon

>>51286881
They are though. That's their appeal.

>Joe from down the road is given a laser gun and a flak vest and told to hold the line

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What does /40kg/ think about Goredrinker?

Chaos Lord and Daemon Prince only for 30 points.

>>51285512
I dont write anything down yet, but i think up backstories for my night lords warband and the characters in it. My chaos lord for instance, was a seargeant back in the heresy who has worked his way up to warband leader after everyone chased down M'Sheen and ran from Eldar.

>>51286701
>>51286693
>>51286688
holy shit and the cunt tried to say it had 30?

>>51286903
Great, but it requires a lot of models. You're basically choosing between it and the harvest.

>>51286432
honestly that would make a better ravager or talos

it's too cool to be a raider

>>51286928
Probably desperate to make it at all worthwhile.

>>51286920
>Kill a small blob of guards or whatever
>S10 ID attacks

Dank.

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>>51285639
>cheating in friendlies
for what fucking purpose?

>>51286647
I love how land raiders look, but they're ass to build and paint because of how huge they are.

>Promise myself I won't buy any more models until I finish painting and assembling my backlog
>Missing a few weapon bits, decide to order some off of forgeworld
>hour later, I'm down 200 bucks and have multiple boxes of models incoming

I don't even play Necrons. Send help.

>>51286978
I know m8, it's so fucking painful

>>51286920
Unwieldy means it's basically worthless on a lord, and AP2 is wasted on a prince.

>>51286978
>>51286647
>>51286809

>Space marine players complain about large models

Fuck you cunts. Guard players have to paint endless dudes AND huge tanks.

>>51286993
S10 ID Rampage though.

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>>51286918
Maybe that's how you play YOUR guard, but I like my guard halfway between "Run Through the Jungle" and "Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)".
Johnny from down the street has a bayonet, and he is expected to bayonet charge an acid trip that wants to eat his soul. The 41st Millennium is one glorious technocolor nightmare, man.

>>51286996
Leman Russ was not this fucking bad

>>51287042
But 3 Leman Russes are, which is about how many a guard player would field vs one LR.

>>51286495
The alpha legion and most traitor legions don't adhere to the codex astartes.

>>51285029
The lack of limit is part of the signature systems rule, not of the tau unit rules

>>51287063
meh, my LR were never as obnoxious to me
the one Land Raider being this tiresome makes me not want to get another one anytime soon

>>51287008
If you want to use it, abuse the fact that you get the benefits even if you don't actually use the axe, so consider it an upgrade rather than a weapon

>>51284996
Only one relic per model.

>>51287117
Wait so you can get S10 ID rampage without unwieldy? Kek.

>>51285487
cool robuts, dude.

>>51286993
>he thinks the axe is worthless
The effects explicitly apply to the model and not the axe. Give your dude a power sword or something and go nuts.

>>51285487
>martian ironearth
It looks terrible stop using it.

>>51286996
you don't understand

The only model as bad as the land raider is the monolith, which is (slightly) easier to paint but way more of a pain in the ass to build.

The russ is a cinch to build (the sprue's been recut/redone several times and you don't have to worry all that much about panel warping) and covered with details rather than being almost entirely flat panels. A land raider is also about the size of two russes.

Aside from the obvious killing of daemons, what (mechanically) do Grey Knights do best

>>51286946
hrmmmm yeah....I think you are right about needing reach as well....

Alright so I'm up to 1579 After dropping scarabs down to 3 and adding an overlord and Immortals.

Current list:
>Reclamation legion
Overlord-125
>Veil of darkness, Warscythe
5x Lychguard-150
>Sword and Board
5x Immortals-85
>standard gauss weapons
10x warriors-130
-Ghost Arc-105
10x warriors-130
-Ghost Arc-105
3x Tomb blades-64
>2x Nebuloscope, 3x Particle beamer

>Royal Court
Overlord-95
>Staff of sunlight (Roll with this or should I switch it out for another Warscythe Veil of darkness lord?)
Vargard-120
Orikan-120

>Canoptek Harvest
Spyder- 50
6x Wraiths- 240
3x Scarab swarms-180

1579/1850

So 271 to go...Could slot in more of what I already have, one of the C'tan....Not a clue what else though.

>>51287215
More tomb blades is always good. You can fit in a unit of deathmarks as well easily. C'tan aren't very good but there's nothing wrong with taking one as cron's can easily absorb the opportunity cost of one. Could also take a night scythe on the lychguard so you don't have to rely on deepstrike and gives you some AA.

>>51286918
But anon, they're actually highly trained (except for conscripts) and usually drawn from the best a Planetary Defense Force has to offer as tithe.

>>51287157

I fucking said that
>>51287117

>>51285571
Ye

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>>51286874
I magnetised the turret and options but stuck on the legs. Am I up shit Creek without a paddle?

I was looking to start a militarum tempestus army as a my second army (not an allied detachment, my main is FSE) and I stumbles upon elysian drop troops in battlescribe. They look absolutely sexy and their rules give me a raging hard boner (moar deep strike), but I have several questions about things that confuse me.
1. On battlescribe (best list builder) I picked the IA4 2ED one but whenever I build a CAD, it says I can only take 1 troop choice and says invalid if I take 2 veteran squads (only one available)
2. What is zone mortalis
3. The IA3 2ED battlescribe list lets me take the vet squads twice, but now I can't take the sexy decimation squads, extermination squads, executioner squads and solomon lok
Which one do I use when, can I use the IA4 one in a CAD in normal games?

>>51287268
that pic?
source?

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what would you do if someone brought this and the ordinatus ulator from forgeworld to a 1500 point game.

>>51287251
I think the night scythe might be a good option, how many can fit into that thing? and how often will I need to be worried about something shooting it down before it can "drop the kids off at the pool"

>>51287268
You are not up shit creek, it's just going to suck. I did the same on my first one

>>51287268
gonna need a source
>google is giving me cartoon network
lmao google is so fucking worthless

>>51287331
15 and any passengers just go into ongoing reserves if it dies.

>>51287310
Bust out my 1500 points of Grots of course.

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Okay, basically I'm refusing to give up on CC lists. Here is my 1850 CSM list that I'm hoping will work in close combat. General plan is Abby/Term in LR, walking lord and zerkers in Rhino, slog CSM and bike squad, maybe 1 raptor squad.

3 Termicide squads DS, blow shit up. 2-3 raptor squads DS, assault turn 1. Can it work?

Hounds of Ab can run and charge, raptors can assault after DS, and I'm rolling for reserves turn 1 bc Black Legion.

>>51287384
eventually the corpses will create a wall strong enough to defend from the shots, i like it.

If I have a Daemon CAD, and my Pink Horrors split into Blue Horrors, are the Blue Horrors Obsec?

So, I recently found out I from Ancestory DNA that I have Viking blood, and am a blood relative of Rolo the Walker. I've also been watching a LOT of Vikings on History channel...

What does that have to do with 40k? Simple. I'm thinking of selling my Blood angels and Salamanders to buy...Space Wolves.

Am I stupid for wanting to do this? Crazy? Will I enjoy it?

>>51287449
Do you wolf?

>>51287449
do you have the urge to wulf?

>>51287449
Scale of 1-Wolf, how hard do you Wolf?

>>51287129

I think that's bingo

>>51287401
If you want to run a melee list just use World Eaters rules. You get a free turn 0 charge and your Zerkers get a free combat phase per game.

>>51287449
Don't.

>>51287401
I would drop abby and pals, chaos terminators don't hit hard enough in CC and it's a massive point sink. I would max out the bike squad and make your vanilla lord a juggerlord with axe of blind fury. The lord will dish out better damage on the charge. Also try to fit burning brand on the lord with the annihilation force for shenanigans

>>51287449
Don't trade an army you want for spamming wolfriders and werewolves. The age of fluffy SW lists with characters and fun stuff is gone.

>>51287470
>>51287472
>>51287481
I do like wolves. I like space vikings riding into battle on wolves is pretty awesome. I don't mind the Lycanthrope elements of the Wulven (rather like it). I love the idea of fighting beside your beloved partner wolves and charging into battle with your brothers. Is that wolf enough?

>>51287499
I have to finish my 2k points of Chaos first. So it wouldn't be till likely after August before I start.

What army has the best Air at 1850 points? I barely see anyone talking about or fielding any Flyers, so I might pick something up to be snowflake.

>>51287129
Wait what? I only have 1 relic per guy...because the Daemon weapon and the Exiler right? I thought those were two different thing, that artifacts are not Relics because they are in two different headings?

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Rate my toy soldiers.

>>51287542
i dont know if its the best but the dark eldar have pretty decent air support

>>51287520
I'll be honest the Salamanders I found myself indifferent to after a while, I just liked their rules. And the current Meta has me backing away from my Blood Angels. I liked them as almost, kinda, if you squint enough the resemble vampires. I liked The Blood Talons and the Assault Marines as troops. Currently though, I don't see my Red Things go Faster the Marines. I see...Red Marines, who also have some black marines if you want.

So I'm a little put off, and willing to moth ball them or sell them.

>>51287542
Eldar I believe.

>>51287538
No one asked if you liked wolves, they asked if you wolf and wolf hard.

Do you even wolf bro?

>>51285639
Wait, someone claimed a model got 30 attacks and you didn't even bother asking to see the datasheet? Definitely retarded.

Shit, people demand to see the rules for my Solitaire every time he Blitzes.

>>51287646
>insert brofessor shoop of do you even lift

>>51287655
while 30 is a bit nuts, if that this is a lord of skulls with legs instead of treads like it looks like it is, it gains an attack for every hull point that it loses capping at 10 attacks.

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alrighty well....1845/1850

How do ya'll think this will fair for a tourney list?

>>51287646
?
The hell? you drink some bad beer there? Or snort some warp dust? Wolf is a noun not a verb.
-one trip to dictionary.com later.-
Huh...it is a verb. To Devour Voraciously.
In that case YES! Pass the meat!

A wolf is also a word of a promiscuous guy. Okay. Yes I wolf.

>>51287347
>>51287297
Facebook. 40k adults or something. I forgot

>>51287347
wh40kart.im
Try that.

>>51287255
They're still just human.

>>51287027
That's pretty much what he's saying too. Regular guys against horrible nightmares.

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The graphical list builder is missing several things I need. Go figure.

Librarians group up with the command squad, Techmarine chills with the tank.

>>51287707
>didn't think wolf was a verb
>likes cock

Space Wolves aren't for you. Stick with Blood Angels.

Any Dark Angels' players that could suggest where to go with my list. Looking to catch up to my cousin and friends who are around 1500.

For 1000points I run:

>Level 2 Librarian on Bike
>6 Ravenwing Black Knights in a Command Squad with the Ravenwing Banner and an Apothecary
>Two units of 10 Tactical Marines with Grav Gun and Combi Grav in Rhinos

I also have 5 scouts I am not using and would like to avoid terminators for now.

It seems like a Darkshroud would be a fantastic addition for my HQ and his command squad so I definitely will fit one in at 1500 but somehow they are only 80 points so I have 480 to go with.

I have only played ~10 actual 40k games, much more kill team though, but 8 of those games were at 500 pts.

Both of my 1000pt games have been losses against my cousins Ork Biker lists as well as my friends IG Tank Army.

>>51287779
>playing Ravenwing against Ork Bikers
>losing

Tell me more. This is a fascinating case study.

>>51287755
>likes cock
The what? What part of I like to have sex with a lot of different women did you translate to that?

You might need to stop drinking that rotgut.

>>51287787
Well he has been playing for five years for starters and I have less bikers than I do tactical marines.

As for his list he just had WAY more bodies than I did and I think the final score was 9-3 because of it.

Also my bikers dont get objective secured but his did.

We played the second maelstrom mission if that helps.

Why are Maelstrom missions so much more fun?

>>51287799
I read it as promiscuous gay

My bad anon

>>51287787
>playing Ravenwing
7 bikers isnt playing Ravenwing. RW is only scary in superfriends or if they are running the purest of RW blackknight spam with Darkshroud support.

>>51287839
That's more like it. It's late reading mistakes happen.

>>51287707
Space Wolves use "wolf" as a noun, verb, and adjective.

Start at 15:38
https://youtu.be/ihskUz0obzY?t=15m38s

>>51287779
For starters you don't have reliable special or heavy weapons. Guard and Orks arn't going to give 2 shits aboit grav so it's basically wasted points. Also, only 3 squads? Drop the Knights for regular bikers and get some more dudes.

>>51287275
Can anyone help me?

>>51287873
That I suddenly realize more than I thought I did.

>tfw thinkgen of buying the burning of prospero to use as a booster for my Space Marine army

>>51287275
1. Not sure why that is. Maybe a bug?
2. Special rules to simulate fighting in an extreme-close-quarters environment, such as in a hive or a ship. You can find the rules in IA 4 in the mega link.
3. Not sure, also probably a bug. There's nothing in the Elysian Drop Troop rules that stipulates this. You might just have to make your list the old-school way.

>>51286499
How did he convert it? Any tips?

>>51287896
The Black Knights have great shooting but I agree the grav hasn't been great. Maybe I will switch them for Melta.

Going against two of the Leman Russ made for a quick game since they effectively removed an entire unit each game.

Luckily my IG friend knows more people that play and is investing in a table, mat and terrain already so we don't have to play at the local store.

Our current LGS doesnt have much terrain all they did was make some hills and craters unless you get there first and can use the three or four walls they have. (only two tables)

Maybe I will pick up some Devastators and another unit of tacticals in a rhino.

Then I could throw in the scouts I am not using to hold the back line or infiltrate with their snipers.

One tactic that looked especially good though was the Multimelta Attack Bike(s) and double Multimelta Landspeeder in a Ravenwing Attack Squadron Formation. I am unsure where I could fit something like that in.

At 1500 points I am expecting a third Leman Russ and at least one more artillery piece from IG and the Battlewagon and Meganobs(?) for the Orks.

>>51287275
1. I can't find anything on why that happens in a list. Might be a bug.
2. Zone Mortalis is an expansion to the main rulebook. Ignore it for now.
3. IA3 has the rules for a basic Elysian Drop Troops list. IA4 is for running the D-99 detachment, which is a separate force that combines some inquisition stuff with geneticallt engineered Guardsman.

>>51287602
needs more autocannon teams.