How do I make a good avian race for a setting? And don't

Ostriches, only looking fab instead of goofy.

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>>51279033
These guys.

>>51279067

Game?

>>51279033

Go back to /trash/ feather fucker.

>>51279078
TORtanic.

>>51279105

Why do you hate Zelda?

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>>51279033
Base them on bearded vultures

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>>51279327

>Bearded vultures come in various shades, from pure white to orange-red. Soils stained with iron oxide give the birds their fiery appearance. Lammergeiers apply the dirt with their claws and then preen for about an hour to ensure a bright orange glow. They are also attracted to other red things, like leaves and red wood. Captive birds also partake in this behavior, which suggests the activity is instinctual, not learned

>>51279033
Laughing owls. Make them tribal Druids that follow people in the woods around and maniacally giggle.
https://youtu.be/5QFglkpG1J0?t=5

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>>51279033
Look, OP, if you wanted a Chozo thread you could have just asked

>>51282691

Is this real?

space harpies of course

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/28196355/

>>51279033

How much biological realism do you want?

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>>51283537

If an animal species doesn't have biological realism, it might as well not be an animal species

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>>51279033
Bgaaaawwwwk

>>51283495

Yep, hunters have been telling stories about hearing maniacal laughter in the woods for a while, apparently the owls follow you laughing in the treetops for funzies or out of curiosity. Really rare species though.

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>>51279033
>those are the only birds I ever hear people talk about.
Nobody talks about harpies?

>>51283731

Harpies aren't birds, their monstergirls

>>51283748

Papi a best.

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Honestly, the Arrakoa from World of Warcraft are pretty cool. The game doesn't really explore them well enough, but the potential is there to do some really cool things with them.

>>51279033
Whatever you do, absolutely do not do that wing fingers bullshit.

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>>51283748
Them greeks and their monstergirls man.

Let's see what I have for non harpy bird people.

>>51279033
Depends on the species you're basing them off.

Parrots: gregarious and sociable talkers and traders. Get bonuses to intelligence and charisma, maybe a racial bonus towards trade skills or appraise.

Corvids: intelligent, mysterious, and secretive. They master forbidden black arts and have a fondness for necromancy. Bonuses towards Intelligence and Wisdom.

Raptors: warriors, hunters, and killers. They serve as the proud warrior dudes or as dangerous assassins. Can range from huge as fuck eagles to tiny but agile hawks.

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>>51283845

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>>51283889
That's all I got. Everything else I have are harpies, gryphons or fetishy shit.

>>51283888

What about herons? They eat everything

>>51279033
I think in 5e there's a bird race. People complain about them because they have at-will flight so they fly around and shoot arrows/magic all day.

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Have some gwiffins anon.
http://iguanamouth.tumblr.com/post/119477162762/kept-getting-requests-for-gryphons-so-heres-a

What about penguin humanoids as an alternative to merpeople?

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>>51283793
They actually got a bit more love in Warlords of Draenor. There are two different kinds of Arakkoa; the corrupted, crippled shadow-worshiping kind most TBC-era players are used to, and the new, uncorrupted Arakkoa who worship the sun and use solar magic and constructs and these cool looking wing swords. Turns out the pure Arakkoa would ostracize dissenters by throwing them from the top of their spired cities, which horribly crippled and corrupted the outcasts into the Arakkoa we know, who turned to shadow magic to get by without the light of the sun. I can't remember why they lost the ability to use solar magic after being maimed though, but the pure Arakkoa also have giant solar lasers they use to torch known outcast settlements when they find them.

That was literally the only redeeming thing about that expansion.

>>51284118

Sounds good, but they'd have a narrow range of habitation

>>51284371
Not necessarily as limited as you may be thinking. They'd still be limited to areas near water but some penguins live in more temperate climates. If you want to get really specific the water might need to be part of a current fed from colder waters. It's not like there aren't tons of penguins in zoos.

>>51284118
Noot Noot!

>>51279327
>>51279375
Their diet also consists mostly of bones. They wait for other scavengers to pick a corpse clean, then they swoop in, crabs some bones, drop them onto rock so they break into smaller pieces, and swallow the bone chunks whole.

They're freakin metal

>>51284357
>>51284357

King of thieves, french fries, and shiny things

>>51284371
They can be found living comfortably in many parts of Africa, South America, and Australia.

I think they'll be fine

>>51284669
Don't forget puzzle solving, grudges, and occasionally imitating human speech

>>51283643
Scientific or not, feathers on dinosaurs looks fucking stupid. I'm keeping them nude.

There's two kinds of people who want to play as bird people: the bird variant of a furry, and people who want to be able to fly from character creation in games where that is a rarity. Both of these are bad people

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>>51284768
What happens if I'm a degenerate furfag AND a powergaming number cruncher that is always trying to bend the rules in my favor?

>>51284768
This

Only acceptable races are humans, smaller humans and humans with pointy ears

And if you like humans, you're just a dull vanilla fuck and should honestly fuck off and stop roleplaying

Smaller humans are for le ebin dorf xD shitters and they should all kill themselves tbqhacswyhf

And pointy eared humans are fucking gay af

>>51284812
In that case I would point you towards the pathfinder general

>>51284975
Last I checked it was all Kitsune fags there, and most furfags and kitsunsfags hate eachother's respective fetish

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>>51284768

Or maybe somebody who wants to peck your eyes out for saying stupid things

Guild Wars had good Birbfolk. Shame they never made a sequel or went anywhere with such a cool universe.

>>51285128
Man, I just love how shiny and blue grackles are

>>51279033
I like how easy it is to tell a drawing is made by an furry/scaley/feathery(?) just by their artstyle. It's like that art test where you draw a vagina without getting weird with it.

>>51285645

>that duck bra

oh god

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>>51279033
They would be bird furry, you could explain them as a dinosaur variation that evolved into humanoids, but no flying, that's too OP for PC.

>>51285645
>Aflak!

>>51285645
This should not exist

>>51283495
The only species that actually "laughed" was endemic to New Zealand and went extinct in 1914. From what I've read their cries were more shrill than what you hear in that video, which is likely an imitation of the sounds humans make.

welcome back tweethearts

kys

>>51284768
What DO you call the bird variant of a furry?
Avian just doesn't fit with the rhythm of Furry/Scaly in my mind, and Feathery is just janky all around.

>>51285645
I thought we learned our lesson about putting rapist cannibals into power armor when we made the Emperor's Children.

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Shrykes from the Edge Chronicles are pretty great. Incredibly cruel slaver race with the females in charge.

>>51283845
>>51283889
>>51283953
>that furaffinity hair
KYS
Y
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>birbrace
>not using based crows or ibises as template for thothian levels of intelligent flying men
>the morrigan are displeased

>>51284768
>>51284873

>Played with many a furry over the years
>Many of them played various nonhuman or breastraces
>They were all swell guys, good players and generally fun to have around

Dunno where all this paranoia comes from honestly, I wasn't sure about them at first but all the furries that have ended up in my games have been pretty swell.

Consider Avians from Starbound.

>>51284721

This

>>51284712

My grandpa had a crow that could talk. He had to fork its tongue though

>>51279033
As with any species, start with a concept you want to explore and build from there.

I made my own version of Yuan Ti snakemen in a similar fashion, came up with where their civilization was located, what traits would be informed by their biology, a few cultural concepts I wanted to include, then just spitballed ideas until they were fleshed out.

My advice is also to talk to a friend about it, just talking about your ideas can really help develop more ideas you might not have thought of before.

>>51283888
What about Geese?

Since birds can just fly away, that would make it hard for a ruler to impose unpopular laws, since his subjects could just fly away

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>>51283778
Not really my kind of girl, but I can understand why some guys like her. That's what I'd like to say but can't, given the fact that her three step memory moves her from "kind of ditzy" to "tragically retarded".

snek a best
a spoder is fine too
horse pussy a cute

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>>51287770
orcs

We don't talk about fucking geese

Aaracockra or however it's spelled. Eagle people, pretty dank if you ask me.

>>51286932
Downy

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>>51279033
Avoid furry tropes. Go with something like the Turian - avian inspired without making yourself a straight up featherfucker.

>>51288199

I don't know why you're trying to avoid walking on eggshells, when nobody even uses bird races in the first place.

>>51287964
She's pure.

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>>51283748

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>>51288199
>Avoid furry tropes.

Why? Furries are a staple of fantasy and a good one. Why would you deny yourself Gnolls, wolf men, tengu, lizard men, pig orcs, etc?

>>51283748
furry lite*

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cock

Besides the Guild Wars Tengu (https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Tengu) Legend of Zelda has several birdlike races.

The Rito: https://zeldawiki.org/Rito
The Kikwi: https://zeldawiki.org/Rito
and the unsettling as fuck Oocca: http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Oocca

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>>51284371
ahem

>>51288412
because some 5 loud idiots that like furries also happen to like very weird fetishes and coulldn't hold their noodles in pockets
so furry=900000+ worst fetishes ever

>>51287035
I was hoping someone would bring up the Shrykes. They were such a cool part of The Edge Chronicles.

Fuck I loved that series. Should really read it again sometime

>>51285003
So, furfags have their own tribal disputes and factions? Dogfags fighting against wolffags?

>>51289724
Furries get into as many pointless fandom arguments as any other fandom.

>>51288951

>fighting a cock samurai
>suddenly he kicks you with his razor-sharp feet-talons and you're bleeding on the side of the road

Fucking dinosaur relatives.

>>51287269
It's one of the great standing traditions of 4chan to rip on furries, even if you're cool with them.

>>51279067

Gotta admit, the "This is the first time I've laid eyes on you and I'm already tired of your shit" look is impressive.

Pity about the ridiculous feather texture.

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>>51289040
Are you sure about that?
I live in Chile and haven't seen a penguin in my entire beach-ridden lifetime.

>>51285854
why do all of them have tusks?

>>51279033
You got the Kig-Yar from Halo who were a race of pirates before they joined the Covenant.

>>51279327
>>51279375

There was a picture I saw on tg not long ago. It was a painting of what if raptors (or whatever they were) evolved and developed.

Now I want to have a race similar to that, maybe give them a body style a bit more similar to kangaroos, then give them the feather style of bearded vultures.

>>51296834

What's the offshoot called?

>>51297162
Kigger

>>51296834

Does anyone have an explanation for why Kig Yar offshoots are so different from one another?

I mean humans tend to be rather different mainly with skin colour. That is caused by the UV rays.

What was Kig'Yar planet like that you end up with beaked one and touthed ones?

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>>51297958
>"We need a new enemy type, here's what they do."
>"They kinda sound like Jackals."
>"Whatever. Have them done by Monday, we need the new build for E3."

>>51279033
This picture makes me feel funny...

>>51279033
>no one's mentioned the Skeksis yet
For shame, guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVIrGONcCu4

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>>51279033

Bumping for interest (not OP); trying to do up a race in Numenera that's essentially evolved from corvids.

Thoughts so far:
Main tool manipulator is actually what used to be the tongue, now a more complex organ that levers items against the beak
Due to the syrinx's parallel sound production capability, avian language is in "stereo", sometimes involving different speech sequences on each side
Sized like a big eagle or hawk; not so large as to lose all flight, but large enough to maintain a larger brain

more thoughts??

>>51301261

Why don't they have hands?

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>>51283793

I wish that zone wasn't so dizzying. Like, literally. The spiral staircases made me sick and I skipped quests on that account.

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>>51284118

super adorbs!

>>51301275

I was working from looking at Hawaiian and New Caledonian crows, the varieties that do the most tool using, and they use their mouths primarily. Probably the lack of predation in island environments makes it safer for them to look down and manipulate things. I figured it'd make more sense to piggyback off what they already did rather than make human-based assumptions.

>>51284241
Aw, but I loved those crooked bastards!
Why's it always have to be a discrimination backstory?

>>51289040
What does an Australian penguin look like?

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>>51303544
Straya cunt

>>51286890
Holly's birds are cute.

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Like this

>>51295991
That's because they don't want you to see them.

>>51301796
Different guy, but I kinda like the idea of the tongue thing. I'm thinking though, what if you made the race sort of harpy-ish, with wing arms, and they use the folds of their wings to hold things, but their beak to manipulate things? Like how some birds do with their talons and beaks, and have that switch from talons to wings be a side-effect of working with civilized races? Like, the other races thought them using their, "feet," to manipulate things was offputting.