Pathfinder General /pfg/

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>>51224705

I don't like kobolds. They're blatant fetish fuel and designed purely for smutty kinksters.

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>>51224786
I don't like humans. They're blatant fetish fuel and designed purely for smutty kinksters.

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Do you remember love, anon?

>>51224705
My game is today, but I can't make it because I have to work.

>tfw barbmermaid anon doesn't reply to you
wow, I didn't know I could hurt this way

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>>51224844
Nope

>>51224786
Why are you here?

>>51224881
He only replies to people who got accepted into the campaign. You don't exist. So why should he reply to nothing?

>>51224920
link me HV right now
I will exist

>>51224698

I dunno... I'd ship Cireia the grapply, spunky merfolk with... um... anyone who is open!!!

>>51224881
I'm here, anon, what was your question!!!?
Also, here is Hell's Vengeance!!! https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/66405/hells-vengeance

>>51224933
Good luck.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/66405/hells-vengeance

Just because you apply doesn't make you exist.

>>51224960
I'd ship Cireia to a tuna cannery.

>>51224960
I ship the spunky merfolk grappler with everyone
At the same time.

>>51224960
I told you what exactly I'd do with rope
I see that I'm not good enough, so I'll just KMS

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>>51225018
>everyone
>At the same time.

>>51224960
>anyone who is open
>two other grils
>one guy
>second possible guy, but most likely a a third gril cause waifus
I'm sorry, but your fishgirl gonna be gay as fug, or competing with the other vvajayjays for the only worthwhile sausage in town.

>>51224446
... And this is where I realize that when I lost my old PC, I also lost my login information for paizo...
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and... uh...

for gmail too.

>>51225033
W-well... anon, it was so lewd!!!

Would you have called her all sorts of names while she was tied up, hanging tail-first and free to play with wherever?[/spoiled]

>>51225018
Fun... I'm fine with that!

>>51224999
Please no bullyy!

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>>51224786
How do you feel about yinglets?

>>51225085
Wowie, I really hecked up the formatting that time!

>combat takes the whole 4 hour session
jesus fucking christ
combat becomes hell at later levels

>>51225085
Why, of course! After all, when she's all bound and gagged, I'd be certain to ask her if she's got some cow blood in her, for those tasty jugs of hers swinging free. Not that she could give much of an answer, outside of gagged moans or hums through her stuffed throat.

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>>51224820
Not all humans put that +2 in Charisma.

>>51225091
They look like they'd be good when stewed with some vegetables.

>>51224960
anon of Sasha here, offering genuine thanks to you for the inspiration to revise Sasha. I actually think this new version is better and works more with the original character concept. Even if I don't get in, which is statistically probable, thanks!

>>51225154
What game, senpai?

>>51225169
You're more likely to get in then me. Cheers!

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>>51225179
Deception

>>51225169
No problem, anon! I'm always here if anyone needs support or help or just encouragement! I'm glad that I could have inspired you! I'll check it now!!

>>51225149
Well, she doesn't have some! Are you calling her fat? S-she's not fat, b-bully...

>>51225169
I just checked it out and I really liked it! I think the changes are quite neat, and I like the change for him being kind of a girl, but mostly a guy! Good on you, anon, I hope you get in!

>>51225060
Every unneeded coincidence, unlikely character trait or other gratuitous case of special snowflake syndrome on a character makes them less interesting, cohesive and identifiable as characters, yes. You can tie a lot of things into a proper character, but making a dickgirl character just because it gets you off is of the same narrative and dramatic value as one of those OCs people make on Gaia having rainbow-colored eyes despite existing in the Harry Potter setting.
Every unneeded element introduces one more thing that needs to be addressed without actually adding anything to the game, meaning that you knock disruptive holes in roleplaying time just for the sake of saying or implying your character has a dick.
The further a character is from a completely and utterly normal baseline human, the more effort you have to put into ensuring that those traits that distance them from humans (i.e. players) have some form of purpose in characterization or roleplaying. This is why Mary Sues are annoying and boring even when characters with higher power levels can be perfectly fun - because their specialness is pointless clutter that deprives them of hooks or takes up empty space, instead of having a plot hook or a characterization element tied to them.
And yes, the more normal characters are, the more interesting they become. They can play off each other, their emotions and lives are easier for players to understand and portray, they help deepen the setting instead of being defined by not fitting in it, they restrict the scope of the game and with that the amount of potential plot holes or imbalances, and on top of all that they make the occasional rare character archetype tens of times more rewarding to play, because that rarity and specialness now has a backdrop and precedents to play out against.
A good roleplayer can get characters for a whole roleplaying career out of "middle-class human twentysomething without magical abilities".

>>51225226
I'm sure the noises she'd be making as I played with her tats every which way would be close enough to mooing. Of course, additional ropes could always be added...
Gotta make sure that she can't slip out even on a twenty. Not that she'd want to, after a while.

>>51224844
MINMAYFAGS STILL BTFO

>>51225273
Well, she couldn't get out even if it was a twenty! She has no points in Escape Artist!
A-and it's more close to moaning, t-thank you very much.

>>51225264
You could've just left it to that thread, anon. You could've just let go...but you didn't...

>implying people play dickgirls solely because it gets them off
>Implying all characters aren't just coincidences and unlikely character traits

Pay no attention to this anon, they believe their opinions are the only one that matters, /pfg/.

>>51225321
Not even with a strength twenty?
Hmmm...
What to do with a helpless mermaid cutie that gets sweaty and physical as her main form of combat? She'd have to earn her way out somehow, but doing it in a manner that wouldn't make me want to keep her trussed up for myself would be tough.

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>>51225311

>>51225372
SHES A SLUT!

BUT SDF IS STILL BETTER THAN THE REST OF THE SERIES!

>>51225370
Depending on the rope, a DC 23 Str check breaks hemp ropes.

>>51225391
>hemp
Not even once, anon.
I'm perverted, but not a brute.
Except for when a waifu needs some disciplining

>>51225391
Huh! Well, I was thinking more chains, but yes! She could actually break out on a Strength check of 20!

>>51225370
W-well, y-you tell me, anon! She's the one helplessly dangling, staring and struggling around!

>>51225437
I bet you she couldn't if someone were to make her drunk first!

>>51225370
>What to do with a helpless mermaid cutie
Hand feed her grapes, blueberries and oysters, which allegedly contain a natural aphrodisiac.

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Which character do you want to see suffer the most in Rise of the Jade Regent?

>>51225437
I wouldn't use hemp, that would chafe horribly. The finloop would be silk, with the rest of the riggings being chains. It would be interesting to see if a leather strap could be enchanted with charm person, so she's always chewing down on some nice mind altering magic.
Of course, once setup is done, I'd have to stick a toy in her to keep her occupied while I go to find some of the best grapplers around at a local tavern. I'm sure she'll have a blast seeing just how it feels to be helpless and have hands feeling up and groping all across her tight, sweaty body.

>>51225471
This anon gets it.

For kineticist damage question anon earlier.
Here are two number sets for an onslaught kineticist fully optimized (right down to 'augmented elements' to get esoteric earlier) at levels 11 and 13: because 12 while often used does basically nothing since it's in between all the upgrade levels for even # of dice, and because 13 not only swaps out excessive-blaster for Extreme, but doing so also grants an additional +1/die.

12xd3 Composite. Esoteric >>12x(d6+2) +1 Ring +1 Targeted
Shots: 12+2(Burned)+3(Excessive) =x15
Energy Aim +6, 24CON=+3, Onslaught:15 hits=+7
Max Single Target output 15d6+76

Level 13: Shots 14+2(Burned)+7(Extreme) =x23 Damage +1/die
Energy Aim +6, 26CON=+4, Onslaught 23 hits =+11
Max Single Target output 23d6+136 = 216.5

As Extreme Blaster is literally the Quicken replacement - you can understand the fairly high damage boost found here.

>>51225362
Alright, alright, it's on.
What exactly could you bring to the roleplaying or plot with a dickgirl character that you couldn't just do with a tiefling, a half-orc or (even better) just someone from a maligned family such as the knacker's family?
How, exactly, would it be better to tack a dick on a character for the cheap, omnipresent "not like all the other ducklings" victimization fantasy or pity points? On top of being an unlikely, reality-stretching element that could be handled in a completely mundane way, it's also going to get people's emotions and opinions on sex involved, making it awkward at best and group-destroying at worst.
And Jesus Christ, I've played with a lot of retards like you who spout shit like "it's a roleplaying game, why does reality have to matter", "why can't I just kill and fuck that NPC before talking to him", "why can't I call my character Lord Dickface, I think it's funny", "why can't I play Wolverine" and "why can't my character just bang everyone".
All those games have been dreadful, because there was never such a thing as roleplaying. Roleplaying games are half game and half acting, which means that like actual acting, there are still rules even though they're not mechanical. Just because you can't write down the one single way to play a roleplaying game doesn't mean that there aren't right and wrong ways - try entering an acting troupe with that mindset and see what happens.
I know by now what kind of roleplayer you are. You're the kind who says they just want to have fun, but for some reason never have it and never let their groups have it either. You're the kind of person who's been told off about the same thing by dozens of unrelated people, but still doesn't get that the one common problem is you.
It's also amazingly archetypal just how you interpret someone giving a piece of simple literary theory as "thinking only their own opinions matter".

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>>51225264
>my stance is the only one that matters, and you can't have good roleplay from this thing because I say you can't

Not saying slapping a dick on every tiefling "girl" is totally A-okay for every game, but your "ONLY HUMANS ARE GOOD" attitude makes you sound like a jackass.

>>51225525
Etan, because seeing the "I want to be a hero" character get broken is GOAT

>>51225572
>What exactly could you bring to the roleplaying or plot with a dickgirl character that you couldn't just do with a tiefling, a half-orc or (even better) just someone from a maligned family such as the knacker's family?
Seduce an amazon who looks down on men but sees sex as something only for breeding!

>>51225573
A solid choice.

>>51225592
And sideline the rest of the table while adding nothing of value to the plot, the character or the setting besides a thin excuse for your fetish.
Next.

>>51225573
>Not saying slapping a dick on every tiefling "girl" is totally A-okay for every game, but your "ONLY HUMANS ARE GOOD" attitude makes you sound like a jackass.

>Tone-policing

>>51225618
>And sideline the rest of the table while adding nothing of value to the plot
They're not sidelined if they're all assisting the seduction grapple check!

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>>51224786
>They're blatant fetish fuel
>Kobolds
>Fetish fuel
Does not compute, unless mechanical traps and vietcong style shenanigans are now a common fetish

>>51225264
>the more normal characters are, the more interesting they become
Patently false.

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>>51225635
>>51225592

So you're saying a dickgirl is compelling because you could force a girl down and breed her?

Hate to rain on your parade, but a girl will probably feel like a freak if she has a dick when she shouldn't. The only purpose that cock will serve is either finding a way to remove it, or find a way to come to terms with having it.

>>51225635
And by then you've escaped so far from your own realm of experience that you have nothing to bring to the "roleplaying" besides your own sex drive.
If your idea of plot consists of having sex and your idea of roleplaying consists of seduction checks, you really need to look into this thing called "sex".
Or "porn", because there must be a reason you're buying corebooks to masturbate over.

>>51225661
desu Tucker's Kobolds are so my sort of thing that they arguably are a minor fetish of mine

>>51225572
The feelings of isolation because the character is abnormal. They lack confidence in themselves because they know they're so different and during the course of play might come to terms with it and start feeling more comfortable as what they are. Yes, it's similar to what can be done with tiefling and half-orc or whatever, but why should it be excluded as a possibility just because you don't like it? Sure, I was being a faggot shitposter but that's because you're also being a faggot who can't see beyond the fact that..yes, some people want to use them exclusively for lewd. That doesn't, however, prevent them from being used in other scenarios. Like I said earlier, it doesn't particularly matter what sex they are in games that aren't lewd. Anyone who tries to shoehorn it into a non-lewd game should be excluded, but you're attacking the idea itself rather than the people that misuse it.

>>51225667

>Patently false

You are wrong. The more fantastical a character becomes the harder it is to connect with them. The most memorable characters are ones that are "normal people, but X."

>>51225722
>but x
They are now no longer normal people.

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>>51225675
>Come to terms with having it.

>>51225573
>seeing the "I want to be a hero" character get broken is GOAT
Go have a stroke, edgelord.

>>51225722
This sounds very much like one of those newfangled "different but also valid opinion" thingamajigs.

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>>51225675
>>51225702
I have to admit, I'm mostly just trollfetishposting and wouldn't consider running a hermaphrodite because it's easier to slip normal characters into games and ERP stuff like that should only come from an organic scenario, rather than throwing fetishbait into campaigns to begin with.

>>51225722
Adventuring and fighting monsters make them not normal. Normal people are living their lives trying to make ends meat and raise their families and are powerless to change anything about their fates. Adventurers and PCs are risking their lives with every encounter, throwing their fates to the wind as they try to fight their normality.

>>51225717
>Anyone who tries to shoehorn it into a non-lewd game should be excluded, but you're attacking the idea itself rather than the people that misuse it.

>The only time a dickgirl works is in a smutty "lewd~" game
>The idea itself is still good

Cock-hungry breeders only work in smutty "lewd" games too, and I've seen this thread explode when someone tried to insist it's a compelling character concept.

>>51225744

People lead complicated lives, everyone alive will be "normal, but X" which can range from "normal, but a huge faggot" or "normal, but is seven feet tall and has issues with his brother."

>>51225667
Except the most interesting characters I've ever played or seen played, in my entire fucking roleplaying career, have been normal human beings at the core of it.
Most of them had some kind of supernatural powers, but in literally all of those cases, they had some kind of character conflict stemming from that they were fundamentally just human, with human flaws, human foibles and human strong points.
I've played uncountable fucking characters and NPCs, and the one that was the most fun for me was an emotionally immature perma-teenage Tumblrina with a depressingly pedestrian life who'd ended up becoming a special White Wolf Asian vampire by being a barely redeemable, petty asshole in life.
When you start playing those characters, you'll see what I mean. Their motivations come realistically, don't feel forced and always have an easy in-universe response. They fit within the setting and don't clash with it, and they're defined by their characters at the core of it instead of the powers and special features they have.
But you'll never play a character like that, because you're too caught up on the idea that roleplaying should be free fun for you with no strings attached instead of requiring some work to be fun just like every other hobby on the fucking planet.

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>>51225763
If that image comes form where I think it does, the futanari would be the least of my worries.

>>51225784
Or 'normal, but has a dick.'

>>51225796
Except I agree with you that characters require verisimilitude, and I disagree with you that a hermaphroditic character inherently lacks that.

>>51225784
What about normal, "but a self destruct alcoholic who escapism from his reality by pretending to be a little elf girl magic caster who only knows the spell "Greater Make Stuff Go Kaboom" in an online Mongolian finger puppet website."

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>>51225796
>When you start playing those characters, you'll see what I mean. Their motivations come realistically, don't feel forced and always have an easy in-universe response. They fit within the setting and don't clash with it, and they're defined by their characters at the core of it instead of the powers and special features they have.

>mfw I suddenly realize I only make "normal" Humans because of this, to the point even the occasional Tiefling or Aasimar is treated as being essentially human

I've always felt it, but you put it into words.

Would riven hourglass's 9th level maneuver disrupt spellcasting?

>>51225784
Normal people have problems. Imagine yourself in a universe where magic exists. I know I'd be trying out magic to change myself into a cute loli

>>51225784
What are you trying to say exactly, that you can't play interesting futa characters in non lewd games?

>>51225830
If you want verisimilitude while still playing a chick with a dick, it means you have to orient most of her struggles around having a dick, which is going to get a lot of people to think that you're getting off on it.
The thing about it is that it is nothing at all but a sexual organ that you had to go to the trouble of explaining, and there's no purpose for it that is not in some way sexual.
Having something sexual in a game is fine, but it needs to serve another purpose than imagining, facilitating or spicing up sexual situations. Pure sexual content, especially if niche or deeply analyzed, makes a lot of people instinctually cringe, and think what you want of that, that's the fact of it.
If you don't focus on the dick, you're left with a sexual element attached without anything to ground or excuse it, and that's even worse.
We're talking the exact same thing as having a female character have S-cup tits for the hey of it, claiming that "the cow tits add character". If you want to get off, do that all you want, but at the very fucking least don't pretend you're doing something else.

>>51225889
>Normal people have problems. Imagine yourself in a universe where magic exists.

And therein lies the best sorts of characters.

Normal people faced with abnormal problems. How a normal-ass guy with a couple talents overcomes the Lich King will, assuming the writing quality is the same, always be more compelling to read than the "Magical Celestial Fox" doing the same thing.

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>>51225870
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/disciplines-and-maneuvers/riven-hourglass-maneuvers

>By forcing your will upon the quintessence of the universe and acting within pockets of time so small that blink past within the gap between seconds, you turn time on its end and react to an opponent’s actions before they have even been made.

>You can initiate this counter in response to being targeted or caught within the area of an attack or effect. You can immediately take a standard action and a move action (or a single full-round action by combining them) before that effect resolves.

>While taking these actions, you can only attack or otherwise affect the originator of the attack or effect. If you reduce the originator of the attack or effect to 0 or fewer hit points with these actions, then the attack or effect (including parts of the effect that affect other creatures) is completely negated, having been prevented from happening at all. You cannot gain more than one standard action and move action per round this way.

It sounds like you're using the counter to create an attack of opportunity that lets you take a standard, move, or full round action, so yes.

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>>51225753
>he doesn't want to see a wide-eyed idealist's worldview come crashing down around them, and for everything to be going wrong at once
>only for them to get back up and keep trying to do the right thing, even when they have to drag themselves out of the metaphorical gutter

The most satisfying victories are the ones earned after everything has gone wrong.

>>51225977

Every PC should go through a character arc!

>>51225970
It's not an "attack of opportunity", it's just taking an action before the other guy's action happens.

>>51225870
My take on it is that It would provoke a Concentration check, per the "If you take damage while trying to cast a spell" clause and the "if it comes in response to your casting the spell" part of it.

>>51225937
>>51225952
>making "has a dick" be the ONLY fucked up thing about the character
>when tieflings are typically the ones with this problem
>when that same tiefling is also likely walking around with gross vestigial wings, a freakish prehensile tail, horns, scale-covered skin, goat legs, or any number of things

You can leave "has a dick" off for most groups, because it's not that big an element. But if you're seriously saying "no group can handle 'has a dick' as a concept and make an enjoyable, well rounded character without sperging out", you're overreacting massively. Just make it "one of the things the character has to come to terms with", don't put it in the spotlight, and boom. Done.

Nobody's objecting that it doesn't fit everywhere, with every group. They're objecting your insistence that it's TOTALLY ONE HUNDRED PERCENT IMPOSSIBLE for it to be handled well without devolving into ERP.

>>51225937
No I don't. Hermaphroditic people actually exist, in real life, and their existence does not center around their genitalia. The only differences between choosing to play a hermaphroditic character and choosing to play, say, a left handed character, is the rarity, and the sexual nature. The rarity is not an inherent problem, and the sexual nature need not be a focus, despite your claims to the contrary.

My argument is that you are claiming that the situation is black and white, and that your view, that a hermaphroditic character cannot be verisimilar in a non-sexual context, is the only correct view. It is not. Your experience is not monolithic, your perspective is not inherently valid, and your imagination is not all encompassing.

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>>51225989
The PC still has to take the hook for that. Most PCs are too paranoid to follow it.

>>51225999
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/combat#TOC-Attacks-of-Opportunity

I should have said like an AoO. It's interrupting the normal flow of actions in the round, and the counter is initiated before the spell goes off.

>>51226063
Just tell yourself that your character is a herm or a futa or whatever. If, for some reason, clothes come off (i.e you're being ripped to shreds), mention it! But also mention how you're being ripped apart and so you need health.

Also, general question, is 15 HP decent for a starting-out Barbarian? Will they die on a lucky crit?

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>>51226100
>The PC still has to take the hook for that. Most PCs are too paranoid to follow it.

B-But I love going for the hooks, even if they're going to get stuck in my lip and cause nothing but pain until I tear it out.

>>51226114
Yes, because you're level 1 and everything will die on a lucky crit.

>>51226114
That's basically it. It's something that, for most games, won't even come up outside of maybe PMs between players.

On the barb thing, that looks about average for level 1, but you'll still die to a lucky hit from certain things. Because level 1 is a terrible place to be.

>>51226128
W-well, at least the enemies will die on lucky crits, too!

What I meant to say is 'Will I die from being mildly poked a couple of times'. Not just crits. My bad.

>>51226143
Yes.

Because it's level 1.

>>51226143
No. 15 HP should be fine, especially since it'll go up to 17 when you rage.

>>51225870
It's easiest to look at that one in videogame turns.

You get a lock-on warning OR the big "this area will be affected" reticle appears on the ground where you are. This counter tells you this shit's about to go on, or rather, rolls back time a split second and freezes it for you to react.

You take your actions before anything else happens, and if you take down the one that triggered your counter, his meteor swarm never finished casting.

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>>51226063
... while it's not even about a dickgirl:

>yfw your group thinks you're an impressive roleplayer for being able to portray a decent, non-psycho-rapist so well, even though your character has a dick

>yfw you're starting to wonder if they maybe think it was some sort of "I identify as" when you said you were a guy.

I mean that particular roleplaying's utterly effortless for ... obvious-as-fuck reasons (I THOUGHT), and other than that odd disturbing bit the group's overall great... but... it's so weird...

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>>51226115
If my app gets accepted, you better have some eggs for me to fertilize. Otherwise, I'll be sorely disappointed.

>>51226293
A-anon, I think you responded to the wrong p-person!

But, m-maybe there will be some! I'unno.

What if I ran lewd strange aeons?

>>51226325
I've never played that before, anon, tell me more!

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>>51226293

I'm not a mermaid, you big dumbie! I don't even have eggs!

I like playing men who suffer, and continue to suffer until they get out of their funk to rise above their starting position and become great!

>>51226316
You're not barbmeranon? Oh... S-sorry...

>>51226347
You're the dummy for implying! why would a non-mermaid get a fishing hook stuck in their mouth? You big dumb dumb. Go away.

>>51226325

Strange Aeons is bad, I'd much rather see Curse of the Crimson Throne, Kingmaker or Wrath of the Righteous.

O-Or maybe Giantslayer with extra emphasis on big lusty Orcs and giants.

>>51226369
>You're the dummy for implying! why would a non-mermaid get a fishing hook stuck in their mouth? You big dumb dumb. Go away.

THE HOOK WAS METAPHORICAL, YOU LITERAL IGNORAMUS.

>>51226347
Silly anon. Girls have eggs inside them too.

>>51226325
I would apply.
I've applied to Molthune, Fluffy, Dragons, and Hell's Vengeance with: Adalina, Sohyon, Alaya, and Novennia respectively.

>>51226381
Lusty giants and orcs.

Do go on.

>>51226369
I am! But I didn't make that post!!! I don't have memes like those!

>>51225977
Wow! Those goalposts just broke the sound barrier!

>>51226427

Giantslayer is very heavy on using Orcs and Giants as enemies, and in fact takes place in "The Land of Rapists and Raiders."

Hell, there's some tough NPC woman in Book 1 that started adventuring as a young teenager and, when she came back to town 40 years later, had about 50 children with her, almost all of them from different fathers.

>>51226473
That's

Retarded.

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>>51226499

She's also an Oread, so her staying "youthful" that long makes a bit of sense.

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>>51226444
>goalposts being moved
>when it was a response to a post that amounted to "kys my man"
>which had no goalposts at all

Dragonborn DM here, I did the second session of my first campaign today, as far as I can tell my players liked it, but now I'm going to have to figure out how they're going to invade an encampment of thugs that deal in rare species trafficking and want to be the city's big name mob.

>>51226539
>now I'm going to have to figure out

No, if they want to do it they have to figure it out.

>>51226428
W-well the offer still stands! Someone's gotta keep the Merfolk population up!

>>51226567
No I mean I'm going to have to figure out the layout of the encampment.

Which is better for a sneaky skillmonkey, anons?
A free reroll to skills and attacks once per day, or the ability to be undetectable by magic while in stealth?

>>51226631
Second one imo. One reroll on things that aren't saves isn't too big, but magic can severely fuck you over in stealth.

>>51226525
The original statement was not about enjoying a character's victory after trials, it was about enjoying watching a character suffer.

>>51226631
The second.

>>51226631
Undetected by magic.

I've got a question, pertaining to a potential application for Hell's Vengeance.
What's a good gestalt for a lewd inquisitor, to help him survive rusty dagger shanktown?

>>51225525
Legitimately Ricktor.

>>51226671
Barbarian, Fighter, Paladin all have good BAB and saves alongside relatively high hit dice. None fit perfectly.

>>51226671
Perhaps an Empyreal Sorcerer for the extra Mage Armour, bloodline powers and the like!

>>51226671
Fighter. Or Barbarian.

But don't bother. The DM said the next accepted app will be a full caster.

>>51226671
>Inquisitor
>wis based
Unchained Monk.
I don't know if PoW is allowed in that game, but if it is, OD Warder.

>>51226711
>>51226709
This anon brings up a good point on some based mage armor.

>>51226671
Stalker, Mystic, or Ordained Defender Warder. Ordained Defender is the most in theme and the highest defense.

>>51226689
Why, onii-chan?

>>51226523
I thiought she was a human? Isn't she the same one who had the Iconic Warpriest as one of her kids?

>>51226726
He's interesting tbqh senpai

>>51226711
He said "a full caster might be nice", not "I'll only take a full caster". He was looking for good backstory and a good timeslot over all else.

>>51226717
One of the accepted apps is a Zweihander Warder. So yes, PoW is allowd.

>>51226671
I bet you could do something interesting with a gestalt with druid.

>>51226711
When'd he say that?

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>>51226739

I thought she was an Oread because she's huge, almost jet-black, and spent an absurdly long amount of time getting knocked up.

>>51226753
Last thread. But still give it a go! If you've got a primo time slot and a good enough character, you may manage it without being a caster!

>>51226775
>>51226753
see here
>>51222025

Is there any reason why I /shouldn't/ homerule Wild Empathy to allow Handle Animal checks to be used like Diplomacy except on animals?

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>>51225385
>>51225311
don't you dare talk shit about the single greatest bard in fiction and the girl who was waifu'd so hard that she saved all of humanity

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>>51226523
>>51226473
>>51226499

>>51226769

she's a mountain, oreads are small fry

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>>51226806

>mfw lewd Giantslayer campaign

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>>51226840
no, no, it's not giants layer

>>51226665
>enjoying watching a character suffer is automatically edgelord shit
>it cannot also mean you enjoy seeing them overcome the suffering

well time to kms, I guess I can't enjoy entire stories anymore

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>>51226831

Yeah, a mountain that's been excavated more than a couple hundred times.

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>>51226801
>he didn't listen to his song

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>>51226859
It could be.

Is it believable to say your character murdered someone when they were just a lowly commoner? What if they had the element of surprise and the target was drunk and unarmed?

>>51226897
Rusty dagger shanktown lads.

>>51226897

>Is it believable to say your character murdered someone when they were just a lowly commoner?

what the fuck am I reading

Man, this thread looks completely different after masturbaiting. You guys need some perspective.

Also, whos hype for Dragon Game?

>>51226919
I still need to apply FUCK

>>51226897
>Is it believable to say your character murdered someone when they were just a lowly commoner?

Of course you can.

>>51226893

Flustered giantesses for the men, and buff orcs or giants for the women.

PERFECT.

>>51226897
Commoners can kill PCs if they're equipped with a dagger and crit. A wizard has d6+con, so if they had 7 HP a single hit can bring them to negatives.

If they were caught unawares, it's well within possibilities to roll 19 or 20, confirm and roll a 4 for damage.

>>51226897
The idea that a commoner couldn't kill somebody is one of the things I hate about PF.

>>51226913
Dude, commoners fucking suck.

>>51226919
I want to apply, but I know it's a wasted effort so I won't.

Hopefully someone soon announces a new game.

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>>51226956

>>51226952
Target would've also been a commoner, just an older, bigger guy.

>>51226861
Read >>51225573
That is edgelord shit with no mention of the overcoming of suffering. It is not enjoying seeing them overcome suffering. There was edgelord shit, you were told to kys, you shifted the goalposts, you were called out on it.

>>51226980
If two commoners attacked each other with intent to kill, one of them would die.

>>51226944
>tfw a cute giantess follows the party back to the village because she's enchanted by the bard's performance.

>>51227020
My dude is just going to go stone-cold thuggish on this dude while he's drunk, and just whale in him with a mallet after ambushing him in an alley after a piss break.
Could it be believed?

>>51227046

No, it is impossible for the average person to kill a drunk guy with a mallet.

>>51227046

are you drunk

>>51225570
Can you combine Excessive and Extreme?

Damage falloff seems to be significant before 13:
At level 7 your time would become epoch blast for 8d3. However, you can't handle going esoteric yet; you can reduce costs by at most 3 (Infusion Spec 1, focused mode 1, Buffer 1/day).

Your no-burn options are as such:
0-cost infusion with focused composite onslaught: 1d3 x (8+1)
simple focused onslaught with excessive: 1d4 x (4+1+2)

9d3 can get +9 if you've got that greater ring, 7d4 does it with the cheaper version too but gets just +7. Add in onslaught (4 and 3 respectively on single targets), +2 CON, and +4 deadly aim and we have these two choices:
9d3+19 (37) Burn 2(0) vs 7d4+16(33) Burn 1(-1). This is *dangerously* low, but you ARE using the untyped energy blast with the lowest damage base. A regular d6 blast instead would be looking at 50 damage or 40 for the simple.

At level 9 you get a bit of a break, but you were heavily behind. Your dice go up by 1s/2c, everything gets +1/die, and +1 blast from burned. free-burn capacity goes up by 1. CON can probably safely be said to be at +3 for energy by now.

Your numbers become:
Amplified Simple Excessive Onslaught: 9(1d6+9(targeting)+9(ring))+3(CON)+4(DA)+4(onslaught) = 60.5
Excessive Epoch Onslaught: 14(1d3+14+14+3+4+6) = 69
Esoteric Onslaught (4-3 burn): 7(1d8+14+7+7+3+4+3) = 69.5
Still very, very low.

This is where the loss of haste and rapid-shot hit the archetype the hardest; those are what the enemy HP growth banks-on/assumes.

At 13th you get to catch up but the most common mid-high levels of campaign ending are in a bad bad spot.

>>51227020
I believe you mean 'knock each other unconscious and stabilize.'

>>51227046
>whale on him

HVGM Here, taking questions on lunch break.

>>51227067
Man, commoners fucking suck, dude

>>51227091
Do you NEED a full caster, or is it just preferred?

>>51227091
How firm is that need for a full caster?
Also, how do you feel on different martial characters having a bit of overlap in their fighting styles?

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>>51227082

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>>51226984
>throwaway oversimplified one liner in response to throwaway one line question
>a complete judge of all aspects of a situation

I know this is /pfg/, but not everything is immediately jumping to the worst possible extreme imaginable, you know.
Fuck, I'd just let it lie, but it's still honest to god better a better conversation than the shit normally in this thread.

>>51227074
Level 7 is below half health of -1CR target. Do not use time element.

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>>51227046
Now now, you didn't tell us this commoner had latent druidic abilities.

>>51227111
Prefered
>>51227112
I'm not obsessed with perfect party comps, overlap is okay

>>51227123
HOLY
GRAIL

>>51227147
Inb4 it fucks a cat

>>51226859
>>51226893
>>51226944
>>51226840
>>51226473
>>51226427
>>51226381
The first couple of books do have some orc and half-orc waifus
Book 3 has a Giant cleric waifu
Unsure about book 4, but so far we've found a Female Red Dragon, though her waifuability seems a tad dubious for now.

>>51227091
Had a chance to look at the lfg page yet?

>>51227176

How many opportunities are there to include lusty orcs or lewd giants?

>>51227147
Reminder that Wailord is lighter than air. Fucker would float.

>>51227091
Have you narrowed down the apps a little- have you figured out which ones are the contenders for the final spot?

>>51227133
With or without time, it's clear the lowest levels of the onslaught sniper suffer from the same problem the regular kineticist suffers from; a low damage rampup only compensated for at 13th from quicken metakinesis.

It's clearly being balanced around a twin+quicken combo, but that doesn't come online... EVER, in most campaigns.

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>>51227074
Okay, I might be adding the following feat to LK 2, I'd like to experiment with it here:

Legendary Kinetic Acceleration
“Oh, you should see me when I get going…”
Prerequisite: Character level 7th
Benefit: Whenever you are affected by a haste spell or effect, you can fire 1 additional blast. In addition, when you use the onslaught blast class ability while affected by haste, you can increase the reduction of a blast’s burn an additional 1.

>>51227231
>>51227206
Been at work for 2 days, final picks are tonight, with a surprise!

>>51227259
Eeep, HVGM, you're getting me so excited!

>>51227259
>surprise
I-is it that we're all getting in?

>>51227296
SURPRISE THE GAME IS CANCELLED

>>51227176
I forgot to mention also there's a knight chick you rescue from orcs in a tower. As well as a dwarf girl afflicted with a Curse of Insanity, whom you could potentially save and have follow and escort your party, though she's generally obsessed with rescuing her brother.

>>51227213
From what I've experienced as a player, not many. You spend most of the AP on the move, torching and wrecking soldier and training camps. The first book you spend almost exclusively in Trunau, but after that you are moving across long distances on boats and cairrages.
You could potentially add more female assistants to the one Orc Oracle chick in book two, but that would be a stretch. Further you can possibly include more female acolytes at the Cathedral aside from the one, but that wouldn't work too well either.

There are a few prison and slave arena in the different camps that the Orcs and later Giants have, so you could potentially have a battle-waifu/punch-girl there

Or perhaps you can have a witch as a slave to the Hags dwelling in the Druidic Sanctuary.

Realy, if you want a waifu you either have to work extra hard to salvage one, or beg your DM to make one.

>>51227259
> with a surprise!
It's being Cancelled?!

>>51227296
DOUG IS THE FINAL PICK

>>51227347
>Realy, if you want a waifu you either have to work extra hard to salvage one, or beg your DM to make one.

Anon... I was talking about male Orc/Giant on female PC action.

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>>51227355
u fuckin' no it

>>51227355
>>51227385

y u guys so mean to doug tho? He just wants to join

>>51226966
>>51226966
You really think there are SIX applications better than you can make?

>>51227355
Wait, doug 1 or doug 2?

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>>51227355
>>51227338
I will find you. And I will kill you.

>>51227385
To his credit, he at least didn't come in saying he'd play someone else's character.

>>51227411

This is why I roll my eyes at the guys that say there's "no point" in applying to a game because it's got so many apps already.

Like, you're just trying to beat three or four other applications. Just because you aren't the best does not mean you still won't get picked.

>>51227411
Are you saying there isn't?

>>51227426
I really feel that I have the skills to play up Doug's darker, edgier side.

>>51227259
>final PICKS
M-more than one?!

>>51227426
And at least at least he didn't come in saying he wanted to play someone else's character because it was edgy, but he'd be happy to play any other character.

>>51227451
We both know you'd be a pale imitation.

>>51227372
So far the only one I can really recal is an Athatch that works in a training camp as Chef/Tanner, the rest are really just forgetable throw-away badguys who just want to kill you.

In Giantslayer, everything past Book 1 is built for continuous murderhobo simulator

>>51227474
>We both know you'd be a pale imitation.
If he didn't think I'd be up to it, he shouldn't have listed his premade character and asked for people to apply to play him.

>>51227451
>>51227474
My character isn't even that edgy, though I'll admit it's a bit dark. But now that some fuckwit said so because he liked it everyone thinks it is now.

Chances of getting in are low at this point anyways, I'm looking at the other games I put in apps for.

>>51227521
He killed his own dad because the guy wasn't sad enough. That's sorta edgy mang.

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>>51227486

Well that's really disappointing!

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>>51227521
>Elven mother captured in Shoanti raid
>Raised as a bastard, treated differently because Half-elf
>Saved best friend during hunt with awakening of Psionic power, further ostracized
>Mother dies from illness, father is unmoved
>Gets drunk, confronts father, truth comes out, kills father in ensuing fight
>Runs away in self-imposed exile to the coast, and eventually Sandpoint
>Trying to find himself after his childhood had been a lie, practicing his unusual powers further

You're right, this is not even that edgy.

>>51226944
What if I want a buff gaintess waifu?

What's a good Cha-based fullcaster to gestalt with warlord?

Ok, so I'm an anon that posted the the idea for a Naruto shinobi class for a campaign I'm working on. So far its a kineticist with ninja class abilities added (except for no trace, which I'm just removing entirely.) Shinobi has omnikinesis removed and expanded element moved to levels 10 and 15, the second only applies to the most recently acquired element. Right now im working on separating air into air and lightning, and adding spells to make up for each. Aether is just removed entirely, and burn now applies to Ki, which works off of wisdom instead of charisma. How i modified ninja tricks go as follows;
>Poison use is added as a trick.
>All smoke bomb traits are removed and will be substituted by items.
>Ki block and charge are removed since kinetic fist/blade make up for that.
>Rogue talent options removed.
It acts as as a base for primarily ninjutsu user, however I have a plethora of archtypes added to add the rest.
>Taijutsu specialist is just the elemental ascetic archtype for kineticist, with kinetic fist made unique to it, and switches Ki to constitution.
>Genjutsu specialist basically replaces infusions with illusion wizard spells added as utility wild talents, with burn equal to half the spell level, wizard illusion powers replace internal buffer, and Ki is switched to intelligence.
>Ninja swordsman have a tengus swordlike weapon proficiency, and start the game with a masterwork swordlike weapon of their choice, as well as the kinetic blade ability, though it only applies to their sword. They get sword training (like fighter weapon training but specifically for swordlike weapons), which replaces infusion specializations.
>Medical nin is just the kiurgeon archtype, with kinetic healing made unique to it.
>Puppet master gets the aether puppet talent at first level, an inanimate construct, and craft skill bonuses to replace infusion specializations.
Any kernals of wisdom/criticism I can use to improve the class?

>>51227773
Oracle is always nice!

>>51227679
Let's be fair here. We can all come up with satirical bullet point backstories that are so goth they shit bats. Let the anon's own words tell the story if you want us to judge how edgy the character is.

>>51227773
Sorcerer?

>>51227773
Oracle is #1. Sorcerer or beguiler work too.

>>51227795
>Let the anon's own words tell the story if you want us to judge how edgy the character is.
>That description was taken straight from his app

>>51227558
Well, it's disappointing if you wanted something beyond a continuous murderhobo simulator. Story is not the strength of Giantslayer, but it has its ups in the encounter department.

>>51227886
>but it has its ups in the encounter department.
Please don't lie to anon now

>>51227244
I'd need to run the numbers on that, but it probably plugs a big damn hole.

One warning: current prerequisites and wording mean this:

A regular kineticist can take this to fire two full-scale real blasts. At level 7 that's 4d x2 or 8d x2 composites, while onslaught blasts are getting a single additional blast (thus from 4d to 5d or from 8d to 9d).

>>51228028
It'd been added to the playtest with Onslaught Sniper specific text, so it can't be used with normal kinetic blasts. I might have to tighten the wording some to make sure it's entirely clear.

>>51224705
How to I hide my vampire from the detect undead spell? Is there a spell or item I can use?

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>>51228028
Just to clarify: the extra burn redux and single extra die is probably good for the onslaught (thus the 'plugging the hole'). This was not a complaint that standard overtakes it. Mild clarification is probably good though to indicate if that's before or after omnistrike's x2 (should be before), and whether it's additive-to or multiplicative to burned blaster (ie; fire more volleys or adds to volley: it should obviously just add to the volley not multiply it).

>>51228304
>Is there a spell or item I can use?

Don't give them a reason to use that spell in the first place.

In other words, high Disguise and good roleplay.

>>51228322
That. It might sound like he's calling you an idiot if you don't stop and think, but it's actually the most effective first line of defense.

That detect's a vision cone, and you need reason to cast it; not like it's some perma-on sense.

People don't just stop, pull out their tricorder, and scan for negative energy brainwaves or something, unless they've got reason to believe they've got undead lurking nearby.

If people never *SUSPECT* that you're a vampire, chances are far better they'll never *FIND OUT*.

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>>51228309
It's all good, someone else brought this up to me on the paizo boards, which is why I originally wrote that feat, which is now known as kinetic railgun on the playtest.

I'm new to pathfinder and my group is going to start a game in three days. We are supposed to use 24pt buy and start at level 2. What class should I pick? I heard that casters rule the game and melee guys suck. The GM said "Core only".

>>51228488
>24 point buy core only
Your GM is an idiot. Play a wizard. Pick Color Spray and Sleep. Ruin his day.

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>be dm
>party consists pretty much completely of lawful good individuals that value the life of the party above everything else
>story arc is leading to a massive source of power
>every character wishes to use it for something else.
>one will want to destroy it due to its origin
>another will want to use it to resurrect a family member whose death he caused
>another one will want to use it to open a portal to his home continent
>another one will want to study it and use it to empower the party.
>every option will lead to a massively different outcome and approach to the upcoming final boss, which is essentially a frozen elder god.

Just thinking about how epic this is going to be gives me a hardon and I'm super stoked to see what the party is going to decide on. Every character's highest goal and raison d'être is essentially the option they could take, but on the other hand I can see none of the characters betray each other to be able to choose their desired option.

To bad I gotta wait another week before I can see them tackle this. Pic unrelated

>>51228488
Well, what do you want to do? Just vaguely saying "what class" doesn't tell us your desires for the game. Also, melee isn't THAT outclassed, especially at lower levels.

>>51228435
Hm... Only thing left is the quote doesn't feel quite right for this.

but
>"Electric Apparatus for Propelling Projectiles"
is probably a bit too lame (that's the original patent application, in those quotes)

>>51228542
Core only, anon. Rogues are nearly useless until level 8 and Fighter is the worst class in the game.

>>51228577
Oh riiiiiiiiight. Whoops.
Yeah then melee IS mega outclassed.

>>51225825
Well, don't hold out on us.

What's the best weapon for an app to HV, where I'm thinking of submitting a battle(or fitness) Oracle||Warlord? Remember that it starts level 1, so wasting a feat on exotic isn't preferred.

>>51228525
>>51228615
So, pick wizard plus two spells to spam. Won't that get boring after a while? I'm asking because I'd like a class that's fun to play. Looking at those spells wouldn't that immediately end most combats on the first round? That's boring.

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Is there a breakdown on the character types that applied for Dragons?

How many heavy armor martials are there, or sneaky slinky stab and stealy?

>>51228667
Tad out of date, doesn't have Fox Die

>LG Orin of the Silver Path | Human Knight Disciple Paladin // Unchained Monk(Scaled Fist)
>LN Kazuma Wyrmsson | Tiefling Sorcerer // Unchained Monk(Scaled Fist)
>LN Reina Traveler | Kitsune Steelfist Commando Warlord // Elemental Asceticist Kineticist
>NG Celisse de Avernon | Dragon Royal // Draconic Hero Cavalier
>N Spitfire Atolm | Dragon Onslaught Kineticist // Draconic Exemplar
>LN Zev | Silver True Dragon // Battle Butler
>NE Taninim | Dragon Mesmer // Draconic Exemplar
>CN Andus | Dragon Alchemist(Draconic Hero + Internal Alchemist) // Atomic Adept [first Chaotic entry: CN]
>CN Araeli | Dragon Royalty(???) Draconic Disciple // Unchained-Monk(Scaled Fist) / Aberrant Aegis
>LN Marshall Thorne | Human Fiendbound Marauder Warder // Aegis
>CE Kilroy | Human Unchained Rogue // Slayer. VMC Magus
>CN Minerva | True Red Dragon // Incanter(SoP)
>CN Atlas | Human Sorcerer // Shadow Assassin?
>NE Berrin & Sofia | Human Dragonrider(Harrier) // Cleric of Tiamat
>LN Lameeka | Kobold Alchemist // Unchained Hidden Blade Rogue
>LN Ifia Clytemnestra | Human Rough-Rider Myrmidon Fighter // Druid
>NG AND N Ozuul & Akaza | Kobold Vigilante // Betrothed Avowed
>NG Aisha Enkidu | Human Paladin // Synth-Summoner
>CG Alaya Swiftstream | Undine Undine-Adept Druid // Savage-Warrior Fighter
>CG Domeki | Tiefling Unchained-Rogue // Sorrowsoul Bard
>N Astarte | Titan Architect // Spell Sage Wizard
>N Ghyn Urrie | "Half Dragon Human" Two-Handed Fogjter Titan Mauler UCB

>>51228666
Is it more or less boring than dying instantly because you got instagibbed? Core only is horribly imbalanced, and there's very little fun to be had there.

Exactly how many splatbooks do I need to own (either physically or pdfs) and look through to play most games?

>>51228667
Speaking for myself here, Atolm is sneaky, but neither stabby nor really stealy either. No magic trapfinder or anything, just that he's got +8 racial on the sneaks.

>>51228707
Absolutely zero.
http://d20pfsrd.com/
http://archivesofnethys.com/
Just browse by what you're looking for, instead of having to dig through books.

>>51228697
Please explain three things. Why would I get "instagibbed", why is Core imbalanced (broad strokes), and how is it not fun?

>>51228707
None just use the SRD and archives of nethys.

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>>51228695

>mfw all those characters
>mfw only one of them actually seems like they'd wear heavy armor

I need to fix this.

I need to fix this now.

>>51228666
I prefer druids and bards myself in Core Only (which is a stupid way to play), but that's a personal thing. And levels 1 and 2 ARE easy shank land.

>>51228707
>pay for and own

Absolutely zero, you can get by with nothing but the pfsrd. If you REALLY want to get autismal, we have a trove of shit in the OP if you want to skim through the mountain of trash to find gems that never made it to the pfsrd for whatever reason (like a trait for longsword proficiency, a feat for +1 skill points a level, and a fuckton of archetypes and misc magic items).

>>51228726
>>51228736
But the information obviously comes from somewhere.

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>>51228733
... ...
you... you're kidding. right?

>>51228753
I've never played pathfinder before, so I'm not kidding. This is my first game.

>>51228707
>>51228750
Well yes they come from all of the Pathfinder releases. But you don't need to OWN anything unless you're playing in The Pathfinder Society.

>>51228753
He doesn't know anything about PF. That's why he's here.

>>51228750
If you need to know what book each feat, trait, race, class, etc. is from then it's at the bottom of each page.

>>51228733
Instagibbed: At low levels, and with only the options available in the core rulebook, there is nothing you can do to avoid getting one shot by any competent monster other than to win by using some of those combat ending spells.

Core imbalance: Martials suck. Plain and simple. The fighter has zero options, the rogue has zero tools, the barbarian can work but has little support. Wizards have a plethora of encounter ending spells.

Not fun: Because the enjoyment in Pathfinder comes primarily from varied competence, and that is not possible with core rules only. You are either one of very few competent builds, or you are dead.

What design of shield should a virtuous Iomedaean use?

>>51228695
>tfw none of my games get this many applications
maybe my friends have lied and i'm actually a boring DM

>>51228832
Thanks! I'll have to talk with my GM, after I research this elsewhere of course.

>>51228773
... Okay... still not sure if bait, but, just in case.

First, best and kindest piece of advice regarding pathfinder: RUN. RUN THROUGH THE SEA OF STARS, NEVER LOOKING BACK TO SHORE.

THAT SAID....

The CRB (core rulebook) is the least balanced of everything pathfinder. It has incomplete trap option classes (monk, fighter, rogue) and the biggest campaign-breakers (we call'em 'tier 1'): classes with abilities that can quite literally dictate large parts of an adventure. You might know them as "the classes who eventually attain level 9 spells".

You have to view the limited build and levels and stats as a resource in and of themselves: A character of level X has X feats, a list of class abilities, Y skill points, and so on. Those are all used to "buy" what you can do, whether that's "feat: weapon specialization" or "you can transform into a T-Rex".

For example; a Fighter can hit things hard.

But a wizard can either summon something that hits things hard while then going on to take other actions of his own, or make something that exists hit harder, or hit not very hard himself, or solve problems that don't require someone to hit someone else hard, like locked doors (easier and with less 'investment' of his character build/levels/etc), can determine WHERE the big quest macguffin is, can TELEPORT the party there (so much for all the encounters on the way), and so on and so forth. Same with the cleric and the druid. These guys can start saying "no. THIS happens" to the GM by around level 11-12, and were already ahead of the curve before they suddenly got to start dictating the narrative. This is the shit where you start being able to use the words "I wish", not as sarcasm or a remark, but as the start of a sentence.

Meanwhile the rogue doesn't get enough skill points to compensate for everyone else being just as capable with his skills but being able to grab a handful less... unless their Int is higher.

>>51228864

Heavy Steel Shield, a true tool for true chivalry.

>>51228733
>Why would I get "instagibbed"
Damage scales higher and is more easily avaiable at higher number than HP and AC in the beginning of the game, and it stays this way strongly for most of the game
>why is Core imbalanced (broad strokes)
Simple answer: Fighter can only do one thing as a class feature (hit things kinda hard), and nearly most other classes can do a dozen more useful things (such as ending combat at early levels with color spray, sleep, having high skill points to solve problems), and some classes can do your job just as good as you while still being able to do otherthings as well (such as the Clerics and Druids). Its even worse for Rogues and Monks, who can't even do their intended jobs well at all either.
>how is it not fun?
Basically, having your entire character be essentially rendered pointless, while other characters being infinately more competant and powerful than you merely due to the initial choice in class isn't fun, since it takes away player agency, narrative control, and the ability to participate and contribute evenly to the party skill set.
This forces GMs to have to actually know and understand the system enough to alter how the game functions in order to make sure everyone can have fun and an equal place to shine, however when a GM gets to that level they tend to realize its just easier to allow more balanced expansion content and abandon the Core only mindset entirely.

So generally, when a GM says Core Only, it usually means that said GM has know idea how the game actually works and is only making the restriction because they couldn't be arsed to study and learn the system proper or any other systems.

>>51228832
>>51228887
>>51228906
Oh my. Why is my GM trying to get us to play this bag of dung?

>>51228935
Because he's either an idiot, lazy, has no idea how Pathfinder actually works, is a Paizo cock worshipper, or any combination thereof.

So run, get out of there anon. Remember, having no game is better than being in a bad game

>>51228935
He probably has a bunch of house rules he'll implement to try and "fix" the game instead of using splatbooks and the two hundred avaliable classes outside of Core.

>>51228935
Why indeed.

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>>51228733
You likely have, at best, anywhere from 6 to 16 HP, depending on your class and CON score, at level. It is completely possible for any competent NPC with a 1d8 longsword and any kind of Str modifier to put you into negatives in one hit. God forbid a barbarian with a greatsword shows up. Level 1-3 is "rusty dagger shanktown" for a reason.

Core just has abysmal balancing, and the only things that even touch that are NOT core. It took the fighter several years and like, four splatbooks in order to jump up from "a worse barbarian" at best to "heeeeey, I can ACTUALLY DO THINGS that are unique now". Rogue had to be straight up buffed with Unchained in order to even hope to stand on its own. You know what else is in Core? Wizard and Cleric. You know what the can do? Cast Summon Monster.

>>51228935
As a whole entity, accounting for ALL the books, it's a bit better. Core Only is trash BECAUSE there's all these other options that at least attempt to bridge the gap, or at least provide alternatives. The problem is that there are retarded people who demand core-only for anything but an introductory session.

>>51228935
Sunk cost fallacy. Here's a tip you'll thank me for in the long run.
>Don't play pathfinder
>Don't play D&D
>Yes, you CAN learn a new system that does nothing the above two do and still have fun.

>>51228935
Honestly, I find Pathfinder to be a ton of fun.

But the issue is that the only reason it's fun is because there's so much available. "Core only" completely shits on that, eliminating the vast majority of usability and enjoyment options.

>>51228935
He probably thinks the core only book is more balanced because casters don't do as much damage, and the splatbooks make martial classes do heavy damage, which makes them seem broken if you think damage output and killing things is what makes someone strong.

>>51228971
>"heeeeey, I can ACTUALLY DO THINGS that are unique now".
But those are just reflavored wizards. Literally all the 'fixed' classes are reflavored wizards with small tweaks to vaguely represent the original class.

>>51229011
Ah, so you're either an idiot or a troll. Good to know.

you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

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>>51229011
I need more variety in this folder

>>51228741
Hey, Aisha pretends to wear heavy armor!

Is it ridiculous to have a dryad as a stepmother?

>>51229129
Humans get up to some weird shit, man. Your character's dad is evidently doing what he feels is a good idea.

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>>51229088
this good?

>>51229129

No, in fact I'd consider having one a fascinating backstory element!

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>>51229101

Sounds like I've got an opportunity to get on some heavy armor, grab a heavy weapon, and just HUNK it UP.

>>51228887
Now, that's the 'balance' bit.
Instagibbed? That's what we call "rusty dagger shanktown". The fact that at the lowest levels, it's not yet rocket tag, but rather, anyone is basically one good roll or at best critical away from going into the negatives, and people may not have the abilities or skills needed yet to make you NOT bleed out and die miserably.

For example, if your wizard has 7HP at level 1, and a goblin does 1d4, then on average hits, you're bleeding out from three. two GOOD hits or one CRITICAL will also put you in the negs.

This may not seem TOO bad at first glance, but it's when we average things out over multiple campaigns that you see a serious issue: That one goblin is dead and will be replaced in the next encounter with goblin mooks, but your wizard needs only to die once to be dead. From nameless faceless bobbleheads, you're already potentially one hit from being dead when you are killed.

Meanwhile you're being just as bad for the encounter: a sleep spell could put a handful of gobbos into sheep-land. That ends things. The encounter will either end then and there as the party slits their throats and loots them, OR there were enough that if you didn't the party dies (still making that wizard the pivot-point), OR you fail, there were enough to deal with the party, and now they all get to act and half of you could croak on the spot now.

And that's at the earliest levels. EVERY encounter has these problems.

Later on though? Eventually even the fighter can start tearing two or three of those buggers apart in a single turn. Reliably at that. But the things attacking back? Same deal. Meanwhile things start getting "save or die" abilities, or "Save or you may as well be dead" most of the time instead (like charmed, paralyzed, impregnated by their tentacled lust, etc).

>>51229129
As long as you don't leverage for a retarded stat bonus, and aren't too mary sue about it, its cool

>>51229155
>Your character's dad is evidently doing what he feels is a good idea.
Character's dad literally takes the knot.

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>>51229199

Don't you mean his character's dad is pollinating her flower?

Giving her the morning dew?

Eating her fruit?

Suckling her nectar?

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>>51229219

>>51229195
Only mechanical effect is going to be explaining why my half-elf character knows elven despite being raised by an adoptive human father from birth.

>>51229159
Cool, I figure she helped my character when he was lost in the forest as a young child, and that's how she met his father, and they've been together ever since.

>>51229155
>>51229199
>>51229219
I thought it sounded cute. Now you guys are making it weird.

>>51229176
Mountain go! And stay go! This is noblebright land!

>>51229244
>Only mechanical effect is going to be explaining why my half-elf character knows elven despite being raised by an adoptive human father from birth.

Sylvan.

A Dryad would speak Sylvan, not Elven.

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>>51229088
My personal favorite.

>>51229260
Oh hell, that's true. Hmm...I guess that's better? It's a rarer language, which can cut either way, right?

>>51229129
>well honey, you need to something to suckle, and she wanted the honey, so, uh, yeah. she raised you.

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>>51229246

>Implying a huge hammer-wielding stag knight isn't noblebright

>>51225091
I wish you'd stop posting them in /trash/.

>>51229246
That's not the Mountain, that's Robert Baratheon. Also known as Noblebright King in Grimdark Land.

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Oh, howdily-doo anons!

You may or may not remember me, but I'm the anon who said he would be working on a retooling of the Armorist to not be so trash.

Now, I currently have an initial alpha version available for commentary and criticism ready for ya'll. Please feel free to comment on either the document or to this post on any issue or problems you see with the armorist. Further, I would also welcome you guys to post any ideas you would want to see for any new arsenal tricks as well.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NyV2ScbDMk7WHwLQt8z8MVfBQfBsiVa3pykH_tcTGMY/edit?usp=sharing

Also, as of now I'm still not too married to the current art, so if you have any decent armorist art as well, please feel free to share those as well!

>>51229336
Well now I feel silly for my ignorance

>>51229246
>This is noblebright land!

>Implying my boy Bobby isn't noblebright

>>51229320

What would Robert even be in a gestalt, or statted out?

I'm figuring a Warlord || Fighter (Two-Handed?)

>>51229360
Three ways to figure it out.
1) Filename is Stormlord, which means the Lord of Storm's End, the Baratheon stronghold.
2) Stag emblem on his garment means he's a Baratheon.
3) Horned helmet is a signature of Robert.

He's missing the warhammer that's Robert's signature weapon, so it's possible that it's supposed to be a different Baratheon, but the Baratheons are one of the noblebright families in A Song of Ice and Fire.

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What the fuck is this all about

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>>51229471
>so it's possible that it's supposed to be a different Baratheon

It's Lyonel Baratheon, also known as "The Laughing Storm."

Here's the full picture featuring Sir Duncan The Tall, Lord Commander of the Kingsguard.

Baratheon is a big boy, Duncan's closer to seven feet than six, and Lyonel's still got a few inches over him.

>>51229509

It's literally an excuse to make pure dungeon crawls with no story or substance beyond "dude, dice, LMAO."

>>51229511
Thanks! I'm not too familiar with the SoIaF 'extended universe,' as it is.

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>>51229088
My folder's getting there.

>>51229531
Aw, lame
I was going to use it as a fast-travel type thing, but I couldn't find anything about it beyond a level 12 PFS module

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>>51229534
>I'm not too familiar with the SoIaF 'extended universe,' as it is.

Oh gosh, it's actually one of the best things to come out of the series in the last five years! I highly recommend getting "A World of Ice and Fire," it's one of the few books that made me feel like I want to read more stories in the setting than just Westeros. It will also probably give you more than a few campaign or setting ideas!

The art is also consistently fantastic.

What are some depraved things a Taldan noblewoman would do with a hapless commoner that she wants to add to her list of sexual conquests?

>>51229607
Weed.

>>51229607

Pegging or rough anal followed by deepthroating.

She might get off on using him as a guinea pig for all the abusive shit she couldn't pull on a courtier. At the same time, she might get off on using him to play out her darkest fantasies of being just some blue-blooded bitch that needs to be fucked down a few pegs.

>>51229607
Hand-holding and cuddling.

>decide to finally look into this whole Spheres of Power thing
>get link from pastebin
>Sorry, the file you requested is not available

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>>51229637

>>51229668
http://spheresofpower.wikidot.com/

>>51229668
http://spheresofpower.wikidot.com/

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i need help to re-class a character. Played her once and decided part of her character was not well presented so:
Thurag is a LN Rogue unchained(Thug, Hidden blade) 3/Magus(kensai(Whip)) 1 Hobgoblin(fearsome).
Thurag comes froma tribe of Asmodeus worshipping hobgoblins that believes in slavery as a reasonable form of crime punishment. When a runnaway slave kills her father, she goes to hunt the criminal to bring them back to the hobgoblin Justice.
The only problem is that the concept fits far more a rogue 3/inquisitor 1 than a rogue 3/ magus 1, but the kensai gives some much needed feats for a functional whip/intimidation build and also the Wis from the inquisitor might make a 25 point buy character too MAD. any help with feats, maneuvers and general comment would be greatly apreciated (the DM let her be part of the black thorn knights so black seraph is preferable)
Paizo+dreamscarred press are allowed

>>51229637
>Pegging

What sort of dildo technology exists in Golarion?

>>51229773

Nothing a Craft check can't do!

>>51229773
Wooden phallus covered in specially treated, taut leather; held in position by simple straps. About as basic as you can get with regards to that sort of activity.

>>51229813
Why not glass, anon?

>>51229838
Masterwork quality.

>>51229813
>covered in specially treated, taut leather

Why leather? You'd be amazed how smooth a shaft of wood can get with a lathe and some sandpaper.

>>51229843

You can't apply the Masterwork quality to glass?

>>51229879
A masterwork strap on is just made of glass.

>>51229901
Why not adamantine?

>>51229860
Because how smooth is it going to be with repeated use? And how smooth does it have to be to avoid getting splinters in your no-no hole?

>>51229914
More like a yes-yes hole, amirite?

>>51229909
Most people don't have buttholes with DR.

Alright, I'm drinking malt liquor and writing my character's fucking backstory, /pfg/. So far I've got:

>Amanandar
>Hunter
>went to prison when he was younger for murder
>has a goddamn T-Rex
>crossed several continents to stab mummies in the dick.

How do I enhance this motherfucker? Are waifus good to start with or should you find them later?

>>51229936
but when a barbarian king really needs satisfaction...

>>51229936
Hey, you never know. Maybe your iron golem waifu wants to explore insertion into her waste disposal port.

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>>51229773
Considering masterwork tolls are a thing, and this is a Taldan Noble, something like this.

What monster class do you want to see DSP publish next?

I want the aranea.