So I just read Dune, and, though this will probably just become /pol/, why does he describe Paul's foreseen conquest as a jihad?
Is it just a part of Herbert's worldbuilding, utilizing both Christian and Islamic references? Or is it some kind of interpretation of how, to a Western audience, a Crusade creates a more positive image while a Jihad sounds more negative?
Or am I just reading too much into this?
>>51152781
>So I just read Dune, and, though this will probably just become /pol/, why does he describe Paul's foreseen conquest as a jihad?
Because the Fremen-Atriedies dynamic is very clearly inspired by the whole "Lawrence of Arabia" and revolt against the Ottomans (whom the Corrinos resemble more than a little), so since his army is mainly "space Arab", they use a term associated with Arabs.
I think before "jihad bad" and "crusade good" (lol) it's just a more foreign sounding word (imagine connotations of "jihad" BEFORE 9/11) that isn't necessarily hyper negative. It's a holy war on something. So more part of the worldbuilding and keeping in with the mystique herbert tries to keep around certain pieces of it.
>>51152781
>>>/lit/
Seriously what the fuck does this have to do with /tg/?
>>51152781
It's a matter of worldbuilding. A lot of eastern and western cultural ideas kind of rub together in the Duneverse. They had a lot of time to combine shit together, especially after the cultural reset button that was the Butlerian Crusades.
This was a time before jihad was seen as an attack on Western culture.
Ironically, anyone I've met who has read Dune pre 9/11 has a better tolerance for Muslims than most.
Herbert is also the only author that I've seen use the word in the correct context without it being anti-Western. (That being a religious and ideological war against your enemies. Not this hippy jihad for friendship propaganda.)
>>51152781
You don't get it, because you were probably a little kid before 9/11, and >>51156112.
>>51154662
>Seriously what the fuck does this have to do with /tg/?
...Dune?