Europe Japan Arabia Egypt These three account for 95% of fantasy

>>51096444
>europe
You mean england, there are next to no books based on the folklore of other european countrys. Want to know why the whitcher was so popular and thought of so diferenet? It was not based on anglo-saxon folk lore
>Arabian
So-so, also a very subsect of arabian mythology

I'd like to see some south american motives, and maybe some stranger african motives

>>51096444
>three
OP. You fucked up. Also, how about ancient India? War elephants, naga's, crazy death discs, flaming four armed mother fuckers, all this crazy shit.

>>51096444
>list 4 settings that are mostly wrong
>These three

wow. open some books, even here on 4 chan there are 5 "How would you run a setting based on XXX ?" thread a day

>>51096444
Could go for some odd twists as well as new inclusions

>Carthage
>Byzantines
>Phoenicians
>Babylonians
>Persians (pre-Islam)
>The Stans
>India under the various warlords
>China under various warlords
>Classic Korea
>Ancient Siam?
>Tibet
>Various Native American Tribes
>Aboriginal Tribes
>Classical African states like Kush, Zimbabwe, Songhai, Mali, and Sokoto, etc.
>The early Frankish kingdom
>The collapsed but still technically Roman Rome?
>Maybe get some more theocratic states?

>>51096444
Byzantium.

>>51096444
Finland

>>51096444
what do you mean other cultures than European?!

>>51096697
This, maybe with /his/ unique twist of the ancient Finnish empire vs Hyperkorea?

>>51096444
Texan culture with Japanese mythology

>>51096838
As a Texan, those two radically conflict with one another. I can't see a realistic way of doing that.

>>51096444

I've always wanted to see a good Mesoamerican setting, containing influences from Mayan, Aztec, Zapotec, and Toltec cultures.

The problem with doing this, however, is that their cultures and mindsets are RADICALLY different from us English-speakers/Europeans, so most people simply don't know how to actually DO it right.

>>51097958
>so most people simply don't know how to actually DO it right.
No people know how to do it at all, actually. There are virtually no primary sources. We understand them for fuck-all.

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>>51096838
>>51097958
>Texan culture with Japanese mythology

You can check out Saiyuki for a cribbable idea idea or two. Yeah it's Journey to the West but you ARE flexible enough to know how to tweak and swap out, right?

Pic related.

>>51098327
>There are virtually no primary sources. We understand them for fuck-all.

That's true, but then again the Spanish sources are nowhere near as biased as many people believe, if only because the Spanish had no incentive to lie - any and everything they did was justified because it was done in the name of God and Spain, so why fabricate things? It's not too dissimilar to the Romans in their own histories - they don't shy away from the bad shit, because they believe that anything Rome does to somebody else is because they deserve it.

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>>51096653
none of these are interesting nor cool

>>51101625
>Babylon.
>Not Interesting.
kys.

>>51101625
ur a funny dude

-51101625

Your lack of imagination is so shit that I'm not even going to dignify it with a (You)

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>>51101625
Wut?

>>51096653
>Classical African states
>states

Gets me everytime.

>>51101966
>posts a pic of ancient ancient greece but with subhumans instead of greeks
>muh unique setting!!!

>>51102097
Wut? This piece of art was done with info from Herodotus's Histories, specifically things about the Babylonians.
>>51102062
Why? Sure they probably are not on par with Europe in many regards but they forged a fair number of empires, kingdoms, sultanates, caliphates and otherwise over the course of centuries and had contact with the wider world fairly commonly. Hell, an African king crashed the Mediterranean market by flooding it with gold on his Hajj to Mecca as well as establish a major university and several holy sites.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musa_I_of_Mali

>>51102097
t. knows nothing about ancient history

>>51101625
>Byzantium
>Franks
>Post-Roman Empire

Are you really that much of a retard that you can't even shill your amazink yuropeen settings properly?

>>51101966
>That moment when you forget to appraise your jewels and jewelry, so you have to do it literally last second and risk not getting the wife you want.

>>51096444
>Europe is a culture

>>51102212
i know enough to identify pseudo historic bullshit such as interaction between sand niggers and regular niggers

>>51102254
>woohoo christianity!!!!! DEUS VULT XDDD

>>51102255
Pretty much. Or they are grading them to make sure they aren't fake or of poor quality for the sale.

>>51102295
Do you even know where Babylon was and what countries it traded with?

>>51096653
You purposely named Aboriginal tribes.

I would like to see an example of how you would do this.

>>51096444
INDIA, BECAUSE ITS MYTHOLOGY IS PRETTY FUCKING METAL

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>>51096815
>>51096697

>>51103060
hmm according to the painting >>51101966 somewhere near what is now modern day congo rep

>>51096444
If you can read Mandarin, then you will find Wuxia or fantasy China made up of 95% of the current literature been produced.
Not even a joke since many of those Chinese produce a chapter nearly daily.

>>51096444
Uhh, China? Oh wait, that accounts for 95% of the remaining 5%. Still too mainstream.

Fucking hipster.

>>51100454

Its Journey to the West with pretty boys effortlessly killing everything in their path and with the super-power to always find the most dramatic high places to stand on for their entrances

Its so much better than the effeminate fop high school shit that permeates most animu nowadays

>>51096444
America

>>51103258

Most of the time Oriental style settings are 90% China with Ninjas and Samurais making up another 9% and if you your lucky a 1% addition from other places. Like you might get Tae Kwon Do as a martial art option in your NotChina or access to Thai ladyboys but never more than that

Poland is a top tier country for all uses, and the shame of the world is that it does not have a higher profile.
Cyberpunk in a post-marxist kleptocrat 80s flavored Poland.
Polish legendary monsters
Polish heroes who bravely fight the muslim hordes and overreaching french and germans.
Poland is the greatest nation in Europe.

>>51103372
Then be the first Polish author to write all that to the masses.

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MACEDONIA

Or, if you don't want to be ambitious, just Greece and Scythia

>>51102097
>>51102295
>>51103197

the poltardation is strong with this one

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Not a culture, but the Age of Exploration or Neo-Colonialism would make awesome settings to draw inspiration for fantasy from. People charting out the world looking for the Fountain of Youth, a city of gold, the heart of the jungles of Africa where there gorillas are mythical creatures.

>>51103131
Aboriginal shamans who imbue magic into boomerangs and use didgeridoos to summon rainbow snakes, ride Dire Thylacines, and enter/exit 'Dreamtime' to renew their mystical powers?

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I really appreciate what this thread is going for, but if I may be contrarian:

You should focus on whatever cultures interest you personally. If you're a history nut and would love to learn about Batricia or something, that's totally fine to add a little spice from what you learn to your game world. But even if your players appreciate it, what if they don't understand it?

The places OP mentioned are very familiar in terms of how their society is and how they live, at least in the media people indulge in. Most people know about knights and samurai, shoguns and caliphs, a vague sense of the crusades. But if you throw something at your players that they can't understand and would have to learn about just to play as, it'd be more difficult on them. And if you just arrange things like familiar lords and ladies but with Indian or African trappings, it's cheaper than you'd really want it to be.

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I'm really into stone age, bronze age, mesolithic etc. cultures. I'll dump whatever random ass pics I've got lying around.

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tlingit armors

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>>51104364
tlingit armor reinforced with chinese qing dynasty coins acquired through trade.

>>51104354
>>51104364
>>51104389
Man, why were the Northwest tribes so badass. I mean, even their halibut fishing hooks look sick

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>>51104405
yeah they get underrepresented because they didn't write shit down. they had a pretty sophisticated culture going on around the sound and north, with master artisans that you find in complex civs.

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some mediterranean helmets from the bronze age

>europe
hurrdurr. Europe isn't a country, yank. You compare a culturally extremely diverse area to countries and an area that was relatively homogeneous.

Europe has plenty of cultures not used in Fantasy. Hell, even some common tropes like Norse mythology isn't used that well beyond the "hurr blondes and vikingz! valh.. SOVNGARDE!!"

>>51104354
Shit man, so am I. I've been having a lot of fun running a bronze age Mediterranean and Levant inspired game. Lots of interesting history and myth there to work from.

>>51096444
Replace Arabia and Egypt with Greece and Nordic Cultures and you're right.
Well mostly I guess.

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>>51104198
If you flesh it out properly and explain the society you won't have this problem. The players may not know which civilization you gained experience from or the actual history of it but they should get how your fictional society works and looks like.

>>51104624
Which means there is a lot of opportunity for new authors like yourself to write and explore in.
Why do faggots whine about their make-believe not being represented much in media when it is very easy to publish writing currently?

Don't behave a leech and do what you want to be done.

>>51104624
Would you be so triggered if he rounded all of africa as one. Im sure he knows theres differences in europe so calm down.

What is so different about the Franks that we dindt used yet on settings based on anglo-saxons?

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Mexican culture. You and your party look like this and you wrestle demons and shit.

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>>51104707

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the mystery of the bronze age and native america is a huge inspiration for my settings, and I try to make remote civilizations as wild as the aztecs would seem to a european who came upon them.

>>51104397
Man that's a huge hat. He must be really important.

>>51104738
Were hats to his culture like pauldrons in WoW?

>>51104738
"Mexica captain", so apparently he has importance.
Alternatively, he has huge guts.

>>51104696
>Would you be so triggered if he rounded all of africa as one
Yes.
>Im sure he knows theres differences in europe so calm down.
I'm not uncalm. The whole Tolkien-esque fantasy being the norm coupled with the "anything unique or unexplored can't be European because the norm happens to be based on European culture" attitude has kept a lot of interesting European cultures out of the spotlight.

>>51104687
>criticize a genre
>get called a leech
?
>Why do faggots whine about their make-believe not being represented much in media when it is very easy to publish writing currently?
This is what this thread is about. What are you on about?

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>>51104700
Franks under Charlemagne had stopped muslim invasion of france and its in his empire that modern universities were set up. It wouldn't compare to the true reinsance but they had themselves a mini one under him. Also they used cav alot more where as Anglo-Saxons didnt as much.

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aztec death whistles are pretty cool. used for intimidation purposes before a battle.

>>51103196
Spurdos and gondolas will be minor nature spirits.
There are cool stuff in finnish mythology and culture beyond these ebin memes
Born from the cold, now it's celebration time...
... The spirit of Ukko will burn with us tonight!

>>51104761
Main thing I dislike is when DOCUMENTARIES depict either punic wars romans, marian era romans and late era romans with fucking segmemata

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>>51104795
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9QuO09z-SI

youtube link to a demo

>>51104805
Speaking of Romans, I'm annoyed in general how hard it is to find information about the Roman Kingdom. Roman Republic? Sure, tons of info. Roman Empire? Even better. But nobody gives a fuck about the Kingdom.

>>51102314

Byzantium was Orthodox, they ended up being the target of Crusades more often than the instigators.

>>51104813
Reminds me of that screaming chicken toy.

>>51104831
It's pretty interesting. The founding myth also throws a flat fuck you to the face of tards who think Byzantines weren't Roman because of race.

Most of Roman history pre sack of rome (by Gauls) is pretty unreliable.

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>>51104813
>Oh man what can a fucking whistle sound like-
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>51096838
>>51097958
>I've never watched an Akira Kurosawa movie or a spaghetti western.

>>51103372

Don't forget the legendary tales of a Polish builder and his cousin the Polish mechanic in a dystopian 201X London.

>>51103372
Witchers popularized polish (and slavic in general) mythology a lot.

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there was a time in the mediterranean where this was the common way to equip a soldier.

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atlatl was one of the most widely used weapons in prehistory, and probably the most deadly of them. I'm surprised they were never adapted to later warfare, and I've always been interesting in seeing tests done with steel tipped atlatl darts and armor. there's much more force behind a dart than a longbow arrow. they used to kill mammoths with this shit.

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throwing stick, a lot more dangerous than it looks. aboriginals used to fight with them, easily kill somebody if you hit them in a vital area.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFp6gpLiKAk

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bolas is an underused non-lethal capture weapon and hunting tool in many settings imo

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historical armor you'll probably get a kick out of

>>51096697
Not very interesting.

There is none fun visuals to be had, fuckton of forests, and tiny villages of farmer and hunters, with occasional magic smith or bardy type running around.

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>>51105080
u wot m8

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not bronze age but a great historical example of how exotic armor can appear in an isolated culture.

>>51105080
I have a fisherman nation in my setting that is heavily inspired by the finns. they are a nihilistic and humorous race, their religion being more comparable to an animistic science. this has very little to do with history and everything to do with an imaginary version of finland inside my head inspired by memes.

>>51104831
It's because we know little about the kingdom. We can use the mythos to base a more plausible story but we won't know extact details. We do know how ever they fought more like hoplites and a thing they did was with newly conquered lands they transported to population to rome and had romans colonize those outter settlements. It's a best example of keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

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Ancient Iberia.

Seriously, everyone knows that they were part of the Punic Wars, and generally about later Spanish history, but most people don't know about ancient Iberia for whatever reason.

Are they the most unique culture ever? No, they were actually influenced a lot by their neighbors and the Greeks. But damn if they aren't underused.

>>51096444
I'd love to see something based on Southeast Asia. It would be awesome.

>>51105167
Well, that's one thing. I was thinking more of stuff based on Finish folk lore and legends, and that's mostly pretty low-key.
Sure there is >>51105155, but that picture is probably one of the most action packed scenes of Kalevala, not really enough to feed a whole fantasy setting.
Then there are parts like the one where girl drowned herself because she was creeped out by that bearded guy there, which work less well as building blocks for a setting.

There is ideas to be taken there, but as a whole I think it lacks proper grandiose to build a whole setting around for.

>>51096653
>The collapsed but still technically Roman Rome?
Just say Russia

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>>51105242
you could use them as inspiration for a less prominent peoples. I do that allllll of the time when my characters are visiting some buttfuck island or corner of the map and there happens to be people there. I really like having ancient iberian and european megalithic culture looking stuff going on on islands in my current setting, for example, even though the people don't play any particularly large role in the setting and don't have a lot of material in history compared to some other cultures.

besibe finn culture is a bud good race i mean fug :D dum beasants lol m i rite :::DDDD

>>51105335

Goths =/= Russians, anon.

>>51105348
Sure, like I said there are good tools in there, but maybe not foundation.

Like, I've been thinking about fantasy game with more low key, shamanistic style magic rather than pewpew fireballs.
Curses, rituals, simple spells, and were I to go forward with it, I would definitely look up some magic in finish folk lore first.

>>51105335
I think he means Rome during exarchate of Ravenna

>>51105242
There's much more on Finnic mythology and religions than Kalevala. Kalevala is just an epic based on a few poems with a lot of inaccuracies. Witcher -style setting could be created easily

>>51104973
>Funny hat
>Too poor to afford the whole circular shield.
>Dressed in weird fashion.
>Seemingly sporting a mullet.

Yep, this is a balkan allright.

>>51104973
Well, that's a pretty reasonable equipment for a skirmisher.

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>>51104813
>mfw

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Aztec Elves Best Elves

>>51104624
It would be more accurate to replace 'Europe' on the list with 'Britain, France and the HRE, but mostly the HRE', in my opinion.

>>51102062
>West African Gold/Salt States (Mali/Songhai/etc)
>Ethiopia
>Kongo (pre or post conversion)
>modern Rwanda

>>51104700
>massive literary base to steal from in the chansons de geste
>Paladins of Charlemagne
>fighting Muslims

>>51096444
There are none.

You should use only these three, the rest are boring shit countries with no relevance, devoid of anything interesting. You all are actually forbidden from using them.

>>51104813
>~30 men blowing on these
>pauses to breathe are covered by other players
>incessant, mind-shattering shrieking coming towards you through the trees
jesus fuck

>>51104700
Southern France was much more strongly culturally related to the Romans for a long while, and you can see it in early art and architecture. Charlemagne even went out of his way to take some bits of ruins from Rome to build some cool shit back home. So you can have a bunch of early medieval people trying to live like Romans, and having a lot more Roman stuff around.

The north of France was a little more affected by the cultural trends up in Britannia, especially in art, but the Anglo-Saxons deep into that, not just getting echoes of the cultural trends.

Nigga, I have NEVER seen a single setting based on ancient Egypt. Also, what Europe? Europe is big and diverse, yknow?

>>51112438
Yep

>>51096697
>>51105080
>>51105155
>>51105167
>>51105242
>>51105348

A Finnish setting (assuming pre-Christian, Iron Age Binland) wouldn't be substantially different from a "viking" (read: Pre-Christian Scandinavia) setting. The manner of social organization and material culture was more or less the same. you've got a different language and religious systems, but even then there was significant crossover between Finnic and northern Germanic religion. The same could also be said of Balts and northern Slavs.

And yes, the Kalevala isn't proper "Finnish Mythology," but a collection of 19th century north Karelian folk tales stitched together with major plot inventions by Lönnrot. (not that this detracts from it; it's great reading).

The Sami are in a different category, but even then, you can't look at Sami society in the last several centuries to represent what their society would have looked like a thousand years ago. (they definitely wouldn't have been wearing clothes like in the pic above). Nor can you speak of Sami as a uniform group of hunter-gatherers, since there were settled societies of Sami-language speakers, e.g. the Bjarmians of the White Sea coast.

>>51096523
>You mean england,
suprisingly little of egland.
where is my unseelie, where is my keplies here are my red caps, etc
you are looking for vaguely Germanic.
we still need more slav fantasy though

>>51116592
Not a whole setting, but Egypt is really common as an ancient long-lost civilization, or a place for mummies and pyramids.

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>>51101625
you are a faggot.
>>51096653
>meantions frankish but no guals, celts or britians

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>>51119890

edit: Here's a good write-up for anyone (no-one) interested :

http://www.allempires.com/article/index.php?q=Viking_Age_Finland

>>51096444
One of these things is not like the other! one of these things is racist!

>>51104738
He was.

The hat was largely ceremonial, and could be easily discarded should needs must.

Also, Captains typically only fought other high-ranking soldiers or led the capture of massive amounts of poorly-armed civilians in slave raids. They didn't usually fight among the common soldiery, because honor compelled them to lead AND to allow their soldiers the chance for glory of their own.

Does Conan's Hyboria count as Bronze Age?

>>51120801
Stylish Iron Age set in post apocalyptic world.

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>>51101966

>>51104397
>enormous heavy overbalancing targetable weight on top of head
For what porpoise?

>>51123612

Gotta look cool.

Also, it's attached to his back, not his head.

>>51096523
>african motive

ooga booga bix nood dub ho muhfugga

Sounds awful anon

>>51110823
>Will Literally steal your heart.

>>51123655
Only awful thing here is your stunted, myopic brain.

>>51103166
plz gib more

>>51123896

ANCIENT GODS WITH MANY ARMS IN FLYING CHARIOTS CHUCKING NUKES AT MONSTROUS SNAKES WITH TWELVE HEADS *electric guitar solo*

>>51123655
>african blacks are like american blacks
>blacks are the only africans
But you're wrong.

Make a setting about wizards during the ancient era in the desert (babylon, egypt etc)
thinking something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVXy1OhaERY

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>>51105080
You could always have this thing running around.

>>51123612
It's like a banner more than anything else. Signals that he's important - he is a captain - and lets everyone know who to follow.

Also, it's made out of feathers and light wood. It's not that heavy. It's like saying a flag is an enormous heavy overbalancing weight.

Finally, I believe Aztec warfare was mostly based around capturing prisoners, rather than killing efficiently.

>>51096444
Why emulate a fantasy culture when you can do distant future and have different cultures based off 'ancient' pulp fantasy and sci fi? That way you can steal from everything.

>>51101468
Well, they did manage to burn about 90% of their written history.

>>51096523
There is hardly any 'English' folklore in general fantasy. Celtic, general Germanic, Scandinavian, Greek/Roman, high medieval France and such sure.

I god damn wish we had fantasy settings that were like Beowulf.

>>51124840

Because future settings (with very few and old exceptions) is more boring than pure fantasy and full of unfun things that mimic real life that people simply don't want to care about and rather forget about (taxes, social programs, politicians drama etc, gangsters)

People play in this hobby for fun and for escapism, not to relive their dreary existence in a more futuristic fiction.

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Inuit, Iroquois, Pueblo, Maori, etc

Elsewhere, slavic myth could use more spotlight. Sikhs are like a culture of badass lawful good monks. I have a fondness for persia since the 2009 PoP game

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>>51104813
I've seen that video a million times already and it works each time.

>>51120044
>im gonna fuk u up lad
>NOT WHEN I GO IN FULL BODY OVERDRIVUHG GLRUGH BLEAGH BLUGHUL HUERGH
>dude what the fuck oh my fucking god are you a human or a shoggoth oh my god aaaaaaaaaargh aaaaaaargh

Cu Chulainn was one crazy guy.

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>>51104813
Good lord

>>51097958
As a Texan aware of the history of the state of Texas, which included fierce range wars between cattle barons and sheep ranchers, as well as an uprising against the feudal militarized government of Mexico, I can see this working VERY well.

If your group mutually agrees a setting would be fucking rad, roll with it, OP.

>>51104738
>>51104749
Its the ancient version of team fortress

>>51096444
Pillars of Eternity was a mediocre game but it's got a really interesting setting that's basically fantasy colonial America.

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>>51104813

>see all the reactions to this
>assume anons are exaggerating for a bit of fun
>watch the video
>they weren't exaggerating

>>51104854
I'm confused about that - sure, the Catholics wouldn't like that they weren't listening to the pope, but I thought they had considered them to not be heretics.

>>51129953
The Venetians saw the Byzantine Empire as a rival in the Eastern Med.

So the Doge told the Crusaders he would transport them to the Holy Land if they sacked Constantinople first. This led to the 4th crusade being excommunicated.

More generally they had a tendency to be uncouth and disorderly when passing through the city.

>>51096523
>England
U fokking wot?

Seriously though, a lot of it is Irish and Germanic. Banshees, gnomes, faeries and shit.

>>51096444
Still not Africa

>>51105030
>promoting your own channel and product

whew lad

>>51124991
>There is hardly any 'English' folklore in general fantasy... I god damn wish we had fantasy settings that were like Beowulf.

>Beowulf

>Takes place entirely in what is now Denmark, southern Sweden, and the Netherlands.

>>51096537
A whole lot of people still consider that fantasy shit their legit religion, though.

>>51096444
Africa, Korea, India, native American.

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>>51104813
when will i learn that all the replies to a post say don't watch the video i shouldn't watch the video

when will i learn

>>51124991
>There is hardly any 'English' folklore in general fantasy.
There is exactly 0 English folklore that doesn't relate to village legends (like the innumerable black dogs of England), as the culture did not exist until 1066. If you're being generous.

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>>51096444
Maya

>>51105080
this fucking pleb

you do realize that the Kalevala, THE FOUNDATIONAL MYTH OF FINLAND, was one of Tolkien's main inspirations for LOTR, right?

RIGHT?

GANDALF IS VAINAMOINEN

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>>51096523
>Europe
>You mean england
>There are next to no books based on the folklore of other european countrys

>>51134083
>as the culture did not exist until 1066. If you're being generous.

Uhh...

>>51134124

The Kalevala isn't the "foundational myth of Finland," though. It's a story written in the 1800's based on stitched-together northern Karelian folklore and odd bits of surviving mythology.

You are correct about the influence of the Kalevala on Tolkien though, and the Vainamoinen-Gandalf connection.

>>51134338
Talking about English, right?

Prior to 1066 you just had Anglo-Saxons (a Germanic culture), and before them had been the Britons, and Cornish. Celtic cultures.

The English culture did not exist until after 1066. In large part because the English language didn't either.

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Fantasy Indo-Greeks when?

>>51134675
The pre-1066 inhabitants of Britain who lived in what is now known as England referred to themselves as "English." It was still called the Kingdom of England before the Norman conquest. They spoke the English language, albeit without all the input of Norman-French which we now have. These people didn't go anywhere, they just had a replacement of their aristocracy.

Saying that "English culture did not exist until after 1066" is insanity talk.

>>51135041

Edit: I should add, about that "replacement of their aristocracy"-part, many English nobility retained their titles and lands after the Norman conquest so long as they swore fealty to William.

>>51096444

I'd love to see the Vikings and Mongolian Horde team up to repel on the Maori as they invade SE Asia.

>>51135151
I think youbcan do that in Crusader Kings...

>>51096523
pre-colonial american folklore suffers from the same shit as pacific islander folklore. Everyone is omnipotent and every adventure comes down to who can bullshit whom into submission. Kinda similar to india but at least in indian folklore your magic bullshit has to make a minimum ammount of sense.

>>51104891
>Spaghetti western
>Texas
You're some hundred miles east.

>>51105184
As much as I hate to admit it, Spain was born with the arab invasions. Before that we were just less-crafty scrubland greeks.

>>51120019
That's classic Egypt, not ancient Egypt.
I think the closest we've ever had to ancient Egypt is The Scorpion King.

>>51137243
There was the Tartessian culture (mentioned in the Bible too!), the Celto-Iberian and Basque tribes.
After that came Carthage and Rome in quick succession and a fairly decent Romanization process.

Then came the Germans in the form of the Suebi and Visigothic kingdoms who were then beat the everliving fuck out of by Arabs and Moors who only got stopped due to a good blend of Charles Martel and internal conflict.

After that was the long Reconquista and the eventual formation of Portugal, Navarre, Castille and Aragon, the last two forming spain proper once Navarre was sliced in two between Castille and France.

And that's just scratching the surface!

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Can you imagine a Nordic, Scandinavian, nor-Germanic setting complete with Definitely-Not-Jews and Definitely-Not-Arabs fighting to preserve your culture and traditions against the impending encroachment of Definitely-Not-Christianity?

Anyone know if this latest version is any good? A friend of mine bought the first edition and it was replete with roomie 'babby's first rpg' mistakes.

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>>51104813
JESUS THE FUCK CHRIST

>>51131846
yeah bro I have bigger aspirations than carving sticks and selling them on youtube. that guy just happens to have the coolest videos of them. I wish there was some recording of aboriginal use, but by the time cameras were in australia aboriginals were doing 5% at best of what they used to do.

>>51104544
Their stone tools were really fucking good. Like, iron tools quality.

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>>51096444
Tekumel by the forgotten Tolkien M.A.R. Baker

I've worked on an adventure involving a not-Portuguese privateer crew and not-Korea.
Granted, it involves not-Japan as well, but as the enemy.

And if the players do things right, they get to fight alongside not-Yi Sun Shin.

>>51104718

The expression on the face of the fully armored guy. "Oh shit this armor seemed like a much better idea than it is!"

>>51131060
I get that, political powers are political powers, but why the church problems beyond 'they don't recognize the pope?'

>>51137243
But it's an interesting flavor of Greek, affected by their Roman and Carthaginian (themselves descended from Phonecians) neighbors.

>>51141504

The Catholic Church was a political power for most of history, especially so during the Crusades. Their main objection to Orthodoxy wasn't theological, it was that none of the wealth of Byzantium ever ended up in Vatican vaults.

Of course, there is the fact that according to Catholic canon, the Pope is God's appointed liaison with all of Christendom, and so not recognizing his sovereignty is a fairly major case of heresy. Orthodoxy was generally tolerated because it was a heresy backed with the military might of the Byzantine Empire, and Byzantium was the only real buffer between the Catholic kingdoms and the Muslim hordes.

But the strategic value of their heretic allies didn't stop the Crusaders from sacking Constantinople explicitly in the Fourth Crusade and generally causing complete and utter chaos every other time they passed through on their way to the Holy Lands.

It's best to think of the Catholic Church, at least for most of history, as a feudal state that used elective succession and appointment instead of bloodline inheritance. It was a political force first and foremost, and the moral authority was an afterthought, often simply providing justification for otherwise indefensible acts of underhanded statesmanship. The Pope was in competition with all the Catholic kings for their people's loyalty and taxes, and there was a constant jostling for power between the laws of the land and the laws of God.

I didn't dislike /tg/s idea from a few weeks back: Khazar city-states vs. dragon riding Outback Australian Aboriginals vs. Renaissance Native American seafarers

>>51096444
>What are some cool cultures that could be used instead?

Polynesian/Pacific Islanders/Maori?

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>>51096697

LEAVE SUOMI ALONE

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>>51120003
There is lots of England. With maybe some token Viking shit somewhere in there.
There is very little Great Britain.

Then again, Knight Romans and folklore is generally completely ignored. And that includes 90% of the Arthur cycle beyond "Grail, King Arthur, Excalibur", and maybe refferancing the sheath existing.

>>51104364
I've always wanted to run a Pacific Northwest Indigenous themed campaign.

The biggest problem is that most of the people who understand the setting enough to make it work would tend to balk at the idea of blurring/mishmashing the culture so much (eg.,other anthropologists)

>>51135041
>angry britbong detected

Can't all be Scots of ancient lineage, mate.

Central and South American tribes/civilizations.
Greek fucking Bactria.

>>51142472
Mostly correct but one major correction needs to be made: replace 'Catholics' with 'Papist heretics'

>>51150178

I'm Californian without a trace of Brit ancestry. Just giving you the facts, M8.

>>51104771

>who is Charles Martel

>>51154714
To be fair, everyone gets the three early Charles mixed up, even in the stories.

>>51134770
They were too pure.

>>51111073

Don't waste your breath on him.

>>51147531
You live in the NW?
I live in WA and would be totally down to play.

>>51134770

My forever-unfinished setting has the main culture drawing influence from the Indo-Greeks.

Also included are as follows:

A culture based on siberian nomads
The Hakka people of China with bits of other cultures mixed in.
Eskimo dwarves
And a coastal afro-polynesian culture with light trappings of mesoamerica and a dusting of Old Kingdom egypt (gotta have those pyramids. Sol Vult).

Bastardizing history is fun.

>>51124991
this. I'd like to see slavic settings. slumbering ursine dunes apparently uses a czech foundation but I haven't read it yet

desu I feel that there's something inherent about the european fantasy setting to D&D (TSR D&D at least). anything else just feels like re-skin, despite the repeated claims it's settings agnostic. It takes as radical a departure as Traveller to carry the new setting fully.

>>51136811
India got its due in spades with yoon-suin

>>51097958
>>51101468
W. Burroughs did it right.

>>51102191
the state is a very undeniable european invention. see treaty of westphalia

>>51102295
you're not wrong that any of the major kingdoms in ancient africa that could be tested (either by genetics or looking at mummies facial structure for example) were lead by aryans.

>>51104198
>throw something at your players that they can't understand and would have to learn about just to play as, it'd be more difficult on them.
How is this a bad thing? Are your players children? Mystery and low player-information is at the heart of D&D, at least. I don't tell them they're fighting a "gnoll," or whatever, unless they know what it is, I describe the creature to them so they can learn what it is themselves.

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>>51104813
I can still hear the whistle.

>>51137824
I'm curious too. When I try to google for reviews I just get people crying about racism.

Tuvans

>>51096523
>despotic empires
>new god-monsters from a far away land offer a faustian deal to end it

>>51105184
Spain/portugal/iberia is always
>le quirky explorer
>le quirky lazy fiesta

Very underrated im general, only anima and degenesis did it right

>>51096444
Assyria, India, South American pre colombus and maybe even an aboriginal setting

>>51104916
Don't you dare to forget legendary Polish plumber and his unending fight for good sanitary conditions.
We have a team of builder, mechanic and plumber preferably fighting eldritch horrors.
It should be a setting it will be WFRP 2ed of our times.

>>51098327
>There are virtually no primary sources.

Anon, the native military resistance lasted well into the 19th century. There are very few written sources from before the invasion left, but the people survived reasonably fine for a long fucking time.

>>51104831
>Speaking of Romans, I'm annoyed in general how hard it is to find information about the Roman Kingdom.

Basically a bunch of headhunters inhabiting a swamp.

>>51160747

I know; it doesn't leave you.

>>51105184
>But damn if they aren't underused.
Thats why you don't want to lose Punic Wars anon.

>>51096697
maybe aland meets micronesia? have multiple races
>>51160661
>the state is a very undeniable european invention
Scotland was the first.
Saorsa airson Alba, thig ar latha.

>>51160690
Look, it's one thing to go 'you are threatened by what looks vaguely like a spotted dog shaped like a man, with a cruel cackling laugh and malevolent intelligence in its eyes.'

It's another thing to try and run players through a cliffnotes version of a college course on the Grand Duchy of Muscovy, especially when you've twisted it for a fantasy setting. It's an entire culture and history and different perspective on things, but if you try to tell them what a boyar is, they'll thing a moment, go 'oh, like a baron.'