"Sector Governor, my offer is clear. You must send me a

I don't think that virginity would be of any worth to a Dark Eldar.

By the time he is done checking, I'm long dead anyway. By the time he's done checking, the vast majority of virgins are long dead.

>>51045284
One million, hm? How much time would I have to gather these... nubile women?

>>51045284
Magical realm please go

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>>51045284
>Virgin
Do you not know all women are sluts? You know we do not have the strong, patriarchal culture neccessary to forcibly maintain conservative social mores. You won't find any virgins older than 12, and that's if you're lucky.

Either you're a pedophile -meaning you prey only on the defenseless- or incredibly naive. Either way, both imply you lack the ability to destroy us.

>>51045284
Now if you were to say something achievable, like 'destroy this entire system' I might actually take you a little more seriously, but you just had to go and stroke your ego by threatening the entire sector, didn't you?

>>51045421
>implying the Dark Eldar can't destroy an entire sector.

>>51045488
I have absolutely no doubt that the Dark Eldar can destroy an entire sector, what I have doubts of is an individual Archon actually gathering enough influence to risk destroying an entire Sector, that's at least a dozen dedicaed military recruitment worlds and a massive sector fleet on average, not even counting the Agri, Forge, Astartes, Knight, Feudal, Industry and various other worlds. At best I could see them precisely snapping the last few straws required for an overtaxed sector to fall.

>>51045284
Give him one million female replicae.

It's his problem what happens once his ship leaves with them.

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>>51045284
++NAY! THOU SHALT NOT TAKE NARY A SINGLE INNOCENT SAVE BY BESTING ME, FOUL XENOS! HAVE AT THEE!

>create a million clone virgins

Good luck, mr. Archon.

>:V

>>51045284
>Give a million babies, male and female
You didn't specify gender or age in the fine print you fuck.

>>51047078
He did specify gender m8.

>>51045284
"My dear Archon, the fact that you are appearing in person and making demands rather than simply taking what you wish indicates that you don't have the resources nor support to actually be a threat, much less one to the entire sector. I will commend you for your bravado, it's quite charming really, but must decline your offer. However, let it never be said that I am a man who doesn't recognize opportunity; some of the settlements in the Ababad system are getting uppity, put the fear of the Emperor back into them. Spare the infrastructure and no reprisal will come to you."

>>51045284

>Pull a bolt in his head and jump above the decorated desk with surprise lightning claw

Didn't crawl out of the hice-city and trough assignement on a Death World, and all the shit that have this sector in my life to here to be threaten by some pussy wansy pain addicted fucher slowly soulsucked by a hermaphrodite masochist god who think the galaxy his is magical realm.

Bring your filthy kind, Archon, bring your Kabal, bring it all, and show me what can pass for fury for you, because the fury of mankind and the emperor will bring your end.

Yo mother fucker challenge the wrong pimp.

>>51047200

Wow, actually a good answer. Feel dumb when looking at mine now.

>>51047130
Raise them as traps. If they identify as female the gender rule doesn't change.

>>51045284
Execute Request Order
Adeptus Astartes Ultra

Response Incoming
...

Deploying Ultramarines.

And when that doesn't work, get the deathwatch.

>>51045284
>Nubile
>Young
>Virgin
>Women
What are you some kind of homosexual?

>>51045377
What country are you from? lewl
Sucks to be you cucks..

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>>51045284
>"Sector Governor, my offer is clear. You must send me a million nubile young virgin woman, or I will destroy this entire sector! And I'll have you know, do not try to cheat me, for I will inspect. every. last. one."
As the Sector Governor my answer would have to be: 'eh - nah, don't think so mate'.

I mean, I'm sure you'll probably kill a lot of us. A fuckton of us, even, But we're not unarmed, and we'll certainly kill a few of you back.

See, the thing is: we're not immortal like you are. We live a century if we're lucky - and mostly we're not - so any of us you kill, well, who gives a shit? On a galactic scale you've deprived them of next to nothing. Whereas I bet it took you a century just to learn how to hold that over-designed sword properly. Think of an illiterate factory worker barely out of his teens, with an average life expectancy of less than forty years, gunning down a being that has stalked the galaxy since the time of the Emperor and has seen things that that factory kid couldn't even comprehend. That has to make you a little queasy, doesn't it? Well that's what's going to happen. If we put enough cheaply made lasrifles in the hands of enough cheaply grown factory workers, simple statistics make it inevitable.

We're also not a dying species - go ahead, ravage the sector if you feel like it. In a hundred years, two hundred tops, there will be countless billions of humans here living their brief lives as if you were never here. We belong to a species that has countless TRILLIONS of lives to spend. Whereas if you decide to come back and do this all over again in two hundred years, those holes in your ranks left by your dead friends - the ones's we got the first time around - are mostly still going to be there.

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>>51049390

I guess what I'm trying to say is: if you want to destroy this entire subsector, fine, because there will always be more of us. Always. So for me this isn't a choice between the lives of a million nubile virgins versus the lives of everyone in this subsector. This is a choice between all those lives, and the pleasure I'll get from telling you to go fuck yourself and then watching as you spend the irreplaceable lives of your compatriots to teach us a lesson we won't even remember in a century or two.

I mean that literally. In a century or two some aged man of sixty will tell everyone how he remembers his grandfather telling him about the 'Great Virgin Wars', and people will say: 'Was that that time the Sororitas purged the government of Grendel III?' and other people will say 'No, you're thinking of the Virgins' Laws', and another person will say 'Was it the one with the greenskins? I'm sure I remember my grandfather telling me about a big greenskin raid' and the aged man will say 'no, that's not it... wait? Is it? I was sure the greenskin one was a different story, but my memory isn't what it used to be. Whatever, I'm pretty sure it was some sort of foul xenos. So anyway, the way it starts is the xenos leader - the ork warboss I guess - goes to the Sector Governor and demands a million nubile virgins...'

Anyway, I'm rambling a bit at this point, but I think I've made myself clear: not only is it my duty as a loyal servant of the Emperor to put the opportunity to fuck you over above the lives of every human being in my Sector, but it is also my personal pleasure.

So, xenos scum, in the name of the Emperor: go fuck yourself.

>>51049390
>>51049413
Epic

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>>51049413
That feel when you steal an entire sector from under the nose of the Sector Governor by stirring up some bullshit about wanting 'virgins' or whatever to distract him

>>51045377
>-meaning you prey only on the defenseless
dark eldar, m8

They raid and hide because they don't want to get turbofucked by the various powers swinging their dicks around,

>>51045284
Coming to our planet and stealing our chicks, somebody's gonna pay for that!

>>51047078
>>51047130
Also, "nubile" means "of appropriate age to be married". Which, back when people actually used the word "nubile", typically meant 14-17.

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>>51049390
>>51049413
This, this is a good Post. No Heresy here.

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>>51049390
>>51049413
haha epic dude humanity fudge yeah amirite?

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>>51045284
What was that I heard?

Ignore him, Sector Governor. Instead, send those nubile virgin Mon'keigh women to me, they make excellent workers, and I'll be sure to split the "profits", and perhaps chase off this knave, free of charge. Can't get a deal like that from any Reaver Lord I assure you.

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>>51045284
you sure you can handle 1 million of our girls?

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>>51050767
My dear Governor, allow me to apologize for the rudeness of my wretched kin.
Allow me to see these ruffians off for you, and then you and I can work out a proper...payment later, in private.

>>51045284
I'll give you those girls, and some boys to boot, and some lasguns and Russ's for good measure you chalky knife eared eyeliner wearing limp wristed xeno clone self harming poison shooting tank floating 10AC having bike riding hellraiserknockoffing soul stealing daemon kowtowing pole proportioned MOTHER FRAKKER!

>>51047300
This is pure autism on my part, but there's no way a non-augmented human could pull a gun and kill an Archon in close quarters.

>>51051020
Sure he could.
I mean, if his followers slit the Archon's throat, disemboweled him and broke all his limbs before leaving him for dead.

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The proper Dark Eldar scenario here is to make the demand, knowing that the System Governor would flatly refuse in a public way.

Then you abduct the governor and torture him in the most inhuman and nightmarish way possible so that he immediately demands the surrender of the women to the very same lieutenants he was encoruaging to be defiant days before.

That's how the Dark Eldar roll. They're concern trolls on a grand scale. System-wide embarassmemt.

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>>51045284
Oh wow, I'm soooo scared. Whatever will I do, the scary Xenia is threatening me!

SEND IN THE GUARD! GET THE NEAREST MARINE CHAPTER ON THE LINE TOO, WE GOT SOME DUMBASS XENOS TO PURGE!

>>51050608
>Bitching about HFY in a 40k thread of all places.

Do you work to be this retarded, or were you just born this way?

"Sector Governor! Enough of these games. I'm going into battle, and I need only your strongest virgins."

>A million Sisters of Battle are sent to destroy the Eldar fleet

>>51051662
>My virgins are too strong for you, traveller.

Hey, secretary. How many 30 yo virgins do we have in death camps for illegal psycers? Send 1 million of them to that xeno faggot and watch the fireworks,

>>51051842
Psykers are never virgins sir. However we DO have many many Blanks who are virgins,

Guards! Execute this foul xenos!

>>51051046
>Archons
>Fast as fuck
>Equipped with a power weapon if not better.
>Deals with sudden assassination attempts every day.

A few non-augmented humans can certainly defeat and Archon.

>>51049413
>Implying the archon is gonna use actual eldar to attack you
>Implying he isn't gonna get dave the Haemonculus and his army of former humans orks and what have you to do it for him
>implying they're gonna kill your people
>implying they can't just clone new eldar

>>51049390
>>51049413
The holes in my ranks will be fillled within a month with vat-grown Dark Eldar. Try again.

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>>51045284
The bar closed over an hour ago you weirdo! Please go home!

>>51047078
Why not give him a million grots or tyranid spores?

>>51052472
>a million grots
Why not a million Squigs?

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>>51045284
Destroy this entire sector? You can certainly try.

>>51045284
>Of course my lord! We'll have them gathered immediately, and I'll send them to your fleet myself. Now tell me, where can we find you? In what area of space might we find your ships, so that we may deliver this prize to your most worthy and esteemed self?


Ok, the fucker is parked a few systems over. Send in the fleet and bring me his arrogant head mounted on a chain sword.

>>51045284
Archon, go home, you're drunk, and you've been arguing with your glass for the last half hour now.

>>51049390
>>51049413
You guys realize they could just go around folding the stars necessary for life to endure throughout the area into the Webway, right?

Deldar only fight people for fun or for profit.

>>51052449
Stupid elf, you can just walk around the table! You're only getting your clothes wet like this.

>>51052852
She gets more tips when she does it this way.

>>51052027
oooh, how exotic!

>>51045284
The average Imperial Governor wouldn't baulk at a deal like that if the threat was real, at least not from a humanitarian or moral point of view.

They'd probably refuse out of a typical "Fuck the xenos" attitude though. Extreme Xenophobia will do that.

>>51052868
but the bar closed an hour ago

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>>51045284
Why of course, Archon. They are right inside this box...

>>51045346
something that is pure and has known no suffering will suffer more from the same torture than some grizzled gaurdsman.

To conclude: Dark Eldar would value a young unspoiled virgin as they could use it as a better soul food battery than something that instantly has to go for the hard torture to get any soul juice from

>>51053935
>why don't you have a seat over there?

>>51050608
>>51052202
>>51052820
>Being a pro-xeno cuck
Literally kill yourselves.

Also, i like how none of you factor in the fucking Space Marines. An entire sector threatened? One of the big boy chapters is rolling in, and if there's one thing i LOVE about 40k, it's that you don't even have to torture Dark Eldar, killing them is the worst thing that can happen to a being in the setting.

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>>51045346
You might be suprised.
After all most bideded slaves in Commorragh are pure Sisters of Battle. Wars were waged for them.

webm related

>>51053885
But anon she gets more tips

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>>51045346
Its a critical ingredient to Dark Eldar liquor.

>>51045284
Or, you could not do that Govenor and accept The Plague Father into your heart. We'll protect you and your subjects.

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>>51050278
>Amateurs

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>1 Million
>Sector

Wait is that all? A sector would have hive worlds with populations in the hundreds of bilions. I mean we send like a million away for "this months stupid bloody crusade" as is. Seems like small change as far as dark eldar demand go.

Must be up to somthing worse, someone call the inqusition!

>>51054028
>>51053935
>Vintage Uskavar, milord?

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>>51045284
"Sorry sissy, but no one steals babes on my watch and gets away with it. Just ask those last fuckers who tried."

>>51049413
>>51049390
>implying Commorite eldar aren't fucking thriving thanks to vat-born eldar and Haemonculi able to just rez any of the guys of yours you kill

do you really think the fucking Astra Militarum could withstand the onslaught of a pissed off enough Archon?

>>51051020
Was counting on the guard to kill him BEFORE I get to him. But can't act all pussy in front of the lad'z. And who know, if I get lucky one of my guard is a infiltrated Inquisition agent and I will dodge the next inquisitorial inspection for bravery in front of the ennemy or some bullshit like that.

>>51052090

>Implying I'm not pimp enough as sector governor to have the best personnal guard possible in this sector

>>51055016
>thinking that would stop the dark eldar
I mean shit, Archon Xerathis gives planets days of warning before his raids before he charges in and kidnaps and fucks up their shit.

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>>51055050

You underestimate a former Rogue Trader ?

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>>51055111
You'd be mutilated into a wrack in minutes if you tried to step foot on Commorragh, faggot.

>>51051020
Depending on the governor's walk of life before becoming governor, it's entirely possible he's not exactly an un-augmented human being.

Remember these are the guys who can put on spryer suits and go predator on the populace when they get bored.

>>51055131

You aint nothin compare to my ex-wife.

>>51045284
Well, seems I have no choice.
> Sends 1mil in virgin female dogs.

>>51055308
>dogs
>nubile
uwot? what fucking ass backwards fringe world do you live in where dogs are nubile?

>>51055389
lright, alright

>send sheep

>>51055389
Why the fuck should he know what's considered nubile for disgusting xenos vermin?

>>51055419
If you're presenting dogs as nubile, that implies that YOU think they're nubile, not that they think so.

>>51054207
sauce?

>>51055389
one that praises the emperor

>>51054867
Why are you acting like DE are anything more then cowardly raiders?

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>>51045284

I'm pretty sure a sector governor would have a sizable military force to deal with some dark eldar pirates.

The faggot can go fuck himself.

>>51056014
>fallofcadia.png

>>51056092
What about it?

>>51056184
Commorite Eldar step up when they have to and they get shit done. They stay in the webway because they have no need to go to realspace except to get more victims.

>>51056057

Depends on who the governor's dealing with I suppose, if it's one random pirate lord or random Kabal Archon then I don't think they would worry. If Vect or Malys or Rakarth are asking then you best start rounding up your virgins.

I would start with R940k

>>51056014
When the Dark Eldar want you to die, your armies will be consumed by the glass-plague, your titans blown apart by blasterborn, and your sun is going to be swallowed into the webway.

>>51056436

But they never do, because where is the fun in any of that. It's boring and risky and dull in the extreme.

>>51056472
That's why you don't want to anger the Dark Eldar or force them to take things seriously.

>>51056208
>literally the entire fucking remains of their race can get shit done against fractions of other races
Ok.
>They stay in the webway because literally the second any other race decided to give them a fraction of the attention they give others they'd all be Slaanesh's playthings
ftfy

>>51056941
Reminder that the Dark Eldar are more powerful and numerous than the Craftworlders, and stay in the webway only because they CHOOSE to, rather than call more attention upon themselves than needed.

>>51056436
Lol, this is adorable. You're acting like other races don't have the means to wipe them out EASILY if only they actually bothered to look for them. Necrons wield things that make them look like cavemen. The Imperium and Orks would fuck them based on sheer numbers alone. And don't even get me started on the 'Nids.

>>51056968
Yes. They CHOOSE to not get fucked by literally anyone else in the setting.

>>51056973
>space marines
>laughingvect.png

>>51056988
You can wank your edgelords all you want, the fact is they can't afford an actual war against anyone. They can only perform small raids and PRAY they don't run into an actual military force.

>>51057022
Someone's never heard of the Kabal of the Broken Sigil, whose master goes out of his way to piss of inquisitors and armies before assaulting planets.

>>51045346
I doubt even the sex would matter to them, either.

>>51057044
Tell me all about how they waged a full-scale war against Space Marines. No? Just cowardly raids against severely outmatched and outnumbered enemies? Thought so.

>>51050608
>implying jerking off a fictional humanity is anyway worse then the jerking off of fictional aliens that the OP is about.

>>51057087
tell me of the last time the space marines got onto comorragh, and how that went.

>>51057107
Didn't it end with the Salamanders committing massive scale slaughter by having their ships just open fire at max yield?

>>51057107
They absolutely obliterated most of High Commoragh, wiping out nearly all of the Dark Eldar noble houses, paving the way for Vect and his Black Heart Kabal to seize power, then managed to escape?

>>51057141

yeah.

All according to keikaku, and once Vect's bitches finished their job, they got booted out.

>>51057107
>a fraction of the existing Space Marines against the entirety of Dark Eldar race
>all the archons are killed and SM's. although suffering losses, manage to recover their shit and retreat
Yes, i know it was Vect's keikaku, but let me ask you. You actually believe that a pitiful fraction of Space Marines taking on ALL of the Dark Eldar on their home turf, managing to inflict losses on them and not being completely wiped out, you think this is somehow a plus for DEldar?

>>51056968
>Reminder that the Dark Eldar are more powerful and numerous than the Craftworlders
Nah.

>>51057176
Not him but:

Honestly, yes. Before Vect they were not united or as strong as they are now. He had to clear the board of the deleterious elements somehow. And he didn't have forever to do it.

>>51057217
>don't have the same population problem as craftworlders thanks to pod-born eldar and haemonculi rezzing their soldiers
>Commoragh was already one of, if not the biggest eldar settlements before the fall, and was largely spared because it was in the webway
>thousands of years of the craftworlders dwindling while the commorites continue to grow
yeah.

>>51057263
You seem to forget that Khaine's Gate is falling and countless daemons are about to assrape the entire DE race out of existence.

>>51057286
does that make them less powerful or numerous right now than the craftworlders?

I thought not. Maybe in the future, but as it stands now, the Commorites are the more thriving eldar race.

>>51052090
>Implying I'm not a retired max-rank Rogue Trader character.

>>51057234
The Dark Eldar are still pretty fractured, Vect routinely has to put down high ranking Archons and lords alongside the massive military might they have built up.

In Path of the Dark Eldar, he even warp-nuked one of Commoraghs largest sub-worlds.

The Dark Eldar are still hilariously self-destructive and routinely waste massive fractions of their Empire on self conflict that doesn't benefit their kind as a whole.

>>51057386
Isn't that warp nuke the reason daemons are about to pour into Commoragh?

>>51054207
Motherfucker has the weakest arm I've ever seen. No wonder she was giving him lip.

>>51057468
I mean, only a humongous pussy would get off to this shit, and he looks the part.
>inb4 whiteknight
I didn't mean only a pussy would hit a woman, i meant only a pussy would get off to brutally beating one, and for no reason to boot. Unless this scene has completely different context and he's taking revenge for something.

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>>51045284
Does it matter if the virgins are lobotomised and heavily augmented with cybernetics?

>>51057448
Well I'd say the reason the daemons are pouring into is because the Webway is in general disarray with the main people who can repair it, Warp Spiders, being Craftworlders and thus unlikely to risk going near the Dark Eldar douchebags who'll probably pay their kindness with kidnapping and torture, and while the place he warp-nuked was sealed and thus ideally not allowing the breach to reach the Commoragh, it's certainly not helping the steadily increasing daemon incursion issue.

>>51057513
A lot of anons talk about how hot it is when it crops up in /tv/'s webm threads, regardless. I agree that they're pussies.

>>51057531
At some point I imagine you'll welcome anything different

>>51057448
>Isn't that warp nuke the reason daemons are about to pour into Commoragh?

It's more that Commoragh, like the rest of the webway, is old and decrepid as shit since no ones being properly maintaining it since the Fall. Whole sections are overrun with warp creatures or have been opened up to the immatterium completely. Commoragh's regular daemonic incursions are just a symptom of it being submerged in the warp with just a thin layer of Not!Wraithbone to protect it from an extra-dimensional buttfucking.

He nuked one of Commoragh's many sub-realms to prove a point, then sealed it off in a similar manner to how the Emprah sealed the Imperial Webway after Magnus fucked everything (Although he's not strapped to giant gold lifesupport because he's not a incompetent mon'keigh magician), but it's not the source of most of the daemonic incursions.

>>51057698
It wasn't just any world, it was the largest of Commoragh's sub-worlds.

And sealing it off doesn't change the fact that he basically ceded the realm from daemons, dwindling away resources they cannot get more of, and there are hidden gates still connecting the two.

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>>51045284
Sir, it was extra virgin olive oil, not this pile of monkeigh filth!

>>51057698
>because he's not a incompetent mon'keigh magician
This reminds me that Eldar consider The Emperor a sub-par psyker. Like, there's ego, and then there's being a fucking retard, though considering whats about to happen to DE, and what's been happening to Eldar for millennia, it makes sense.

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>>51057680
>their reaction

>>51057331

Hey you are me !

Wait....godamit, the Warp did it again.

Well...what yo..I drink then ?

>>51058631
They have millions of years of experience psychicing that the Emperor simply doesn't. He's powerful, yeah, but when they say he's a "bad psyker" they really mean it like, "he's a bad plastic surgeon," when said surgeon chooses to give a woman +3 to cup size when she asked for a reduction. Because he prefers big ones. They probably have certain cultural expectations of psykers/powerfully psychic beings that the Emperor simply isn't being good on. You can't say that's served him well either if we're being real.

>>51058631
I honestly think the Eldar idea that the Emperor is a bad psyker is a mix of two things; Arrogance, and different expectations. Eldar probably expect a psyker to have much more control over their psychic powers, preferring elegance and control over raw power. The Emperor...doesn't need that. He could easily squash any of them in raw power, it's control and "elegance" (as elegant as psyker magic can be) that they have over him, and even that I'd honestly debate considering he's been simultaneously maintaining the astronomicon and keeping daemons from tearing Terra a new asshole for millennia, all while being more than half dead.

The other reason, arrogance, comes from the fact Eldar -really- don't want to admit a mon'keigh is better than them. Sure, he's the Emperor, but he's still human. Those who do accept the Emperor as being human would otherwise probably make the excuse that he doesn't count as human since he's more like a super-evolved human pseudo-god than a normal human (since I don't think they know about the shaman thing). And the rest that don't fall into either of those categories have probably never seen the Emperor in action, either because they never observed him during his life, or because they're younger Eldar who never saw humanity during the Great Crusade.

He most certainly is not actually a sub-par psyker compared to them though. Malcador the Sigilite was an alpha-plus psyker, he did shit that few if any Eldar could or would do with psychic powers. He tried to do the Emperor's job of sitting on the golden throne and keeping the daemons from fucking Terra over for a relatively short time, it reduced him to ashes. The Emperor's been doing that same job for thousands of years while half-dead, is still going, -and- is multitasking while doing it. If Eldar had that kind of power, they'd essentially all be mini-Emperors, and if that were the case they'd never actually lose a fight ever.

>>51061646
Except Emperor is IMPOSSIBLY old, and is literally an ascended being of higher understanding. Using your analogy, it's like if some dude who's been going to med school for 20 years says a Nobel Laureate who finished med school in 3 by being so good he was allowed to graduate faster is a bad doctor. Their millions of years of experience are worthless because they simply never came close to having the power, knowledge and understanding that Emperor honed for millennia. He certainly knows things about the warp and psyker powers that they can't even fathom. No, it's simply spess elf arrogance, can't accept that a ''mon-keigh'' leader could shit on them in what they pride themselves on the most.

>>51062034
>Except Emperor is IMPOSSIBLY old

~50 thousand or so. A drop in the bucket to the age of the Eldar race.

>Using your analogy, it's like if some dude who's been going to med school for 20 years says a Nobel Laureate who finished med school in 3 by being so good he was allowed to graduate faster is a bad doctor

for giving a woman breast implants when she came to him for eye surgery because he prefers her looking a certain way. They don't deny his actual power; they just have different cultural expectations of psykers of his caliber, most likely. They don't expect him to fuck up like he did with the Primarchs, for example.

>Their millions of years of experience are worthless because they simply never came close to having the power, knowledge and understanding that Emperor honed for millennia.

They were the galactic hegemons for millions of years before Humanity was even a thing. They also fought the Necrons at their peak for aeons.

>>51061960
I'm sure he's far better then them in ''elegance'' as well. He's simply a higher being. It's like an ape having a contest with a human over who can produce better art. And most deliciously ironically, the Eldar are the ape here.
Magnus is also an example of a ''human'' psyker with whom no Eldar can dream of competing. And i'd wager Malcador was better then any Eldar as well.

>>51062107
>~50 thousand or so. A drop in the bucket to the age of the Eldar race
The age of a race and the age of a person are not the same thing.

>>51062184
He wasn't even "impossibly" ancient by the standards of pre-fall Eldar though. Do you recall that they could reincarnate at will before Slaanesh?

>>51062107
Necrons who had a crippling weakness to warp powers at the time. And again, no Eldar came close to the Emperors power or understanding of the warp. It's literally a race of mortals competing with a god in power, skill and knowledge, no matter how many of them there are or how many years they have on him, it's pointless. He operates on a level they don't know exists. He was more powerful then their gods ffs.
>They don't deny his actual power
Some do. I couldn't believe reading how conceited those pointy-eared faggots can be.

>>51050816
A Dark Eldar Archon probably has a pretty big flesh-grafted dick and millennia of experience at cunnilingus.

>>51062208
>Necrons who had a crippling weakness to warp powers at the time.

No they didn't. They had the pylons from the C'tan and a shit ton of God-tech.

>He operates on a level they don't know exists. He was more powerful then their gods ffs.

Wasn't it stated outright that he can't approach the Chaos Gods because they'd kill him? IIRC that's why he can't challenge them directly and end them once and for all.

>>51062256
Well, first off, Eldar Gods aren't Chaos Gods. And seconds, a dying Emperor, with his last breath, hit a Horus who was completely merged with all 4 of the Gods so hard that they had to run immediately cause he'd kill them as well. He didn't challenge them directly because he wanted to starve them and turn Warp back into the realm of souls, and chances are he couldn't kill them completely since they would just rez because lolbelief. Either way, THEY'RE the ones that had to covertly sabotage him for centuries while he swung his dick around in the warp.

>>51062256
eldar gods!=chaos gods.

>>51062203
Yes, but at these times they hadn't had their psychic powers to the point they have today and barely any of these Eldar are alive.

>>51062319
>And seconds, a dying Emperor, with his last breath, hit a Horus who was completely merged with all 4 of the Gods so hard that they had to run immediately cause he'd kill them as well.

They left because they got everything they wanted.

>Either way, THEY'RE the ones that had to covertly sabotage him for centuries while he swung his dick around in the warp.

The Imperium in its current form has powered them up to levels previously unseen since The Fall. This was the goal.

>>51062322
Your only proof of him being more powerful than their gods is that they lost to an ultra-empowered Slaanesh who had just eaten an entire empire's worth of souls after being powered up by thousands of years of extreme degeneracy.

>>51062432
Actually, they did. They were made with those. That's why they were so powerful and were the galactic hegemons.

>>51062480
>Your only proof of him being more powerful than their gods is that they lost to an ultra-empowered Slaanesh who had just eaten an entire empire's worth of souls after being powered up by thousands of years of extreme degeneracy.

hey, I'm not part of your argument, I'm just saying that the eldar gods were not chaos gods.

also, Iszha, one of their more powerful deities, is Nurgle's bitch.

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>>51045284
>>51050816
This.
Just call all of the neighbouring sector's Ecclesiarchy, and let them drop a crusade made out of millions of sisters of battle upon those sorry xeno asses. That will teach them.

>>51061960
M8, you know that the main reason the Eldar can't pull off insane psychic shenanigans is not due to lack of ability or power, it is due to them doing that risking their souls falling straight to Slaanesh's claws.
The Eldar of old could snuff out suns with their psychic bs. The modern eldar have to keep the flame of their psychic power nearly completely snuffed so that Slaanesh won't instantly see their jummy souls in the warp, and send his/her deamons to snatch it the moment they see it.

Unlike the Eldar, humans don't have one of the 4 chaos gods on 24/7 look out for their souls to snatch up.

>>51062618
As we see with the DEldar, though, that's basically pointless. Slaan still knows where to find your shit when you die. It's the soulstones that really matter, and even then the situation is dire.

>>51062519
>I'm just saying that the eldar gods were not chaos gods.

Warpshit is warpshit ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

>>51062637
That's because Slaanesh has a firm grasp on all of the souls of the entire Eldar race, because she/he is part of that race.

And no, soulstones wont save you if you get possessed, which the Eldar would risk the moment they used their psychic powers like humans use.

Comparing humanity and eldar in terms of psychic power is idiotic, because the Eldar have a figurative explosive collar around their neck that will go off the moment they use their psychic powers wantonly, whereas humanity is not in such a situation.

>>51050927
Good. The Archon is feeling adventurous tonight. He hasn't made love to a mon-keigh tank for a couple millennia.

>>51062480
>They left because they got everything they wanted.
Yea, they fused completely with Horus in an attempt to kill the Emperor and then retreated screaming back into the warp because that was all their plan.
>B-B-But it was their plan to cripple yet not finish off the Imperium so they could feed
Chaos is RIDICULOUSLY self-destructive. This was always the case. Don't delude yourself, they went all in, and tripped at the finish line by getting their shit pushed in by a dying Big E who decided to fight seriously for a split-second. It's a miracle they managed to work together for so long, and that happened only because they were seriously threatened.
>The Imperium in its current form has powered them up to levels previously unseen since The Fall
I'm sure a healthy died of psykers and worship will have no effect on Emps when/if he ressurects.
>>51062618
>The Eldar of old could snuff out suns with their psychic bs.
Literal parlor tricks for Big E. His dying attack was described ''as powerful as an exploding sun, as focused as a laser''. The collective Eldar race can't dream of producing something like this, and Emps did it literally as a last breath. Hell, Magnus was manipulating time and warping reality during the battle of Prospero.

>>51062808
>'as powerful as an exploding sun, as focused as a laser''
Bullshit hyperbole.

Anyone who wanks up the emperor to being some phsyical god is a faggot that should be barred from writing anything for 40k.

Horus Heresy, and all the emperor wank related to it, are worst parts of 40k lore.
I liked the Emperor better when he was just a half dead asshole in a massive life support chair, not the sole fucking defender of humanity against chaos.

>>51062870
M8, let me level with you. I like powerlevel bullshit, but i completely agree with you. Something like 40k should be written artistically, not with literally describing how powerful or strong someone is. It should be vague and left to imagination. The Emperor and Primarchs should be written as a mythical god-figures where we could only guess at their power.
That said, if somebody wants to bring up feats, we bring up feats. Either way, Emperor shits on Eldar.

>>51062808
>manipulating time and warping reality during
And you think that that was beyond the capabilities of the Pre-Fall Eldar, who engineered entire realms with their own laws of reality into the webway for their flimsy pleasures?

The Eldar were the uncontested masters of the galaxy for over 60 million years, and even during their nadir, their descend to decadence, humanity was STILL utterly in their shadow and posed no threat to them.

The only reason the 40k as we know can exist, is because the Eldar were brought low by a literal fucking God. Had the Fall not happened, the great crusades, the imperium, etc, none of them would have happened.

It is fucking retarded to argue that humanity is somehow superior to the Eldar, when even the modern eldar, who, mind you, are basically a collection of drug junkies, circus clowns, space truckers (plus the irrelevant amish elves), last survivors of their entire species, the less that 1 percent that survived the Fallocaust, can put up a fight against the Imperium and win.

Humanity and no human, has never surpassed the Pre-Fall eldar in anything but numbers of bodies can throw at problems.

>>51050608
kys.

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>>51045284
A tempting offer, however as sector governor I bear a number of responsibilities associated with my office, chief among them being the protection of ALL my citizens, regardless of their nubility or chastity. This burden is balanced by certain privileges - for example, this ring on my finger is in fact a powerful, miniaturised melta weapon, as you have just discovered. I infer from your screaming and flailing that you wish to call an end to this dialogue, and I am happy to oblige; I'm sure you can see yourself out by whatever means it was that you came in.

If in future you wish to resume this line of discussion, I would be happy to arrange a meeting between yourself and the sector defence fleets to hash out the details, but for now I'm sure we both have urgent matters to attend to - yourself obviously somewhat more so - and I therefore bid you adieu.

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>>51045284

I got your virgins right here

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>>51063323
Alright, which one of you asshats tampered with the Archon's shadowfield?

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>>51063780
Yo, my plan finally paid off! I'm now in charge, anyone who says otherwise can go fuck slaanesh.
>>51063323
Listen "human" I say we make this a fair trade, how about you give me any number of political prisoners or disposable citizens and I will give you the same number in superior exotic guns

>>51047200

"Unlike yours, my bravado isn't backed with futility. Your refusal only denies me the pleasure of seeing your realization that this sector was doomed anyway, but rest assured the hunt is far more entertaining than a deal gone sour. I think for every second I've had to endure sharing breath with you, I shall take my million, regardless of age or gender. My haemunculi can deal with that problem.

Go on then, warn your betters of the coming doom, tell your people to cower in their hovels, raise arms against the very night itself, do whatever makes you feel that you can sleep each day knowing that terror and pain beyond your wildest dreams await you. I will mount your still living flesh on my wall so you can forever relish in the agony of your sector.

I look forward to our next meeting, governor."

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>>51045284
Foul Xenos Archon, I make you a counter offer.

Cease this petty threat and degenerate demands and leave this sector and all other Imperial space for the rest of eternity. If you do not, I will send every single sanctioned psyker within my sector (which totals in the hundreds of thousands) to your miserable piece of shit habitation. Upon arrival, this army of psykers will open a portal to the warp and summon Slaanesh daemons to eat you and your crew.

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>>51056436
Try it knife-ear

>>51064346

thanks for the warning, gonna go borrow the helm of spite from that asshole Qu

also, fuck psykers

>>51064797

GET THE FUCK OUT OF OUR WEBWAY TINMAN, WE'RE FUCKING WITH THE MON'KAI

>>51063003
>all this Eldar wank

>the Eldar were brought low by a literal fucking God
The same God THEY created through their degeneracy? The same God a DYING Emperor assraped along with his four buddies?

>Had the Fall not happened, the great crusades, the imperium, etc, none of them would have happened.
Yea, keep telling yourself that. The only thing that wouldn't have happened is the Horus Heresy.

>can put up a fight against the Imperium and win
This goes beyond delusion and well into insanity. The Eldar haven't put up anything resembling a fight against the Imperium. The casualties they inflict with their manipulations and schemes are insignificant, the ones they do with combat aren't even worth mentioning. They don't mean shit to the Imperium. The threats are
>Chaos
>Tyranids
>Necrons
>Orks
Eldar, Dark Eldar and Tau are mere nuisances at most. Not even worth the Imperium's full attention.

Also, let me tell you something you clearly don't know: the Eldar are a bunch of pampered faggots that NEVER achieved anything on their own. Their tech is all ripped from the Old Ones, they were given a prosperous galaxy and allowed to multiply unabaded, and they still managed to fuck everything up for everyone and somehow STILL act like they're the superior ones even though they fucked a fucking Chaos God and a hole in reality into existence. The Eldar are a bunch of privileged cunts that constantly get their shit pushed in and manage to carry on only through MASSIVE self-delusion.

>>51064340
''My DEAR Archon, my, ''bravado'', as you so crass put it, was a mere jest on my part. I'm sorry i've made sport of you, but it was a rare opportunity one can ill afford to let slip by,

No, my dear friend, the fact is, you've offended some pretty big hats recently, haven't you? Take, for instance, your great Vect, who so politely warned us ahead of your coming. Yes, the same Vect who also provided you with much of your transportation as gifts, the very same ships that are failing as we speak. You were surprised to suddenly find yourself in his favor weren't you, but just couldn't let an opportunity slip buy, eh?

Ah, it's tragic really, when it comes down to it, all you arrogant, scheming types are the most predictable of the lot. I can understand how a genuinely cunning fellow like Vect seized power as quickly as he did. Dangerous foe, that one.

But enough about how we knew about you, lets get to how you're going to die. The still working systems on your ship (cruel too, that Vect) are informing your increasingly panicked crew about the approach of two Space Marine fleets, The Salamanders and The Black Templars, as well as our own humble defense forces, as we speak. You'd be hard pressed to survive this engagement WITHOUT being dead in the water, as you happen to be.

Farewell, you cursed, arrogant xeno filth. May you suffer an eternity of hell for every poor soul you've tortured and killed. The Emperor's justice comes.''

>>51065468
>this is what imperial fags actually believe.

Keep up the wankery m8.
The established lore makes it very clear that the only thing that allowed the imperium's rise was an act of god that brought down the superior eldar empire.
Humans are shit tier in 40k.

>>51068414
>an act of god
That is like claiming the invasions of the Goths were an act of God against Rome as opposed to letting a bunch of savages make up your army and then refusing to give them whatever they demand.

>>51068461
Except the birth of Slaanesh was a fucking act of god. The first act of that particular god to be exact.

>>51068461
>Slaanesh blowing up the Eldar Empire, creating the Eye of Terror and calming down the warp around Terra
>comparable to some barbarians sacking a city
The apt comparison would be blaming Big E when some Dark Eldar raid a human planet.

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>>51049390
>>51049413

*sarcastic slow clap*

I agree Mon'keigh, I really do.

Your people are nothing but short lived cattle for the likes of us, as you admit you swarm like trillions of vermin. Your lives are insignificant to the universe and to your own leadership. They will not rescue you, the worlds of this sector will be scoured and left a graveyard for hundreds of years before your beloved Imperium even notices.

You will always be prey to the superior. You are a particularly plentiful fruit we come to gorge ourselves on, no more. Our trivial desire is the very embodiment of what you consider hell, and no matter how many of you vermin survive into the centuries those that were lost will have served a higher purpose, to serve us in being but a meal, a single course on the banquet of pain and suffering this universe has to offer. And know that I will yet live centuries from now to steal your descendents from their bed, I will be ever present down the ages. After your planet has become a primitive superstitious world I will become their God. And all this will have been but an leisurely afternoon in the course of my life.

At any rate, I'm afraid I must end this communication as we are now coming for you, in what form and what time and where, I feel it would be more amusing to refrain from enlightening you, but know this;

Your souls are mine at the setting sun.

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>>51045284
"Well, you asked for it."
"Call up the Ecclesiarchy. Looks like we have a job for them."

>>51053935
>WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>51062534
I mean that's one way of supplying a million virgins for the Kabalite's experiments.

>>51069171
>know that I will yet live centuries from now to steal your descendents from their bed, I will be ever present down the ages
>Commoragh is LITERALLY about to be overrun by daemons
>Slaanesh about to have another feast
Yea, no, your edgelord knife-ear faggot days are numbered, and the eternity of agony that awaits you will make all the tortures you inflicted upon others seem like mean words.

>>51070097

Supreme Overlord Vect will simply activate the wardings to isolate any pocket of warp incursion. We trust in his infinite malevolent genius to come up with a solution to save his own skin and his personal playground city at any cost.

Besides my Kabal has made a pact with a Harlequin troupe to provide us with an exodus into a lost pocket realm of the webway in case our fortress in High Commoragh is compromised.

Besides it not like there haven't been recurrent Daemonic assaults on Commoragh, every time I rise the ladder of power through the Chaos, settle old scores, acquire new artefacts surviving from the Eldar Empire and the whole city in general is purified of the weak and unworthy. We only get stronger and more cunning.

Commoragh lives eternal!

>>51068414
>Keep up the wankery m8
>facts are wankery

>The established lore makes it very clear that the only thing that allowed the imperium's rise was an act of god that brought down the superior eldar empire
An act brought about by their own degeneracy.
Also, you're very conveniently ignoring that humans have had a FAR shorter existence then your pampered pointy eared faggots yet actually achieved shit on their own, as opposed to having Old Ones hand literally everything to them and still managing to fuck it up.
>Humans are shit tier in 40k.
Eldar are BEYOND shit tier. Keep ignoring that the only reason they were so ''superior'' was the fact that they had no real opposition for aeons and got handed everything by space gods. Literally anyone would prosper in that scenario.

>>51070153
Yea, sure. Vect did an excellent job of hiding that he's full panicmode from you fucktards. Bet you got gifted a prestigious place in central Commoragh recently, eh?
>an exodus into a lost pocket realm of the webway
You think Slaanesh wont find you? Commoragh is literally your last stand, after that it's all just short delays of the inevitable.
>Besides it not like there haven't been recurrent Daemonic assaults on Commoragh
This wont be an assault so much as a tide of death and horror washing over all of you. Combat wont even be an option.
You're fucked m8. And it's LITERALLY all your fault.

>>51070171
>An act brought about by their own degeneracy.
And? After 60 000 000 000 years they finally shot themselves in the foot so that the protagonist race has some time to shine and to also fuck it up.
>yet actually achieved shit on their own
It was not the Old Ones that handed the Eldar empire to them.
>no real opposition for aeons
Necrons could have woken up any time, but decided not to. Chaos was still a thing. Orks were a non-issue, despite also being one of the creations of the Old Ones. And humans were also a non-issue. These are also not the only dangers of the universe.
>Literally anyone would prosper in that scenario
Humans didn't, Orks didn't. Necrons were sleeping. You are basically stepping into fanfiction territory.
>would
Nice, but it's a fact that they didn't.

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>>51045284
"I'm calling the shots here now Archon and I have to say that we cannot meet your demands unfortunately. But if anyone will be destroying this sector it'll be me."

>>51070353
> After 60 000 000 000 years
What fucking ass did you pull that number from, the universe wasn't around for that long.
>It was not the Old Ones that handed the Eldar empire to them.
>created them
>gave them wraithbone and all their tech
>gave them knowledge and power
Nah, m8, you're right, they earned all of that.
>Necrons could have woken up at any time, but decided not to
And the universe could explode at any moment, doesn't mean i'll use it to show how badass the Imperium is.
>Chaos was still a thing.
Literally nowhere close to a real threat until the degenerates gave it access into real space and created a new god.
>And humans were also a non-issue
Probably cause they didn't exist.
>Humans didn't
Humans had retardedly advanced tech handed to them and aeons without any enemies of strife? Must of missed that part.
>Orks didn't
Now you're just being retarded. Orks are literally the happiest race in the setting, they always prosper given what their goals are, and also they were literally created just for war and nothing else.
>You are basically stepping into fanfiction territory
You stepped into it a long time ago.
>Nice, but it's a fact that they didn't.
Cause no one else had that kind of opportunity. And Eldar fucked it up most spectacularly. For everyone. And yet the faggots still consider themselves hot shit.

>>51070388
Ahh, Inquisitor.

You wouldn't mind if me made some... Choice selections before you exterminatus these world? We'll aid you in transporting the warheads to the required locations.

Say, if a particular being tortured by the Dark Eldar had a will/mind so strong, that although it felt pain, it wouldn't feel an ounce of despair or fear, would they be able to feed from it? Like, we're talking about completely no-selling any form of torture.

>>51070420
>they earned all of that
Well they fought the war in heaven, but afterwards they did everything on their own. I'm not denying that they got most of their tech from the Old Ones, but the Old Ones didn't create the Eldar to be the rulers of the starts. They were just one of the weapons the Old Ones created. The Eldar used the webway to build their empire, they didn't get it handed over by the Old Ones.
>And the universe could explode at any moment
The universe can't decide when to explode.
>Probably cause they didn't exist.
>humans didn't exist before the Eldar blew themselves up
Nice try.
>Humans had retardedly advanced tech
C'tan had better tech than the Old Ones and they still lost. Even humans had better tech at one point, but they decided to be retarded.
>Orks are literally the happiest race in the setting
That's not the point, the point is that Orks seem to have been not such an issue like in the current time.
>Cause no one else had that kind of opportunity
The Great Crusade happened, though. And then they fucked it up.
>And yet the faggots still consider themselves hot shit.
This is called a flaw.

>>51070388

Ha dear Inquisitor, "bien le bonjour" ! I was knowing one of my servant was a agent of your, did it's a guard ? I don't want to know ? Alright, alright. Always on your guard you old fox isn't it ?

So, I waspreparing myself to my pressing obligation when this fool manant erupt in my second antichamber, babling about destroying the sector and requiring virgin for some unknown and shadowy project. The mongrel seems to believe himself above the will of the emperor ! As you can see he was not above being shoot in the leg. Surprising what little toy the Jokaero can build, I actually win this one before becoming governor, a bet with a other trader.

But you don't come here to here me talk...isn't it ? I, of course, deliver this erand fool to your competent hand; my men will help to carry him around at your will. You can of course use all the questioning keep in the palace at your will.

On this note, my dear friend I must return to my duty, Adieu.

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>>51053935
>*muffled "the only thing I know for real" in the distance*

>>51070527
>but the Old Ones didn't create the Eldar to be the rulers of the starts
They created them as a perfect, flawless race, and gave them all the best shit. They went all in on them.
>The Eldar used the webway to build their empire
Again, you leave ANYONE alone with hyper-advanced tech, godly knowledge, no opposition and AEONS of time, they're gonna get some shit done. It's a miracle they didn't colonize the entire universe, bug again, that's because they never had to actually work for anything so they focused on hedonism instead.
>>humans didn't exist before the Eldar blew themselves up
They didn't exist for 99% of Eldar race's prime. Humanity is still in their infancy, can you image what the Emperor would have done if he had the same conditions the Eldar did? He'd be conquering the multiverse right now.
>C'tan had better tech than the Old Ones and they still lost.
They were weak to what Eldar were good at IIRC (warp powers and wraithbone), also didn't they completely push the Eldars' shit in the second time around and only lost because of Enslavers or something?
>Even humans had better tech at one point, but they decided to be retarded.
Humanity didn't exist for the iota of time that the Eldar did and they were actively sabotaged by the Chaos Gods. The mess Eldar made fucked the still very much infant humanity over. Meanwhile, Eldar fucked themselves over.
>the point is that Orks seem to have been not such an issue like in the current time.
Eldar were numerous and had hyper advanced tech and great powers, also, not like they had to worry about stuff like Chaos or Tyranids as well. I don't get this argument, of course the Orks weren't a threat to Eldar in their prime, when they had ideal conditions to reach that prime that no one else has had.
>The Great Crusade happened, though. And then they fucked it up.
They had FAR less time then The Eldar, and were actively sabotaged by Ruinous Powers. Not the same thing by a long shot.

>>51070549
Why does Farsight not team up with the Imperium and tell them about the evil that are the Ethereals?

>>51070452
I doubt it would matter much. If they couldn't use it they would just blow its brains out and move on. Like throwing away a bad beer or something.

>>51070587
Not him.

>They were weak to what Eldar were good at IIRC (warp powers and wraithbone), also didn't they completely push the Eldars' shit in the second time around and only lost because of Enslavers or something?

The lore about the C'tan being weak to the Warp is outdated. Latest fluff shows them being unaffected by the WArp.

Also the new fluff has the Necron and C'tan alliance crushing the Old Ones and their allied races. The C'tan/Necrons were unstoppable and when the Old Ones were finally exterminated this changed when the Necrons turned on the C'tan in a civil war.

>>51070613
Ah, so it's even worse, the Eldar are pampered AND lucky as fuck, and they still fucked it up.

>>51070608
Yea, but at least they would get A LITTLE frustrated, right? Maybe some sexy wytch or Archon would take it for a pet (if it's an attractive humanoid). It would be a remarkable specimen.

>>51070652
I guess so. Might be some novelty value to it.

>>51070587
>They created them as a perfect, flawless race
No, that's retarded. They wouldn't have to create the other races if this was the case.
>It's a miracle they didn't colonize the entire universe
The fact that you can find webway gates basically everywhere means they did, they just didn't really inhabitate these worlds.
>no opposition
That's just so wrong, again Orks and the races the Old Ones created and whatever inhabitated the galaxy at this point. The moment the war in heaven was over everyone had the chance.
>Humanity is still in their infancy
And see where they are now. They managed to fuck themselves up faster than the Eldar, just not at sucha grand scale.
>also didn't they completely push the Eldars' shit in the second time around and only lost because of Enslavers or something?
There goes your perfect, flawless race.
>and they were actively sabotaged by the Chaos Gods
Because they are so easily manipulated. Are going now for the dindu nuffin route? Humans never did anything wrong and it was all Chaos' doing?
>I don't get this argument
I mentioned it above, the simple fact is that there were threats to the Eldar and the Eldar made the best out of their situation. The Orks didn't, as far as we can tell.
>Not the same thing by a long shot.
It's almost like both tell the story of a fall from grace but in a different scale.

>>51045284
Yeah, sure. Just give us some time to gather them up, xeno.
...
Hey, guardsman Jimmy. Listen, I already know you're a member of the Genestealer cult here in the hive. How would you like to get a hive fleet into Commorragh?

>>51070595
>Why does Farsight not team up with the Imperium and tell them about the evil that are the Ethereals
Because the imperium don't see a difference between a xeno who's motivated by noble reasons or a xeno motivated by other xenos, the imperium just wants to kill all xenos.

>>51070727
>No, that's retarded. They wouldn't have to create the other races if this was the case.
>There goes your perfect, flawless race.
Alright, i'll admit hyperbole, but they still got by far the most preferential treatment.
>And see where they are now. They managed to fuck themselves up faster than the Eldar, just not at sucha grand scale.
They didn't have a thousandth of the time or the resources the Eldar had, though, and had a lot more going against them.
>The moment the war in heaven was over everyone had the chance.
Again, NO ONE had the shit the Eldar were given. The tech, the knowledge, or the psychic gifts. It's like saying ''Everyone had their chance'' on a farm when one group was given basic farming tools and a shotgun and the other was given a fully equipped army, state of the art farming equipment and the best farming knowledge in the world. Not really fair.
>Because they are so easily manipulated. Are going now for the dindu nuffin route? Humans never did anything wrong and it was all Chaos' doing?
Are you seriously blaming humans, an infant race, for being manipulated by ancient gods? I mean, shit, Eldar would have been JUST as easily manipulated if the chaos gods got to them in their infancy and there were no old ones. And Chaos wouldn't have been an issue if the Eldar haven't fucked up. The Eldar had EVERYTHING going for them and fucked it up in the most spectacular fashion. Humans were literally just starting to get on their feet and Chaos Gods united to fuck them over. Very different situations.
Point being, the Eldar should stop being so fucking arrogant, they had literally the best deal in the entire setting and still managed to ruin everything for everyone.

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>>51070657
>ywn be a dude so badass and strong-willed no torture works on you
>ywn get captured by DE and watch the reavers, then the wytches and finally the homonculi be driven to the edge of tears as they're greated by a firm, defiant stare or insults no matter what they do
>a smoking hot wytch/archon/noble will never take interest in you
>she will never proudly walk with you through Commoragh as her prized pet mon-keigh and flaunt you, taunting everyone who tried to break you and failed miserably while the highest DE nobility averts their gazes and mutters curses under their breath
>she will never try to break you with pleasure every night since torture doesn't work
>Vect will never take notice and say you're a pretty cool guy for a mon-keigh
>you will never inadvertently help your mistress rise through the ranks
>she will never decide you're worth keeping around indefinitely and extend your life through DEldar lolscience
>ywn spend eternity living in bliss with your mistress and occasionally hanging out with Vect who constantly tells you stories about how stupid everyone else is and how easily he's manipulating them and shares hearty laughs with his ''cool mon-keigh slave buddy''

>>51062322
Isn't Khaine just an avatar/greater daemon of Khorne though?

>>51050415
>>51047078

But he also said "women" not girls, implying he was looking for adults.

>>51058631

They said he was a "weakling of a seer" and they're not wrong. He did fail to see what anyone with common sense could have seen coming. The Eldar saw the heresy coming, but not Emperor.

>>51062808

>Exploding a sun is a parlor trick!
>Emperor's last attack was described like an exploding sun!

You pretty much defeated your own point there.

>>51065468

>The Eldar haven't put up anything resembling a fight against the Imperium.

Remember when two harlequins slaughtered their way through dozens of custodes and the inquisitors admitted they could've harmed Emps if they wanted? That's how easily the Eldar could snuff out humanity if they felt like it. They could've sent a meaningful warhost through that gate and skullfucked the entire human race into the ground by turning the Emperor into paste, but they didn't. They could've appear without warning through a webway gate, snuff out every prime sun in 60 light years and leave the Cadian system a ring of dead planets, but that'd be bad for them. Humanity is a useful speed bump.

>>51071607
>ywn be a space marine chapter's stasis-storyteller-buddy, keeping their dreadnoughts company
prospero burns was shit, but that bit was cool

because sleepynoughts are cool

>>51049390
>>51049413

>It's HFY faggot doesn't understand the basic aspects of a xenos faction fluff

There are metric fuck tonnes of Deldar and they have cloning and vatborn, dipshit. If they decide you're not even worth being raped they'll send you a blackhole and forget about you.

>>51070171
>had no real opposition for aeons

Well at least you admit humanity at it's apex wasn't a blip on the radar. That's the only true thing you've said.

>People are actually debating 40k powerlevels
Do any of you fucks know that any faction powerlevel is basically what GW wants it to be? Hell, I doubt that they even think about the implications of anything they say, and simple put it in because it sounds cool.

>>51071620

>Average fa/tg/uy attempting to talk about non-imperial lore: the post

>>51070420

>Implying humanity didn't exist pre-fall
>Implying Orks prospered pre-fall
>Implying chaos wasn't a threat pre-fall

Why do you argue so insistently about fluff you've never read?

>>51071487
>They didn't have a thousandth of the time or the resources the Eldar had, though, and had a lot more going against them.
>but they still got by far the most preferential treatment.
>The tech, the knowledge, or the psychic gifts
This is a stupid argument to begin with because this time 60 million years ago this is where I pulled this number out earlier, but added to many zeroes on it after the war on heaven ended, it's all still pretty unknown territory. Maybe the Eldar needed millions of years to establish an empire, maybe they fought against things we know nothing about because from the point of view of the humans these are unknown things. What we know is that the Old Ones created in this war the Rashan, the K'nib, of which we know basically nothing about and the Krork, which may be the anecstors of the Orks. I haven't saved it unfortunately, but there was a recent novel in which an Eldar told a human what her ancestors killed, which included among other things the Krork and "Men of Iron", which could either be the Necrons or the robot army the humans had before.

And I don't see how they Eldar should be particularly gifted. As I said we know basically nothing of the other warrior races of the Old Ones. The Orks relish much more in war than the Eldar, are less affected by pain and the negative emotions it brings, are less concerned about the things that led to the downfall of the Eldar. They also don't need to be taught, they have all the technology ingrained in their DNA, it can never really be lost, unlike a lot of the Eldar technologies. They are in my opinion the more gifted race for this universe. And when I talked about how the Eldar probably beat the Orks I didn't meant to shittalk them, I think both are magnificent creations of the Old Ones, that complement each other in certain aspects. And afterall I think it was Eldrad that came to the same conclusion.
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>>51071969
What I think gave them their empire was the usage of the webway, which the Eldar improved and extended. For what reason the Orks were not able to do so I don't know.

>Are you seriously blaming humans, an infant race, for being manipulated by ancient gods?
Well, some shamans had enough foresight to create the Emprah, the biggest Sue in a universe of overblown power wankery. Which still managed to fuck up, despite everything looking so bright. To say that they were unprepaired is ridiculous, he knew very well what they were getting into.
But let me say that Eldrad, an also very gifted psyker, also manages to fuck up all the time. I blame GWs writing more than anything. It's a mistake to introduce such characters anyway, it's hard to write them right.
>And Chaos wouldn't have been an issue if the Eldar haven't fucked up
Meanwhile humanity is bolstering the ranks of Chaos like no other faction ever could.
>the Eldar should stop being so fucking arrogant
This would mean you would eliminate one of their defining flaws. But as I said 60 million years ago ended the war in heaven, and while we don't know when it exactly started, everything afterwards was pretty much the heyday of the Eldar. Now while they are at their weakest the still are a pain in the ass for the empire. And for approximately 99,9% they did fucking fantastic. This is like saying the roman empire was shit because they got a lot of technlogies from the greeks and celts and at the end rome was reduced to a village. This is just an effect of the setting being written of the POV of the humans in this time.

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>>51045284
Is the Lord Solar Macharius still alive at this time? Because he fucked the Dark Eldar up good in a pretty large scale battle.

>>51045284
>"Sector Governor, my offer is clear. You must send me a million nubile young virgin woman, or I will destroy this entire sector! And I'll have you know, do not try to cheat me, for I will inspect. every. last. one."
you want virgins, female too, from our sector, lol, that's funny,...

Yes, we need this thread to stay up.

>>51055131
>getting one over on a Rogue Trader
>ever
Pick one and only one.

The Dark Eldar would arrive at the planet only to find out he sold it to an Ork Waaaagh!, if not simply turned it into a bomb.

>>51056941
>>51056968
>Reminder that ancient Eldar Archons still have nightmares about the time the Space Marines came for a visit

>inb4 Vect opened the doors and let them in
He also gave them the reason for coming too.

And they came with what is basically a quick-reaction force in response to the ship's distress call. Sure it was a large one of 2-3 thousand Marines, but that 2-3 thousand was enough to knock down huge assed parts of the city along with causing millions of deaths.

A full Imperial invasion would turn Commorragh into a bloodbath.


Also daily reminder that the Mandrakes have some crazy evil plot to swallow the whole city into a realm of nightmare shadows... I imagine that will be bad for the regular Dark Eldar.

>>51057234
>Vect, or anyone ever for that matter
>uniting the Dark Eldar
kek, pick only one.

>>51062203
>Do you recall that they could reincarnate at will before Slaanesh?
Reincarnation doesn't mean they come back with all their knowledge and experience though.

>>51062694
That is quite an impressive asspull I will admit.

And you argue it so well despite there being absolutely nothing in the fluff that backs this up.

>>51062870
>Anyone who wanks up the emperor to being some phsyical god is a faggot that should be barred from writing anything for 40k.
Yeah, the people writing for Rogue Trader, 2e, and 3e were total hacks who didn't understand 40K at all!

>>51052650
'dis

>>51076345
So why do people hype up the Emperor dying and reincarnating? 90% of his power comes from his immense knowledge of everything from war to economics to god knows what. If all of that gets reset then he's just a decently strong psyker.

>>51076443
Uh...how? The entire reason for the Paths, especially the warrior ones, is so they don't lose control of themselves.

>>51077856
>So why do people hype up the Emperor dying and reincarnating?
Because originally he wasn't going to reincarnate, that was a mistaken belief by the Illuminati because it's 40K and noone's grand scheme ever goes perfectly. The other competing theory was that his soul would fly free into the warp, and crush the Chaos Gods by virtue of being a more powerful warp entity.

>>51077915
Yes but that doesn't mean that if they use too much Psychic power that Slaanesh can just automatically suck out their soul, or get a daemon to possess them. There's never been any mention of stuff like that. The Paths exist to focus the Eldar's passions, so they don't run amok or fall into a hedonistic existence that is a repeat of what happened before. And even then, they can get too into a path and become stuck on it, like most/all Exarchs are.

>>51071736
What does it make them, then, for allowing The Fall to happen?

>>51071764
>someone's dying breath, last ditch attack is considered a parlor trick compared to what they're normally capable off
I don't see what confuses you. Also, exploding a sun and producing the equivalent energy output with your own power are two VERY different things.

>>51071820
>Remember when two harlequins slaughtered their way through dozens of custodes
>custodes
>literally the most powerful warriors the Emperor has ever produced
>even Primarchs would have a hard time with them
I've literally never heard of this, and it puts fucking Ward to shame. The fact that some autist would write this and that retards like you actually believe that ANYONE could just assassinate the Emperor, especially as easily as you believe, leaves me speechless.

>>51071878
Humanity reached it's apex when Eldar were long fucked. During their prime they didn't even exist.

>>51079715
>>literally the most powerful warriors the Emperor has ever produced
And Harlequins are one of the best of the Eldar. It's still kinda ridiculous, but if any Eldar could pull this off, it would be some high ranking Harlequin.

Don't what would have happened of a Solitaire appeared. These guys are complete bullshit.

>>51045284

>>51079816
Why does everything i find about this event say that there were 7 harlequins who cut through the ordinary palace guard and got rekt the moment custodes appeared?
Also, didn't Ahriman, like, DESTROY Harlequins in open combat? I mean, he's powerful as fuck, but he's not infiltrating the Imperial Palace.

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>>51051666
Kek.

>>51052090
What about an Eversor?

>>51079966
An Eversor is generally the fist thing that you can encounter in the setting that can still be classified as infantry. So yea, an Eversor should have no problem ripping through an Archon... and his guard... and his reinforcements...

>>51079880
>and got rekt the moment custodes appeared?
Didn't they get to the golden throne? Wasn't their entire mission to just deliver a message instead of killing him?

>>51062534
the sisters will be grateful to be turned into fuck slaves for superior elf dick.

>>51080000
>An Eversor is generally the fist thing that you can encounter in the setting that can still be classified as infantry. So yea, an Eversor should have no problem ripping through an Archon... and his guard... and his reinforcements...

imperiumfags, i swear

>>51080001
No. The Custodes intercepted them at Eternity Gate and slaughtered them all except the leader, who was captured. They were cutting though ordinary palace guard up to that point. I know Harlequins are dangerous and i'm not underestimating the combat abilities of Eldar, but what you or whoever wrote the original post said was some Kaldor Draigo level bullshit. It was like me saying that 2 Eversor assassins can just waltz up to Abbadon or Eldrad, ripping though all their guard, and kill them.

>>51080035
Dude, they are documented ripping through seasoned Space Marines like wet toilet paper and are literally organic killing machines. Seriously, who's gonna be more powerful, your special snowlfake edgy elf ninjas or creatures that have been warped with science to the point they can't even be called human anymore and exist literally only to kill?

>>51080046
I may have confused this with another incident, I could swear there was something where Eldar delivered a message directly to the golden throne.
>It was like me saying that 2 Eversor assassins can just waltz up to Abbadon or Eldrad, ripping though all their guard, and kill them.
Well, Eldrad and some harlequins had some unfortunate clash with some few death guards nowadays.

>>51080129
>I could swear there was something where Eldar delivered a message directly to the golden throne
No, that's the only event of the Eldar infiltrating the Imperial Palace, and yes, they were delivering a message. Except they barely got withing sight of the Eternity Gate before the Custodes just slaughtered them.
>Well, Eldrad and some harlequins had some unfortunate clash with some few death guards nowadays.
Are you talking about how Slaanesh personally came and took Eldrad?

>>51045353
And how2Get them to where they need to be? Beam them across, or something?

If the Dark Eldar suddenly got freed of Slaanesh, what would they do?

>>51080165
>Are you talking about how Slaanesh personally came and took Eldrad?
No, there was some recent story where Eldrad and some Harlequins tried a ritual with which they wanted to summon Ynnead, which might have destroyed Slaanesh, but a few death guards intercepted, destroyed the Harlequins, don't know what happened to Eldrad.

>>51080081
>Seriously, who's gonna be more powerful, your special snowlfake edgy elf ninjas or creatures that have been warped with science to the point they can't even be called human anymore and exist literally only to kill?
Jesus fucking christ, Imperiumfags.
>Eldar are the edgy ninjas

>Eversor
>pumped full of drugs
>created only to kill
>has a skull as a face
>is not edgy
>is described as flipping and jumping around and killing things in seconds
>seriously not some kind of assassin
>muh dark brooding edgelord backstory of a creature created only to kill
It's not even what you are saying, because you are right that Eversors are really strong, but just how you presented it, like you completely misused those buzzwords. I mean think about it and look at the description of an Eversor, Eldar are supposed to be edgelords here?

>>51065859

You Mary Sue'd there bra.

>>51080243
Well that just sounds like bullshit, unless they were Mortarion's handpicked champions or some shit, or a literal army against a few Harlequins.

>>51080265
>>Eldar are the edgy ninjas
I thought you were talking about Dark Eldar, since we were talking about Eversor vs Archon, and Dark Eldar are much more melee oriented. Eldar are not edgy. My bad, but an honest mistake, given the circumstances.

Cause lets face it, Compared to Dark Eldar, an Eversor isn't edgy at all.

>>51080317
>Compared to Dark Eldar, an Eversor isn't edgy at all
Eeeeeehhh, at least they get as close as the Imperium can get, I would say.

>>51080267
Yea, cause Vect would NEVER do something like this and certainly never has.

It's not like i had the governor easily outsmart the Archon or anything. It was literally
>get call from Vect
>notify Space Marines
>prepare defences
And Vect even sabotaged the fleet.

Unless you're calling Vect a Mary Sue, in which case i have some VERY bad news for you.

>>51080367
Fair enough. But at least they're the fun kind of edgy.

Now, if we're talking about edge

Night Lords

MY GOD

>>51080403
>But at least they're the fun kind of edgy.
Yes, can agree with that.

>>51057513
>>51057646
Only the ultimate troglodyte wife beater wouldn't hesitate to punch a woman with full strength in the face who isn't even trying to defend herself.

But that is exactly the appeal.
The taboo.
Also, no matter how much we know punching someone defenseless repeatedly in the face is wrong, it's still a thought that instinctually comes up when dealing with certain people.

>>51082260
>Only the ultimate troglodyte wife beater wouldn't hesitate to punch a woman with full strength in the face who isn't even trying to defend herself.
In most scenarios, anyway.

Here it just looks like he's getting off on it.