Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

>>51005193
Thanks, OP.

First for DON'T FUCK WITH THE GENERAL'S FORMATTING

How fun are farsight conclaves?

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What are you up to today /tg/?
I'm just redoing some bases and throwing some Agrax on them.

>>51005238
Pretty good, and they can actually melee if that's what you want to do.

Is cool to have a decent general.

>>51005243

Giving into the hate anon?

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>>51005243

Currently converting my Dreadknight. Giving him an armoured shell rather than open exoskeleton look.

Also would people be willing to look over my army list please? New to all this. Thought the Inq warband would be a great way to add some firepower.

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>>51005193
I found someone responding to me a few threads back so I wanted to answer them

>Rending Punisher is great, and even better if you make him your Warlord so him and his buddy re-roll 1's to hit and wound. This is good because it helps you re-roll Gets Hot rolls for the Executioner.

>That's a load of bull. Gets Hot! Roll is a separate roll from to To hit. Check FAQ. PE doesn't affect it.

Here's the FAQ. I didn't believe it either at first.

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>>51005243
How do i highlight?
Memeing aside i really don't see much of a difference between attempting to go over edges vs drybrushing

There a way to actually get a proper Black Tide going under 1000 points? Helbrecht seems like a must and Grimaldus' re-roll/FNP bubble certainly also is a HUGE help surviving, but unless I don't take any toys I can at max get 3 12-man squads in.

Do I remember correctly that Hive Fleet Behemoth was defeated when an Imperial Battleship kamakaze'd them by blowing up its warp drive? Was that a killy explosion or did they get sucked into the Warp? A bunch of Tyranids visiting the Daemon World of Cadia after Abaddon wins would be even more hilarious than the Octarian War.

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Nth for space sharks! I've got a big game coming up, how does my list stack up, guys?
3500 Charcaradons
Vulkan is actually Tyberos
Terminators are troops
Tacticals all purchased ccws
Storm Raven is actually a Xiphon
Devastators and assault marines will combat squad for maximum carnage T2.

Also: swords, axes, or claws on assault sergeants?

>>51005305

rerolling 1s to hit=/=rerolling to hit

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>>51005306
Well for your nurgle dudes maybe use rotten flesh or whatever the new GW color is called.

>>51005377

Never played in games that big but I played against a smaller squad of Space Sharks last night.

Rage is brutal!

I'm thinking of scouting an Inquisitor retinue of crusaders and SS+Plasma Acolytes upfield with a mystic to pinpoint deep strike scions early game. Is this retarded? Also do Mystics get the same upgrades as acolytes or does the wording imply if you make them mystics they get their laspistols and nothing else?

>>51005377
>land raider with five lightning claw terminators

are you me?

>>51005400
Yes but PE allows you to reroll Gets Hot rolls of 1 with weapons that dont roll to hit. Clearly said in the FAQ.

>>51005400
That's wrong. It's a re-roll to hit.

>>51005401
Is Nurgle's Rot what you're thinking of anon?

>FOUR fucking generals up RIGHT NOW
get your fucking shit together /40kg/
>>50996404
>>51000154
>>51004902
>>51005193

>>51005421
Gotta make tyberos' rules worthwhile somehow! Plus their only job is to get Tyberos in charge range. He'll do the rest.

>>51005414
It certainly is, though I can't help but feel black Templars have the same chapter tactic but better.

>>51005243

Layer on mournland snowbase if that's what it's still named, wash agrax and drybrush bone.
Shit looks great.

HQ

Lhamean
Venom [Splinter Cannon]

Elites

8x Kabalite Trueborn
2x Trueborn [Splinter cannon]
Raider [Disintegrator cannon, Night Shields, Shock Prow, Splinter Racks]

Troops

4x Kabalite Warriors
Kabalite Warrior [Blaster]
Venom [Splinter Cannon]

4x Kabalite Warriors
Kabalite Warrior [Blaster]
Venom [Splinter Cannon]


Fast Attack

Razorwing Jetfighter [2 Dark Lances, 4x Monoscythe Missile, Twin-linked Splinter Rifle]

4x Reavers
2x Reavers [Cluster caltrops]

Scourge
4x Scourge [Haywire blaster]


Corpsethief Claw
2x Talos [Ichor Injector, Twin-Linked Splinter Cannon]
3x Talos [Chain-Flails, Twin-Linked Splinter Cannon]


Scalpel Squadron
4x Wracks
Wrack [Liquifier Gun]
Venom [Splinter Cannon]

4x Wracks
Wrack [Liquifier Gun]
Venom [Splinter Cannon]

Will this do senpaitachi

>>51005465
there's only two non-shit generals, one of which is bump limited

>>51005480
Might do it if I get some sexy Vostroyan auxiliaries anon. And has Vostroya anon been posting recently? I know he posted a few days ago.

>>51005482
I prefer ossefactors of my scalpel squadrons. Theyre a bit hit or miss. Also you are fairly low on AT. I would replace the venoms for the trueborn with 4 blasters, and the raider with splinter racks and shield for the regular mooks with a cannon.

>>51005458
Nurgles rot is a technical color to achieve some slimy effect, nothing I would use for highlighting. It seems the new name is Nurgling green, but I dont know if thats an exact match to the old rotting flesh color.

>>51005243
Hello again, GGA. Happy to hear you're taking that Agrax tip I mentioned! So what are you thinking for the rest of your guys? Are you doing the dirtied look?

And I never got to ask, but will you do the same on your vehicles? They're always easy to rough up, and it makes everything look coherent

>>51005306
Edge Highlighting gives a sharper cleaner finish, drybrushing gives a safter rougher finish. The former is better for smooth, manufactured surfaces like armor or doing detailed areas where drybrushing would get spill onto other finished parts of a model. Drybrushing is good for large organic surfaces like skin and fur, or for really big models like vehicles where you're painting a huge area similarly and are willing to sacrifice some precision for speed.

Generally, if you have steady enough hands to do neat highlights, the less you use drybrushing, the better your minis will look. That said, Plaguebearers are a pretty good candidate for drybrushing.

This tutorial illustrates the difference fairly well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_odi1c7ErCg

>>51005401
I'm using Nurgling Green for both dry, and the occasional edge - i like the deep green daemons desu

>>51005567
Thanks anon

>>51005465
can't be helped, this happens every few months since people disagree on either the OP image, formatting, or some other inane thing

we should vote on it some time or draft some new OP images

Farsight enclaves let you secretly record units to destroy? What other armies let you have secrets?

>>51005603
Haven't seen any issues with the various images people have been using. This is just someone deciding to be cute with formatting ans another just forgetting the title.

>>51005657
Any with a transport :^)

>>51005657
Dark Angels

>>51005702
Not this shit again.

>>51005702
If you don't let an alpha legion player do that, you're the dick.

>>51005702
If my Dreadnought (a Walker) is embarked on a Stormraven (transport), is the Dreadnought a vehicle? If not since it's flying does that make it a FMC? Obviously it still wouldn't be a MC either way.

>>51005306

This mane, fucking nearly lost my shit when i saw how many highlight paints GW wanted me to buy just to highlight my dudes.

>>51005243
>2017
>not using a wet pallet

You're just letting your money dry up bruv

...So Sisters and Templars are getting a Crusade detachment. How fucked am I for playing both?

I can equip a Hive Tyrant with wings with a lash whip and bonesword + biocannon, right?

If yes, how the fuck do you model that?

>>51005565
Yes I'm seeing if some Agrax on them might help as well. If it doesn't look as dirty as I want I might buy the new paints next time I'm at GW. And the Demolishers are pretty dirtied up I just don't know what to do about the lighter Grey Russes.

How much of my time am I wasting if I try to use the Thousand Sons special rules outside of a Grand Coven?

>>51005779
>If yes, how the fuck do you model that?

The plastic kit uses the spikes on the feet to represent Scything Talons, though obviously that's not much help for a Lashwhip and Bonesword. You could convert the gun to be protruding from its back like an Exocrine, or built into the chest with just the muzzle emerging, like the bioweapons carried by Raveners.

>>51005689
lucky you then since it's a common complaint

>why isn't the OP using the meme image?! how can i find the general now?

>>51005778
4/10 GW put their hands down your pants but doesn't wanna go all the way or decurion with you. just a formation between friends while he texts the eldar player he's been eyeing for a while

>>51005419
Also is fantasy generally the same scale as 40k? I was thinking of using warriors of chaos for Crusaders and Acolytes.

>>51005264
Meme list ?

>Terminators
>obamas
>Malleus inquisitor


All AT in the world will be directed to your expensive shit-all Chimeras.

You don't even have any units with the Obama's to really game the weapon buffs.

Just use the bullshit new GK attatchment to get near-free DK's and skip the rest of the shit. (if you don't understand this part just kys)

Use obamas with storm bolter acolytes in 4-5 gunboat chimeras. Roll a D6 and put that many Inquisitors in your list.

Put a psyker in every squad.

Use the best of both codex and tell your opponent to suck your dick if he whines about it.

>>51005779
You can, and you shouldn't.
Dual twin-linked devourers with brainleech worms and wings with electroshock grubs.

Technically if you look at the feet they have scything talons on them. But for lwbs/cannon you will need to model him on the ground. Break the 6 limbs rule and snip off a set of vents replacing them with daemon prince wings or even standard tyrant wings. It will fit perfectly and will even be modeled closer to the ground for cover.

I have one with lwbs/maw claws and wings, but I dont have the picture for it.

>>51005854
Most Chaos Daemons are interchangable between 40k and Fanatasy and I keep seeing people use Skaven rifles on 40k models so I assume they are the same sized.

>>51005732
Yes, the dreadnought becomes a vehicle. Don't forget that if your dreadnought starts the game in a drop pod, it also becomes a drop pod. This rule also applies to infantry, so go ahead and enjoy that squad of tactical marines embarked in a Rhino that are now all tanks!

>>51005482
>No AT

How does it feel to get literally tank-shocked to death ?

It's like that scene in that one french movie where a girl gets anally raped in a tunnel.

That's how your army is going to feel after going against any mid-tier vehicle transport list.

>Razorwing
LOL

>>51005869
Do you have any pics of your tyranid army anon?

>>51005519

I'm working on my Mortar teams atm.
Will post my finished Deathstrike when I get back from work.

>>51005905
>It's like that scene in that one french movie where a girl gets anally raped in a tunnel.
Anon I don't think that's /tg/ related.
But tell me more

>>51005778
Get hype. Crusade eternal, brother. Deus vult!

>>51005924
>Mortars

>>51005869
>Break the 6 limbs rule

DO NOT DO THIS

I SWEAR TO GOD

DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE

>>51005844
Well crap. At least I can build the ultimate witch hating army by taking a Crusader detachment add in a witch hating assassin, Null Rod Hereticus Inqusitor and some Sisters of Silence to make Eldar bitches cry tears of blood.

>>51005419
>Stormshield + Plasma acolytes
>BS3 WS3 T3 1A
>Is this retarded?

Are you the same retard I tabled that brought two massive groups of Power-Axe + Stormshield acolytes to the table ?

"Muh value" They cost over EACH 30p you fucking idiot

>>51005924
Thank you fellow Guard bro.
My lads would be honored to share a shot of space Vodka with yours.

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>>51005907
I have a few of my objective markers, sporefields and custom harpy/hive tyrant. But not of my full force.

This is kind of what I was talking about though, daemon prince so gs on carnifex bodies fit perfectly. Tail is flying tyrant tail upside down. Makes him look like he's corkscrewing.

Jeez never noticed the chipped paint on the muzzle...

>>51005482
>8x Kabalite Trueborn
>2x Trueborn [Splinter cannon]
>Raider [Disintegrator cannon, Night Shields, Shock Prow, Splinter Racks]

that is waaaay to expensive for what it brings to the table
also given two splinter cannons it wants to stand still therefore you dont need the shockprow

I think Liquifier guns are too expensive as well.

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>>51005905
>>Razorwing
>LOL

Razorwings are pretty good though, by Dark Eldar standards. They're the best anti-air option we have, don't cost too much, and the missiles+Lances mean it'll never find itself without a decent target.

>>51005962
What army did you play?

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>>51005193
JUST make sure two apply two thin coats

>>51005966
Reminds me of Space Godzilla in a way.

Anybody know any more info about that new dark Eldar box game that's coming out? Release date? Price? Contents? All I know is from the GW community blog.

>>51005985
My old OOOOOLD vanilla sister of battle list.

Absolutely RAPED him.

I have no idea why Inquisition 'generals' are so fucking daft. They keep trying to find awesome "loopholes" in the "new" garbage codex.

There's 1-2 things that stand out, that's it.

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Anyone know when the new WD is actually out?

>>51005945

5pts in a 30pts Platoon command squad that can snipe special weapons is worth it in my book, Anon.

>>51005965

And my boys fight shoulder-to-shoulder with rifle fire and bayonet with your troopers, guard Anon.

>>51005962
Power armor and storm bolters then? Crusaders used as the defensive wall instead?

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Sporefields

>>51006001

Yeah I guess. The tyrant looks pretty sweet with carnifex heads for hands. "Maw" claws. He's a bitch to stow away, though.

>>51005974

need to update that, make the sister thicker

>>51006037
7th.

>>51006052

First wait 5 months time or February, depending on your leak source.

>>51006052
Meh. M36 power armour made by a church will never be as paper thin as the magic armour designed by the Emperor for the Sisters of Silence (who likely wear real corsets and not ones that just look corsets).

>>51005954
this is gonna sound mean; but how often are you denying psychic powers with adamatium will? self buffing powers are more useful like invisibility or prescience and i see those used a lot more then psychic shriek

when i'm denying powers i'm using at least 6 dice for every 3, 4 for force weapons because fuck you grey knights i'm not losing my greater daemons that easily

>>51006092
>lost the ability to make sexy armour like the eldar

I am ok with this, it actually kind of makes sense

where's the write-faggotry about celestine mopy and pouty because her new armour is much heavier than her old armour, also the old armour was much more durable due to superior technology

will we get more genstealer stuff soon?
they feel unfinished to me

>>51006123
you can't deny force weapon activation

>>51006123
Psychic hating assassin, and Sisters of Silence allies were mentioned because they fuck with enemy psykers and their warp charge pool.

>>51006137
no, their book is finished

you're more likely to get an actual 'nid codex than more gsc

>>51006128
Because Celestine's armour is from ~M36 and was nicked from a tomb and has always been the same armour?

>>51006050
Power armor acolytes + Storm bolters
+ Xeno Inquisitor with PA and all grenades
+ Obama monkeys
+ Psyker


The monkeys give them all +2 armor and another extremely OP freebie for your stormbolters.

It's all expensive but much better than you were planning to do.

>>51006123
>AW
What? The Null Rod and SoS both make psychic powers simply cease to exist. Fuck AW, they just cannot be targeted by powers, period.

>>51006148
yes you can, force is a psychic power and uses warp charges

>>51006186
How many monkey?

>>51006219
Two. It has always been two. More you risk entering the loophole of nothing

>>51006219
All of the monkey.

>>51006241
no, in imperial agents stacking many monkeys is fine

Which is the objectively worst space marine chapter?

>>51006261
Fluff or crunch wise?

>>51006261
blood angels if you believe ITC tournament results

your chapter if you believe skub posting

ultramarines if you believe old memes

>>51006261
Marines Malevolent or Steel Confessors

>>51006268
Fluff, I'm thinking Lamenters but maybe there's some obscure chapter of clusterfucks that I somehow missed?

>>51005243
Thanks Emperor!

>>51006291
>Lamenters
>worst
KYS

It's Marines Malevolent anyway

>>51006291
By fluff I'd say anyone who isn't a Black Templar. Why? Because they gave up on the great crusade and defend like a bunch of bitches who employ witches.

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>>51006051

>>51006320
at least fluff wise the other chapters aren't a gimped band of assholes walking around without a home

>>51006187
>>51006148
whoops, got my terms mixed up

fun fact, skulltaker with dogs denies warp charges against him on 3s

>>51005862

Where can I find this new GK attachment?

>>51006338
There are a lot of fleet based chapters. To include Dark Angels (secret traitors) and the Imperial Fists (Yellow Bananas with a construction fetish).

>>51006357
the dark angels still have the rock and the imperial fists really like building things

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>>51006261
>>51006291
Marines Malevolent
Not even the Salamanders like them

>>51006049
you do realize wounds are taken from the front right ? so no sniping special weapons with mortars

>>51006369
The rock is a chunk of their corrupted planet that they cry over so hard they painted their armour green so they could remember the fucking trees.

And it's infested with Jawas. Which may or may not be Tzeentch daemons in disguise.

>>51006397
Gotta snipe with Ordnance instead.

>>51006414
*barrage

>>51006399
yeah but the jawas are cool and at least they're not homeless like the gay templars who have to mix their scouts into their normal squads because they have no formal training compound

given how high the mortality rate is for normal scout training one can imagine how bad it is for the templars who have to take basically untrained humans with them

no wonder they're dead/dying and lost their individual dex

>>51006261
Grey Knights.

The fuckers are useless.

>>51006431
Learning how to walk off being shot IS training. Anyone chapter that says otherwise is a pussy.

>>51006369

Imperial Fists built a space fortress they travel around in.

Also Carcharodons are fleet based, or at least seem that way because they stalk above and below the galactic disk.

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>>51006037

Sup my nig nog what do you want to know and I'll photo it and post it for you

>>51006432
>grey knights

>awesome fluff
>excellent as allies which fits their fluff
>best wargear the imperium has to offer
>personal teleporters

no anon, grey knights are fucking cool

for extra hotness play SoB and ally in grey knights and then hammer hand a sister blob squad for maximum kek

>>51006261
Black Legion ;-)

>>51006463

Release dates and pricing, if available, should take priority.

Also, what have we not seen?

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>>51005305
GW facebook FAQ.

Is there a reason why you retards think you need to have multiple 40k generals going at the same time?

>>51006468
>Even more marine sue than every other Marine sue
>Fluff is full of contradictions and idiot balls, even more than normal 40k
>only useful as allies, in other words only useful as cucks.
>"Best wargear" only if you ignore Mars.

No they suck, both on the table and in their stories.

>>51006499
because some retards are unable to properly format the general so it can be:

A) located
B) read

but that's 40k players for you, the dumbest of the lot are incapable of copy pasting the general

>>51006521
that's just like your opinion man, on the table they perform better than blood angels, just look at the ITC results from 2016 :)

>>51006499
Because this is a 40k board with added stuff?

Did you forgot that /tg/ was created because /b/ was getting raided by 40k threads


The actual answer is because it happens from time to time. Or because some anons got piss about some anal thing regarding the Op or some shit

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>>51006332
Cute. Silly string is very close. It's actually spray insulation foam covered in hot glue. Or for the spores its dollar store fake grapes and plastic hollow golf balls with hot glue.

Shit is tight.

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>>51006478

£50 supposedly

Dark Eldar fans will like my next photo

>>51006537
>ITC results

Nice meme

>>51006551
Necromunda 2: DE boogaloo?

>>51006551
>Dark Eldar fans will like my next photo
...is it porn? Or drugs? Or both?

>>51005835
>>51005869
Shit, I thought it would be something drastic like that. I wanted to try a cc flyrant to go in a skytyrant swarm, as the 20 gargoyle wounds mean that gliding isn't too awful for a turn after deep strike, then it can tie up some back line units.

I do have one that I'm modelling as a traditional flyrant, I guess I'll just have to experiment when I get a second tyrant kit. How does the tyrant look one-handing a bio cannon? Cannon in one hand, sword in the other, then make the argument that it uses its tail like a lash whip?

>>51005948
6 limbs rule?

>>51006551
I want rules not prices. If I have to buy the retarded bundle I want at least to know if they suck ass

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>>51006468
>best wargear
>no grav or drop pods

i will admit the fluff is pretty cool and i play daemons. so it works on 2 levels for me. the heroic characters fighting space horrors and reading about daemons

>>51006551
Is it a Wych glued to your dick?

So apparently I'm a massive faggot if I play tau?

Well fuck you.

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>>51006551

>>51006589
Well depends. What does your army look like and consist of?

>>51006573
>6 limbs rule?

Tyranids have a few common traits that they all share no matter how extreme their biology is. Six limbs, five carapace plates on the head, and a tail. Sometimes they're atrophied, occasionally they're merged together (like the Pyrovore's forelimbs), but they all share these same features no matter how weird they otherwise are. It's important because it helps bind the army together into a coherent whole, instead of just being a rabble of weird monsters.

>>51006481
>>51005305
Wasn't this amended in the final official FAQ, along with the jinking transports thing?

>>51006596
Is that the same font MtG has taken to using?

>>51006589
No you are massive faggot if you bring rape Tide wings or STORMSURGE at friendly games for waac sake.

Playing tournament? I don't give a fuck if you entire army are Eldar jetbikes with a single inquisitor and call it a SoB army

>>51006481
That is the one overwritten by the one I posted.

>>51006596
oh yay, some new box filled with a bunch of models I already own and rules for a game no one will play. I want a new goddamn codex that isn't trash, OR, fuck it, I'll take plastic incubi and courts. This wont be the next Necromunda, because whenever GW does release the next Necromunda they'll call it Necromunda, not Gangs of Commoragh.

>>51006605
Basically just a farsight hunter cadre right now.

Eventually I want to field the 8 and replicate seven samurai type stories.

>>51006463
>>51006478
I just want to know the price of the Inquisitor/Celestine/Techtaur mega-bundle that nobody wanted.

Seems I'll have to get the entire thing just for my Inquisitor and Celestine.

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>>51006581

I suppose daemons by and large have no armour save, so they choose not to aquisition grav weapons?

Yeah that sounds good, i'll keep telling myself that...

>>51006575

They pretty much outright state in WD that you have to buy the fall of cadia supplement book if you want to learn the special rules, even the battle report doesn't give anything really away.

>>51006637
>>51006611
I was out of the hobby for a year. My bad.

>>51006669

£50 or $80 US

>>51006397

Barrage weapons allocate wounds as if the shooter was in the blast centre.

>>51006708
Thanks my niggynoo.
£50 is a fifth of my NEET money for this month, but fuck it, when has being responsible ever been fun?

>>51005778
You are fucked! Im more fucked because I only have a Repentia squad so Im hoping the detachment itself will be able to work for only Black Templars and only Sisters.

>>51006589
not necesarily, we have a guy who plays 75% kroot, and the rest are fire warriors and little suits. hes an ok guy

>>51006752
Sisters are my main army. I only started Black Templars a little before I found out that they were in the Fall of Cadia book so I'm actually right there with you.

>>51006748

Comes out on the 14th along with the book bro

How do I get that cool burnt effect on the end of weapon muzzles?

>>51006675
that's a good point but you gotta admit putting concussive on a keeper or bloodthrister would be nice

>>51006795
brown drybrushed and then black more towards the front.

>>51006548
>>51006051
Lovin it, done any more scenery?

Please lord just be a reprint of the War Convocation with maybe a bit more flexibility on the Skitarii side

>>51006862
Please lord be a Decurion-style detachment which has the War Convocation bonuses as its Command Benefits.

>>51006862
>please gw bless my army with a cheese formation

>>51006596
Is the Khan in it?

>>51006862
War convocation is probably the most overpowered formation. Making it better would be a bad idea.

Though I would like more flexibility on the skitarii side too.

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>>51005243
Painted furor shield watch company quartus' ancient numero uno yesterday and started his friends. Ha-ha time for 5 assault cannons, etc.

Dear all mighty Emperor,

Please bless my army with the means to more effective feed my blessed chainsword to the foes of humanity.

Dues vult,

The Black Templars

>>51006573
One-armed could be cool. Gteenstuff an eyeball into the tube hole to fill it. The sword would need to be the shorter swarmlord saber, though, as the big sword is right-handed. Or just snip the big sword blade off and put it on the left saber hand.

>6 limbs
All nods have 6 main limbs if you look closely. Never more. Never less.

>>51006906
>>51006888
To be honest, I'm in agreement that it could stand to have a debuff, but given the likelihood between GW doing a reprint/psuedo-reprint or creating an entirely new thing which turns out to be fucking worthless Orkurion, I'd rather have the reprint.

>>51006943
>All nods have 6 main limbs if you look closely. Never more. Never less.
And that's why they're "bugs".

>>51006186
But if I take a Xeno I can't scout a forward drop position. That's kind of what I wanted.

>>51006917
That's so sexy.

>>51006923

Can't wait for you BT players to start complaining that you have to take SoB units to use whatever new rules are coming.

>>51006917
I love gold-on-black schemes. The matte of it all is nice as well, too often people polish it to a shine.

>>51006991
Eh, I'm the guy who collects both so meh.

>>51005193
So if I have a Priest and a Commissar Lord in the same unit, does the Priest roll his War Hymns with 10 Leadership? Or for War Hymns, do you always use the Priests individual Leadership.

>>51006991
Hey...

Neither Sisters nor Black Templars take a vow of chastity, right?
Just asking for a friend, ha ha.

>>51006906
If they make it worse Noone will ever use it, anon.

>>51007015
Priest always uses his own leadership not the unit's.

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>>51005526
>>51005905
>>51005973

Alright removed the Trueborns with Blasterborn in a venom and made space for another set of Scourges, I considered Ravagers but they just get fucked way to fast to shoot at something

I'm keeping the Liquifiers on the Wracks so they actually have a chance for kill something first turn which they couldn't do it without them

Thanks

Why wasn't a Space Marine chapter based on Cadia? Seems like a pretty good place to get super-human soldiers from. Could have helped out.

>>51007015

Priest rolls his leadership of 7.

>>51007019
Why would a eunuch need a vow of chastity?

Oh wait, right. Pegging.

>>51006646
it has necromunda campaign rules though and card-stock terrain

>>51007039

There are a dozen chapters based around the Eye of Terror

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>>51006860
Not much aside from model bases, that ruins, the spores, and these objectives. Big one is on a dreadnought base.

I might do a spawning pool and a couple capillary towers soon, though.

>>51007015
>>51007029
Thanks guys.

>>51006979
The new book is retarded.

Use options from both (old) books at the same time, NOBODY will give you grief. Even tournaments are up in arms about it.

Grenades is mostly another melee failsafe though. Not 100% necessary. Put Cortaz in there instead.

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I quite like dark Eldar's fluff and models, are they any viable right now

>>51006596
>bullshit minigame with models that I can't use in real 40k because of different scales and WYSIWYG

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>>51007077

I feel like this is a meme. People coming in these generals and asking if the worst armies in the game (nids, Orks, DE) are viable. Happens at least a few times every general.

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>>51006987
>>51007001
Thanks, I gotta say after painting imperial fists for years, getting a chance to work with black, silver, red, and gold is a dream.

I gotta decide what chapter to make the ancient, I'm thinking black templars or ultras cause I'm pretty sure I can fit a white transfer on the knee pad.

>>51007039
Because then you'd be exterminating the populace even faster, thats why planets pay their tithe either by raising regiments or being a space marine recruitment planet.

It takes thousands of children to fill up a company of space marines.

>>51007077
If you like Haemonculus Covens, they are.

>>51007077
Not the most awful army but not a good one.

>>51007077
>are they any viable right now

No DE are only slightly above Tyranids and Orks pretty much only because they have lots of poison

Also there's a straight up better FW faction that are called Corsairs that DE significantly better than DE

>>51006888
Let's be honest here. If the new formation isn't as good as war convocation then it will never ever see the light of day. This can go 3 ways. It will have worse bonuses and never be used because the same models can make the op war convo. It will be the same. Or it will be even stronger.

>>51007121
>Also there's a straight up better FW faction that are called Corsairs that DE significantly better than DE

This. Corsairs are the best way to play Dark Eldar right now. Better drugs, better biker bikes. They even get the old 5th ed webway portals.

>>51007077
You're in the garbage bin with Guard, Orkz, Tyranids and Tempestus Scions. It's okay man, all my armies are in the garbage bin and I still have fun. You can make decent builds for casual and semi-competitive games. Hardcore competitive games are a mess of cheese and ally shenanigans anyway.

>>51007077
so long as you like kabalite warriors, venoms and maybe a raider or two, yes they're fine.

assuming you're not playing against 3x riptides and wulfen spam that is

if you want to be WAAC tourney-mode then you'll take a minimal archon court as a tax and some raiders/venoms and rely on 3x riptides and craftworld eldar with a wraithknight

also there's a cool necromunda game coming out for dark eldar so that gives you a reason to build/play with your toys

>>51007103
we really don't do much besides talk shit and post models

>>51007154
Guard aren't garbage anon. They're mid tier and always have been.

>>51007121
>>51007150
Ok then, thanks

I'll just do some light conversions (maybe) and look them in FW

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>>51007179

>>51007200
>Ants laughing.

>>51007179
In terms of how competitive they are capable of being, they are in the garbage bin. Guard armies that finished like 4th, 6th, 10th in various competitions weren't even primarily Guard. It's like, as CCS, Vet Squad and a Platoon and then nothing but formations from stronger armies. I'm a Guard player and they have been my favorite army since 3rd, but they aren't strong.

And they always haven't been mid-tier. They were strong in 5th.

>>51007242

Do you still run your IG? What's your list look like?

>>51007242
Guard would be a solid top 10 army if it weren't for Renegade and Heretics.

Basically all guard players are playing that instead now, they just too a shart over their guardsmen and put some spikes on their vehicles to make it look dark and evil.

So can we all agree there's littlerally nothing wrong with keeping information on the contents of transports hidden from your opponent?

>>51007328
Meme source?

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This is the space marine vehicle transfer sheet - can anyone illuminate me as to what that skull symbol is to the left of the yellow blood angel mark? My first thought was silver skull chapter symbol but when I compared them it didn't seem right.

>>51007328
No, we can't. I would be annoyed if someone did that to me. It's faggy behavior, even in a competitive game.

>>51007328
There's nothing inherently wrong or against the rules about it, its just a dick move.

>>51007187
You can pretty much use a lot of the DE models as Corsiars they have the options for splinter weapons, Venoms and Dark Lances and I'd say Malenvolents are just slightly more Slaanesh-y Kabalites

>>51007352
>>51007328
Yeah, it's a pretty shit move where the whole game consists of knowing your opponent's units and composition. Plus, not everybody is an upstanding citizen like you and it raises opportunities for cheating.

>>51007335

last thread

>>51007328
>Trusting your opponent not to swap important units around the battlefield on a whim.

Ok.

Why is it so hard for people to get pronunciation correct?

I got this local fat know-it-all who always pronounces Bjorn as "buh-jorn" and Njal as "nuh-jahl."

>>51007344
It's Silver Skulls, just a little weird.

>>51007268
Guard would also be Top 10 if the Top 10 armies were worse. If you look at the stats from tournaments, Guard are finishing around 17th out of 19.

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My New year's res this year was to never play with another unpainted model, so I'm going back and finishing up things I've been neglecting or have used proxies for. I've have commissars stand in for all three of these guys for years, finally getting them their own models now.

What are you guys working on?

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>>51007399

The worst is the local IG player who calls his lasguns, 'lays-guns'

>>51007328
you can do that but if you're going to cheat then I'm going to take 9 riptides without paying the points cost, and then when I blow up all your vehicles turn 1 it won't matter where your infantry hop out because turn 2 they'll all be obliterated

>>51007407
Oh really? Neato. Thanks. I was searching for a nice second founding chapter transfer for deathwatch purposes.

>>51007419

As in LAS(er) guns?

>The rules don't say I CAN'T do this!

How does this infect every /tg/ hobby?
Do people not understand the difference between permissive and restrictive rules, or do they just not care?

>>51007259
>>51007268
From what I've seen when playing games Guard seem to be mostly stuff in the middle of the pack from what I've seen. But no matter what I'll keep playing them and hold the line for the God-Emperor.

>>51005243
Wow, those bases looks like shit senpai, have you considered not having them not quite so orange?

>>51005774
what this guy said

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96mjmqWTPfM

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Does anyone here have some good Deus Vult memes with Black Templars??

>>51007446

If you're going to shitpost please bring up the golden refrain of 'I'm not going to play the game for my opponent' already.

>>51007418
Nice dark scheme. Very blanche.

>>51007359
actually RAW you have to be explicitly clear which transport is carrying which unit

and if your opponent asks what the unit is outfitted with you have to provide every wargear and special rule which the squad has

>>51007419
>the laysgun meme is back

I approve of our salty overlords

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>>51007456

Does GW sell any? I can't be bothered to make my own.

>>51007454
That's why I'm putting some Agrax on them to darken them up.

>>51007418
What did you do with Psyber?

>>51006917
there is something about smooth matte that just looks badass

>>51007463
I think you think that I'm in agreement with not showing what's in your transports.
I am not.
I guess my post wasn't exactly specific, but I figured by use of the word 'infect', it would imply that I thought of people who treated 40k's rules as restrictive as an infection, i.e. a negative.

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>>51007462
Christian go home

>>51007490
Privateer Press does https://www.amazon.com/Privateer-Press-Formula-Palette-Model/dp/B001F8OLZQ/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1483475044&sr=8-4&keywords=wet+palette

>>51007399
I play 30k admech. You don't know my pain.

>"So, is that a castolox autima?"

>>51007466
Can you cite page number and source? I don't doubt it, I just want to be able to point people to it.

>>51007419
I pronounce the "la" as in "last" but I can at least understand why someone would pronounce it as "lay" considering it's a laser gun.

I fucking hate people who say "chim-er-uh".

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>>51007547
>Privateer Press

I ASKED ABOUT GAMES WORKSHOP

>>51007419
the anger is real

>>51007569
>does games workshop sell a product which reduces the paint you waste

no

if you don't want to support PP then there are literally thousands of craft companies which sell wet palettes for dirt cheap, we're talking sub $10

>>51007462
I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS MEME FOR WEEKS AN HERO

>>51007154
What are the good armies?

>>51007419
But they're right, though. >>51007437
If English isn't your first language you get a pass for saying >>51007560 because it's pronounced "lah-zer" in a lot of other languages.

>>51007328
Yes.
I usually ask, and do myself, stick one of the models that's inside it on the transport

No Schrodinger's melta on my watch

>>51007259
I constantly rotate my lists and use a lot of various things and often times I take overpriced fun units like Bullgryns or special characters like Yarrick and Straken.

However, if I'm trying to be more aggressive and competitive I try to take from these kinds of unit if I'm going pure Guard.

- Pask in Punisher with Executioner buddy
- Company Command Squad with Plasma Guns and any of the advisors depending on what my army is like
- Engiseer in a big blob that moves with Leman Russ tanks so it's a bubble wrap that allows me to heal the tanks
- Melta Vets in Chimera
- Plasma Vets in Chimera
- 40 man Conscript blob with Priest and Primaris Psyker
- 30-40 man Infantry blob with Autocannons, Flamers, Priest and Primaris Psyker
- Lascannon Heavy Weapons Squads
- Vendetta with Special Weapons Squad with Meltas inside
- 5 man squads of Scions with 2 Meltas
- Wvyerns
- Armored Sentinels with Autocannons or Plasma Cannons
- Emperor's Wrath formation with 2 Basilisks and Manticore
- Emperor's Fist with Pask loadout and at least 2 Vanquishers to benefit from the bubble of BS4

If I'm using Imperial Agents to ally things in, I usually like to take Astropaths and Inquisitors. My favorite is to take a Hereticus Inquisitor and give him that special wargear and give the Conscript blob Counter-Attack.

>>51006551

So that'll be £40 from certain retailers... that's fucking incredible value (comparatively) considering the Adeptus Mechanicus Magos is £20 on his own...

>>51005774
>implying that we are in here as a budget hobby

Go home pleb, come back when you want to spend too much money on toy soldiers like a real man

>>51007490
you cant be bothered to have a tuperware container and some paper towels?

>>51007569
>this brand loyalty

>>51007609
GGA here and that's pretty sweet anon. Which book are the Emperor's Fist rules in for future reference? I'm definitely looking to try to get a full armored company.

>>51007594
Craftworld Eldar, Imp Knights, Traitor Legions cult lists (maybe), ad mech, tau, crons

>>51007044
>eunuch

SMs have fat dongs anon.

Furthermore, BTs might be like SW--a little more lenient on the chastity thing since they're less monks and more, well, crusaders.

Though like the SoB, I doubt they'd find the time.

>>51007597
English is my first language and I don't say "lays-gun". Dunno why. It sounds odd to pronounce it "lays" to me and I've been saying it "lahs" for nearly two decades now.

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>>51007547

>$20 for a plastic box

BUY A $0.25 TUPPERWARE BOX
PUT A KITCHEN TOWEL IN
PUT SOME BAKING PAPER IN

>$0.35

holy fucking shit, please don't buy a $20 box from PP

>>51007618
>that's fucking incredible value

Only if you want all three characters. I just want the Inquisitor, but I suppose people will be breaking the sets down on Ebay soon enough after release.

>>51007328
As long as you marked each transport with a number and marked each unit inside a transport with the corresponding number so we can both be sure you aren't swapping, then I would have no issue with it. But to be fair it is a table top game and not meant to be an accurate representation of reality.

>>51007690
When you say baking paper are you talking about wax paper or something different?

>>51007665
What about Genestealers?

>>51007690
the crazy amount of money is because they use sponges

>>51007609

Don't forget psyocculum. 25 pts on a Xenos Inquisitor and your conscripts are BS 10 against psykers.

>>51007618

I paid £25 for five fucking custodes £50 for 3 heay hitter special characters is quite a steal

>>51007692

Here's a tip.

Preorder a box.

Set an eBay auction to finish the day of release for Cawl and Celestine.

You'll make your money back.

Trust me.

But you have to get in fast, the day of release. Any later and the market will be flooded

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>>51007659
GGA I love you.The Emperor's Fist is in the Cadia Supplement. It should be in the Freshest Rules link. Here is the page from the Cadia Supplement.

>>51007720
That too. I should try that and put the Inquisitor with the Infantry blobs so I have extra weapons. I usually put her with the Conscripts for Counter-Attack as a defensive melee unit, but the Psyocculum could be nice for a more shooty unit.

>>51007707
not him, but i use parchment paper, its not wax paper, but can be found on the same aisle as wax paper, tinfoil, plastic wrap etc.

>>51007666
Time spent having sex could be better spent purging heretics or training to become better at purging heretics. Leave the sex to the trillions of normal humans.

>>51007733
50 for 5 models, not just 3.

>>51007659

GGA Do you use sentinels?

>>51005243
Nice! With the black edges instead of silver they look much better already.

>>51007418
My resolution is to finish a Battle Company, and have 10 Dreadnoughts painted.

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>>51005243
Now put some lighter and darker camo on your vehicles.

>>51007841
Not GGA, but Sentinels can be pretty good. I'd recommend them in a few ways.

2-3 Scout Sentinels outflanking, equipped with either Autocannons or Multi-Lasers
2-3 Armored Sentinels with Autocannons, Multi-Lasers or Plasma Cannons
Use Armored Sentinels with Lascannons only if you have a Psyker that can give them Prescience

They are nice and cheap and force enemies to waste their light anti-tank on them instead of transports or other tanks. If they don't waste their light anti-tank on the Sentinels, then the Sentinels will harass vehicles and MCs all game. Prescience is really nice on them, especially for Plasma Cannons and re-rolling the Gets Hot roll and for Lascannons since they only have 1 shot.

>>51007690
>$20 for a plastic box

it's actually $5 for a plastic box because the stack of palette paper is $15

now, there was an old blog/youtube/whatever which compared palette paper, wax paper and parchment paper in terms of water throughput which sadly is no longer with us due to new google search metrics obliterating useful data from the internet

instead there are a million videos of women wearing makeup holding up wet palettes.

The long and the short is as follows:

If you wash whatever paper you use with warm soap and water you will preserve it and be able to use it time and time again in your wet palette.

Wax paper, butcher paper and parchment paper are specifically coated to minimize water throughput for use during baking. They will work for a wet palette but they'll have patches which have imperfect throughput which will dry out some parts of your paint.

Paper for wet palettes, sold by whatever company you choose, are the same material as the above however they're not coated at all, they have near perfect throughput.

Even after being used and washed countless times.


Now, considering that with amazon prime you can get the privateer press box for $16 which comes with a pad of 100 or so papers which are washable, reusable and don't deteriorate noticeably for as long as you live and the pad costs $15 normally

I would say that $1 is worth it for a box and a sponge which will last you until you die

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>>51005243

GGA,

I originally painted this Russ here for my Genestealer cult but enjoyed it so much and all your games / battle report pictures have inspired me to start a guard army.

Anyway, here's my first Russ, what do y'all think? (Posted once before in WIP)

(sorry, resized)

why is barrage different to blast
is barrage just a blast that does not require line of sight that scatters without ballistic skill reducing it?
the jews at games workshop are so stingy with rules that i can't find the rule anywhere, i don't have physical copies of rules and this particular section is omitted in the digital i have

>>51007908
>Use Armored Sentinels with Lascannons only if you have a Psyker that can give them Prescience

For what it's worth, I play Genestealer Cults with a trio of Lascannon-armed Armoured Sentinels and have been nothing but impressed. 48" actually puts you out of range of most enemy anti-tank weapons, so they can steadily chip away at the heaviest vehicles in relative safety.

>>51007965
barrage is just an extra rule that allows you to ignore line of sight, but if youi do your BS becomes 1

there is also some extra rules regarding multiple shots and barrage

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>>51007965

>>51007716
Genestealer Cults are definitely up there.

The other anon also forgot Space Marines, Dark Angels, and Daemons which are hovering in the top 4-5 with Eldar. Space Wolves are a little below Tau/Crons but also quite good.

>>51007965
Correct. It does not need line of sight and when a hit is rolled it hits, but if an arrow is rolled, it goes the full scatter.

Also, if a Barrage hits a vehicle, it always hits side armor. And how you decide what cover a unit gets is from the blast center. So say, if a unit is behind a building out of LoS, but they aren't in any kind of cover and the blast lands behind, they don't get cover.

>>51007965
>the jews are so stingy I cannot find the rules anywhere

you should check op because we have all the rules

>>51007965
>why is barrage different to blast

Barrage represents artillery weapons, like mortars and things, that are fired in an overhead arc. Blast just represents anything which explodes.

>is barrage just a blast that does not require line of sight that scatters without ballistic skill reducing it?

Basically yes. Cover saves and casualties are also determined from where the shot lands, not the position of the firing model.

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>>51008019
I'm considering building a Genestealer Cult as my first army, should I go for it?

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>>51007745
>Dat +1 ramming strength.
But Lemon Rushes already ram at S10...

>>51008036
Yes.

>>51007984
Maybe I'll try them more without using Prescience on them. I just like them basically having the same fire potential as a Vendetta but with more hullpoints and not being such an obvious thing to shoot first.

>>51008036
collect, build, and paint whatever army you like the look of

the rules are simple enough children play this game

some people will be like "waaah it's too complex"

fuck those people

paint cool things

>>51008036
As a first army it plays a little weird, might not be the most noob-friendly, and it will be a lot of assembly and painting to get started because they are very much a horde.

But new converts are always welcome to the Path of Ascendancy, brother! There seem to be a lot of us lurking the general so you'll get plenty of tips.

Is Sculpey an acceptable substitute for Green Stuff if you're making standalone (i.e. not attached) things or is there a reason I should stick to 2-component clay?

>>51008123
depends what you're sculpting

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My friend is fielding a jetbike/deepstrike army. He is talking about how his entire eldar/dark eldar army can deepstrike entirely with all kinds of fast attack shit. I have no idea what to do about this.

Most of this was all bargain bin stuff I snarfed up really cheap.

two command squads
60 guardsman
extra 10 various flamers, grenade launchers, plasma guns
9 missle launcher HW teams
14 stormtroopers(old models counts as scions I guess)
3 leman russes (battlecannon and heavy bolter front)
1 manticore
1 deathstrike (because I felt no matter how inefficient, I was obligated out of excessive force.)

What should I be doing to defeat a jetbike/deepstrike eldar/dark eldar army or will I die for Teh Emprah

Any help is appreciated. We are starting around 1000 pts. So far the only upside right now is the points on his list per unit is incredibly expensive.

>>51008048
>>51008048
>S10 naturally
How?
AV14 goes to S7, then S8 for tank.

S9 I guess from dozer blade

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>>51008249

>>51008305
Thanks, I guess I glossed over the heavy part and lopped it in with superheavy.

I don't think you can go over S10 with anything, so what's the point of the rule?

>>51008305
that deserves some kind of joke

>>51008353
There really isn't one. GW just completely fucked up, pretty much.
I guess in exceedingly rare circumstances, the AV of a Russ can be lowered by certain effects, and this would mitigate that by 1, but otherwise, it's a completely wasted Command Benefit.

>>51008353
None, Steel Host Formation is a much better detachment for a Russ army.

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chaosfag here, /tg/ now that we've gotten most of the preliminary Chaos bitching out of the way, how truly viable are the Traitor Legion armies?

I've heard strong things about the Death Guard, Alpha Legion, EC and co, which is great for me because I have enough models to collect all three.

I imagine it's still a bit early to tell, but how does this supplement perform against mid tier armies, high tier armies, and the comp meta?

pic related

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>>51008305
>>51008353
ONCE
AGAIN

GW proves it has no idea what the rules of it's own game are.
NO
IDEA
WHATSOEVER

>>51008424
I think the general consensus is that Death Guard are now rather strong, the others fall towards Mid Tier, and only really Thousand Sons came out poorly.

Generally, having free rules and formations adds a lot on its own, and Chaos has always had some decent tools at its disposal. Not sure if I'd put them quite on par with Tau or Loyalists, but I feel they could do rather well against Ad Mech or Necrons.

>>51008424
Depends.

Some legion benefits are negligible, some are fucking huge.

The strongest being death guard, everyone must take MoN but gets VoTLW for free and any model with VoTLW gets fearless, FnP and relentless for free as well.

Their small and flexible decurion also gives them stealth and allows them to reroll FnP rolls of 1.

>>51007841
No but i might try it. What would you recommend for their weapon load outs?

>>51008424
Death Guard are rather strong as far as I can tell, played them today in fact. 7:7 tie on objectives, with a small group of Skitarii Vanguard (with two PlasCals left), a couple Rangers and an Icarus Dunecrawler left for me, and a single regular Marine, a Heldrake on 2hp and a Daemon Prince ascended from an ML3 Sorceror for him. Might have been able to clinch it if it had gone on to T7, since the Heldrake was about to go off the board, my Rangers and Vanguard held objectives and his units were miles from mine, but such is the will of the dice gods.

DG stupidly large numbers of buffs kept them really strong, especially the Lord with the 3d6 fear test and I10 poison hits ripping through everything that tried to hurt him, and only died from some Kataphrons sacrificing themselves to the Daemon Prince next to them in order to grav him from range. Probably should have played with more terrain, but the GW is a bit stingy and that was what we have.

>>51007870
I'll try anon. Any tips to do camo patterns?

>>51008424
>high tier comp meta
we'll see but it doesn't change enough to really shake up the knight/riptide spam

>mid tier armies
overall very solid, DG and AL rock these and even night lords does well enough against a lot of thise

>low tier armies
well bolters still completely kill dark eldar, orks and 'nids so nothing really has changed, you're still rocking 3+ armour and ap5


interestingly enough even people new to the game can tell that death guard are fucking overpowered, +1 toughness and FnP is much better than anything else other legions get

>>51008430
>Own massive popular cash-cow model company with legion of undying fans
>Treat them like total shit and hire retards to write the rules

LOCK THEM UP

THROW AWAY THE KEY

>>51006261
Salamanders.
And I say this as a 30k and 40k player of that army.

>>51005377
Just email the dude, he just added all the Minotaurs stuff for me, because I asked him nicely and provided the sources.
I am sure he can add Tyberous

>>51008609
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzWFNOZSjC0

As always, Duncan's got you covered.

>>51007102
>different scaled models
>not a repackaging of pre-existing hellions and reavers

care to elaborate?

>>51007935
I like it Guardbro. How'd you do the pattern? It looks pretty sexy.
I might have to steal it and use it on some of my Russes.

>>51006476
>chapter
>Gives legion

Get out

>>51006463
What's the mystery for the next issue?

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>>51008601
Pic is left side of Deployment, it's my first go at game pics so sorry it's a bit shit. Warning: Grey/primed models.

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>>51007259
>>51007609 Here
I was making a list I wanted to try out, and this is probably the next one I'm going to use.

I go back and forth a lot on 3 Meltas or 2 Meltas and a Heavy Flamer for my Vets. I make all rounder lists and use it regardless of who I'm facing, so I sort of like the flexibility of having the Heavy Flamer. Often times I feel like the 3rd Melta goes wasted only shooting 2 out of the top hatch most of the game, but other times I'm forced out of the transport and I wish I had the 3rd Melta.

>>51007984
This anon inspired me to give Lascannon Armored Sentinels a go again.

>>51008225
Well that one Company Command Squad order gives you ignore cover which I would abuse the fuck out of. Use your blobs to absorb enemy charges and tie down those jet bikes. I'd also get an Officer of the Fleet just to stop some of those deepstriking units from arriving.

>>51007935

the rust effects look great, anon. I wasn't sold on the yellow stripes the first time you posted this, but with the weathering added it looks really good.

>>51008376
Why is Steel Host better?

>>51005319
Helbrecht and Grimaldus are going to be really hard to both take at 1000 if you really want to max out bodies. At that point they're about a third of your list in points

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>>51008699
Right side.
Not shown: Two Heldrakes and a Chaos Terminator squad inc. (War)Lord.

Dunecrawler is in bits since It was slightly broken in transit and now I need some magnets to fix it :(

Shitty paint jobs are down to me being damn new at this.

>>51008750
You get Hydras as some small counter-measure against flyers which are the bane of your tanks and Preferred Enemy is much better than +1BS as you will be firing blasts most of the time so the BS doesnt matter and since you'll be wounding on 2s most of the time then PE not only boosts your accuracy for your non-blast Russes but also gives them re-rolling to wound.

>>51007456
>13min
JUST

I'm actually kind of starting to like the Tau. They're hopelessly outclassed in every way for the threats of the galaxy, but they're exploring it anyways,. It's kind of plucky.

>>51008225
this is all very sound advice
>>51008728
i'dd also consider getting a wyvren
your missile launcher heavy weapons teams really aren't worth the price they cost pointwise

>>51007179
Leafblower lists disagree

Is it just me or do threads that always include lots of discussion around Imperial Guard tend to be more quality and bro-tier?

>>51008768
Add more terrain, thats the most barren and boring looking table I've seen in a while. With no terrain its just two armies moving to the middle to duke it out as opposed to maneuvering through terrain, trying to stay hidden from incoming fire while trying to capture the objectives.

Terrain is your friend, use it.

>>51008859
More Imperial Guard discussion means less about Space Marines. Think about it.

>>51008827
>hopelessly outclassed
Nice b8. That's old fluff m8

New fluff, courtesy of Warzone Koi Fish and Warzone: Monkey have brought them up to par with the rest of the armies as a real threat.

>>51008859
I think the reason they tend to be good is because there's not a lot of ill-will towards the Guard. The players are usually not cancerous, the army itself isn't laughably weak, nor is it cheesy or overpowered, and most Guard players are happy to see other Guard players. It's basically unobtrusive discussion with minimal reason for people to shitpost about it. The only stuff I see people say about the Guard negatively are that they aren't that strong competitively and that they think humans are boring.

>>51008712

Here's my two cents:

I'm assuming you are going to bury Yarrick in the 30-man platoon and use his orders, and likewise the priest in the conscripts to make them a fearless tarpit. That's good.

You don't need a priest for the squad Yarrick is in - the hymns are nice, but with only 30 instead of 50 guys you might be better off spending them elsewhere. It's not a bad choice, but not the best, either unless you have 50 guys to get the bonus out of, and unless you don't already have a guy like Yarrick there to keep them from running anyway.

I would keep the 2 melta 1 hvy flamer loadout for your vets for the reasons you stated. When I run meltavets I am rarely ever out of the chimera, so a third one is wasted 4 times out of 5. Keep the flamer for that odd occassion you need a template or drop the third weapon entirely.

The LRBT is not a good tank. I know people say it is, but it's not. The battle cannon just is not a reliable enough weapon to put out good damage, it doesn't ignore cover, and it's trash against vehicles in an edition where almost everything has 3 HP. It used to be good at everything, now it's good at nothing.

The plasmacutioner got nerfed with the FAQ, and is now an overload machine. It does amazing damage, even against things in cover, but it half kills itself for your opponent almost every game. Not worth the huge points sink.

The exterminator is good. It can take out light vehicles well and put the pain on infantry.

I know you want to try lascannon sentinels, but they suck. Yes, the range is good with outflank, but even if you go with the armor 12 ones they go down fast and don't ever hit anything to boot. 3 BS 3 shots per turn is just not enough to be useful against AV 13+. Autocannon sentinels are better, since they can actually put out enough shots to take out AV10-12 well. Prescience can help you lascannon sentinels, but that's a prescience not spent on your infantry blobs, which is where it should be going.

>>51008897
How? They may be able to win a battle, but half the factions can toss enough bodies to collapse the Tau Homeworld into a black hole.