>"They have fortress-ships, m'lord! Floating

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>don't worry sir, we have just what it takes to care of them.

>>50993879
>Get my Sorcerer-Knights in here. I had heard them discussing a spell called "Heat Metal."

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>>50993879
>"Commence ASM fire on my mark, and cut out that phony ye olde english accent. Mark!"

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>>50993879
>So?

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>>50994000
>"It wast a spell my lord, it was a magical armor"

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>>50993879
>"What?! Fetch me my angry carriage!"

>>50994039
Sir Kaptin sir, who is this Mark that you hate so much? What did he do to you sir?

>>50993879

Those massive pagoda masts the Japs retrofitted into thier WWI era battleships in the 1930s were obsolete by the time WWII started. They served as spotlight and lookout platforms but radar fire control made them unnecessary giant targets.

You will note the Yamamoto did not have a pagoda mast nor did IJN Heavy cruisers.

>>50994223
It would be pretty strange for an admiral to come equipped with a pagoda mast.

>>50994092
They specifically called it a spell. Don't be such a Joker.

>>50994142
>When the war ends at 19:40 and it's already 19:46

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>tfw you think of all the effort it took to create battleship shells that missed and landed uselessly in the ocean

>>50994312
>b'aww why didn't more people die horribly?

>>50994312
>Implying they didn't kill deep sea abominations

>>50994329
>b'aww why doesn't every shot miss

The Grumman TBF Avenger "Jap raper" torpedo bomber will take care of you weebs.

My Grandpa was a gunners mate on the USS Portland for the whole war. Wouldn't eat spam, rice or canned peaches till the day he died and hated the Japs will a furry passion. He had an encyclopedic memory of naval facts and could ID just about any fighting ship between 1900 to present.

>>50994342
I mean... it seems much better to wish every shot would miss than every shot would hit.

Though I guess if every shot hit, nobody would be willing to go to war.

>>50994312
Well at peak production, a factory could churn out a shell every couple of minutes

The real waste was the sailors. It took on average 20 years and the love of a family to make those.

>>50994279
Did I Trigger [/spoiler[ you?

>>50994268

Yamato

>>50994368
> Japs will a furry passion

Nips might have been cunts but going full furry over them is still bit extreme.

>>50994312
>It costs over 400,000 dollars to fire this weapon for 12 seconds.

>>50994388
Of course not. I'm much too hardboiled for that.

>>50994398

I see the spelling Nazis are here to hang out with thier Axis Weeb buddies.

>>50994380
>20 years
Not if the feminists have anything to say about it. Handing out white feathers to the underage like the fucking scum of the earth they are.

And these are the so-called "good" feminists too.

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>>50994401
Try $1.41 million US per shot.

>>50994421
A real feminist would had been on the front fighting and killing huns like men she claimed to be equal to.

>>50994329
>Waste a bunch of money firing on and missing someone trying to kill you.
>They kill the shit out of your soldiers and you have to expend more resources to buy more shitty inaccurate weapons.
>The war continues on for longer because you cannot quickly and cleanly end it.

Seems like you're the only one here who wants more people dead.

>>50994039
I spent half my time in the US navy being told to quit the accent when I actually just have a really strong English accent because I'm really from England. I also operated VLS.

This post was made for me.

>>50994482
>in the future, armies will be 20% drones

>then 50%

>then 100%

>finally, countries no longer waste resources on drones and instead battles take place entirely in cyberspace

>thus necessitating true man-machine interlinks

this is why I love threads like these, they give the best ideas.

>>50994451
Nope, a real egalitarian would.
A real feminist would do exactly what they've been doing for the past 100 years: whine about imaginary offenses against their gender.

>>50994380
Hate to break it to you, but the Navy has always considered those sailors expendable assets. Still do sadly. Its like they take pride in being the most backwards branch.

So glad I didn't join the navy.

>>50994552
That doesn't make it any less of a waste.

>>50994552
Civvy here, why would the navy consider their men more expendable than the army? Being a total fucking moron who doesn't know how the real world works I thought that in terms of military branches it went airforce > navy ( > marines) > army in terms of disposability.

Isn't the army composed of pretty much anyone who can hold a gun while sailors are expected to be more educated because they work with fine and complex machinery? That's what I thought at least, so what's the logic about sailors being seen as more expendable?

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>>50994368
Yeah, he must've REALLY hated the Japanese

>>50994545
Interestingly enough, with so much of our vital infrastructure controlled almost exclusively by computers cyber-warfare may be the most deadly yet, with a "victory" resulting in the crippling infrastructure collapse of the losing nation.

>>50994209
Here is a tip for you.

A Sir sandwich is about as disrespectful as you can get in the military. They drill that shit out of you and you would have to make a concentrated effort to piss use it for the sole purpose to piss off an officer.

>>50994652

This isn't WWI m8. Everyone isn't an infantryman. I fix computer networks. Don't do a lot of traditional soldiering.

>>50994689
That's a problem though, since quite a bit of information could be lost or cut off from the net, even if it has nothing to do with the country it is stored in.

>>50994728
That's really not true in the navy, particularly if you're making some kind of formal report to a senior officer in your command which has an established format and demands a high level of formality.

Tone and context are obviously always relevant.

>>50994545
>back to basics when some guy unplugs himself, walks over to the guy in the tank opposite him and slaps him in the balls with a cable.

>>50994660
Is there ever a punchline in this comic that isn't "lol, dicks/tits!"

> m'lord
> definitely on the right board

>>50994734
That sounds like a problem, did no one read starship troopers?
Fun fact, the Roman legions were innovative in that while most armies of the times had 'trains' of civilians following the armies to carry supplies and do things other than fighting, the Romans had each legionnaire carry their own supplies and learn to do those duties instead, this combined with their combat engineering made them a force to be reckoned with.

>>50995779
The fountain of doubt I believe it was called

>>50993879
They're sailing through Kraken waters. Do they not know why nobody goes there?

>>50997605
Starship troopers is uninformed scifi schlock, Rome was two thousand years ago. Your post is silly.

>>50998105
Cutting down on logistics is never silly.

>>50994388
I've killed people over better formatting.

>>50997711
Are you sure?

>>50994329
>the enemy
>"people"

>>50994370
Missed shots may cause collateral damage and don't accomplish the mission, requiring more shots that may also miss, causing more collateral damage.

Even in a situation where collateral damage is unlikely, such as open ocean an inaccurate shot may cause casualties in a ships crew without actually causing damage that disables the ship, again requiring more shots which cause more casualties.

The "good" outcome in any kind of engagement is a quick and decisive one that doesn't require a massive expenditure of munitions, the more bombs you have to throw around to accomplish a goal the more people die.

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>>50994420

>>51000237
"that" in the second sentence be omitted and the sentence is still valid, right?

>>50994421
You seem confused, that's patriotism

>>51000774
Patriotism is when you sacrifice something for your country, not when someone else does it.

>>51000774
It's is not patriotic to accuse literal children of being cowards for not defrauding their own military so they can illegally go and fight in one of the bloodiest wars ever, it's absolute lunacy.

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>>50993879
>Be garrison commander of fort overlooking coastal town
>See giant, metal ships on the horizon
>"What kind of ironclad ship is that? Why's there no exposed wood, sails, oars, crewmen, or infantry on the deck?"
>You blast away with your fort's bombards
>Your cannonballs do absolutely jackshit to the ironclad's armour
>You lose more trained artillerymen to your own cannons than the actual ironclad they were shooting at
>The ironcland hasn't returned fire at all
>The local Count's screeching angrily in your ear, utterly failing to comprehend what kind of foe we're up against
>Praise the gods that the sounds of bombards and your own men dying are drowning out your lord's petty rage
>Send a rider to the nearest other military garrison, hoping that the garrison commander doesn't hate you enough to refuse parcelling out his precious battlemage company
>A day later, the battlemages finally arrive
>We'llGetEmThisTime.png
>Battlemages barrage the ironclad with explosive spells
>Not even large-scale group magic is working
>They keeping hammering away at the ironclad until half of the wizards collapse from mana depletion
>A few even die from this, most likely geting you into deep shit with The King later
>The ironclad's hull is barely even dented
>So much for the fabled wizards your Kingdom's so proud of
>The ironclad's weird, crewless cannons start firing en-masse
>The fort and the coastal town are now getting shredded (literally) by EVEN BIGGER explosions, each individually bigger than any blast the mages created themselves
>Hug your knees and cry knowing that the King's punishment for your fuck-up will be magnitudes worse than this destruction
>Fml

>>51001382
Nice

>>51001382
>Battlemages barrage the ironclad with explosive spells
>Not summoning a freezing storm and entrapping the ship in a glacier, killing the crew within by a combination of asphyxiation and hypothermia
This is why you need specialists to handle naval threats

>>50994039

The hilarious thing is that modern ASMs lack the penetration capability of battleship guns, being optimized to take out modern ships which are practically unarmored.

Hitting a battleship with anything in the modern arsenal other than a torpedo, nuke, or bunkerbuster would be an act of futility.

>>50994411
More like halfboiled, am I righto?

>>51004516
battleships are so cool

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>>50994000
>>50994092
>>50994279
>>50994388
>>50994411
>>51004581
>Fist post ends with OOO
>They go with W jokes
This shit really drives me mad

>>51004516
Problem is that it take 2 years to bulid a battleship while only 2 weeks to outfit ships with bunkerbusters. So by the time the battleship is bulit, it is mostly useless.

>>51000829

Haven't you heard anon? Women are the real victims of war! They sacrifice their fathers, brothers, husbands, sons...

>>51004312

Someone forgets even battleships can top 30 knots, fast as a galloping horse. It doesn't even have to be in line of sight to flatten the fort once the location is known.

>>51004648
You are so uninformed it is hilarious. Bunkerbusters are plane-dropped bombs, numbnuts. Oh, and you can also put modern AA missiles, CIWs and RAM-launchers on the battleship in the same timeframe you're putting these mythical ship-launched bunkerbusters on your cruiser or destroyer.

The only ship-based bunker busting weapon to date have been large naval cannon, which were on....?

>>51004516
they don't armor modern ships because 2000 lbs of explosives delivered at mach 3 will do more damage then any armoring scheme can reasonably hope to block, and that's before shaped charges and explosively formed penetrators come into play. And they will, within weeks of someone dumb enough to announce the resurrection of the battleship concept

>>51000273
Good job, strunk would be proud of you.

>>51004692
Well that's as much a problem with the original premise as anything. But it wouldn't be any fun for the ship to be firing form over the horizon.

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>>51004516
They're not designed to take out battleships, that doesn't mean they can't - go ask /k/, if you like.
I like them and all, but battlehips will die to modern weaponry - not all of it, some of the small stuff, as you say, would be worthless, but super- and hypersonic missiles are bad news, and even the smaller missiles are more accurate versions of small bombs that were used in WWII against battleships

You'd be totally right if talking about a modern ship's guns though, even ones used for bombardment are tiny

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>>50993879
Send in the sappers!

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>>51001382
>>51004312
>Be Captain in charge of a battlemage company
>Your mages group up for large-scale magic and collectively cast EXPLOSION at the ironclad's hull
>Your forward observer reports a direct hit, but no visible damage has been dealt
>WhatKindofSorceryIsThis.png
>The garrison commander, who appears to love explosions as much as that wizard girl 'Megumin', wants us to try explosions again and again until it works
>Of course. Just because explosion magic is loud, flashy, and has good tactical results in field battles and sieges, non-wizards like him instinctively think it's the strongest kind of magic we have
>It isn't
>He's also oblivious to just how much of a toll it takes on us, so my NCOs work hard to convince him to allow us experts to try something else
>Confirm with the local fishermen, ship-owning merchants, and marine scholars that temporarily-freezing the ironclad and surrounding waters won't permanently fuck up the marine ecosystem or inconvenience their work i.e freezing up all sea lines of communications in the region for weeks (ice takes takes time to melt).
>Commence large-scale magic, this time to brew a freezing storm over the ironclad
>Slowly over time, your observers report that the surface water around the ironclad is beginning to freeze
>Parts of the ironclad itself are slowly being consumed in ice
>A few minutes later, the surface of the water should be frozen to the point that no oar could penetrate, and no strong wind would break out the ironclad
>JustAsPlanned.png
>Suddenly, the ironclad starts moving despite having no visible crewmen on the deck, no oars, and no sails
>WTF.png
>You're no naval battlemage or ship expert, but the iron hull shatters the developing ice with ease that shouldn't even be possible for a ship. >It must be magic-enhanced
>After just over a dozen minutes, the ironclad has moved well away from the area of effect for your large-scale freezing storm spell
To be continued

>>51004949
Even subsonic cruise missiles have impact velocities high enough that the weapon would penetrate the armor on a battleship. You don't even need armor piercing warheads.

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>>51005128
Fuck it, just get waterbenders, this took half a dozen of them five seconds

>>51005128
Cont.
>Through some unknown wizardry, the ironclad's escaped your clutches
>Not even the local tinkerers or shipbuilding guild can explain this
>Your mages are slowly regaining their mana
>You, your NCOs, and the garrison commander consider freezing the entire bay at once
>By doing that, the ice will have more time to develop and the ironclad (which didn't seem to be moving too fast when it escaped the freezing storm) won't be quick enough to escape
>However, the amount of mana required to pull that plan off means having to send for an entire batallion's worth of battlemages
>Deploying so many battlemages at once to a single front would also fill the entire Kingdom with fears that there's some apocalyptic-level threat going to kill them
>We all unanimously agree that a single ship isn't worth economically paralysing the whole town for a generation or two as well as destabilising the whole country with fierce rumours
>You advise the garrison commander to just send a customs officer from the port to tell the ironclad to fuck off
>If that doesn't work, attack it from all sides with boarding parties on small rowboats
>Surely its cannons aren't accurate enough to hit so many small, moving cannons at once
What other kinds of spells would just over a hundred low to mid-tier wizards use to disable/destroy a lone ship? What other tactics would regular Late Medieval soldiers resort to?

>>51005478
Teleportation? Scrying? Gathering the largest storm possible and shooting the biggest fucking thunderbolt at the big metal object?

>>51005478
Boil/drain the waters. Surely it's not a ship of the desert too.

>>51005393
That would involve having to get close to the ship. You'll have to expose your dudes to cannon fire or whatever defenses the crew have prepared to stop you from getting near. Quite possibly getting a lot of uncommon and valuable soldiers killed while trying to traverse a long stretch of open water isn't always a good idea.

There's also the real possibility that the captain is competent and cautious, making a point to stay as far away from your element-manipulating soldiers as possible while making use of the superior range of the ship guns.

If waterbenders try to use waves to capsize the vessel, unless said waterbenders are all master-tier surely just turning the bow towards the waves or good ballast control would be enough to counter it.

The crew of that Fire Nation vessel must have been very inexperienced or incompetent to not acknowledge the possibility of that predicament happening to them. Was the Southern Water Tribe the FN navy's first engagement against waterbenders?

>>51005615
>If waterbenders try to use waves to capsize the vessel, unless said waterbenders are all master-tier surely just turning the bow towards the waves or good ballast control would be enough to counter it.
>The crew of that Fire Nation vessel must have been very inexperienced or incompetent to not acknowledge the possibility of that predicament happening to them. Was the Southern Water Tribe the FN navy's first engagement against waterbenders?
You know the Avatar world has no guns, right? The only ranged weapons the ship has are its firebenders. And a flashback showed the ship being attacked by dozens of waterbenders. who could just turn the water to ice and lift the ship in the air.

>>51004624
Oh, it's you! Awesome, I'd like a large pepperoni and mushroom, and a medium with pepperoni, jalapenos, and pineapple.

>>51005537
Man, I remember a book from when I was a kid where a mortal wizard built a massive metal castle in faerieland (parallel world type), then later turned it into a land-ship when it was finally complete and started sailing it across faerieland, planning to crash it into a barrow (Sutton Hoo maybe) to collide the mortal world and faerieland and rule over the resulting mess.
Iirc the heroes made it 'sink' by undermining a field and luring the wizard to try and destroy a fake siege engine they built. Predictably, he did (arrogant motherfucker that he was) and the castle fell into the hole they'd dug.

>>51005228
It's not like the shells they were designed to go up against were slow or small - but being so much more accurate I think you'd have a chance. Still I'm not an expert.

>>51005478
Negotiation? Given how rarely warfare was about annihilation they'd probably try that.

Camouflage, misdirection and trickery for the wizards - raw power clearly isn't useful against the thing, and unless they can get in close and get the crew - while still keeping them able to operate the ship, because the wizards sure can't - direct mind magic would be unlikely to do much

>>50993879
>"They have fortress-ships, m'lord! Floating castles!"
BRING OUT THE TREBUCHET SHIPS!

>>50993879
And? so we ram into them like we always do

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>>51005537
>The idea of boiling the bay's water away pops up
>You then remember that the ship isn't on a small lake
>Evaporating the water around it would only result in more water from the surrounding ocean will just replacing it
>The heat might dissipate into the colder surrounding ocean faster than you can try to boil, meaning that the water might not reach the evaporation stage anyway
>Evaporating the bay might not be the most efficient way to make use of your mana
>>51005498
>After your mages are done chugging potions or replenishing their mana naturally, they're ready to try again
>You order another large-scale magic strike, this time in the form of a single, fuckhueg lightning strike
>>>51005478
>The ironclad looks like it's entirely made of metal
>This means you can electrocute everyone inside, if there even is a crew
>From the sky, a MASSIVE bolt of magic lightning hits the ironclad
>The thunder is loud. Very, very loud. Many ears are ruptured, but somehow the spectating artillerymen that weren't killed by their own backfiring cannons are unphased
>Unknown to you, the ship is fitted with conductors meant to earth lightning into the ocean
>Depending on the era and type of ship, perhaps some poorly-insulated electronic components may have been fried
>Your forward observer reports lot of dead fish popping up on the bay's surface
>You make a mental note to make the garrison commander explain this to the soon-to-be-impoverished townspeople, because the public image of mages like you isn't already controversial as it is
>Suddenly, the ship starts moving again as if it were deliberately mocking your unit's hard efforts to sink it
>VSign.png
I'll go think up a few scenarios for teleportation spells. There's a lot of ways they could work/fail

>>51005478
No, no, I've got it!

Cast a rusting spell on the ship itself! It can't mock you if it's reduced to useless red dust!

Or maybe summon a spirit of plague onto it so it'll kill the crew, who are obviously hiding behind the armor!

>>51005615
Waterbenders are fucking scary on the waves.
Competent ones can freeze water as they run
Decent ones can run on water
Good ones can propel themselves on water with mad agility
Excellent ones can keep up with a speedboat
Sneaky ones are already on the other side of your ship because they just went underwater

>>51005752
>It's not like the shells they were designed to go up against were slow or small - but being so much more accurate I think you'd have a chance. Still I'm not an expert.
Because ballistic trajectories naval artillery shells almost always had extremely poor angles of attack against belt armor except at very close ranges and had typical hit rates of 1-5%.

So it may seem like they were up against huge amounts of firepower, but realistically hits were infrequent and at poor angles to achieve penetration. If you look at cases where battleships were actually hit by plunging fire from very long ranges, air dropped bombs or unusual stuff like Frtiz-X guided bombs their armor was basically irrelevant and they were crippled or destroyed with very few actual hits.

The Fritz-X is interesting because the germans assumed you'd need an armor piercing bomb to penetrate battleship armor and in the cases where it struck warships it almost always dramatically over penetrated, in the case of the battleship Roma penetrating its deck armor, all of the levels of the ship, all of the equipment in its path and the double-bottom hull and exploded underneath the ship. An actual armor piercing design turns out to be overkill even against the most heavily armored naval targets.

If you could protect a ship from cruise missiles with the armor of a battleship US aircraft carriers would have battleship armor, since cruise missiles are the primary threat the US Navy worked to counter for the entire cold war.

>>50998146
Ancient logistics and modern logistics are two very different beastss, and it baffles me that I have to point that out to you.

>>51005752
>Be negotiator sent by the garrison commander, who at this point has given up all hope along with the Mage captain
>You don't know what country this ship comes from, so half the boat is filled with contracted foreigners rounded up from the local merchant and adventuring guilds
>That ironclad is a thing sent by the gods. It laughs in the face of the arcane might of your nation's mages, and the technological wonders that are your cannons
>Your subordinates row your boat up to them, your aide holding up a white flag
>Tall men in strange clothes you've never seen before come out to meet you
>A few of them are pointing metallic-looking sticks at you. Are those guns?
>You speak up for a parley
>They're silent. The strange sailors exchange glances
>The most senior-looking authority figure speaks up
>Surprisingly enough, he at least SEEMS to vaguely understand your speech
>More surprising, he speaks your language too... Maybe?
>He talks in a very strange dialect you barely recognise.
"I can't understand your Ye Olde English! I wasn't dumb enough to major in English Language!"
>What's this 'English' speaks talks of? Is that what these weird men call our language?
>After some years of slowly coming to an understanding, the story turns into Space Battleship Yamato but in the middle ages

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>>51006436
>the story turns into Space Battleship Yamato but in the middle ages
For the benefit of those that haven't seen it? (yes, I know, I know, "go watch", but for right now)

>>51006522
Okay maybe that wasn't a good comparison. I haven't seen it either. What I presume will happen is:
>The negotiations are successful
>The ironclad peacefully docks at the port
>After a few months dedicated to learning each other's speech, the understanding is solidified
>The Mage captain and the Ironclad captain are quick to become friends
>Mages, university scholars, and tinkerers everywhere flock to The Ironclad as if it were a pilgrimage site
>The Ironclad captain and college/university-educated members of the crew are initially secretive about how the ship's modern technology
>The Garrison commander is initially salty due to the amount of artillerymen he lost (because of his dumb decision to not negotiate first), but quickly gets over it
>Eventually, The Ironclad Captain meets with the King and is bestowed a position and title just so the mysterious ironclad and absurdly-advanced quick-shooting guns of its crew don't end up destroying the Kingdom
>However, the medieval world isn't technologically/scientifically-advanced enough and lacks the developed industry needed to maintain the ship's parts
>Eventually, the ship helplessly rusts into useless scrap metal over the years from lack of maintenance
>What can be reasonably reverse-engineered by the Kingdom's best scientists, mages, and inventors, is looked at before the ship detoriates
>The electrical components and exact metallurgy of the ironclad are deemed impossible to practically replicate
>The more technically-literate of the crew helps
>After many years of R&D, the Kingdom develops breech-loaded firearms and artillery centuries before it would have done
>Each and every member of the Ironclad's crew lives comfortable lives either as newly-made nobles or gentry

>>51006730
Afterwards, The Kingdom enters various wars with neighbouring countries emboldened by its new quick-loading, rifled weapons
>Battlemages are eventually rendered obsolete by the vast leaps in military technology, or at least kept around for support roles
>Meanwhile, The Kingdom advances from the Early Renaissance to the Age of Enlightenment in almost half a century
>Several dozen years after the last of the Ironclad crew members die off, the Kingdom enters the Industrious and then Industrial revolution
>Through a mix of diplomacy and god-like military might, the Kingdom becomes a militarised superpower thanks to the centuries-worth of collective knowledge gathered from the Ironclad's most well-educated crew members

>>51006093
>Evaporating the bay might not be the most efficient way to make use of your mana

I don't know. Selectively evaporating water around chosen portion of the ship sounds like a decent way to to fuck up its course and make it list heavily, which would disable it as far as the battle goes.

Now, if you have that kind of accuracy, setting the magasines on fire is probably also an option.

>>50994734
WW1 wasn't the WW1 people think it was either, the level of coordination required to plan an artillery schedule, keep the infantry advancing right behind the artillery, and reinforce and resupply successful units, all without radio and in many cases not even working field telephones was incredible. In many cases they had reconnaissance flights to figure out where their own troops actually were, infantry would often only have runners and flares to indicate we are on our objective and would quite like some more grenades please.

>>50994398
watch your best mate get quarter in a POW camp. no the Japs deserve the hatred from back then from other soliders.

>>51005478
>What other tactics would regular Late Medieval soldiers resort to?

In a High Fantasy setting? maybe some hallucination / confusion spell, make the battleship crews see the other battleships as giant sea monsters, make them destroy each other and get popcorn for the show

>>50994433
>$1.41 million per shot.
>only manage to kill 1 or 3 goat fuckers per shot
>on opposing shit, an old rice cooker filled with nails managed to take out twice that number for less than 20 bucks per IED.

>>51006522

After visiting the New Jersey, I am ultra-hyper pissed about Operation Ten-Go. The Yamato would have been a fucking A-MA-ZING tourist attraction. The best.

They had a bunch of shells on display in the New Jersey. It's set up from smallest to largest, and you're made to think that the 16-inch Iowa shell is the largest...then you turn around and there's a mockup of a Yamato shell. It's incredible.

>>51006730

So 1632 but with magic and a battleship instead if a small New England town?

>>50994421
>>50994548
>>51004662
Go be retarded back in /pol/ you stupid faggot, /tg/ does not need your shitposting.

>>51012588
>The Japanese should have kept the Yamato as a hotel for the entire duration of the war.

What they should have done, is either put it in the middle of a large enough fleet, or not build it at all.

>>50994689

That would also make the aftermath of the war interesting.

The victor can now rebuild the other as they saw it fit. Make them depend on their economy etc.

>>51005478

When underwater volcanoes erupt, the water starts boiling a bit, the water loses its buoyancy as it loses density. Similar things happen when methane is released.

I propose the battlemages starts boiling the water under ship.

>>51012427

Americans should make peace with their nature.

Like the Israeli did. Look how willing they are to drop white phosphorus on schools.

>>51015687
This is the correct choice, and actually deploying the damned thing, there's no point having a superweapon ifyou aren't going to use it to your advantage.

>>51015687
They should have fired admiral yamamoto when he threatened to quit if they didn't carry out his pearl harbor attack, and made the Navy cooperate with the Army in China and India instead of going in different directions.

>>51012427
>what are rules of engagement
>what are requirements for some sort of standard of precision

anon please, if we're going to make comparisons, at least make it something like a few sticks of US-made c4 in a beer keg or something.

>>51018621
The Pacific would be even more of a curbstomp than it already was, the only way it could be even worse for the IJN is if the fleet in PH was deployed to meet the carrier group.

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>>51012588
As a bong, I'm pissed that we were too poor to save any battleship for preservation - seriously, pic related is the biggest WWII ship we managed to preserve.

Even the the Japanese have Mikasa - sure, a pre-dreadnought, but there's basically nothing of the Royal Navy from its height that got preserved, which is a damn shame

>>51018833
Quit complaining, you've got the oldest active ship in the world!

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>>51018833
Not even Warspite.

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>>51018873
Oldest in commission, not active - that'd by the USS Constitution - there's way, way too much concrete in her bottom for her to ever sail again without an enormous refit.

She does have a huge crew though, technically - everyone in the navy is assigned to a ship (most shore establishments are technically ships, for example HMNB Portsmouth is also HMS Nelson), but if you're in London at the MoD or somewhere else there isn't a "ship", you're assigned to the Victor.

>>51018935
Or any of the King Georges. It's not like they were scrapped immediately after the war either, we had a good decade or so

>>51012588
If she had been afloat after the war Yamato would probably had either been sent to the cutters or used as a crossroads test subject.

>>50993879

>ship
>ship
>shitty anime samurai catgirl on the prow.

Wow, way to shit on a nice work, artist.

>>51019224
>kancolle
>catgirl

>>50994545
But what happens when autonomous weapons systems get abandoned or left lying around, like the futuristic equivalent of landlines?

Just imagine, fucking Terminator fucks roaming the trees in shitty backwater proxy war countries, looking for "hostile" and shooting up villages.

>>51005752
Cower bay in mist.
Combine it with ilusions thus force them to land at full speed.
It ain't tonal magic guyz.

>>51001382
Why don't they just Teleport on board and start cloudkilling belowdecks?

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>>51019224
What a plebeian.

>>51019364
To be fair he is right about the girl being shitty.

Not that the boat in question was any better.

>>50998105

If only Bob Heinlein had had any experience in the military or in politics. Then he could have been as informed as a neckbeard who resets MS Outlook passwords and clears paper jams for the marketing dept.

>>51019436
He was in the navy.

>>51019363
Don't ships have NBC protection?

Also, would you want to teleport into the unknown bowels of an unknown ship? Seems like a hell of a risk

>>51019372
No bully Kongou
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRnclastqkA

>>51019578
Synchronize Meteor Swarms to clear the deck, then teleport to the surface and begin pouring Cloudkill inside and summoning crazy shit to prowl passages and butcher the crew. Then start reanimating sailors ASAP for the demoralizing factor versus the survivors.

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>>51019608
Old battlecruisers deserve to be bullied.

>>51019578
Why not just teleport parts of the ship? Say, teleport pieces of below-waterline hull into the engine.

>>50994552
Where I live navy as ships and shit is the best branch you can get into.
Our navy is shit and it's only potential enemy is Russian Baltic fleet.
So at start of the war we would fire our rocket into their port and they into ours.
Both fleets would sink we would not have any rockets have.
No rockets, no ships, means I don't have to do anything till war is over.

>>51019631
Because "low/mid level wizards" was specified.

And also because not every setting is D&D, but you knew that already.
What with how the preceding posts didn't refer to D&D.

And cloudkill is a big, visible cloud, so not that much of an issue for a ship with NBC filters and gasmasks (it is said to be the vapours that kill)

>>51015947

well what else are you going to do with it jeez

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Anyone else remember this setting?
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/21203058/

>>51019673
Cloudkill goes through the skin, gasmasks alone don't help.

That said, I'm thinking the winds would blow it away pretty fast either way.

>>50994728
>A Sir sandwich is about as disrespectful as you can get in the military.

Right, you have the whole "don't ask, don't tell" thing going on.

>>51018833
Hey, the Belfast! I slept in that ship years ago as part of a school trip!

>>51020132
Me too.

What year?

>>51019728
Reading this seems pretty cool. Not as cool as the original posters thought, but still.

>>51005698
They do have catapults that can fire bolts at a flying ox with almost pinpoint accuracy.

>>50994368
>furry
>passion

Two words I do not want to hear together on a /tg/ thread.

>>51020273
Oh, jeez, must have been...umm...2003 or something? If you went to Hornsea, you may be part of my lot.

Got now I feel old.

>>51018665
Its likely US wouldn't even have entered the war until much later anon. They tend to try to stay out of world wars unless someone convinces mexico to invade US (like in WW1)

Pacific war wasn't really a curbstomping, the allies took a shit ton of casualties against periphery units and conscripts, while achieving very little. taking out the IJN was probably their best achievement, mostly due to intelligence - breaking the Japanese codes. Island hopping only served to get their bombers in range of the Japanese mainland. No real strategic gain.

Meanwhile most of the IJA was in China. Soviet invasion of manchuria was what really broke the Japanese empires back. Only then did they finally concede defeat. Many Cities on the Japanese mainland had been reduced to ashes - namely tokyo (they didn't really care, or didn't quite know the full effect of hiroshima / nagasaki) and we all know that bombing a countries cities alone doesn't cause it to surrender.

If the Japanese had focused their efforts in Asia and India, and given back the territories that the US wanted in order to continue supplying oil (iirc it was dutch east indies or something - it was only one territory), they could have maintained an uneasy truce with the US, while still buying oil. That would make Japan into an Asian powerhouse, while the US stayed out of the war and profited from it, as it tries to do as long as possible in world wars, while the Japanese built up a massive and experienced force for any impending conflict with the US.

the US were green as fuck in the early years of the pacific campaign, meanwhile the Japanese army had been fighting in china since 1931.

Japan's main threat would be Russia, although without the US threatening from the east they could have attempted to force Russia to fight on two fronts and helped the Wehrmacht. They'd have to get over the shock of the Khalkhin Gol incident, which I'm sure they'd be able to do.
In 1942 a lot of people thought Russia fucked.

>>51019189

Well I'll be darned, King George V is beautiful from a front view.

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>>51020851
Nah, I was 2010. Was late in secondary school though

>>51021413
Damn right, it's a beautiful class