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I'm interested in hard science fiction settings. I've

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I'm interested in hard science fiction settings. I've had my fill of space operas and fantasy. I'd like to find a setting which takes scientifically credible projections of the future and deals with them in interesting ways. Can /tg/ recommend anything along those lines?
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>>50976596

Read Seveneves
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>>50976596
Gagarin did not actually say that, the phrase was attributed to him by soviet propaganda because it suited their agenda.
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>>50976788
Gagarin didn't ask for game recommendations? Good to know.
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>>50976596
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>>50976788
Why would soviet propaganda want him to ask about hard science fiction settings?
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It's hard to know what's hard sci-fi or not right now thanks to a lot of weird shit going on in scientific research.
>Gen 2 EmDrive supposedly has enough thrust per watt to create hovercars or reusable SSTO spacecraft
>we have enough antimatter to do spectroscopic analysis of antihydrogen... turns out it's the same color as regular hydrogen
>private manned spaceflight soon
I don't tend to go much harder than Star Trek because everything else tends to feel really outdated really quickly.
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>>50977596
Have a source on that "Gen 2 EmDrive" that you mentioned?
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>>50977596
I'm looking for something harder than Star Trek, to be honest. Something that's a little more moderate in its estimation of future possibilities. I recently started Red Mars and I'm enjoying it. Maybe something in that vein about 1000 years into the future.
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Look up Orion's Arm.
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>>50977772
Babylon 5, but only the humans and other minor political factions.
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>>50977826
Just looked it up. It seems very interesting.
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>>50977685
Got anymore homeworld stuff?
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>>50977905
Keep in mind that B5 is a little wonky with how it presents. Humans are an intergalactic power despite being latecomers to the galactic scene and suffering near extinction with all their extra-Solar colonies destroyed approximately 12 years before the start of the series.
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>>50977685
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/emdrive-roger-shawyer-patenting-new-design-next-gen-superconducting-thruster-1585982

http://emdrive.com/firstgenapplications.html
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>>50977080
That's pretty cool, where did this come from?
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>>50976596
>scientifically credible projections of the future
>scientific speculation
>scientific

Uhhh, by defnition there is no such thing, you pretentious dummy.
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>>50976596
Primer is a really cool hard scifi movie.
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>>50976596
But to answer your question: Blue Planet.

Too bad it's mostly set on one planet with no FTL travel. But that's what you wanted, isn't it?
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>>50976596
It's a little old now but forever war is good.
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>>50977596
>we have enough antimatter to do spectroscopic analysis of antihydrogen... turns out it's the same color as regular hydrogen

What's weird about that? It's exactly what the standard model predicted.
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>>50976596
Stand on Zanzibar by John Brunner (1968). Predicted political correctness, weed legalization, diversity quotas, Islamic terrorism in the West, predictive online markets, hacking, computer viruses, climate change, overpopulation and even a President Obama (Obomo). I kid you not, look it up.
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>>50979674
>computer viruses,
wasn't that in his shockwave rider?
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>>50979767
Yes, I'm conflating the two books here, but they're all of a piece if you read them in sequence including The Sheep Look Up.
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Transhuman Space. IIRC, it's a fairly hard sci-fi setting that has aged dramatically well compared to other sci-fi settings. The only thing it's gotten "wrong" is the setting's use of memes and memetic operations.
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>>50980000
>Memetic engineering
>The use of propaganda to produce large cultural or sub-cultural changes over a period of time via insertion of self-propagating ideas.
>Not the use of repeating digits (check'd BTW) to control reality in the name of an ancient Egyptian frog-god of chaos.
So unrealistic.
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>>50980000
quads for Kek victorious
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>>50980054
Imagine, if you had banknotes, much like you have now.
With serial numbers, much like you have now.
And the notes where the serial number ends with repeating digits would be worth more.
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>>50976596
All hail our massive space lord Gay Gary Ann!
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>>50980116
Why do Russians still keep their space program active?
They are sending Gagarin his pension.
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>>50976596
Orbital.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtHYIrIPmE

Its been revised to be a stand-alone system (used to require mongoose Traveller). Good balance of hard-ness and simplicity
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>>50979669
It might be what the standard model predicted but it's not at all intuitive to normies, thanks to decades of scifi showing 2spoopy special effects for antimatter instead of "don't touch that normal looking thing or we all die."
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>>50980054
>Egyptian frog-god of chaos.
>quads

Kek'd so hard by invoking His name.
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>>50980218
What, I'm going to run across a piece of anti-hydrogen while crossing the street now?
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>>50980275
Street no, galaxy maybe.
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>>50980211
Link/pdf?
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>>50977772
Star Trek is not hard science fiction, it's soft science fiction that pretends to be hard. Also, here's a recommendation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zosnCjiXKbU

My limit for what counts as hard science fiction is 2001: A Space Odyssey. If anything goes beyond that it's no longer hard science fiction and 2001 itself is already pushing it for me.
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>>50980621
Too bad that the main character (the girl) is so damn annoying and is badly written with her strange sense of right and wrong, if it wasn't for her I'd watch more episodes.
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>>50980775
It's a shame you stopped watching because the entire point about her character is that she doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about. Her sense of right and wrong is just her going into this new world with opinions that don't have any real experience behind them.
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>>50980814
And for the spoiler free version: She's not actually a poorly written character, she's just a well written character with HEAVY personal flaws.
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>>50980814
They still could have made her less annoying and "preachy" throughout the show. And then the show at times lets her weird ass morals triumph, like the episode with the space burial and how the old woman just suddenly changes her mind because of that girl ranting off about how "Oh it's wrong and you guys are horrible blah blah.". I think that the rest of the show is superb but her character is just not well written, they could have written a wide eyed youngster type character far better. As I said I think the rest of the show is great, but that one character always irritates me so much that by the time I'm done with a few episodes I can't stand to see anymore of her.
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>>50978160
I assume the huge recovery is due to Vorlon involvement to get them puppets for the next war and/or aggressive use of the Psi Corps.

And humans aren't exactly a major power, considering the power levels at the start of the series are Vorlons>GIANT FUCKING POWER GAP>Minbari>big power gap>Centauri/Narn>Humans>all the minor races.
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>>50978893
>reworded Shawyer press release
>Shawyer's own web site

Into the trash it goes
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>>50976788
do you mean the boga nyet business?
of course he didn't say that, how fucking corny and m'lady would you have to be to say that in fucking space?
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>>50980350
I only have the old version that requires mongoose traveller. Its in the PDF share threads
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>>50978160

Earth Alliance isn't a major power because of its current military might, they wouldn't stand a chance against someone like the Centauri.

They're a major power because they won a war against the Minbari, who are considered invincible. People take notice of that. Think of it like Japan becoming a Great Power after trouncing Russia in the east.
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Blindsight by Peter Watts is probably the hardest and scariest first contact story ever written. It's on his website because his publishers are dicks.

http://www.rifters.com/real/Blindsight.htm

As for tabletop systems, the anon who recommended Transhuman Space is on the right track. Eclipse Phase is similar, but while it's built on a fairly hard base (no FTL, no artificial gravity, projections based on existing theories and technological trends) the science gets really soft around the edges with the genetic engineering and brain uploading.

If you're familiar with FATE, there's another good game called Diaspora that's a little unique in that it encourages the players to build the setting together. But the tech is fairly hard -- spaceships arranged like tower blocks that simulate gravity through thrust, FTL achieved only through stabilised two-way wormholes, etc. The fact that the rulebook has tables on reaction mass ratios and orbital periods for player and GM use was a good sign in my books.
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>>50976596
read "The cycle of Xeelee" by stephen Baxter
Basically very hard sci-fi, where mankind gets ludicrously powerful tech, meet aliens, and expands.
Story not perfect, but the lore is pretty gud. Also, the author really knows his shit. Expect much astrophysics.
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>>50982374
>very hard sci-fi
>mankind gets ludicrously powerful tech, meet aliens, and expands
very hard sci-fi would be something like His Masters Voice by Stanisław Lem
AKA there is possibly a first contact but noone can decipher it's meaning and the whole thing is mostly scientists arguing with no clear conclusion
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>>50976596
Holy fuck. I have seen the vatnik shop so many times that my mind told me this one was shopped.

Fucking /int/.
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