Pathfinder General - /pfg/

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This is awful, we should've used this picture instead!

FIRST for usefull items every level 10 character should have!

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>>50928977

Yes.

>>50929027
CHRISTMAS WAS FOUR DAYS AGO

>>50929057
That doesn't stop it from being a joyous time of year!

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>>50929027
None of those characters look like a Witch.

>>50929041
There's a difference between wearing metal, and holding it in your hands.

>>50929002

What is this picture of and where is it from?

>>50929030
>FIRST
You tried.

Also, a stat-boosting belt or headband depending on class.

>>50929027
REMOVE CATS REMOVE C@S

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>>50928989

Aren't witch patrons unknowable magical forces so bizarre that everything the witch does ultimately benefits them, regardless of what it is?

>>50929027

Unrelated to that, what in God's name is that thing in the lower left?

>Invited to a new group because I know one pf the players
>3rd level
>Some effect forces is to roll acrobatics vs DC 10
>GM gets hyper salty because I don't roll coz I have 9 on acrobatics
>Increasingly gets more salty when I take 10 and also pass every DC 15 y most stuff like climbong, swimming, etc
>Ragequits
>Ask if that was his first time GMing or playing 3.PF
>Players tell me no, that he jas been GMing and playing for 7 years this game
>Ask if that ever happened
>They also tell me no
Fucking how??!

>>50928989

Typically patrons should pepper a witch's personality, not as severely as a Warlock or Avowed of course, but a Strength-oriented Witch should always have an urge to pick things up and put them down.

>>50929111
>Unrelated to that, what in God's name is that thing in the lower left?

Obviously a baby owlbear

>>50929111

Why is that Fennec fox so fluffy? I thought their coats weren't nearly that poof.

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Continue to ask Dragon DM anything.

I've got descriptions of The Demesne (The home base for you guys) and your liege lady, Queen Lua Culbranth in the character discussion thread on the listing.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65144/of-dragons-and-yet-more-dragons

Can someone give me the lowdown on what an Avowed gets out of Charisma? I'm tempted to use one as part of my gestalt, but the other side expects Intelligence.

>>50929148

Tell us about the other major NPCs besides our Den Mother!

>>50929150
Isn't Charisma their primary stat? It's tied to their DCs, I think.

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>>50929089
Carnival Phantasm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQnkEqyyMbk

I hope you have the afternoon off.

>>50929111
They can be, but not even the gods are omniscient. Sometimes, if a witch or warlock is in the right place at the right time, their patron will have to be direct to further its goals.

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>>50929136

They tend to look a little puffier when they're young.

>>50929148
Roll HP?

>>50929166

Fight Master Glacius: The Unofficial Captain of the guard of The Demesne. A patient though stern teacher in all things martial. Likens war and combat to poetry and communication. Enjoys mountain climbing.

Xealnuleath: The queen's Eldest daughter (That hasn't left the roost yet.) She's a Crystal dragon who fancys herself a patron of the arts. She cycles through art mediums like a person changes clothes. and she's equally bad at all of them herself. But she's got good taste.

>>50929249
Full HP at level 1, every subsequent level roll for hp. take the result if its greater than half. If less than half, take half.

>>50929208

So it's only used for DCs? Doesn't sound too bad to ignore!

>>50929288
Alrighty then.

>>50929111
>Aren't witch patrons unknowable magical forces so bizarre that everything the witch does ultimately benefits them, regardless of what it is?
Witch Patron are left incredibly vague on purpose. They can be whatever the heck you want them to be.

>>50929288
Would...would it be kosher to have dragonhide armor? Seems like that might be a bit taboo..

>>50929421

One, Dragons occationally shed. two, a dead dragon doesnt need his skin.

>>50929288

Is Xealnuleath a cute?

>>50929463
She's a dragon equivalent of a thirty year old in there mom's basement with an art degree.

Of course shes' cute.

>>50929208
>>50929150
All the DCs are based on it. Certain bonuses as well; a self-avowed has a "divine grace" analogue that functions on it.

Check carefully what you're using and/or not using; some builds can get away with ignoring it or keeping it at 12 or so, others will need to max it out.

>>50929493

Sounds like mom needs to marry her off to someone who will let her live in their basement!

>>50929421
Back in 2e the metallics often gave their previous growth's layer to make armor with; basically a sign of high honor or affection.

You'd expect your kids to maybe have a suit for their human form, your lover either has a suit OR one from some even older dragon you killed together, you might present enough for a shield to a worthy hero that comes by, and so on.

From the dragon's point of view, you're basically giving them your dandruff so it's no big loss to you - but you DO know how valuable it is.

Do magic item weights go down if you're smaller?

Like say you're uh, tiny. And you put on a robe that would be four pounds if it were medium.

Is it still four pounds?

I can handle it, I'm just curious.

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Hold on, I've been gone for a few days playing FFXV, what's all this talk about Dragons and Dragon characters?

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Need a fresh view for pirate campaign.
Sky Ocean or Underground Sea?
Oiled steel&Heated Diesel or Sails with fistful of Wind?

>>50929610
Isn't there a sea in the Darklands right under the Inner Sea?

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>>50929610
>Sky Ocean or Underground Sea?
Neither, Cosmic.

Ships that forms flexible aether bubbles that follow the flow of Aetherial Currents of cosmic life energy

Ports stationed in fixed points in time and space by anchoring themselves to points of cosmic stability

Colonies built atop floats of cosmic floatsam and jetsam

Storms of altered reality, carrying with them newly formed abberant monsters that attack ships

Entire ecosystems of creatures feeding off of cosmic energy and eachother

a small pocket dimension of infinite basements filled with infinite rats

that kind of stuff

>>50929610
Subs in an ocean of clouds

Both. Ships tend to sail to save power and may only have small emergency engines with a light fuel load, but subs only deploy the things as they surface for battle

>>50929288
Also If you guys have any suggestions for the game, feel free to voice them.

>>50929148
>game about dragons and for latent weadragon
>not lewd
Why so dissonantly?

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>>50929693
Fuck yes.

>>50929712
Das Boot Planet?

>>50929690
Yep. Sightless Sea. Located in the Orv Vault if i not mistaken.

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>>50929693
The ships need arms that wield magic weapons.

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Okay, so let me get this straight.

Avowed gives you Clauses, and most of these Clauses grant you 24 hour bonuses... But doesn't that mean those bonuses can be constantly renewed and are basically "inherent" bonuses?

Like, take Silver Tongue; for 24 hours you get a +6 bonus to Diplomacy, Bluff and Intimidate. What will stop me from having a +6 bonus to those stats all the ding dong time?

>>50929833

A L L D A Y
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>>50929833
They can be turned off by outside interference.

>>50929833
Nothing.
You're using a class ability to get a skill bonus. Of course it better be worth something.

>>50929582

Direct your attention to yonder post. >>50929148

just dont get too excited, DM said no boinking.

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>>50929853
>>50929851
>>50929842

>mfw

A-Are there any Shapes that work with melee weapons? Aether Rounds is explicitly used for ranged weapons after all!

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>>50929582
one of the character-discussion pile seems to be suzu-chan

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>>50929111
That's a paisa!

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>>50929148
>Text Only
Son of a tit! I curse the fact I am a slow typist

>>50929882
Well, there's Aether Blade.

>>50929882
Aether Channel!

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What are some good options for "taunt"? That is, how do tanks ensure that enemies are hitting them and not the squishy wizard?

>>50929922
A different game system.

>>50929922
>tanks
That's not how Pathfinder works.

>>50929922
>>50929933
>>50929944

Knight's Calling, Paladin spell.

>>50929922
The Log Horizon RPG maybe

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>>50929922
It doesn't really exist in PF.

Enemies are allowed to be intelligent, and the intelligent thing to do is to always kill the mage first.

Things that might come close are the Cavalier's Challenge, depending on the Order, and a Warder's Armiger's Mark.

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/cavalier
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/classes/warder

There might have been a feat that forces an enemy to attack the user if he fails a will save, but I forgot what it's called.

>>50929922
Warder. Antagonize feat maybe.

>>50929962
Will negates on a level 1 paladin spell. There's no way that would ever succeed.

>>50929030
The Big 5:
>+X Armor
>+X Weapon
>+X Cloak of Resistance
>+X Stat Belt
>+X Stat Headband

Another big names:
>Handy Haversack
>+X Ring of Deflection
>+X Amulet of Nat Armor

From here is diverges. These are the main heavy hitting quality of life items. If we wanted to go pure comfort we'd then go to stuff like Marvelous Pigment, Anytools, and more. If you're melee different things matter than if you're a control caster.

>>50929111
>Aren't witch patrons unknowable magical forces so bizarre that everything the witch does ultimately benefits them, regardless of what it is?
I've had games where they are. I've had games where they're gods moonlighting at patrons. I've had games where they were literally the word itself carved into the sky that screamed at witches what to do.

>>50929922

Armiger's Mark, a Warder ability!

As for first party... You're gonna have to be big and scary! Big and scary!

>>50929922
Get a Wizard or Bard, and have them use Enchantment Magic to convince the enemy to attack the "tank"
Though this falls apart at higher levels as tanking becomes less viable due to the enemy rocket tag
Also, said caster by that point should have better things to do than Aggro management for you

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>>50929148

>Yfw, both of the full dragons that have concepts right now are forever tiny feykin dragons.

This is the exact opposite of what i expected. Not exactly unwelcome, but unexpected.

>>50929117
He's horrified someone invested in Swimming/Climbing/Acrobatics/Ride (I always put 1 point in each).

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>>50930008

>They were literally the word itself carved into the sky that screamed at witches what to do

How did that go?

>>50930031
I'm planning on a Green Dragon Exemplar/Wizard. So we have one full dragon on the crew.

>>50930046
Witches could never stealth in case one past over and began yelling at them. The words were not very intelligent.

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Second time DM here looking for some insight.

For context, everyone in my group is as new to the game as I am (it was our first time playing). The first campaign I ran was Falcon's Last Hope, and while my players enjoyed it, they complained that there wasn't a lot of roleplaying going on and that there was a little too much combat, which I agree with. I think that was caused by a few different things, but mostly I think it just came down to the fact that it was a pre-built campaign and everyone was inexperienced.

So, for my next campaign I'm looking to put something together myself. I'd like to have /some/ combat, but I would like the main focus to be on story and roleplaying. Over time I'd like for it to evolve into a deeper story, but for the sake of the players (and myself) I'd like to start with something small and simple, yet still engaging. Do you guys have any suggestions as to how I could go about that? What sort of campaigns did you have success with when you were still new to the game?

Another thing I'm struggling with, one of my players is a neutral evil Oracle and another is a lawful good Paladin. They're already starting to butt heads and it's already getting old. I want to let them play what they want but at the same time their characters really have no reason to be adventuring together. They argue over any decision where morality comes into play and at this point I feel like it's really just wasting everyone's time. Any ideas on how I can deal with this without just straight up telling one of them to make a new character?

Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.

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>>50930031

I just want to make an Ornstein, but apparently human-sized PCs might find themselves in a bit of a pickle with this campaign!

>>50930119

The wont, don't worry.

>>50929208
>>50929501

Friendly reminder that the Embodiment of Aether feat, introduced in the Avowed playtest, lets you replace Charisma with Strength as the Avowed's primary stat!

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>>50929922
Hide the mage behind the fighter

>>50930186
>put the mage behind the fighter
And hope he has enough goddamn courtesy to give him a reach-around.

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>>50930119
>>50930031

Even for the big ones one tends to start 'small' at the lowest levels. The draconic exemplars at least are one level from their first growth phase (most would become medium at 4).

>>50930047
Maybe the two feykin-scale will be the attack bits to your mothership?

>>50930170
What, has it changed? Is a new playtest out since 6?

Because until then it ONLY affects DCs.

>>50930019
So how do I not die immediately in a game of rocket tag. What can I do to neutralize incoming attacks? Isn't there something like Evasion but for Will saves, by the way?

>>50930251
1) in order: Kill them before they get their turn, use initiator counters, die like a bitch

2) Stalwart

Is it impossible for the feykin dragons to ever learn the overland flight gift?

How do they get their speed to keep up with the rest then?

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>>50930095
>Do you guys have any suggestions as to how I could go about that?
Build your campaign around the player characters. Let everyone co-ordinate their characters so they're friends, colleagues, or otherwise comfortable travelling and working together. Talk to them about what they want out of the campaign, what kinds of themes or tone they want to experience. Have them encounter a mystery, threat, or adventure that directly relates to what they care about and their personal goals. Make that adventure be connected to something greater, an evil scheme or terrible force that threatens not just the PCs, but people and places they care about. Have important people from your character's backstory make guest appearances, and have former friends and rivals either help the party or join the forces of evil. Don't make the characters The Chosen Ones, but have them be invested in what's going on.

>Any ideas on how I can deal with this without just straight up telling one of them to make a new character?
First, remind the Paladin that Lawful Good does not mean Evangelical Asshole. He practices altruism and follows the spirit of the law and justice, but that does not mean he should judge others who follow different paths. He should oppose any who commit evil acts but being selfish is not in itself a crime. Moreover he should be able to put aside his personal gripes so he can work with his team-mate. They're both on the same side, infighting just helps their enemies.

Second, remind the Oracle that Neutral Evil does not mean Puppy-Kicking Serial Killer. He puts his own needs and those of his closest friend above anyone else, but that does not mean that he should run around being an asshole. Some of the best Evil characters are those who are friendly and respectful, all the while amassing wealth, power, and status. Encourage him to 'play the long game' and maybe throw some subplots his way so he can do vaguely nefarious things that don't ruin your adventure.

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>>50930429
>How do they get their speed to keep up with the rest then?

I'm going to ride one of the big ones!

>>50930484
How will you do battle? Dragons are crazy fast.

>>50930251
>So how do I not die immediately in a game of rocket tag.
By having high Initiative and killing them first

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I made an NPC Wyrmwitch for use in an upcoming game as a potential love interest.

She used to be powerful, then some psions destroyed her treasure hoard and trapped her in crystal. Since then, her home was destroyed and everyone she knows is dead.

She's kind of broken. Feel free to use her in your games.

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>>50930604

I'll take feats that let me ride a dragon buddy and do battle upon him or her, silly!

And if not, there's always imbuing myself with even more speed.

Or increasing my reach to stupid levels so every flyby is as many hits on them as I can as they pass.

I know OD/ZS Warder gets memed about a ton here, but what are some good OD options for blessings/inquisitions that make them so powerful? There's a ton of them to page through and at first glance most seem pretty shit.

>>50930614
>>50930251
>Isn't there something like Evasion but for Will saves, by the way?
It is called Stalwart, an Inquisitor class features. Some other archetypes also get it.

>So how do I not die immediately in a game of rocket tag.
PoW counters make you effectively immune to rocket tag. However, the issue is in round 1 you don't have an immediate action to take until you act.

>What can I do to neutralize incoming attacks?
Attacks of Opportunity can still be done before you take an action in combat at long as you have Uncanny Dodge. Cut/Smash from the air then makes you immune to ranged attacks, siege weapons, and spells that rely on attack rolls.

Another way to do it is just put your saves out of spell's reach. This is difficult but entirely possible to do.

>>50930676
>take feats that let me ride a dragon buddy
You mean Stretched Hole feat?

>>50930693
>Another way to do it is just put your saves out of spell's reach. This is difficult but entirely possible to do.

To expand on this some no save and die spells exist. So your saves won't matter if the enemy uses mindscape on you.

However any GM who uses these spells on players, or players who use these spells, should be shot.

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>>50930065

That's actually kind of funny.

>>50930095

Sounds like you hit one of the classic hurdles, anon-teammates who won't be a team. A little conflict can make for some nice roleplaying, but if they're constantly grinding things to a halt, you should talk to them about it. Ideally, this would have been headed off at character creation or during the initial session, but if they don't have any reason to cooperate with each other, then you and they need to start thinking of one.

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>>50929916

Is there any reason I would consistently use Aether Channel to imbue my spear with elemental might, when I'm already a ZweiSent and can use Strikes?

I love love *love* the fluff on Aether Channel, but isn't that going to eat into my action economy if I have to decide between one strike at +2d8, or a strike *and* whatever bonuses that ability has?

Avowed (Elemental Pact) | Warder (Zweihander Sentinel) with Embodiment of Aether incoming. He is the king of the storm, the rain transformed.

Pic adorably related!

>>50930691
It's not the domains. It's that Wisdom is a better stat than Int.


Conversion is always a good choice though.

>>50930691
>some good OD options for blessings
Liberation.

>>50930730
Aether Channel is a free action, anon, as of the latest release!

>>50930691
The best blessing is probably the War blessing, though other good ones include Strength, Darkness/Trickery, Luck, Liberation, and Destruction. If you know what enemies you'll be facing then Chaos/Evil/Good/Law are decent. For inquisitions, it's probably Conversion.

Really though, the fact is that a Warder isn't going to be your skills guy, so int isn't something he needs. But he DOES need good Will saves, so he wants wis. Also Perception, Sense Motive if he's a ZS, etc.

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>>50930710

Oho, buddy please. I'm not "riding" them like that, I'm actually being carried into battle on their backs!

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>>50930802
>Aether Channel is a free action, anon, as of the latest release!

Beautiful.

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>>50930807
Yeah. Spelunking them is for at home!

>>50930751
Only if you want to be the face.

Better is saving throws. Protection Warpriest gives you the VERY rare sacred bonus to saving throws and AC.

Like >>50930755 said Liberation is also great.

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>>50930807
>like that
Why not combine?

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>>50930831

Is it wrong if I find spelunking a horrific concept, and if I was forced to fuck a dragon in their draconic form than I would much rather be Enlarged or her Reduced to do the deed?

>>50930876
Not a gurren lagan picture?

>>50930888
I'd rather be the same scale as my girl, to be honest, too.

>>50930691
Conversion/Reformation Inquisitions for skills, or Destruction Blessing for damage.

So pfg, I have a player in a game that wants to do grappling better, anyone have anything worth looking into 1pp only unfortunately.

>>50931009
Sohei is a good grappler, isn't it?

>>50931009
how big options are we talking about
classes, feats?

>>50931009
>anyone have anything worth looking into 1pp only unfortunately.

Throat Slicer is a legitimately powerful feat that is basically a two-hit kill.

>>50931009
The real issue with grappling is 1pp is that Freedom of Movement makes it actually useless.

>>50931049

Most enemies don't have Freedom of Movement.

>>50931049
And anything that can't cast freedom of movement will eat you alive because it's larger, has more limbs, and has natural attacks.

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What do you lovely lads want to see made for the Dragons campaign!

>>50929922
Call Out is a feat that forces a foe to join into a duel with you if it fails the save required, but it needs the actual Dueling rules to function.

>>50930481
>Build your campaign around the player characters.
I would love to. The problem I'm running into is that only one of them really has a fleshed out story. The other two are just sort of... there, I guess. That's something that just comes down to inexperience, again, I think. I could tell them to come up with more than what they have already, but at the same time I don't want to be too pushy. I'm assuming they were mostly thinking that their characters would start as blank slates that would grow over time. Either that, or they're just lazy. I don't know. They're certainly not the most creative bunch, so getting anything worthwhile out of them might be a little hard to do.

>First, remind the Paladin that Lawful Good does not mean Evangelical Asshole.
This is the problem I'm running into. He's a stubborn dude and that definitely shows through his character. It's not too bad (yet), but it does get a little old having to stop every time the Oracle does something so the Paladin can complain about it.

>Second, remind the Oracle that Neutral Evil does not mean Puppy-Kicking Serial Killer.
The Oracle is less of a problem than the Paladin, to be honest. He's more neutral than evil. It's just that his methods are... less than good and so the Paladin feels the need to vocalize his distaste every time he does anything. The biggest issue I'm running into is trying to find a reason for either of them to associate with each other in the first place. Finding a common goal for two characters on opposite ends of the spectrum is proving to be difficult, at least when taking into consideration how the Paladin is going to handle the way the Oracle will inevitably go about reaching that goal.

>>50929922
Antagonize
Combat Reflexes +Stand Still

>>50931028
>>50931023
Just hit level 4 and using the Constable archetype caviler. Well on that note, what is a good leadership trait for him to share? He was asking about good options since he planned to retrain it.

>>50929085
RIP JACK CHICK

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>>50931268

No. No. Don't tell me he's gone.

I need to read more about Moon Worship and Thai Cuisine!

>>50931279
Nah he's actually dead.

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>>50931268
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Chick
>Died October 23, 2016 (aged 92)

Holy shit. How did I miss this?

2016 is taking everyone.

>>50931279
What did he have to do with Thai cuisine?

>>50931362
Thai Cuisine is literally one of the books in a big stack of "evil satanist" books, in an image where the D&D players have blood sacrifices hanging off their belts.

>>50931455
Oh, was I supposed to pick up more taboo ingredients for my thai curry tonight?

>>50931505
no apparently thai cuisine IS a disgusting satanic ritual in and of itself.

I guess maybe chick had IBS

>>50931033
Huh, that actually looks pretty good. Especially if you can get a special attack that has Grab, like an alchemist tentacle.

>>50931362
>pic
deepest lore

>>50931033
Explain?
Maintaining a grapple takes your standard, so how would you ever use this with grappling?

>>50931529

Wow. That guy must have really started to run out of things to demonize.

>>50930232
Yes, it lets you use strength for the effect of pact abilities too.

>>50931536

It's well-known by history dorks that mind-altering substances were not only known to the ancients, but cherished.

Heck, prophets and oracles were famously epileptic!

>>50931575
Greater Grapple. Lets you maintain as a move action.

>>50931595
Ah thanks.

>>50931587
wasn't the oracle at delphi on some sulphur vents?

>>50931578

Wait a second, are you telling me if I took Embodiment of the Aether and the "Who Help Themselves" clause, then I can add my Strength bonus to saving throws?

>>50931634
To one saving throw at a time, yes.

>>50931618

Yup, and in legend the oracle at Delphi was the spot Python the dragon was slain by Apollo, his eternally-rotting corpse giving off the sickly sweet stench of decay.

>>50931751
See Also: Religion

Humankind's been trying to find explanations for things it can't understand since the dawn of goddamn time.

>>50931679
>>50931618
Actually, that idea's been in a state of flux recently; there ARE signs that there were vents within the temple of Delphi, but there is absolutely no trace of sulfur or other hard mind-altering substances being burned. As far as modern research can tell, the vents were used to create atmospheric lighting and dynamic smoke, while the oracle was either legitimately handicapped in some way (either through seizures, schizophrenia, or other methods), or was simply a really good actor and could mimic said disabilities.

>>50931362
What is the book that text is from? I need it.

Am I the only one that cares about open carry, peace bonding and more?

Players give me such fucking strange looks when I say "You can't buy a Fireball Wand, they're highly illegal and owning or making one is punishable with imprisonment." or "You need your weapons peace bonded while in the city, if you don't have them peace bonded or stored and someone important sees you then you can get in trouble (likely fines).".

It's like people get weirded out when cities don't want people with dangerous magic/at the ready weapons walking around unless they have some sort of reason to (military, noble's employee, license).

Sure small towns can't enforce this, but large cities try to. Especially for shit like a fireball wand because that could easily kill hundreds of civilians in the hands of a level 2 expert with decent charisma. (he's only manage to activate it one out of every 2-3 rounds, but that still would kill dozens with each blast).

>>50932049
The fireball wand thing makes sense as a black market item, but a sword is just something a person carries. Nobles, knights, guards, smart travelers, everyone's gonna have a sword.

>>50932049
What about people who can just do that shit without a wand?

How are they treated? Do Psions, Sorcerers, and Sphere casters all need to register themselves as WMDs?

>>50932049
>>50932123
Easy: Only the strong survive. If commoners can't deal with homicidal mage, they don't deserve to.

RULES OF NATURE

>>50931634
>to determine the save DCs of your aether pulse, clause, and pact abilities.

Save DCs.
That's it.

>>50930251
Don't get hit to the first. You do this by stacking miss chances, physical interdiction (the old Robilar's Gambit/Karmic Strike/Improved Trip setup) or neutralizing them before they can hit you.

Second verse same as the first, but Cut/Smash from Air or emergency parries (like Crane Wing and Wings of Cover used to be) come into play.

Third is Stalwart. Slippery Mind and a few other things give you rerolls instead.

>>50931634
"who help themselves" ups saves, not HAS saves, so no.

>>50932171
I don't think that holds in the court

>>50932049
It's possible you're dealing with veteran players.

On average, it only takes one cocking up of the peacebonding or "leave them at the door" situation for the demand to become a new synonym for "roll initiative".

Very often naive young new players will understand stuff like this, and leave shit with the coat-check like they're asked.

... then they're either executed while unarmed, OR they never see their gear again.

And, as one might say, "you only get one". From that point on most players become a bit more defensive of their things. The more devious will hide their weapons or find ways to smuggle them, while some may simply view "please remove your weapons" as what they learned it *was*: an overtly hostile act. This is compounded by the high likelihood that the people asking you to disarm ARE ARMED, and possibly (as security or those groping assholes who couldn't find a bomb if you taped one to their faces in the TSA are wont to do) quite arrogant and/or belligerent.

>>50932276
It does when you are the court. Or are stronger than the court.

Iron Age rules, bitches.

>>50932347
Get out of here Karzoug

>>50932336
you forgot "torture sessions"/"interrogations". the people who want you to not have weapons are the people who don't want you defending yourselves with said weapons. they have your best interests at heart the way those electrodes have your testicles at heart.

>>50932270

That's what I meant, anon!

>>50932384
I don't think they are going to ask for your gear in those situations

>>50932123
Any good spells/magic items to put on unlicensed spellcasters temporarily while they're in town that'll keep them from casting without disrupting things and people around them? Like a personal antimagic field or something.

>>50932507
That's going to get retardedly expensive super fucking quickly.

Especially since that disrupts their lives in other ways, like not being able to be healed benefiting from regular ass magic services in city, etc.

>>50932095
It's fine to walk around with weapons. Peace Bonding just means they are tied shut while in town.

>everyone's gonna have a sword.
Swords are actually pretty damn uncommon among the general populous. A knife? Sure. A sword? Not common.

>Kraken encounter after a series of sea creatures attacks
>Everybody is almost out of resources
>8th level group
>Is slowly smashin the vessel
>"Everybody, flee!, to the boats!"
>My monk decides to try attack it
>1 Stun left
>Hit
>Crit
>Confirm
>GM "Not bad, but is small pota...[rolls Fort]...to..[Nat1]..."
>Everbydoy "Shieeeeeet!"
>GM "You know what...it leaves, clearly you didn't deal much damage but it never faced something like that before and doesn't want to stay and figure it out"
I feel so damn good even though I did so little

>>50931656
>>50932253

One person says one thing.

Another says something else!

>>50932049
>He doesn't game in a society where there's a social imperative to be armed at all times.
Lucky you.

Everyone's in my GM's setting is ready to fight incase the unending tide of Dreaded make it past the Sanctum's outer defenses. Level 1 incursions are a daily occurrence, usually get taken out by the Watch or a wary citizen, while level 2 or 3 incursions might happen once or twice a month, and will see a small posse get gathered up to kill em.

You do need a LICENSE to buy something like a fireball wand (technically, it's a Destruction Wand, as we don't use Vancian Magic in our games), though.

>>50932575
Well, the ability flat out says it's to the save DCs.
So, unless you're a save DC, you're not being increased.

>>50932123
Spell casters are far less common than a dangerous wand. In Pathfinder a spellcaster able to cast fireball is really uncommon.

>>50930033
What I don't understand is how in 7 years he never faced such a problem, srly, someone who has 16 dex and 3 ranks on acrobatics already passes that DC 10 EVERYFUCKINGTIME, is impossible that in 7 years he never faced a situation in where a character don't automatically pass piss easy DCs.

>>50932612
Not really. Uncommon, but they still exist in enough numbers to be a civic concern.

>>50932574
That story turned me on.

I've had one of those moments, when there was a dragon flying toward my party and I'm like "fuck it" and cast Disintegrate, get a critical hit and confirm and get through its spell resistance. Dragon miraculously fails its fortitude save, and is dust on the wind.

>>50932607

I'm a Save DC!

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>>50932574
>>50932649
>nat 20 stories
Nice job getting lucky on those randomly determined outcomes, nerds.

>>50932649
>He doesn't just use Discipline Mastery to take 10 on his sense motive check with his Half Giant OD/ZS Warder to erase his enemies with a Zenith Strike whilst in Stance of the Primal Warrior.

>>50932686
>Letting luck determine anything when there are spells, maneuvers, and items all made to counter this.

>>50932686
I already said that I felt so good doing so little (which was literally just the GM having bad luck in 1 roll)
Also the important wasn't the crit, like at all, was that the Kraken rolled nat1, I could have rolled Nat20 and maxed my punch and still wouldn't even deal 10% of the Kraken's HPs (I think).

GM could also went with "Congrats, you managed to gain one turn, which means fucking nothing the Kraken will still beat us" but decided to make it flee because it never faced something like that

>>50932607
... Whoops, yeah. We'll have to fix that.

>>50932740

>you will never be princess-carried by a half-giant OD/ZS

>>50932686

What is it called when the bully gets bullied by more experienced bullies?

>>50932612
1. You can't create a Wand of Fireball unless you can cast Fireball
2. Many spellcasters don't craft magic items(at least, not routinely)
3. Of those who do, many don't(or can't) craft wands(since it's not a (common) bonus feat, and it's generally one of the less useful ones - of all crafters, those who can only create scrolls or potions(due to wizards and alchemists) are almost certainly more common than ones who can create any other kind of magic item)
4. Finally, even if a spellcaster can create a Wand of Fireball, he's unlikely to spend a significant amount of time doing so compared to adventuring and crafting other kinds of magic items. And even if he does, it takes 12 days per wand, so he can only create about 30 per year.
5. Therefore, we can conclude that wands of fireball shouldn't be very common compared to casters who can cast a fireball - assuming wands are being consumed at approximately the same rate as they are being created and therefore have an average life time of approximately one year(after all, there's little point creating such wands if they aren't going to be used), there should be AT MOST around 30 wands of fireball per caster capable of casting a fireball, and almost certainly more casters than wands.

Magic vs Civilization measures tiers:

>High Tier
-PCs exclusively travel underground networks of rogues, rebels and criminals to routinely smuggle themselves into literally every major city, this is a major facet of the the world setting
-all citizens wear power-siphoning collars that give patrol captains and ranks above that progressively greater access to magic powers with their own ranked collars
-your powers aren't even real outside of the place your adventures take you into

>Mid Tier
-easily bribed gate guards but you're still in trouble if caught later
-brutal technocracy/magocracy with shockingly overkill security forces in place police the towns, possession of weapons and monitor spellcasters
-towns are antimagic fields
-your powers ARE real outside adventuring areas, but it's WoD-style bullshit where if normies witness *any* of it there are sudden and potentially horrible consequences that have a random chance to occur

>Low Tier
-"it's just fantasy, we contrive the setting to pretend it's not a problem"
-this is LITERALLY god's city/planar hub and angels will fuck you up if you touch anything

>Bottom Tier
-"no one gets weapons! casters are fine though ^.^"
-magic is just really incredibly rare to the degree where any mage you play is the only one most NPCs will see in their life, and the only magically relevant people in the setting are (surprise) you, the villain and like one unhelpful allied place like the village containing the last 10 elves on the planet

>>50932871
whoops, 'antimagic field' was a tier above where intended

Are primal dragons supported for Bloodrager bloodlines? I know I saw something for Sorcerer bloodlines, but I don't remember whether or not you can do cool cloud dragon things as a Bloodrager

>>50932871
What the fuck are you talking about

Where are there good rules for lycanthropes? Has anyone ever written it so you're essentially a monster with racial hitdie in wolf form, or at least a different class?

>>50932574
That's kinda anticlimatic though, I like when it takes more than a single lucky shot to defeat an overwhelming enemy, something like a series of good turns meaning that you can actually beat them and not because the planets aligned during 6 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cljFWmmPTP8

>>50932822
I think they post captioned webm's of it in sissy threads on /gif/

>>50932871
Only mages have that problem in WoD, and some others in lesser different ways.

Demons for example don't want the God Machine to catch'em, so on-camera is bad, but the average mortal won't pick up on the majority of things they do. When you edit Rules.ini, those affected "have always been like this".

Mummies just don't give any fucks whatsoever if I recall.

>>50932837
Wands of Fireball would be more common than casters that can cast it. After all, one caster that is able to cast Fireball that goes into a career supplying magic items, then they might distribute a number of them. You don't need to be able to cast fireball to use the wand.

>>50933064
but, that's false.

Wands are spell-trigger items and can only be used without UMD by someone whose class has that spell on its corresponding spell-list.

>>50932871
>Law and government is hilariously evil and ~chaotic rebels~ are the PCs only friends.
>Anything above garbage tier.
You, sir, as the platonic form of a pleb.

>>50932837
>Crafting feat is rare and not very useful
To PC's******
Think about an actual fucking entrepreneur who wanted to make some money, or needed to supply an army back in the day. It's very conceivable that many were produced in some historical period, and left over (like ak's) or, in a high fantasy setting, some guy runs a shop and his apprentice wizards are tasked with making wands for practice and profit. Not all wizards are adventurers. The richest ones aren't. Remember that the folks that made bank on the gold rushes weren't the miners, but the people selling shovels.

>>50933031
>Only mages have that problem in WoD, and some others in lesser different ways.
Yeah, in VtM people will find out and kill you basically. Or you get hunted by furious religious people sometimes.

>>50933109
You immediately contradicted yourself. You literally do not need to know how to cast fireball to use the wand. You gave the alternative prerequisite right after saying he was wrong. Why? What did you accomplish? Be right back, putting ranks in Universal Media Disk.

>>50933137
how are they still apprentices if they can cast fireball?

and how are there so many mages in the first place.

>>50932871
>No "Magic is common, everyone is armed, and the peace is kept by everyone respecting that and ganging up on those who do not." option

>>50933064
12 days per wand. And that's assuming they do nothing but craft Wands of Fireball eight hours per day. If they're actually in the business of supplying magic items(instead of doing it for shits and giggles which, admittedly, is a possibility. Frigging wizards.), Wands of Fireball are almost certainly not going to be the most common item they're asked to create. Like I said, that's 30 wands per year and most of those aren't going to last for very long - unless you expect to use the wand regularly, it's usually cheaper to just get a bunch of scrolls. Casters capable of casting a fireball MIGHT be slightly less common than Wands of Fireball, but even that's debatable, and they're certainly not going to be far less common.

>>50933163
I don't know, nigger, I didn't write the setting! Maybe you're not a journeyman until level 5 in a setting where some old fart is manufacturing boom sticks for sale at Wal Mart. I'm just saying there're consideration, and you're making a ton of assumption. The wands -can- be rare, if your context is correct, but there are many other perfectly acceptable contexts that make them common.

>>50933127
I didn't get the same impression as you off that one. If anything it's an Everyone Is The Bad Guys dystopia, like cyberpunk shit minus the cyber. You have to function outside the law to do your heroic shit, but that doesn't imply anything about whoever else is outside the law.

>>50929610
Do underground & sails. Make the players ride currents

>>50933170
Where would you tier that one? That sounds pretty bottom to me.

>>50929610
The world is connected by theme park rides. Illegal carts will try to bump others for fun and profit.

>>50933207
That was more a statement on the fact that everything above mid-tier assumes an oppressive government.

>>50933137
But see, ESPECIALLY if they're crafting things for profit, wands are going to be near the bottom of the profitable items to be crafting. Only a fraction of potential customers are going to be able to even use them unless they sell exclusively to other mages.

>>50933163
>and how are there so many mages in the first place.
Because PF is a high fantasy setting rooted in D&D and D&D settings are seldom written with the game mechanics in mind.

>>50933225
Higher than the shitty "governments are all assholes, lel~" memes that make up the list's upper tiers. Probably mid.

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>>50933225
You sound pretty bottom to me

>>50933280
>governments want people to be safe so they're assholes
Only brutal technocracy and collars are evil ones on the whole list.

>>50933288

Power Bottoms are the best! The best!

>>50933263
Why would you assume that? Maybe everyone gets training in UMD in such a setting. Maybe there's a fireball wand leaning against every door for home defense. That's like saying computers are worthless to everyone but nerds in a world where we're capable of mass producing computers and software.

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>>50933157
Wands CANNOT be used by those not of the appropriate class without an explicitly trained special skill and a DC 20 check. You cannot use it without being the appropriate spellcaster type unless you have special training that allows you to fake it, and even THEN your odds of success are unimpressive without PC levels and bonuses.

Not only do you require specialized training, but the average NPC with +0 CHA and no class-skill bonus to it will only have a 25% chance of success at level 4 if they keep full ranks in the skill.

This is neither a useful nor wise use of their time in combat, which is where a wand of fireball is needed most. It's an excessively expensive stick at a standard purchase price of 11250gp; more than the purchasing power of a level 5 PC or a level 10 heroic NPCs total value (of which no more than 4k should have been spent on a single weapon item; and far less for limited use ones).

The majority of people not only CANNOT use a wand of fireball, they've never even met someone that could afford it either.

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>>50933163
A carryover from Faerun.

>>50933321
Repetitious memes are the worst! The worst!

>>50933312
Any government that disarms its populace deserves to be overthrown and its leaders strung up on the lampposts as examples of what happens to all tyrants. So yes, they're all assholes.

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>>50932871
>everything is based off my hyper-specific experiences tier

>>50933326
>I'm right because I can houserule it
yeah, go fuck yourself with fire.

>>50933326
Then maybe you should've specified that in the premise, dipshit. Yeah, sure. It takes 6 seconds and a copper piece to craft a Wand of Fireball in your setting. Not really relevant to the discussion at hand.

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>>50933288
Well yeah but that's a given.

>>50933363
I dunno, man, seems like the first wizard that makes a wand of fireball any peasant can use and afford would a rich and famous man that would have changed the world. and also wouldn't know right from wrong very well

>>50933351
Where are you from, syria? Somewhere shootier? It's not safe to hand out missile launchers to every retarded person on earth.

>>50933435
There's a difference between keeping explosives out of the hands of people in a place devoid of structure or government and telling everyone in your country to voluntarily surrender their means of defending themselves. Maybe some day, the cops will be psycho indoctrinated paladins of protection that can teleport anywhere and prevent any violent crime, but for now it takes them 20+ minutes and they aren't responsible if I get cut into pieces by some maniac, so I'm packing.

>>50933417
Eternal Wands are that, I think. Great 3.5 stuff. They go up to 3rd level and are just 2/day wands (no charge bullshit) that everyone can use. I think they had an extra 100gp or 200gp tacked on and otherwise used the same pricing scale as 50-charge wands.

>>50933435
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

>>50933347

You're a cute! A CUTE!

>>50933490
I'm pretty sure Eternal Wands have 3 charges per day, and follow the rules for wands in everything else.

>>50933477
>explosives out of the hands of people in a place devoid of structure or government
This IS what magic in medieval setting amounts to though, which is the topic at hand.

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>>50933417
Arming a populace is never a bad thing, anon. It sounds like that Wizard is a great man.

>>50933435
Brooklyn. And it's fine for Missile Launchers to be available for purchase by every person on earth, because the only thing that would hurt are institutions of power that require all means for violent force to be centralized in a single organization. Decentralization, as always, is once again better than centralization.

>>50928989
>Top Image is not a anime Kitsune pic
Please delete thread.

>>50933546
>Brooklyn. And it's fine for Missile Launchers to be available for purchase by every person on earth, because the only thing that would hurt are institutions of power that require all means for violent force to be centralized in a single organization. Decentralization, as always, is once again better than centralization.
Oh good, a libertarian.

>>50933546
oh you americans

>>50933546

I don't want the shadow people of Detroit and Chicago anywhere near a functional rocket launcher.

>>50933477
that and if you're black, the cops ARE the maniacs trying to murder your family.

>>50933546
Is it time to bust out the Ancap memes?

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>>50933619
>>50933641
>Wanting to live in a society where the government can buttfuck you at will if they one day decide to actually go full evil.
I'm sorry, I can't hear you over my BURNING FREEDOM

THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO OWN WANDS OF FIREBALL SHALL NEVER BE INFRINGED!

>>50933652
Hey, man, Drow are people too. Not cool.

>>50933689
The war on drugs was a mistake. Skooma, herbal inhalants, and all other alchemical and magical substances should be legal and regulated.

Oh god, I can already tell this thread is about to go "fun" places.

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What's going on in /pfg/ toda-

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>>50933779
don't worry

>>50933543
Oh, well it's way more fun that way, anon. When the people on question aren't hungry, and do great things with it, and there are literal evils and monsters to fight. If dragons were real, every man should have a 20mm cannon; it would only be responsible.

>>50933765

SUCK ON MY MISSILE PUNCH!

>>50933803
Where is that tail coming from?!

>>50933779
What's the source for that?

>>50933689
Holy FUCK you slammed on the pedal, there, friend. I'm not gonna bring statistics into this, but Jesus CHRIST. Going down your line of thought does support the anarchist in the thread's idea that the populous should be armed if the government is gonna bully and assfuck the people in the name of security.

For the first time in a long while /pfg/ is the best, and the worst, thread on /tg/ right now.

Rolled 2, 3 = 5 (2d8)

height/weight roll

>>50933815

Elephants are real and we don't carry around .450 Nitro Express rifles, anon.

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>>50933823
Tsuda preferred not to ask.

>>50933824
Go read Kaguya. It's... yeah.

>>50933854
>Go read Kaguya. It's... yeah.
I'm never going to recognize that manga...

>>50933527
(~°^°~) if you're in L.A. and will come hold my hand and read rules with me, I'll take back the mean things I said about repetitious memes

>>50933850
Speak for yourself

>>50933824
Kaguya Wants to be Confessed To.

>>50933854
>>50933862

Isn't that manga just five volumes of sex jokes?

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>>50933824
>He missed the hypest threads on /a/

>>50933882
I only go to /pfg/

>>50933765
>Living under a government that LITERALLY EXPECTS YOU TO DIE IF YOU'RE EVER THREATENED WITH VIOLENCE oh and also is letting poor, uneducated people who don't speak the same language as you flood over the borders

Oh, Europeans.

>>50933840
At this point most municipal police in the US aren't even doing 'public' security anymore; THEIRS comes first. This is part of the mentality that's led to the shootings.

The canned defense they use whenever they gun someone down because they panicked or felt like it or just wanted whatever that person had, It's practically a meme now:
>I believed I had reason to be fearing for my life

Shit like that gets spouted even when what one of them did was jump onto a stopped car and empty his entire magazine through the windshield.

>>50933765
I guess - to be fair, the government going full Evil with the capital E is like 50 times more likely in a world with literal fiend influences and undetected mind control running rampant, not to mention flimsy fictional character archetypes flying about.

>>50933879
No, that's Seitokai Yakuindomo, which is what >>50933803 is from

>feat to give animal companions 1-1 level-HD progression
>also makes them count as magical beasts instead of animals, but doesn't change BaB progression or HD size
>PC must be 7th level and have an animal companion to take the feat

terrible idea or excellent idea

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>>50933879
No, that would be Seitokai Yakuindomo (which is 14 volumes of sex puns and counting).

Kaguya wants to be confessed to is relatively new and the main character a bit more innocent...

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>>50933889
>he doesn't get great reaction images from all over.
What a fucking pleb

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>>50933928
>not making your own

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>>50933928
I don't even know where to start on /a/

>>50933863

But I'm nowhere near L.A.! I want to hold your hand but I'm 900 miles away!

You're such a sweetheart for offering~

>>50933891
Do keep in mind the US (trump in particular, he has a lot of construction) wants more than anything for their illegals to stay illegal. It's not about stopping them, it's not about keeping jobs, it's about making sure that those stealing those jobs (they do want to eat and not die, mind you) keep them stolen, under the table, and with shit pay and no rights, instead of registered, paying taxes, and being legal citizens with rights and protections.

Because shit like those last bits lead to "middle class", and "middle" are not slaves.

>>50933850
I would if they were real in Canada to be honest. I would also drag around artillery in a sled if I lived in a place with Australian-level spiders. Fuck nature.

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>>50933945
>not cropping you reaction images exclusively from lewd doujins

>>50933900
I understand your point, and are it's swung too far that way, but their current attitude is born out of a lot of violence against police that came up in the 90's. It just circles around, you know? We just have to end the hate. Dye the black people white.

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>>50933945
>implying I don't

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>>50933928
I have made (and placed here) SO many reaction images from kaguya... There's a handful every week. EVERY WEEK.

>>50933850
Elephants don't live where I live, nigger. Folks carry around magnum shit for bears when they live in the back country.

>>50933823
Furry girls usually use some kind of belt hook, but simple tape, safety pins and plugs are often used depending on how much time the girl wants to dedicate to it / how insane she is. You can get away with a lot.

>>50933957
What the fuck are you talking about. I just like the fact that I can shoot a guy if he breaks into my house and tried to rape my dog, and the cops will say "good job, citizen."

I dunno what all that noise you just made has to do with that.

>>50933985

>Wanting people to get rid of their anti-bear defenses

That sounds like something a bear would say.

>>50933915
Why magical beasts? What extra thing are you trying to abuse? DM sense tingles when it seems like the HD scaling should be the only important thing but you add clauses like that.

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>>50933983
>tfw your scared the author is gonna pull something because of that other canceled manga,

>>50933968
Yeah, but the problem is at this point it's a matter of "we need them to put their gun down first"... and that's pointed at the cops.

Meanwhile, THEY are militarizing AND PRIVATIZING - see what happened with FOIA requests to swat teams caught randomly gangbanging and murdering; "oh, we don't have to do that, we're a private corporation that's company secrets".

>>50933952
Do you have a kik

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>>50934016
Oh right, I'm a dumbass and forgot that that part was an interaction with a different feat. The one that adds Familiar features.

>>50933928

I NEED REACTION IMAGES

GIVE ME REACTION IMAGES

>>50932686
The fact that the picture is a negative version of a Fire Emblem parody of an anime scene is hilarious to me.

>>50934025
Just dye the blacks and the Mexicans and the gays white, man, it's the only way.

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>>50934049
Wait till bump limit nerd!

but here's one

>>50933546
Except my neighbors are fucking stupid and would go shoot up a university if they could because of "liberals".

>>50934078
Not if you shoot them first, anon. And not if that school is armed to the teeth.

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>>50934068
The thread is better this way.

>>50934035

I do! But I deleted it so long ago ;_;

We can try to get into one of the meme games and hold hands that way!

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>>50933965
See, this man gets it.

>>50934109

That girl is so cute and chubby, I want to smash my face in her flabby belly and blow her a raspberry!

>>50934138
That's just the angle, she's really fit and busty.

Are techno guns worth the feat if you're not a slinger or multiclass into one?

>>50934152

That chest doesn't look very large to me, and you can still give raspberries to abs!

At this point I think it's too late to ask for everyone in Andoran to just drop their scorching ray wands. People wouldn't, or only the bad people wouldn't, and public safety just decreases more than anything. But they have to really ramp up education funding and unify national education standards; my main concern travelling there is the COMBINATION of everyone having the power to instantly make whoever they don't like into a roasted corpse AND some huge proportion of them being dumb as bricks at the same time. That don't fly by me, you know?

>>50934176
The series is a bit more grounded than something like Prison School.

>>50934160

Absolutely, technological firearms are exceptionally powerful assuming you have a steady supply of silver discs.

>>50934152
source?

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>>50933983
>tfw sushimoot killed a meme
CRASHING THIS YEAR

>>50934187

What's the series?

>>50934183

It's all the Ulfen immigrants that lower our education standards, the native Taldan population is quite learned.

>>50934049
https://imgur.com/a/0ibWD
https://imgur.com/a/K0UB5
https://imgur.com/a/jFmJZ
https://imgur.com/a/CVJZR

>>50934192

Why would you go onto the internet and lie like that?

>>50934160

They aren't, even moreso than regular guns, because they are STUPIDLY expensive to buy, impossibly rare to craft (requires at *least* two artifact-scale pieces of large, immobile equipment), and while they can be powerful, fueling them requires silverdisks, which are again, something you can only make with two large, artifact scale pieces of equipment and cannot be recharged without having a chance to break. As well, the basic ones are shit for damage--stuff like 2d6 or 2d8 elemental damage, or, worse, half one element and half another. It's entirely shit.

>>50934222
Re;life. The show goes over the first 100 something chapters.

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>>50934134
You know it!

It wasn't actually all that lewd.

>>50934269
That's Dowman if I've ever seen it.

This thread violated the NAP against my fucking brain

>>50934236
>https://imgur.com/a/jFmJZ
>them pouts

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>>50934109

>>50934236

I love you

>>50934338
Oh, I'll upload my other folders then too

>>50934236
Thanks for the arsenal. I can't wait to drastically diminish my friends' view of my intelligence and/or irritate the shit out of them on social media! Unironically!

>>50934236

What's the source of that large-chested dark elf in the first pack?

>>50934390
reverse google image search gave me:
kuroinu kedakaki seijo wa hakudaku ni somaru elf
Which lead to an ahegao site.

>>50934183
No one's saying it's reasonable for people to be out in everyday life carrying around their Scorching Ray, but concealed Burning Hands are totally within their right to protection and doesn't make everyone feel like they're about to die any moment they go outside.

Hey, anybody have advice on building a psychic? No 3pp allowed and PFS legal. I've no experience with the class, or casters in general, really. The fluff seems to indicate a control focus.

>>50934359

This is why Pathfinder General is the comfiest place on /tg/!

>>50934455

Ooh, I'll have to add that on my things to do tonight, along with Carnival Phantasm (I think that's what it's called?)

>>50934472
I agree. It's really a shame there are so many murder hobos wandering the streets, and I wish it weren't the case, but illegalizing magic is not going to take it out if their hands.

>>50934242
Assume we have access to a constant stream of silver disks through the usual method: murder. Are they still poop?

Where's that anon with the Kineticist Fey Dragon ?

Do they still want feedback?

>>50934472
Burning Hands wands would take like 3 shots to kill a commoner though. That's NOT ENOUGH FIREPOWER for safety!

>>50934236
>>50934049
>>50934493

https://imgur.com/a/41x8k
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https://imgur.com/a/PdNwK
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https://imgur.com/a/DO55d
https://imgur.com/a/f28HZ
https://imgur.com/a/nbs16

>>50934554

aaaaaAAAAAAAA!

This is amazing, thank you!

>>50934513

They are LESS so, but still pretty bad deals, especially since the *cheapest* one is something like 10k gold for 1d8 fire damage and a 20/x2 critical. Unless you go for one that deals only 1d6, has less range, and uses nanite canisters instead of silverdisks, which are more expensive and bulkier; or one that only deals nonlethal damage.

>>50934571
Well, we are playing Iron Gods so assume that we come across them at least once or twice in the early books and more so in the books after. Are they still kitsune levels shit?

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>>50934600

Why haven't we been memeing Dragons as much as Molthune Knights or RotJR?

>>50934603
P A G E 4
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>>50934612
Meme fatigue, lad.

>>50934603
it's page 4,fuck off

>>50934602


The ones you come across in Iron Gods will be, unless your GM changes things, almost universally timeworn; which means they cannot be recharged (even from silverdisks), has a 50% chance to just glitch under far too common circumstances, meaning the GM rolls on a 'fuck the players' chart.

>>50934554
Oh hell no, I'm not going through all that come on

>>50934663
Ya don't have to! I just put it out there for people who want them!

>>50934671

And we love you for it! I'll be sure to restructure my folders using the images you painstakingly categorized!

You've done me a great service, I'll never forget this.

>>50934525
Always. Tear into it, mechanics or otherwise.

Of course if you've got a character of your own I'll return the favor, even run a few numbers if need be.

>>50934612
SwimmingEagle.

>>50933435
The lamp post bit made me think Italy.

>>50934005
>and the cops will say "good job, citizen."

After they take the gun away. Forever.

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>>50933965

>>50935053
what about him

>>50935171
Hope the guy raping your dog (and or your daughters) wasn't wearing a badge though, or now you're a criminal because you killed an innocent LEO.

>>50935203
Dragons and Dragons is doomed to be THIQCQQQCCCCC until the end of time.