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Incoming fall of Cadia supplement edition.

>previous thread
>>50919536

Freshest Rules in Epub (Use Readium for PC or Kobo on Android)
https://mega.nz/#F!Wl5DAbCb!TYxZG4CgX_x-NJu7JBwbZQ!2tgBUTYI

>Older stuff in PDFs:
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ

>As current as the FAQs get
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Rules-Errata

>40K 7th Edition Quick Reference Sheets:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef.pdf

>Forge World Book Index:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index

>The Black Library (Dragons are red, Avengers are blue, the Wraithknight is huge, and he's going to kill you):
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q!c4pGAJDb

>List Builder if BS doesn't add enough bloat for you
https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator
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First for Dark Eldar! Long live the Eternal City.
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>>50923837

Slaanesh only has to break in once, and the only thing "eternal" will be one of xir's many phalluses up Vect's ass.
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>>50923837
Your city sucks
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>>50923837

nth for orks, masters of melee race
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>>50923858
>orkz receive the wulfen attack even though/if they're killed special rule as an army wide rule
Does this help orkz?
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>>50923896

not a whole lot, most die before they even make it to combat
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>>50923800
Close quarters Guard is best Guard. Demolishers, Punishers, Conscript blobs, Infantry blobs, Priests, Demo Melta Vets, Demo Special Weapon Squads, Bullgryn, Valkyries, Plasma Guns and Flamers everywhere.
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Fuck genestealers, their blood will stain our boots

I kinda want to get the Space Hulk boardgame but I don't really want to paint Blood Angels.
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1500 pts Tyranids/Genestealer Cult

**Combined Arms Detachment**

Hive Tyrant (1) - 255pts
1 Hive Tyrant: Wings,Rending claws,Lashwhip and bonesword,Adrenal glands,Old Adversary

Hive Tyrant (1) - 240pts
1 Hive Tyrant: Wings,Electroshock grubs,2 Twin-linked devourer with brainleech wormss

Mucolid Spore Cluster (1) - 15pts
1 Mucolid Spore

Mucolid Spore Cluster (1) - 15pts
1 Mucolid Spore

Malanthrope Brood (1) - 85pts
1 Malanthrope

Carnifex Brood (1) - 150pts
1 Carnifex: 2 Twin-linked devourer with brainleech wormss

Carnifex Brood (1) - 150pts
1 Carnifex: 2 Twin-linked devourer with brainleech wormss

Carnifex Brood (1) - 150pts
1 Carnifex: 2 Twin-linked devourer with brainleech wormss

**Subterranean Uprising**

Primus (1) - 75pts
1 Primus: Rending claws,Bone sword,Needle pistol

Acolyte Hybrids (5) - 40pts
5 Acolyte Hybrid: Autopistol,Rending claws and close combat weapon

Acolyte Hybrids (5) - 40pts
5 Acolyte Hybrid: Autopistol,Rending claws and close combat weapon

Hybrid Metamorphs (10) - 100pts
3 Hybrid Metamorph: Rending claws,Metamorph whip,Autopistol
2 Hybrid Metamorph: Rending claws,Metamorph claw,Autopistol
5 Hybrid Metamorph: Rending claws,Metamorph talon,Autopistol

**Lords of the Cult**

Patriarch (1) - 115pts
1 Patriarch: Psyker Master Level 2

**Shadow Skulkers**

Purestrain Genestealers (5) - 70pts
5 Purestrain Genestealer

same anon as before, thinking this may be a good time as well. I guess its gonna depend on if he brings any land raiders
>not to be a tailormade fag but this is already a funtime list.
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>>50923964

Don't then, that's the new in thing
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>>50923964
>not wanting to paint best Legion
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>>50923896

Wulfen get Rage, FNP, can run and charge (without having to take a fucking specific Warlord and only once a game) and can reroll everything on charges except for 1 AND they get their attacks regardless of whether they're killed.

Orks should get all of that. It's completely fitting with their fluff.
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>>50923999

if you are running a melee tyrant already, why not run sky tyrant swarm?
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>>50923896
>a cute girl asks you if you want to play against her new SW army
>she puts pic related on the table and says they're Wulfen

What do you do.
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>>50924006
wulfen are ridicious, they have to be in the top 5/10 melee units
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>>50924023

They are the only reason I have faith that possessed might get fixed next time around.
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>>50924012
gargs don't mix with flyrants well like that. they are for tarpitting. you'd think it would work hammer and anvil, but it ends up you getting charged because it has a massive footprint and your melee flyrant not getting where he needs to go
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>>50924020
Play and beg for a decent moment to ask her out.
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>>50924006

>Wulfen with Great Frost Axe

>5 attacks on the charge at Str 8 Ap2 at Initiative 5, with 4+ save, rerolling all charge rolls, can Run and Charge, gets attacks even if killed in close combat, and can fight twice as a result of this, Feel No Pain, Counter-Attack, Acute Senses, Immunity to Fear and Sweeping Advance, Auto-Rally, Rage.

>38 points

>Nob with Power Klaw

>4 attacks on the charge at Str 9 Ap2 at Initiative 1 with a 6+ save, rerolling 1 die when charging and Mob Rule.

>43 points

I WILL NEVER NOT BE MAD ABOUT THIS
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>>50924020
I would hit on her with my social skills
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>>50924059

Those models just scream danger
shes a fury anon,
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>>50924069
wulfen is the wet dream of a furry fucker. They should name and shame the gamedesigner that made those rules, fucking disgusting.
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>>50924075
>"Lol Space Yiffs? Nice army fag"
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>>50924082
All women are furies.
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>>50924069
bloodcrushers are 45 points. somewhere khorne is mad jealous that he doesn't have wulfen fighting in his name while the emperor does
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Didn't know there was new thread, just made all these replies :(
>>50924054
>>50924071
>>50924090
>>50924054
>>50924034
>>50923831
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>>50924092
kek
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>>50924020
All kidding aside, those things are as big as Daemon Princes, for some reason.
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>>50924020
Deploy my own SW and clash both armies in glorious combat, yiff together and have a son named Bjorn Lupo McWolfson
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>>50924020
Fuck her right in the pussy
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>>50924069
>Str 9
Well there you go anon, S9 ain't free ya know
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>>50924085
>playing Dark Eldar
> i-imagine if the true eldar, and they captured a wolfen, and like, heh, like, heh, heh....
Wanna hang out some time?
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>>50924006
>>50924069
>>50924084

God I hate wulfen so fucking much, those and the damn stormfangs.

My buddy brings them every game and I don't know what to do
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>>50924085
>>50924084
>>50924069
>>50924023
>>50924006

Same fucker that made thousand sons into the shittiest traitor legion probably made the wulfen book as well. Fucker on the right, he gives rubrics an ap4 flamer and has the gall to charge for it, removes the only good options from the sorcerers and adds 70p to the exalted sorcerer just because it gets a fucking one use melta, puts a 650p price on magnus and makes sure you HAVE to take him in a 1ks detachment or hes stuck with a 4++ save, no fnp. I wish i could meet this fucker and spit on him
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40k is in the midst of their End Times right now. It will not result in a complete reboot of its lore, like WHFB suffered. 40k's End Times will never actually end. It's going to be like the Horus Heresy series. People are going to return and die-off, but it will be at an excruciatingly long pace. Expect a constant stream of minor updates. A la Black Legion update-> Traitor's Hate-> Traitor Legions. Better hope your faction sells well enough to get put into an Astartes (Chaos or Loyalist) campaign arc.
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>>50924139

stop playing him anon, its the only way they learn.
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>>50924158
>magnus
>bad
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>>50924092
My sides have transcended Apache and time anom
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>>50924158
you can see this is a wannabe viking neckbeard, furry as fuck
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>>50924168

>he didn't see Magnus get 1 shot
>he didn't see TS get tabled turn 3
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>>50924179
>A model can do really well if it surpasses astronomical odds

okay
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>>50924168
Magnus as the new win-condition for extant Flying Circus builds isn't exactly good news for those that wanted the ability to have a good game pushing some Thousand Sons Rubricae around the table.
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Working on building a Black Legion army and was wondering which is better as an auxiliary choice, terminator annihilation force or a raptor talon? Leaning towards raptors for T1 assaults
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>>50924168
650p model without stomp, fnp, immunity to D/poison, with a 4++ save and no guns.
>good
>hmm should i take a taunar, 2 wraithknights, 2 stormsurges, a battle company, a fucking warhound titan. Or a ml5 caster with a 4++ save that you cant put on the ground because he will get tarpitted/stomped/just faceraped by any tough unit immediately.
Fuck, twc would just straight up kill him.
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>>50924200

Magnus is good, as long as you don't play TS and build your army around him, I agree.

But he is not awesome enough that you would have to be retarded to not take him.
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>>50924139
>>50924158
>>50924176
>>50924084
>mfw this traitors believe they can match the sons of Russ
>mfw I stopped caring about their name calling when I just beat the living shit of them with SW
Your tears and hate only make me stronger
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>>50924166

It's his buddy, dude. That's how most of these games are played- with your buddies. Thus, getting your buddy to change his style of play is a bit more complicated and demands tact.

I hate how /tg/ imagines that all games are played in some kind of huge store environment where your opponent is someone you don't know or care about and when they put down something cheesy you can shriek "YOU'RE WHAT'S WRONG THIS GAME, FUCKO! I'M NOT PLAYING!"

In all seriousness, I have a friend who uses Necron Wraiths (in the formation that gives them re-animation) all the time and it drives me nuts. Sometimes I ask him not to bring them, but then I give him veto rights on one of my units as well.

Or we play a more narrative style, where sometimes it doesn't make sense for him to have wraiths. That's the answer. If this guy is your buddy, tell him to play something else for a change for a bit.
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>>50924212
Why would you take magnus? hes just a WC hog that can only take change/tzeentch which arent very good. a 650p model that might in 4 turns kill a normal knight, using up about 13 wc every turn. great.
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>>50924116
>Bjorn Lupo McWolfson

Can't let you do that, Star Wolf!
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>>50924006
This right here, along with thunder yiff cav are why I hate space yiffs
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>>50924240

then he needs to talk to him. I have a group of 5 friends and when we get sick of playing the same thing we tell them, and they change it.

Or they don't and I don't play him anymore.
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>>50924250
Alright then Bjorn Vllalobos
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>>50924020
Knock all the models off the table and then fuck her in the raw in the middle of the store.
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>>50924223
Raptors. Talon is lackluster, but at least Assault from Deepstrike Raptors can do well in some settings.

If you want more Termicide, max out your Terminator slots in the Warband first. Potential PE is stronger than potentially maybe getting to throw some Plasma at a Riptide before it annihilates you. Plus, the double-rolls on Boons is great. Frankly, if you want to run Terminators, take the Black Crusade detachment from Traitor's hate instead. ObSec terminators for mid-late game objective grabs, with enough firepower to clear some light-medium infantry or a vehicle are pretty swell.
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>>50924239

Liking SW is its own punishment.
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>>50924240

we had a tau/wulf player that would never stop bringing waacfag lists, "oh i wanted to try this" double stormsurge/riptide wing/TL-ignores cover coldstar bullshit/wulfen-twc-barkbarks
i told him its not fun to play him and now ive left the gaming group, waiting for it to die off.
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>>50924291
Girls do get turned on by RAW fags.
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>>50924158
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>>50924291

"Oh no, those were metal!"
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>>50924278
Ha, not that anon but we have a faggot that won't stop from WAAC every fucking game, he's the reason some of the new guys leave the group, I just pour every wolf I have down his throat every time I have the chance, it's hilarious because he is also a sore loser that will get incredibly mad when he lose and that rage is hilarious.
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>>50924020
Deploy mechanized infantry across from them. Try to force a charge into a transport to buy time. Deploy a fast high priority target to draw fire from the transports/troops, dying in the process if need be. Play for the objectives. Hope that Ahriman can do enough damage with Witchfires.
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>>50924020

>Compliment the minis, ask questions that will allow her to gush about the backstory to her bullshit custom chapter
>Listen intently. Play a good game, set up another some time.
>Make reference to stuff she described in earlier games so she knows I care.
>Above all keep cool, don't rush.
>Invite her out to a super casual drink or something like it's no big deal.
>Have a good time, repeat this process until she's thoroughly seduced.
>Leave forever because you remember she's a space wolf player and thus is a fat ugly neo-pagan with no taste.
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The fact that so many people would play against non-official GW models is disturbing.
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>>50924293
>Liking SW is its own blessing
FTFY
I know anon, they're incredibly flexible, I don't even need wulfen or thunderwolves, I can go with only grey hunters with long fangs and dreads and have a blast of a game, only to go full retard when the WAAC fag of our group shows up.
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>>50924319
strange how is the WAACfag playing himself?
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>>50924377
you dont even realise that youre that waacfag, sad
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I've been hit with the desire to do WH40K fanfiction.

Then I realized it really could work better as its own thing.

I feel terrible that if I work on it, I'm effectively just refluffing existing WH stuff and making it Original Product Donut Steel.

I mean I know every element that exists in 40K is part of other story universes, but there's generic characteristics and then there's OBVIOUS inspiration.
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>>50924358
That's not how you attract girls you faggot
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>>50924371
why
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>>50924291

>Make your cover saves bitch! *rips off panties*
>Hah, failed! Time to roll for penetration!
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>>50924402
Just write it but don't put it anywhere to get it out of your system.
If the urge ever strikes you again just look at what you wrote the first time to convince yourself otherwise.
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>>50924409
yeah i hear leaving forever doesn't have a good success rate
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>>50924402
What will it mean, anon?

If it's just going to be bolterporn, don't bother.
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>>50924358

You forgot to make her eat some eggs
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>>50924412

because autism

Its also strange how many SW players in this thread haven't realized they are part of the problem
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>>50924402

It could be good if you stopped thinking about it as fanfiction and made it an actually decent story that was simply set in the 40k universe. 40k as a setting is far more supportive of "fanfiction" than say LotR or anime. You're SUPPOSED to create stories in this setting.
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>>50924377

Yea their rules are great. Too bad they're the most retarded HUGEMANS Mary Sues among the most retarted, most HUGEMANS Mary Sues in practically all of fiction.

If the Space Wolves were a crazy as fuck guard regiment, I'd be all about them. But Space Wolves even existing shits up the entire Imperium lore by just going "LOL NOPE OUR GUYS DON'T DO ANY OF THAT BUT ARE INSTEAD ACTIVE HERETICS AND MUTANTS LOL"
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>>50924427

>why are you doing this

Everytime
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>>50924414
>tfw you manage to remove her 25% cover and successfully penetrate, but you're the one that explodes
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>>50924423
By mean, do you mean "what is the story saying?"

The story isn't about space marines, tho. It's about life on a system of closely related worlds and one asteroid outpost. So, "A few agriworlds, a voidborn ship, and one Daemon World."

the story involves a culture incredibly influenced by North American protestant pilgrims and their habit of making sacred geometric symbols with glass working to ward off daemons. And how incredibly necessary and dangerous it is to exist there.
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>>50924409

HOW DOES GIRL?
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>>50924431
>implying they ever will
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>>50924444

Can't wait for the Wulfen to show up on Cadia

>Chapter Master Grimnar, you do understand that the point of this entire operation is to keep creatures like that OFF the surface of the planet?
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>>50924444
>If the Space Wolves were a crazy as fuck guard regiment

anon

not only did you get quads but you also inspired the fuck out of me

think Catachan as a home planet but snowy
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>>50924395
Eldars
>always scatterbikes
>always D scythe on wave serpent
>always warp spiders
>always other D units
>bought a wraithknight recently
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>>50924480
>take solar auxilia axe dudes
>give them space wolf bits
>put them in a Stormlord

fund it
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>>50924397
I never use the TWC, wulfen or shielded dreads with the rest of the group anon, if you call me WAAC fag for using grey hunters and long fangs then your faggotry is beyond the charts.
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>>50924497
>grey hunters and long fangs

That just means you were a WAACfag in 5E and simply never updated your army.
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>>50924444
forgive my newbness but I thought a great deal of the point of the imperium was that it was exactly like that. "Do as I say, not as I do. Power and fascism means rules apply to the little people, but not institutions." That sometimes the pillars of society make rules they don't follow, and it's not a matter of beating them back in line, but tolerating the fact you can't.

I thought that was what the wolves represented. Obstinate independence in a rigid hierarchy, tolerated because it's both loyal and because destroying it to bring it in line would eliminate its effectiveness, which they desperately need.

It's pathetic, but there's ultimately nothing they can do. Much like the compromises Holy Terra makes with the adeptus mechanicum compromising the holy human form with mutations, mechanical parts and more.
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>>50924488
yeah thats pretty annoying, sorry your eldar player is like that
>they all aren't
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>>50924503
>5e
Ah, so you're one of those still butthurt from 5th?
>opinion discarded
Go cry me a river faggot, yes they were good but the only truly broken unit back then were the TWC, grey hunters were just multi purpose units and one long fang shooting other unit? Oh so broken please nerf!
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Are dark eldar still playable?
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>>50924559
Yes since they aren't force to snap fire from a jinking vehicle.
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>>50924505

You're right, but those things are supposed to be closely guarded secrets. The guardsman is supposed to SUSPECT that maybe the world isn't exactly as his superiors tell him it is.

The Dark Angels are supposed to raise eyebrows. The Space Wolves just totally shatter the genre by just flaunting it out in the open.
The dark angels showed up out of nowhere and saved this planet, but why did they take over that hive city and not let any other imperial forces in for days? Could their motives be...impure?

HEY YA INQUISITOR FAGS, THE WOLFS ARE HERE! WATCH ME SWILL BOOZE WITH MY BUDDY WHO IS A WEREWOLF WEARING POWER ARMOR! WE HAVE A REPUTATION FOR HATING AUTHORITY, BUT IN THE GREAT CRUSADE WE WERE ESSENTIALLY THE GESTAPO! HA HA!
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>>50924559
Sure are, I just won a tournament with them last week
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>>50924559

everything is playable, whats your tolerance level for losing though?
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>>50924571
Yeah, weird that DA and SW are so closely tied when the Wolves make the Angels look like total tools for being so paranoid.
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What would happen if someone made slaanesh climax? Would it be like a new eye of terror? What if a pariah made it to slaanesh and fucked her/him/it?
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>>50924601

This is how you ascend to Daemon Prince.
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>>50924505
Don't listen to him anon, there and two kinds of SW haters, 5th edition butthurt players that didn't had a 5ed codex and TS fags, both of them will put their head canon before reason and cold facts, yes the space wolves are rebellious but they're are also one of the few chapters that will stand for the people of the imperium rather than the imperium institutions, also they like to pretend dark angels aren't worst than them by murdering several inquisitors, civilians, guards and other astartes to hide their secret agendas
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>>50924571
>oh no fellow ultramarine captain we gotta mindscrub those marines because they fought chaos and we can't risk them getting infected by chaos
>rofl fellow space wolf i just beat up 5 bloodcrushers and slapped the ass on a keeper of secrets

>>50924601
what if you make slaanesh cry instead?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3ZU0di_d_A
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>>50924571
all I'm getting out of this is a Wulf and Angel team would be like a buddy cop movie.
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worth upgrading tzaangors to have autopistols? keeping in mind that not doing would be like, one or two more rubricae at max
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>>50924655

I always held the belief throwing points at a bad unit is never a good thing.

But with TS I am not sure it really matters
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>>50924655
It's weird as much as I like the models, if you want guns you are probably off with regular cultists
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>>50924371
>Autism
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>>50923800
I've been playing too much games with around 150 models plus tanks. I want to make it easier to move.
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Sorry in advance if this question belongs in a WIP thread (and if it does kindly point me there!).

For homebrew chapters how would you guys go about denoting Squad number, Company number, and if a marine is a sarge or veteran? Is there an official guide to this or does everyone do their own thing?

I know that an arrow is tactical, crossed arrows assault etc etc but i'm unsure how to proceed with company, squad markings.
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>>50924779

that's probably a better question for WIP

no on here paints their models
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>>50924765
Swap a Vendetta for a pair of Hydra, add a Naval Officer to the CCS.
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>>50924765
the sponson selection on that executioner is atrocious
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>>50924808
S8 is pretty nifty when insta-killing certain units and for vehicles. I usually go back and forth between MM and Plasma Sponsons. It's far from as bad as you think.

>>50924800
I could give that a shot.
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>>50924779
Would depend if your homebrew is following the codex closely. I believe the space marine codex has a short bit on that, but if I'm remembering right the index astartes has more on it.

And you could always use a system that you came up with if you think it would fit your chapter better than the codex methods.
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>>50924765
>Split special weapons in Vet squads
>Flamers on BS4 Vets
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>>50924020

Depends... are they painted?
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>>50924821
Only 2 Meltas can fire out of the hatch. That 3rd one pretty much always goes to waste. It can be nice to have a back up weapon for hordes. After all, we don't tailor our lists.
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So do you guys prime on sprue or paint on sprue? I've always heard of people doing shit like this but it always baffled me.
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>>50924830

Followup question: are their areolae painted on?
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>>50924818
well i'dd assume a plasma sponson cranks out atleast 2 wounds depending on the spacing of the squad you're shooting at
i suppose i can see where you are coming from though, hadn't thought of it like that
also why no heavy flamers on the vets ? point cost to high ?
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>>50924843
I wanted to fit in the vox casters for accurate artillery in the Emperor's Wrath formation. Though, now that I think about it, I don't think they can use the vox caster for that special rule if they are inside a vehicle. I guess I could drop the voxs and upgrade to heavy flamers if that's the case.

And yeah the Plasma Sponsons are really nice. 5 shots is crazy, and with Pask's rule allowing you to re-roll the 1's for Gets Hot, it's pretty nifty. There's just been times where I really regretted not having the MMs.
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>>50924779
Lots of people don't bother with squad or company markings, they really aren't necessary.

If you want to fluff something up feel free.

Distinguishing sergeants and veterans is more important. Lots of ways of doing this but alternative helmet colours or reversed shoulder pad colours are the most common.

>>50924798
>that's probably a better question for WIP
It's really not since it's 40K specific question that isn't about how to paint.

>no on here paints their models
Some do...
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>>50924881

do you hangout in /wip/ though anon?
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>>50924881
it's beautiful anon

you are a deadset good cunt and deserve the emperor's highest praise
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>>50924881
Wow, a fully painted Tau army! But seriously, share with me your diligence for I need it very badly.
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Fluff question: within the Skittari and Cult Mech codices (i.e. no homebrew) what would an Ordo Reductor force look like [40k not 30k]?
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hows this for a mostly fun 1850 point list
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>>50924881
Fuck that IG army looks good.
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So, how would GW react to a store selling Forge World recasts? A simple cease and desist, or would they sue the shit out of them?
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>>50924655
tzaangors are shit outside the formation that lets them run and charge, might as well just bring nurgle kultists. Which is how they get you, you HAVE to bring tzeentch kultists, which is tzaangors. its so stupid i get conniptions
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>>50924881
>looks through armies
Where are the pictures of your Leviathan Dreadnoughts though?
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>>50924881
Long have I lusted for those scions/knights. I love the taurox weapon conversion
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>>50924983
They'd sue if it was a brick and mortar store, as it's a lot easier. But they'd probably C&D first.
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>>50924881
Do those drop pods have no doors? And where oh where are those Lucius pattern drop pods?
And why so many bikers? What is happening?!

Guard army is super cool though
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Why are so many 40k fans triggered by felinids? I am thinking about making some Felinid guards as my troll army.
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>>50925012
Felinid's and Trolls in the same army? Sounds more like an AOS army senpai, wrong thread.
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>>50925012

my biggest issue is not the army itself, but I now know exactly what type of player I am playing, and I try to avoid those types.
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Fall of Cadia is out on 7th, right?

I want to avoid spoilers if possible, so I'd have to avoid /tg/ as I do these days. /pol/, /tv/ and /v/ have removed the gentlemen's agreements we use to have....
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>>50925020
Not him, but I've wanted to make more abhuman IG units. Like Longshanks and shit. Felinids make great 'night time' troops in fluff, anyway.

Ogryns and Ratlings are a bit boring.
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>>50925009
There's a local store that advertises the fact that they can get Forge World stuff for cheaper than Forge World prices. The stuff is also a blatant recast. Quality is meh, and it takes ~6 weeks to get from ordering, so obviously from China.
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>>50924462
Step One: hide your hobby until after your married
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>>50925012
I really want to find a good way to make a felinid army. I haven't found good miniatures or conversion bits for it.
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>>50925029

nothing wrong with that, but I honestly would never play any feline army because I associated people who like that stuff with turbo-autist and they are a drag to play against.

and if I cant enjoy the game, I am not going to bother playing it
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>>50925012
I wanted to make an IG army based on the police from swat kats, but I don't have the time or money.
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>>50925039
That is because feline girls are for the worst of nerds in an already super nerdy hobby.
>What is green stuff
Seriously you lazy shit, if you want to make a shit army, buy femheads and green stuff gay ears on them.
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>>50925039
I researched and there isn't really. Infinity have some cat girls, but that's it.

>>50925034
I personally dislike recasts, because I used to be in a hobby scene and got screwed over by kids downloading fakes and the tournament organisers refusing to do anything because 'they're just kids and there isn't enough people here'. So I kinda resent it. But I understand why people do it. If they want to, go for it.

End of the day, if you want recasts, go straight to them, don't go through the middleman. I see what they're doing. People are idiots, so they offer you the chance for recasts with them getting a cut.

Up to you if you want to report them or not.
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>>50925012
>Why are so many 40k fans triggered by felinids?
Felinids are a thing.
Catgirls are not.
They're not the same, or at least there are no official depictions as of yet.
Since every single other form of mutant is is either damned to insanity, being a cripple or a monster in 40k is a constant the idea of sexy catgirls in the setting seems out of character and like wishful thinking to me.

You can do what you want, but don't be surprised by people reaction to what is essentially shoving your magical realm into the game.
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>>50925029
Ratlings are, but Ogryn are awesome. Bullgryn models too are amazing. I just wish they had appropriate points in game. 45 is 20 points too many for what they can do.
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>>50925066
Felinids are specifically different to Beastmen.

If we're looking at this from GW's point of view, chances are Felinids look like Thunder Cats.
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>>50925074
you are aware that wolfpeople are a real thing?
I think it's much more like GW to go 'lets fill an entire colony with those fuckers!'

They don't look super cute though.
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>>50925074
If we're looking at GWs point of view. They're old as fuck lore that will never be brought up again.
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Does anyone know of a battle report that has a leviathan dreadnought in a drop pod? I have only found one so far, and the player was stoopid.
>I will just drop this right in the middle of his army with all my other stuff really far apart
>I will shred one target with it then get shot to pieces
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>>50924966
What program do you use to make your list?
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>>50925086
They were mentioned in 6th edition BRB. That's not 'old as fuck lore' no matter how you try and spin it.

>>50925084
Shrug. I was just saying that since 40k is full of 80's references, the chances are they're Thunder Cats in appearance. If people want catgirls and catboys, let them have them.
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>>50925094
I don't, but most people in battle reports are bad. It's usually a bad player who is recording, but he's playing someone even more retarded with a retarded list, so he stomps.
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>>50925095
Read the OP. What's the point of the OP if people don't read it?

https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator
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This one
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>>50924901
>do you hangout in /wip/ though anon?
Rarely.

>>50924906
>>50924919
>>50924973
Thanks anons!

>>50925000
>Where are the pictures of your Leviathan Dreadnoughts though?
I only have one for my zone mortalis army. Haven't started painting that yet.

>>50925010
>Do those drop pods have no doors?
Because GW can't make up their mind how the doors work and they just get in the way. Plus drop pods are hideously boring to paint without the inside and outside of 30 doors to paint.
>And where oh where are those Lucius pattern drop pods?
Pods are magnetised so that they can be infantry pods, dread pods or deathstorms. I generally prefer multiples to magnetising but they're so fucking boring to build and paint.
>And why so many bikers?
1500 points of bikes for full or nearly full bike army.
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>>50925201
Or this one
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>>50924020
I use this as Psykers. I do not see the problem.
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Hey guys, Matt from miniwargaming.com here, and welcome to another episode of Beat Matt Batrep!
Today I will have some special rules that screw over the other player's vehicle based army, and I have no vehicles.
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>>50925243
The only problem I can see is that they have their boobs out for no reason, which doesn't make any sense.
Which is heresy.
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>>50925247
>Optimised Stealth Cadre
beat you to it, not fuck off.

>select all images with pizza
anything is a pizza if you try hard enough
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>>50925210

I like this one better
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>>50925258
I need their minds! Not their hands or clothing!

Oh I forgot boobs are scary for the USAfags sorry
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>>50925286
I am from Aus
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>>50925286
boobs are blatant pandering, especially when they're bolt ons like this
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>>50925260
I will take my Genestealers against you then friend. The way I run them are extra cheesy
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>>50925286

is it really odd to you that some people feel shame about having boobs on their plastic models in public.

It just screams look at me I am a snow flake
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>>50925039
Find some female IG models and greenstuff the ears on. Tails might be a bit trickier, although if you use a bent paperclip as an armature and pin it in place that should get the job done. The rest really comes down to the paint job.
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Very new to 40K but I got a bunch of stuff dirt cheap.

Where should I go from here?
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>>50925394

do you want to be a jerk or a cool guy?
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>>50925394

Replace that rhino with another razorback.

There are basically three fits for tacticals: 5-man in razorback, 10-man combat squadded with special/sarge in razorback, or 10-man full in a rhino.
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>>50925355
Also context my dear anon. Look at what I was responding.

Also are we Facebook now? Boobs are scary or somethings?
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>>50925394
Leviathan Dreadnought from Forgeworld.
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>>50925427
you're a dropkick
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>>50925020
The same could be said of Slaanish players, though.
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>>50925394

Great up that dread real good and shove it up your worthless faggot ass.

Nah, I'm just kidding, you're alright.

Do what >>50925419 says though. Razorback everything you can, they're a force multiplier.
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>>50925427
>YOU GUYS MUST SCARED OF BOOBS ROFL GET ALPHA LIKE ME
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>>50925449
>>50925243
This is now a cringe thread?
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>>50925452
he's definitely not alpha

have you ever met anyone ever with gaudy pointlessly oversexualised proxy models that isn't either a massive neckbeard or doing it for the novelty?
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>>50925445

I have never encountered one before, so I wouldn't know.
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>>50924966
>>50925095
>>50925115
like clockwork
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>>50925415

15% jerk, 85% cool guy

>>50925419

Does GW sell a Rhino to Razorback upgrade sprue? I'm thinking of picking up the Armored Assault box with a tactical squad and another Rhino.
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>>50925427

not scary, but they are gross
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>>50925479

no, that would not make them as much money, you might find online with a bitz seller though.
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>>50925394

Are Landspeeders worth the point cost?

Having something that is fast and can run interference seems like it would come in handy.
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>>50925480
Do you hate your body anon? You can tell me I won't laugh.
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>>50924020
All things considered, if you just shave off the tits you have a set of badass huge werewolf models. I'd totally buy those and convert, takes like half a minute to give them a double mastectomy.
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god this thread is dull. wheres the cuck guy? wheres carnac? wheres the magnus baiter?
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>>50925465
Well I'm from South American so tits are not a big deal. People can't tell I'm a latinofags till I speak Spanish. I'm so white that at the beach I'm a bloody beacon for the ships.

One of the things was odd for me was the USA relation with the Body. Also gay parades those where very confusing the first time I saw them.
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>>50925243
Cheescake is fun, but those are just dumb.
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>>50925578
I know, right. I wish I had a sense of humour. Then I could entertain all of us.
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Help, /40kg/, I am in departed need of help.

I'very known this girl for a while now, and she's tasting to get into 40k. I ofeared to help her with everything, and we're playing her first game tomorrow. I like her and I don't know what the fuck to do.

That's my problem, however, what I need help with is whether I bring start collecting skitarii or start collecting IG versus her Tyranids(also start collecting). Whether I get the courage to stop being a fucking beta and ask her out or not, I want her to enjoy playing the game.
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>>50925600
This is dumb

Ther others nah, if anything they can be use as objective markers. Prisoners of War models after all.
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>>50925627
I agree that is more dumb.
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>>50925618
>desperate need of help
>starting to get into 40k

Fuck my autocorrect.
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>>50924020
>>50924830
>>50924842

Plz hurry up and answer. I'm edging like a motherfucker here.
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>>50925618
uh skitarii probably otherwise it's just nids rushing at a gunline

make sure you explain to her all the crazy strengths and weaknesses of skitarii so she doesn't get taken aback.

also
>girl
>nids

I thought people were just shitposting at first but everywhere I see it comes true
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>>50925566

boobs are the 2nd grossest thing humans have, vaginas are the worse
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>>50925618
Your first step is to just take a deep breath and calm the fuck down.

Women can smell your advances coming from a mile away. DO NOT approach them with the intent of fucking them or getting anything out of them like that, treat them as you would a friend you've known for a while. This includes playful banter, a bit of pisstaking and focusing on their enjoyment of the situation.

She wants to play the game, make her enjoy the game but don't throw it for her cause that's just disrespectful, like you're pitying someone. This approach makes you look more comfortable and at ease, which will come across as the all important ingredient in female attraction: CONFIDENCE.

Good luck.
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>>50925671
Also don't be ugly.
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>>50925627
>>50925635
That's dungeon keeper.
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>>50925657
In my years of playing 40k and fantasy across the world.

My break down for girls army is
40k
Tyranids
Sisters of Battle
Imperial Guard
Orks

Fantasy
Bretonia
Wood elves
Skaven
Orks
Empire.
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>>50925684
I might like to add they also had the more tits per models in their models that could have tits.

Slaneesh demon armies rare, but oh boy you could smell the sexual frustration in those models.
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>>50925618

realize she wants to play the game and nothing to do with you, it will just make things easier for you in the long run anon
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>>50925677
You'd be surprised. Most girls don't find me attractive but I've still managed to fuck like 6 girls this year, and two of them have been 8/10 body-wise and they were the ones who asked ME out, the rest 5/10 at worst. I'm an acquired taste because I look Middle Eastern and that's generally not seen as attractive to most, but the way you carry yourself, your clothes and your intentions really give you a good boost.

It makes someone who is "mildly interested" into "Very interested"
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>>50925703

It's gonna be hilarious when he spends all this time and money introducing her to the hobby and she ends up ignoring him and getting her pussy crushed by a Chad who plays Dark Angels
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>>50925684
Agree on the list but add Eldar on the 40k list. My gf had some Wood elves and would like to get Eldar too, though she doesn't like sisters too much (but she does like tyranids).

She'd probably get into IG too if there was a female face or two in the whole model range.
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>>50925729
>DA
>Not Ultras
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OK so I edited a 500pt IG army I asked for feedback on, and got some other help in tweaking it. How is it now?
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>>50925729
chads play space wolves
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>>50925729
>implying chad doesn't play imperial guard.
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>>50925736
>SM
>Not some CSM player with gauges in the ears, snakebites and a chest tattoo
Everywhere I see, these wastes of human protoplasm getting all the kinky petite girls with massive tits.
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>>50925738

HWSes aren't worth it, Lascannon HWSes doubly so. They're BS3 and T3, no invuln so 2W doesn't matter.

The heavy stubber on the LRBT isn't worth it.

What's your gameplan here?
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>>50925738
Get rid of the sponsons and the heavy stubber on the Leman Russ, they're going to be snap firing every turn anyway.

Find points to get a special weapon for the other team, too.

Get rid of the HWS, it's way too expensive, you could get two armoured sentinels with lascannons for that price and still have 5 points to spare for a grenade launcher to the first infantry squad.

Actually, at this point level, maybe a Leman Russ Exterminator with sponsons would fare better for you. Cheaper and more versatile than a battle tank, and you can really get sentinels with lascannons for long range high S shots in case some other fucker brings AV 14 to the table.
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>>50925755
>getting all the dumpster fires*
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New guy from above, can multiple squads get in the same transport?
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>>50925766
Yeah they're a mess but I'll be damned if some of them aren't built for sexual destruction bruh
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R8 my KillTeam
The crisis will have
-Plasma rifle and shield generator
- plasma rifle and flamer
-double fusion blaster
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>>50925769

no
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>>50925769
No, unless the transport specifically says so (there's just one FW super-heavy that does that as far as I know).
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>>50925769

Nope, unless you mean an indepedent character attached to a squad.
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>>50925778
Oh and the Piranha will have a fusion blaster too
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>>50925738
>>50925760

Additionally, 3 LCs at 500 points is probably going to devolve into shooting infantry.

If you must have HWSes hide them in static infantry squads, and give them ACs (which are probably sufficent for what you'll see at 500 points, and the increased rate of fire makes the BS 3 slightly less bad).

Of course, I've been playing MechVets since before "Leaf Blower" was a term so my concept of the Guard may be limited by this.
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>>50925760
On the lascannon HWS, I was told by another anon earlier that I ought to get some better antitank and they specifically mentioned such as squad. Note that I'm pretty new to this so I sort of just took his advice at face value. It seems that feedback so far is stating the opposite though. Thanks for your comment.
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>>50925781
>>50925783
>>50925786
Thanks super dudes
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>>50925778

>The crisis will have

No they won't because you don't have the points.
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>>50925797
What do you mean by this ?
I'm fairly new to KillTeam so please explain
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>>50925791
that was me
>>50925760
it's a 500 point list dude you're not gonna face a lot of s6 that can hit 48 inches away and that isn't going to be shooting at his LR first
as for the list
>>50925738
it's still not legal , an infantry platoon is only 1 troop choice
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>>50925814

You have to pay points for all those upgrades. They don't just come free.
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>>50925820
Ok, so what is your advice ?
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>>50925796
i should clarify as one anon got it wrong
super heavy transports can take as many units as they can fit in the transport capacity unless mentioned otherwise
brb p94
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>>50925818

I'll grant that the the HWSes may be low priority targets but three LCs (especially at BS3) seems like a points sink.

Maybe a static Vet Squad with PG/LC providing cover for a blobbed platoon to move?
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>>50925791
The problem is that a single eldar bike, or another bloke with an autocannon hidden in an infantry squad instead of out in the open, can easily wipe half the HWT off the table and possibly cost you a morale check that you might just fail, thus costing you 100 points, possibly in your first turn, and almost all of your anti-tank.

>>50925818
>it's a 500 point list dude you're not gonna face a lot of s6 that can hit 48 inches away and that isn't going to be shooting at his LR first
Excuse me what? Eldar scatbikes are a thing, multilasers are a thing, autocannons are a thing. All of these options are perfectly viable at 500 points because they're cheap. Have you lived under a rock or what? S6/7 shooting with high RoF and range has been doled out like candy to pretty much every army, that's why HWTs suck, they will never last a turn.

And besides, they're not going to use it to shoot at the LR, it's AV14, they're either going to ignore it or charge it or suicide melta it.
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>>50925833

Either reduce the amount of upgrades on those Crisis suits or start from scratch. Right now you're almost 100pts over budget, and you need at least 4 non-vehicle models for a legal kill team.
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>>50925843
Is it good if I take 2 crisis only ?
And if yes, who do I take ?
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>>50925818
>>50925842
Okay so I need another troop choice anyway. Forget HWSes, a veteran squad then? How should I equip them?
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>>50925854

Here's your kill team. Now go actually read the rules, since you clearly haven't already.
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>>50925840
very true , come to think of it he needs a troop slot anyway , a vet squad with a lascannon would be a great solution
>>50925842
>if he brings scatbikes
anon if an eldar player brings scatbikes to a 500 point game versus a new player he's going to fucking win anyway
i'll grant you the autocannons though
i also forgot he doesn't have a CCS so he can't spam going to ground and get back in the fight for juicy 3+ cover save in ruins and 2+ behind an aegis
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>>50925865
I'd say two meltas in a chimera, but you'll need to shave off some more points, like downgrading your LBT to an exterminator, so you still have an AV 14 something on the field that can threaten pretty much anything at that points level and you might want some better anti-tank and anti-heavy infantry with a delivery vehicle.

Do not leave them on foot if you give them meltas or plasmas, they will die before they make up their points if you do.
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>>50925820

>some armies still have to pay for their upgrades
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>>50925898

In Kill Team, everyone does. You can't pull formation bullshit in Kill Team.
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>>50925878
Thank you Anon ! I'll will apply myself now !
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>>50925888
>anon if an eldar player brings scatbikes to a 500 point game versus a new player he's going to fucking win anyway
Ok scatbikes are a bit excessive but still, multilasers and autocannons are very real and cheap, or their equivalents. Havocs and lootas or scout sentinels will just rape those squads, they're way too expensive for how little they can accomplish anyway, let alone their survivability.

>i also forgot he doesn't have a CCS so he can't spam going to ground and get back in the fight for juicy 3+ cover save in ruins and 2+ behind an aegis
That too: get rid of the Lord Commissar and get a Company Command Squad. Trust me, you save points AND get more models AND actually useful orders.
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>>50925893
>>50925818
Okay, edited it a bit. How about now?
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>>50925898
honestly, this is why AoS is better than 40k.
You can just model your guys with what's cool and not care about equipment costs.
>>
Fall of Cadia wish list

Some bullshit free upgrades and transport formations for SoB, BT, Mechanicus and IG.

That's all. If that is not possible please make Celestin revive indefinitely till she fails a Ld check.

Or maybe something that isn't once per game. Like the rest of the fucking armies.
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>>50925938
Play warmachine then or AoS.

40k is the few popular games that still have costumisation for your dudes
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>>50925958
>40k is the few popular games that still have costumisation for your dudes
>still have costumisation
And yet no one every uses it because "it's not worth the points" and they gotta "optimize their lists"

When's the last time you saw a sargent with a power sword?
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>>50925933
maybe drop the grenade launcher and flamer on the infantry squad and get 2 meltas or 2 plasmas ?
your vox casters are also useless as both the unit issuing the order and the one receiving needs to have one for the re roll
so that's 20 points you can save and then spend on two meltas for the vets
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>>50925943
BT Decurion
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How shit is this killteam.
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>>50925657
Thanks for the insight with the game part. I thought my admech would be a fairer fight, and that IG would just crumble to her flyrant, but I wanted to ask first.

>>50925671
It doesn't help that our mutual friend is pressuring me in to asking her, since I told him I like her, but I'll try to not be the way I usually am.
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>>50925979
All mine have power fists.
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>>50925984
Okay, hopefully this will be the final edit. What do you anons think?
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>>50925979
Last game.

Sorry your local meta are a bunch of waacfags
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So apparently this is Lieutenant Varras of the Imperial Navy. He was in the 4th edition box Battle for Macragge.
Any more information on this guy? Does he have rules?
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>>50926009
Could be worse, certainly looks like a fun team.
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>>50926051

Fleet Officer from IG (or ImpAgn now I guess?).

I love that fig, wish I hadn't lost all my old stuff.
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>>50925979

once a week or so.
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The reason why slaanesh is getting squat.
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>>50926067
I just saw him in an auction. There is a miniscule chance I win the bid for cheap
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>>50926036
That's better. I would drop the meltagun in the CCS to give both infantry squads a flamer or a grenade launcher but that's just me.

Since you're one point short, give the Company Commander or the Veteran Sergeant a boltgun, I mean why not, what else can you do with it.
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>>50926095

That and the crashed Aquila lander from Battle for Macragge are fucking *cash*.
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So this happened.
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>>50926119
>>50926119
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>>50926117
then I may bid more if someone else sees it

>>50926079
Because they tickle Sisters of Battle and lick their feet?
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>>50926119
Multi-Melta and Thunder Hammer?

That looks like the stupid conversions I did as a kid.

I do no regret the rat-flail marine. I regret nothing!
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>>50926127
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>>50926130
>>50926135
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>>50926119
>>50926127
>>50926135

I DISAPPROVE.
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>>50926130
Yeah, who cares about optimisation anyways
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>>50925933
Use a company command squad instead of lord commissar. Give that squad a vox-caster.

Your platoon squad needs a vox-caster if you want it to work with the rest of the platoon. Swap the radio guy from one of your regular squads into the platoon command squad. Both of the regular squads function as one unit when combined into a platoon, so they only need one radio man between the two of them.

Drop the grenade launcher and flamer on your regular platoon. Use the points to give the veterans two meltas. They'll use those weapons better with BS4 rather than regular guys' BS3, and they have a chimera to stay alive in and get close.

Your list now looks like pic related.
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>>50926127
>that moment when your bitch completely shreds your cool
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>>50926154
Waacfags

Sadly those are a thing.
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>>50925783
>No, unless the transport specifically says so (there's just one FW super-heavy that does that as far as I know).
You mean - all super heavy transports can take multiple units.
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>>50925671
Wow actually decent girl advice on /tg/? What the fuck is happening?

he's right though, it's not hard to smell thirst a mile away.

>>50925618
Be careful not to scare her off. I've seen a decent amount of women try to get into tabletop only to be repelled by thirsty betas. Don't try to come on too strong, especially if she's yet to show any actual interest in you. If she's coming to you for help in learning her first game, don't have strings attached. Let her fall in love with the game so you have something that she can relate with with you.

>>50925729
If you see Chad at the tables, make sure to beat his ass and assert dominance.
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>>50926164
Yeah I don't play with superheavies very often. I'm lucky if I play at all lately.
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>>50926164
This is GW their rules are all over the place. With FAQs that go against the rule book and FAQs that go against other FAQs

Or with stream where they ignore the rules from the game and their own scenario ones.

Imperial Agent cluster fuck

No honestly I would not know what are the proper rules for anything today.
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>>50925818
>that was me
You suggested 3 bs3 lascannons that are trivial to kill as effective anti tank?

They need 2-3 turns of shooting to kill anything but are trivial to wipe out in a single turn.

Do you even play this edition?
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What is the name of the second antenna (on the back) ?
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>>50926187
>Do you even play this edition?
More like "even this game". Heavy Weapon Squads have never been good, ever.

Give them Sabre Gun Platform-treatment and make them T6 3+ artillery. There. Fucking fixed. Still are static and cant hit broad side of the barn but at least it takes a bit of shooting to down them.
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>>50926175
Well, I have known her for a while, we do both play MtG as well, and I've gone to a few parties she's been at. I asked my one friend about her and told him how I feel, and he's been telling me to ask her out. So I've been getting myself nervous over this since I tend to overthink everything, especially with women.
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>>50926187

See, that's why I was suggesting a static vet squad with an LC and (maybe) Sentries doctrine and (if they have extra points) some PGs for killing MEQs.

Camp the backfield and shoot shit, have a blob platoon with flamers for your maneuver group.
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>>50926197

Drone Controller.
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>>50926205
And that';s exactly why you should start getting all nervous, lest she clicks on to the fact you're starting to treat her differently. Use your noggin!
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>>50926266
SHOULDN'T get nervous*
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>>50926205

Decide if you're interested in her and do it quickly. If you decide you aren't, don't be a dick and stop talking to her. If you are and she isn't, it's pretty much over.

Lost a few gamer girl friends that way, and missed out on what could have been interesting relationships by not moving when I should have.

Basically, don't be like teen me is what I'm saying.
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>>50926203
Sandbags -10pts. A heavy weapons team with sandbags treats its cover save as 2+ better.
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>>50925022
Its pre order on 7th
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>>50925729
putting my money on this as well
>spend weeks getting slightly comfortable around someone because autismo
>some random dude you know instantly uses you as a mutual friend and starts talking liek a normal human being
evertim
>>50925742
honestly space wolves are more metalheads at my store though they're also the most chaddish
straight up normal dudes play tau
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>>50925
Read
Read lore
Read More lore
Pick a faction you like
Read their lore
If you like it look up their gameplay
Realize how mich it differs Form lore
Cry
If you still want them buy a Start collecting set
Except u want vanilla ("goodguy')eldar
In that case fuck u
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>>50925022

what spoilers could you possibly worry about on /pol/? who won the fucking election?
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New sister leaks when?
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>>50926351

monday
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>>50926351
Fuck me, this is one of the hellish 40k pics i've seen. Imagine being one of those guardsmen.
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>>50926279
Or you will end like me. A lonely guy that pays college girls.

Not worth it, but at least they can pay for their education now
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>>50926381

I only pay college girls when I want a young piece of ass
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>>50926389
I don't do it for that. I'm just a perverted guy that ask them to dress up, do house work and stuff like that.
Help them out with calculus.
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>>50926411
HMMMMMMMMMM
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>>50926380

>getting to charge defiantly into combat after witnessing the emperors divine wrath first hand

If only I could be so lucky!
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>>50926217
>See, that's why I was suggesting a static vet squad with an LC and (maybe) Sentries doctrine
What the fuck is one B4 lascannon supposed to do against anything? You can't kill vehicles like that any more.
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>>50926411

you are a degenerate, at least I use them for what they are intended for
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>>50926380
Not really. Looks desparate but if you look into the background you'll see that tables are getting turned 3-2-1...

Also witnessing a Living Saint is probably holy experience for average pious soldier of the Imperium. There she just is, living manifestation of your god-emperor, smacking up a fucking 5m tall hellish fuck-daemon that could fuck up (literally) a battletank.

I imagine those soldiers would die for her and the emperor. They are probably going to anyway so might as well do it with pride.
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>>50926411
>>50926474

Yeah: Linear Algebra or nothing, bro.
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>>50926186
>No honestly I would not know what are the proper rules for anything today.
In this case you could just check the super heavy vehicle section of the rulebook.
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>>50926486

sadly I am closer to a more liberal artsy school, so not many need math tutoring
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Is it feasible to take down a Stormsurge without a Knight's D-sword as Admech? The local Tau player has one and so far it has literally never died. It just stands in the backfield double-firing all game and erasing my Kataphron Destroyers from existence. It tanked them without taking a wound, so I'm thinking that I just have to run the Knight at it and hope that he doesn't get a D:6. I have got a War Convocation now, as well as some Inquisition stuff for some psykers. Any ideas?
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>>50926507
Absolutely disgusting
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>>50926535
Tank Shock it, if he's anchored and you end your move over the Stormsurge it's removed from the board.
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>>50926535
I usually run my knight towards it. Someties even literally if that would make its charge next turn and/or apply big pressure to tau.

That way Tau/surge has to react to the knight. That way tau also might leave your Kataphrons alone and allow them to shoot the surge/riptides.
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>>50926502
Not taking college girls to public places to teach them calculus. Also they need to wear saifuku, qipao or maid outfit.

I may help them get an education but I'm sure as hell going to enjoy emabrrazing them.
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>>50926578
Thats not a real tactic because:
a) Admech doesnt have tanks
b) You'll never tankshock it. Tankshocking is 100% guarenteed action and surge can just unplug itself turn before its going to happen. Theres no rolling for distances or anything. It can only happen if Surge-player is either taking a risk, allowing it to happen due really needing its double firepower someone else or being a retard.
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>>50925979

Every single sarge of mine has a power weapon. Every single one. Even the Devastators. Fuck you and your WAAC shit.
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ok i pushed away the Crisis
and i replaced it wit XV 25 Stealth
what do you think ?
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>>50926578
True, but my only non-walker vehicle is a Chimera. Not exactly a challenge for Tau to deal with, and will probably die to Death or Glory anyway.
Cool as that would be, Admech really can't pull it off.

>>50926592
So far my plan is to charge the Knight at it and have the rest of the army try to shred the marker drones, seeing as it tanked 18 Grav wounds without losing one, which was a bit irritating. I know that wasn't statistical at ALL, but shit happens.

I hear people say Ruststalkers are good at MC hunting of you can get them into combat, but I can't see why.
Stormsurge is scary but not overly so without the missiles, since I do have Shroudpsalm which would probably eat a lot of markers to eat through.
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The only reason for this list is to Deepstrike Acolytes.

Beside the MSU SoB the rest is a joke army
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>>50926621
>I hear people say Ruststalkers are good at MC hunting of you can get them into combat, but I can't see why.
They are not good against GCs since GCs can usually tank though their initial chargen and then 'stalkers are going to eat shit because of stomps.
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>>50926621
Some math. Full unit of X doing shooting against Stormsurge with rerolls to hit:
Kataphrons (grav): 3
10 Vanguard with 3 plasma and warlord (pref enemy): 4
Knight warden with krak missiles: 2,5.

Good tactic would be @ 1500 is getting an inquisitor. 25pts dude, ld10 for your kataphrons but biggest thing is that Inquisitors always have Warlord trait regardless if they are warlord or not. So one more roll to get that sweet Infiltrate. After that its only matter of getting/stealing first turn and shooting the Surge off the table.
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Hang on a second.

The rulebook states that a Pistol counts a ccw weapon in the assault phase, which is obviously to use in combination with a melee weapon to get an extra attack.
But if you gunslinger that shit does that mean that the model still gets the +1 attack from having two ccw?
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Anyone know if we have "Paperdolls" of all CSM models? Y'know the ones they show colour schemes on in the codex?
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Alright friends, I bought some long fangs last night. What are some good load outs for these cucks?
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>>50926721
Yes.
And CYpher the bad ass gets to use their actual weapon profiles.
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John Blanche just posted this on his fb page. Is there another new Inquisitor to come?
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>>50926621
Prioritizing markerlights is a great way to deal with Tau. Those D-missiles require 2 markerlights to fire at strength D, an additional 2 to be at BS5, and 2 more to ignore cover. If you can elimate his markerlights, you're just facing codex: BS3. Melee wil be the best way to deal with it, especially since it can't stomp while anchored, is WS2 and only has 2 attacks.
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>>50926751
Like Seraphims used to do long time ago.

But they remove it because it made too much sense rules wise and fluff wise.
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>>50926752
>john blanche
ah fuck no
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>>50926752

>All those washes
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>>50926752
Is that Inquisitorial or Ecclesiarchy
version of =I= ?
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>>50926676
Yeah, I kind of guessed that. With the Zealot from the Mask they might do a decent job messing up a Riptide, though, but I don't expect great things from them.

>>50926713
OK, then. Was probably going to have Coteaz since psyker powers are amazing and some good telepathy could really throw him off. Invis on the Knight would really blunt his alpha strike and Psychic Shriek might do a good job too. Anyone know the Ld on Pathfinders and Marker drones?

>>50926772
Wait, they need two to fire D? I thought they just needed one to make them S:D.

Also, D weapons don't ignore cover by default? I thought the stripped all but invulns unless you get a 6.

Can FnP be taken against Strength D 2-5 if you are T6 or higher since it doesn't ID you? If so, the new Magos might be good because rerollable FnP T6.
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>>50926819

Not a fan?
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>>50925394
Regular Tacs can't have a special and heavy weapon unless they are a full 10 man squad.

You should have your codex by the side to double check on weapon options when you use this armybuilder.
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Is ti just me or is it odd that Obliterators/Mutilators, Posessed and Warp talons have the Daemon rule, but gets Marks like mortals instead of Daemonic Alignment?
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>>50926009
I think it's illegal because you have 2 Elite options.
Would still play against though.
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>>50926866
Inquisition its triple crossbar.

Government organs have round icons.
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Trazyn the Infinite is in Fall of Cadia, for all you Necron fans.
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>>50926351
>New GW policy is to only have existing models in the art
>That KoS
>Those Chosen

If the latter comes out I will forgive them for putting Celestine and Cawl into a triple bundle.
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>>50926885
>You should have your codex by the side to double check on weapon options when you use this armybuilder.
>this armybuilder.
They're all unreliable.
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>>50926934
Wait, Cawl isn't separate? How do we know that?
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>>50924589
Mutant werewolves start spawning out of the warp, the Space Wolves want to hang out with them.
> Dark Angels are tools for being paranoid.


Shame about your shitty planet furfag. The Rock needed more fur rugs anyways.
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>>50926919
>genestealer cults have so much faith they auto pass look out sir
>And manifest miracles through psychic powers.
>GSC literally out faith the faction based on faith, SOB

Hopefully the new rules fix this issue.

I'd like to see psychic sisters with their own unique disciplines, instead of the kinda shitty acts of faith we have now.

Either that or interesting acts of faith.
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>>50926966
Can anyone make out the prices?
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>>50926982
A man can dream. GW thinks are gross.

I can only imagen the confusing at GW with the Vyridian sales
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>>50926988
$80 US
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>>50926988
£55, as far as I can tell. Ah well, at least my friend wants some Sisters to go with his Bangels and might split the box with me. Also Greyfax for my Inq.
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>>50926988
Dkk 500, Us 80 can 100
So, yeah 80$
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>>50924611
>>50924611
> we commit treason and war crimes because we are honorable exclamation point unlike those shifty Dark Angels!
Space Wolf players are just mad because they couldn't beat a Dark Angels Army in a thousand years...
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>>50926994
You don't have to imagine!
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>>50926535
you cannot kill a stormsurge, give it up. You need 6 grav destroyers firing two turns to hope to kill it, by that time youre so raped its not even funny. Your knight will get 4 d-shots at bs5+ ignores cover in it first turn, thats a not going to happen.
Dont play against tau without pre-faq drop pods or fortification with escape hatch weirdness (dont ask me how it works but apparently escape hatches wins tournaments)

>>50926578
tank shock with admech how exactly?
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>>50927006
>war crimes
Pot, kettle, Dark Green.
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>>50927004
I can use the Celestine and Greyfax, but I have no use for Cawl. So I guess it's mostly alright.
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>>50926919
YES
YES
YES
sauce ?
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>>50927010
No actually see their faces as they scramble to come to an explanation of its popularity.

Same happen thing happen with GSC and the Mechanicus.

It feels GW is confuse people wanting other things beside Marines
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>>50927006
Always fun to see DA talk of treason.
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>>50927032
Some dude on reddit got a WD. Posted about 12 hours ago about stuff.

Triumvirate of the Imperium - set appears to come with Belisarius Cawl, Inquisitor Greyfax and Saint Celestine + two Sister companions - these are three key characters in the fall of Cadia!

New fall of Cadia Supplement Part 1 - magazine confirms that Cadia will fall, its 'a matter of when' - surprise player in the new Fall of Cadia supplement: Trazyn the Infinite! - Book apparently contains some new formations, etc.
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>>50927027
Yeah, I can almost understand the reasoning for putting Greyfax and Celestine in one box, but the ArchMagos too? Admech players don't often have need of flying golden chicks, although the Inquisitor might be decent.

At least the price isn't TOO exorbitant for all 5 minis, I was worried that was just the Magos for a second.
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>>50927037
Also apparently NOTHING for Black Templars, Necrons are getting shit though.
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>>50927027
if a girl is attracted into admech magos
is she a Cawl-burner ?
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>>50927001
>>50927005
not bad at all 2bh
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>>50927060
CARLOS!

>>50927057
Actual questions and answers from WD guy:

>Anything to do with more traitor legion rules?
>Unsure

>Anything to do with a primarch?
No
>Anything cool for the Black Templars? Are they allied with eldar?
no, no(necrons instead)
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>>50927060
CAWLING IN MY SKIN
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>>50927065
No, not at all, especially if you want the lot. I have no use for the Sisters, but I expect they'll be the ones in high demand, so I can probably trade them or flog them on Ebay. Or maybe keep them as something different to paint or as covenient bits.
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>>50927037
To be fair, GW has released a lot of non loyalist scum Marine products lately. I like the direction this new CEO is taking. He seems responsive to the fans, and actually tries to deliver what people want, instead of overpowered corpse worshipper Marine formation #237
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>>50927032
>>50927046
Here's a pic of the page, look at the yellow box.

For those who are EOP, Trazyn is helping out the Imperium, he knows about the Pylons on Cadia and his releasing parts of his "Imperium" collection.
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>>50927083
can we see an alliance BT, Dark Eldar, CW Eldar and Necron ?
shit would be cash
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>>50927011
Hey, I won't give up because of one overcompensator-class armless robot with a sunroof. I play Admech, that should be my job :)

I am just irritated about how durable that thing is, the FnP and invuln basically give it a 3++. The Warden Gatling might shave off a wound or two, but that's about it.
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>>50927148
Which Primarch does he have, again?
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>>50926919
>>50927148
Huh, I did hear from some GW guys that they wanted to do some more stuff with Trazyn since he was a fun character, but I honestly didn't expect it would be in this way. From the way they worded it I thought it would just be more shortstories or audio dramas.

Kudos to you GW, you cheeky fuckers.
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>>50927150
Toss in the Admech. To see what an Archmagos could pull off with Necron materials would be awesome. Skitarii armoured in Living Metal armour? Hell yes. Cult of the Void Dragon when?
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>>50927148
> tfw when you are french
feels good
also Trazyn will free sme of his "prisoners" to fight Abby
but the real question is, how he will replete his collection ?
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>>50927150
>Black Templars, Dark Eldar, Mechanicus, Ordo Hereticus, and even fucking Necrons are all teaming up on Cadia

How will Abaddon even compete?
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>>50927183
Well that is a very nice looking inquisitor there...
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>>50927183
What's that stuff about the good ArchMagos, O friendly translateanon? Did he go find Trollzyn or something?
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>>50927168
supposedly Vulkan but he has been killed by the beast
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>>50926602

RAIDERS
A
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D
E
R
S
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>>50927183
He better stay away from Celestine.

>>50927206
Perpetual, isn't he?
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>>50927150
I don't think the Craftworld Eldar would be very willing to help out Trazyn. Considering that time he magpied an entire World Spirit Shrine.

I'm sure he could work with the Dark Eldar though.
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>>50927204
the first part will be Bellastarius Cawl versus a ork infested planet, the text also mention deamons but i ain't got the full text so i can't confirm
remind me how much does a WD cost in euros ?
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>>50927190
Well, if Trazyn and Cawl bring their bullshit battleships with them I doubt he can. The Arks Mechanicus are orders of magnitude above the Navy cruisers, and the Necron ships are (sadly) superior to even them without the BS DAoT guns.
I hope we get to see the Admech landing in force, we haven't had much fluff about them fighting alongside the rest of the Imperium yet.
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>>50927240
Oh, excellent. I kind of want to see him go full robo-REEEEE over the heretical xenotech while simultaneously wanting to grab it all and run back to his workshop.
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did they leak any of the BT shit? new terminators? new plastic crusader squads probably? maybe a plastic spartan or something?
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>>50927168
I thought the giant in armor in his collection was Cassiel, from the Deathwatch?
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>>50927240
8 euros according to the webstore.
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>>50927296
ok i might buy a local WD to get all the information you want
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Well since Trazyn is one of the Necron's who have been active the longest (that is if his claim he was acquaintances with Guilliman is true), is it possible that him and Cawl have known each other previously?

Maybe Cawl's mission involved Necron shit rather than Dark Eldar deal like we first assumed.
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>>50925012
Mostly because Raptors Anon didn't stop at *just* catgirls.
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>>50927206
As of the Beast series I think (think, not sure) that Vulkan is in stasis on Nocturne?
But if GW does want to bring back some of the Loyalist Primarchs then Trazyn would be a good way to let that happen
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>>50927347
Finally some paint. Wonder if he ever release the list of parts.
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>>50927347
Raptors anon is a hero and snek girl operator a cute, cute!
CUTE!
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>>50927347
How horrifying. Is the missing arm just an incomplete model or does raptor anon have an amputee fetish too?
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Been working on my snakebites, I built some tankbustas and a Looted rhino recently and want to try painting/buying something else besides ork boyz.
And conversion ideas or suggestions?
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Speaking of possible Primarchs in this event, I remember seeing one guy theorize that the Dark Eldar dude was actually the Khan. He does seem to be larger than the Space Marines in the picture, and it wouldn't be crazy for him to be wearing Dark Eldar gear since he's supposedly been on Commoragh for so long.
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>>50927173
Fighting necrons seriously has to be the most unsatisfying thing in 40K.

>Fight literally anyone else.
>Feel the impact of steel on flesh and the blood spilling everywhere.
>Fight necrons.
>CLANG CLANG CLANG
>No yells, no gestures, no blood.
>Welp, at least we're done no- OH COME ON WHY CAN'T YOU FUCKERS JUST STAY DEAD
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>>50923800
Fuck the Lion
>>50927543
Vulkan lives bit he's late
>>50927543
Glorious Guilliman coming soomn
>>50927543
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>>50923926
My nigga right here.
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>>50925201
>>50925210
I like the second one better, but they both look fun (I'm a total noob though, so take my opinion with a grain of salt)
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>>50927539
Shooting daemons is worst because after you win they just disappear and make you feel like you are just an schizophrenic guy shooting to your invisible enemies.
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>>50926879
yeah
i get that looking over the top weird is kind off the point of his work but i don't like it
it translates even worse into mini's
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>>50927528
The Khan is fighting in the web way with the other disappeared primarchs trying to save the Emperor's project and give humanity a shot in the future.
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>>50927486
>Goblin Green bases

WHAT YEAR IS IT
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>>50926871
My bad, it is 1 per missile. D weapons do not ignore cover by default. FnP can be taken as on T6 and above, even against 6s, as if you read the rules, it is not a save-it is rolled for each unsaved wound, and successes are treated as saved. The latest faq confirms this.
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>>50928016
Oh, hell yes. 55% chance to tank a D-table 6, even if he has no invuln at all. Also my Kastelans also have a 33%, which is nice. I forgot about that. Knight's still fucked, but the new Magos will be a godsend.

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