Goblin Slayer

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>>50919697
This comic fucking sucks. It's all edgy rape and murder and the protagonist seems like a self-insert who exists solely to gratify the author's ego by being oh so clever at hunting subhuman retards in a cave. "DURR DID YOU KNOW THAT A LONGSWORD IS A BAD IDEA IN CLOSE QUARTERS, HURR"

Whoa, no shit, tell me more Goblin Slayer man.

Worldbuilding still sucks and everyone is retarded except Goblin Slayer. Well at least his companions seem to be competent.

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Done. Wait a month to find out what the scroll does or crossboard on /a/ for spoilers.

>>50919697
Is this worth a shit? It just seems kinda naff.
Oh there's some goblins and some rape and this dude in armor what kills goblins and doesn't afraid of anything.

Am I missing something (this is the only chapter I've ever read) or what?

>>50920414
>Am I missing something
Nope, it's exactly what you described.

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>>50919880
RIP AND TEAR

>>50919697
Can I get sauce on the scanlation?

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>>50920414
Pretty spot on. Read if you like reading about goblin slaying tactics and seeing the people who don't equip properly for goblins die/get raped. Especially those who don't use proper gear.

>>50920616
>Read if you like reading about goblin slaying tactics
>Title of manga is Goblin Slayer

I don't know why I find this so funny.

>>50919850
>"DURR DID YOU KNOW THAT A LONGSWORD IS A BAD IDEA IN CLOSE QUARTERS, HURR"
This. Author thinks he is smartass but don't understand that warrior can carry several weapons with different reach.

>>50920825
Wasn't that kind of the point though? The party went up into a goblin nest without proper preparations and got fucked.

>>50919697
Before I read this, how much rape is there?

>>50920825
>DID YOU ALSO KNOW THAT A HELMET PROTECTS YOU?
>LET ME DEMONSTRATE THIS BY HEROES GETTING RAPED
This is probably one of the dumbest points, GS demonstrates that good protection works, yet you barely see anyone else wearing it, be it rookies that get destroyed or the heroes above his level.

>>50920901
There's usually a rape victim every 2 chapters or so. It'll lessen from now on I believe though.

>>50920922
Disappointing.

>>50920141
You got to be shitting me

>>50920141
Have they made any use of magic scrolls previously, that might give some clue as to what it might be? Or is it going to be something that comes out of nowhere?

Because it would be pretty cheap if it comes out of nowhere, The guy's supposed to be this edgy pragmatist who knows how grim and gritty it "really" is to fight goblins and uses down-to-earth "realistic" tactics that inexperienced idealists wouldn't think about, so it wouldn't fit very well if he also had a magic scroll that can do whatever fancy magical effect he needs to get out of this situation.

>>50920616

The problem is that Goblin Slayer plays be really fucking stupid double standards.

So, like, everything plays by JRPG rules on the surface. Class systems, magic name attacks, enemy types, armor... all of it screams generic JRPG fantasy setting.

And then the author wants us to take him seriously when he pulls stuff like "Ha ha, look at these named characters not wearing helmets so you can see their face. They are so easy to kill! lol, aren't they dumb for wearing such impractical armor?"

Which is only smart if you are fucking shit tier pleb who takes the 'twist' at face value.

What it REALLY does is create the plot hole in the authors own setting of "if this armor is so fucking impractical and shitty, how is there an entire manufacturing economy that mass produces this stuff such that all these adventurers keep getting their hands on it? And how has no one figured out that heads are a vulnerable part of the body before now if all of the enemies do nothing but cheap shot the skull?"

Its like the entire world used to operate by different rules and, as soon as the story starts, suddenly all of the tropes stopped working and everything became gritty and realistic, and none of the characters have learned the new rules yet because last week this wasn't how the world worked.

It just the most garbage, bottom tier of power fantasy: the MC is stronk not because he is anything special, but because the entire rest of the world has been written to be inexplicably and illogically inept.

>>50921146
It's okay, it was mentioned in one previous chapter that he got this "I win"-scroll.

>>50921146
I could just be something like Reflect. Simple anti-mage stuff, especially in JRPGs. If the goblin is casting fire it might even impede it's regenerating abilities.

>>50921373

Yeah, but Goblin Slayer isn't any kind of magic class.

I too am betting that its a Reflect spell of some kind, but the thing is this shouldn't be NEW. Any scroll that GS can use should be something that literally anyone else can use too.

If I was a martial in a setting full of bullshit casters, a scroll of reflect would be wrapped around my scabbard at all times for each of access. Because why wouldn't I? Its like playing Overwatch: Genji beats Bastion with his own bullets. The counter is so hard, so easy, and so reliably effective its almost unfair.

>>50921146
For what it's worth, it was mentioned before he saved quite a lot to purchase it and even showed enough humility to ask Sorceress for help in how to use it - iirc, he was saving it for the "hero" goblins, the goblin lords and goblin champions, that are each strong enough to give even powerful adventurers like him trouble.

As for what it does, I won't say, but keep in mind what he purchased it for in the first place.

Him showing that humility was actually the most crucial part of that scene, not the scroll. That will matter much sooner in the story than scrolls do.

>>50921211
Yep, basically everyone is retarded except him. The whole world seems to be build around showing us how cool GS is, despite him supposedly being a mediocre hero.

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>>50921447
Scrolls are extremely expensive and one-use only. You don't just "tie it to your scabbard."

>Any scroll that GS can use should be something that literally anyone else can use too.
Probably not. GS needed help from Sorceress to learn how to use it. Also, pic related does not give me the impression that everyone just happens to have easy access to them.

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>>50921526

but seriously

why isn't there more rape? how am i meant to fap to this shit

>>50921211
I disagree with your razor sharp analysis. Every race but humans fully appreciates the threat of goblins in the setting - there is a reason they each sent out a representative to find an expert on goblin extermination, and each of them have a special name for this one man who has the tenacity and resolve to learn so much about the menace. More importantly, this isn't a case of "only he knows about goblins," either. The scenes with Sorceress shows that she and other high level adventurers understand the threat, but - like Archer - they are concerned with the greater threats more appropriate for their power, like the demons. An unchecked goblin infestation might destroy a village after a couple of weeks, but an unchecked demon will destroy several towns or a major city in the same time. It is only the inexperienced recruits with the human "common knowledge" and guild propaganda that underestimates goblins. The guild representative even told the first-chapter scrubs to wait for a stronger, higher-ranked party member to hunt the goblins, only for them to ignore her and die.

Lastly, your entire post and example applies only to the total newbie party and not anyone else in the setting. In fact, the helmet thing was only used as a gag in the campfire scene, not an example of his badassery. The MC isn't "stronk" either. He's an expert at killing goblins and goblins only. This chapter is the first the readers see what the rest of the people his rank are facing daily, and he got thrashed instantly. Archer's comment about his shitty sword (and literally so, as it is a weapon he took from a goblin, like always) comes into play as he cannot do a thing with it against a low tier demon like an ogre.

There isn't a single "named" character (Sorceress, Lancer, Archer, Shaman, Priest, Priestess, Representative, etc.) that fits your view of the story.

>>50921211
Keep in mind the other important part of the whole "only he takes goblins seriously" plot. It's not that he's the only one that can defeat weak enemies like goblins, it's that he's the only person who is dedicated to completely exterminating them, not stopping at any point until they are completely eradicated.

Most parties would be capable of fighting off goblins, and that's probably what most quests are, something like "goblins attacked, please fight them off" and then the party will go out and kill or fight off enough of the goblins that it seems safe. Goblins Slayer doesn't just fight them off or complete the terms of the quest. He hunts down every last one, he goes into the next and kills everything.

The whole "not taken seriously" part of goblins isn't just that they're surprisingly dangerous if you're taken by surprise, it's that most adventurers don't really bother going all the way. They just end the present danger and ignore that unless you exterminate every last goblin involved then they'll just be back in a little while, and you'll have ultimately done very little good.

The whole point of him being ultra serious about tactics and equipment isn't that "anyone not wearing a helmet is dead" it's that even if there's a .001% chance of it being disadvantageous, then the true danger of goblins (sheer numbers and bad luck) can come into play.

Most people probably don't need helmets because with stronger monsters, it wouldn't make a difference.

>>50919850
>"DURR DID YOU KNOW THAT A LONGSWORD IS A BAD IDEA IN CLOSE QUARTERS, HURR"

Have people really never heard of half swording? Or just fucking stabbing?

>>50920914
The only heroes above his level are magical, and Ms. Hero who is literally a Mary Sue who could probably just let an Orge wail on her till it dies of exhaustion.

>>50922337
I should preface above his level. I mean the ones we see in the story.
There are other martial classes of bullshit levels, but we don't really see them. Only Ms. Hero who can fight naked.

>>50920616
Those girls were too cute to die ;_;

Read through it just now. Kind of liked it, though I did go in knowing how single minded he is.

Goblin Slayer is great.

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>>50922056

This. /tg/ is pretty damn snobbish about this manga and I don't get why. No, its not high literature and yes there are much better fantasy stories in the Manga medium, but its a neat entry and its not nearly as edgy as people pretend it is just because it has a couple of pretty fucking low-level rape scenes that aren't even in the majority of chapters.

Given the current state of fantasy fiction in Japan, Goblin Slayer is a fucking desperately needed breath of fresh air in terms of how much it tones down the protagonists power wank and the not-strictly necessary rape. They're as expected as porn scenes are in Visual Novels these days, you probably can't get published without them, and it uses them relatively sparingly so they still have some impact, which already puts it head and shoulders above most current stuff. It also at least has me moderately interested in the Priestess character by setting up that a big part of the story is going to be her evolution into a pragmatist via GS's mentorship, and how much of herself she's going to be able to keep in that process. One worthwhile hook is more than most of the trash we see in this genre nowadays.

IMO the worst real complaint you can level as GS is that under the trappings of "maturity," its an entry level work. There's nothing wrong with entry level, plebs gotta start somewhere.

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>>50919697
Why do people get so worked up about this manga? If you don't find it fun to read, then wouldn't it be better to spend the time reading something you do enjoy.

Seeing all the different ways that Goblin Slayer kills gobs is fun. I hope we get back to that soon.

>>50923240
The LN is far superior than the manga.
The translated one that is.
It explain a lots of world-building details that the manga can't do.

According to /a/ Goblin Slayers setting is literally a tabletop RPG played between the two gods of the setting. Reality is the GM. Fantasy is the player. Her PC is the priestess and other more important people in the setting. Whenever the gods roll they influence the actions of mortals and the events of the world. So, there's still place for free will.

The plotline of their game is not really concerned with Goblin Slayer and his life. In fact, he's not the main character. He is an NPC.

An NPC with ridiculously specualized anti goblin stats. This means that Goblins DO NOT GET TO ROLL AGAINST HIM.

That's where the line "he doesn't let anyone roll the dice" from the first chapter comes from.

His actions already interfered with the GMs plans once because of this ridiculous property. So he ignores him as much as possible.

So the story will be about these big world changing events in the background that Goblin Slayer is not involved in because no Goblins and because he's not the MC of the game. Meanwhile, the story instead focuses on Goblin Slayer and his party trying to heal his mental damage.

>>50924910
Also the author straight up says he's a traditional gamer.

>>50922474
>Those girls were too cute to die ;_;
Almost, but Goblin Slayer's seems to be a world where it only takes one mistake (like not wearing a helmet) to catch a really, really bad case of dead.

>>50925182
Like Rolemaster or GURPS level of deadly play.

>>50924479
It's a big case of "waaaa, stop liking what I don't like! >;("

>>50919857
GS tsundere for the priestess when?

>>50925319
>It's a big case of "waaaa, stop liking what I don't like! >;("
Aggravated by shits like you going "waaaa, stop disliking what I like! >;("

>>50924479
>Why do people get so worked up about this manga?
This is what you get for really obnoxious fans.

Read the LN. The manga is good, but the LN goes into detail a lot more and explains things better.

Theres more about how people see goblins as a non-threat and underprepare ("please start with rats in the sewer! Goblins? No you really arent ready- oh..okay..."), better insight into characters' motivations, and while Im sure people want to see cute girls get raped, just how its handled in the LN I think did better. Its more about letting you know bad shit is happening without saying what, rather than outright saying "this girl is getting railed by green dick".

And of course theres the world building that is damnnear completely skipped by the manga.

Manga is fine.
LN is great.

Combine them in your head for a solid experience.

>>50925420
>WAAAAAAAAAH!!

Thanks for the storytime, OP.

>>50925420
>No U

>>50925182
If monsters like goblins existed, and were considered as weak and smart as children, while greater threats like dragons existed, mistakes would most likely be made when encountering them and in such situations, 1 mistake will cost you.

The LN hammers it home. Yes, something with the intelligence and strength of a child isnt a threat. Surely a kid isnt anything to worry about. But what if theres 10 of them, and they all have dangerous weapons and have surrounded you in a cramped passage, and these kids are pure evil and full of murderous aggression?

Unless youre very well trained or prepared, the 10 crazy killer children will kill you. Even if you manage to kill some of them in the process, you will lose.

>>50925560
>small spiteful little shit can kill you easily if you are unaware or underestimating them.
Chuck the killer doll series of movies really hammer that point home.

>>50925574
>>50925560
There was a movie about this, where an island resort happened where all the children became psychopaths. The adults all died because they underestimated what 40 psychopathic children who cooperated could manage.

Even at the end of the movie, the surviving adult was shot by the 'rescue group' because he was about to kill the child who had killed his pregnant wife not five minutes before.

>>50925420
Haha, stupid faggot. I never said they couldn't dislike it. Just that their autistic shriekings weren't appreciated :)

>>50925522
Is the LN translated yet? I can only find a blog called sinistertranslations

>>50925733
Its currently available in english at many bookstores.

Bought mine at booksamillion and saw a copy at barnes and nobles in the mall.

>>50925522
The issue I have with it is that goblins really don't seem like an issue but have huge writers fait

>>50925522
>And of course theres the world building that is damnnear completely skipped by the manga.
That would probably solve my main problem with this manga. Things like the demon army are so far away, they might even be a lie for the army not doing shit.

board pshychologist tell me why do I pop a stiffy to hard rape doujins but story related rape gets me sad?

>>50921146
The entire series is heavily based on DnD mechanics. Scrolls can contain any spell and those spells are as varied as in DnD. Obviously scrolls containing powerful spells are very expensive, this particular scroll was made for Goblin Slayer by a powerful mage and is stated to contain a powerful spell.

So while they've never been used before in the series the existence of them has been established as has how they are made and how the character happens to possess this particular scroll.

>>50926253
> asking 4chan for anything medical

>>50926365
>they burned the wizard, used ranger as arrow practice, shoved intestines in their healer's mouth to keep her from biting her tongue off, and made warrior watch as she begged them to use her instead (honorable knight who can't stand the thought of her friends suffering). They finally raped her for days and threw the broken body into the river

I'm starting to like these little buggers.

I know its for views and all but goblin needing humans to breed is damn stupid, and the fact they dong get any traits from mother is even more stupid.
I get that japs love rapy stuf, but at least little bit of sence woudnt hurt.

In a world with monsters and shit one race that steal your breeders and make more monster out of them woudnt be considered pest it would be major extermination target.

>>50925530
>Oh no, someone didn't fall for my strawman tears!
>I'd better cry more of them! That's SURE to make them stop not liking thing!

>>50921447

What are you on about? GS is a silver ranked adventurer. That puts him in the top 10% of adventurers in the world despite him specifically targeting gobbos.

He was also part of a party that killed a Demon Lord as well frequently kills Goblin heroes who are on par with human heroes.

He's not a chump. He just gets paid next to nothing because goblins aren't seen as a major threat by upper echelons of the world despite being the bulk of the threat.

If every goblin base had a shaman or Hobgobby then they'd be be praising the fuck out of him since those are above most rank and file adventurers.

It's basically a case of being an exterminator.

Someone who kills wild boars and cougars gets paid more because the threat to a person is more impressive.

Someone who wipes out hives of rats next to a farm is less impressive.

The rats are more likely to ruin their local vicinity and expand faster than the other 2 and are capable of killing humans just as much as the others if they are unprepared but due to the ease of killing them when prepared they aren't worth as much.

That's the logic Goblin Slayer works on.

Goblins are weak as shit but are underestimated. This means most people overlook the work because it barely pays the costs.

Goblin Slayer is just ultra autistic about his targets.

>>50924433
Oh, it only has a "couple of rapes" huh, that's not edgy at all! And they're only "low-level" rapes? Well, then I guess it's practically child friendly!

Pfft, god, it's always amusing how affronted fans of mediocre trash get when you call it what it is. And their delusional attempts at defending it are just so cute.

>>50926333

The mage didn't make the scroll. They outright state that magical scrolls are precursor levels of shit and the spells are forgotten.

Chances are that the scroll is just a spell she had to identify for him so he knew what he had.

>>50925589
Man, sounds like that screenwriter/director has some really deep resentment towards his kids.

>>50926529
I still hold that exterminators and garbage men do far, far more for public health than any other professions

>>50926724
That's why those are actually well paying jobs.

>>50926580
It way more amusing to watch neets hate somthing someone enjoy with such passion yet scream at the top of their lungs how they dont care.
Your bitching dont make any diffrence, I still will read that cuz I think its somehow newish take on whole adventure theme.
C`mon entertain me more, I brought snacks.

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>>50926703
>I can't tell fantasy from reality
Here's your red dots.

>>50919697
Can someone link me to the rape scenes specifically? I'm curious to what 'low level rape' would be.

>>50922113
>nips
>knowing how to use straight swords

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>>50926987
I'm sad I'm not going to be able to use this image anymore.

>>50919850
Yeah but that was the point. They were noob adventures ala "Hey let's do our first quests. They are just gobs after all" without putting more thought into it.

>>50919697
Stop spamming this shit on /tg/ please.

>>50926987

Someone has obviously never had the terror that is children.

>>50924479
Tg got trigger by the rape because there are a bunch or tumblerinas here.

>>50927221
I second this

>>50919850
>Not understanding the concept of the manga but it sucks.
Common shitlord try to understand

I feel like everything goblin slayers does could be done trivially easily by just dark soulsing it.

>>50921496
There's people on /a/ who complain about gobs being more retarded whenever the protagonist is on the scene.
>>50921562
You've basically described the majority on /a/.

>>50927882
You can tell this guy is a newfag by lack of taste, lack of slashes, and /pol/ tribalism.

>>50922113
But anon, this manga is basically a D&D game gone weird. It's doubtful if the rules are consistent, the main character seems to have a Armor of Enemies Become Stupid + 1 & I doubt the average guy here even knows of them.

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>>50927882
>Tg

>>50928165
>There's people on /a/ who complain about gobs being more retarded whenever the protagonist is on the scene.
But that's right.

>>50928199
Or he's an unreliable narrator and is so powerful that their tactics are, to him, retarded.

>>50921897
>Sorceress, Lancer, Archer, Shaman, Priest, Priestess, Representative, etc.
Much of them wear some pretty fantasy-esque armor & that's not even counting how the Elf acts as though she hasn't been face-to-face with any corpses before. Girl made silver but I don't know how.

>>50924433
>tones down the protagonists power wank and the not-strictly necessary rape
Closer to making it more subtle. Some guys complained that Goblin Slayer's enemies occasionally forget any tactics & zerg rush or somehow don't target the priestess.

>>50928274
The big goblin in the first few chapters apparently has greater physical strength than he does. He's closer to Batman than Superman.

>>50928400
Elf doesn't act at all like some hundreds of years old being.

>>50928552
Some on /a/ think she's either spent all day sheltered & training, only took jobs which keep her far from harm, or some form of nepotism from a high ranking relative happened.

>>50928250
A rightful complaint is still a complaint.

>>50920058
>>50920072
>Ye most powerful and extraordinary manpurse

It's only failing is that it isn't a fanny pack yet.

>>50928152
>by just dark soulsing it.
He is dark souls-ing it though. Thats why he is doing well as opposed to the other guys who are doing standard dragon quest/final fantasy JRPG shit in a dank souls world

>>50927221
I mean seriously, I dont want to have to torrent a whole shitty manga just out of morbid/lewd curiosity.

>>50929721
He isn't doing a very good job of it if tight corridors keep him from using his +10 greatsword

>>50930190
He really should be using a winged spear but I'm guessing there's tight corners and low ceilings.

>>50930502
Fuck spears, big swords are the true path.

>>50925522
LN?

>>50931121
Light novel
you are welcome

>>50929721
The most successful one there is more of the JRPG kind though.

>>50926253
Actual therapy would take three forty-minute sessions at least to make a decent hypothesis on anything.

Meanwhile the therapist is already paying the loans on her overpriced career with your shekels.

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>>50927882

GS is pretty retarded. It is like a reverse Goblins.

Instead of IM SAD, you have IM EDGE.

The dinosaur necromancer is cool though. Remindsme of the Slann from Warhammer. RIP Lizardmen, you guys were cool.

>>50926387
Welp, that's pretty morbid and i've jerked it to worse than that.

>>50925733
First volume is at my local Barnes and Noble.

I actually read it today. Pretty short, it's only like 220 pages. It's a lot better than the manga.

>>50935250
What does it do better?

>>50926597
>deckard cain what is in this scroll

>>50935333
See >>50925522

Also, the scroll in this chapter? It was a gate spell. GS paid the sorcerer to link it to the bottom of the ocean. When he activates it, a torrent of high-pressure water tears the ogre in half.

>>50919712

You can literally see him thinking "Fuck, my Favored Enemy bonus doesn't work here."

>>50921146

Actually, in the previous chapters, there are several scenes which state that Goblin Slayer has prepared a scroll. Like, you literally have his party members going "What's that?" and he says "This is just in case."

>>50921211

It's OSR.

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>>50919712

>"You're not a goblin."

Why is this manga so fucking perfect.

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>>50921211
So many manga have good concepts but atrocious execution. Attack on Titan... this... Fire Punch

>>50928400
Archer is not world-wise (as is obvious from her bants with Shaman), but her skills are top notch. I don't know what her history is, but she's clearly fought goblins before - even recommending they attack at dawn instead of evening as she knows the goblins will be active soon, yet defers to Goblin Slayer because he is, after all, the expert she sought out for the task. She also likely only killed goblins by shooting them and never followed them into their den to exterminate them, seen by her ignorance of a lot of the intricacies of total extermination. From her comments in the hiring scene, it's apparent too that elves usually send in large forces to totally exterminate goblins, not just one or two high ranks, but because of politics they had to settle on just a small party. Notice her stunned realization in the previous chapter that GS has done this work before by himself. That couples with her earlier remark about an elvish extermination force looking like an army invasion to the humans.

>acts as though she hasn't been face-to-face with any corpses before
She's only visually shaken when she has to smear herself with blood (as a gag reel), and then when she sees the raped elf prisoner. In the "kill them in their sleep" scene, it shows she's inexperienced with that kind of work (and impressed with GS), but there is literally nothing there suggestive of "never been face-to-face with any corpses before."

>Much of them wear some pretty fantasy-esque armor
And none of them fall to impractical "no helmet" syndrome or the other "realism" pitfalls the previous poster claimed everyone but GS do. They operate just fine in "the rules of the story." Their armor clearly works.

>>50936354
Fire punch has legitimately improved though. It's still silly but we removed the angst and replaced it with a well rounded cast and characterization for Agni.

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>>50936588
Your post makes too much sense.
I'm just gonna goby the notion that whoever drew/wrote this liked to show women being subjected to impactful consequences.

>>50934082
GW did away with Lizardmen? But they were cool!

>>50921211
>Its like the entire world used to operate by different rules
>none of the characters have learned the new rules yet because last week this wasn't how the world worked.

You are actually right. Off-screen some evil gods are buffing goblins and giving them capable leaders. The guild hasn't caught up to this yet, but the increasing threat from the goblins has a few people raising questions. GS is hopelessly unprepared for anything other than goblins, if he was alone on this mission, he would have died.

>>50936588
>And none of them fall to impractical "no helmet" syndrome or the other "realism" pitfalls the previous poster claimed everyone but GS do
Someone get that hero girl who slayed the demon King.

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>>50920141
I know exactly what's on that scroll.
>Goblins are dumb

>>50939443
ur a faget

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>>50927882
>He doesn't remember drow spider vaginas or the rape factory
Go back to /pol/ newfag.

>>50926253
you don't see the people in doujins as people, they're just there to get you off. Meanwhile, characters with goals and personalities beyond the 2 page introduction before they get raped make you feel a connection with them.

or you're a sicko, I don't know. I'm a random guy on a Tibetan ice fishing message board

>>50936185
I can just imagine GS's player being like -
"Jim, you said this quest was about killing goblins. My entire character is based around killing goblins. That is his character. Why is this motherfucker not a goblin?"

And then the GM leans over the table and says -
"Because you killed the previous two bosses within three rounds, and ruined the giant fight for everyone."

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I didn't even know this board existed.

>>50939840
You have entered a magical place.

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>>50939840
Welcome to /tg/ enjoy your stay and complementary edition wars.

Am I the only one who only reads for the rape?

>>50939840
Welcome to /tg/, where everything is a magical realm and roleplay doesn't matter.

>>50921897
>>50936588
Pretty spot on. I'm 5th world country and can't even type english properly, so I can never reply to post like what you replied to.

I'm so glad you exist in this thread.

>>50940082
No better place to train your English than on anonymous image board son.

Get writing.

>>50924859

Can you enlighten us more on this?

>>50924433
Maybe the issue isnt really the missing "mature" aspect of the story but rather the conversative mentally of LN writer to be tied down with jrpg esque make this mang hard to be taken seriously while it strive to be "mature" as how the readers are perceiving it. From the guild system, to the waifu material and the super anime reaction turns off /tg/ immediately. It's necessarily bad, but it's a tradintionalist writting that doesnt hold substance of originality.

>>50941304
Manga* not necessarily bad*

>>50941304
Conservative

>>50921146

It's a scroll of "Player-tier Magic Abuse Of Spells that rely on physics that are not statted in the system"

>>50939851
>>50939923

I don't see it full of piss trees from the whizzard.

Intresting, just finished the manga. Is there more manga or LN or ever western novels where adventures are horribly trahsed by low level mobs?

>>50925400
Never, he is too insane for romance, that is why his "harem" is so desperate to cure his madness. Instead of fighting over his D, each girl focus in healing a particular part of his psychology.
>Priestess wants to make him more sociable, she teaches him how talk and tries to take him to social events.
>Elf wants him to enjoy abreal adventure instead of killing gobs all the fucking day, she tries to take him to cool places.
>Guild Girl wants him to be proud of his rank and stop saying edgy shit like pic related, she tries to make him take a non gob quest every once in a while
>Cow girl wants him to just enjoy a normal chilling life at the farm, she wants to say "sorry" for fighting with him that day went they were kids

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>>50942036
Forgot pic.

>>50919712
Always classy

>>50919712

I just love how he's like:

> "Awwww shit"
> "It's the giga nigga."

The only LN translation I found stops athe first 3 manga chapters.

The amazon sells only paperback.

Where do I find a complete ebook-pdf?

>>50942239

The ebook-pdf can be found quite easily. Google it.

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>>50942207

Speaking of, anyone got that transcript of the two first chapters turned into a D&D session with a ThatDM

>>50942311
/a/ should have it, there is a thread right now, go ask them, copy it and come back.

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>>50942438

>going to /a/

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>>50942482

I think we'll manage

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>>50927882

Stop being triggered by criticism to things you like, you goddamn nancy boy

>>50942482
Keep the thread bumped and I can dump it in 4 or so hours when I get off mobile.

>>50926442
Bombadier Beetles, bro.

>>50928400
>>50928552
>>50928610
Elf emerged only 'recently' from the forest. LN makes it clear that she's faced other kinds of threats that behave in a rational manner. Manticores, dragons, even slimes have rational reasons for doing what they do but Goblins do it for the evulz.

This is what's really upsetting for Elf Ranger because doing guild quests was about seeing cool shit in varied locales, but Goblins are all nasty shits doing nasty shit. Her horror realization grows as she realizes that GS repeatedly faces this ugly, unchanging evil days and evenings in cramped locations without a break and it's anathema to her whole motivation for being an adventurer.

>>50943270
And that is why she promises to drag GS out of that shit and show him real adventures.

>>50943270
Does the LN state how old she is?

>>50943320
Yeah, 2000 years, like the manga.

>>50943328
Yep, it's retarded, she doesn't act at all like a 2000 years old being. I'm talking about her general behavior, her reaction to the rapes was appropriate.

>>50943360
2000 years is like 20 years for a elf.

>>50943440
Please, we are on /tg/ here, not /a/. You can't say such retarded things about fantasy on this board.

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>>50943449

>>50942058
>>50942036
>emphazising with your enemy
>edgy shit

>>50943636
I love this picture because the NoP is astronomically wrong.
and the irony it is trying to compose is thrown so far off by that

>>50943270
post the LN already.

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>>50919850
The worst part is every single teacher the noob adventurers have, and the adventuring guild quest-assigner lady, do not tell them that actually they live in a grimdark world and people die all the time at these things. That is, their teachers fail to prepare them, so later the author can go "whoops actually this is edgeland" as a twist.

All those noob adventurers in chapter 1 were formally trained, remember.

Anyways then he goes and has goblin slayerman do dumb anime maneuvers, but it works because he's the protagonist. I guess that makes it good pandering for the crowd here, but it's terrible writing. I'd rather go to GARO or something for my daily dose of edge.

>>50944131
That's the weird thing. One of them is the graduate of some magic university, another has been trained by a parent their whole life, etc. If anything, I find it's more likely that GS, a solo raider without formal training, dies in his early days then a party. Reading this manga, I'm under the impression GS uses dice with only 20s written on the sides.

>>50944131
Because their teachers have the same blind spot as everyone else. Gobbos are something that adventurers only do as a babbys first adventure, and those who are successful are usually successful because two or three adventurer parties have been wiped out trying to deal with the threat. The successful party is like GG EZ and promptly move on to other things. This consistently leaves no experienced gobbo extermination groups around.

Silver Adventurers with enough self-awareness about gobbos will acknowledge that gobbos are pathetic enough that 99 times out of a 100 that they'd wipe the floor with all the extermination quests, but the shits are so inventive and evil that there's always that 1 in a hundred chance of getting unlucky. If they're gonna gamble with their lives, they may as well gamble it against a dragon. The chances they have against dragons are maybe equal to what a Porcelain rank adventurer has against gobbos so it all evens out.

>>50944454
>promptly move on to other things
And these other things never attack the head? Wearing a helmet can't be an anti-goblin thing, it should be universal common sense, at least for everyone fighting in melee.

>>50944454
>Because their teachers have the same blind spot as everyone else.
How does this happen? I'm curious how various different teachers of various different backgrounds, some guaranteed to have combat experience, can coincidentally have the same hole in their defences.
>This consistently leaves no experienced gobbo extermination groups around.
Compared to dealing with other threats? I get the feeling that someone who butchers Carnifexes & Hive Tyrants casually will definitely have an edge over a group of Termagaunts, even if they've somehow only fought Hive Tyrants previously. People tend to ignore gobs because the goblin extermination quests have pitiful rewards, not because of any perceived threat. Goblin Slayer's an exception because he has a massive hateboner for them & exclusively them.
>Silver Adventurers with enough self-awareness about gobbos will acknowledge that gobbos are pathetic enough that 99 times out of a 100 that they'd wipe the floor with all the extermination quests, but the shits are so inventive and evil that there's always that 1 in a hundred chance of getting unlucky.
Actually, it's because gob quests pay shit & they think it's not worth the effort. It's not due to risks, it's due to the paycheck at the end of the month.

>>50944441
A level one wizard with maybe three casts of fireball without any briefing on how to conserve spell uses while operating as part of a small unit within tight quarters. This shit isn't being part of magic artillery behind spear squares on the open battlefield or behind fortress walls.

Being trained for combat against roughly human sized targets with exactly the same equipment loadout as yourself in the open fields one on one doesn't train you for dungeon crawling. It doesn't train you to operate as part of a group. It doesn't train you for resource management.

Shits should have stuck to hunting giant rats in the sewers.

>>50919735
>Don't you know what an Ogre is?
>No.

Stay classy Gobshite Hunter

>>50944454
>>50944496
I think >>50921211 described it well. It's as though someone changed the system overnight & barely anyone noticed.

>>50944534
There's a POV in the LN where a Silver Adventurer explicitly says that 99 in 100 and 1 in a 100 sentiment. Threat is real, rewards are shit, let Porcelain Adventurers cut their teeth on them. Maybe they die, at least some of them survive. Eventually they'll get enough funds to get proper equipment, and move on to other shit as soon as they've got the hang of killing gobbos.

>>50944545
>A level one wizard with maybe three casts of fireball without any briefing on how to conserve spell uses while operating as part of a small unit within tight quarters
I presume they don't have any magic conservation lessons nor the common sense that you only have a few each day so save them. I'd be shocked if it never occurred during training that you stop being able to cast spells after casting enough of them. This shit would be a part of any basic training, even an artilleryman would start to notice if their ammo started to run out in some kind of training exercise.

Where does it say they were trained for that? No general training? No "aim for the head" or "watch your back" universal advice? The dungeon crawling is only somewhat relevant because of traps. Resource management in such a short timeframe isn't as relevant unless basic common sense is the resource.

>>50943636
Well that shuts him up.

>>50919697
I like Goblin Slayer for that it shows — professional extermination of goblins.
It could have been shown better but considering that LN-to-Manga market filled in in Japan I`d say GS is pretty high on quality list.
It would have been even more hillarious if scoll contained polymorph spell which would transform ogre into goblin.

>>50944700
You mean the poster that was a reply to? I'm still here, I just didn't want to talk to him.

>>50944604
It comes down to hubris then. A level one wizard with the power to shape the state of the world by force of will didn't approach the task of slaying goblins, contemptible creatures that simple farmers will drive off with some determination, with the appropriate sense of their own mortality.

You get the same issues with 18 to 28+ young men and women in the military. There are a lot of dumb shits, and you're telling me that an intellectual wizard on her first outing isn't going to conflate her past academic success into with projected success in all other endeavors?

>>50944731
That would be fucking great

>>50944782
I presume that they'd learn some basic shit. Some of this shit they'd surely teach or discover on their own during training. If there's any monster studies class, wouldn't they teach some of this stuff too?

What powers foes goblin champions and lords posses? Just adding magic powers seems boring. And the big tough monsters is already covered by Hobgoblins

is he autistic?
guts would mop the floor with him, anyways

>>50944986
you know, the power

>>50944549

I have to admit, I would kind of like to see a manga that went the opposite way, where a guy from a hyper-gritty grim and dark system wakes up to find the world has shifted to bizarre JRPG rules and he is now the weirdo who has to learn how to fight in a new paradigm where everything he knows is wrong.

>>50945020
What power?

>>50945177
Power of the Gobskull

>>50945134
Would that just made said hero a horrifyingly intimidating villian for the rest of the world since he just finish off his enemies, doesnt belive in power of friendship or redemption and if said world is completly toothless make him look edgier than local demons?

http://yaruok.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-4317.html

Players: Swordman, Monk, Priestess, Mage

GM: Your party is entering the cave and, as humans, none of you have night vision.
Swordman: I will light a torch. You are not going to tell me to do a roll check, are you?
GM: Fine. As you lit the torch you can see your surrounding. The cave is big enough for an adult human to move around, but it is barely wide enough for 2 men side by side. The width is about 8 feet. Decide your turn order and place your character tokens here.

(The players placed the Swordman, Monk, Priestess, and Mage.)

GM: All of you are fine with this order? Good, so be it. Only the Swordman carries a torch? All of you will enter the cave this way (innocent voice)?
Everyone: Yeah yeah, we are going in.
GM: *Roll dice*......All of you enter the cave. About 50 feet in......the wall beside the mage suddenly caved in. 6 goblins jumped out of the hole. Let's see, okay, 4 in front of her and 2 behind.

Swordman: Wait a second. We didn't roll any Passive Wisdom check!
Monk: Yeah! If there was something wrong with the wall, we might have noticed it!
GM: I rolled it for you already. None of you have the Alert feat, and since only the Swordman has a torch, everyone else behind him gets -2 on checks. Stop your whining. You have been ambushed. First the Initative check *roll*. Everyone in front of the goblins is decked another -2.
Everyone: *roll* Fuck!
Mage: Mine's successful. Yes!

GM: Okay, the Mage goes first, then the goblins, then the Preiestess, the Swordman, and finally the Monk.
Mage: First thing to do in an outnumbered encounter is to thin out the opponents! I will finish off 1 first. I cast Fire Bolt *roll*
GM: The fireball hits Goblin A and you killed it. Now it's Goblin B and Goblin C's turn *roll*. They attacked and pushed you to the ground. Goblin D...*roll*, it snatched the staff from your hand. Goblin E......*roll*, it stabbed you in the stomach. The dagger is poisonous. Do a physical check.

>>50945298
Mage: The fuck! Why only me! *roll*
GM: You finished a goblin with one single spell. Have you ever heard of Aggro? Anyway you failed the check. You start to feel nausea and weakness of limbs. You are now immobile. Next, Priestess, your turn.
Priestess: Is this GG? I attack a goblin *roll*
Mage: Heal me first!
Priestess: I know, but I need to get close to you first!
GM: *roll*......Your attack missed, but the goblins stepped back.

Swordman: Finally it's my turn! I will slash at a goblin! *roll*
GM: *Roll*......You killed Goblin B.
Monk: I will move towards the rear of the party. Your Swordman is in my way! I can't get around you!
GM: Since the Mage is immobile, skipped. Goblin C...*roll*...D...*roll*...E...*roll*...F...*roll*. Anyway, Goblin D's attack hit the Swordman's leg.
Mage: Fuck!
Priestess: 1 only hit took out almost 1/3 of the Swordman's HP. Is this GG? I cast Curing Wounds on the Mage. *roll*
Mage: You didn't have Lesser Restoration?!
Priestess: That's a level 2 spell! And all of you told me to choose Blessing!
Swordman: I will attack Goblin D! *roll* 1 hit killed it!
Monk: Why did you get out of my way before you attack?!
GM: Too late. Anything else you want to do Priestess?
Priestess: I could, but I only cast 3 spells in total. Does your Swordman needs any healing?
Swordman: No need. Save it for when I get hit again.
GM: Okay. Goblin E attacks the Swordman *roll*. Oh, you died.
Swordman: Fuck......and I am dead?
GM: Too bad you didn't heal when you had the chance, nor did you buy a better set of armor. Anyway there are 3 goblins remaining.
Swordman: Then you should have given us a bigger initial fund!

>>50945316
Monk: ......I attack Goblin E *roll*
Priestess: I can drag the Mage's body out of harm's way, yes?
GM: Yes. *roll* Goblin F successfully grabs your Monk's leg. All your following checks will suffer a penalty. The rackus from this fight has attracted a Hobgoblin to here.
Swordman: God damn it we are getting raped and you are still sending in new monsters?!
GM: Well they are all on my DM notes. Too bad for you.
Monk: Isn't it my turn now? I attack the Hobgoblin! *roll*
GM: Your attack failed. It's the Hobgoblin's turn. *roll* It bludgeoned you against a wall. You are knocked out by the attack. Your character is a girl, yes? All the other goblins pile onto you. *roll* They have succeeded.
Monk: *Filps table* This shitty game!

Rogue: *Opens room door* Sorry I am late, how's the ga......What are you all doing? And why is the GM lying on the ground? Did you all got GG by him again?

>>50945330
===

Swordman: We are negotiating. Very well, we will accept our 3 characters' deaths.
Mage: In return, you let the Rogue join the party and keep this game running.
Monk: Finally, the Rogue's initial character gets the sum of our current inventory, gold, and experience points.
Rogue: If you agree to this, we promise we will keep our baseball bats away from your figurine collection.

GM: A...agree.

===

GM: *Cough*......So, a Rogue appears in front of the Priestess. He is about 20 feet away. Goblin G and H noticed you.

Rogue: Initiative first. *roll*
GM: *Roll*......The goblins go first. Goblin G fires an arrow at you.
Rogue: First of all, I have the Deflect Arrows skill on my character. *roll* Check is successful.
GM: ......*roll* Goblin H runs towards you and slashed you. Do a physical check.
Rogue: No need.
GM: What?
Rogue: My character is wearing a leather armor with an additional layer of chainmail added to it. I also have Defensive Tools Specialist on my character sheet. My defense is so high that even if you roll +20, your goblins still won't penetrate my armor. So there's no poison effect.
GM: Ah fuck, then why did you pick Deflect Arrows in the first place?
Rogue: I don't know what sort of crap you might shoot at me.
GM: ......Your turn.
Rogue: Attack check. *roll* It's dead.
GM: ......
Priestess: I am still alive right? I whack the remaining goblin with my staff. *roll*
GM: ......Your attack landed and the Goblin is in a daze.
Rogue: Then I guess it's my turn again? I throw my sword at the goblin. *roll*
GM: ......The sword hits the goblin and killed it. What the hell.

>>50945352
(I am going to deviate from D&D 5e and make the encounter more like ソード・ワールド2.0. )

Rogue: Your Priestess still has 2 casts, right? Okay we are moving deeper into the cave. I want to activate Stealth, Investigation, and Minor Disguise on the entire team. *roll* *roll* *roll*
GM: You have discovered a Shaman totem. Along the way you did not discover any trap. You rolled that for Stealth? The goblins ahead sense that there is more than 1 person approaching their lair-
Rogue: No they did not. I have Silent Movement, so all my Stealth check is +4. Furthermore my base job is Ninja, so that's another +2. According to the rule book, as long as I don't roll a 1 all my checks should succeed. My character is so stealthy that even going into dragon lair is a cakewalk. As for the Priestess, she stays behind me at a distance so the goblin didn't hear her. Finally, the Minor Disguise disguised our scent.
GM: ......Very well. A goblin noticed that some of his companions haven't come back. He is coming out their lair-
Rogue: I throw a dagger.
GM: He is not in visual range yet!
Rogue: I don't care. According to the map this part of the dungeon is straight. Second I have Monster Specialist-Goblin, I am familiar with their body sizes. Finally I have Ninja's specific skill Sound Positioning. I can attack unseen enemies with -2 penalty. *Roll*
GM: Fuck!

>>50945330
That DM knows how to run a game.

>>50945362
Rogue: I use Trap Creation *roll*. Then the Priestess and I rush into the lair.
GM: You even have Trap Creation? Whatever, let's roll Initiative first-
Rogue: Execuse me, but I have selected-
GM: Okay okay I know your check will succeed. Just shut up and continue.
Rogue: Sure. We entered the cave. The Priestess, who is behind me, immediately casts Holy Light as we enter.
Priestess: Okay. *roll*
GM: ......All the goblins inside the room are blinded for 1 round.
Rogue: I look around the cave. What do I see?
GM: This is a moderately sized room of about 1000 square feet. The wall facing you sits a Shaman goblin on a chair. Beside it stands a Hobgoblin. There are 5 goblins scattered around the room along with a number of female slaves. The Shaman goblin sees you and-
Rogue: They are still blinded.
GM: ......
Rogue: So according to the rulebook I have successfully ambushed them, yes? Then the turn order should be I, the Priestess, then the goblins.
GM: ......Yes.
Rogue: I throw my spear at the Shaman goblin. *roll*
GM: ......You killed it.

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And that is it. Hope it was worth the wait >>50942311

>>50945398
That frustration would explain unkillable ogre pretty well.

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>>50945398

Thanks m8

>>50945362
>ソード・ワールド2.0.
And just so people know, this is Sword World 2.0

Characters are created by mixing classes together then picking skills from their respective pools. I believe it is a 2d6 based system.

>>50945362
>A goblin noticed that some of his companions haven't come back
That's not what happened.

>>50945398
>Trap creation
Considering that trap involved hammering pegs into some stone within a narrow cave, I'm unsure how no one heard anything.

wanting to read something with gritty fight against low level fantasy mobs. Possibly with good worldbuilding.

Any recomendation? Manga, western comics, western novels, fanfics. Whatever.

>>50946775
Changed a little for the sake of making it fit a D&D game.

>>50945134
>>50945284
Dark Fantasy PCs would be the most terrifying (anti?)heroes in the entire realm. Even actual villains and evildoers would neck themselves rather than fight them. Has a writefag already made a story like this? It would be nice to read

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>>50945134
That's pretty much what happened to post-timeskip Rossieu

Rape is hot but this manga feels like a parody at times when it's not.

>>50921897
>Lastly, your entire post and example applies only to the total newbie party and not anyone else in the setting. In fact, the helmet thing was only used as a gag in the campfire scene, not an example of his badassery
What about the steel adventurers who didn't think helmets would be a good idea? That's the entire point of pointing out helmets are useful? The newbie party failed because of not wearing chainmail and not maintaining formation and not passing their perception rolls.

The Steel adventurers however, are presented as not wearing the proper equipment (lack of helmet and armor) as well as not being able to spot a fairly obvious trap in a high stakes situation.

(in the LN it is explained that the groups ranger failed to notice a trap because she was tired from a very lengthy entry into the Elf Fortress)

But once again, the same chapter shows a goblin taking a pot shot at GS and his helmet stopping what incapacitated the warrior from the Steel group.

Now there is no excuse because Steel on the rating chart is enough ladder rungs above Porcelian to make those parties experienced. The world of GS is portrayed as operating on a set of rules that don't match the current threat. And while the Humans are only shown to have this poor response, we can only compare it to the elves who live in terrain that fosters Goblin growth far more than human society does.

And none of this addresses the fact that if victims of Goblin abuse are sent to churches, why has the Priest never heard of them? It's a fairly common story according to the narrator. And the Mage was never taught to count her spells? Or even make sure she is not exposed? How is she the top of her class but fails in basic common sense, especially in a world that operates on D&D terms.

>>50948150
And that was an all-female party. One female adventurer thinking: "no, this would never happen to me, I'm far stronger than these goblins!", okay. I could understand. An entire group throwing themselves at these rape-monsters? At least wolves kill and then eat you.

I know what i want to read now "meticulous professionalism in a grimdark fantasy"

Any advice?

>>50948150

That and helmets are NOT always pure upside. I mean, GS's helmet is fucking terrible if you want anything resembling vision.

You'd think when going up against a race that use a lot of traps and ambushing you'd go with a helmet style that gives you peripheral vision rather than that visor'd monster.

>>50945284

Well, that or ineffectual. As he doesn't believe in something that is a fundamental force and kills people who could later be allies.

>>50948150
Steel adventurers are listed as noob tier actually. Well equipped noobs. Porcelain, Obsidian, and Steel.

>>50948150
The steel adventurer lack of helmet leading to their downfall was an invention of the manga adaptation. They did inadvertently alert the gobbs and were simply overwhelmed in the LN. GS did get a rock to the head that would have incapacitated him without it, but that was unrelated to the Steel party.

Anyways, the Steel Adventurers were slumming it with the goblin extermination quest. "Stepping down" they were careless, again, because most Adventurers just briefly cut their teeth on gobbs and then never go back to them. If they got lucky then they never learned the necessary skills and mindset for those shits. And that's the thing. GS isn't doing anything that anyone else couldn't also do, but he's one of the few with a healthy appreciation for what they're capable of.

People don't rise to the occasion, they sink to the level of their training.

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>>50949608
>The steel adventurer lack of helmet leading to their downfall was an invention of the manga adaptation.
Which is the subject at hand. The LN gives the "overcome by sheer numbers" excuse for why they lost and it's implied that is what happened after the warrior is knocked out in the manga. However, they juxtaposed GS's helmet stopping a projectile to the warrior's concussion in the manga.

>Slumming it
They were doing a vital job. Goblins establishing a fortress is a problem for everyone. But none of this address is the problem of these seasoned Adventures or at least slightly experienced adventurers not having any knowledge that goblins become a much larger threat over the last 5 or so years. The problem has always been the goblims being a much larger threat should be something that people notice yet nobody takes action aside from Goblin Slayer and maybe the elves.

Not to mention the lack of the steel group's equipment. They are all still dressed like they belong in a larp convention not an actual battlefield but nobody besides goblins slayer is dressed appropriately. There's even a segment in a light novel that lampshades this when somebody goes shopping for armor

>>50949413
Pic related. If we know that even at porcelain. There are people capable of soloing multiple threats unarmed, and mage with potent tools, steel is still experienced enough to have handled a goblin infestation that lacked a shaman and a hobgoblin.

Not sure if steel = noon is a creation of /a/ or an actual statement in the story.

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>>50921211
Goblin Slayer is 5e though.

I don't get why goblins are a threat.
They can only breed with the help of other races. This renders them inherently shit if they want to overwhelm things with numbers. Which is their entire gimmick.

The only way these goblins could be a story threat is via narrative fiat and deus ex machina.

>>50950428
They answer is in the source material.

>>50950503
not really, as the source material is the one that posits this nonsensical scenario.

>>50950546
Well the source material literally answer this post>>50950428 question. I don't really get the 'not really' that you are referring to.

>>50950588
The answer isn't satisfactory to explain the situation.

>>50950381

P-Pure coincidence

>>50950428
>The only way these goblins could be a story threat is via narrative fiat and deus ex machina.
That is literally the in-universe reason why the gobbos are a threat. The whole world is basically a D&D game with the GM fiating the goblins into being an actual threat.

>>50950670
that's... not satisfying, anon.

>>50950621
In the current situation, it kinda is.
This isn't one of those first page infodump series, you know?

>>50950685
>that's... not satisfying, anon.
It is not satisfying, and it is dumb as shit, but it is the reason why they are threat.

>>50950712
That's my entire problem here anon.

>>50950685
Of course it's not, since that's the outer universe explanation.
The inside universe, they explain why goblins are actual threat to village, tribes, etc.

>>50950725
the inside universe explanation is like six times dumber and less satisfying though, for aformentioned reasons involving the incredibly retarded method of their reproduction and survival strategy.

>>50950754
Not really?
Roughly speaking they're learning, they survived, they make colony, they're not extinct, there's still place for them in the world where they can adapt to the environment. They have it all. They explain that in more detail in source material.

I mean, every bit of your post doesn't convince me that you actually read the source material.
You said it was dumber, but they didn't blatantly tells the reader, "This is Dnd so goblins is a threat just because, happy?!"

Not that was dumb.

>>50950826
None of that really matters given their subhuman intelligence and ridiculous reproductive strategy.

>>50950845
It's called evolving anon. Also what is this ridiculous reproductive strategy that you keep mentioning about?
If you explained that, I'm convinced that you actually read the source material.

>>50950881
their whole not having females and being inherently parasitic deal.
That shit works more and more poorly the higher on the food chain you go man.

>>50950503
No it's not, you liar.

>>50950881
Except we have no reason to believe that Shamans, Hobgoblins, Ogres, and Goblin Lords weren't already a thing before the gods started fucking with the dice rolls.

All we know is that more goblins are appearing. We know nothing of how. They don't even seem to need women to reproduce as far as we've been shown because they don't treat women with enough care to justify keeping them as breeding stock. For all we know they literally just poof into existence.

>>50950888
It's not that they don't have females, it's just that so far, there's still no sign that female goblin exist.
Also you just need 1 human to breed multiple gobs, they're like roaches.

>>50950910
>They don't even seem to need women to reproduce as far as we've been shown
This is also wrong.
There's one instance where they torture the woman rather than using it for reproduction, but that's because they too agitated from before when the human killed few of other gobs.
This explained that gobs do feel emotion.

There was that one adamant poster that keep saying goblins doesn't care about the woman though.

>>50950967
>1 human for multiple gobs
Straight up not worth the exchange rate, and unlikely due to poor level of care.
Also, humans are SHIT at giving birth. It's like a major fucking thing.
Also, at any point their entire structure could be toppled by any level of systemic resistance, which makes it an unviable ecological niche.

>>50950967
It's stated in the LN that the monk chick died from abuse by the time the Priest got to her. Most other women don't last a week.

How is that breeding stock?

>>50950994
The humans aren't willing to give birth anon, they're not the one who nurse the baby.

>>50951001
Then she's failed as breeding stock, they didn't hold back since there's 3 girls in the area. Probably intending the priestess to be the main stock breeder.

>>50942058
Wait.
Does this mean he assfucks any goblins he takes alive?

>>50951057
Not being willing to give birth would also significantly reduce the survival rate of any children, yes.
Everything about using humans as breeders is retarded in this scenario.

>>50951150
They're goblins anon, they're not humans. They just using the human ovaries to breed. Just imagine it like sea turtle baby or any other animals. They surviving by themselves after birth using their instinct.

>>50951196
I haven't even factored in shit after birth care, anon.
I am talking purely about how fucking hard it is for humans to have children, especially those they don't want, especially without both parties dying in the process, especially repeatedly, especially without medicine, especially in poor care situations. This would be sub third world survival rates, and that shit is already super fucking low.
You might expect one or two of the survivors to reach any kind of adult age, and that doesn't work if they have to go and kidnap someone else to make more kids instead of just fucking among each other.

>>50950994
>Also, humans are SHIT at giving birth. It's like a major fucking thing.
That's because they lie on their backs instead of squatting.

>>50951235
The humans are fine anon, they're not in the middle of a crisis when the goblins aren't attacking.
Gobs rape them, kidnapped human don't have anything to say if they want children or not.

>>50951057
Then explain why the girls the Steel adventuring party were sent after were already dead? Those girls surely didn't piss off the entire horde and get ironic deaths?

It's clear from the text that goblins don't use humans for breeding. They spawn in too many numbers too quickly for that.

Your headcannon does not prove that they do. Only that the writer is bad at world building since he made rapey little buggers with no real motives.

>>50951393
There could be two explanations:
1. those gobs don't have a leader that tells them when to stop raping their breedseeds
2. they already have high numbers and were planning to attack the village and get more girls anyway.

>>50951393
>Those girls surely didn't piss off the entire horde and get ironic deaths?
Oh but they did, they killed some of gobs before getting headshotted in the head.
Also the steel girls mission was to rescue the kidnapped girls, which means the goblins already had enough of breeding stock.

So, you're that one adamant poster who's just brushed everything of with "this writer is bad at world building" eh?

>>50951422
Not that guy, but I give you a third option:
3. The author didn't actually put any though into those events or most of the worldbuilding.

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>>50951148
Nope, he GG asked why gobs attack and he went to explain the "revenge circle" (which was also his backstory to the reader) and ended saying that from the gobs point of view he is a gob because he survived an attack, grown stronger and started to hunt down gobs, which is pretty much what happens when humans kill gobs but leave some alive.
GG immediately calls him out for this commentary.

>>50951463
LN mentions that the gobs were planning to atatck the village.

>>50951454
>Oh but they did, they killed some of gobs before getting headshotted in the head.
You didn't read my post. I said the steel adventuring party WERE SENT AFTER.

You know, the girl who was used as a lure for a trap? That one? What did she do to die so early. The request wasn't even that old.

Learn to read before reacting.

>>50951393
Not familiar with the setting, but hazarding a guess.

What if the only way to get a hob or magical talent into the gene pool is to hijack it from another more capable species?
A female gob will only birth gob, but will do so in litters.
Female from other species can result in something stronger or more magically inclined.

It'd explain the numbers, the parasitical breeding trait and the obsession with breeding stock.

>>50951332
they have significant amounts of say, as they are literally carrying the things in their organs.

>>50951499
Female gobs doesn't exists in GS's world.

>>50951264
not entirely, anon.

>>50951499
All of this would make sense except there are no female goblins but I do like this idea and will put it on the back burner if I ever need it.

>>50951463
World building takes some detail one at a time anon, this isn't one of those first book infodump story.

>>50951480
The girl who was used as a lure for a trap aren't the steel girls anon. The steel girls was the one that got lured by the girl that is actually a trap.

I think you're the one who need to learn reading anon. Pretty sure you actually didn't read the source material.

>>50949883
>Pic related

And there's the same chart in the LN that groups Porcelain, Obsidian and Steel as beginner ranks that you wouldn't trust an important quest to. The next three job levels are identified as mid rankers of which there aren't very many. Advancing from Steel is a big hurdle that many fail to do.

Just because killing goblins is an essential problem to be addressed by adventurers doesn't mean the Steel weren't slumming it. The female warrior undertook the quest out of moral outrage at the rapacious goblins stealing women. Not because killing goblins is profitable. And being steel doesn't mean they were good at killing goblins. Being a decent hunter of big game in the open doesn't mean you're capable of operating as a tunnel rat clearing tunnels. Being generally good at killing low level threats with generally appropriate gear doesn't mean that all rounder gear is the best idea for specialist extermination threats.

Abs to mollify those butt hurt about GS being broken when it comes to gobbs, GS mentions that a horde of 100+ goblins with numerous champions and a lord is something he could single handedly deal with if they were in their nests, but not in the open.

>>50948269
Judging by how GS can eat & drink through that helmet, he likely can see just fine as though he doesn't have one. Magic I guess.

>>50951510
That heads back to the problems the other anon was talking about then.

Breeding sufficient numbers from an exclusively outsourced stock.

Do the goblins birth in litters or singularly/at rate of mothers species from the pregnancies?
Are the pregnancies quicker and births easier, or does the gestation still match the mother species?
Also, survival rates on even cooperative prisoners must be fairly low given condition, care and other factors.

>>50951527
>The girl who was used as a lure for a trap aren't the steel girls anon.
I know because I wasn't referring to them.

This is what I posted. >>50951393
>Then explain why the girls the Steel adventuring party were sent after were already dead? Those girls surely didn't piss off the entire horde and get ironic deaths?

I was never talking about the adventurers. But there was one girl that died and others that had been kidnapped that we don't see in the manga.

You don't actually read what other people post because the whole topic was the kidnapped girls. Instead you look for boogey men in anonymous taiwanese puppet show boards.

>>50951633
Crazy straws.

>>50951633
>Magic I guess
He wears it from day one, he trains himself to see with such a narrow vision from the get go till now.

>>50951650
It's not their mating time, they only used them for rape, food, and play things (killing). And one was used for the trap.

>>50950845
I personally consider their reproduction strategies a pitiful attempt at shoehorning rape into the mix. When even Re:Monster has a better explanation, that goblin females exist but have a low birth rate & ferility & thus other races are a very desirable supplement, it's a weird feeling.

>>50951752
it's fucking hentai logic is what it is.

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>>50948269
He practiced.

>>50951752
They never states that female goblin didn't exist though. They just said they never encounter a female goblin.

>>50951774
and every bit of evidence indicates no female goblins.

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>>50951774
They state that anything that a gob rapes produces a pure gob, why that would happen if there are female gobs?

>>50951784
It's called potential plot point. The never stated it so it can be used for plot point in the future.
It's one of the basic story making.

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>>50951465

>>50951732
I don't think he had it in the manga. The series of flashbacks showed him with some different helmets.

>>50951826
If you require a mid series plot point to make a thing not super fucking retarded, I don't think it's very good.

>tfw all this could have been solved if Gobs spawned from mushrooms & spores

>>50951876
who cares what you think? if it's something that he's hidden it'll either be a good explanation or a bad one, wait and find out.

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Answer me, /tg/, what class GS fits? he is basically a fighter, but can use an bow and has access magic scrolls, so a fighter/ranger?

>>50951889
Or he's not hidden it, and your theoretical plot point turns out to be nothing because the universe is poorly thought out and made using hentai logic.

>>50951910

Scroll is irreleant since he bought it.

>>50951910
Ranger with Preferred Enemy: Goblins.

>>50951910
Favored enemy bonuses from ranger, Fighter for all martial weapon proficiency.

>>50951873
Still helmet, one with wider view in day one and it escalated to be narrower and narrower until it got the way right now.

>>50951915
But everything that makes you think is so poor and using hentai logic is already explained with the situation that is currently happening.
Your post just conveyed us that you will think it was shit no matter what.

>>50951915
True, I don't really care, I don't read it.

>>50951969
Not really. The post conveyed that thus far, the world is extremely poorly written and provides no foreshadowing for any of the twists you've suggested that make it less poorly written.

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GS used to wear a more vision able helmet and a less effective armor.

>>50951969
Anon, this shit is straight up hentai logic.
The guy who made these comics is the kind of person you would tell to jack off before posting on a board.

>>50951765

He practiced having peripheral vision in stupid helmets rather than getting a practical one?

>>50952020
he used to wear a practical one >>50951991

>>50952027

Why did he stop then? The sort of helmet he wears is one you'd not really see outside jousting/heavy mounted units. Not really stuff for adventuring underground.

>>50952048
That helmet doesn't look iconic enough.

>>50952048
>doing research
fuck that

>>50952064
Character design > arms and armor autism.

>>50952092
Heck, the manga itself shows a breakdown of all his armor. It was all chosen with purpose.

>>50952092

The issue there is that so much of GS is 'Let us wank about how pragmatic this Realistic guy is in this otherwise JRPG setting is'. The issue is with stuff like the helmet it ends up just being the illusion of pragmatism and seeming more like 'The rules of the setting warp to make me right, even if my decision isn't a good one'.

>>50952121
>>50952092
yeah, you can't act like you want the pragmatic crowd and then ignore pragmatism willy nilly.

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>>50951969
It doesn't stay in the manga if his helmet is the same one but modified each time or a different one. Either way, the view given is definitely different.

>>50952092
I'm sure the longsword being supposedly too long for a cave isn't impractical to swing?

>>50952137
LN anons just said his sister was his only family and she raised him alone, not wonder he is so mad.

>>50952048
They need to hide the eyes somehow. Classic edgy shit.

>>50952133
>>50952121
Hold on though, it's not like he's wearing bikini armor or even nothing.

We know he only takes Goblin missions and those don't seem to pay all that well.

He also plans for his eventual demise and on-site procurement. This might just be one he picked up that works for him AND would probably be a bad fit for a goblin who tried to wear it.

>>50952177
Another thing.
That entire on site procurement thing is retarded for someone who supposedly works on not rolling the dice.
That is picking the MOST DICE ROLLING FOCUSED POSSIBLE way of fighting.
I mean, god forbid he just have a few well maintained weapons that he uses in various situations.

>>50952231
READ THE MANGA/LIGHT NOVEL/ THREAD

He tells you the reason. When he bites the dust, he doesn't want the Goblins to get good weapons off of him and use against others. He's taking a risk, yes, but anyone who played in a tabletop knows you can't remove all of them.

>>50952231

That's silly. Why would you want a weapon you can trust when you can rely on the goblins maintaining the weapons correctly for you. I'm sure this won't result in weapons failing you at a critical moment ever!

>>50952269

The issue there is that it's not a very good reason. It's adding much more risk to himself in order to slightly reduce the chance of a given group of goblins getting a single good weapon.

It feels more like a challenge someone would take in a video game than real logic. Which sorta goes back to my main issue with GS >>50952121

It feels more like the illusion of pragmatism rather than actual cleverness.

>>50952269
It doesn't have to be a super amazing weapon, it just has to be a decent one.
You know, like the kind goblins steal and then do not care for so they become worthless.
He would lose nothing, the goblins would gain no advantage, and he'd be able to actually plan ahead based on what tools he may have.

>>50952231
>>50952269
>>50952270
>>50952316
>>50952320
Isn't it because dead goblin smell sticks to weapons so the goblins can smell him coming?

>>50952340
wash your fucking sword you asshole

>>50952269
>When he bites the dust, he doesn't want the Goblins to get good weapons off of him and use against others
I'm suddenly curious if Goblins can wield all human weapons. Some of them are too big to effectively use a dagger or too small for other GS equips.
>>50952270
When reading this manga on /a/, I was under the impression that GS is rolling 20s 24/7.

>>50952340
I thought it was because weapons tend to wear down quickly with the way he fights and it's easier just to keep getting new weapons that are all moderately good condition cuz he does start off with a sword that he brought himself.

>>50952371
maintain your sword you asshole

>>50952353
Can't do that in the middle of a goblin cave.
He could bring a cool sword and use it once per clearance before dropping it and having to find it later.

>>50952403
wait how are they not immediately alerted to where you are and what you are doing after the first goblin kill anyway?
I thought you were talking about coming into the cave to warn them, but that's just retarded. I mean fuck, the splatter on the walls and YOU would be more than enough to alert any given goblin.

>>50952426
No, viscera on the weapon means goblins can more accurately sense your coming in the dark.
He changes weapons to stalk them better.

>>50952456
he seems like he gets a lot of fucking viscera on more than his weapons
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>>50952269
>Deliberately use shitty equipment so they won't get good things off of you after you die.

This is perhaps the most retarded backwards and counter productive reasoning I have ever fucking heard.

Oh man I'm fighting a vampire. Better bleed myself half dead then get Aids and Hepatitis so they won't get a good drink off of me after they murder my dumb ass.