/swg/ Surfs up!

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First for the remains of the resistance teaming up with the good guy Imperial Remnants

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Also kind of liked this bit of art by the same guy

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Rogue One Visual Guide pdf when?

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Season's Dark Greetings

Is the First Order fascist?

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Could this baby from No Man's Sky be used for a hotrodded up Z-95?

>>50879747
>Limited edition
kek

>>50879650
Why would the Remnant have an Arc Hammer?

>>50879747

Id buy it with a little tweaking

It just looks a little too out there to be a Z. If the butt was more in line with a regular Z95 Id buy it as a hot rod

>>50879889
That's a giant booster engine on the back, actually.

>>50879908

Ahh then Id scrap that entirely honestly. I feel at that point it wouldnt be a Z95 anymore

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>>50879669
>Season's Dark Greetings
Ah yes, the season for the womenfolk to torture all the men until at least Jan 2nd.
Why can't we just have a holiday that involves beer and guns or something

>>50879747
Dangle some cannons off the wings and it'd be pretty neat

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White and Based.

>>50879862
Because Kylie Katana is canon no longer, friendo.
Long live the Empire.
Long live Veers.

>>50879965
*Shot through the heart*

>>50880048
it's all part of the game we call love

>>50880025

>the old republic
>good

L O L

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>>50880025

Also why is Filoni a bad guy in this

Clone Wars predates the canon wipe

>>50880083
Better than anything Disney's ever made.

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>>50880106
>TOR is better then Disney

Please, for the sake of the thread, confine your opinions to /tv/. Or if you hate disney so much, and are bored, have fun at /swco/

Before Disney
>Most EU stuff is pretty much entirely ignored by Lucasfilm stuff, and often directly contradicted. Ocassionally an EU character or concept will show up in something significant like a cartoon or film.
After Disney
>Most EU stuff is pretty much entirely ignored by Lucasfilm stuff, and often directly contradicted. Ocassionally an EU character or concept will show up in something significant like a cartoon or film. Also they wrote these rules down and told people about them.

Why did the canon change get so many people mad when it changed absolutely jack shit?

>>50880190
You know, they wrote down the rules and told people about them is applicable both before and after, except in BOTH cases nobody sticks to the rules and they don't always tell people about them.

>>50880098
Because Filoni was the scapegoat for the retcons made in TCW, including the changing of the Mandalorian culture from what was previously established.

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>>50880190
It traded Michael Stackpole, Aaron Allston, and Matthew Stover for Chuck Wendig.

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>>50880267
>Because Filoni was the scapegoat for the retcons made in TCW

All Lucas

Although I kinda like the New Mandalorians.

I just wish Filoni and Pablo would write a 30 page explanation on everything about Mando's currently, from the end of TCW, to Rebels, and then beyond it to TFA.

I'm getting tired of 22 minute episodes that leave more questions than answers

I know it's old news by now, but I'm catching up with Rebels and I was very happy to see the TIE Defender show up. I hope they get some screen time later

>>50880106
>date gatekeeper bullshit

I just got a U-Wing for X-Wing and I have a really autistic question.

Did they change the material for the X-Wing cards? I haven't bought anything since the Imperial Raider and the cards for the U-Wing feel really weird and different.

>>50880292
>stackpole
Battletech fan here, getting started with Star Wars.
Does his SW novels also involve fucking hueg engine explosions?

>>50880766
I'm only really familiar with the Rogue Squadron novels. As far as I can remember, none of the extremely large explosions in those books are explicitly engine-related.

>>50879662
this

>>50880787
From memory there was a lot of bio-weapon stuff in those as the Empire was trying to give humans space-aids

>>50880852
>*non humans

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>>50880766
>Does his SW novels also involve fucking hueg engine explosions?

No but they do involved the occasional odd horn dog momemt

>>50879662
>a black man in the resistance
Man thats Ludacris

>>50879662
What's so advanced about this helmet Czerka

>>50881137
Nice pun! But, He's a member of rebellion not the resistance.

>>50881150
It manages to give the wearer a modicum of protection despite not fitting that well.

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>>50881182
>>50881150

It has a helmet band you can put something in, like a blaster pack, pack of deathsticks, sabacc card...

>>50881150
It appears to have a flashlight on its chinstrap, which seems like an advanced level of impracticality.

>>50881150
Its a pasgt with a plastic bump helmet put on top, so a +1 at best

>>50881220
How else are you going to see what you're eating after dark?

>>50881150
Czerka Arms is breaking new ground with the ACH-14 Advanced Combat Helmet. it provides a 20% less chance you'll commit a war crime while wearing it.

Wow! That IS advanced technology!

Critics will say that's because its not fitted for Trandoshan skulls, but for some sentients, that's considered a feature too!

>>50880330
Werent they seen in ESB?

>>50881274

Nope, they were made for the TIE Fighter videogame. Never appeared in any movies

Got about 50 dollars yesterday. Should I get a K-wing with it?
I kind of want to use Miranda as a regen wingman for Rey (even though I already have Norra and Poe).

>>50881021
Daily reminder
Wedge Antilles hops around on one transparisteel leg.

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>>50880294
So can someone tell me if the fucking Fett's are god damn mandos? I rage a little everytime I think back to them saying Jango is just a fake

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Posted pic related last thread and some anon said that lancer is dead. Can somebody explain to me how a Star Galleon kills a Lancer? Is that not a Star Galleon?

How is this drifting list? http://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v4!s!95:15,110,-1,159:14:3:;234:15,44,136,164,165:47:3:&sn=%5BEUROBEAT%20INTENSIFIES%5D

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Apparently the New Republic fleet made this new ship "Star Hawk"

>>50881844
They're not. It's not like they said anywhere in the movies that the Fetts were Mandos. People just assumed that because they wore Mandolorian armour that made them Mandolorian.

>>50881844
The Fetts are Mandos.

Also, I just want to see some good old fashioned Mandalorian crusading. Is that too much to ask?

>>50881868
Lancer is a anti-fighter support ship, the Star Galleon is a escort frigate with turbolasers and concussion missiles. Do the math

>>50881968
>Nadiri Mark One Starhawk
was a type of battleship in service with the New Republic Starfleet. Like all the ships constructed at the Nadiri Dockyards, they were constructed from disassembled captured Imperial spacecraft. It was notable for being one of the first class of ships built by the New Republic, through military contract, after the Battle of Endor.

>>50882087
>>50882069
I'm getting mixed signals here

>>50881968
The ship's real. but that's fanart.

>>50882096
The Fetts are only Mandos in the old EU.

And if you want old fashioned Mando crusading, I'm guessing Fenn Rau might be who you're looking for.

>>50880025
So this is what happens when you mix racism with autism, eh?

>>50880025
This is the edgiest shit I've ever seen. And it has Darth Nihilus talk in English so the "artist" clearly doesn't actually know shit about star wars

>>50882365
All I see is autism, bad art, and shit taste in EU material.

I don't think I followed FFG's news quite as religiously last year as I have been this year - does anyone know when they resume posting? After Boxing Day, or are we in a drought now until 2017?

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>>50882443
The picture is the autistic part, the caption "White and based" is the racist part.

>>50882432
It's fascinating how wrong that image is. Starkiller is the Shadow the Hedgehog of the SW universe. Cade is controversial at best. Bane is boring as fuck. 1313 Boba Fett has never been canon. And what the fuck is Maul doing here?
Plus the drawings have the same vibe as those old racist caricatures from the early 20th century. It's like watching pic related, but with more autism.

So, Vader's "Choke" line in Rogue One got me thinking, An Un-maimed Ani-Vader would probably make SO MANY bad puns.

>>50882365
I think he meant White uniform but it hardly matters.

>>50881844
Don't really get where the confusion comes from.

In the old EU they were.
In the official content, including TCW they were never meant to be, which is something Filoni talks about in an interview, I think it's about the legacy stuff.
New canon hasn't done anything with Fett yet, but I'm fairly certain he is not anymore, since the word of god by Lucas himself was that he is not.

>>50879747
Puts me more in mind of either a knockoff or possibly a heavily modified derivative built on license somewhere
>>50881844
The lancer's issue is that it has exactly no weapon that can reliably penetrate capital ship armor, and the star galleon does, even if it doesn't have many. The lancer just won't be able to get enough lucky quad hits in before the turbolases and missiles take it apart

>>50882646
>An Un-maimed Ani-Vader would probably make SO MANY bad puns.
Like in the ROTS novelization?

>we were promised a handsome reward
>i am your reward. you dont think im handsome?
>slice

>>50881868
Lancer's have enough quad batteries to wipe out a whole squadron of fighters
The old Galleon, yeah its a slow piece of shit and not exactly a marvel of design when it comes to freighters. But its pretty tough, has enough turbo lasers on it to make pirates go away and if you get close enough (like you'd have to with a Lancer) you will eat its conc missiles and be unhappy.

>>50882835
Exactly.
>>50882849
I'd say the Galleon's a pretty damn good armed freighter.

>>50882869
Its party trick of jettisoning the cargo under its own hyperspace drive was pretty neat, the interior was also designed to repel borders so that's not awful either.
But, they where painfully slow fuckers and when you can't outrun much as a wallowing space truck, chances are you might be in the shit when it comes to a shooting match as well.

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Does anyone have more Mad Maxed speeders like pic related? Basically civilian or even military speeders converted into shit you'd see in say.. post-Imperialcalyptic Outer Rim.

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>>50882944
Not a real lot

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>>50882937
>>50882869
>>50882849
Keep in mind that the Star Galleon was devloped from the original Galleon, which was completely unarmed and a sitting duck for pirates and rebels.

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>>50882977
Most SW vehicles are kind of janky pieces of shit anyway, I think a post-apoc scenario probably just means they're a little bit more abused.
I mean, hell, its the outer rim anyway. Nice people stay the fuck out of it unless they're lost or being chased by someone/something even worse

>>50882944
In Rebels Ryder Azadi's strike force had a V35 courier civilian landspeeder with an E-WEB. And there was some sorta technical in the background of one of the Tatooine shots in EP1.

>>50882978
From what I know of they were a replacement for unarmed/underarmed freighters but not designed as an overhaul of any specific ship, they were a new Keel.

>>50879654
>Star Destroyer docked like any old carrier except hovering in the sky
As a Navy brat and Imperial loyalist, this gets me a little hard.

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>>50882999
>Found my other folder with janky SW/sci-fi shit in it

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>>50883047

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>>50883006
The Galleon was introduced in Rebellion as a specifically Imperial freighter, but didn't make too many appearances. It had the same problems the Star Galleon was designed to correct: slow and no self-defense.

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>>50883064

I really love the AT-AP's "Tank Destroyer" type of design, but walkers just don't seem to fit that role very well, I mean sure it could stand up or go belly-down in a depression to pop in and out for firing, but turning to bring the main gun about pretty much REQUIRES the damn thing to stand up and expose itself.

The top-mounted laser/Mass driver sorta helps with that problem, but not much.

>>50883065
Ah, a strange choice of the name since "Galleon" Specifically MEANS a heavily armed cargo ship.

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>>50883079
>IG88 about to be date-raped by a Jawa

That's about it from me

>>50883065
>>50882978
Why are WEG ships so damn ugly? It's like they're trying for a Terran Trade Authority aesthetic and failing miserably because they added greebles to make it look Star Warsey.

>>50880440
I haven't noticed anything different. The pegs however have been redesigned. Old pegs won't fit most new ships, and new pegs are really tight on old ships. They're better overall though.

>>50881482
Yes, K-wings are good. Either with Miranda or Warden squadrons kitted out as a bomber. Both do well.

>>50883124
The only Ugly WEG ships I can think of are maybe the Strike Cruiser and the New Republic Fleet modernization project ships.

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>>50883006
What about something like this with a mounted machine gun?

>>50883201
You like the ship with the bridge window that covers two entire decks, anon?

>>50883108

It would look so much cooler on wheels or as a hovertank. The three leg design looks so awkward and probably couldnt be too effective

>>50883252
More than two, and I believe most of its surface area is a decoy to keep the actual bridge intact a little longer.

>>50883201
Didn't think the Strike Cruiser was too terrible, the Carrack was pretty fucking awful though

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/M%27Yalfor%27ac_Order Huh, so before the Republic decided to stop Grievous and his campaign to REMOVE HUK they actually used the Kaleesh as a weapon in a proxy war.

Pretty fucked up.

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>>50883319
Hovertank you say? How about a Panther III hovertank?

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Alright lads, how about this baby? Would it fit the overall SW theme?

>>50883484
>What happens when you are given a job to make a tank into star wars universe and you got yourself an eraser and an old WW2 Tiger 2 tank schematic before you

>>50883604
I don't see why not.

>>50883642
Sounds like he's bucking for a scholarship in Sienar

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>>50883642
> an eraser and an old WW2 Tiger 2 tank schematic
Nah more like a What-If WWII schematic and a few moments in MSPaint

>>50883671
We take only the best and brightest! Their minds are resistant to cell death from excessive Glitterstim and alcohol usage.

>>50883346
well the republic is an odd mix of the UN and NATO, it kinda makes sense. Gotta get some realpolitik in my idealism aka free trade agreement.

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Trying to come up with some fucked up Uglies for my EotE players to find/fight/loot that aren't the same old Z-ceptor/X-TIE/DYE-Wing etc. The game is set in the classic EU during the Thrawn trilogy.

Anyone got any pics of cool uglies or fighter blueprints i can MSPaint cut-n'-paste together to make uglies?

>>50883671
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/TIE_ap-1
>those slimy KDY kriffs think they are hot shit for getting the AT-AT contract? Well kriff me, I'll show them! I'll make a TIE fighter! On land! And it'll be fast! IT'LL BE THE FASTEST GROUND ASSAULT VEHICLE EVER. Just replace the wings with tank threads... Fast ones. Gotta go fast

I'm convinced one of you lads could write a much better reproduction of the Sienar meeting when they came up with this one

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>>50884408
>how about. Uuurph
>how about we... lissen' 'ere
>'ow 'bout we stick some threads
>'ow 'bout we stick 'em on a Scimitar bomber
>an' turn the launchers upside-down
>then you got CAS, but like on the ground, dude!
>no more need to wait for air s'pport
>you 'ave you support right there 'onna ground next to you

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So why do people keep saying Imperial Remnants would help the Resistance? Kinda newfag here, I don't get it.

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>>50884735
Well, the thinking is that the First Order is where all the Imperial crazies ended up in while the Remnant, which we know nothing about in Canon other than It Exists, is presumably the branch of the Empire more interested in "law and order" than GAS THE JEDI SPACE WAR NOW.

Part of its nostalgia for the Imperial Remnant of Pellaeon/Daala of Legends, which were pretty cool guys and part of its a wish for a post-Endor Imperial faction that isn't evil to the point of self-parody.

>>50884735
The First Order's top two second-in-command dudes are, respectively: an edgelord whose anger at not being an overpowered cyborg husk of a human bean like his gramps drives him to make really poor life decisions, and a holosim LARPer who thinks he can restore PEACE AND SECURITY TO HIS NEW EMPIRE by vaporizing entire solar systems to make a point fucking Starkiller Base is the dumbest thing ever, but I digress

I feel like anyone with the sense to look into the First Order wouldn't consider them a viable long-term political movement so much as a bunch of hopped-up terrorists in their 20s with Snoke in the background tossing them plot armor.

>>50884477
No, even better:
>take old hailfire droid
>combine with TIE fighter
Now your ground support can be your air support and vice versa

>>50884861
>which we know nothing about in Canon other than It Exists
It doesn't but no point in arguing. You'll find out soon enough. There will be no remnant of the Empire post-Jakku other than the First Order. Unfortunate, but true.

>>50880025
>Legacy of edgelords
>Prequels
>Farce unleashed
>Gay Old Republic dnd crap
>muh military tacticool commando and 1313 edgelordness
>Good
>WHITE
Topest KEK, you forgot Yuuzhan Vong and WE-WUZ-Spartans-Mandoshit.

>>50884961
The Empire DOES, in fact, exist post-Jakku. I don't see why you keep claiming it doesn't. The Galactic Concordance was signed by the Empire and New Republic after Jakku and was designed so that the Empire stays within certain political and galactic boundaries.

The Galactic Concordance didn't dissolve the Empire, but it did remove pretty much all of its teeth, with the remaining ones fleeing to form the First Order.

>>50884861
Doesn't Bloodline establish The First Order has also infiltrated the New Republic Hydra-style? So basically the Hux bunch are a bunch of fanatics that can't be trusted to achieve its goals outside of providing the external threat for its leaders and more subtle operatives to seize power in the Republic, like the Separatists were for Palpy.

What do you guys do with captured imperial perssonel? What would pirates do?

For pirates, I was thinking just jettison them into space in escape pods and have them get picked up by imperials later, or perhaps press gang them into service. Sell them into slavery depending on how vicious the the pirates are?

>>50885099
Read more nu-canon. It's noted in SEVERAL books and comics that the Empire doesn't exist, its remaining worlds joined the NR, became the Centrists and then seceded to join the First Order.

>After the collapse of the central Imperial government in the years and with many members of the political and military, scientific establishment escaping into the Unknown Regions following Galactic Concordance, what was left of the centralised Galactic Empire split apart and break into remnant factions. The New Republic would maintain an egalitarian policy of peaceful coexistence with many of these galactic governments, which were comprised of former territories led by Imperial governors, some of which sought to join the Republic.[76] While the Empire, the heroes of the Rebellion, and the tragedy of Alderaan would be remembered by the generation of children conceived following the destruction of the Death Star II. These "victory kids," would learn of the battles of the past in textbooks, with the struggles of the Galactic Civil War soon becoming nothing more than a distant memory.[76] Many of the Old Empire's orbital shipyards would be destroyed,[77] and the New Republic would pass the Military Disarmament Act, among others, in an effort to avoid a repeating the former mistakes of the Galactic Republic; and would host its capital on a rotating basis among members worlds rather than on the former Imperial Center.

>>50885206
Sell them to Hutts

>>50885230

>Many unaffiliated with one another, the Empire continued to exist in the form of numerous nations and remnant factions that wished for their own independence from the now dominant Republic.[14][9][76]

14 is a tweet from Pablo saying "It had stopped being the Empire. It's more like independent nations. Like post-USSR 'stans'"

9 is the TFA Visual Dictionary.

76 is Bloodline.

So yes, it technically still exists. But it remains a bunch of basically Balkan states instead of an organized Imperial Remnant like Legends.

>>50885206
As a rebel/NR captain, or rebel privateer, hand them over to the people in charge of POWs, as a non-bloodthirsty pirate, jettison them in escape pods, never played a bloodthirsty pirate, but the answer would presumably be murder and/or slavery

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>>50885230
>>50885369

And here's Pablo's tweet and the surrounding conversation.

So yes, it does in fact still exist, just not as it did before.

>>50885402
Hmm. Interesting. So the Warlord period could still exist with the right political prodding.

>>50885369
>>50885402
Still doesn't seem like they'll do anything with them. Pablo even notes 'many of them just wanted independence' so its questionable how many of them are even anything close to resembling the Empire. I'd want Pellaeon's Remnant back or ideally the Fel Empire but I just don't see it happening.

>>50885206
See if anyone wants to join the crew, first off. Tht seems to be the typical pirate's MO, and it works just as well in a Galaxy Far Far Away as it did in the golden age of piracy, considering in both cases the people might be experienced serving on ships but who got their asses drafted into service for a cause they weren't too keen on.

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What's a Nubian?

>>50881150
It's on a black guy's head,basically, that's it.

>>50885524
In that context, it's a ship made on/by Nubia. Not a big mystery.

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>>50885524
Its where Space Hip Hop comes from

>>50885524
A design style of a planet's people that is easily distinguishable, from the looks of it

>>50882181
Yea got it confused with the other Galleon. Always thought it was odd it was shooting back in this picture.

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>>50883343
I love the Carrack. You need to die right now.

>>50885674
>Guys I've been looking at this dildo I found, and I realized it would be perfect for the new show we're working on!

>>50880106
As a long time TORtanic player, you're full of shit.

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/swg/ i just saw rogue one, it was soooo good!

>likable but expendable characters, who trade life and time for the mission
>beautifully complex, but basic plan and mission
>visually stunning and complex
>great acting, and camera work
>just enough banter to keep dialouge livley
>excellent use of the snowflake super weapon
>great ideas all around on story and answered a lot of great questions the fandom has about the series for a long time.
>i feel it serves as an excellent replacment for the former cannon

But my question to you is this: would it work as an rpg setting? Would you be able to get characters and players who feel compelled to do the mission, but expendable enough not to force through an agenda?

In my experience the rpg groups ive been a member of, and DM'd for usually dont like their players getting killed off, or entering lose/lose suicide missions.

>>50886538
The questions were already answered the movie didn't need to do that, although now we need to know where Mothma got the"Many Bothans died for this information" line from.

>>50886658
>Many Bothans

Holy shit for the 10^10th time that's Return of the Jedi

>>50886689
Oh shit my bad man, it's been a little while they kinda blend together.

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>>50886733
Reminder that Manny Both Hanz died for our sins.

>>50886689
We should put this in the OP

>>50886772
Lets not, it doesn't need to be there makes OP a bigger faggot than usual, and besides it's not mentioned in every thread I forgot it was in ROTJ because i haven't watched them or the prequels in like 2 or 3 years.

>>50886812
What we'd really need is a short doc that lists of pros and cons of the different RPGs so we don't get "Why does no one talk about Saga?" Every thread. Sadly I'm too sad/don't know enough about d6

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>>50886658
Didn't you see all the Bothans? They were all over the place in the movie!

>>50886765
Wait a minute, isn't this the next door neighbor of that metal band lead guitarist, Notim Portant?

Hourly reminder that TFA is the worst Star Wars movie ever made and that Rogue One is among the best, probably on par with ESB.

>>50886865
Why does no one talk about it? even if in your opinion there are better ones than Saga it's still something people use obviously.
>>50886959
Get out, go to /tv/, TFA had nothing wrong with it, it was just simplified for the little baby complainers all over the place post Disney buy-out.

>>50886959

Both of those opinions are bad

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>>50886925
Don't ask. I just had to.

>>50886959
>TFA is worse than TPM which literally has a joke where Jar Jar steps in shit and one where he smells a fart
Yeah, sure.

>>50886981
I'm not against talking about it. It's just that every conversation is "I want to play a Star Wars RPG which should play? Should I play Saga?" So we retread the same pros/cons talk every time. It's probably the best d20 games so if you like d20 you will like Saga

>>50887221
I found that funny but I watched it in the theaters when i was 6 or 7, now it's just a part of the movie to me, and no before you shit on me I did watch the OT before hand my mother was a star wars fan so we watched them together.
>>50887229
that makes sense.

>>50887281
TPM was my first Star Wars movie, and I was 7 so I laughed at the fart and shit jokes. But they don't belong in Star Wars.
"It's just part of the movie" doesn't cut it if we're gonna talk about reviewing. I'm all for ignoring stupid stuff in movies and focusing on the good parts, but in the end when you judge a movie you have to judge it on everything, not just the good parts.

>>50887393
>gonna talk about reviewing

And that's the problem. This is /tg/

>>50887412
Do explain, please.

I'm working on a SWd6 game and the REUP edition has this lovely alien generation table.

If anyone's game, give me 2d6 and a prospective name for our soon to be species.

So aquitens and hammerhead for epic x-wing when?

SCUM EPIC WHEN!?

>>50887788
When they decide between the three possible ships and the variations thereof.

>>50887484
/tg/ =Traditional Games,not reviewing movies or Television shows, but as for that stuff whether you or a thousand reviewers or 400,000 fans hate Jar Jar and his antics he is a part of Star Wars accept it and move the fuck on, I'm tired of hearing hate over something you can't control and have no real say in. So, you have two options go to /tv/, a bitch there, or shut the fuck up about it and Talk About lore or Saga or the Starship wargames do anything but shit-post about the quality of the movies or their characters, because they're all fine films with a thing or two out of place here and there, that don't detract from the overall experience. UNDERSTAND NOW?

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So, Bombshell Minis are doing a not-Jyn Erso mini. Which of the ImpAss heroes would best represent her? Jyn Odan seems like it might work (and they share a name), but honestly Verena Talos could work too considering the whole Baton goodness.

And speaking of R1, anyone figured if some kind of ImpAss/X-Wing/Armada minicampaign for Scarif is feasible yet? Like, ground team steals plans and gets them to U-Wing (ImpAss), U-Wing docks with Corvette to handoff plans (X-Wing), then fleet covers Corvette's escape (Armada). That, or X-Wing game to cover the U-Wing to land, ImpAss for ground team to broadcast, then Armada to cover the Tantive IV's escape.

Basically what I'm saying is Scarif seems like a good template for an interconnected campaign between all 3 of FFG's minis games.

>>50887812
implying there is a choice besides the Wild Card.
Coming in a pack with skip ray.
Because not having the Karrde organization represented yet is a travesty.

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>>50885058
Kek enjoyed the Force Awakens, did you?

>>50887981
I still want the Star Jewel/Dragon pearl more as they seem killier.

>>50887981

Could also do scum Gozanti (with actual different print, not just colors for Hondo and Visago stuff.

Or, the minstrel class yacht could drop with several titles and Jabba an co crew cards.

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>>50885230
>Nu-Canon

I will never read 'Nu-canon' because 'Nu-Canon' is a crock of shit and the death of the greatness that was Star Wars.

>>50888058
>Could also do scum Gozanti (with actual different print, not just colors for Hondo and Visago stuff.
I'd rather the open-jawed old model over the Rebels one.

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>>50885402
>Pablo
>Says there's no Imperial Remnant

>>50887954
Anon I want Dropfleet Star Wars so bad.

If anyone who works at FFG is here, please make this a thing

Rolled 4, 4 = 8 (2d6)

>>50887496
Avark

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Real men don't watch Disney movies.

>>50888117
The Avark homeworld is dominated by grassland and plains, with few forests or mountain ranges.

2d6 for species form.

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>>50888142
Real men don't shitpost on 4chan either, yet here we are.

>>50888142
I'm pretty sure "real men" are Fathers who have children, who want mommy and daddy to watch disney movies with them.

Rolled 6, 2 = 8 (2d6)

>>50888154
Attempting to save the thread from shitposting.

>>50888220
The Avark are a mammalian species who evolved on the plains of (Homeworld Name).

3d for Niche and Tech Level.

Rolled 1, 6, 3 = 10 (3d6)

>>50888220
It hasn't devolved completely in to shit posting dude there's nothing to save it from,

>>50888255
none. Ardvaarks are plains mammals, but they don't have technology.

>>50888297
The Avark are herbivorous and have advanced to an industrial level of technology.

5d6 for Attribute Dice and die ranges

Rolled 2, 1, 4, 3, 2 = 12 (5d6)

>>50888331

>>50888345
Attribute Dice available for non-heroic Avark: 9D
Adding 6 to this, we get a "heroic" Avark baseline of 15D.

Avark characters must assign a minimum of 1d+1 to each Attribute, and no Avark may have more than 3d+1 in any single attribute.

They are, on average, weaker than human beings. 6d fpr special skills, story factors, etc.

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So, Should I bother with Allston's LotF/FotJ books aside from mercy Kill?

>>50888610
Let's be honest.

They're shit. They're COMPLETELY shit. There's little, if anything, redeeming about them.

>>50888142
We're all children here.

>>50888756
I mean I managed to enjoy Allston's Vong books, could the later stuff actually manage to be bad?

>>50888773
>pedobear intensifies

>>50879965
>Ah yes, the season for the womenfolk to torture all the men until at least Jan 2nd.
Says a guy who never met a girl. Poor kiddo. Go play with yourself.

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>>50879965
>a holiday that involves beer and guns or something
Have you considered visiting Texas in July?

>>50887393
There were two burp jokes in ROTJ

>>50879650
>Imperial Remnants
>good guy

Pick one.

>>50879965
>implying I don't spend more time and money on hosting Christmas and New Years than my girlfriend and mother out together

There is no greater joy than coordinating things.

>>50889650
You must really be looking forward to the Upsilon shuttle then, huh?

>>50888070
90% of the old EU was hot garbage and deserved to be purged the world with fire and great prejudice. Pity the prequels couldn't have been purged, too.

>>50888088
Me too anon

Me too/

>>50888142
Real men go watch Disney movies like Moana alone and don't give a fuck about little babyboy opinions on the internet because they're too insecure about themselves.

>>50888865
>enjoy anything about the Vong
You should consider suicide.

Rogue One wasn't that good from a filmic perspective. The first twenty minutes were an absolute mess, apart from the robot none of the characters had a development arc, and the denouement was flawed and failed to bring home any kind of emotional closure of the film's plot. Remove the Star Wars goggles and view it as a military sci-fi film and its problems become a lot clearer.

It's the best piece of Star Wars media to be released in at least a decade, but as a film, analysed impartially and without its trapping, it's probably the worst Star Wars release since RotJ.

>>50889833
They're by Aaron "Wraith Squadron" Allston and focus on Wedge orbitally bombarding the fuck out of the Vong at one point.

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>>50888173

>rebel transport is the only ship in the game with innate Jam action
>K-wing is the only ship in the game with innate SLAM action
When are we going to get a new speedy support ship to rectify this by both SLAMing and Jamming? Preferably with unique pilot Mikel Jor'Dan.

>>50890134
Gave it a spin and it spat out a bomber with four medium ion canons. I have no idea who would even use this thing.

>Type: Bomber
>Fuselage: V-19 Torrent
>Wings: Agr Starfighter
>Engines: NovaSword
>Hull: 12 RU
>Shields: 17 SBD
>Hyperdrive: No Hyperdrive

>Fuselage Weapon: Dual Medium Ion Cannons
>Wing Weapons: Medium Ion Cannon
>Bomb Bay: Adv Proton Bombs

>Production Extra: Atmospheric Canards
>Crew-Added Extra: Improved Ergonomics
>Modification: Jury-Rigged Deflector Shielding
>Trait: Spaciuos Cockpit

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>>50890280
Whenever FFG remembers the Missile Boat exists.

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>>50890280
That would have to be an Imperial ship, small base but only available in epic games.

>>50890280

Burnout SLAM, now anything with an Illicit can SLAM once.

>>50890303

I feel like that's more "when Lucasfilm remembers the Missileboat exists". Because you throw that shit in something BAM, easy street to a mini.

So I'm running an AoR 3-5 shot after being inspired by R1, currently thinking of Operation Chariot, but with Executor instead of Tirpitz. That said, I need more ideas for daring rebel raids with high stakes and low chances of survival.

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>>50890309
85 points, 1 epic point naked with SLAM, JAM and a title that lets it fire ordnance after SLAMing

>>50890394
You could basically run any commando raid from real life, just run it without mercy or contriving things to go the players way. Generally RPG people aren't commando competent, so things wil l be horribly dangerous for them

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>>50890394
One-way mission to slice a remote-trigger virus into its Navcomputer. A virus that, when activated, forces it to make a blind hyperspace jump and then wipe the navcomputers. Rebel command has weighed the options and decided that this would be the least costly method of removing the Executor from the equation of power.

The chance if pulling it off are slim to none and no one is counting on you returning from this mission.

>>50890494
My group started mostly in historical wargaming, so they're substantially more commando competent than most.

>>50879716
All we see is their military, never civilian territory. As far as we know, they're just a military in the same way that the Resistance is.

So... kinda. But with that in mind, you could make the argument that the Resistance is just as much of a fascist organization.

>>50890551
Hrm. What about throwing Operation Eagle Claw at them? It might be interesting to see how they would do at that. Another good one might be an early-NR mission to secure or destroy a couple of half-built leftover doomsday warheads, while several warlord and criminal groups are actively fighting over them

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>>50890394
Moscow Theater siege. The low chances of survival are for the civilians.

>>50890828
Eagle Claw could be a bit tricky to make work with Rebels, seems more like something for the Clone Wars or pre-Clone Wars, maybe even an Imperial game.

>>50890890
How about the Dieppe Raid? Or Operation Rimau?

>>50890861
Maybe I should just run a campaign of Imperial special forces being wildly incompetent at resolving hostage situations.

>>50886981
>there's nothing wrong with TFA
>it was oversimplified for non-fans

Pick one.

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>>50890923
The first thing that popped into my head upon reading your post is some square patch of bumblefuck, nowhere getting annihilated from orbit by an ISD while an officer screams into his commlink "AFTER! I SAID AFTER WE MAKE THE EXCHANGE!"

>>50890922
The question with aping Dieppe is what it would be a test run for, but Rimau could be cool.

>>50890986
Now I definitely have to run it.

>>50890964
Um way to not read i said it was over-simplified, perhaps that was the wrong word to use though, maybe made to be too similar to the OT would work better, but it was FOR or rather because of the whiny little bitch fans who hated the prequels and were pissed about Disney buying it, because "REEEEEEE LUCAS IS ONLY STAR WARS CREATOR NO-ONE ELSE!!!!!", that that happened. There's nothing wrong with it in my view and I've been a fan my whole life, I also happen to love the prequels because despite their flaws they add to the universe that I love.

>>50891025
>The question with aping Dieppe is what it would be a test run for
Endor, Scarif, Coruscant, Darksaber, early-war Rebel commando doctrine? If you give your players expendable pre-mades, Space Dieppe could even be used as a sort of intro to the actual campaign proper. Decoy PCs die, actual PCs are revealed to be watching pre-recorded armorcam footage as prep for the real show

>>50890890
Eagle Claw could work as a NR mission, gotta rescue hostages taken at the NR embassy on a 'neutral' world that's just been taken over by a bunch of unpleasant whacko locals

So in all the material I've seen, Star Destroyer turbolaser gun turrets aren't superfiring or spaced out far enough so as to be able to all fire forward at once. Is there a reason for this given in any sources or anything, or is it just modellers not knowing their stuff?

>>50891098
That's a cool idea actually, think I'll use it, can help inform the players of some of the problems they'll run into in the raid proper.

>>50891118
Eh, I'm more interested in the underdog, tooth and nail, nowhere to run feel of the Rebellion than the NR.

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The U-Wing really makes such a great "Semi-civilian" fighter thing, would work well as a medivac ship too, especially if it had a proper airlock.

>>50891730
X-wings make me erect. We need more X-wings flying off of Star Destroyers.

>>50891730
I feel like an idiot now, I didn't notice the Ghost sitting there in the theater.

>>50891900
It's also in the fleet when they attack. And you see Chopper whizzing past in the backdrop of one of the rebel base scenes.

>>50891730
Are there stats out for this beauty in EotE somewhere?

>>50892052
Not yet, will likely be in some future AoR suplement.

>>50892052
Nothing official, and we don't really know enough about it yet to make decent fanmade ones.

It'll for sure show up in an AoR book sooner or later though.

>>50892089
Once a scan comes out, I imagine shipfag will puzzle it out from the VisDic+XWMG stats.

>>50892089
It's got good armor, good shields, holds people and only two guns, decent maneuverability in combat mode, but loitering in air support mode needs to tank hits.

>>50892144
>Once a scan comes out, I imagine shipfag will puzzle it out from the VisDic+XWMG stats.
That's the plan, yeah

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>>50891730
I'm not a huge ship guy, so I wouldn't know, but do the Imperials have any U-Wing equivalents? A cross-atmosphere fighter that can deploy troops and provide It Ain't Me fire support? Basically a space Huey, like the U-Wing.

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>want to run an EotE game where the players might be scoundrels of a sort, but will do the right thing when it comes down to the wire and not blow up a bunch of civvies for a quick buck
>have tried once irl, twice online, everyone wants to be "I'm only in it for me" cold businessmen that actively avoid distress signals (even torpedoed a ship that they were in active comms with because of "risks") or straight up murderhobos, have got two legit "good" characters the entire time

I know wanting a specific type of party is kind of shitty GMing, but I just want it so bad.

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>>50892314
I feel you. I hate murderhoboes, ESPECIALLY in star wars

>>50892283
Well we see that TIE Striker shuttle thing on Scarif that drops off the death troopers.

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>>50892283
They appear to use a modified version of the coruscant police gunship

>>50892314
Make your campaign's tone clear in the ad and veto character pitches that don't match it.

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>>50892314
>>50892382
This, but I wouldn't veto right off, try to work with the player to make the character fit the tone, but if it's still a no-go, veto, yeah.

I for one would be completely down for that style.

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Post guns two scopes away from blaster status.

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>>50892452

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>>50892452

>>50892382
>>50892415
I tried very very hard to get the tone across, and out of the gate most characters seemed okay. It was only after a session or two each that they revealed their true colours. I have a really hard time making people redo characters and kicking people out because I hate being "mean." I gave up on this mission a long while ago and have since learned to toughen up a bit so hopefully I'll be able to be more firm this time around.

>>50892415
If you're actually into it, shoot me an email at [email protected]. it'd be over voice and start a couple weeks into January at the earliest.

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>>50892475
I'm surprised they haven't showed off a DL-45 carbine somewhere.

>>50892484
You need to work on that then. If you can't be assertive and decisive with your players you'll never really click with GMing. Even though I've got an excellent group of players there are times I have to put my foot down or rein them in for the sake of the groups fun.

>>50892052
3-4 threads ago Redback made up some stats

>>50892533
Yeah, I've found that more and more as I've been forced to switch from my long term fantastic IRL group to new ones. I've told a player to change a character once in a recent 5e game, which is a start.

>>50892283

They have their boxy not!LAATs, the Imperial Dropship Transport. They're ugly as shit, but I think they're canon again.

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>>50892484
Email shot.

>>50892052

UT-60D "U-Wing" Fighter/Transport
Silhouette 3 Speed 4 Handling +1 Defense 2/1 Armor 3 Shields 2
HT 15 SST 15
Hull/Class: Transport/UT-60D U-Wing
Manufacturer: Incom Corporation
Hyperdrive: Class 1
Navicomputer: Yes
Sensor Range: Medium
Crew: 1 pilot, 1 copilot
Passenger Capacity: 12 for combat deployment
Encumbrance Capacity: 30
Consumables: 2 Weeks
Cost: 150,000/6
Customization Hard Points: 2
Weapons:
Forward-mounted Medium Laser Cannons (Fire-arc: Forward, Dam 6, Crit 3, Close range, Linked 1)
Forward-mounted Proton Torpedo Launcher (Fire-arc: Forward, Dam 8, Crit 2, Short range, Blast 6, Breach 6, Guided 2, Limited Ammo 6, Linked 1, Slow-Firing 1)
Port and Starboard Door-mounted Autoblasters (Fire-arc: Port or Starboard, Dam 3, Crit 5, Close range, Autofire)

My own first pass at stats, but this was extrapolated based on early VD stuff on the wook and some interpretation based on the film and the LAAT/i stats. Last I checked Wookieepedia says it has blaster cannons, but they're clearly autofire so I went with Autoblasters.

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>>50892089
>>50892144
>>50892199

http://imgur.com/a/tmd3R

Here's Everything. Interesting fact Bistan's door gun has ion capability but ALSO can be used for anti-personnel fire.

>>50892615
Those are heavy repeaters at most. Not remotely Ship-Scale autoblasters (Though I don't like all vehicle scale multiples being the same factor)

>>50892704

Yeah, that was me trying to extrapolate between the thing on screen and what the wikia was saying at the time, since Blaster Cannons are heavier and slower even than autoblasters.

>>50892683 clearly proves otherwise, though. Better handled with a special rule or possibly some extra hardpoints. Or just say to your Soldier Heavy "Yes, you can fit a tripod and a Gunnery weapon inside the U-Wing".

>>50892683
If you already opened it refresh it for the Datafile update.

>>50892778
>>50892704

The LAAT stat block (which is confusing as balls, BTW, with all the different weapon systems which aren't linked but it's too small to use any special firing rules - but doesn't seem armed with enough crew slots to use all the guns) has "Antipersonnel Lasers" which are like, Damage 1 for ship scale and have Blast 1, which could also be used.

fixes for the punisher that aren't just point reductions and are balanced....

and go!

>>50893134

Let it perform ordinance attacks twice.

>>50893134
revert the rulling on FCS and cluster missiles

>>50888043
Not really. Enjoyed some parts of the movie and few "muh nostalgia" moments. Characters=crap (yes, Finn was crap too), old heroes portrayed as failures. It was on par with parts of the EU, that i`ve greentexed, but those parts was loud, "in-your-face", and praised by million idiots.

>>50893134
EPT generic
Shuttle-ish refit that reduces but doesn't eliminate ordinance slots to add crew
"Sienar Experimental Model" title that lets it mount a single epic-scale weapon instead of bombs and missiles

>>50889815
Moana is overrated shit.

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>>50893134
Can swap out all of its ordnance slots for four cannon slots. It still pays full price for each cannon.

>>50880025
Well, all those EU mary sues are an par with Rey. Search ur feelings, you know it to be true. Also, EU-crowd on the pick really lack mandoshit.

>>50893307
Rey's not really a mary sue read through the previous thread for why she isn't. >>50861532

>>50893357
Read the whole tread, supporting objectively wrong opinion? The fuck? Its like reading crappy old EU books.

>>50893391
It's not objectively wrong, and exactly how fucking old are you?

>>50893417
>addressing age
Really? Let me guess,Totally-Not-Mary-Sue-Rey is your favorite character?

>>50893450
No, she isn't, that's Han and Luke and Chewie, in that order.

>>50893257
Would the title also include some way to generate energy, maybe as an action? Without a way to get it back all the epic hardpoint weapons would be kinda shit. Would be funny to try and snipe something turn one with a turbolaser or ion cannon battery but I don't think it would be worth it for what's effectively a long range less accurate proton torpedo or a critting ion cannon.

>>50892683
Thanks. Does anyone have the Y-Wing and X-Wing too?

>>50893472
Han is overrated and should have died in Empire. Luke and Jewie are nice, despite Luke being fucking failure in Ray Awakens.

>>50893496
Seriously how old are you? you sound like an angry child and your opinions are literal bullshit Han has always been the best character in Star Wars, with the possible exception of Obi-wan, because unlike Luke or Anakin he kicked ass without the force.

>>50893474
>Would the title also include some way to generate energy, maybe as an action?
I was thinking so, yeah. Maybe also allowing the generation of additional energy by taking stress

>>50893515
Falling back on calling people children is fucking weak, dude.

>>50893526
I said he sounds like not is an angry child, and if you are him, great way to deflect my rebuttal.

>>50893515
Han was useless in ROTJ and RayAwakens, he was there like robert downey jr in marvel movies - people like him, so we just put him in the movie. Character arc was ended perfectly in Empire, but nope, Hack Lucas knows better. Also, Luke kicked ass without force too.

>>50893548
I'm not him so I'm not going to actually address the argument. Regardless,telling someone they're acting like a child isn't really any better.

Jesus wept, you'd hope that you fuckers had figured out not to take the bait after an entire fucking year of faggots shitposting it

>>50893562
His part in both movies was integral to the plot, in RotJ he's the one who disabled DS2's Shield Generator, and one part of his arc wasn't resolved his love for Leia. None of the other main characters, Leia especially, would have abandoned him how does his rescue make Lucas a hack? In TFA his death is central to Kylo's character arc, as well as for the revelation of who he is. he needed to be there to die as well as to guide the new generation which he did well.
>>50893590
Pointing out questionable behavior is a bad thing now? I wasn't insulting him he was acting like a child, it wasn't part of my argument, I was merely calling him out on some bullshit.

>>50893520
If it removed the missile slots though it would ironically be invalidating the ship for long range scanners while giving it weapons that would actually get real benefit from it.

>>50889803
Pity star wars fans weren't purged as well, along with you.

>>50893672
Fuck you talking about, prequelfag?

>>50893725
Hurt your feelings, redditboi?

>redditfag
>child
>muh EU
>Rey Sue
>blatant baiting
>mindless bait taking

Jesus fucking christ can we talk about traditional games

Tell me about the last character you came up with for a starwars game, whether or not you actually played them (or even statted them)!

>>50893833
So, she is junkhunter with mysterious past, she knows all mechanicall stuff, beats ppl with a staff. In our first adventure she is piloting ship, shoot professional soldiers with ease, learns the ways of the force on a whim and defeats forceuser who destroyed entire order of jedi.

>>50893882
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rey
fucking read it.

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>>50893833
Chiss TIE pilot, known for radio silence in his TIE as he's nearly-constantly cursing in Chiss, but soft-spoken outside the cockpit. I looked up phrases and got super into the character. The group quit before it got started.

I did play an alcoholic Bith solo pianist in a one-shot, but I died shortly in. We were escaping from a nichtclub terrorist explosion, I got shot for 'looking suspicious' as I came around a corner.

>>50893789
I found the redditor.

>>50893899
The fuck? Jew Jew Abrams stole muh RPG-character.

>>50893882
>shoot professional soldiers with ease
Except she only shot one guy, and had to remember to take the safety off first
>learns the ways of the force on a whim and defeats forceuser who destroyed entire order of jedi.
Luke learnt the ways of the force on a whim a lot of the time. Plus Ren a) defeated a bunch of untrained apprentices (with backup) and had gotten gutshot by a weapon that not only killed stormtroopers outright but sent they flying. If she'd say, beat Vader out of the gate, that would be bullshit, but Kylo is a teen edgelord Vader wannabe who's not as good as he thinks he is. You know, like you.

>>50893797
Thanks for the assblasted (you)

>>50893882
Please, continue to shit up the thread.

>>50893833
You really should have just kept your mouth shut, I had won the Han argument why do you think he didn't respond? I mean seriously if you complain about something that's not technically off topic but's still shit posting it's only gonna get worse.
>>50893972
they will because instead of actually talking about ships and letting it play out or talking about GURPS Star Wars you bring attention to it, thumbs up friend.

>>50893833
An old mercenary, bitterly disillusioned with the general shittyness of the old republic, initially an almost idealistic supporter of the Empire and New Order, before seeing it's true shittyness. Now an aging drunk, he's hunting for a cause worth a damn, something to dedicate his remaining years to

>>50893833
I'm playing an Aussie zabrak Mandaboo who hates himself for not getting accepted by the mandalorians so he spends all his time drinking beer. He's also force sensitive making him obscenely special snowflake but it's a beer and pretzels game so I get away with it for the most part

My GM has challenged me to come up with some original Star Wars creature lore for a side quest that might see me rewarded with a special Force-bound mount/combat companion.

I have some ideas for the lore surrounding the beast, but not many about what kind of beast it should. Any ideas for a cool OC Star Wars animal? Lets brainstorm.

>>50894029
That sounds similar to Rahm Kota?

>>50893680
Lucas did keep the character around mainly because who his target audience was and merchandising. But I do feel like Han should have met his end on the moon of endor. Would have worked well with the deathflag/foreshadowing dialog on board the stolen imperial shuttle (before take off).

>>50894110

I liked it better that everything worked out despite Han's worries and premonitions and perceived obstacles to his happy ending with Leia. He earned it for his journey through the Trilogy, and a Pyrrhic/bittersweet victory because of Han's death would have felt all wrong. Star Wars was the kind of story that needed the Mega Happy Ending.

Fighter, wizard, cleric, rogue is the standard fantasy party.

What is the standard Starwars party?

>>50894110
Maybe but he didn't.

>>50894237
Jedi, Jedi, Jedi

>>50894237
Scoundrel, Jedi, girl, Wookiee, droid(s).

>>50894237

Mentor, scoundrel, bright eyed youngster caught between the dichotomy of good and evil, droid, love interest (optional), Big Guy (optional).

Classes and specific skillsets can vary among those roles.

>>50894251

In TFA is Finn the Scoundrel or the Girl?

>>50894283
The girl.

>>50894283
Poe is the scoundrel. Finn is the girl.

>>50894245
Who didn't?

>>50894298
George Lucas

>>50881150
It's top of the line!

Fifty years ago.

>>50894296

Poe isn't a party member, he's a DMPC, like Leia was until Empire. The party is Rey, Han, Chewie, BB and Finn.

>>50894110
>>50894172
Han in ROTJ and Sue Unleashed was a mistake. He should have died on Bespin.

>>50894350
Poe's a DMPC, but Han isn't?

>>50894172
Yah, hard to make a somewhat light hearted movie have a bitter sweet ending, but that's just one of the many restrictions of the star wars consumer base brings along. But its not bad, the trilogy was good as it is, but it does weaken the potential of other SW material in my eyes.

>>50894393
Han post-Empire is That Guy.

>>50894393
Rey is DM girlfiend.

>>50894305
And? He didn't? He did what he had to do. To be honest people only started talking about the Han dying after Harrison Ford brought it up.

>>50894432
Nah, some friends felt that way back then.

>>50894432
He didn't kill Han sorry I didn't make that clear!

>>50893134
At the start of combat assign a reinforce token to your ship. Title. Zero points.

Though honestly, I've flown the Punisher a lot, and have about an 85% win rate with it across dozens of games, and it really just needs a price reduction. Redline and Deathrain are both damn good pilots, they're just expensive and people get scared of taking them.

Especially with the new cluster bomb FAQ, Deathrain is fucking scary.

>>50893176
Just make sure you have a focus and TL when you fire. Redline FCS clusters could crap out on you before anyway. Less has changed than you think.

Also, after running into two Ghosts with TLT and FCS, I will fucking take the nerf to never run into that shit again. FFG made a good decision.

>>50894354
During the final battle seem better. If he died on Bespin, would have made RoTJ have much more extra drama, in a family focused movie.

>>50894393

Han is an active member of the main party that interacts with them consistently for the majority of the story rather than intermittenly for a minority of the story, and most of his major scenes, encounters and obstacles are confronted with the main party rather than totally separate from them. He's clearly a PC.

Poe only really interacts with a main party member during one encounter. He's important and supports the party in major ways, but he's not a party member.

Perhaps I should have specified "Good DMPC," ie one that doesn't take shine off the party by accomplishing important things for them rather than existing to help them accomplish important things indirectly.

The real question is if Old Obi-Wan is a DMPC or an overleveled PC working in collusion with the GM for story purposes who then took over Leia's character once his encounter with Vader was done.

>>50894486
Obi-Wan was the GM's PC from a previous campaign that he sacrificed to illustrate the stakes.

>>50894466
I figured but again, I don't fault Lucas on it.

>>50894484

Wait, you think Jedi would have had more drama is Han died in the last movie instead casting a giant grim shadow over the grand finale of the entire trilogy by ruining the happy ending in death? What?

>>50894457
Sure, Ill take your word. But I do feel Lucas was playing with the idea in RoTJ, which had some set up for it, and would fit in with the end of their journey together.

>>50894466
I don't either, man I love Han

>>50894499

So the original party was Luke, R2 and 3PO, Han joined the campaign about 2-3 sessions in and somebody brought Leia's player to the game right around the big climax and they let that person play the DMPC so they wouldn't be bored, only for that player to love it and come back for the next campaign full time?

>>50894523
>>50894503
Lucas was a hack, who ruined perfect ending of a trilogy. And then raped star wars for lulz.

>>50894530
this was meant for you>>50894503

>>50894537
This. Still better then Ray.

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>>50894540

>>50894517
Movie ends, the journey ends, some make it, some don't, but it's the end. It's bitter sweet. Sacrifices are made but they victorious.

If its in ESB, then it would require some form of added drama to be created amongst the characters, since their long time friend is now dead, or you pull a TFA where no one really gives a shit.

>>50894393
>>50894411
>>50894419

Episode I party
>Qui-Gon
>Obi-Wan
>Padme
>Jar-Jar

Episode II
>Anakin
>Obi-Wan
>Padme

Episode III
>Anakin
>Obi-Wan

Episode IV
>Luke
>Leia
>Han

Episode V
>Luke
>Leia
>Han

Episode VI
>Luke
>Leia
>Han
>Lando

Episode VII
>Rey
>Finn
>Han

>>50894540
ok

>>50894523

I really feel like Han dying at the 11th hour would have ruined the whole thing. Can you imagine the fucking Ewok party with Lando, Leia and Luke crying into their space beers because their best friend/true love died right before the end after taking three movies to really commit to the cause and leading the final charge?

That is in no way the kind of movies the OT were, even Empire smartly left us with a white-hot beacon of hope after all that darkness with Luke recovering from his wound in safety and the others off to rescue Solo. Star Wars can BE that kind of story, we saw it many times in some EU novels, Gendy Clone Wars, CG Clone Wars, Rebels, and of course now in Rogue 1, but its not what the OT was and Lucas was wise not to do it.

>>50894559

>its bitter sweet.

Star Wars was never about being Bitter Sweet. The only reason it was that way in Empire was so the next chapter would be that much more triumphant. I don't see anyone advocating for the medal scene in ANH to be replaced with a Battlestar Galactica irish wake for Biggs and Porkins and all the other dead pilots.

>>50894565
Lets do it.
Episode I party
>Qui-Gon
Trying to hard to be some sort of Rebellios Mentor, but player suck ass, so just another bland Mage/Piest. Rekt by final boss like a retard.
>Obi-Wan
Actually pretty gud player and char, but stupid GM give spotlight to other autists.
>Padme
Gurls can in roleplating too, nuff said.
>Jar-Jar
Player wasnt sure about going full retarded comic relief or secretly genius fishmalk. Mostly we got retarded comic relief.

>>50894591
Nah, Lucas just pussy out, and was afraid to lose money, thats whu we got alive Han and stupid ewoks.

>>50894591
>Gendy Clone Wars, CG Clone Wars, Rebels, and of course now in Rogue 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FClGhto1vIg

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>>50884861
>Daala
>pretty cool guy

Didn't she use planet destroyers on Mon Calamari?