What's the best course of action if the savage-barbarian

>>50863241

You kill the barbarian. That's it. End of story. You kill him. If you can't do it in a head to head confrontation then you slit his throat in his sleep, but either way you kill that fucker.

Yup I was just gonna say kill him. If you are a paladin have fun smiting evil.

>>50863261
This. It doesn't even have to be about moral bullshit, you have an in-character reason given your PC's prior relationship with her.

There's something obviously wrong with the player, have a talk with them about how the group plays and how he shouldn't be having his character rape a cherished NPC. Kick him out if shit like this happens a lot with no story and whatnot behind it

>>50863241
Howith the fuck did your DM allow this? I'm all for freedom in roleplay but fuck that seems like something a DM should put his foot down on

>>50863241
>she was like a little sister

Then why do you even have to ask? Kill him. Slowly, if possible.

>>50863261

Well, I suppose you have to confront the player about why they're being a prick.

IC the answer is some good ol' fashioned Frontier Justice™.

>>50863290

Also, this. Can OP explain more of this situation to us?

>>50863241
Smite the evil

>>50863241

Unleash a can of righteous, and justified PVP whoopass on the savage degenerate, castrate his corpse, burn it, and feed his dick to starving dogs. Look, I'm a forever DM,and I heavily discourage inter-PC conflict, but at this point, YOU would be the bad guy if you let this crime go unpunished.

I'm assuming your DM is accepting of PVP conflict, given the edginess of the situation. What is your race, class, level, and equipment loadout? What's the barbarian degenerate's? Who else is in the party, beside you, the rape victim, and the barbarian? How do they feel? What is the party doing right now?

>>50863241
Well, the justice commands that you beat and rape his healer.

>>50863241
Kill him. Then drop the player. Role-playing is fine, but he shouldn't have made a character that can't work with a group to the extent that they beat and rape party members in the first place.

>>50863241
it's time for the savage barbarian to be put down. quietly. in his sleep. so that there is no further danger to the party.

We have kill him, kill him loudly, kill him quietly, kill him and mutilate the corpse.
Can we just have an old fashioned hanging?

>>50863241
I suppose you have no choice, but to find a wizard, transform the barbarian into the girl, then send him back in time to be found by your group.

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>>50863241

Kill him in the game and slap him at the table.

Also, pic related.

>>50863344
Girl is just an npc so I think that's why he thought it was ok to go all out roleplay against her.

ITT: idiots take the bait.

>>50863376
Karmic, AND my fetish.

>>50863392
Still kill his ass

Oh yea and SLAP YOUR GM

This is not a thing that should be totally ok to RP

>>50863395
But i like taking the bait.

>>50863395
No one actually believes this happened, you mongrel.

>>50863241
Get raped by the savage also to show your lil sis that thick barbarian dick doesn't discriminate

>>50863241
If this happened, then rape him. The player, that is.

If it didn't, then do it anyways. Assert your dominance in your friend group.

>>50863372
barbarians are known for going berserk. you'll need strong chains and manacles just to give this guy some minuses while he goes into a frenzy and attempts to kill everybody in his vicinity.

End that motherfucker.

>>50863261
This.

>>50863406
Our group is pretty tight nit and are pretty serious in the roleplay aspect. Somehow we weren't prepared for this despite it being a sword and sorcery kind of game ala conan.

>>50863376
This.

>>50863459
It says nothing bad that you weren't prepared for a PC to rape another character...

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>>50863241
RP your character responding to the situation rather than looking for advice from /tg/ to deal with a situation that probably never even happened. That Guy played his barbarian how he viewed his character would act. Now you do your part. That's how tabletop is played. If you have a problem with what your fellow player did from a meta perspective, as in you feel they've seriously cramped your fun RP times without warrant, maybe air your complaint and discuss it like an adult.
And holy shit, all of this silly righteous indignation in this thread. The most likely response is retaliatory murder, sure, but geez, it's just a story. Detach yourselves a little.

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Train her

>>50863241
You kill that motherfucker.
No single combat, no chance for redemption.
You kill him while he rests, and leave his head on a spike.

>>50863261

Fpbp

I'll play rapist's advocate.

Is rape worse than murder? No, and if you say otherwise you've never experienced either.

I'm more interested in why the player did this, than anything else? Is he like my players, where they just do whatever they think will amuse them in the moment? Or did he think this would make his character more interesting (and does it fit the tone of your game)? If it's the former than you have more pressing issues than what to do in game. If it's the latter, to kill this character might stifle some great character building and dramatic role play.

I think these are things you should think about before you make a decision, and you should recall that this is not reality and that the player is not a rapist, and you should recall that even the inclusion of a rapist can create a more thrilling story.

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>>50863241
>What's the best course of action if the savage-barbarian PC just beat and raped our young and spirited party helper?
Join in the fun. She's already damaged goods, so you might as well make good use of her.

>She always lifted our spirits
Fuck toys are great for lifting spirits.

>She was like a little sister to my PC
Which only makes it hotter.

The barbarian has showed you the way; don't be too much of a pussy to follow his lead. Bros before hoes. Speaking of hoes, maybe you could make some money off her while you're at it.

>>50863645
If he had murdered her, people would still be responding in exactly the same way.

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>>50863645
You're a better storyteller and a calmer mind than half the dweebs in this thread, anon.

>>50863587
As a distant descendant of Hussites I feel all kinds of confused learning that this exists. Mostly because Dívčí Válka was totally unrelated to Hussites but rather some proto-feminist movement.

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>>50863654
>>50863645
>>50863676

>>50863645
>If it's the latter, to kill this character might stifle some great character building and dramatic role play.
Doing something dramatic and controversial should not be a get out of consequences free card. His character development should not stifle the development of other characters. "Oh, you were trying to develop your character, so I'll compromise my character to facilitate it." is not a good mindset.

>all the white knights itt

Disgusting

>>50863645
I'd say which is worse than the other is dependent on the views of the person suffering through it. I don't really have any authority on these things though, but then again no one really does. Hell, let's just rape and murder EVERYTHING to be sure! Wait, what was the point of this again?

>>50863753
>Getting revenge for the brutal rape of your sister is white knighting
Careful not to cut yourself on that edge

>>50863753

>Killing someone who raped someone so close to you they were practically family is now a white knight thing

Sign me up for that shiny virgin alabaster armor then.

>>50863796
>Hell, let's just rape and murder EVERYTHING to be sure
Now you're catching on.

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>>50863689
Nothing about the edgelord who wants to go full evil and clearly isn't even baiting, but 'avin' a giggle, but otherwise
>HURRRRRR GOTTA MURDER OTHER PLAYER OVER EDGY THING HE DID TO KAWAII NPC
>maybe we should consider the actual narrative implications of this and work out what direction from here would make the best story
>gets called bait
If anything, the opening post is bait because it hooked all these white knight moralfaggots whose only response is thoughtless homicidal rage. And frankly I think PKing the barbarian is peachy keen, but it should be motivated by the player's desire to tell a good story befitting his character rather than out of some vague sense of entitlement to the circumstances of the plot.
And I'm not saying it's wrong for OP to have an emotional reaction to the suffering of an NPC, either. It really speaks volumes that he's gotten attached! But all the faggots flipping a tit and saying to expel the other player because he hurt an NPC? It's a damn game. OP needs to play it.

>>50863838
>But all the faggots flipping a tit

One person other than you said he should be kicked out. I'm not advocating kicking the player of the barbarian, but OP's character SHOULD be responding with homicidal rage considering his not-sister just got raped for no reason by a traveling companion.

>>50863645
>Is rape worse than murder? No, and if you say otherwise you've never experienced either.
As a child molestation victim, I can confidently say fuck you, and you have never experienced either, but are quick to tell others how they should feel about them.
>I'm more interested in why the player did this
That is for the GM to settle, NOT the player. The player has the onus of settling this as per their character's temperament, not trying to figure out why the player made a choice.

>>50863821
You know, alabaster actually looks like a kickass armor color.

>>50863241
Well obviously you have to rape his character.

The barbarian has laid down the dynamics of this groups social hierarchy, and it is clearly rape. Soon one of the other party members will be out for your black cherry in an attempt to make a statement about their status in the group. The Only way to avoid this fate is to establish your place as the top dog.

When you receive a chance, you need to bend that barbarian over, and start plowing His boipussy until he starts begging for more. Don't worry about doing it in public, having an audience shows that you are secure and not afraid of being undermined. Only once you have broken the Barbarian to be a slave to your cock in front of everyone, will you be truly safe from the rape.

>>50863241
He should be hanged for the offence against king's peace. End of story.

>>50863887
Just like my Japanese porn comics!

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>>50863887

>>50863942
Those aren't porn comics. They're informative educational pamphlets made to facilitate survival in society, very serious business.

>>50863838
>he does bad thing to npc
>I do bad thing to him because of this

narrative consequences and implications fully considered, realized and appropriate response given

daft git

>>50863904
Right in the town square.

Hanging really needs to be brought back as a form of capital punishment.

>>50863645

I don't think this scenario exists.but i'll bite how does raping someone, make for interesting roleplay?

Everytime time I've seen it done it's been done for the evil lulz.

It just seems like something that needlessly provokes drama, if you know a member of the party likes said npc, your trying to display nerd dominance, by ruining nice things.

It also smacks of the basest form of bullshittery that shitty Chaotic Neutral rogues use. Trying to hide under alignment if Dnd, or flaws/disadvantages and what not with a system that uses those methods. My character is a savage barbarian, its what he would do. Nigger your saying you like these other assholes enough to travel with them, but would total rape their camp follower knowing that it would likely piss them off? Granted people are dumb and random enough to do shit like this.

And lets be honest if the players are murderhobos like most are how does the player, not expect to be killed?

Eh, watch this story be totally true, and its some nerd trying to insert as Khal Drogo and wanting a rape waifu.

>>50863864
Then I can also say fuck you. It's not as big of a deal as everyone thinks.

>>50863838
Letting the barbarian get away with raping an NPC companion is like letting the rogue get away with stealing your stuff. Just because it's in-character doesn't mean it's above in-character retribution.

Plus nobody likes the guy who unilaterally fucks with the group dynamic in a cooperative game just for attention.

>>50863983
Theoretically, it's a very quick way of introducing tension within the group, provided the group is unable to disband for one reason or another. It could work if the players knew each other well enough and/or hashed it out beforehand.

>>50864038
>>50863864
As somebody who has been repeatedly murdered, I think you're both full of shit. Also, what kind of wuss lets children molest them? You should be way bigger and stronger than they are.

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>>50863864

Maybe if you weren't such a faggy kid your uncle wouldn't have stuck it in you.

>>50864088
>, what kind of wuss lets children molest them
Hey, there were 3 of them, and I was 12.

>>50864105
I guess it understandable as long as their combined ages were as much as yours. I'm 30 and could pretty easily stomp a one-year-old, but get 30 of those fuckers together and I could be in serious trouble.

>>50863241
Killing's too good. Too nice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_keWS1i3RA

>>50864088
Honestly there's no reason to debate this topic since even among people who've gone through it the opinions will vary. I just say whichever is worse depends on the person who is experiencing it.

>>50864137
I've had to run from far more situations than I'd like to admit where the group of five-year olds was too great to handle.

>>50863241
Rape him back.
Then you kill him.

>>50863261
Yep that sounds about right best thing you can do. And for the girl slowly try to get her out her shell and offer her support.

>>50863261
I'm normally strongly against PVP, but fuck that guy.

Utterly destroy him.

>>50863645
Yep and that dramatic role play should end with you killing the rapist and seriously talking with the player out of game.

>>50864167
>Honestly there's no reason to debate this topic since even among people who've gone through it the opinions will vary.
Oh, I agree. Being raped has lead people to kill themselves, so obviously for those people, it's hard to argue that murder would've been worse. For others, it's a traumatic experience that they bounce back from with comparatively little psychological damage.

>I've had to run from far more situations than I'd like to admit where the group of five-year olds was too great to handle.
Yeah, but that's usually just because society frowns on people killing five-year olds and you're trying really hard to fit in. Either that or you aren't making proper use of tools. Killing a bunch of five-year olds with your bare hands is very tiring and can take far too long. I suggest employing a club of some kind or, failing that, a relatively light-weight piece of furniture, like an end table or kitchen chair. That's assuming it's a spur-of-the-moment sort of thing. Obviously, if you have prep-time, you gravitate towards knives and guns. Or attack dogs. You'd be surprised how quickly a rottweiler can take down a five-year old.

>>50863241
>Inb4 shit that never happened
Really, who let's this kind of thing happen at the table, what kind of DM accepts to narrate this, and furthermore, what kind of autistic edgelord wants to force his magical realm that much

>>50864292
>abloobloobloo this offends my delicate sensibilities, don't bring up this thing that happens all the time at my table ;_;

>>50864302
>I DM a campaign and willingly accept to narrate the rape of one of my NPCs

>>50863241
> now she's afraid of me because I am a man.
Her fault.
The only thing remaining is to rape her yourself.

Who will marry her now?

>>50864292
>what kind of DM accepts to narrate this
>There are no novels in existence that depict rape
I find your incredulity...amusing.


>what kind of autistic edgelord wants to force his magical realm that much
In context it might make sense, the character might be evil, or what if they were sexually abused as a child? To say that a PC can never rape a character is rather closed minded.


Players craft a narrative as much as the DM, and that's a good thing. Think of the storylines that open up now! The barbarian, if he isn't killed outright, will have to flee and can become a recurring villain and OP will support and care for the NPC as she tries to pull her life back together.

>>50863241
You kill your that guy.

>>50863864
>As a child molestation victim, I can confidently say fuck you, and you have never experienced either, but are quick to tell others how they should feel about them.
Then you should be the best person to answer this question, anon: Would you rather have been murdered than molested?

>>50863645
>Then you've never experienced either
Pretty sure if you experience being murdered, you dont have an opinion anymore.

And how interesting a character dilemma, oh no, poor grognak beat and forced himself inside a helpless girl, how terrible that must be for him

Traumatizing and leaving a person in pain is worse than ending them. Torture and rape are worse crimes than murder. Killing can be justified. Rape and torture can not be.

>>50864457
Well, it's true that it adds complexity to a story, I'll admit, that subjects like that hurts my sensibilities

>>50864514
I'd be dead, and in heaven, and the murderer would burn in hell forever, so not entirely happy, but the reward of paradise is mine, so I'm pretty damn ok, how about you?

>>50864545

In heaven with the God that let you be raped? That's going to be an awkward stretch of eternity.

>>50864457
Are you even considering the group or what they want out of the game? Imagine you've been a victim of rape, or close friends of yours have been raped, and now your game night, when you want to have fun and escape into something heroic, now centers around chasing some rapist? Beyond "offending" people, or "triggering" or whatever other buzz words you'd want to use to delegitimize those against this line, you can't see something as real and coarse as this just ruining someone's time and pulling them out of the game and into dark places?

If that's what you want to explore with your group role play, fine, but I'd walk from the table. I know rapists, and I know victims, and it burns a hole in my head when I can't get it out.

>>50864457
>To say that a PC can never rape a character is rather closed minded.
No, it means that there are some things the GM or the players are not comfortable exploring. When I run a game where such themes can come up, I ask each player, individually, if they are alright with xyz being a thing, and if they aren't, I will excise it from the game, because I am not a shitlord and respect my fellow players.
You are a shitlord, and do not respect the desires of the players or GM, so die nameless, preferably in the forests surrounding Albany.
>>50864556
Anon, seriously, lets try to keep the discussion above elementary level?

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>>50864545
>heaven
>hell
>real

>>50864556
Now you're just trying to get a rise, and you arent even keeping to your original point. The victim would have rather been murdered, there's your answer, sit on it.

>>50863562
So first you say RP, then you say don't RP and murder the barb?

>>50864581

If living with being raped is worse than death, wouldn't you kill yourself immediately after?

>>50864671
Because most people don't have the internal strength to take their own lives.

>>50864671
If you were a robot, or sufficiently autistic.

>>50864739
So it's mental illness that drives the delusion that rape is worse than death. Seems accurate.

>>50863241
>What's the best course of action if the savage-barbarian PC just beat and raped our young and spirited party helper?

Beat and Rape the Barbarian.

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>>50864607
>>50863971
>>50864047
I wasn't saying definitely not to kill the barbarian. I in fact say it's a perfectly valid direction. What I am advocating against is what basically amounts to jumping on the hype train - getting carried off by senseless emotions and PKing the barbarian just because the offending player, who multiple anons have denigrated despite knowing very little about him except when he's apparently at his worst, hurt the OP's precious little feelings. I never assert that murdering the barbarian is not justified, either. My only advice is that the OP should do what his character would do - whether that is murder or arresting or whatever -- and that asking /tg/ is pointless because he's going to get a bunch of triggered princesses calling for the barbarian's head anyway - the most obvious response - rather than chilling out 'cause it's a game.
Apparently people have trouble with this distinction, but since so many are just riding the crest of their exasperation over fictional rape, I can see why.

>>50863261
>>50863610
This
>>50864187
Also, this, but that one might prove more difficult.

>>50863241
He won't stop with just once. He'll rape her again, and when you get her away from him, he'll rape the weaker party members. the wizard, the rogue, and then move up to the other martials.
The only way or preventing this is to murder him, or turn him into the broken rape victim.

Why is it ok for evil characters to potentially murder NPCs for profit or chuckles but the second it's rape, an objectively lesser crime, everyone flips their shit?

>>50863261
You kill him. There is a time for reconciliation and morals, and there's a time for murdering a motherfucker. This is the latter.

>>50864818
I think the bigger concern for OP is that it was an NPC that his character was close to.

>>50864831
This was the original point, before we started debating moral values and what constitutes a more evil nature than the other.

>>50864570
>now centers around chasing some rapist?
Well, the PCs could let him walk but personally I'd want him in the ground. Hell, if I'd been victimized in that way, it would probably be a nice way to act out something that would return a sense of agency to me while still being related to my trauma. I'd also have bought a gun, but that's a discussion for a different board.
>ruining someone's time and pulling them out of the game and into dark places?
Perhaps, I certainly don't think it impossible that an oversensitive individual might overreact to the fictional rape of an NPC. But it doesn't have to be a negative thing for a victim, they can be the hero that they needed in the past.

>>50864573
>shitlord
Hello, tumblr.
>No, it means that there are some things the GM or the players are not comfortable exploring.
The GM, at least, seems to have had no more issue with it than an author who describes a character having been raped. As for the other players, we don't have that information. OP at least seems to be comfortable with the idea that his medieval-flavored fantasy world contains people who commit evil acts.

>>50864534
I'm glad you agree with me on that, and honestly, rape should offend your sensibilities, it's a horrible, horrible crime. I'm not necessarily saying, "ALL CAMPAIGNS MUST INCLUDE RAPE", rather I want to say that it can happen in situations where it makes sense. The comment that I was replying to seemed to express incredulity that ANY GM or ANY player could EVER think that depicting rape in a game would be remotely acceptable. I disagree.

>>50864818

Actually i consider that pretty bad as well personally. In this same scenario if the npc had been killed rather than raped i would still be calling for the barbarians head.

>>50863241
You can't talk it out with the barbarian, you can't turn him in, and he is presumably extremely volatile with no morals on top of being the scariest martial to fight one on one if you ask me. He is a serious threat to you and everyone else for as long as he is alive.

Coup de grace in their sleep. You automatically hit and crit, so pick up their weapon that is probably a 2hander if you want. The DC to avoid death is based on damage dealt, which is absurdly high with a 2hander's damage +1.5 strmod x 2.

If it weren't a barbarian I'd say get them under 0 and hand the girl a knife, but barbarian rage is a scary thing. Better to end it as quickly as possible so they don't tear you to pieces. Have a backup plan in case they survive too, depending on your class. Maybe include other party members if they feel the same and can be trusted.

>>50864818
None of that is okay, edgelord.

>>50863645
Murder doesn't leave the victim alive to live with what's happened. I'm not saying rape is worse, but it's own kind of hell.

Also you can go violate yourself with a cactus.

>>50864842
Oh right.
The people who think rape is worse than murder are a little dumb, yeah.

>>50863241
Give a medal to Conan.

>>50864901
Eh, it only really matters to the people going through it. Honestly, which is which really depends on who is being put through it, given that what we're arguing is literally an opinion. Not the things we're saying, but the very notion of one being inherently worse. It's literally something that cannot be measured in any quantifiable way, and as such only those who go through it can really add something of value. That being said, the opinion even then is rather split, even among them. The conclusion that can be drawn from this is that which is worse is subjective and to be determined case by case.

>>50864847
Rightfully so, but do you think this thread would be filled with as much anger if they'd killed the girl?
>>50864849
Gee, you sound fun to play with. "NO ONE CAN PLAY A CHARACTER WITH A MORALITY I DON'T AGREE WITH".

Some of the most interesting inter-party politics I've had in games have been where I play as a good or evil character who has to adventure with someone of a different alignment for the sake of a greater good or personal gain, respectively.

>>50863963
Source?

>>50864947

I don't know, I can't speak for anyone else. I was first post actually, and had the npc been killed i would have posted exactly the same thing. I won't argue over whether rape or murder is worse. They are both wrong. It doesn't matter which is worse, as both should be punished severely. Personally i advocate the death sentence, or frontier justice if there be no other recourse.

>>50863241
Does your PC have a problem with barbarian?

If yes kill barbarian

If no rape helper

>>50864974
I'm not disagreeing with that, personally I think rape in an RP game is a bit fucked and I say that as someone who has in the last 12 months played as a vicious mercenary, an assassin and an overly zealous crusader type.

My issue is that I think people are blowing this way out of proportion and making it into some moral crusade where the person performing the rape is some kind of ghoul. But if that's the character he's playing that's the character he's playing and on his head fall the consequences.

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>>50863645
>Never experienced murder
Nice try Skeleton, but your bonesome ways cannot persuade me to not seek Justice

>>50863261
Kill him. Take him apart.

>>50864545
>I'd be dead, and in heaven, and the murderer would burn in hell forever

Oh, so you roleplay in real life, interesting.

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>>50863241
You sit the player and DM down and find out why the fuck that was both an intended action, and an allowed action. Once you have your answer, whatever it is, you decide if you're okay even staying in that group. This is a contentious topic, and despite what more or less every anon has said in this thread, it's fine if you're ok with it, and it's fine if you're not; A playgroup only has to cater to that playgroup. If you are, it's probably also a good idea to explain to at least the DM, and the other player if they're worth the respect as far as you're concerned, that your PC is going to rightfully be out for blood.

I, for example, would be as mad as my character, and would act as such.

>>50865009

If that's the character that's the character, but i have to wonder what sort of man would want to play that character. I've played characters of questionable morality before, but even if they've been willing to do things that others may find reprehensible they've had lines they wouldn't cross. Personally i wouldn't play a character who would harm a friendly npc, be it rape or murder or just a beating. I have played characters that kill women when it is necessary. I've made characters that torture people, but i've never made a character who got his rocks off on causing an ally to suffer for no other reason than its my character. Again this is just my opinion, but while he may have been playing his character i don't think it's right to make those sorts of characters and he would not be welcome at my table. If one of my players did this, their character would suffer the consequences and i would explain that that was not something i want in my games and if they weren't alright with that then they could walk.

>>50865014
> Implying Hell doesn't exist just so we can suffer longer.

>>50863241
Cut his belly and make him measure his own guts with steps until he dies.

>>50863241
If the NPC was closer to the group than the barbarian, it's absolutely justified to kill him. Being asocial and not integrating in the group is maybe fun to play but it also has the disadvantage that the group sees you more as a tool than as a friend. And once this tool stops being useful it might get discarded.

>>50864545
>I'd be dead, and in heaven
Sorry to be the one to tell you anon, but sex outside of wedlock is a sin in the eyes of the Lord.

>>50865051
Dude it's just a game, if someone does something people don't like they're free to take whatever action they see fit but that doesn't make them a bad person. Obviously the player and the DM were ok with what happened.

And not playing properly evil characters is your choice, I've had characters who betray friendly NPCs for coin, for spite and for personal gain.

If it makes everyone in the group uncomfortable either warn the offending party or don't play with them again, but that still doesn't make them a bad person, despite what many of the posts in this thread imply.

>>50863241
if you're from Germany roleplaying about avenging rapes by barbarians i swear to fucking christ

>>50865108

We clearly have very different views about the world anon. I don't believe there is any point to continuing this conversation. You do you, and i'll do me. Whatever gets you your jollies i guess.

>>50865055
>implying you "end" in hell and not start in it

>>50863261
>when the first post is also, in fact, the best post

>>50864268
>Yeah, but that's usually just because society frowns on people killing five-year olds and you're trying really hard to fit in. Either that or you aren't making proper use of tools.
Not him, but I kek'd so hard at this.

If the girl is a citizen of a system where rape is an adequately punished crime, subdue the barb and take him there to stand trial.

If not, cut his dick off in his sleep and banish him from the party.

>>50864671
Shifting the goalposts. The original question was "be raped or be murdered". If you've already been raped and you kill yourself, you have been both raped and killed, so that's no longer a one or the other choice.

Your question amounts to "If eating puke is less bad than eating shit, why wouldn't you eat puke after you've eaten shit."

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>>50863241
SHE GETS REVENGE, have a PC option to help (sidequest type thing) But she finds power, makes a deal with a demon, ascends, finds a cursed ring, studies dark healing arts (how to disease swell as heal, maybe she gives him cancer or something) SHE BECOMES BEAST, driven by the one desire to get revenge and to never be that vulnerable again. Her trauma motivates her but doesn't define her. Also tots end it by either her killing him brutally for the proggession of a quest ( leaves him behind after breaking his leg to hold off following enemies) or let her rape him back. Either.

Yeah, barring aside how the DM has even let that situation happen, this is one of the extremely rare situation where killing the other PC is entirely justified and correct course to take. Seriously, it's not really about feeling of real-world justice, it just seems like the most natural roleplaying course. You said you cared about the girl dearly: this is the kind of act any family (or family like group) would take blood revenge for at nearly any point of history. Not to mention, this is not something that will allow you your group continue the same way as it worked before. Either way, you should logically lose one of them: it would make absolutely zero sense that the healer will be willing to continue adventuring with you guys if you just let that slide. If you let the Barbarian live, you lose the healer AND have to continue with knowing that you let that barbarian do what ever he wants and basically fuck you because you are too much of a pussy to control him.
If you kill him, the odds are that the healer might recover and continue traveling with you, AND you'll have the satisfaction of justice being served.

So yeah, killing the barbarian (or taking equally drastic punishment, like castrating him, humiliating him, then leaving him out in the wildreness to die) is actually the only logical step that you can take.

>>50865193
Or Introduce her Uncle. A lvl 20 Soldier on leave come to visit his distant niece. Only male she trusts, tots kills barbarian.

>>50865190
>If you've already been raped and you kill yourself, you have been both raped and killed
But anon, by definition you don't have to live with it if you're dead.

>>50863864
I'm a child of rape and have lost friends and family to murder. I will say again, you've never experienced either if you think rape is worse than murder. And I will say again, it can make for good role play.

>>50863241
Banish him and unleash immaterial astral hounds to pursue him relentlessly until the curse is lifted. Let him understand how it's like to be threatened by someone you can't do shit against even with fuckhuge strength.

And the hounds are signed with the reason for the curse, so getting any self-respecting wizard to lift it would be hard as fuck and possibly a redemption quest in itself

>>50865466
'A child of' is not 'have been'.

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See justice netted out if your party is good or lawful in most/any manner

TN don't judge and move on

Evil sweep it under the table or even hold it over the Barbarian

If Player bitches you out tell him to fuck off

>>50863241
show her that losing herself in violent sex is and submission is her way back to being worthwhile. The more deprave and disgusting the act the more worth she has.
>>50863316
there's no point torturing the dead. anal rape with spit lube or a big, thick stick should teach him a lesson

>>50863241
Polymorph him into a cute-innocent-sexy young girl, leave her in the night in a shitty crime district.

Kill the barbarian and tell the GM you won't play unless he kicks the player out.

>>50865107
That makes about as much sense as saying murder victims committed suicide and go to hell because of that.

Well now she's only good for rape so you should keep up the trend

>>50865786
I'm just saying that if they didn't want to die they shouldn't have let themselves be killed.

>>50865786
>expecting religious dogma to "make sense"

>>50865786
>Thinking God victim-blaming is somehow unusual
You must be thinking of the wrong god

>>50865604
Alignments don't have to be so one dimensional. Even an evil or neutral charecter can punish or kill the barberian for his action for verious reasons.

example:
>You filthy shit, she was supposed to be mine !
>you harmed the only thing in this entire corrupt grim world that I viewed as pure and broght me happiness... you have no idea what horrible things I have in store for you.
>I will not stand to have such disgusting undisciplined perverted swine in my ranks !

>>50863241
Butcher the fiend in a public place to make an example of him and dissuade future assaults

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>>50863241
Fine, I'll bite the bait.
He's being lolrandumbevil, and nobody ever likes it. It's edgy, it annoys people at the table since I swear to god, it's so fucking hard to find people roleplaying decently with NPCs, hell, roleplaying at all, so just do what you should always do as a player when this sorta shit goes down.
Find the most lethal way of murdering someone in its sleep (like scythes in D&D) and do it. No need for torture or karmic revenge, since it would turn back on you. Just do it pragmatically.
It's not even OOC probably, since a "good" person would be horrified by the act and an "evil" one burning with desire for revenge.
I mean, it's not hard. It's something that causes friction at the table, and since I pass all of my (very) little spare time playing tabletop, I certainly don't want to handle edgelords while doing it.

>inb4 people telling me I'm a bad roleplayer since boo hoo muh realistic Gor barbarian savage

>>50863645
But Anon, he callously damaged Ser OP's property, and is a mongrel foreigner. Killing him is the fair and just response.

>>50863241
You either outright kill him or castrate and THEN kill him.
That's how you do it.

>>50863241
rape his character
then rape him
ez solution ez lyfe

>>50864818
Murder isn't okay either, moron. We're agents of peace and order, not slaughter and destruction.

>>50865997
Pragmatically, it'd be better to get rid of the girl since she doesn't contribute to the party on the same scale as the barbarian and is psychologically damaged to the point of needing special attention. She'd just be a burden on them from that point on.

>>50864515
You can recover from pain. You can't recover from death.

Find one a horny minotaur/dragon/griffon and give the barbarian a taste of his own medicine. Repeat until he's reformed or dies of an exploded colon.

>>50866117
The barb isn't trustworthy. His way of acting would seriously backfire on us whenever we would get in a place with any facade of civilization.
The girl is supposedly important for a party member quite more useful than the barbarian. It's obvious that if the girl hits the road, her friend would follow. And I'd certainly prefer to have a normal person in my party instead of an uncivilized mongrel.

>>50866178
The barbarian can kill things and the girl's only function was morale boosting. Now she serves the exact opposite purpose. She has no value anymore, while the barbarian does. Best solution is to remove the girl and keep the barbarian on a leash until a replacement can be found

>>50864846
I'm not that guy, but it's game night, not therapy.

>>50866206
You don't get the point. Having the girl around keeps a valuable party member around. Then again, it's a Sword and Sorcery game, so some sort of wizard should know a spell of memory removal or something.
Then again you're not wrong, maybe the best thing to do would be throwing the barbarian at enemies until they die or he dies.

Thia thread is one reason why there is no rape in games I run.
Yes, it's hypocritical.
I don't care.
The only thing that's added, by including rape to your game, is rape.

>>50864573
>When I run a game where such themes can come up, I ask each player, individually, if they are alright with xyz being a thing, and if they aren't, I will excise it from the game, because I am not a shitlord and respect my fellow players.
I see where you're coming from, but you phrased it like you are asking fow pewmission to wun evewy widdle scenawio lest you offend someone.
If it's rape, pvp, erp, flash forwards, etc... I get it.

>>50863983
>I don't think this scenario exists.but i'll bite how does raping someone, make for interesting roleplay?
>Everytime time I've seen it done it's been done for the evil lulz.
This.

>>50864545
Okay I was ready to give you the benefit of a doubt but no, fuck no. Troll detected! TROLL. DETECTED.

>>50863983
If the PC is supposed to be morally unsound, snapping and raping the target of his affections could be entirely in character. And you can rape and not instantly be a chaotic evil monster with no sense of right and wrong. The PC can realize he fucked up and desperately try to hide/downplay the act, could offer himself up to the party for judgement out of guilt, or this could serve as the tipping point where he becomes generally more unhinged/impulsive in his actions, inevitably leading to conflict/excision from the group. You could also use it to reflect the values of other PCs by how they react. Some may be disgusted but not take much action, others might demand violent retribution like 99% of this thread, or some may even demand they marry out of some weird sense of protecting her honor. You could also use it to develop the npc, and use the other pcs as a kind of support group, RPing out what it's like to deal with a victim of abuse. You could take the character in all kinds of directions, having her recover back to her old self as a sort of spirit lifting message, have her remain sullen and scarred for a darker tone, or anywhere in between

There's places you could take RP like this, but no one will bother because rape makes everyone feel icky so they'll forget how to RP and just react with bitterness and malice by default

>>50863241
Can you provide a fair trial? Can the offender be rehabilitated after serving a just sentence, or can you at least levy a punishment (roughly) worthy of the crime?

If so, do that. Break the savage mongrel and rebuild him as a moral actor.

If not, it's down to frontier justice. Play nice and then put a dagger in his eye while he sleeps.

>>50863261
Sounds good. Give her the option to drop the axe on his neck or pull the chair out from the branch he's hanging from or whatever means you set up.

If the player objects or tries to defend it I'd be inclined to boot them as well.

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>itt a bunch of white knight faggots groaning about a barbarian doing barbarian things

all of you kys

>>50866415
>Give her the option to drop the axe on his neck or pull the chair out from the branch he's hanging from or whatever means you set up.
That wouldn't help her. She might even be horrified by the idea of helping kill one of her former friends, adding to the already confused emotions she's feeling.
The assumption that everyone feels burning hatred after being wronged is foolish, and feeding that feeling may be the worst way to help them recover.

>>50866421
Well sorry if we don't enjoy having unsavory mongrels around, friendo.

My lessons today are avoid bsrbarians, cute girls, and presumably cute barbarian girls

>>50866421
I don't judge a barbarian for acting like one.
I would put the beast down entirely without judgement and with as much mercy as possible.

>>50866413
Additionally, you should take this opportunity to reflect on your personal failure in this tragedy.

You chose to travel with this brutish savage. You did not bend him to the yoke of civility in that time. Hell, you probably encouraged his savagery, finding the reckless violence useful to your party's goals.

Ignore >>50866415, it is not the victim's place to have to administer justice in this case, because the victim is not the one who failed.

So are we just assuming this party is composed of people who utterly hate each other? This barbarian has presumably saved their lives in battle repeatedly, is just executing him like a dog even the natural way this would go down? have none of these people developed emotional bonds over however long of traveling together?

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>>50866441
How is he unsavory? That bitch probably had it coming, I'm pretty sure she was a skank just from the OP. A good DM will let the players do whatever, and not keep around a bunch of mary sue fags. Sry.

>>50866455
>implying you could put down a barbarian. Pic related, it's you getting gay bowsered.

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>ITT: 21st century values in a barbaric fantasy setting
I thought this was the roleplaying board

>>50866539
I'm pretty sure "the barbarian defiled my waifu" is a thing anyone in any time period would get upset at.

>>50866557

>m-muh waifuuu
>implying said other would care if barbarian defiled 'waifu' considering they'd probably be dead

>>50866518
This sorta stuff is illegal for any character who isn't a barbarian. Delivering capital justice is what any civilized folk would do.

>barbarians being powerful
Yeah dude, it's not D&D, they have no supernatural rage, sugar. Like hell they'd one agaist soldiers with better equipment and training.

>>50866584
Win*

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>>50866584
>illegal for any character who isn't a barbarian

Well anon...

>no supernatural rage etc.
Doesn't matter, barbarians are the most powerful race in the world.

Don't call me sugar, sounds gay and you might get raped.

>>50866615
You sound like a fruit with your worship of half naked musclebound savages, of course I call you sugar, sugar.

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>>50866454
>My lessons today are avoid bsrbarians, cute girls, and presumably cute barbarian girls

And you sound like a whiteknight pansy with your love of law and order and protected your alleged waifu.

>not wanting a stronk barbarian man

>>50863864
Well you are around to bitch and moan aren't you?
Where are the murder victims again?
Oh that right.
Fuck you.

>>50866518
>implying I'd turn my back on a dangerous beast or lower myself by wrestling with one.
I said I'd put it down, not "face him in honorable combat".

>>50866658
>not protecting your waifu
Like our modern nordic "barbarians", you're a huge cuck.

Killing the barb for hurting someone who is close to you is more than ok. What isn't ok is thinking that you have to kill him because of said rape when PCs are constantly decapitating fools left and right.

Tldr don't turn this into some morality shit

>>50866672

So you're a coward in addition to being a whiteknight, got it.

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>>50866680

Protect her all you want, she still gets raped. You wouldn't even be able to handle the savagery a barbarian could afford you.

>>50866696
Typical of you barbarians. Not smart enough to expect an ambush, not men enough to admit it was your fault.

>>50866721

>implying you wouldn't get your throat slit or ambushed.

Barbarians aren't exactly known for honourable combat either. Whiteknight room is down the hall to the left.

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OK, I'm sorry for barbarian shitposting, I am drunk and it was fun. Forgive me and carry on discussion.

Did you check her anal circumference for any changes? knowledge is half the battle

>>50866788
It was entertaining, mate, don't worry. Pass a good Christmas.

>>50863645


>Is rape worse than murder? No, and if you say otherwise you've never experienced either.

How do you know i've not been murdered before?

>>50866824

Same to you, take it easy bro.

>>50866488
If your dog raped your wife, would you punish him, m8?

>>50864268
>You'd be surprised how quickly a rottweiler can take down a five-year old.
There's a thought I really never never wanted to have, thanks Anon.

>>50863261

lol white knight faggot.

>>50866837
>implying a dog can rape a person
I would question my wife's sexual behavior

>>50866865
somebody's never been to tijuana

>>50863645
>Is rape worse than murder? No,
That still doesn't mean murdering the piece of shit isn't justified afterward.
> and if you say otherwise you've never experienced either.
You clearly haven't.

>>50866488
Raping someone that is "like a little sister" to him is pretty reasonable grounds for wanting to kill someone with just about any relation to you.

>>50866865
Good point. OP was wrong all along. A savage can't rape anyone. This was just a particularly humiliating animal attack on the poor girl.

They should roast the barbarian and feed it to some poor elven children. ''Tis the season and all that.

>>50863293

Player or character?

Answer: yes

>>50866898
>humiliating animal attack on the poor girl
>implying she wasn't the one to initiate things
You should ask her why she's into fucking animals. Also:
>Using your dog as food
True barbarian detected

>>50865466
>being a child of rape means you know what it's like
You're a retard. An edgy and obnoxious one at taht. And in no way is murder that only crime that justifies death.

>>50866932
Hey, I never advocated for treating these savages like companions. Some fool in Ser OP's party made that mistake, and look what it cost them?

>>50866898
I doubt he was saying "it's not rape if it's a dumb enough animal", but instead something more like "I don't think a dog is really capable of being in control in this situation"

>>50863261
Hi, I'd like to join your torch wielding mob! Can we all just kill this bastard?

You should stone the girl. Obviously that little harlot had teased the barbarian for long time and when she finally spread her legs and barb went full frenzy, she lost control and have now spun this little rape story that no one doesn't even try to prove it happened.

Besides all you ciswhite shitlords should check your privilege and stop killing minorities (the barvarian) from different cultures. He might have raped one girl but your masculine response is in essence raping every woman of color.

>>50863459
So, it's Conan, not Gor? Because Gor women get raped, it's just the way of things, and the NPC is acting unreasonable, and just needs to be put into the company of other women of Gor NPCs.

>>50866987
The bait in this is largely inadequate, but the one thing that seems the most off to me is the assumption barbarians are brown. Isn't the "frozen north" barbarian the more common angle?

>>50866990
I think it being a game set in Gor is just about the one reason I could accept for the OP not just killing the barbarian character. Playing a game set in Gor is a completely different problem however

>>50867048
No, Conan is pretty brown. Usually quite a bit browner than the plump white booties he plunders

>>50866987
What if its a white barbarian, like a slav or an australian?

>>50867074
Conan was from the frozen north(?) though, just inexpicably brown

Yeah probably kill the barbarian, unless the player also belongs to some barbaric religion which advocates rape.

In which case, remove the player then kill the PC.

>>50863241
Only one response here:
Egolo Vult (because God isn't here to help - except if you're a Cleric in this case Deus Vult is still accepatble)
So go forth and Smite!

Also probably bait/10 but nevermind

>>50867128
I dunno, bro, I'm just saying, he was brown as fuck. Sometimes artists will cuck him up and make him unusually caucasian, but it's improper.

>>50866407
The thing is, all those things you said about RP are great ideas and should be done. But the Barbarian is to be killed nonetheless.
But of course you help the NPC Girl to recover if possible.

>>50867128
Conan hardly wears anything every guy that lives high up in the mountains gets pretty tan

>>50867165

Probably means his tribe had a diet consisting mainly of fish.

>all these people telling op to kill him
Idiots. The appropiate vendetta for this is cutting his dick off.

>>50864581
>sit on it
kek

>>50865466
But you haven't actually been murdered. And since your mother had you, obviously rape is worse than murder.

>>50867177
They dont get tan, they start tan and dont pale because whiteness is a genetic disorder

>>50866615

This is why you just have the wizard polymorph the barbarian into a woman and let the party take turns with the new fucktoy.

Hell, if they can manage it, turn the rape victim into a guy and let them have first crack.

The only proper course of action is to group rape the barbarian.

>>50863241
In-character, the barbarian is dead. There's no coming back from this.

Out-of-character, you then talk to the player and figure out why in the Hell he thought that was going to work out well for anyone.

But in-character, the barbarian is dead. Stone fucking dead.

>>50863241

Kill him, then rape her myself

It's funny how people always pussy out on justice in RP:s

Like the time my character wanted to hang the highway robbermen and the other players accused me of going chaotic stupid because my character wanted to hang a bunch of outlaws for attempted robbery and murder.

>>50863459
>despite it being a sword and sorcery kind of game ala conan.

For the record,

1) Conan never forced himself on women. He came close once, but only because he found literally the only white woman for a thousand miles in any direction and had grown sick of black women. And even then he was openly ashamed of himself for thinking of doing it.

2) Beyond the one exception up there, he found the concept utterly repugnant

2a) Possibly because if you try and rape a Cimmerian woman, you'll get fed your own balls by the woman. His people did not take that kind of shit.

3) Conan absolutely would murder the fuck out of anyone who raped a woman that he was personally attached to in the manner you're describing in OP.

>>50867315
Technically, unless you are a representative of the local Lord or whatever, you are just murdering people accused of stealing.
If you are out beyond the borders of any principality or civilization, then full Fallout rules are in effect.

>>50866421
>lol it's just what barbars do
And then they die. What's your problem?

>>50867265
In fact you all should get polymorphed and stay in the wizard tower forever where you can live a happy live as a pretty girls with a loving master.

>>50867327
This, Conan would carry off Princesses from the clutches of Evil Cults, and seduce them with his glorious pecs.
He was not a homicidal rapist.

>>50867327
Oh, sorry, there was also the Frost-King's Daughter. He tried to force himself on her, but in the interest of fairness there was a LOT of magic bullshit going on and she was basically a Siren who was openly tempting him and just didn't expect him to actually catch up to her. He was supposed to have frozen to death; this is one of those few instances where the woman unequivocally brought it on herself (and even then he didn't actually get to rape her because her brothers intervened).

Hmm. One might think that his later repulsion to the idea of rape might stem from this incident...

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>>50863241
My character has no sibling, but is extremely protective of the girl in the group, since she saved his life and helped him out of tight spots so many times in the past.

If someone in the party hurt her like that, he would fly into a rage so fast and so hard that he'd put any real barbarian to shame: he would kill his former teammate without thinking about the consequences of actually losing the barbarian.

The group now has no more meaty tough guy in the front to cut the enemy to ribbons while he hangs out and blasts anyone from afar... this might bite us in the ass later, but I doing anything else would be against so much of my character's personality, it wouldn't make sense for him to not initiate PvP.

My friends wouldn't rape any other character, this is why PvP in this case would be the right choice, for once.

>>50867213
Oh yeah. Cut off a traveling companion with poor impulse control's dick off. No way that will come back to haunt you

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Basically the Barbarian has become the Demons.

It's the party's duty to kill him for XP and treasure now.

>>50867399
Cut off the balls too and you wont have to worry about his impulse control

>>50867423

This guy gets it

Look, the only reasonable response is a double-murder suicide: you end her suffering and remove two men from the world. It's a win-win-win.

>>50867335

The way outlaws actually worked legally during medieval times was that any man was allowed to kill them. If you are attacked by outlaws you are well within your rights to execute them.

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>>50863645
And I'll play the guy who spent three years living with a girl who was a rape-victim in her childhood.

long story short : this sort of things fucks you up real bad in the head. Borderline personality disorder, suicidal tendencies, recurring PTSD... those levels of bad.

I'm as much of a good audience as anyone else when it comes to rape jokes in hypothetical, and/or fantasy scenarios who may or may not be of the erotic sort, but irl it is definitely no joking matter for me anymore.

>>50863645
I'm backing this anon.

I would wait until I have the opportunity to turn him into a little girl and then rape him.

Is it tough for girl to stay virgin in sword and sorcery? I remember playing a female teen in fallout 2 and accidentally sleeping with an npc like it was nothing. I assumed she was a virgin..

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>>50867442
>If you are attacked by outlaws you are well within your rights to execute them.
I'm not disputing if YOU are attacked. I'm saying you generally couldn't go off hunting men when there's no bounty/reward system in place. The local lord might have uses for ruthless men who aren't afraid to get their hands dirty, if they aren't stealing from HIM.

Of course you can defend your own life and property, I'm talking about going all Punisher on the local unsavories.

Imagine being a virgin woman in Witcher. Does Geralt bone any virgins?

>>50867513
>Imagine being a virgin woman in Witcher.
Good joke, mang.

>>50867483
Depends on the setting.

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>>50866488
I'm going to say it like this.

My character is very protective of his sister and his brother just raped his sister, making her a depressed husk of who she formerly was.

He flies into a rage and slaughters the barbarian before he can come back to his senses. Because he is that kind of man.

Do you think all murders are planned? I always heard that most murderers killed on impulse: if anyone dared rape my sisters, I'm telling you now. I would run them over with my car at the first opportunity.

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Thats what you get for lugging a fertile virgin around

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>>50866421
>assuming I party up with barbarians who plunder and rape
Nigga, you're beyond retarded: go kill yourself at your earliest convenience

>>50867368
>tfw no qt Frost gf

Why even live?

Whats your system and setting? It's not an out of character thing for a savage barbarian to do, you need to examine these things and consider if in the context of your game and characters if it's really all that big a deal.

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>>50867614
I think we can presume it was Dungeons and Dragons and not Mad Max: the TTRPG.

>>50867614
Just because it's not out of character for him to do doesn't mean it's not out of character for the other characters to kill him for it.

Either way I would kick him from my RP group.

>>50867614
Even in "le savage barbarian" settings, committing acts of violence on the friends and family of your allies/clan-mates is just begging for a violent reprisal.
The guy attacked a valued friend and ally, not some random peasant girl.

>>50867568
>trying to outrage a barbarian
dead

is this a new form of "elf slave, what do ?"

>>50866127
Depends on how long you have been dead and how you died.

>>50863241
>keeping a healerbot npc in the party
terrible crutch

Would you have cared if the same girl was just some village girl your party member raped along the way instead of being a helper?

>>50865193
Have her do all that only to realize what a monster she's become to punish the barbarian and take a step back and really reflect on it. Maybe she carries out the punishment anyway, maybe she attempts to forgive, maybe something else entirely.

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>>50867653
>thinking that a barbarian can resist a psion
>mfw

Gag and tie the barbarian up and sell him to gay orcs.

>>50867676
Irrelevant, she was a contributing team member; violence against her is no better than breaking your character's magic wand or clipping the wings of your Griffin mount.

It's provocation that is practically demanding reprisal, otherwise you've become his Beta Bitch too.

So for those thinking that this is impossible bait...

This almost happened in our group. CE barbarian.

He got caught in the act however, and the whole party murderated him. Though it was a close thing sicne he had by far the highest damage output and HP in the group.

The final blow was by the sorcerer, who picked up a chest, cast Jump, and pushed off a wall to charge directly at him at a speed of yes (Rule of Cool).

Then my NE Psion slit his throat while he was unconscious. You don't shit where you eat, you idiot.

>>50867315
My GM had a bandit... Hold on, I gotta greentext this.
>Blockade set up across the road
>Blockade is manned by Scarecrows in armor.
>Two ballistae have overwatch on the Scarecrows.
>Ballistae have ropes attached to their firing mechanisms that go off into the woods.
>Cutting the ropes makes the ballistae explode.
>Yes, explode.
>Then the Scarecrows animate.
>Bandit Lord reveals himself.
>He moves 40' per turn in fullplate.
>Which lets him play keep away from the party.
>He pulls a rope and corpses fall from the trees on nooses.
>Behind the blockade is a 20' deep pit.
>Past the pit is a wall of force
>(because the GM spent time on this encounter and we are not fucking walking away from it)
...
You know, writing all this out, it was really theatrical.
I guess my genocidal list for justice after all the crap of that encounter might have been misplaced.

>>50865193
>>50867698
Possibilities of a nice character development upon an otherwise stupidly edgy premise ? Yes please.

>>50867651
Really depends on setting, women might not have the same place in society as in the 21st century and the barbarian is a party member, it isn't a random peasant girl but it's also not random barbarian who snuck into camp and raped her. In an iron age sword and sorcery setting the appropriate course of action could instead be to force the barbarian to marry her biblical style. You could adress the situation by trying to kill them but there is no guarantee he won't end up killing others in the process or it not coming back to bite you in the ass later in the campaign.

>>50867723
This is why I don't use Alignment.
It practically encourages maladjusted manchildren to this sort of behavior.

>>50867711
>class based on mental discipline
>flies into rage
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>>50867742
>Really depends on setting, women might not have the same place in society as in the 21st century
Her personal rights and place in society are totally irrelevant.
She was a well-regarded part of the troupe. And you can't autistically cite "Muh realistic historical society" and give the Barbarian cover because he has a glowing sign reading "PC" hanging over his head in the same sentence.

Stop being stupid.
This guy was a cunt who turned on the troupe like a rabid dog with no control. Just for the safety of everyone else and their property, you have to deal with this cunt.

>>50863241
Kill him.
If you are in a barbaric setting, this is the only possible in character response to someone raping your close friend, but failing to kill you.
He's practically asking for it.

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>>50867764
>barbarian takes the berserk path
>thinks he can win anything

>>50867771
>implying a raging psion can defeat anyone
deal with the rape like the cuck you are

>>50866837
You rub his nose in it.
Duh.

>all these edgefags

What the fuck happened /tg/.

>>50867770
This. In any kind of historical context, that barbarian is just asking for an execution, and then his family being pillaged.

>>50866407
Only responsible response in the entire thread.

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>>50867784
>his little sister just got raped
>does nothing
You keep using that word like you know what it means

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Would you rape her?

>>50867807
>his loved one just got raped
>does nothing
but that's literally a cuck, anon

>>50867800
It became possible to get your way through ignoring the rules and shitposting.

>>50867165
>he was brown as fuck. Sometimes artists will cuck him up and make him unusually caucasian, but it's improper.
I am now imagining Conan the Barbarian saying "How improper!"
Thank you for that

>>50867811
That's exactly what I am saying. Killing the barbarian is avenging your loved one: that's the opposite of what a cuck would do.

>>50867800
Same thing that happened to /co/, where have you been the past few years?

>>50863241
Post more tits, obviously. It'll help us think.

Turn the barbarian into a small animal, then feed him to a cow.

Don't mess with wizards if you are a martial.

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Even setting aside personal feelings for the NPC, the Barbarian has demonstrated that he'll satisfy his desires violently with no regard for the trust of the group.
Next time maybe he'll want to see what the Thief looks like while he's choking on poison, because he claimed a bauble HE wanted for himself.
Or maybe he'll ambush and kill a member of the Druid's order because he "disrespected" him that one time.

The most prudent course is to just bury this guy in the swamp at the first opportunity.

With the whole world to wreak Barbaric havoc on, he chose to indulge himself at Home Camp, and either he KNOWS that's aberrant for even Barbarian cultures or he's a mad dog.

>>50863241
That nipslip

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>>50867826

Would you allow PCs to rape and pillage?

>>50867820
yeah, a cuck would ask internet what to do

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>>50867845
That's not the definition of the word desu

If he kills the barbarian next session or not, that's what decides if he is a beta faggot or just a fag

>>50867841
depends on the setting.

>>50867841
Yes.
Right before they are tpked by romans.

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>>50867841
Depends on the type of game I want to play

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>>50867841
But even in this sorta setting, you don't pillage and rape your friends and allies.

>>50867841
Aslong as it's off-screen they can do whatever the fuck they want with their captured booty

>>50867841
Depends on the setting and if there is a story there to be had there.

>>50863241
Not sure why some many people want to resort to OOC solutions, like kicking the player, unless you have previously agreed not to do shit like rape. Maybe he was just doing what he thought his character would do. I am normally not against including rape, if it has proper IC consequences.

In this case, the default course of action would be to kill the fucker. Well, unless your character is extremely non-violent. In any case, there is pretty much no reason for you to share a party with this PC. If somebody raped your little sister, you wouldn't just let it go, especially in a setting where it's okay for somebody to enforce their own justice.

Now if you go through with it and the player in question starts complaining and can't understand why you did it, then you actually have a reason to kick him out.

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>>50867890
>Captured Booty

>>50867713
>no better than breaking your character's magic wand or clipping the wings of your Griffin mount.
Would you kill a pc over those things?

>>50867826
Yes.

Regardless of how much of an edgelord you want to be to allow your players to rape friendly NPCs, he raped an NPC another player was very fond of.

That sort of behavior is extremely toxic for any sort of group that depends on each other.

And for all the "muh historic rapes" faggots who are obviously jerking off as they type, even the motherfucking vikings would only rape women from outside their community and it was a crime to do the same to their own women. You are not going to work as a society by systematically raping women, so cut that shit.

The barbarian attacked their own group for no reason at all. If you want to go all /pol/ and you need to shit on the evil women, fine, but it'd still be a slight against OP's character and he'd be well within his rights to seek revenge.

>>50863376
Throw in a memory wipe and he could even be the NPC helper he violated.

>>50863241
As others have said, your GM probably should have stopped this or given the other PC's the chance to stop it before it happened.

I'd be inclined not to play with that player again. On the other hand I have no idea about your group or campaign so far. Has your group been raping its way through fantasy land and now it's happened to a PC you like you suddenly care?
If that's the case then the barbarian is just teaching you a lesson.

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>>50867897
>Not sure why some many people want to resort to OOC solutions, like kicking the player, unless you have previously agreed not to do shit like rape.
see
>>50867826
He's directly fucking with the party itself. He's an untrustworthy scumfucker. It'd be like keeping the rogue player who steals all the best treasure for himself.

If you were playing the Paladin/Cavalier, and the Barbarian raped the squire you were training for knighthood, you'd kill that character out of hand as a warning to the player.
If he's That Guy to the extent that he comes back with the intention of doing that sort of shit again, he can always shitpost about the "injustice" of being bounced here on /tg/ with all the other edgelords who have no game.

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Intolerable actions.

Beat the fucker. If he can't restrain himself in this manner, he can't be trusted any further.

If he's so willing to rape an an ally, what's to stop him from betraying the party in an even worse manner?

>>50867917

The former? No. The latter? No, but I'd disable him and let my griffon kill him.

>>50867917
Depends on my character, but a beating is pretty much assured. If I go with my usual NE gish, it's a solid yes. Possibly enforced by an Hold Person and a very slow slitting of his throat.

>>50867897
Would you kill your little brother over raping your little sister?

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>>50867917
>Would you kill a pc over those things?
Crippling my trained flying mount or destroying an object I rely on for my survival?
Fucking of course I would.
That's like asking if I'd gut the guy who tainted the water supply.

How can you even ask this?

>>50867897
If you would make a character who would do this, you have no place at my table.

So I'm just doing what I would do, and showing your bitchass the door.

>>50867971
You also rely on him for your survival. And you are noticably down an effective way to combat problems

>>50867970
That's when you break out the real brutal murder.

Family takes care of its own, after all.

In a world where you can magically heal chopped off arms and resurrect the dead, why won't they simply heal the rape?

>>50863261
FPBP

>>50867970
I would probably break both of his legs.

>>50867981
All this violence will make momma cry

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>>50867976
>You also rely on him for your survival.
By sabotaging the party, he's become part of the problem, not the solution. Muscleheads aren't that hard to come by. Even some Hobgoblin expatriate would understand the basic concept of not shitting on your allies.

>>50863241
IMO it depends on the group. I am sure you are all mature men playing a game and can deicide what you don't want in a game.

In my group rape happens in the world. Infact we had a fight with bandits going wrong and 2 party members got captured. One of them is a woman and she got raped by them. We all agreed stuff like this is part of our campaign beforehand and we all agreed that things like rape and torture happen off-screen.

So if rape isn't part of your campaign then you should say so. If you dicussed it before hand and he still does shit like that then you need to talk with the player itself.

The RP part is really simple if you ask me. One of your party members commited a pretty big fucking crime on somebody who is liked by the other party members. This means you got a dangerously minded individual in your group that can harm the groups function. If this happened in my current party they would try to capture him and give him in to the local authorities, or at the very worst kill him if he goes apeshit.

anyone who can't understand the extremely basic concept of "don't shit where you eat" is useless regardless of ability

fuck him

>>50867999
She will cry as she assists in the murder, yes.
That is how you do it.

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>>50867976
>Oh, this attack dog bit my protegé
>it's okay, it might still only attack the guys who are attacking us
>I won't put it down
whatcouldhappen.jpg

>This guys saying not to kill him because murder is worse than rape
Then just rape the barbarian, eye for an eye.

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>>50868010
>So if rape isn't part of your campaign then you should say so.
This is specifically a case of violence on the party and it's allies.
We all kill stuff in games; but the guy who starts randomly offing PCs and/or henchmen is universally going to get gone.

The fact that this girl is part of the troupe is integral to the discussion. The female PC wouldn't be expected to put up with the PC Barbarian violently raping her when the urge hit, would she?

>>50867990
Can't heal emotional trauma.

Unless you erase her memories.

>>50868033
The vast majority of rape happens between familiar individuals though. Seems as a rule rape is the one crime where you do explicitly shit where you eat

>>50867949
>you'd kill that character out of hand
Yes...
>as a warning to the player.
No.

What a lot of anons are saying here are that consequences like killing the offender are COMPLETELY in character unless it's an evil party or something. If you want to warn the player, put on your big boy pants and say, "Jim, I don't want that stuff in my gaming group". If you want to enact justice; gird your character in his blessed armor, draw his Holy Avenger, and SMITE EVIL.

>>50868000
>>50868044
Then you get shanked by goblins cause you have no wand and no meatshield

>>50868050
>The vast majority of rape happens between familiar individuals though.
Yes, in civilized, stable societies where there's no open, ongoing conflict.

This is exactly not how TTRPG settings work, you aren't adventuring in a cul-de-sac in Indiana.

Stupid.

Use all your chains and rope to bind him nude, have npc either castrate him or do it yourself. Then brand him in a very visible spot either with a social signal as a rapist, or just the word itself. Won't kill him, but it may break his pride

>>50867970
I'd probably at least beat the shit out of him and report him to the police. But a random party member is not the same as a brother and I don't live in a fantasy land where people kill each other on the regular.

>>50868059
I don't take a Wight into goblin lairs on the basis of their effectiveness against goblins.
Nor am I taking the mad-dog Barbarian.

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>>50868059
You think I would think about that as I am blind with rage, stabbing the barbarian in the back?

You really don't understand roleplay, do you?

>>50868045
You should probably just beat the shit out of him. It was the beating that was more concerning than the rape

>>50868047
Which can be done, so no problems

>>50868062
>>50868050
And... when that happens, it's punished by members of that society.

Which is what should happen here.

Rape, murder, or whatever is irrelevant. The Barbarian fucked the party big time, the party should punish him accordingly

>>50868086
There'd still be that awkward feeling in the air.

Everyone knows what happened but her and has to be careful not to bring it up in conversation.

>>50868081
Beating < beating+rape
If you want justice then you need to do both.

>>50868086
Which doesn't solve the problem of a Barbarian who feels it's fine to commit crimes on members of the band.
Even the worst savages punish this sort of behavior strenuously as a basic matter of survival.

>>50868079
>he doesn't enslave the undead to serve as personal guards and attack zombies
Shit wizard detected

>>50867742
No one had a place an invulnerable place in society back in ye' olden times. If you fucked off your travelling companions to this extent you'd just get mur- lost while foraging and presumably eaten by local predators.
There wasn't CSI shit going on, no one would expect a proper explanation unless it was nobility that went missing on your journey.